This is the first time ever a mainline 2D Mario and Sonic will be launching right next to each other
And I'm going to buy them both and love them
This is the first time ever a mainline 2D Mario and Sonic will be launching right next to each other
This is the first time ever a mainline 2D Mario and Sonic will be launching right next to each other
And I'm going to buy them both and love them
Soul vs soulless
Frick off morons both legit look great
*Sovl vs Sovl
sonicgays in full on damage control duty
sonic will never be on the same level as Mario, and you're a fricking fool if you think this new soulless sonic shovelware title will even be 1/10th as good as Wonder
I think both would be good.
Well from history shows Sonic had a much better track record when it comes to 2D. Mario would be just as good of a track record if it wern't for " those games. "
" NEW " SUPA MARIO BROS
>sonic will never be on the same level as mario
Mario will never have a similarly devoted and massive base of autists
>Mario will never have a similarly devoted and massive base of autists
that's not a good thing
It is, Sonic fans have harnessed their autism into making loads of fangames as good as or better than the mainline games. Nintendo fans just slurp up whatever they get.
2D Mario is nowhere near the good 2D Sonics in quality, while the opposite is true for Sonic in 3D. There's a reason the Mario fanbase doesn't clamor for 2D Mario games in the way Sonic fans do, though honestly I wonder if there even is a Mario fanbase at all beyond just your generic Nintendo fans.
except this new 2D Sonic game doesn't even look like it's anywhere near those classic games, otherwise you'd have a point
It does
No, it does not. As long as they keep using the babbified, baby blue, Generations model of classic Sonic, with watered down 3D graphics, with no meaningful input from the Mania devs, I have no interest in however they "reinvent" classic Sonic whatsoever. At least that other Mario game they announced actually redesigned Mario to look how he actually did in the older days.
>not muh shade of blue
Chris-Chan-tier argument.
>that one tidbit is your only takeaway from my post
I have no interest in talking to children. This is an 18+ site, get lost
I agree with this and I also agree with the term "babbified" being used here. I don't care for the way he looks in the game either and would have preferred they go for more of a Sonic CD "Sonic Boom opening cutscene" look than the Baby Sonic Generations look.
All that said I'm going to buy the game and the game looks like it's going to get the momentum and physics ACTUALLY RIGHT this time. It's just a shame about the look of the game.
Seriously I want the 15 year old cool teenage sonic back
*16
>dislikes tears
damn so Sega had a point when they banned Sonic from ever crying
it was all there from the beginning....
>There's a reason the Mario fanbase doesn't clamor for 2D Mario games in the way Sonic fans do
Are you a fricking zoomer? Do you legitimately don't know how many people consider World one of the best games ever period? Do you not realize how huge the legacy of Super Mario Bros NES is?
>Do you not realize how huge the legacy of Super Mario Bros NES is?
That's just because SMB NES is an "important" landmark game that basically help to save gaming from a pit of shovelware bullshit. It's a good game, but how many Mario fans would tell you it's the best Mario game, or even the best 2D Mario game? Super Mario World is an actually great game though, contender for the best Mario game ever made.
>avatar gayging as a cat
beware of potential furgay
They're both soulless.
Mario will be competent but dull, Sonic will be dogshit.
How exciting
What an event
Which one of them will actually be good, though?
Mario will probably be a classic and sonic will be mediocre dogshit(as usual)
Why is this even a question? Wonder will get 90+ while sonic will get into 70s if they're lucky.
He asked about their quality, not their metacritic score.
The game not being developed by arzest.
probably neither. its been nearly 20 years since either franchise had a good 2d game.
>NSMB
>NSMBU
>SONIC RUSH
>SONIC RUSH ADVENTURE
>SONIC MANIA
>all bad
>go for Special Rings
>hold right to win suddenly fricks you over
this game is older than any of the games that post mentioned
>released 21 years ago
frick you
kek
honestly I just want to defend SAdv2 because I genuinely enjoy how the characters control, I love the soundtrack, the bosses I thought were cool being fast auto scrollers. It's just until Musical Plant, you will mostly be holding right a lot of the time.
Trash
frick you
Hey now at least it's not AS trash as Advance 3
>SAdv1
Best level design, middle of the road movement, shit special stages/requirements
>SAdv2
Meh level design, best movement, meh special stages/shit requirements (and rewards)
>SAdv3
Shit level design, meh movement (I swear the mid-air moves have more of a delay to them compared to how they were in SAdv2), best special stages/requirements
That said Sonic Advance 3's biggest issues are lack of screen space making bullshit enemy, spike and moving objects that always like to pinch you frick you up.
On one hand this makes 'hold right to win' approaches get filtered, but the amount of switches and calling your moronic AI partner to break a stone wall did suck I agree.
But 2 feels the best to play, I'll concede if you want to say Sonic Advance 1 is the most fun to play through.
based understanding of the advanced games.
not the anon youre talking to but i like all 3 personally. each one has something theyre good at but as much as i like ADV3 it is undeniably the worst of them. ADV2 flows well but kinda fails past that. ADV1 is weirdly the most well rounded despite its obvious shortcomings
2's special stage requirements are absolutely horrendous and one of the worst things I have ever seen in a video game. It's the kind of thing that's so bad I cannot believe anyone actually tested it and decided it was a good idea. How on earth can you say that shit was meh?
>SAdv1
>shit special stages/requirements
???? this is one of the more tolerable in the series
Advance 2 on the other hand is literally the absolute worst and by a wide ass margin too
the actual special stages sucked, depth on GBA doesn't work well. At least Av 2 is just keep away.
I didnt have too much of a problem with it. The last Emerald was really difficult, yeah but it was doable.
Advance 2 stages on the other hand. I really don't get it. You gotta have that whole stage memorized by heart, and a map planned out that you have to stick to and hope Zero doesn't frick you up, because if you go of course even a little bit you just wont have the ring multiplier necessary to get enough to pass.
Dunno if there was some trick to it. Navigating Sonic in that space is really difficult. Problem is, getting all the rings is such a difficult pain, that you don't have much room to test it out. In SA1 there are springs in super accessible places.
Well we already know Sonic is only going to have like 12 stages, whereas Mario games usually have like 80+, so even if Sonic is fun it's going to be comically short.
Mario levels are tiny and there is seldom any variety between levels in each world.
"stages" in Sonic aren't individual levels, that's just the zone/world like in Mario. those could have anywhere from 2-4 acts
ah that's a good point, so probably around 36 stages then, which is a lot better, although it's more like 24 and 12 boss fights isn't it?
Every zone being split in 2 is generous, because there have been several times that a whole zone is just a single act.
But a typical Sonic level is way more complex than a Mario one.
>weighing in on a conversation about a game series you have clearly never played
Why do people do this?
did Sega and Nintendo collude into making good-looking 3d sidescroller all of a sudden?
Corporate Espionage
>This is the first time ever a mainline 2D Mario and Sonic will be launching right next to each other
How fricking underage are you?
I think anon meant in a long time, obviously theres been a mario and sonic rivalry before.
I thought that too but the "ever" seems to imply otherwise.
>Mario World launched in Nov 1990
>Sonoc launched June 1991
Wow...you sure proved me. 7 months!? Right next to each other.
Mario World launched in june 1991 in NA you underage moron. Your thread is shit.
Not only is that a cope, Mario World Na didn't launch till August 1991
Sbame thqt etory wil repeat itself, and the Shitnic game is gonna be trash
>SOVL vs another soulless another corporate mandated sonic game riding off classic sonic nostalgia
No, they aren't even in the same fricking level. I'm just buying Mario, you can keep your multiplat bargain bin trash
>another corporate mandated new soup vs first fully original classic sonic game of the 2000s
FTFY
>another corporate mandated new soup
If this game had new soup in the title everyone would call it another new soup. It's a bit better for sure but it's still the obligatory new soup game with 3d character models and 2d tilesets for levels.
Both look surprisingly good. Took a while for these devs to figure out how to make 2.5D look nice.
Really don't understand the whole "I love this game that just got announced and isn't out yet" mentality of the current generation but hopefully both will be good.
Its bizarre that you think people didn't react the same way in the 90's and 2000's, especially for established franchise games.
You're right, allow me to rephrase my post:
Really don't understand the whole "I love this game that just got announced and isn't out yet" mentality but hopefully both will be good.
They both look good from what we've seen. Superstars has Mania physics and the original music we've heard from it is good. Wonder has gorgeous presentation, and Mario games never fail to deliver on good level design.
>Superstars has Mania physics and the original music we've heard from it is good.
I have some concerns about level design. Seems hit-or-miss from what they've shown.
>Mario games never fail to deliver on good level design.
Agree to disagree.
>really don't understand this bizarre "people find a game to look really good and can't wait to play it" mentality
We get it, you're jaded
You can have that reaction when a company has a reputation for consistently making high quality games for their flagship IPs. It'll really be no surprise to anyone if Super Mario Bros Wonder is amazing, if anything it'll be a surprise if it's the opposite.
If you buy that new Mario game, YOU ARE TRANS!
Mario is undoubtably gonna be at least an 8/10 but sonic is a wildcard. I’m hoping that it’ll be great, though, it has potential.
That said it doesn’t matter either way since picrel is gonna mog both of them
>ugly westoid trash mogging anything
LMAO, can't wait for this ugly ass shit to flop harder than yookalayle
based. i will never play games made by westerners.
So, are you a mario fan? What do you think of Bowser's Fury?
sad
This
Only Mania fans will buy it and they Will pretend to buy it but it's not sonic
YWNBJ
>learn japanese
>get a tan
>marry an Osaka woman and just say you're from the islands
Easy
good luck with that, your fanfic might actually come true if you cope hard enough
>Osakan women
don't they hate americans more than anyone due to all the army base rapes?
That just makes me want them even more
NTA and i agree that game looks ugly as shit, but the gameplay they showed was the most fun looking thing in the direct so i'm having a rough time hating the game outright.
Very questionable art direction. That's the character design they went with? and those are the colors they chose? I don't know about that. The game will have to be really good to compensate.
Man you gays are picky as frick. It looks good
Let's be realistic though, most people aren't buying both and Mario is going to fricking murder Sonic. Sega sgould delay the game if they know what's good for you.
Sales wise, absolutely true. Sonic is going to be on the PC via Steam, it's going to be on Xbox, Switch, and PlayStation. SMW will only be on the Switch. Even with this, Wonder is going to decimate Sonic Superstars, but the good thing is that both games exist at all.
I prefer the way wonder looks to the was Sonic Superstars looks if I'm being honest, but dammit you have these two games and that game from the Sonic Mania team coming out and I'm just happy that we're getting actual video game again.
I know bro, we are finally eating so good.
Feels good to have investment in these characters and worlds. (though only recently restored after years of being burnt out)
And with the Evening Star/Mania team game I'm invested because the gameplay looks fantastic and I like the whole "obscure ass treasure game on ps1-dreamcast" aesthetic. FRICK I'm so ready to play all this shit.
NSMB5(6?) vs Mania 2
Gee tough call, idk which will be better
>Super Mario World 3 vs Sonic Forces 2
Ftfy
Sanic
>And I'm going to buy them both and love them
Frick off, you're not allowed to this on this site.
Sonic looks better t. more of a mario fan
Wonder Momorio on the Nintendo LSDS looks so crazy and intriguing that I'm more willing to play it than Pooperstars even if the talking flowers and their nasally patronising american voices are going to be really annoying.
t. consooms even the worst Sonicslop
>arzest
It's kind of wild that we went full circle. Imagine showing your 90s self these games.
>"What the frick is Sonic doing on a Nintendo console?"
Same here. I'm a Sonic fan, but I'm buying both of these.
Same they both look good
They are on the same console so who gives a shit.