This is why it was nerfed to being a 1st level spell instead

This is why it was nerfed to being a 1st level spell instead

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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    what was nerfed into a first level spell?

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Your throat only opens to gulp water; otherwise it's contracted. The "open container" would be the interior of your mouth, and "up to" means it fills the container but won't fill a container with a capacity larger than 10 liters.

    Your enemy has a mouthful of water.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Your throat only opens to gulp water
      And to, y'know, scream.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly a half-decent counterspell tactic; just stick something in his mouth every time he starts casting a spell.

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    People aren't containers.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      What are you, some kind of filthy skeleton?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Okay, now look up the definition for object, and you'll be able to see where you're wrong.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          seems fine to me, nothing here excludes living people

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Creatures and Objects us separate rules in dnd.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not only that, but it highlights people as a potential object.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >object - set of matter that is not, nor has ever been, alive and interacts with at least one of the senses
            Google may have most common contextual dialogue options, but the actual word definition excludes anything that had any state of life. Unless you want to also argue that goals and aspirations or that conceptual oppositions are now physical containers that can be filled with water.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is where OP got it wrong, the spell clearly only works on women.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just because YOUR skull doesn't contain anything...

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not everything that contains something is a container. Just like not everything that drives is a driver. Words aren't the same thing just because they are etymologically related.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Drug mules disagree with you

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, I think they're getting hung up on the "transport" part and ignoring the "hold" part. Do your lungs hold air? Congrats, they're a container. It's not hard to figure out.

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    As a GM, I would rule that you deal one nonlethal damage, as you are effectively waterboarding the target. If the target isn't restrained, they're probably going to get up from being prone on their turn and start fighting you for being a sadistic pervert

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm pressure sure waterboarding doesn't involve filling their lungs full of water.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        I haven't read the manga, so I have no idea about this guy's lungs being filled with water too, just his mouth and maybe nasal cavity

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Cause 5e lets you cast 0th level spells as much as you want. It's kinda a bad idea to let a level 1 spellcaster make as much water as they want on demand.

          If it does fill the lungs then use drowning rules.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Create water doesn't work as a kill spell. You can target a person, but it deals no damage, at worst you're forcing them into encumbrance with additional weight of the water.

            >If it does fill the lungs then use drowning rules.
            That's not true, only failed Swim check causes drowning.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's implied that he died after that.
          It might work like the Drown spell, which is 2d6 per turn for 10 minutes, but for a much shorter duration.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Actually he appears again imprisoned in a later chapter

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    How you haven't been permabanned yet is beyond me.

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cantrips in 3.5 are limited use, Anon. Only in Pathfinder they are infinite.

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >That feel when you silent cast create water over and over again into the mouth of a public speaker so they just keep gargling the whole time while everyone stares on confused as frick.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Use it to frick up vocal based spell casting. Particularly bad if you are using magic backlash rules for miscasts

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw you use mage hand to give the king a wedgie while he's giving his great speech

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because anime is gay?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >newbie

  9. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Note: Conjuration spells can’t create substances or objects within a creature.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Rules have never stopped "creative magic use" shitters from trying their shit.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good thing his hand isn't within a creature but rather at the entrance to an opening, then.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Might as well just smother him with a pillow at that point

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Pillow only works better when they're sleeping. Holding a hand to their mouth while two and a half gallons of water go down their throat seems a lot faster.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're still gonna have to pin him down and wait out the suffocation rules whether you're smothering him, strangling him, holding his head under the water, or magically waterboarding him.

  10. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    kino

  11. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is this still such a roadblock? you in general can't cast a spell somewhere if you don't have a clear path to it. You can't even SEE someone's lungs.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      If I'm forcing water down someone throat I don't need to see where it's going for it to get there.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have glasses of lung-seeing

  12. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >hey dm does this guy's insides count as "an open container"?
    >no
    Woooooooooooooooow

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sweet, with his lungs unable to contain oxygen I don't even need to do anything for him to die.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        1.) Chem class 102, oxygen isnt contained unless pressurized, like all particles in a gaseous state. At best you could misuse the term to describe the bond made to be transported through the body by blood but that is for biology.
        2.) English class 101, a body by definition cant be a container as living is mutually exclusive from object categorization and is only open when dead or cut open. If you deal enough damage to do either you can try to fill the lungs with water.
        3.) Now cease being a homosexual and use your swift action and move or end your turn as this was your last warning.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Wouldn't it be better to put the water in a bucket and hold his head under that?

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