This will upset many a you but here goes nothing:
3rd and 4th gen is better than 5th gen.
And this from someone who was raised on 6th gen.
PS1 is full of jank, PS2 is infinitely better.
N64 never played but many people say it's not worth it (few games), same with Saturn.
Older gen's have more timeless classics that aren't jank to play.
Nobody will put up with armoed core 1 when 5 and 6 exist.
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>Nobody will put up with armoed core 1 when 5 and 6 exist.
I just played through Armored Core 1 recently and enjoyed it immensely. I plan on going through the two expansion packs too, so I've already poked a hole that statement of yours, you donut.
ac2 and its fricking billions of half sequels, all good. ac3 also great. For the love of god tho stop there, please trust me. Op how is it possible that u have never played n64, never had a hot dog either? the rest of it is whatever, too each their own. But never even trying it? suspicious.
AC1 is enjoyable on it's own, on atmosphere alone. The only PSX AC game that's an actual slog to replay is MoA due to the dogshit arm follow speed reduction.
>ac2
>half a billion sequels
>the PS4 chapters
ac2, another age, ac3, silent line, nexus, nine breaker and last raven are shovelware. that's 6 fricking games.
Ac2 is by far the best game of them all, get outa here with your gay babble bullshit, Carl wiener cabinet.
I’m in the same boat, it’s a fun game.
I don’t see why OP thinks that the PS1 is full of jank and the PS2 isn’t. You can cherrypick good games or shovelware out of either one.
Not OP but I went back to play old ACs after 6 and I hated the first 3 ones, what a horrible barely fun formula. About as fun to play as Kings Field but at least Kings Field had a dungeon crawling element, that made it a bit fun. AC4 becomes fun but the missions are dogshit in that one and the story is just nonsense, AC6 is like a polished up fixed up version of AC4.
5th gen walked so 6th gen could run.
>armoed core
People enjoyed what existed at the time because future titles didn't exist, you fricking moronic zoomer homosexual.
>And this from someone who was raised on 6th gen.
strike 1
>N64 never played
strike 2
you're on thin ice OP
>from someone who was raised on 6th gen
yeah and it shows
but i liked AC1 but didn't like 5
N64 has around 100 games worth playing, I counted. That is more than enough for me to buy a system, there is no way in hell you would get through every game 100% in a library as vast as the PS games and N64's strategy is too make less games but better, stuff like Banjo-Kazooie or Smash Bros was just way above any of the competition and then there is Ocarina of Time which is considered by nearly everyone to be the greatest video game ever made.
The problem is this board is filled with seething Sonyshits who just use the same NO GAMES because they get BTFO constantly over it when it comes to all PS consoles past PS2 and want revenge against anyone they come across.
>oot is considered the greatest of all time
For a game to even be considered good it requires replay value which oot lacks.
>which oot lacks.
yeah, people don't ever play OoT more than once
I beat it once. Mucked around playing dungeons out of order and then never played it again. Mario 64 had the same problem and it was a better game. In Japan everyone and their grandma beat Mario 64 first week and then returned the game.
I think that says more about you than anything else
The N64 library is lacking in a lot of compelling single player games. This is especially true if you’re like me and Rare’s platformers never did much for you.
not really, it's just missing JRPG's
which were the staple at the time
Bullshit, most young western males who weren't weeb morons didn't play jarpigs.
Jarpigs are far and few between in the biggest selling games lists of the time bucko.
not during 4th and 5th gen mate
One or two jarpigs in a top ten seller list does not make it a "staple of the time" sweaty.
>Rare’s platformers never did much for you.
How exactly do you live without a soul?
>n64's strategy is too make less games but better
Basedtendo cope. Your system is shit and your library is shit.
>Nobody will put up with armoed core 1 when 5 exists.
Anon, the PS4 AC games are the red headed step-children of the franchise.
>3rd and 4th gen is better than 5th gen
i agree
>N64 never played but many people say it's not worth it (few games)
N64 is a "you had to be there to truly enjoy it" console. only the 1st party nintendo titles were worth a damn though
No idea what these "gens" are but for me gaming peaked in the 8 and 16 bit eras with the 32 bit era also being a pretty legit mini-era. Mid-late 90s things started to get wobbly as first developers struggled to develop polygonal games and then it became all about moronicly lengthy gameplay experiences and attachment to moronic "stories", "characters" and "franchises".
>I like 3rd and 4th gen is better than 5th gen.
OK?
>3rd and 4th gen is better than 5th gen.
4th you can make an argument for it sure. 3rd no way
>And this from someone who was raised on 6th gen.
Nevermind opinion discarded
>3rd gen
>4th gen
>5th gen
Which one's which again?
>NES/SMS
>SNES/MD/PCE
>N64/PS1/SS
The same way I don't watch anime made after 2001, I don't play games made after 2005.
No one except people with your childish view of the human experience will get at upset because your meaningless statement. It's not a zero-sum game, you know. The games industry evolved over a very short time and there a good games and games and everything in between across generations. What purpose does "generation X is best of all" serve? Does that mean there is absolutely no point playing anything outside of that window? And then you randomly pluck armoured Core out of your arsehole like that backs this garbage up. What exactly is the point of this shitty thread, I'm genuinely curious.
5th gen has traditionally been recognized as having aged poorly.
I sure love coming to /vr/ and talking about how retro vidya is shit
Not at all, people like to talk about how great NES/SNES was but when it comes to actually playing games today, pretty sure more people play FF 7/8/9 today than earlier FFs. More people play Symphony of the Night than NES/SNES Castlevanias. Early Tomb Raider, early RE, MGS1, all still played and very popular compared to NES/SNES titles. And pretty much nobody plays 2D racing games, but Sega Rally, Ridge Racer, Daytona, people still play that
>pretty sure more people play FF 7/8/9 today than earlier FFs.
I never played Final Fantasy games, but do people really prefer CD-era RPGs over cart-based era ones? Turn-based combat and random encounters work so much better (and faster) on carts, CD loading is a drag.
For FF they sure do. My problem with NES and even most SNES era JRPGs is they have tile based environments, locations are made out of repeating soulless tiles and look completely generic and boring. The ones with hand-drawn unique locations are rare. Meanwhile FF7/8/9 has gorgeous pre-rendered CGI as backdrops and all those locations are still iconic and popular.
As I said I never played any FF, but that screenshot you posted looks pretty soulful.
It's boring is what it is. Just repeating tiles, you've seen one of those towns, you've seen them all
Your taste is amazingly bad. High-quality tile-based backgrounds like that are far prettier than the kitschy, amateurish models used in later FF games' prerendered backgrounds. Those locations are still iconic and popular because people can't shut up about stuff that impressed them when they were kids. They were popular back then because normal people had (as they of course still have) bad taste.
The SNES took computing hardware technology almost as far as it could possibly go without unleashing Japanese people to do what they'd apparently always been desperate to do: filling optical discs with meaningless, over-the-top clutter. The story and mechanics of FF6 can easily be surpassed in various ways by other works, but the graphics and sound cannot.
>jank
Stopped reading there
Despite people whining a lot, games have always been getting better one gen to another. Early 3D gets a lot of flack but I think it's just people getting filtered, it's fun to see devs experiment with 3D for the first time, accidentally creating weird games that nobody would ever do again. It's an exciting gen, early 3D was exciting.
I actually think modern games are great but they're not exciting anymore, the frontier spirit of innovation died in the 2008 crisis. We're just polishing the same formulas we discovered in the pre-HD era
This will upset many a you but here goes nothing:
You have to combine 3rd and 4th gen to have as many good games as 5th gen.
And this from someone who was raised on 6th gen.
Super Nintendo is full of horse betting games, PS1 is infinitely better.
Genesis, PCE, SMS and NES are good, not saying they're bad (played them all)
Older gens have games where when enemies get close to the edge of the screen they disappear, eliminating all challenge.
Nobody will put up with Metroid now that Metroid Dread exists.
>it's the horse betting autist
It will never work.
I've already seen others copy me, I know it's working because my vantage point is greater than yours. Now go back to your samey menu based RPGs that got superior sequels on PS1.
>I've already samegayger a lot, also I'm a Ganker console warrior who is obsessed with trying to convence /vr/ that RPGs with loading times are better than RPGs without them
Not gonna work.
>ur a console warrior
>proceeds to console war
I demand you fight back as hard as I fight, it wouldn't be fun otherwise. Standing down is for the foolish and begging others to do the same is dishonorable. You know it works, which is why you've concocted a name and delusion related to it. I love all consoles, I just see that snestendo has a ton of horse betting games and I know now that you irrationally hate the superior 5th gen of consoles.
I desire stronger competition.
keep spamming the board, it won't work though.
>There's only ONE PERSON who dislikes the SNES, and he's AUSTRALIAN and TRANS!!
Does it make you uncomfortable to come to grips with the fact that the veil is coming off on the worst 4th gen console by far? NTA (I would not consider the NES "good", nor would I say I "love all consoles"), but he is absolutely correct, the PlayStation excelled and did everything the SNES attempted but far, far better.
Nobody even said anything about Australia yet, auster.
> the veil is coming off
You've been trying for almost a decade on this board. Still isn't happening.
You will be on your deathbed, and there will still be new people getting into the Super Nintendo. And it will continue to happen after you die, too.
>Nobody even said anything about Australia yet, auster.
Don't deny what you were thinking. You're the only one with this mythical Australian living rent-free in you're head, desperately clinging to this delusion that the SNES was ever, in any way, a decent console. Zoomers prefer games with actual depth and sense of action, and the unfortunate 2.68 mhz bottlenecked SNES simply cannot deliver that experience compared it's far more powerful competitors.
Go play modern consoles, all retro systems are slow in comparison. A BILLION times faster, lol
It's a shame they never do anything worthwhile with such fast hardware, as opposed the excellent 16-bit developers who were able to achieve incredible feats on the performant hardwares of their time.
anti-Auster person is insane yes, but setting yourself up as a caricature of the mythical Auster and proudly promoting his cause (which also happens to be an insane one) is not really a good way to splash cold reality onto the board
fyi Al did a Zappa style parody on Poodle Hat, "Genius in France", with Dweezil doing the intro guitar solo. I don't think Al does style parodies unless he deeply respects the style much like "Dare to be Stupid" in relation to Devo.
>this will upset many a you
Oooh another edgy contrarian OP, just what /vr/ needs to thrive
>Nobody will put up with armoed core 1 when 5 and 6 exist.
This isn't even an unpopular opinion. This board is chockful of hipsters who think even the most primitive forms of 3D are the same as modern gaming and we hear this on every single thread ps1 is mentioned
4th gen shitposters are the most arrogant users on this board. I hope when Wii and x360 become retro these copypaste shmup loving homosexuals get washed away
5th gen was a necessary step from refined but stagnating 2d technologies to emerging and still experimental 3d ones. It was certain to get ugly at times and graphics often predicated gameplay but games like Tenchu already show some mastery of the narrative potential 5g consoles wielded
>numeric generation nonsense
kys
I disagree. it was the 6th gen that was the jack of all trades master of none. all the genres that were carried from the 5th gen (JRPGs, platformers, collectathons, etc.) were worse than their 5th gen counterparts, and all the genres that started with the 6th gen (open world, console FPS, hack n slash) were improved and refined in the 7th gen.
I love the 5th and 7th gens because they mostly focused on a few genres and did those few genres very well. Peak gaming combining the 5th gen and the 7th gen and ironing out their flaws (low poly 3D, brown and piss, 240p/640p, 10fps)
peak 3D gaming was the early 7th gen (2004-2007). it was after 3D mechanics were clunky and janky and before COD FPS slop took over.
Bitch, I still play mechwarrior on snes. You don’t have to like and most people don’t, but I like it and you can beat my meat about it, sally scissor penis.
i would absolutely prefer going back to AC3 or even fricking last raven than play 6. Some iterative installations are better, others have disappointing shortfalls. It's ultimately a matter of preference and OP is a homosexual for making too many assumptions and deigning to have formed a genuine opinion when he has in fact merely farted a sickly musing into this abyss
The only good video game ever made is Street Fighter 3: Third Strike. That's not even a gen specifically.
>PS1 is full of jank, PS2 is infinitely better.
i understand and hear you people who say this, you just have bad taste