This system's library was objectively better than the N64's.

This system's library was objectively better than the N64's.

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It seems like people hate to acknowledge this because of the really great 7 or 8 games on the N64, the plethora of shovelware on the PS1, and the amount of threads devoted to this topic. I do agree, but try to be more original next time. Thanks.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Here's a list of all the reasons, since you only know the stupidest ones.
      1- Playstation and N64 were two systems among a generation of a dozen different consols trying to break into 3D. Saturn, Neo Geo, 32X, 3DO, Jaguar.
      It's not hard to feel good about having an N64 when you hear about a 600 Dollar 2D console with game cartridges that cost 200 dollars each. Or you're friend tries to show you Sonic 3D blast on the saturn and it's Sonic 3D blast on the Saturn (which is not fair to the Saturn, but it's what fricking happened and it's Sega's fault it happened).
      2- Not everyone only bought one game console every 5 years. if you had enough siblings, More than one game system meant less fighting over game time. If you had DINK relatives who wanted to help out your parents, Getting them an N64 meant not having to ask what PSX games you had spoiling the surprise. If your friends were over at each others houses a lot, at least ONE of you having a different system made a pretty huge difference.

      Speaking of friends:
      3- Online hadn't caught on yet. Playstation had two control ports, unless you spent 80 bucks on a multitap- which is if you could find a store that sold them. And game devs also knew you wouldn't buy a multitap so very few games had more than 2 player. If your friend group had more than 2 people, then having 1 of them get the N64 opened up a lot of options for the whole group.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Given the amount of rpgs and third party devs who left Nintendo for Sony, it's arguably the true Super Famicom successor

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >jarpigs are better than actual games
      no

      all the best super famicom games got sequels on N64

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You seem like an asshurt homosexual

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        where is final fantasy 7? or is it on sony's consoles because they went with cds like everyone else so game wouldnt be held back, while nintendo began being autistic morons? just the fact that they to this day refuse to make normal controller is because of the failed sony deal, where sony's controller became standard, but nintendo, due to their japanese roots and value of honor, refuse to use similar design because it reminds them too much of sony and a shameful dispray

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Final Fantasy 7 was better played on PC

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            True , the mods on the pc version were amazing

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >MIDI musics in your path
            Not at the time, no

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    N64 had better party games ie Smash, Goldeneye, Mario Kart 64.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      CTR was the better kart racing game, IMO

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I tried ctr on my psp. Found it hard to see shit on such a tiny screen as it was designed for a big crt. Anyway did crt have anything in it that compared to block fort?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      And? PSX had a lot of things N64 didn't as well.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No shit. Nobody sane claims otherwise.

      CTR is better than MK64. No debate here, honestly.
      Crash Bash is (imo) better than Mario Party 1-3. I find it's minigames infinitely more fun and game-like, rather than some cheap rng-hell scenarios. Although visually I prefer MP.
      Smash, however, is a great game without an equivalent on PS1. Tekken and Mortal Kombat aren't really in the same genre imo nor are they as fun.
      >GoldenEye
      Nobody really cares. The only reason it was popular is because the franchise was popular as frick during that time. In reality the game is shit.

      I feel like the good N64 games aged better than the good PSX games since most of the good N64 games were action games with analog movement. Most of the good PSX games are either jarpigs which all end up feeling dated thanks to overtuned random encounter rates and overly long animations, or 3D games with archaic control schemes like Tomb Raider.

      Honestly I'd argue the PSX actually set the JRPG genre back because early 3D graphics basically mandated random encounters. Chrono Trigger showed early on how to do a really good game without them but that wouldntve been feasible with 3D models.

      >jarpigs are better than actual games
      no

      all the best super famicom games got sequels on N64

      I'm pretty sure most PS1 players never even played a single jrpg. Maybe it's a regional or generational thing, but neither I nor my friends/family played any of those. The leading genres on PS1 were platformers (Crash, Spyro, Rayman) and sports games (football, racing, fighting). Some people also had RE, Tomb Raider, MGS or YGO, depending on their individual taste. Nothing outside of those existed.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Mk64 was better than crash racing. I didn't know one person who even owned crash racing growing up. Outside of street fighter games I mostly played single player games on my psx.
        >goldeneye was shit
        I had fun unlocking all the levels as it was hard as frick on a baby system like N64 and playing multiplayer with my mates was always fun.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        DKR was better than both MK64 abd CTR

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >dkr
          >all water and air tracks are jank as those vehicles control like shit and are not fun
          >single player was tough and it's only redeeming feature

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          nah MK64 was still the best

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            DKR was better than both MK64 abd CTR

            >dkr
            >mk64
            >crash

            beep beep, coming through homosexuals

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >beetle racing
              >tracks are foggy messes with nothing standing out
              >accidently slip off the track? No worries keep your full speed despite driving on grass or snow
              >accidently smash into a wall? No worries that's how it's suppose to be played
              >lousy music which matches with everything else in this supposed racer

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Nobody really cares. The only reason it was popular is because the franchise was popular as frick during that time. In reality the game is shit.
        This is completely reverse compared with what happened at the time. Goldeneye had loads of people playing it and was the the game that kids were talking about at the time and wanted an N64 for, with local multiplayer as a big part of it, and most of whom didn't care that much for the movie. The license for James Bond went to other studios to make their own games, but none of them ended up as good or shifting as Goldeneye 007 itself.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Even if kids didn't care much for Bond having that franchise behind the game really helped it tremendously. Look how shit Perfect Dark was by comparison.

          I'm a a big fan for Jaws and Oddjob thanks to that game as well.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Which ever one you grew up with seems to be the better system. For me, it's N64

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I had both but I preferred N64 and pretty much everyone I knew preferred N64

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like the good N64 games aged better than the good PSX games since most of the good N64 games were action games with analog movement. Most of the good PSX games are either jarpigs which all end up feeling dated thanks to overtuned random encounter rates and overly long animations, or 3D games with archaic control schemes like Tomb Raider.

    Honestly I'd argue the PSX actually set the JRPG genre back because early 3D graphics basically mandated random encounters. Chrono Trigger showed early on how to do a really good game without them but that wouldntve been feasible with 3D models.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      A lot of PSX games had analogue controls though. Unless you're talking within the first 3 years the thing existed. Then sure. But it was on the market from 1994 to 2004, so that's not very relevant.

      A thing that makes me love the PSX over the N64 was the variety, higher quality, and volume of games.

      N64 got RE2, but PSX had RE1, 2 and 3, dino crisis 1 and 2, Parasite Eve 1 and 2, Silent Hill, Galerians, Soul of the Samurai, Vampire Hunter D, and more.

      N64 had the one best game of the genre and thats it. PSX had the entire genre, including more games with more gameplay variations and more story telling styles. That's basically how it worked across the board

      W
      So what would you rather have? The one game everyone and their brother gushes over for every genre? Or the choice of a much larger pool of games, across more genres, that could suit specific preferences much better?

      Its like comparing Mac to PC. sure Mac is "premium" and does specific things better, but PC is just the better option for more people for more reasons. Thats what we're talking about here.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The 3d Psx games are basically unplayable so I'll take n64

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Crash and Spyro are six great scotformers that top anything from the genre on the N64

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This is how it does for me, honestly. Had a PSX back in the day but I can't stand playing anything in it anymore. On contrast, the N64 has been my favorite of the gen nowadays.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    That's true but the N64's library still ain't bad, I'd take its 30-40 good games over the following complete libraries:
    >Saturn
    >Dreamcast
    >Gamecube

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      as someone who 'quit' gaming I got rid of 12 consoles and use N64 exclusively.
      I only really play for irl multiplayer or in short bursts to get a high score.
      No more lengthy story based games I beat all the good ones.
      I also like the hardware for not having moving parts as I intend to keep my collection for 20+ more years.
      Did I make the right decision having n64 my only console?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Thats probably the best one to own if you mostly do local multiplayer a lot. Personally I would have chosen one with a bigger and more varied library if you like arcadey games like a sega console

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I show loyalty to Sega the most but beat most of the games I wanted to beat.
          Had about 30 games each for Genesis, Saturn, and Dreamcast before I got rid of my collection.
          Dreamcast had multiplayer games in every category so it wouldve been a good do everything console; mine had a Model M, 2 Noctua fans, etc.
          I was very serious about it running Half-Life, Linux, etc without getting hot.
          The PS2 I had with sold state drive wouldve been ideal because I could even emulate other consoles but then I wouldnt have a physical collection.
          I admit N64 really sucks and am already bored with it, I guess its more of a nostalgia thing and me completing a collection that isnt impossible.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            It is one of the more reasonable collections to complete given its price and smaller library in general. But yea I can't imagine playing only n64 games for like 6 months and not get bored unless there is a lot of drunk get togethers playing mario party or mario kart. If i were to pick only one console for collecting i might do og xbox for a decently sized and cheap library, but I would honestly just recommend buying or installing one with a 2 tb hdd and call it a day. Ps2 is a good 2nd choice if you like its exclusives better.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              The simple gameplay keeps me satiated but juuust bored enough to not get readdicted to vidya.
              Also if the library was bigger Id be spending money unnecessarily

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That seems like a good balance, good on you anon.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    That's not saying much.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why make a thread about the obvious? The PS library wipes the floor with the N64's. Only a fully moronic person would suggest otherwise.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on the genre.

    3d platformers=n64. Ape escapes and spyro are no Mario 64 or BK. Crash, Croc, Tomb raiders all fall short.

    2d platformers=ps1. Tons of great ones. Mischief Makers, Geomon and Kirby don’t come close to saving the n64.

    FPS games=n64 with goldeneye, perfect dark, doom 64, quakes and Turoks. Even shadows of the Empire can be played as a decent FPS for its time. Honorable mention to Powerslave on Saturn. PSX Medal of Honor just ok. Best Doom port tho.

    Rail shooters=n64 just for Starfox and Sin and Punishment, two of the all-time best. Including saturn? Panzer Dragoons give these a run for their money.

    Speaking of the Saturn, we can’t really talk about shmups for ps1 or n64 without noting that they both get their asses kicked by Sega’s console in this regard. Ps1 gets the nod over n64 due to Einhander and Darius Gaiden and a few good arcade ports. N64 is pathetic here.

    RPGs=PS1. Final fantasy full stop. The most lopsided genre. Paper Mario and Hybrid Heaven are ok but just don’t hold a candle to the PSX output in the slightest. Saturn falls in the middle here, Shining Force, Dragonforce and Panzer Saga are all classics. Notably at the time the real rpg winner was gb pokemon.

    Fighting games=toss-up, depending on how you rank Smash Bros. Again, Saturn would probably be the real winner.

    Kart racers I pick Mario Kart and Diddy Kong but some prefer Crash Team Racing. For realistic racing Gran Turismo.
    (Sega Rally for Arcade). For futuristic, F-zero vs wipeout is another toss up but the 64 had decent versions of both and pod racing.

    Comparing Metal Gear Solid to Ocarina of time for 3rd person adventure. I can’t really say which is better. Jet Force Gemini is the premier 3rd person shooter. Is there a run’n’gun or hack’n’slash or even a beatemup on the N64? Dont think so. PSX has it all. But it doesnt have blast corps or Body Harvest.
    It really comes down to 20 mindblowing A+ n64 games, or 100+ good A- psx games.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Fighting games=toss-up, depending on how you rank Smash Bros.
      I won't bother with the whole post, but this part at least gave me a good laugh.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        i did a fricking double take at that
        i am not convinced that poster has played a single one of the games they brought up

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I’d stand by it. Lots of casuals love the shit out of Smash Bros and lots of people that hate “real” fighting games love that shit. I’m not a big fighting game guy but that games fun to frick around with. If I was a big fighting game guy I’d just play the arcade perfect stuff on saturn instead of the shitty version on psx

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >If I was a big fighting game guy I’d just play the arcade perfect stuff on saturn instead of the shitty version on psx
          Dd you forget 3D fighters existed? Tekken 3, Soul Blade, Rival Schools, Tobal 2, Bushido Blade, Bloody Roar 2,...
          Jesus, man.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >tekken
            >moves are literally just pressing 2 buttons at the same time
            >all 4 buttons us the win button with gon

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >banjo kazooie
      >3d platformer
      please get your auistic fanbase on the same page. They're out of control.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Rail shooters=n64 just for Starfox and Sin and Punishment
      No Pokémon Snap?

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    the N64 has more 10/10 games, but the PS1 has more 9/10s

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >This system's library was objectively better than the N64's.
    Sizzling hot take righ here

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Castlevania sotn
    Metal gear solid
    Yugioh
    Resident evil 123
    So yes

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You mean Resident Evil 1 and 3

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I know re 2 was on 64 too, but i prefeer the uncompresed music/fmv of the ps1 ver.
        And yeah 1 and 3 were my favs at the time

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >objectively better

    >objectively
    >better

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    had more good games
    n64 the good games were better though

    as an adult in 2022, i would say to buy them both

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The order is PS1 > Saturn > N64 > PC-FX.

    This isn't disputable.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >forgot 3DO, CDi, and Jaguar

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, and?

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    water is wet

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      And OP is gay.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The PnesOne has better JRPGs and bigger gaymes. The N64 had some pretty amazing titles though far less games.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >library is at least 4 times larger

    makes sense

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    psx won, look at british, french, italian and iberian sales from 1995 to 2002. PSX won due to having better games and most of the games.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Going by sales is a shit indicator as psx xmen vs SF probably outsold Saturn's version.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It mostly won because it was cheaper and easier to pirate for. Most people buying any game console are buying it to play sports games and maybe like one game that has guns in it.

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I wanna get a controller adapter for emulation, will any do or is there a specific one thats a must buy?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      *sigh*
      HANG ON. I have 2 and they're both wonky, but can't remember the specifics between the both of them. I'll get back to you on that once I'm done fiddling with'em.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      *sigh*
      HANG ON. I have 2 and they're both wonky, but can't remember the specifics between the both of them. I'll get back to you on that once I'm done fiddling with'em.

      Alright, so:
      Blue Adapter(PS1/2 to PC USB Dual Controller Adapter)
      >Reads my PS1 Dualshock controller inputs (Model SCPH - 1200 A) in both ports
      >Doesn't read the PS2's (Model SCPH - 10010 A), but the Analog light can be turned on/off

      Black Adapter (USB PS2 to PS3/PC Controller Adapter)
      >Reads both controllers inputs
      >D-pad reads as the Left Analog stick while the stick functions as itself properly IE.) They're both linked, tired to separate them with no success
      To whoever it was that recommended this controller on here several months back: FRICK YOU!

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Ah, I bought the blue one on lik-sang (rip). I think it worked well enough with my PS2 controller, but that was more than 15 years ago, so I don't remember exactly.
        Nowadays I just use my DS3.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Blue dongle one works for my original dualshock2, cant tell you the exact model off the top of my head, didnt even know there were multiple ones.

        That being said, vibration doesnt work.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >didnt even know there were multiple ones
          Yeah there's several variations. The differences are mostly internal with the circuit board.

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Even the "good" N64 sucked, i couldn't get into all those Rare games, crash and spyro really spoiled me, PSX had everything, every genre, for every demographics, even now with the full 64 romsets, nothing interest me, i still play psx games and will never stop.
    N64 lovers are nintendrone with no standards mommies bought the console because it was more kid friendly.
    Even saturn just with its shmup library is better than N64.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Rare games were no better than PSX shovelware, you are right. But M64 is king.

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You can't have an objectively good video game, so that's a nonsensical statement. Either you like it or you don't.

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It depends on what you want. Personally, I don't think any of the 3D platformers on PlayStation are quite like Super Mario 64. Nothing is an exact replacement for each other between the systems. (Unless it's quite literally a superior port.) I'm fricking tired of these console war homosexualry threads. Spyro is one of my favorite games. Banjo-Kazooie is also one of my favorite games. I'm tired of it being presented as an ultimatum to only play one of them when it's perfectly reasonable today to own and play multiple retro consoles.

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Obviously this is true.

    Only reason Saturn can compete with the ps1 is because the 2d animations are much better and Sega worked magic on Sega rally, vf2, fighters megamix, Panzer dragoon trilogy,

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    In my honest opinion as an N64 kiddie, N64 had two major strengths and that was big 3D adventure games like Zelda or Banjo Kazooie or even Turok, and four player party games like Smash Bros or Mario Kart or Goldeneye.
    PS1 is more varied, and has more games in general, obviously. Games that tried to be fully immersive 3D tended to look a bit of a mess because of all of the wobbling. Games with fixed cameras worked a lot better within the Playstation's limitations, especially if they made heavy use of pre-rendered graphics.
    Overall I'd probably say the Playstation library is "better" just by virtue of there being so much more of, but it really depends on individual tastes. As a kid I pretty much wanted to play Zelda, so I bought the console that had Zelda, and I was happy with it. These days my tastes have drifted more toward arcade oriented genres like shmups or sidescrolling action games, of which the N64 doesn't really have a whole lot to offer. I care less about JRPGs than ever, mind you, so you may as well just replace all of those SquareEnix games with a big black void, for all I care.
    If I had to repeat the generation I can't imagine I would be satisfied with anything less than both consoles, and maybe a good gaming PC on the side.

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I am more interested in the advances in terms of peripherals & connections of the ps1 more than the games or something else.
    pretty good console

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The parallel I/O I only used for Game Shark. But what were the other uses of the parallel and serial I/O?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        the serial port was used for game linking with 2 systems
        the parallel port was not used for anything official, but action replays and game sharks used it, so Sony removed them later on

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    thanks for stating the obvious, you fricking moron. Waste of a thread.

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    n64 is a much better multiplayer console

    other than that, only 20-30 games worth owning

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    So is the Saturn's

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I believe Nintendo is the greatest developer of all time, but you'd have to be either insane or an absolute nostalgiagay to disagree with this, it's astonishing this topic still generates discussion to this day lol

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    agreed

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I mean the N64 was a good system to own as a kid if you were not going to pirate because at the end of the day it has more than enough games to make you entertained, and some of the best games of that gen came out for it. But now in hindsight, even the (jap) Saturn library was more varied and had a bigger share of games that were good, in absolute numbers.

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    i'd rather have 3 perfect games that I can replay for the rest of my life than 200 pretty good games that you 'beat'. but not everyone is like that so its ok

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