>This was considered a good character roster in 1997

Its really not. Nobody anywhere was thinking anything even remotely resembling the MCU 10+ years before the fact

Oh my bad I thought you were still talking about MSH

Fricking MCU baby

Loki is MCU but he's not a bad choice.
Just stick him in the green and yellow suit with goat horn and let him do all his illusion, curse and wizard bullshit and he'd have a fun moveset.

And who says we can't have more? You can do anything with magic.

Taskmaster is a perfect pick for a fighting game. Shit, I would've fit in some Capcom moves, if I could.

I'd rather give Psylocke a DP. Right? Anyone want in?

For a character that's a perfect physical mimic his moveset in UMvC3 kinda sucks ass though, Very linear gameplay.

Psylocke was very popular in Japan and also in the Jim Lee era X-men comics. And also they already had her sprites. Jean was a huge c**t and she wasn't Phoenix at the time.

I miss Niitsuma bros. After Marvel 3 he was stuck making mobage until he left Capcom. His leadership and 8ing's creativity are what made TvC & Marvel 3 two of the best fighting games ever.

What absoluitely floors me is how we've gotten three MvC games featuring Resident Evil characters and none of them were Leon. And yeah I know about the mods for UMvC3, that doesn't count.

He is not in 7 nearly enough to be a major character.

the ONLY time you would have gotten leon is mvci, because that was made by americans, the reason he wasn't is because it was cheaper to just port chris forward.

Leon is not a main character in RE, he plays very little role in the story as a whole, he is only a main character in his own games. Chris is the male lead and plays a major role in every game except 2, 3 and 4.

Leon was heavily considered for TvC Ultimate All-Stars as a rep designed for the western fans due to the update getting localized, but they went with Frank West instead.

I blame Marvel having a stick up their ass about Fox and the movie rights, which is all the more infuriating because they just ended up buying out Fox anyway like a year after MvCi happened.

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Who gives a shit? Fricking dumbass jokers like Firebrand get a slot but not Leon? Frick outta here.

Firebrand has seniority.

Firebrand explicitly got in over Nina from Breath of Fire due to Niitsuma calling for a ban on female characters in Ultimate because of a huge waifu war within the dev team; BoF1 Nina was the closest to getting in but they never reached consensus so they went with another classic character with wings. Similar logic lead to Nemesis getting in after Gill was turned down for being one Street Fighter too many so the team tried to come up with a "tall villain" to replace him.

>Leon was heavily considered for TvC Ultimate All-Stars as a rep designed for the western fans due to the update getting localized, but they went with Frank West instead.
frank west makes more sense in the end anyway if your going to appeal to western fans, main character of one of their biggest new ips that was doing well in the west, but leon would have fit more in the art style he does have a very anime astetic

>Fou-Lou was considered but scrapped because the team thought that even Japanese players wouldn't know who he was
this is sad and fricking hilarious
REMAKE BREATH OF FIRE 3 AND 4 ALREADY YOU FRICKING COWARDS

Yeah Marvel at the time was in the middle of trying to push Cyclops as a villain or at least as a misguided but wrong character and so didn't want him in the game because it would undercut that. Same reason Venom got denied because Capcom wanted the classic Brock Venom playing like he did in the old games but Marvel was pushing the Flash Thompson Agent Venom version. X-23 got in because she's Quesada's waifu and he'd spent years trying to force her popularity.

He also showed up as a villain in two story arcs of Spider-Man the animated series.

>having crossovers with damn near everyone
that doesn't mean she's popular, hell, that usually means the opposite, she's incredibly unpopular so the writers cross her over with other characters to ride their coat tails, they're still doing that shit with Miles

That's because Wolverine and Spider-man are, and this is important, WOLVERINE AND SPIDER-MAN! They were ringers made to bring attention to floundering books.

Surge is just bootleg Jolt, so definitely not her.

>every comic she was in went under hard
Its almost as if X23 is a stupid, lazy concept for a character....

>Waifu works better than literal homosexual
You don't say.

Her "popularity" was insanely forced. She was in the Evolution cartoon and Quesada immediately wanted her in the comics because this was at the height of Wolverine appearing in every book at the same time so a cute girl Wolverine would surely be popular. He introduced her in the book that he was writing and then her creators wrote a mini for her amd immediately afterwards she was shoved into Uncanny X-Men. When that fizzled she was forced onto New X-Men and then out of the blue the writers on that book were replaced by her creators.

Yost and Kyle made her a major part of the book and also gave her a romance with Hellion (and depowered and kicked out Hellion's actual LI who had been one of the main characters to do it) and brought her with them to X-Force. Then she immediately got her own ongoing and when that ended was forced into Avengers Academy where she didn't fit and helped kill that book before being part of Avengers Arena. Her "popularity" has cooled down but it was insanely forced because the guy running everything was in love with her and I don't think she's not been in a major book since her debut. Fans back in the 2000s didn't like her and her books have never sold well.

>Fans back in the 2000s didn't like her
Nah, I was on Ganker since 2006, we liked her a ton. She started as an emotionally disfunctional goth e-girl who used to be a hooker (you can blame Quesada for that last part), and the art by Mike Choi in Target X made her look superb.

Yost and Kyles New X-Men was also a lot of fun and we were seriously bummed when it ended and replaced with some other crap book I don't even recall the name of (it had a guy named Ink who could got powers from his tattoos).

>Ganker has always had the worst taste in waifus.

That has been true for the past decade, sure, but back in '06-09 Ganker was by far the comfiest board on Ganker.

X-23 is Wolverine as an emo jailbait girl and an even more fricked up backstory. She was easily super popular the second she appeared, plus she had a few differences in her strengths.

Miles is being shoehorned in to everything and he is literally just a cuck writers mary sue. He is Peter but black and has even more powers, yay!

They did make her Wolverine while Logan was dead, but that only lasted, like, one year or so as is usual for comic book deaths... and not several movies.

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The Fox shit will never not be moronic. Imagine trying to kill off one of your most popular series because someone else is making movies for it. It's not like this will stop them from making those films, all that will happen is the free publicity from those movies will be wasted.

Comic book companies have done pettier shit. DC was at one point trying to get rid of SUPERMAN of all people, because the estate of the creators sued them. So you had crazy shit like the Superman book mainly featuring Mon-El wearing a "S" patch, while Clark was on a small planet full of krypton survivors, dressed as a kryptonian, teaching them how to use their powers and preventing them from just stomping Earth in half.

Oh right because Miles has been a such a dynamic character now with his fricking lighting sword. Frick off. Even Verse Miles is just so completely banal.

dude HOT CLAWS. Good lord the people writing this garbage...

Wolverine NEVER should have had his original explained period. LOGAN is cool exactly because his past. We don't know the details of who he was or where he was from (outside Canada, bub) but the bits and pieces and friends and enemies we got always gave a much cooler picture of the character. A mystery is cool. And sometimes it's cooler left unexplained. I mean think about it. We've known his real name as James for over a decade now and people still jsut call him Logan anyways.

It's a stupid power that shouldn't be given to anyone. Adamantium is already enough. This is just pure moronation.
>Like this would be like giving Peter the ability to shoot venom to make him more distinct from Miles.
Miles already has a venom attack (Which Mig totally had first BTW.) It's superficial crap.

>cuck writers Mary Sue
Miles had to eat shit for the majority of his movie, he is nowhere near a Mary Sue

comic Miles and movie miles are basically completely different characters, comic Miles is set up as a replacement for Spider-man from the start, whereas movie Miles actual has to earn the title of Spider-man

Nobody cares about movie shit. Read a fricking comic book.

>His author was also a huge idiot who regularly took huge shits on continuity, and mentioned several times how he has huge boners for blacks and israelites.

In fact this got so fricking stupid that at one point DC made a parody of him in the form of the Brown Bomber, who was basically Bendis with the ability to turn Black with a huge afro.

Ultimate Spider-Man and New Avengers. At the time he had a distinct feeling (even if it was Seinfeld core).

That and he planned ahead half a decade worth of crossover events that sold well.

New Avengers was fricking dumb, it was just Marvel All Stars and every character talked like a ten year old. He had some good ideas, I give him that, but for fricks sake they should've had someone else write the actual script.

It's still mad about what he did to Jon.
>Oh it seems like people actually like this new character and his run with Damian seems to be one of the only things fans actually seem not to hate.
>I know let's age him up, completely eliminate any dynamic he had previously and make him queer bait.
God I fricking hate Bendis so much.

I don't like Miles, but for the aake of argument, he has extra powers because Peterman's a literal fricking genius and can make gadgets and invented web fluid. Miles needs the zap zap as an extra crutch.

The issue with Miles...atleast when I read him was that Venom shock was just as much a narrative crutch as it was for Miles in-story. I always expected it to shit out or backfire in some form. Maybe give it some limitations or a villain it doesn't work on. Never fricking happened. Bendis would end every fight that Miles couldn't outright win with that bullshit. And now I glance at Miles threads and the fricker can use it to fly and turn it into a lightsaber. Giving Miles his own powerset to set him apart from Pete is a good idea but they never seemed to use it in a creative way.

It really pissed me off at first that he had extra shit compared to Peterman, but playing the PS4 titles really made it apparent through the gameplay how he "needs" the electrical shit to stand out.
Petes web bombs and gizmos are the shit for stealth, and Miles not having them really made it clear to me that he's not the genius our boy is
The "venom" and "invisibility" are kinda lame compared to the whole arsenal Pete had in the first one
Also why the frick would you call it "Venom" when that's already an iconic name of an entire character

Because Spiders have venom, also it's a reference to his waifu Jessica Drew.

Kamala a shit. And dead.

She'll be back

>Spiders have venom
Yeah sure, but the way venom works is by getting under your skin and corrupting you from the inside, slowly killing you
Ya know, kinda like how the symbiotes work, which I doubt the symbolism was even intentional on MacFarlane's part

X-23 was initially an X-Men Evolution OC so her jumping over to the comics demonstrates that she had at least some level of popularity.

Precisely, too bad Mephisto was later turned into a palette swap of Blackheart.

Her original book was likable. It just is everything after.

The first spiderverse film was garbage and the sequel was worse. The whole franchise exists purely so every other character they can get in there can go SEE MILES IS A GOOD SPIDER-MAN TOO! SEE!! It's low effort Rick and Morty tier garbage and if I never see another multiverse again for as long as I live it will be too soon.

>Also Gwenpool > Spider-Gwen
They're both garbage meme non characters and no amount of Gurihiru is gonna change that. Just draw another power pack comic.

>She has potential
No she doesn't. She's the unholy shit child of Deadpool and Harley Quinn. She is without question the worst character marvel has created. And I am counting Spider-cide.

She's never written correctly and she has no personality. She's a shit tier character. Frick off.
>I mean she could play into the fact that she's a fighting game character
Right because META humor is totally HY-FRICKING-STERICAL!
Frick off.

You will never let her go, huh.

Go the frick to bed, DeFalco.

Well congrats you got shit taste

Actually, a few endings were nods to pervious events
>Cap's ending is reference when the F4, Namor, Banner and the Avengers sacrificed themselves to stop Onslaught
>Jin's ending is sacrificing himself like Gawaine did in Cyberbots
>Mega Man is the Weapon Get screen from every Mega Man game
>Strider's ending is just his original arcade ending

That would get in the way of visual clarity of her kick attacks.

I don't think Shuma even has a gender. I don't know why anon is acting like Shuma is female.

not good I commision art of him fricking multiple marvel females

3rd Strike, Soul Edge and EX2 Plus beats it out. Funny enough they used the screen as a cover for 1st Mega Man/Sonic crossover.

And yeah, MvC1's music is amazing. Best redtion of Chun-Li's SF2 Theme

it's such a shame that the Sonic comic imploding scared away capcom