Those anyone have any tierlists like this but for other pokemon generations?
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Those anyone have any tierlists like this but for other pokemon generations?
Hitmontop 2nd Gym Badge in Crystal.
I can make some for the other Gens for you if you want?
Yes please.
Sure.
Here's Gen 1. This is including all 3 versions, Red Blue and Yellow like the Gen 2 one you posted. I'll do Gen 3 a bit later.
Mew needs surf and strength
I thought Spearow could be found on Route 22
No, he merely needs Teleport or Fly and access to Route 25
>needs Teleport or Fly and access to Route 25
Which can be done before the 2nd gym, you don't need to beat Misty to access Route 25
You could rush Surf and get to Zapdos with only 3 badges couldn't you? Skipping Surge and Erika would only leave out Fly and Strength which aren't needed to get to the power plant. Or are the power plant mons listed under 5 badges because you need the "5th" badge for Surf?
Thanks for your feedback, here is the fixed version.
If you're allowing Mew then technically you can obtain all of these after the 1st Gym Badge. Maybe even earlier.
some more improvements
>venonat is only available on routes 12-15 and safari zone, meaning it requires 2 badges
>voltorb is on route 10; it only requires 2 badges
>you only need a minimum of 3 badges to use surf, and a minimum of 4 badges to use surf and strength (for articuno)
>Venonat
Is available on Routes 24/25 in Yellow, so that is only 1 badge required
>Voltorb
You're right, Game Freak swapped the top of Route 10 to Route 9 in GSC and HGSS so I got confused. Thanks. Pic related is fixed now. Magnemite is available on Route 10 in Yellow so fixed to include it as well.
>Articuno
It says '5th badge', referring to the Soul badge, which is required for Surf.
> Those anyone
Jesus fricking christ, you amerimutts only sprak english and you don't even know it properly, that's almost as bad as the mutts who write "should of".
Actually, I'm British, this is what I had for tea on Tuesday.
>sprak
The 'e' is next to the 'r' buddy. You're not a phoneposter, are you?
This is a terrible way to show what you can get when. You're not getting every starter, nor are you getting Sunflora before Bugsy. Dunsparce is not as easy to get as Sentret. Nobody considers Celebi a regular encounter you just pick up before Whitney.
Okay I'm back. I redid Gen 2 as the OP one is slightly wrong. Here is an accurate version. It is strange that people used to think Johto had bad distribution - you can get almost all the mons fairly early on; it's no less balanced than Gen 1 or Gen 3 and beyond.
Pic related is now accurate. Also, whether or not you can get all 3 starters is based on how many games/friends you have to trade with. But that is the same for every single Generation, so this is the best way to display the starters for each Gen.
Gen 3 next.
>"accurate" version
>is less accurate
Explain how it's less accurate.
Oh wait, you can't because
is 100% correct.
-you can't get the togepi egg until you beat falkner, so that should be after badge 2
-you can't get a king's rock until you have surf, so politoed and slowking should be after badge 4
-you can't get eevee from bill before ecruteak, so espeon and umbreon should be after badge 3
-ampharos, girafarig, and octillery shouldn't be there at all if you're going off crystal
> ampharos, girafarig, and octillery shouldn't be there at all if you're going off Crystal
Not them but I think all the other lists include their version mons too
yeah that one's a nitpick but i figured i'd mention it anyway
>Togepi
Fair, fixed, see pic related.
>kings rock
Wrong. Wild Slowpoke have a 2% chance of holding them.
>Eevee
Fair, fixed, see pic related.
>Ampharos, Girafairg, Octillery
These lists are including all versions.
So all in all I got 3 mons wrong. Not really that inaccurate.
But anyway, pic related is fixed.
use these
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_ffM1uUOhfVgxkQfhe41qPq1KHZ_ISAzxnJtHt23u9M
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Np4qpfwQ_84w2jY5h8KPeIMJzxY-FOuV9SgSPexS70ghttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1cn5awGNEVZx3wuv-2EsIn3e746RfH5-Spm7mnP-_PxU
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rYii00OuCG3Ys0toeu7y7Gugic0EniQzK03zFXzN5fM
oops
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Np4qpfwQ_84w2jY5h8KPeIMJzxY-FOuV9SgSPexS70g
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cn5awGNEVZx3wuv-2EsIn3e746RfH5-Spm7mnP-_PxU
These are great but they're messy and they include all mons of all Gens, whereas the OP wants just the new mons in the new Gen.
idk why this tiermaker was missing Archeops
In comparison to BW2
Idk why Bouffalant was moved, was an accident. Should be under 8
Do you have one for all the pokemon in black and white 2?
Just add these to the gen 5 mons one
I didn't know Castform was in BW2 natively until now jesus
I like the way how Unova is distrubuted, though of course most see holding back stronger Pokemon later in the game as a negative. I think it allows Unova to keep its sense of discovery alive longer as an entirely new region that's lost in BW2.
On the other side of the coin, Hoenn and Sinnoh allow for more strong and/or iconic Pokemon to join the party earlier which makes for a better experience at the cost of frontloading the region. Rarely are people experimenting and swapping their team past the halfway point.
I always appreciate how the elemental monkeys are good enough to teach aid beginners with type coverage while remaining disposable enough to encourage players to swap them out as soon as more options become available
but players who stick with them aren't kneecapping themselves too much. they're not the best, nor should they be, but they're decent.
Gyms 2 & 6 are skippable until gyms 5 & the e4 respectively so I replaced them with nearby roadblocks
you can get rayquaza before the elite 4 thoughbeit
Platinum (I actually don’t know where if any the roadblock between gyms 4 and 5 so I just used grand lake hotel as the cutoff)
Not in Ruby and Sapphire, which is what the image is
you can trade for chatot before the second gym
i love sinnoh's dex, but between the honey tree shitmons that are obnoxious to obtain and the frickton of legendaries. it's too small to remove 4 lines like that 🙁
i wish platinum did the thing other 3rd versions did where they made both version exclusives available but excluded some non-version exclusives. i could live without croagunk or floatzel if it means getting to use mismagius and skuntank
i don't like that you put glaceon that high
You can only evolve Glaceon on the way to snowpoint village, so 6 would be correct
I think part of why I love gen 3 so much is that they give you a frick ton of good options THAT early on.
>Gyms 2 & 6 are skippable until gyms 5 & the e4 respectively so I replaced them with nearby roadblocks
wait, that's a thing?
once you deliver the mail to steven, you can leave dewford, but in order to fight Norman you have to beat Brawly at some point. There's nothing stopping you from skipping Winona entirely other than the 8-Badge-Checker-NPC at the E4, but you also can't use Fly outside of battle the whole time.
This tier maker sucked
You can get Mimikyu before the ghostium? I just did a Ghost-monotype team and every resource said it can only be encountered after the trial.
A good pokemon game should give you the option to obtain AT LEAST 1-2 pokemon of every kind before facing the 8th gym and all regional pokemon should be obtainable before the post-game.
Hence why Johto is trash.
>A good pokemon game should give you the option to obtain ARBITRARY NUMBER OF POKEMON pokemon of every kind before facing the 8th gym follow an arbitrary rule that only exists to penalize Johto
fixed for you moronerino
Silly one
Fricking brutal.
this is so misleading though, XY has some of the best Pokemon distribution in the series. you need to get it through your heads that GF doesn't give a shit about your autism of only using the newest Pokemon, they expect you to use old ones too
They have lots of pokemon but I'd argue they give you too many strong pokemon too early which is bad pokemon distribution. People are meming about Flamigo being broken in S/V but Hawlucha's right there.
it feels a bit odd that the majority of kalos's new mons are obtained after the first badge
I get that the section between the first and second badges is longer than most but wouldn't it make sense to spread things out over more of the game instead of front-loading all the new mons?
any open world game is going to inevitably lead to some people rushing to get the strongest things before sweeping the entire storyline for shits and giggles
hoppip can be found as early as route 29 in crystal. sunkern is after bugsy. snubbull can be found in route 34/35 in crystal. you don't need surf to get girafarig. qwilfish and remoraid are post game because they can only be obtained with the super rod.
>qwilfish and remoraid are post game because they can only be obtained with the super rod
Those can be obtained with any rod during swarms as along as you have that person's number and swarms are easy to manipulate
Don't you get a monkey before your first badge, not after?
yeah but you can’t get the evolution stones until wellspring cave
i don't think that's how it works
Sandile/Darumaka/Scraggy can be encountered with 2 badges, there’s a bit of Route 4 that’s accessible before the gym
Karrablast is catchable with 4 badges.
Mienfoo and Druddigon can be caught before 7 badges; there is grass accessible outside Dragonspiral before the gym.
Bouffalant/Rufflet/Vullaby/Tornadus/Thundurus are all Catchable before gym 8, you can go to the grass on Route 10 before beating the gym.