This shit was actually good
Better than sa2 by far
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This shit was actually good. Better than sa2 by far
This shit was actually good
Better than sa2 by far
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No one was saying this until kids that've played this game as a kid started posting on Ganker.
I didn't get to play it as a kid but played recently and liked it. Just wish it wasn't so glitchy
Dunno about that. SA2 was boring as frick quite often but also a lot more polished.
Sonic Heroes was more fun, but Sa2 had the better story.
agreed
What's it like living with a wife who's cheats on you, Mark?
par for the course for the irish
He's let himself go, he's added a lot of weight
Veronica should kill herself for what she did to my boy Oney
LSmark seems like a cool person and i dont usually care about eceleb drama, but its weird how this isnt even the first time ive learned about a woman dating someone 10 years younger than them and abusing their inexperience lmao
>heroes = LS mark, sa2 = cybershell
artificial drama
kino trio
Sega can say whatever, Team Dark is goat.
Team Dark the only thing that managed to make Shadow remotely enjoyable and SEGA wants to deny it.
>Shadow takes popcorn from Chao
>Chao blips slightly darker
This will always piss me off. Dark characters abusing Chao are supposed to make them go towards the hero alignment. It would have been such a nice little detail if they didn't frick it up.
Gentlemen. I would like to have sexual intercourse with that bat.
Mastering missions in SA2 > Getting to the end of Heroes
both are fun, but there's more worth while challenges and platforming even with all the emerald hunting and mech stages. I enjoy conquering that version of a slog compared to what Heroes does to pad out levels and the final act.
just play only the speed stages in sa2 using a completed save file and just play team dark in heroes
no.
I want a breakdown as to why.
Better music
Better graphics
Better level themes
2 acts and a boss
Got rid of shitty mechs
Pure gameplay with appropriate story instead of slog 80% treasure hunting and mech stages with edgy kids story filled with plot holes
The presentation is nice, but the actual gameplay's a jankfest. I finished a second playthrough since release recently and I'll likely not do another.
>SHIT
>ROCK
>YEAHHHH
SOOOONIC HEROOOOOOOES
My parents pirated the Xbox version of this for me as a kid, and since the name of the game was misspelled in Xecuter2’s home menu as “SONICHEROES” my sister and I would sing along to it as
>sonneh cheeeeeerows
>(sonneh cheeeroooows)
XD
Are you still that moronic?
Heroes has some of the best level themes and music in the entire series. Don't they still use the Heroes aesthetic for the racing games and other spinoffs?
they use seaside hill for the racing games and spinoffs a lot, heroes did the best original/unique level theming I wish they had kept it up, at least we kinda got that again with superstars recently
Team Sonic Racing has some pretty amazing remixes of Heroes level themes.
The only one I'm iffy on is the Roulette Road song, probably the weakest remix in the game
Sonic heroes more like Sonic Kinos
Such a wonderful game
Man I love the part on the stage where no matter what you do the spiky wheel hits you in a loop de loop and makes you fall out.
>being filtered by a kids game
The absolute state
Whast about the multiple times where you glitched through the floor and died
Or when the targeting barely worked
Or when everything was stiff as frick
Or when the stages were blander than milk
None of those are true
>scares the shit out of you
perfect start to the game love the early levels and their music
This stage was a worthy successor to Pumpkin Hill.
>actually good
correct
>better than SA2
bait.
Sonic heroes like everything else from the adventure era was great, but SA2 (and 1) remain the peak of the franchise.
Op here
Sa1 is much more fun than heroes but heroes is more consistent
consistently SHIT
Assuming these are both you, Music is subjective. I'd say that as a standalone album that you listen to all the way through, Heroes wins. As something that is part of the game, SA2 wins by a landslide with all its scenario tailored music, wider variety, and proper teasing and build up to the main theme. What Im Made Of and Live and Learn are pretty much neck and neck for being some of the most facemeltingly awesome songs in all of vidya, but Live and Learn got proper care given to it that What Im Made Of didnt.
Graphics are on par, dont kid yourself. In fact SA-2 probably takes this one simply for having better in game models and more cohesive textures.
Level themes are all completely fitting on either side, but 2 has more of them and as an added bonus they fit the scenario the story has put you in each time too. (With the exception of mission street)
Level and boss format doesnt really matter unless you are an autistic classicgay. Also SA2 kinda gives you a boss every 2 stages or so too.
Power formation is mechs. You get ranged attacks, you glide, you slow down, and all the enemies have HP bars now.
Story is to taste and yours is shit.
SA2 wins. Heroes is just your favorite.
Level themes are much much much better in Heroes. Imagine classic sonic levels, but in 3D. That's what sonic heroes is.
You're telling me 10 levels of the same ARK rooms beat seaside hill, grand metropolis etc.?
>city, prison, prison harbor, forest and jungle, aquatic mine, pumpkin hill, desert pyramid, space, hotter area which is still space but still
your autistic summation might fit Shadow the Hedgehog but these imaginary 'ark' rooms that take up 5% of the game are a nothing burger when you play the same themes 4 times in a row for the full experience.
Pumpkin hill and space are literally the only levels in SA2 with unique themes, the rest are literally parts of a city, generic forests and Sandopolis Zone. Dark story is literally the same fricking ark room 10x over
>beach
>"future"! city
>bullet station, another canyon area
>power station, industrial area again
>jungle again
>another haunted area
>mystic ruin area
>pinball/casino area
>egg fleet area
heroes isn't exactly breaking new grounds either
Pic related is better than anything in SA2 by a mile
That's the most linear fricking thing I've ever seen, and you're going to miss all that 'HECKING KINO' when your HEADS SPINNING! You are a loop prostitute.
NTA but to be fair I'm pretty sure Heroes has more alternate/branching paths than Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 combined.
(Not saying Sonic Heroes is better than either of them)
It does not even if you were to compare Speed only, mech included it's not even close. Plus the potential for skips in both those game styles are more fun to perform if I were to choose them over Heroes which had the shittiest spindash in a 3D game at that point until it was just removed from boost and brought back shititer in Frontiers in the drop dash.
SA1 sure, it was linear on the regular path, but again movement and skips were the best in that. I could spindash jump a lot of stuff and find a 1-up on a building in speed highway or on a rapture in Red Canyon. And I didn't need a character swap to do that either.
The better elements of Heroes for maybe just Sonic or Shadows team is almost as good as SA2's good parts.
>SA1
is it even possible to get all emblems without spindash spam? I've never been able to beat time trial emblems without it.
learn skips to get 30+ seconds under your belt, then spindash spam happier than before. Unironically if you are emblem grinding you are going to want to look for conventionally placed shortcuts and just places where you know you can clear distance with a spindash jump and homing attack dash to cutdown on time.
Ah I misunderstood in my post. Conflated "Theme" with "Music". I would say that the levels in heroes are more interesting for sure. Simply due to them having a good deal of variety, If I was playing without story or didnt care about story then I would give it the win. But as I stated the levels in SA2 fit within the thematics of the game itself and form a more cohesive whole.
Sonic Heroes is a lot of individually good things smashed together. SA2 is a lot of good things cohesively synergizing with each other. Like I said at the outset
both are good but SA2 is peak.
Its pretty cool how depending on what team you choose not only do the abilities of your guys change(like the chameleon guy going invisible) but also the level layouti tselves changes.
Its like 4 games in one.
Yeah but only a little bit. Its more like getting Pokemon Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun, Ultra Moon on a single disc. There are differences between all 4 but not nearly enough differences to be worth playing them all back to back to back. And while Chaotix's kit was very cool, the fact that they had these ridiculously tight scavenger hunt missions was bad. It slowed the game down way too much. Which conversely is why shadow is also remembered poorly.
These arent bad elements, they were just exacerbated.
i never knew people considered heroes bad until recently because i havent been a sonicgay since i was like, 11 with no internet
Threads about any Sonic game be like:
>This is the worst game of all time
>This is the best game of all time
nu-shitposters be like:
>not going to read thread
>you all stink LOOOOL
You should relax.
ur gay and cringe and not even funny.
>not even funny
Good. I wasn't trying to.
>garbage slippery controls
>good
>try to punch an enemy while in power formation in the general vicinity of a cliff
>zoom straight to the edge and to your death
>cross yourself and say a Hail Mary before switching rails while grinding
>fall through the rail you're trying to land on and die
Heroes sucks. Controls like ass.
have a nice day idiot
Nah. Go shit your pants whenever Cybershell talks again.
I dont know who that e celeb is you fat bastard. Go hit a treadmill
see
Metropolis 1 theme still plays in my head from time to time to this day.
Baller soundtrack.
Iktf
>WHOOOOOAAA MY HEADSS SPINNING
>tfw some shiposter on Gamefaqs made up some bs of unlocking a fifth team: Team Robotnik with Eggman as flying, Metal Sonic Classic as Speed and Chaos 0 as power if you S ranked every team playthrough
I wasted so many hours
I'm playing through all the 3D Sonic games right now. I couldn't finish Heroes. It's too fricking infuriating for me to have fun with it. I stopped after finishing two stories and skipped to Shadow the Hedgehog with the Reloaded mod. I'm very happy with my decision.
>It's too fricking infuriating for me to have fun with it. I stopped after finishing two stories and skipped to Shadow the Hedgehog with the Reloaded mod
Unbelievably filtered
If you can't play the games as the devs intended, let alone beat them, your opinion means nothing
>homing attack the ghosts on Mystic Mansion
>targeting doesn't work, die
>punch as knuckles
>his trajectory goes a completely different direction and sends you off the stage, die
>spend almost ten minutes on a massively bloated level that should have been cut in half while going for A ranks
>some moronic glitch bullshit happens, fall through the stage, die (have to do it all over again)
Also if you have a problem with mods fixing glitches and making QOL changes to gameplay which increases the fun, then you might be a complete moron
Had its good parts but most levels in Heroes are too long. I still remember trying to A rank all the dark team stages and dying just before the goal, then having to start a 10 minute level over again
>Better than sa2
>rails are still absolute shit. they was only fixed in chadow the edgehog
>enemies send you flying opposite the direction YOU are facing, not away from them
>that stupid armored robot with a red helmet and like 40 health with periodic invulneravility kills all momentum
>power characters SUCK (auto-aim messes up often, sliding off platforms and killing you)
>most bosses are spam A (or B) to win
>super cumbersome missions like "kill every single enemy in the map"
no
'they was -not- fixed' in shitdow, they are still magnetic garbage you play criss-cross on to suddenly get faster. SA2 let you crouch for speed, lean in directions to maintain speed, lean in directions to rail hop and did that all in a better vehicle. DONT YOU EVER SAY NIGDOW FIXED RAILS
nigdow fixed rails
It's the same
i was just joking cause you said not to
brap
I don't like Sonic Heroes that much but Seaside Hill/Ocean Palace are some of the best levels in the series hands down. Such a shame the rest of the levels are such dogshit.
Frick this game for forever ruining shadow's inline skate animation, he looks like a child skating around in socks now
i used to do that as a kid
Sonic Heroes has soul
SA2 is deus ex for furries
>le heckin sovl
jej
Shadow the Hedgehog didn't fix rails. It fixed rail SWITCHING. Heroes was the game that ditched the "hold B to gain speed, left and right to balance during curves" in favor of "spam button gain speed" and it did improve rail switching a bit, but it was still janky and deaths were common. Shadow changed the rail switching mechanics so that you magnetically attach to the rail your switching to, instead of flying freely into the rail.
There's an argument to be made that Shadow's rail mechanics are less fun than SA2, but it is impossible to deny that they are much more polished mechanically.
>it did improve rail switching a bit
no it didn't. if you switch at a high speed, you die, just like in SA2. the only way to survive is to let go of the stick and jump using a flight character as a safety net.
>Shadow the Hedgehog didn't fix rails
what was the issue with rails if not the crapshoot that was switching?
A QoL improvement that a modder on gamebanana could make in a day is that big of a difference from the elephant in the room of a fact that Shadow is just Heroes down to models, moveset and movement save editions to make him more epic-erer!
>vehicles, which heroes did here and there, but like Jak and Daxter but not as good and slower than on foot
the meme sled in Heroes at least went above top speed.
>Chaos Blast is a meme AoE nuke and Chaos Control is just skipping content?!?! FUN I guess?
Or it's a godsend because playing EVEN MORE LEVELS to get to the ACTUAL ending is fricked.
>inb4 B-but the SLOW FRICKING ZIG ZAG WALL JUMPING WAS POLISHED
GOODIE! A mechanic I'll use 4 maybe 5 times on a playthrough?
Shadow is just repackaging Heroes to try to appeal to mid 2000s edgy sensibilities when Sony was doing it and they had a character primo for it. I don't blame them for making Shadow, I understand why in the Linkin Park AMV generation of media but to say some improvements here or there make up for a messy experience is silly.
So, anon, a bit of backstory of this game.
> Be a Sonic Team dev in 2002/2003
> Have two guys work on all the levels, the same two guys who made all the levels for SA2
> Have one dev work on making the game run on two platforms, later expanded to three when Sony gets mad. The PS2 port is buggier than the other console two versions.
> The devs are using Renderware
> One of your level designers gets sick and the other has to slave away trying to complete the game
If you're morbidly curious, there's builds of the the game showing how rushed it got.
Not to say SA2 didn't have its own development issues, but still.
Heroes was fun. Frick the chao
>this game introduced Tails bomb rings
For what purpose?
I'm 70% sure the spinoff game gear games did that first.
NO CHAO NO BUY