This is the new normal and you will like it. As games become bigger and internet streaming speeds get faster you will slowly appreciate the idea of videogame streaming because you can do it on budget computers or any handheld.
Companies are creating a size problem so they can offer you the solution. Streaming.
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>So poor that the moron OP has to resort to streaming a game that is 1/20th the size of a $80 2tb nvme
lmfao.
How is having 4TB HDD and 2TB SSD not budget?
i have 1 shitty H game taking up 150 GB i dont give a frick about video game sizes
Honey select?
256 nvme is cheaper than the game itself
Oh man, it’s gonna be a pain to pirate
Honestly I expected the game to push near or over 200gb just as I expect FF7 Rebirth to
I mean, storage isn't really the issue, it never has been. Large capacity SSDs and HDDs are inexpensive. The issue is download speeds. Downloading a massive game can take some people hours and it sucks. The bottleneck is these days is the infrastructure itself and not everyone has a choice of ISP.
>buy game
>it comes on a rom nvme ssd
problem solved
They will never do this. That's like owning your own game or something.
Don't be stupid
right. we aren't moving back to sanity we are going forwards to the ridiculous.
so a physical game
>The issue is download speeds
No, the issue is incompetent devs who do not optimise their games and instead push the costs onto you; the consumer.
>the issue is incompetent devs who do not optimise their games
in the case of Starfield I'm not so sure, when they said you'd be able to explore a thousand planets I thought it was Todd Howard pulling a sneaky on the players, and it would end up like No Man's Sky or Starbound, as in, just a bunch of procedurally generated planets and nothing interesting to do on them, but ever since I saw the 125 GB and SSD requirement I think it does make sense. for reference, Skyrim LE is 6 GB, Skyrim SE is 12 GB, and Fallout 4 is 30 GB
Improper use of semicolon. Opinion discarded.
>The issue is download speeds
That's not an issue for any civilized modern country of adequate size.
homie, amerimutts still have data caps.
I reiterate my statement, it's not an issue for any civilized modern country of adequate size.
its the opossite, I live in a third world shithole and we have fiber and no caps.
>completely missing the point
America is nowhere near modern in terms of internet infrastructure.
Result of being the earliest adopter of internet, funnily enough. Because the cables got laid in the 90s, telecoms providers have to work around the 90s hardware limitations because governments by and large don't want to rip up roads to get to the buried cables. Meanwhile countries that didn't get internet until like 2013 have 2013-tier infrastructure.
no caps fr?
frfr
I got it the first time, you are ignoring mine
Same. Too bad both consoles and PC parts cost 10% more because of some shitty tariff (flipland)
Funny. We can't have fiber in most cities of my country because almost every building older than 50-60 years is protected as historic site. At least by now you have wifi almost everywhere.
Only in ~~*certain*~~ places. I have 1.2gbit with no cap fr fr.
It is if you don't live in a city. 125gb would take me about 2 days to download in rural UK, while it takes my buddy in Cologne (thats Germany, for you Americans) maybe 10 minutes.
>Spend $100 to play the game 5 days early
>spend the entire time downloading the game
haha they'll let us pre-download r-right?
Yeah and they’ll allow early reviews too!
>taking more than an hour or two to download and install a 125 GB game
Black person, unless you're living out in the middle of nowhere using dish for internet there's no reason it'd take you a long time to download the game. High speed internet is dirt cheap these days. I'm paying $27 a month for 100 MB/s and that's the cheap package
5 day early access
for a full singleplayer game???
they want people to buy this and find bugs for them
I pre installed the game from game pass and got that old man thing
>it never has been
It has, but way before 99.99% of the users on this board were born.
I remember when measuring things is GB was mind boggling and then it became the norm and we moved on to TB. As storage needs increased so did harddrives. Then SSDs started hitting the consumer market and they were stupid expensive, but an high capacity HDDs were still reasonable. Now SSDs are practically a dime a dozen. I guarantee someday we'll be talking in terms of TB and reminisce with rose tinted glasses about the "good ole days when games were less than 500GB" or some shit.
The bottleneck for consumer is essentially how fast you can move all this data around.
This is true, but this exacerbates the very issue Im talking about. Storage space isn't a problem. The cost per GB isn't breaking the bank. The issue, again, is bloated games requiring faster download throughput.
>I remember when measuring things is GB was mind boggling and then it became the norm and we moved on to TB.
Imagine starting using computers with 5.25", no HDDs and thinking that 1024 kilobytes is a lot of RAM.
What? It's always been poorgays. It's less than half an hour of downloading if you have gigabit. Even if you don't it's only a few hours with broadband.
>Downloading a massive game can take some people hours and it sucks
play something else while downloading and download games when you're asleep. what a nothingburger.
Storage is dirt cheap, even nvme's. Stop acting like you need to have 50+ games installed at all time. Internet speeds in the first world are increasing faster then game sizes, and 1gb fiber is becoming the norm.
But no, its all a conspiracy.
>storage is cheap
>y-you don't need to have more than 5 games installed
Which is it, Black person.
it's 2023 anon, if you don't have a 24TB NAS to hold your cold files while saving SSD space for games I don't know what to tell you
Is this actually an issue? 2tb ultra high end super reliable samsung NVMEs are $100 off sale nowadays, I've got 6gb of SSD storage, and then over a dozen tb of hdd storage for video and music, do people not have space? Do they just hang on to the shit they install forever?
Some people in burgerland are still stuck on 1MB/s (~700KB/s)
It would take over a week to DL while being unable to do much else, network wise.
Anon, 1 tb ssds have been affordable and the norm for many years now.
Problem is bandwidth usage, not not having the space for it.
Honestly it makes sense for a giant rpg to take up lots of storage space. It doesn't make sense for a ten hour action game or online multiplayer shooter to
>he doesn’t have an 8tb m.2 ssd
poor people don’t deserve any rights.
I'm honestly sitting here about to buy a 3080, would it be worth upgrading from a 1070?
get the 4070. Its like 200 bucks cheaper and its basically a 3080. Plus, you get dlss 3
That isn't a plus.
SSD prices fricking crashed... it's 50 bucks for 1TB
REMINDER that Skyrim was a 3.8GB install on xbox 360. Bethesda fell the frick off in the compression department.
American companies bloat up games because the executives that run these companies believe that the more bloated the game they sell, the less space their customers have in their hard drive for rival companies' PC games
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
A statement invented to disguise malice. The logic breaks down when you're talking about decisions that had to be passed over by dozens of professionals.
>decisions that had to be passed over by dozens of professionals.
>professionals
Like what? Marketers, managers, "chief executive officers", shareholders?
All but the last, and also lots of engineers. Plus in this case it's very obvious. Consumer grade computers have 1-2 tb hard drives, it's obvious that making games this big occupies a substantial portion of their storage, and that's the point.
>and also lots of engineers
Yet these are subordinate to all of the rest. Either explicitly or effectively. They can only suggest using compression algorithms to save space, which will not be allowed because it will sell anyway and so extra hours spent on it would not result in measurable ROI.
Nintendo is the only company that cares about getting rid of bloat and optimization.
>Graphics that aren't realistic but still look good, good visual clarity, and are under 30 gigs > Graphics that try to win against nature (will lose), look like shit, make everything hard to see, and bloat up the harddrive with 100+ gb.
It's not even just graphics, but shit like intentionally including uncompressed sound files for every dub.
No but those uncompressed 200mb per texture files really adds onto it as well.
Nah. The Witcher 3 on Steam with all DLCs is less than 40. This ain't over three times as good as this. AAAs can triple-rim my ass.
>complains about game sizes
>but not the idea of playing a game through a constant, everlasting video stream download
Cloudgays are the most moronic, delusional people I have ever seen in my life.
You're a fricking moron, he's saying that streaming is bad but companies are trying to make it seem more palatable by making downloading and storing games more difficult
I don't play goyslop
>Bocchi the reddit
You watch it, though.
Bocchi website.
That is correct, reddit is a Bocchi website.
Or maybe it's just a natural repercussion of advances in technology.
Elite dangerous is 25 gigs
its sad but that's actually not a lot seeing as how modern call of duty games go into the fricking 300 gb
>Companies are creating a size problem so they can offer you the solution. Streaming.
>Companies are creating a size problem so they can offer you the solution. Streaming.
anon they are not that smart. they are creating a size problem because actually optimizing the game costs time and money, which could mean that the hot new game doesn't come out at the right moment and doesn't sell. Sure games like Elden Ring proved that having a mostly stable game release at a random time could result in Millions if the game is actually good, but marketing teams hate that shit
Why don't they just sell games on SSDs?
why would they?
A better question would be, why can I not take an SSD to some physical location, download the game there at a much higher speed, then transfer that to my computer and transfer it to my main drives?
just download the game at a friend's house on an external drive and bring it home once it's done
unless you're asking for a store/establishment where you could just rent a computer or bring your own to download at high speed for a price?
>new games now cost $100
I live in a post-soviet hellhole country and still can afford a 1TB SSD without an issue.
Even a poorgay neet can get a SSD OP
I have no interest in shitty games like this so it doesn't effect me
1TB nvmes costs $60 nowadays. Sometimes it even goes lower on sale.
It's fun that you can see who still has their parents paying their bills in this thread.