1 was great overall
2 had better gameplay but took the story in a shit direction for the most part
3 just frick the story completely.
2 and 3 have so many great moments and scenes but the overall story arch is so bad that is ruins the experience.
After ME3 and Andromeda and how 99% of games are in dogshit and propaganda in general for the last 15 years it is impossible for this game to be good. Impossible.
>Adept/Vanguard/Sentinel Shepard who just beat up an Asari via Biotic powers... suddenly gets biotically cutscene-raped by her
So that is the so-called "best DLC", huh?
they could've had unique cutscenes for every class or class grouping so shit like this wouldn't happen.
bioware are mid
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Anonymous
and to add to that, they constantly preach about how your choices matter, but in practice they show nothing really matters - everything is the same regardless of what you choose
3 did so many things right. The gameplay is by far the best in the series, the character writing is very good for the returning characters (new characters I have mixed feelings on), the story is pretty good until Rannoch, then takes a nosedive and never recovers. On the other hand there's stuff like Kai Leng and the ending which are just irredeemable trash.
It could have been great.
Ending is so bad it retroactively ruins whole series. If they are capable of pulling something like rgb ending (whole 3 plot is completely moronic btw, but still pale in the face of ending) with a straight face you can betcha they will pull it again. Thus it is impossible to immerse onself into any of their stories ever agan because no matter how good it would be it would always can be resolved in a same completely nonsensical send-off manner.
2 didn't have a story and couldn't ruin anything as result.
3 is the one that took a massive dump over everything established so far and expects you to just take it.
>Ending is so bad it retroactively ruins whole series
As someone who played the trilogy for the first time with the LE, it wasn't bad enough to ruin anything, just underwhelming. At least considering the Extended Cut Destroy High EMS ending. I just imagine Shep reuniting with the crew after the rubble scene.
With that said, frick the Starchild and the whole pick your ending aspect of it, the ending should have been determined by your choices during the games. I understand people who played ME3 when it came out had a significantly worse experience.
No. The EC fleshes out the ending and adds a scene where Shepard is seen breathing under a pile of rubble. Your crew is safe. That's where the game ends and what happens after that is up to interpretation. The ending still kinda sucks, but it does make things open ended unlike the pre-EC end where Shepard died.
Seems pretty reasonable to assume that after that you end up reuniting with your crew.
5 months ago
Anonymous
And the only way to get that ending is to play multiplayer
5 months ago
Anonymous
In the original yes, LE doesn't have multiplayer and you can still get it
>it retroactively ruins whole series
I really don't understand this argument at all.
The relays are canonically fine, they reduced the amount of damage in the EC to emphasize this. All your decisions still happened. If you don't want to kill EDI/geth then Control is still a great option that allows Shepard to live. The catalyst is moronic but that's a problem that is confined to one room in the game. The galaxy is perfectly fine. The ending is shit but saying it retroactively damages anything is moronic.
>Andromeda has good gameplay
I disagree. Squad mechanics essentially don't exist now as you cannot customize your squad members like in 3 nor really issue orders. Jetpack is fine. The profile system was extraordinary fricking gay. Not only that but the profiles were also unnecessary as you could just select three powers and you would be optimized for any enemy in the game therefore rendering the system pointless. The lack of classes makes roleplaying worse. The enemy encounter design was mid. On the hardest difficulty the game was still piss easy. The vehicle controls were fine. I'm not really sure anon what did you think was good here?
It's literally what if Ubisoft made a Mass Effect game.
An unpolished, creatively bankrupt open world game with nothing but a checklist of activities to complete.
The dialogue choices are a farce because not a single choice has any real consequence, and in fact there's only one ending.
Being able to mix all classes, and effecitvely making it so there's no classes at all, means there's no counters for you, in fact, I remember a specific build that countered literally every single enemy of the game, making.
This means you can solo any enemy and squad mates are completely pointless since you won't need their powers.
>the geth made a super mass relay by sticking three relays together >they had intended to colonize a new galaxy despite the fact that they're fricking computer programs who are quite happy to just hang out in servers on Rannoch forever >the Council races made their own plan to colonize a new galaxy which cost an unbelievable amount of money despite there being zero direct benefit to anyone left in the Milky Way >this project involves creating several AI and interfacing them with people's minds, the first of which is incredibly fricking illegal and the second of which is seen as an unfathomably moronic move >they chose a human to be the leader and public face of this project despite this taking place prior to ME1 when humans being a politically unimportant species that is disliked by many, many aliens >they also invited the fricking krogan, seen only as savage brutes, on the gamble that AI could somehow cure the genophage during the trip, which if it worked would mean a repeat of the rebellions as the krogan flood every world with sheer numbers >the krogan, who need to breed constantly to not go extinct, allowed an entire clan to frick off with all their females, except you meet members of that clan in ME2 so some of them stayed behind I guess? >they also brought the quarians along, there are only several million quarians in existence, it took a couple million humans to populate their ark, so that implies that a huge percentage of the highly collectivist and insular species obsessed with reconquering their homeworld instead of settling somewhere else to the point that they developed Space AIDS as a result all agreed to completely abandon their people and their homeworld for the complete and total unknown
And that's just the premise, it gets way worse once the actual game starts.
I honestly don't think it's the horrendous piece of shit people make it out to be (at least not after a year or two of patches). But I do think it feels like Diet version of all the original games.
Less memorable squadmates, less interesting villain, less interesting hubs in favor of big empty worlds to drive around in. Hell, it's a whole new galaxy meant to be about discovering the unknown and making contact with new alien worlds, and they remove more alien races than they add in.
>pooling 3 with Andromeduh
Frick off. Not everyone was manipulated into thinking it was bad like your basic, simple ass was. 3 has the best gameplay, without question, of the 3 and I even dare to say the best of the 3 simply because it actually deals with the Reapers and not just the mystery around them or killing off their lackies while they sleep.
ME3 was doomed from the start because of ME2 being practically a spin-off to main series and ignored or retconned most of ME1 events.
It would need atleast 1 more game but they wanted to close the whole thing in trilogy so they've just pulled McGuffin and while most of 3 story is fine, after Rannoch arc it just drops hard and ending making it even worse.
It's just wasted potential, the same thing goes for Andromeda so I'm curious how they'll retcon both 3 and Andromeda.
>ME2 being practically a spin-off
I never understood why they made it like this. Wasn't Mass Effect planned as a trilogy from the start? Why would you effectively waste one third of your series on a barely related tangent like the Collectors? ME2 is a great game but its main story is a total failure.
>ME2 being practically a spin-off
I never understood why they made it like this. Wasn't Mass Effect planned as a trilogy from the start? Why would you effectively waste one third of your series on a barely related tangent like the Collectors? ME2 is a great game but its main story is a total failure.
EA.
Mass Effect 2 was going to be the end/continuation of the Reapers, but EA got heavily involved chasing after the craze of Gears of War. A lot of series suffered the same fate in the same time span.
No they aren't you moron. Go up to a israelite and ask how they feel about being white. They'll show a look of disgust and most likely immediately say they're israeli.
>geth >angara >andromeda >muh liara >that shitty cyberpunk-looking jacket
it's so fricking over
Shepard gave them sentience so they became a lot more individualistic. They wear clothes just to style themselves.
Stop glooming and dooming and incelooming, please.
>still married to the trash garbage two-barrel gun design
I like the collapsing rifles and shit, but the fact that we crossed the black gap between galaxies only to find that the aliens in Andromeda ALSO use two-barrel gun designs was the fricking dumbest shit.
If they've done a big timeskip and Liara is the only squadmate returning from the original trilogy (maybe Wrex and Legion if you've very lucky) then the game is guaranteed fricking dead on arrival. If Shepard is dead as well then EA may as well just close the studio right now because absolutely nobody will give a single frick about a new protagonist and cast of characters, Bioware has exactly zero goodwill with their audience after years of repeated frickups and bringing back the original beloved cast is the only way to get anyone's interest.
Of course if they bring back the original cast and then do an Andromeda-tier frickup with them the backlash will be even worse than if they went with new characters to the point where it may actually kill the studio, but it's still their only realistic option at this point.
>If they've done a big timeskip and Liara is the only squadmate returning from the original trilogy (maybe Wrex and Legion if you've very lucky) then the game is guaranteed fricking dead on arrival. If Shepard is dead as well then EA may as well just close the studio right now because absolutely nobody will give a single frick about a new protagonist and cast of characters
Exactly this. It's so obvious a game killer I'm convinced that's exactly what they'll do. Bioware has shown time and time again they are incapable of making intelligent business decisions.
>If they've done a big timeskip and Liara is the only squadmate returning from the original trilogy (maybe Wrex and Legion if you've very lucky) then the game is guaranteed fricking dead on arrival. If Shepard is dead as well then EA may as well just close the studio right now because absolutely nobody will give a single frick about a new protagonist and cast of characters
Exactly this. It's so obvious a game killer I'm convinced that's exactly what they'll do. Bioware has shown time and time again they are incapable of making intelligent business decisions.
I'm really confused about this game. On previous N7 Days they released material that hinted at Shepard being alive. One image had a date that was two or three years after ME3. So people assumed the game was going to be a sequel to the OT, which made sense considering Andromeda was a colossal failure.
But now we have confirmation that the angara are in, and the outfit of the N7 agent in the teaser seems more futuristic than in the original games. So naturally almost everyone should be dead, including Shepard. I thought BioWare would be smart and erase Andromeda out of existence, but it seems like they're actually trying to tie it with the OT. I don't know what the frick is going on.
Anthem's development being a freewheeling nonstop disaster showed that EA is remarkably hands-off when they shouldn't be (a studio has absolutely no idea how to make a game work and is floundering badly) and very hands-on when they shouldn't be (aggressively pushing extreme monetisation).
>If they've done a big timeskip and Liara is the only squadmate returning from the original trilogy (maybe Wrex and Legion if you've very lucky) then the game is guaranteed fricking dead on arrival. If Shepard is dead as well then EA may as well just close the studio right now because absolutely nobody will give a single frick about a new protagonist and cast of characters
Exactly this. It's so obvious a game killer I'm convinced that's exactly what they'll do. Bioware has shown time and time again they are incapable of making intelligent business decisions.
>Wanting a corpse puppet show for no other purpose than nostalgia-wank >Pretending Shepard is some linchpin of the series instead of literally the exact same brand of self-insert as every other BioWare game whose role could be filled by any other character.
Yaaaaas sisters.
Wasn’t Conrad Verner’s sister and Zaeed’s son such quirky and fun cameos in Andromeda that totally made sense?
I can’t wait for Shepard to be resurrected AGAIN so he can say “I should go” again.
This shit is such a cancerous Normie mindset and it infuriates me that Nu-BioWare are moronic enough to do exactly that.
a corpse puppet show for no other purpose than nostalgia-wank
It has nothing to do with wanting. It'a what's necessary to make the next game anything other than a colossal failure. Bioware put themselves in this position by fricking up everything else and it'a the only way anyone is going to buy this thing. Bioware literally needs nostalgia for this to actually make money.
assuming destroy is canon or if they somehow pull off an "all endings are canon" like deus ex, i'd say the quarians managed to repair them and bring them back to life, its a possibility
They are retconning destroy so it didn't kill the geth and EDI.
For the best honestly, destroy also destroying geth and EDI on top of the reapers was something that Mac the hack Walters pulled out of his ass at the last moment with no previous narrative build up during the ending otherwise everyone would have just picked destroy and not bothered with the other endings because of how superior it is.
if they are going with a post Andromeda storyline at least give us playable Aliens. Although Bioware isn't going to get shut down within the next 3 years
>femShep
I read it was set after Andromeda, you can even see an angaran in this pic
>geth >angara >andromeda >muh liara >that shitty cyberpunk-looking jacket
it's so fricking over
Seems like the Shepard teasing was just to frick with us, and all the original trilogy companions are dead except for the writer's pet
Also bringing Andromeda shit into this is the worst possible decision they could have made, what a bunch of morons
The only thing MEA said about the Reapers is that the whole Andromeda Initiative was funded by a mysterious benefactor who knew of the Reapers threat before it was public knowledge
It's never revealed, but maybe so.
Also this Andromeda talk reminded me of how you land on a lush planet at the very end and establish the human capital, but can't even leave your ship, only look at it from the windows. That really pissed me off.
>woman main
pass, got no desire to play a walmart cashier character wearing a second skin boob armor and watching her running prostitute animation for the whole game voiced by a random hoe voice actor pretending to be tough
>quarians are canonically the closest to humans genetically
you're moronic and wrong. They literally have more in common with Turians than us. They can't even eat human food.
Their biology is based on dextro-aminoacids while everyone else is levo-aminoacids. Idiot. Fricking idiot.
Can Shepard even make speem after the reconstruction? Seems like sexual reproductive function would be an afterthought after reconstructing him to lead a strike force
>Jack
I'd be legit shocked if she could have a kid given the extensive experiments Cerberus did to her body. Miranda is barren, and Asari don't really reproduce, they just clone themselves. The only viable option is Ashley, too bad she's a garbage character.
isn't their planned home on rannoch greatly slowed if you dont make peace between geth and quarians and shepard dies anyway if you don't choose destroy which literally kills the geth
3's endings are formulated to have none of them be good and you have to give up something major
Bold of them to show anything for a -potential- Mass Effect game when they've yet to officially show anything for Dragon Age Dreadwolf, a game that's been in development for nearly a decade and was announced years ago.
They're aware that people have become aware of their track record closing studios, and fear the backlash. That, and Bioware is one of the last studios with name recognition EA has left. Shuttering them would bring them no real benefit.
Bioware fans will buy anything so long as the BW logo is on the box, so yeah. So long as they don't go too crazy on budget, Bioware is still profitable.
>Bioware fans
Those still exist? I mean I love the ME trilogy but they haven't made single good game since and I don't see how this is going to change now considering their and EA's track record.
>Those still exist?
Yes, they still exist. They're the reason Inquisition was a huge success despite the game itself being a mess and despite Bioware themselves wanting it to fail.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>shitquisition
Yeah, I fell for the meme. Haven't bought an EA game since.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>this was released just a few months before Witcher 3
grim
Shame the series dropped the ball so hard about soectres, and basically shepard’s crew being the black ops kill squad for the council. That was far more interesting than the reaper shit.
I hope they bring what was fun gameplay-wise from Anthem, let me jetpack around alien planets and shit, but somehow I doubt the frickstick morons at EA are willing to shell out the money to make a game that is good instead of a game that just looks good with a season pass.
>jetpack
It is still hilarious to me that the only reason it's in the final version of Anthem is that an EA executive saw it, tought it was cool as frick and ordered them to put it in
thank god they stopped there and never made another Mass Effect game after 3
let things cool down a little so people could regain their confidence.
at least they didn't shove something even worse out the door as a shitty attempt to keep the franchise going without owning up to their massive franchise-ending mistake.
>Ignoring how awful the Cerberus shit was >Ignoring how Rannoch took a morally complex premise and reduced it to "robots good organics bad". >Kai Lung
Tuchanka doesn't save the rest of the game.
I was cautiously optimistic because a bunch of people who worked on the original trilogy returned to BioWare to work on the new game, but everything about it seems terrible so far. I have no idea why they're trying to salvage Andromeda by linking it to the OT, why the geth are back if they're presumably using Destroy as the canon ending, why they teased Shepard if he's long dead.
Development started in 2015, was cancelled in 2017 because EA wanted live service elements and there were none. Development was restarted in 2018 with a live service component. The live service elements were canned in 2021 following Anthem's failure so it's a single player only game now.
When the project was cancelled in 2017 a bunch of people left, including the director of the previous DA games. Now the director is a literal troony and the game has nu-God of War combat.
It will probably be so bad that it will finally kill BioWare and ME along with it. I seriously doubt we'll even see gameplay footage of the new ME game.
Teasers were the worst thing Hollywood ever did. They exist to hype consumer homosexuals like you. Its telling you to get hype for the future get hype. have a nice day.
>this ending sucks, it's just 3 colors and full of contradictions to established lore >lmao no, here's the Normandy 2 risking destruction to save your squad mates and a slideshow thanks for the money
>Female Shepherd >Destiny style outfit >Purple in the coat on the box art
This game and Dragon Age 4 will flop and Bioware will FINALLY go out of business. I'm honestly celebrating.
She's Senior narrative director, not the writer. The only way she could pull off something good is if the game has good writers which I seriously doubt it will
The senior narrative director is the one literally in charge of the entire writing department at Bioware, she is the one creating the main points of the story and having final say in any writing decision.
Hell, if you go back and play Mass Effect now you could probably pick out tons of things that would be "problematic" in todays world. Everything is so fricked...
>Thoughts?
Thoughts on what, OP?
generic sci-fi character walks down generic sci-fi hallway, turns, and does nothing
bioware have at least been working on this for 3 years, probably longer, and this is all they have to offer? a shitty cg teaser which teases NOTHING. all the while the company faces financial ruin and even if this game actually enters into proper production we still won't be seeing it until the end of the decade AT LEAST.
tl;dr bioware are fricked, game still in pre-production, probably won't be released
1's gameplay is ass, story is okay
2 is the peak of the franchise, doesn't get better than this
3 is rushed and you've probably heard about the endings, overall mid
i wouldn't worry about andromeda, environments look nice and the gameplay is pretty good, but everything else is genuinely horrific because bioware hired interns from reddit to produce the story
i find it odd that people have constantly put bioware on this pedestal when they are such an average company, they produce nothing spectacular or groundbreaking and people still shill for them
bioware has always been a mid tier wrpg dev, or rather they were until about 2011 when they turned into an EA zombie slopmill. they built a fanbase with higher than average production values for the genre and by playing to the peanut gallery will romance shit.
I didn't know about bioware until i found out about Mass Effect, i was so excited about ME 2 and then they announced they got bought out by EA. It was like striking gold and suddenly a genie turns it into stone.
Yes. Regardless of its problems, I don't think we'll ever see anything like the Mass Effect trilogy again. It's a very special series. There's a reason so many people still cling to it despite the shitshow that was Andromeda.
1's gameplay is ass, story is okay
2 is the peak of the franchise, doesn't get better than this
3 is rushed and you've probably heard about the endings, overall mid
i wouldn't worry about andromeda, environments look nice and the gameplay is pretty good, but everything else is genuinely horrific because bioware hired interns from reddit to produce the story
i find it odd that people have constantly put bioware on this pedestal when they are such an average company, they produce nothing spectacular or groundbreaking and people still shill for them
>1's gameplay is ass
The Legendary Edition improves it a lot.
Yes. I did it recently and Mass effect trilogy is the only game series I finished twice.. it's the best sci-fi saga game we have and will ever get. Star wars of the gaming world... unironically
Frick off, I played the original ME1 on launch while working at Blockbuster. Just because I want to stick my dick in alien ass doesn't mean I'm late to the party. First game will always be my favorite, MAKO a best.
>Female protag >Exaggerated walk cycle >Stops and looks back for no reason at all >Pulls gun out of jacket. Jacket doesn't move, gun just appears in hand
Most people could have whipped up something better than this in blender in a single day.
Absolutely moronic they're marketing this game when it isn't likely to come out until almost 2030. Next gen consoles will be out by then for all we know.
>canonize the "Control" ending from ME3 >Reaper Shep and his army haven't been seen since the end of ME3 >Part of the game takes place in the years immediately following the aftermath of the Reaper invasion in ME3, and deals with the fallout of that >Other part takes in the Andromeda galaxy years after that game, but doesn't require playing it >Plot involves a centuries-spanning project to activate "Galactic Relays" that will allow instantaneous travel between the Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies >Liara acts as the bridge connecting the two storylines
>You are forced to play Female >No Character creation >Paragon, Renegade >Geth are now normal alien species >Liara for the added futa bonuses >Destiny, Cyberpunk, Fortnite, audience >EA and nu-Blizzard in current day
It's a harder NO! tan Andromeda.
I have no desire to play any of their games anymore.
Dragon Age: Origins and Mass Effect 2 were the last ones I really enjoyed, even though I disliked how cartoonishly evil renegade options were in ME2.
Half the ME2 Renegade options stick to making one-liners to mercs you kill.
In ME3 you can let Samara blow her brains out in front of her daughter because you can't be bothered to interrupt.. You can assign inexperienced Biotic students to the front lines as cannon fodder. You can make the Quarians go extinct for the sake of the Geth just to choose to Destroy ending afterward. etc.
>You can make the Quarians go extinct for the sake of the Geth just to choose to Destroy ending afterward. etc
Ironically siding with the Quarians is the renegade option throughout 2 and 3.
Are you not factoring in the karma decisions into this?
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Anonymous
No, I mean literally the dialogue wheel places the geth-centric options on the top right and the quarian-centric ones on the bottom right. In addition, during the Rannoch arc in ME3, the aggressive actions on behalf of the quarians are renegade-coded, good example is during the Geth dreadnought mission where the paragon option is to tell the Admirals to retreat after the dreadnought is disabled, the renegade is to attack.
Furthermore, if Legion survives ME2, Xen suggests disassembling him, where the paragon response is to insist otherwise and an interrupt to stop her from continuing, while the renegade option is to say "Later lols". Lastly, when Legion shows a projection of a geth unit with the Reaper code upgrades (i.e a fully-fledged A.I), the paragon option is to support it, while the renegade one is to discourage it.
The only time this trend is interrupted in ME3 is during the VERY FINAL confrontation on Rannoch, where the paragon option is to "rally the fleet" and the renegade option is to "warn the fleet", which is actually more akin to what a paragon/renegade option should be.
Throughout ME2, the destruction of the heretic station is considered renegade while the rewriting is paragon, choosing Tali over Legion in their loyalty conflict is renegade, etc. etc. etc.
It's pretty clear what the devs were suggesting with these placements.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>choosing Tali over Legion in their loyalty conflict is renegade
To be fair, I think regardless of their place on the wheel, choosing a specific character in a loyalty conflict isn't portrayed as inherently renegade or paragon.
Unless you convince both it's one of the few types of choices where you're simply picking one or the other. Like romance.
I'm real tired of teasing cinematics that don't ultimately show anything about anything. All it tells me is that after all these years they're still at a point where they don't have two minutes of gameplay and character info worth showing. That there was no silver lining to all the hardships of the dev team that EA and upper mismanagement has pushed upon them. That the company that was once a favored staple of western RPGs and innovating storytelling is barely treading water.
Literally thrown together by interns or some lower level employees. No face, generic setting, generic clothing, dark lighting so you can't see much. Someone in marketing forced this to be made
Apparently Twitter hasn't since they keep begging Bioware for this new Mass Effect to be connected to Andromeda in some way and unfortunately those c**ts got what they wanted
>Thoughts?
It's modern day BioWare. That says it all. Also they already try to replace Shepard by femshep everywhere and all we saw of this so far was 1) Liara, because of course they had to bring this c**t 2) this thing who is clearly not masculine.
And it will be connected to Andromeda.
It's not called just Mass Effect, they simply haven't revealed the actual title yet. We don't know much about it, but it's a new game, not a reboot or remake, that will deal with events of the original trilogy and Andromeda and try to tie them together. This is basically impossible to do and it will definitely be shit when it's released.
That is, of course, if BioWare doesn't get axed because of the new Dragon Age which will definitely be awful when it is released.
>after Dreadwolf
I don't think it's coming out ever then, it's about time Bioware gets sent to the EA woodchipper like Westwood, Pandemic and countless other studios.
>fumble ME3 >fumble DA3 even harder
"guys let's just keep making more games in series we have completely fricking fumbled" Bioware like a dude subscribed to his ex on OF bro she is way gone
>writer's favorite character >nostalgia bait for the ME 1-3 players >strong boss b***h Shadow Broker energy >"exploring a new perspective of what humanity means in the galaxy"
>We’ve asked ourselves many of the same questions you’ve asked us over the years!," Gamble says. "What happened to everyone you know and love in the games? Who really died? Who had kids with whom? What does a baby Volus sound like? What about all the galaxies? The endings! What the heck is going on with our Asari scientist-turned-Shadowbroker? What about S— nevermind… you get the idea. And of course, to those questions, there are answers, but you’ll have to wait to hear them." >What the heck is going on with our Asari scientist-turned-Shadowbroker
Ok now I'm worried, if they pull that we'll have to nuke Leafland
Liara is the series pet, like Leliana was. Essentially like a tabletop GMPC. Most games with customisable characters need at least one of those to center the world, but BioWare tends to make them a Mary Sue
If this isn't Shepard, then the N7 branding has no meaning, and no bearing at all.
Remember that one time that everyone was just begging Bioware to play as an N7? Yeah, neither do I. Because that didn't happen. Nobody cares about N7, unless it's Shepard. And if Bioware want to water down the meaning of what an N7 is, to be "inclusive" and more "diverse", it's about as bad as what they did with the Grey Wardens in Dragon Age. Oh, sure. Anyone can be a warden. Nobody cares about any warden other than the DA:O one. Even Alistair.
This has to be the most poisoning notion to a Mass Effect branding thing that Bioware can do. I hope they realize it, but I doubt they do, or ever will. Keep fricking up, Bioware. It's the one thing you're so incredibly good at.
They pulled the whole N7 crap back in Andromeda and we all know how that turned out. It's a horrible marketing tool they keep pushing which will bite them in the ass again. But this is Bioware we're talking about, they NEVER learn from their mistakes
> Sovereign is defeated and Council want to sweep this under the carpet > Maybe send Shepard on the shore leave with his LI and then Cerberus try to contact him/her there? > Noooo, we just made this cool cut-scene!!1
I fricking hate this.
>it makes more sense that Shepard would work with Cerberus if he got randomly approached during shore leave than if Cerberus saved his life
Shep would just shoot the Cerberus agent in the face, the frick are you smoking?
ME1 is boring. 90% of the time is spent traversing empty ass planets in a janky, yet indestructible tank and the other 10% is waiting for your infinite ammo gun to cool down.
ME2 saved the series from irrelevancy, only for ME3 to ruin it on the narrative front.
ME1 was an OK early Xbox360 game.
ME2 BUILT Mass Effect.
ME3 would have not mattered to anyone, if not for it. You can disagree, but you'd be wrong. Case in point: good will amassed by ME2 led to ME3 selling 3 times as much as ME2, meanwhile ME2 didn't sell that much more than ME1, because ME1 just wasn't that big. It's a good game for its time, surpassed quickly by better games, that came soon after. Another ME1 level quality of game, would be viewed like Andromeda.
where did all the Andromeda apologist come from?
I lost interest when they didn't denounce the Andromud and unironically use it in teasers as if anybody gives a shit about it
>hey boss, you know how you said mass effect's gonna be a trilogy? Well we can't really figure out a way to stretch the plot to 3 games. >MAKE A FILLER EPISODE!
That's how the meeting went down.
It baffles me that people still rank ME3 above the other two. It's complete dogshit and the only conclusion I can come to is that it's purely nostalgia goggles, because they played ME3 when they were like 8 years old.
No one has nostalgia for ME3, only for ME2 and it shows. Also I like them all, but rank them 1 > 3 > 2 and I played the trilogy for the first time last year
that armor looks nothing like actual N7 armor and the collar is goofy also N7 should just be a Shepard only thing
not every protag needs to be N7 when there are other ranks besides that they could use
This thing has probably be remade atleast twice already with everyone on the dev team being moved and switched around constantly. I doubt it'll even be able to reach 30 FPS.
>bioware still attempting to act like femshep is the face of ME when the franchise was literally built on maleshep's back
I'm not even referring to the trailer, just general merch and marketing. This is so bizarre, I guess you can explain it seeing that nobody from late 2000s Bioware exists in the company anymore and now it's full of fat dykes and trannies.
>bioware still attempting to act like femshep is the face of ME
I know right ? It's fricking irritating. They can't put both, no. No they have to shove that redhead b***h down our throats, and only her. Hell, she didn't even exist before ME2 and now they try to make people forget Shepard
>bioware still attempting to act like femshep is the face of ME
I know right ? It's fricking irritating. They can't put both, no. No they have to shove that redhead b***h down our throats, and only her. Hell, she didn't even exist before ME2 and now they try to make people forget Shepard
I hate that shit too, but the lame looking woman in the trailer isn't Shepard
I know it's a meme by now but the answer is literally ESG. CDPR is doing the same thing with Cyberpunk in that they're using Female V for literally everything. Ads, trailers, banners, merchandise, social media. They legit scrubbed Male V out of existence even though I'd wager that he's the most picked out of the two just like every other RPG with a male and female option. Remember when Ubisoft made Kassandra canon in AC Odyssey and then data released showing that majority still picked Alexios? Same thing.
They think their male fanbase will just accept it no matter what. They are desperate for growth and they think the female market is more important to pander to than their male base. Also all the blue haired art school losers and diversity hires aren't helping with either...
Yeah, it's a shame Tali and Jack won't be on it while they keep jerking off Liara's wiener
Or maybe it's a blessing, I wonder how they would butcher my favorite characters if they were in
I actually liked her in the first game. Then she was barely in ME2, where her personality radically changed for the worse and she became a mary sue, and that continued with ME3 where she was even worse
>flanderization
I can't see it on Tali, Jack, Garrus etc. Is it just because I like those characters or did Liara really get shafted? But then again, I've noticed that most Liaragays prefer her ME2-3 personality instead of her ME1 self
>next game has best girl >but not Shepard
What's the point? Will we get to cuck Shepard by fricking Liara too? How soulless. The only way this thing was going to succeed was if they brought back Shepard and most of the other squad. It doesn't even matter if the game is shit. People would have bought just for Shepard, now it's a definite failure. Sad.
>tease shepard and the ot in previous videos and images, suggesting it was a sequel to the ot and andromed was forgotten about >lol it was just a joke guys we're going full andromeda here with the tard-looking ayys and it's set after andromeda and everyone is dead, but don't worry our favorite character liara is in 🙂
What's with the motorcycle helmet? And the trailer is just the woman walking. Couldn't they have been more creative? Wonder how long this took them to come up with.
also, when are we gonna get the matrix demo graphics? remember when the unreal 5 matrix demo came out? when are we getting games that look like that? unreal already has a randomized character creator where the devs can make ultra life-like characters with the press of a single button, so what gives?
>N7 Day
Black person, you need to have something to actually be proud of. you've had more misses than hits at this point.
is this the best EA Bioware has to offer?
>pretentious cringe faux-rpg about some weird looking bald dutch guy travelling into space looking for gay aliens to frick in the ass aboard his spaceship
No, it's still a boring slog. Ryder comes off as a complete dweeb and is not protag material, the rest of your crew range from generic at best like Drak to absolutely insufferable dipshits like Liam who is just Sera from Dragon Age but in the form of a black guy.
How much do you like the Mass Effect world? I played it earlier this year and I don't regret it, but I can't say it's a good game.
The game feels like a YA novel. Even the serious moments are broken up by "funny" one-liners and such. The new alien races look unintentionally funny and non-threatening, even the antagonists. Gameplay is fun, but not as good as ME3 imo. Missions are often little more than fetch quests. Companions are a lot worse than in the OT, but some like Drack and Vetra are nice. Peebee is not as ugly as I thought.
Despite all this, I admit it was nice to visit the different planets and meet the aliens. I'm really into the different races in ME and the overall world, so I don't regret playing it. But it's not a very good game.
>Make a Mass Effect spin-off set between ME1 and 2. >Make the protagonist a smuggler working from the grimy streets of Omega in a dingy craft working with a crew of misfits. >Main antagonist is just a crime boss, stakes are personal rather than cosmic.
Ez money
for the sake of the franchise shepard needs fricking put down
there's nothing to gain by bringing them back other than >le fan service
there's nothing more for the character to do, they literally defeated the fricking reapers, anything else is gonna be anticlimactic as shit
People have no trust in Nu-Bioware, and a video that shows a Daft Punk impersonator walking through a featureless hallway doesn't really move the needle.
again, they're advertising a game they have no way of releasing until the end of the decade
bioware are gonna keep shitting out pieces of info every november like your grandmother in the bathroom after thanksgiving - we aren't getting much and none of it is good
It's gonna be so fricking bad.
They're only doing it as nostalgia after Andromeda failed and they're even trying to reuse those cringe andromeda aliens.
I will never forgive Mass Effect 3 turning the based Geth into a race of Pinocchios. They were cool precisely because their group-mind was so different to everything else. What kind of moron would ruin that by making them all into individuals thus no different from everyone else?
Anon there's only like 2 devs left in existence capable of making a good game period. Asking for someone to make a good Mass Effect is an unattainable goal in current year.
there arent really any studios going for the same level of appeal as ME like its mostly space sim shit but I've seen people mention nu Obsidian before which has to be the worst choice
unironically worse than nu Bioware
its gonna be a massive shitshow like we have never seen before. There will be no Male Shepard, only yaas queen slay femoid with a buzzcut sideshave. there will be 3 classes. No MAKO. Pozz galore. ESG score over 9000.
I'll be surprised if Bioware survives long enough to make another Mass Effect game. Based on what I've heard about Dreadwolf's development EA and Bioware have learned goddamn nothing and it's going to be another disaster on the scale on Anthem.
The ONLY piece of copium left to hold onto is that the main reason Dreadwolf is such a shitshow is BioWare are taking every competent dev and putting them on Mass Effect.
>Cerberus will be nazis. Can't have a modern Western game without nazis. >At least one important troony character, probably a crewmate >Said troony weill be a romance option >Said troony will be modelled to have a perfect female body >Actualy females will range from ugly to mid at best >Except that one white chick that you can't romance because she is coalburning with the black guy >A dialogue with 5 different options to stand up for the wonderful values of diversity and inclusion >Random female empowerment character making a debut by emasculating and besting a well-established male character >Cookie-cutter morality checks with no dilemmas at all >Day 1 DLC >Playable 2 weeks after release, because that's how long it takes for them to patch out game-breaking crashes that are revealed on day 1 >requires Origin account >requires constant internet connection >requires a PC that will be considered high-end in 2025 despite the game not looking noticeably better than something from 2015 >cringeworthy fanservice and references to earlier titles instead of competent storytelling
Bioware hasn't made a passable game since Mass Effect 2, and even that's pushing it. They're a studio where anyone of talent or vision has already left, and all that remains are people who seem to have a disdain for the types of games that made the company what it is.
It's weird because I feel like Shepard's story is told, and that I can't imagine them going forward with things in a way that will ever do justice to anyone's choices and established character relationships.
But on the other hand, I think seeing Shep return hand-in-hand with old fan favorites making some bombastic return would be the only fan service that I'd be immediately susceptible to.
No it isn't. It would be weirder to consider Control and Synthesis as anything other than unholy abominations that were blights before the great benevolence of a beautiful and caring God
At least I'll eventually mine. You never will because you're a flaming homosexual who picked Control. Enjoy hell
5 months ago
Anonymous
Idiocy in sticking to salvation dogmas of others aside, you shouldn't be so happy about that, for all you know you'll have to own up for your own sins.
At any rate, I only played the first two games so I'm not bothered, and it's all useless in the end so it's not like it ever mattered.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>it's all useless in the end so it's not like it ever mattered >nihilist attempting to lecture others
oh the irony
5 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not in fact a nihilist. I simply believe that at this time the overarching pursuit is meaningless and isn't what it appears to be.
Certainly a more practical outlook on reality than abdication of responsibility for one's life to egregores (in an abstract sense), theist.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Only ones who abdicate their responsibility for their lives are hedonists and atheists. They wash their hands of morality and care not for the lives of others. Only themselves and the very present. The temporary, the ephemeral. There can be no discipline, no responsibility if one is constantly "in the moment," basking in the mere pleasures of life.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Ah, but salvation is a type of hedonism. Spiritualism, bliss and all that, even discipline can be corrupted, it is all exactly the same, the emotional contents do not matter, the end goal does, all to forget the true, violent nature of reality and let it quietly die off to the side. You types don't typically bother asking why anyone needs to be saved and from what, and from whom.
Atheism don't necessarily stipulate abdication at all, basic sense dictates that a proper atheist is a person who is entirely alone, all choices and acts they can make are their own, if fatalistic. However, indeed it too can be an escapism, albeit instead of a bliss of a hero who pulls through on sheer willpower around for your sake and your submission, some other pointless self-torture, or auto-dissolution attempt, it's rooted in middle of nowhere void. >morality
Moral knowledge is not an obligation to act on it or in specific ways. >care
Such obligation does not exist.
After andromeda i am not hyped at all, not to mention with all the PC bullshit irl bleeding into games its bound to pander to the 1%. Also its EA all they care about is money. I 100% see this as ME2.0+1.0 type shit, they are gonna bring shepard back from the dead agaion to fight ancient evil cause normal races that survived the reaper wars cant fend for themselves anymore.
after mass effect 3 and andromeda you think they'll try to make a good game this time? lmao
3 is good though, it only has a bad ending and it shits over a couple of choices but it is still a great gane
"No!"
1 was great overall
2 had better gameplay but took the story in a shit direction for the most part
3 just frick the story completely.
2 and 3 have so many great moments and scenes but the overall story arch is so bad that is ruins the experience.
After ME3 and Andromeda and how 99% of games are in dogshit and propaganda in general for the last 15 years it is impossible for this game to be good. Impossible.
>3 just fricks up the story completely
that was 2 idiot
ME2 was more like a really shitty side-adventure that made no real sense. It was ME3 that really obliterated the lore.
3 has by far the best DLC
Lair of the Shadow Broker is in Mass Effect 2.
>Adept/Vanguard/Sentinel Shepard who just beat up an Asari via Biotic powers... suddenly gets biotically cutscene-raped by her
So that is the so-called "best DLC", huh?
they could've had unique cutscenes for every class or class grouping so shit like this wouldn't happen.
bioware are mid
and to add to that, they constantly preach about how your choices matter, but in practice they show nothing really matters - everything is the same regardless of what you choose
yeah 3 is still very solid and i like it, its sad that the ending ruined the overall view of the rest of the non-ending parts forever
3 did so many things right. The gameplay is by far the best in the series, the character writing is very good for the returning characters (new characters I have mixed feelings on), the story is pretty good until Rannoch, then takes a nosedive and never recovers. On the other hand there's stuff like Kai Leng and the ending which are just irredeemable trash.
It could have been great.
MEHEM/JAM+CEM fixes this entirely. It actually flows way better narratively, too.
Ending is so bad it retroactively ruins whole series. If they are capable of pulling something like rgb ending (whole 3 plot is completely moronic btw, but still pale in the face of ending) with a straight face you can betcha they will pull it again. Thus it is impossible to immerse onself into any of their stories ever agan because no matter how good it would be it would always can be resolved in a same completely nonsensical send-off manner.
2 ruined the story in the first place
3 didn't had much to work with after that
2 didn't have a story and couldn't ruin anything as result.
3 is the one that took a massive dump over everything established so far and expects you to just take it.
>3 is the one that took a massive dump over everything established so far and expects you to just take it.
you mean 2
No I explicitly mean ME3. ME2 only ruined gameplay.
>Ending is so bad it retroactively ruins whole series
As someone who played the trilogy for the first time with the LE, it wasn't bad enough to ruin anything, just underwhelming. At least considering the Extended Cut Destroy High EMS ending. I just imagine Shep reuniting with the crew after the rubble scene.
With that said, frick the Starchild and the whole pick your ending aspect of it, the ending should have been determined by your choices during the games. I understand people who played ME3 when it came out had a significantly worse experience.
>i just imagine a better ending, that makes the actual ending less shit
Is this a joke?
No. The EC fleshes out the ending and adds a scene where Shepard is seen breathing under a pile of rubble. Your crew is safe. That's where the game ends and what happens after that is up to interpretation. The ending still kinda sucks, but it does make things open ended unlike the pre-EC end where Shepard died.
Seems pretty reasonable to assume that after that you end up reuniting with your crew.
And the only way to get that ending is to play multiplayer
In the original yes, LE doesn't have multiplayer and you can still get it
>it retroactively ruins whole series
I really don't understand this argument at all.
The relays are canonically fine, they reduced the amount of damage in the EC to emphasize this. All your decisions still happened. If you don't want to kill EDI/geth then Control is still a great option that allows Shepard to live. The catalyst is moronic but that's a problem that is confined to one room in the game. The galaxy is perfectly fine. The ending is shit but saying it retroactively damages anything is moronic.
You don't have to understand it, it happened.
3 is terrible, and the ending shielded the rest of the game from criticism like a feces eclipse
I played it on launch, I even preordered it. Loved mass effect 1 and really liked mass effect 2.
You are 100% wrong, it was shit and you are moronic.
>pre-order Black folk think his opinion matters
>3 is good though
i fricking hate this place so god damn much
Andromeda has good gameplay. It's a game.
>Andromeda has good gameplay
I disagree. Squad mechanics essentially don't exist now as you cannot customize your squad members like in 3 nor really issue orders. Jetpack is fine. The profile system was extraordinary fricking gay. Not only that but the profiles were also unnecessary as you could just select three powers and you would be optimized for any enemy in the game therefore rendering the system pointless. The lack of classes makes roleplaying worse. The enemy encounter design was mid. On the hardest difficulty the game was still piss easy. The vehicle controls were fine. I'm not really sure anon what did you think was good here?
>hardest difficulty the game was still piss easy.
confirmed for never played the game
nta but i beat it twice on the hardest difficulty and he's right about that
Andromeda was good
Describe why Andromeda was a bad game without bringing up the "wokies"
It's literally what if Ubisoft made a Mass Effect game.
An unpolished, creatively bankrupt open world game with nothing but a checklist of activities to complete.
The dialogue choices are a farce because not a single choice has any real consequence, and in fact there's only one ending.
Being able to mix all classes, and effecitvely making it so there's no classes at all, means there's no counters for you, in fact, I remember a specific build that countered literally every single enemy of the game, making.
This means you can solo any enemy and squad mates are completely pointless since you won't need their powers.
>shitty story
>annoying companions
>awful antagonists
>angara suck
>bad mission design
>boring fetch quests everywhere
>no quarians, volus, elcor, drell or hanar
>gameplay worse than me3
>long load times
Don't forget they literally do the collectors plot twist... again.
>the geth made a super mass relay by sticking three relays together
>they had intended to colonize a new galaxy despite the fact that they're fricking computer programs who are quite happy to just hang out in servers on Rannoch forever
>the Council races made their own plan to colonize a new galaxy which cost an unbelievable amount of money despite there being zero direct benefit to anyone left in the Milky Way
>this project involves creating several AI and interfacing them with people's minds, the first of which is incredibly fricking illegal and the second of which is seen as an unfathomably moronic move
>they chose a human to be the leader and public face of this project despite this taking place prior to ME1 when humans being a politically unimportant species that is disliked by many, many aliens
>they also invited the fricking krogan, seen only as savage brutes, on the gamble that AI could somehow cure the genophage during the trip, which if it worked would mean a repeat of the rebellions as the krogan flood every world with sheer numbers
>the krogan, who need to breed constantly to not go extinct, allowed an entire clan to frick off with all their females, except you meet members of that clan in ME2 so some of them stayed behind I guess?
>they also brought the quarians along, there are only several million quarians in existence, it took a couple million humans to populate their ark, so that implies that a huge percentage of the highly collectivist and insular species obsessed with reconquering their homeworld instead of settling somewhere else to the point that they developed Space AIDS as a result all agreed to completely abandon their people and their homeworld for the complete and total unknown
And that's just the premise, it gets way worse once the actual game starts.
That's the gayest thing I've ever seen. Two space orcs having a slap fight? The "winner" Krogan even has a lisp.
It literally wasn’t built well
I honestly don't think it's the horrendous piece of shit people make it out to be (at least not after a year or two of patches). But I do think it feels like Diet version of all the original games.
Less memorable squadmates, less interesting villain, less interesting hubs in favor of big empty worlds to drive around in. Hell, it's a whole new galaxy meant to be about discovering the unknown and making contact with new alien worlds, and they remove more alien races than they add in.
The mini-jetpack's kind of fun though.
No
After Andromeda 3 comes off as a masterpiece. The ending still makes me incredibly angry but Andromeda really is that bad.
fpbp
people defending andromeda are fricked in the head
>pooling 3 with Andromeduh
Frick off. Not everyone was manipulated into thinking it was bad like your basic, simple ass was. 3 has the best gameplay, without question, of the 3 and I even dare to say the best of the 3 simply because it actually deals with the Reapers and not just the mystery around them or killing off their lackies while they sleep.
Fpbp, Bungie/Bioware had people retire towards the end and they will NEVER have the skill required to make new kino games.
Dat hip sway.
I'm trans
hi trans. im dad
It's hard to be optimistic after Mass Effect 3's ending, I haven't even played Andromeda.
I really hope it'll be good though.
ME3 was doomed from the start because of ME2 being practically a spin-off to main series and ignored or retconned most of ME1 events.
It would need atleast 1 more game but they wanted to close the whole thing in trilogy so they've just pulled McGuffin and while most of 3 story is fine, after Rannoch arc it just drops hard and ending making it even worse.
It's just wasted potential, the same thing goes for Andromeda so I'm curious how they'll retcon both 3 and Andromeda.
>ME2 being practically a spin-off
I never understood why they made it like this. Wasn't Mass Effect planned as a trilogy from the start? Why would you effectively waste one third of your series on a barely related tangent like the Collectors? ME2 is a great game but its main story is a total failure.
EA.
Mass Effect 2 was going to be the end/continuation of the Reapers, but EA got heavily involved chasing after the craze of Gears of War. A lot of series suffered the same fate in the same time span.
what does the N in N7 stand for?
Neighbour
the amount of letters in the word Black folk
No survivors
It is a specialty code for "special forces"
N is the special forces designation of the Alliance military. 7 is the highest capability.
Black folk
Number.
>EA bioware
>game wont release for years
>post me3 and andromeda
Anyone excited for this deserves the shafting EA will inevitably give them
>bioware
That character design screams style over substance
>style
Andromeda couldn't even get that right.
>cyberpunk jacket
lmao this is going to be soulless female/pajeet developed garbage
>female/pajeet developed garbage
>studio still mismanaged by straight white men
lol cope
>>>>
lmao
Jews are white you morons
Jews are white except when they aren't.
Tali is my israeli girlfriend.
No they aren't you moron. Go up to a israelite and ask how they feel about being white. They'll show a look of disgust and most likely immediately say they're israeli.
Jews. You mean israelites
That’s right, white “people”.
it's gay and lame
they put a chick in it?
looks fricking terrible, Bioware has been dead for a long time
>geth
>angara
>andromeda
>muh liara
>that shitty cyberpunk-looking jacket
it's so fricking over
>Clothed geth
What the frick
Fricking destiny
Shepard gave them sentience so they became a lot more individualistic. They wear clothes just to style themselves.
Stop glooming and dooming and incelooming, please.
where did you get this from
Released on N7 day
>still married to the trash garbage two-barrel gun design
I like the collapsing rifles and shit, but the fact that we crossed the black gap between galaxies only to find that the aliens in Andromeda ALSO use two-barrel gun designs was the fricking dumbest shit.
If they've done a big timeskip and Liara is the only squadmate returning from the original trilogy (maybe Wrex and Legion if you've very lucky) then the game is guaranteed fricking dead on arrival. If Shepard is dead as well then EA may as well just close the studio right now because absolutely nobody will give a single frick about a new protagonist and cast of characters, Bioware has exactly zero goodwill with their audience after years of repeated frickups and bringing back the original beloved cast is the only way to get anyone's interest.
Of course if they bring back the original cast and then do an Andromeda-tier frickup with them the backlash will be even worse than if they went with new characters to the point where it may actually kill the studio, but it's still their only realistic option at this point.
>If they've done a big timeskip and Liara is the only squadmate returning from the original trilogy (maybe Wrex and Legion if you've very lucky) then the game is guaranteed fricking dead on arrival. If Shepard is dead as well then EA may as well just close the studio right now because absolutely nobody will give a single frick about a new protagonist and cast of characters
Exactly this. It's so obvious a game killer I'm convinced that's exactly what they'll do. Bioware has shown time and time again they are incapable of making intelligent business decisions.
I'm really confused about this game. On previous N7 Days they released material that hinted at Shepard being alive. One image had a date that was two or three years after ME3. So people assumed the game was going to be a sequel to the OT, which made sense considering Andromeda was a colossal failure.
But now we have confirmation that the angara are in, and the outfit of the N7 agent in the teaser seems more futuristic than in the original games. So naturally almost everyone should be dead, including Shepard. I thought BioWare would be smart and erase Andromeda out of existence, but it seems like they're actually trying to tie it with the OT. I don't know what the frick is going on.
>I thought BioWare would be smart
You can replace that by
>I thought EA would force them to
if you want
Anthem's development being a freewheeling nonstop disaster showed that EA is remarkably hands-off when they shouldn't be (a studio has absolutely no idea how to make a game work and is floundering badly) and very hands-on when they shouldn't be (aggressively pushing extreme monetisation).
>Wanting a corpse puppet show for no other purpose than nostalgia-wank
>Pretending Shepard is some linchpin of the series instead of literally the exact same brand of self-insert as every other BioWare game whose role could be filled by any other character.
Yaaaaas sisters.
Wasn’t Conrad Verner’s sister and Zaeed’s son such quirky and fun cameos in Andromeda that totally made sense?
I can’t wait for Shepard to be resurrected AGAIN so he can say “I should go” again.
This shit is such a cancerous Normie mindset and it infuriates me that Nu-BioWare are moronic enough to do exactly that.
a corpse puppet show for no other purpose than nostalgia-wank
It has nothing to do with wanting. It'a what's necessary to make the next game anything other than a colossal failure. Bioware put themselves in this position by fricking up everything else and it'a the only way anyone is going to buy this thing. Bioware literally needs nostalgia for this to actually make money.
Yep. It is the only olive branch they have left. Sort of like with Ubisoft and Japan AC. But Ubisoft royally mucked that opportunity up.
>Liara is the only squadmate returning from the original trilogy
also Grunt and maaaaaybe Wrex, Legion seems a bit unlikely imo
Why the hell are there geth anyway? Shouldn't they be all dead, assuming they're following the Destroy ending of course
assuming destroy is canon or if they somehow pull off an "all endings are canon" like deus ex, i'd say the quarians managed to repair them and bring them back to life, its a possibility
They are retconning destroy so it didn't kill the geth and EDI.
For the best honestly, destroy also destroying geth and EDI on top of the reapers was something that Mac the hack Walters pulled out of his ass at the last moment with no previous narrative build up during the ending otherwise everyone would have just picked destroy and not bothered with the other endings because of how superior it is.
if they are going with a post Andromeda storyline at least give us playable Aliens. Although Bioware isn't going to get shut down within the next 3 years
>I HURT MYSELF TODAY
Funny they got more inspired suits in space games than cyberpunk
Bruh.
>femShep
Already starting on the wrong foot. Shows they have no idea who their players are. You can expect the usual ESG slop from thereon.
>femShep
I read it was set after Andromeda, you can even see an angaran in this pic
Seems like the Shepard teasing was just to frick with us, and all the original trilogy companions are dead except for the writer's pet
Also bringing Andromeda shit into this is the worst possible decision they could have made, what a bunch of morons
This the game is moronic without the original companions would be cool to see if Garrus became a Primarch or a new Cerberus being run by big ass women
>meanwhile Jacob's followed in his father's footsteps and started a cargo cult of his own
He died Anon he also he abandoned his son
Based
>Ashley genocides all the alien races
Based.
Issue with the canonical gender?
so much assblasting over blondeshep
>destroy is canon but all the consequences of it didn't happen
Lame.
Couldn't it be control or did Andromeda confirm the Reapers are no more or something?
The first teaser showed Liara walking in a dead Reaper. I guess it could be a random one that got killed during the war, but still.
The only thing MEA said about the Reapers is that the whole Andromeda Initiative was funded by a mysterious benefactor who knew of the Reapers threat before it was public knowledge
So... Cerberus?
It's never revealed, but maybe so.
Also this Andromeda talk reminded me of how you land on a lush planet at the very end and establish the human capital, but can't even leave your ship, only look at it from the windows. That really pissed me off.
They re gonna do the lazy all are canon so you have shepard reaper fleet fricking around in one galaxy place , synthetics and post mass explosion
>woman main
pass, got no desire to play a walmart cashier character wearing a second skin boob armor and watching her running prostitute animation for the whole game voiced by a random hoe voice actor pretending to be tough
>A veganaAAAAAAAA
>AAAAAAAAAAAAGH A VAGIIIIINAAAAAAA
>AAAAAAA VAGIIIIINAAAAAAAAAAARRGGGGHHH
This is what you sound like.
i dont care what i sound like not gonna buy this shitty Woke Effect game, they can have the female playerbase if they want
>TITTITIT TITITITIT TIIIIIIIIITTTTSSSSSS
> SEEEEEEXXXXXXX!
nice try incel chud
maybe it would sting more if it wasn't a magpie squawk
Well if you cant get it im real life it makes sense your generation need romance in every frickingthing
>projecting his virginity onto me
o I am laffin
Any male who wants a female protagonist is a troony or a future troony. No exceptions.
>woman main
They're going to let you choose your sex like in other game you dumb triggered moron
So what, it's cool to unironically be a virgin now? What's your point? And how many wieners have you sucked lately?
you have to let go
i let go shortly after finishing me 3
what's taking you this long ?
I'll only let go when Shep and Tali build their house on Rannoch and get their deserved happy ending
>childless couple
>happy ending
lol
>he doesn't know
About what, your schizophrenic headcanon? Yes, I am not aware of it fortunately.
>he actually, genuinely, doesn't know
>I'm actually, genuinely, moronic.
Only crappy couples need childs to stay afloat
>stay afloat
What? I was talking about true happiness.
>this homie knowing anything about true happiness
your existence is synonymous to a roasties. lol.
You don't have to be mad, discord sissy.
>sci-fi setting built on space magic
>quarians are canonically the closest to humans genetically
>t-they can't have kids
lol
>they can't have kids
Correct.
their DNA is literally allergic to each other.
Quarians have fricked up immune systems that, even with Rannoch back, will take a generation to fix.
You will not be raw dogging the purple hips.
isnt that a great reason to nut inside ur quarian gf since theres no risk of pregnancy
you can only do it once, then she dies.
btw pregnancy is a good thing
>quarians are canonically the closest to humans genetically
you're moronic and wrong. They literally have more in common with Turians than us. They can't even eat human food.
Their biology is based on dextro-aminoacids while everyone else is levo-aminoacids. Idiot. Fricking idiot.
Can Shepard even make speem after the reconstruction? Seems like sexual reproductive function would be an afterthought after reconstructing him to lead a strike force
Of course he can. Everything after ME1 is not canon.
I'm glad we agree that the only happy endings are with Ashley and Jack.
>b-but muh blue alien poon
Not your genetic baby.
>Jack
I'd be legit shocked if she could have a kid given the extensive experiments Cerberus did to her body. Miranda is barren, and Asari don't really reproduce, they just clone themselves. The only viable option is Ashley, too bad she's a garbage character.
Life finds a way
isn't their planned home on rannoch greatly slowed if you dont make peace between geth and quarians and shepard dies anyway if you don't choose destroy which literally kills the geth
3's endings are formulated to have none of them be good and you have to give up something major
Bold of them to show anything for a -potential- Mass Effect game when they've yet to officially show anything for Dragon Age Dreadwolf, a game that's been in development for nearly a decade and was announced years ago.
Why wont EA just close the studio already? It's very unlike them.
They're aware that people have become aware of their track record closing studios, and fear the backlash. That, and Bioware is one of the last studios with name recognition EA has left. Shuttering them would bring them no real benefit.
Keeping them around does?
Bioware fans will buy anything so long as the BW logo is on the box, so yeah. So long as they don't go too crazy on budget, Bioware is still profitable.
>Bioware fans
Those still exist? I mean I love the ME trilogy but they haven't made single good game since and I don't see how this is going to change now considering their and EA's track record.
>Those still exist?
Yes, they still exist. They're the reason Inquisition was a huge success despite the game itself being a mess and despite Bioware themselves wanting it to fail.
>shitquisition
Yeah, I fell for the meme. Haven't bought an EA game since.
>this was released just a few months before Witcher 3
grim
too big of a name to bury in the backyard
clearly "people" still think they can make a good game somehow ?
they're wrong
EA is insanely moronic. I have no idea why Mass Effect 1-3 and Dragon Age Origins + 2 aren't on there either
Have there been any news on that Casey Hudson's new anti-EA sci-fi video game?
I hope he teams up with Mac Walters for the ultimate dumpster fire combo.
Shame the series dropped the ball so hard about soectres, and basically shepard’s crew being the black ops kill squad for the council. That was far more interesting than the reaper shit.
>The "people" making this N7 design thought it looked cool.
I'm so tired of this decade.
>Black person femoid MC
I'll pass.
BioWare hasn't made any bad games.
LMAO, Inquisition was totally decent and Trespasser was fricking great have a nice day
I hope they bring what was fun gameplay-wise from Anthem, let me jetpack around alien planets and shit, but somehow I doubt the frickstick morons at EA are willing to shell out the money to make a game that is good instead of a game that just looks good with a season pass.
You wait, it's gonna be monetized to shit.
>jetpack
It is still hilarious to me that the only reason it's in the final version of Anthem is that an EA executive saw it, tought it was cool as frick and ordered them to put it in
My thoughts is
>after glorious ME1
>decent ME2
>Absolute garbage ME3
The fire is gone and they should let franchise die
thank god they stopped there and never made another Mass Effect game after 3
let things cool down a little so people could regain their confidence.
at least they didn't shove something even worse out the door as a shitty attempt to keep the franchise going without owning up to their massive franchise-ending mistake.
thank god that didn't happen.
ME2 is garbage and ME3 is good until the ending
>Ignoring how awful the Cerberus shit was
>Ignoring how Rannoch took a morally complex premise and reduced it to "robots good organics bad".
>Kai Lung
Tuchanka doesn't save the rest of the game.
well i never said its flawless, even despite these things its still good.
It also has arguably the weakest main cast in the series.
>No Krogan teammate
>The ME2 crew almost entirely abandoned
Lame
true
Place your bets gentlemen, she a Black person isn't she?
Worse, a batarian
>worse
I was cautiously optimistic because a bunch of people who worked on the original trilogy returned to BioWare to work on the new game, but everything about it seems terrible so far. I have no idea why they're trying to salvage Andromeda by linking it to the OT, why the geth are back if they're presumably using Destroy as the canon ending, why they teased Shepard if he's long dead.
Space longcoat
how long have they been working on the new dragon age ? inquisition came out in 2014 ,arent there 2 bioware teams ?
Development started in 2015, was cancelled in 2017 because EA wanted live service elements and there were none. Development was restarted in 2018 with a live service component. The live service elements were canned in 2021 following Anthem's failure so it's a single player only game now.
When the project was cancelled in 2017 a bunch of people left, including the director of the previous DA games. Now the director is a literal troony and the game has nu-God of War combat.
It will probably be so bad that it will finally kill BioWare and ME along with it. I seriously doubt we'll even see gameplay footage of the new ME game.
I tought the nugod of war combat was from the live service version?
Also i have more faith in a literal troony than in the original DA director tbdesu
Teasers were the worst thing Hollywood ever did. They exist to hype consumer homosexuals like you. Its telling you to get hype for the future get hype. have a nice day.
May this be the final nail in Bioware's coffin.
Whats there to think about? Its a nothing burger teaser.
You know bioware worked overtime for this single trailer
All of their blue-haired artists did it in between breaks with their emotional support wombats and therapy sessions.
>this ending sucks, it's just 3 colors and full of contradictions to established lore
>lmao no, here's the Normandy 2 risking destruction to save your squad mates and a slideshow thanks for the money
>Female Shepherd
>Destiny style outfit
>Purple in the coat on the box art
This game and Dragon Age 4 will flop and Bioware will FINALLY go out of business. I'm honestly celebrating.
>We want Arknights audience
can they just stop putting women on the cover and as the main protag? as a massive homosexual i hate women and no longer feel represented.
>mass effect with millenial writing and esg propaganda
No, thanks.
That is every Mass Effect though
Only ME with millennial writing is Andromeda.
You can tell because it's as if a Marvel movie writer made it.
It’s being written by NuDeus Ex writer though
thats the only thing giving me a slight shimmer of hope it won't be as bad as Andromeda but eh
She's Senior narrative director, not the writer. The only way she could pull off something good is if the game has good writers which I seriously doubt it will
The senior narrative director is the one literally in charge of the entire writing department at Bioware, she is the one creating the main points of the story and having final say in any writing decision.
So just Mass Effect?
Hell, if you go back and play Mass Effect now you could probably pick out tons of things that would be "problematic" in todays world. Everything is so fricked...
Samara's outfit comes to mind. Also pic related
To think that this b***h is supposed to be as strong and competent as Shepard, who is a frickin powerhouse in comparison...
This has never been a valid argument. All of them have bionics.
Soldier doesn't
great more space homosexualry
>Thoughts?
Thoughts on what, OP?
generic sci-fi character walks down generic sci-fi hallway, turns, and does nothing
bioware have at least been working on this for 3 years, probably longer, and this is all they have to offer? a shitty cg teaser which teases NOTHING. all the while the company faces financial ruin and even if this game actually enters into proper production we still won't be seeing it until the end of the decade AT LEAST.
tl;dr bioware are fricked, game still in pre-production, probably won't be released
>release date will be as early as 2029
Should I play the first trilogy?
1's gameplay is ass, story is okay
2 is the peak of the franchise, doesn't get better than this
3 is rushed and you've probably heard about the endings, overall mid
i wouldn't worry about andromeda, environments look nice and the gameplay is pretty good, but everything else is genuinely horrific because bioware hired interns from reddit to produce the story
i find it odd that people have constantly put bioware on this pedestal when they are such an average company, they produce nothing spectacular or groundbreaking and people still shill for them
bioware has always been a mid tier wrpg dev, or rather they were until about 2011 when they turned into an EA zombie slopmill. they built a fanbase with higher than average production values for the genre and by playing to the peanut gallery will romance shit.
I didn't know about bioware until i found out about Mass Effect, i was so excited about ME 2 and then they announced they got bought out by EA. It was like striking gold and suddenly a genie turns it into stone.
>2 is the peak of the franchise
Found the pew pew moron
story-wise you moron, everybody knows bioware gutted me2 of all the complex elements to turn it into a boring cover shooter
Yes. Regardless of its problems, I don't think we'll ever see anything like the Mass Effect trilogy again. It's a very special series. There's a reason so many people still cling to it despite the shitshow that was Andromeda.
>1's gameplay is ass
The Legendary Edition improves it a lot.
Yes. I did it recently and Mass effect trilogy is the only game series I finished twice.. it's the best sci-fi saga game we have and will ever get. Star wars of the gaming world... unironically
I'm not touching it until it's confirmed there's a gay male Turian, Krogan, or Volus romance option.
see what I mean
Frick off, I played the original ME1 on launch while working at Blockbuster. Just because I want to stick my dick in alien ass doesn't mean I'm late to the party. First game will always be my favorite, MAKO a best.
homosexuals need to go back to plebbit. You guys really ruin every place you infest.
Based
We've had to deal with TaliBlacks and Liaragays for too long, it's time we had our turn with the alien romance
>homosexual
>based
No I don't think so.
>coming into modern bioware threads
>getting upset at homosexualry within them
Bioware is dead and i have no intention of even watching that trailer
>Female protag
>Exaggerated walk cycle
>Stops and looks back for no reason at all
>Pulls gun out of jacket. Jacket doesn't move, gun just appears in hand
Most people could have whipped up something better than this in blender in a single day.
I don't want a new ME unless they make me play as a Volus on a quest to become the richest motherfricker in the galaxy
No blasto, no buy
>not sheploo
One fricking job bioware.
If there hadn't been a N7 on the jacket, I would have assumed this was a Warlock from Destiny.
Also:
>Marketing pushes the female MC hard
>Everyone just plays as the male anyway
>current day AAA western developer
It's going to be shit
Absolutely moronic they're marketing this game when it isn't likely to come out until almost 2030. Next gen consoles will be out by then for all we know.
Has it really been over 5 years now?
>canonize the "Control" ending from ME3
>Reaper Shep and his army haven't been seen since the end of ME3
>Part of the game takes place in the years immediately following the aftermath of the Reaper invasion in ME3, and deals with the fallout of that
>Other part takes in the Andromeda galaxy years after that game, but doesn't require playing it
>Plot involves a centuries-spanning project to activate "Galactic Relays" that will allow instantaneous travel between the Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies
>Liara acts as the bridge connecting the two storylines
Feel free to use that, Bioware
>You are forced to play Female
>No Character creation
>Paragon, Renegade
>Geth are now normal alien species
>Liara for the added futa bonuses
>Destiny, Cyberpunk, Fortnite, audience
>EA and nu-Blizzard in current day
It's a harder NO! tan Andromeda.
Wow you're moronic
>Destiny
if only
I have no desire to play any of their games anymore.
Dragon Age: Origins and Mass Effect 2 were the last ones I really enjoyed, even though I disliked how cartoonishly evil renegade options were in ME2.
ME2 Renegade still had a few gems. ME3 is where it treads more on the idea of being a desperately murderous butthole for the sake of it.
>ME3 is where it treads more on the idea of being a desperately murderous butthole for the sake of it.
ME2**
Half the ME2 Renegade options stick to making one-liners to mercs you kill.
In ME3 you can let Samara blow her brains out in front of her daughter because you can't be bothered to interrupt.. You can assign inexperienced Biotic students to the front lines as cannon fodder. You can make the Quarians go extinct for the sake of the Geth just to choose to Destroy ending afterward. etc.
>You can make the Quarians go extinct for the sake of the Geth just to choose to Destroy ending afterward. etc
Ironically siding with the Quarians is the renegade option throughout 2 and 3.
Are you not factoring in the karma decisions into this?
No, I mean literally the dialogue wheel places the geth-centric options on the top right and the quarian-centric ones on the bottom right. In addition, during the Rannoch arc in ME3, the aggressive actions on behalf of the quarians are renegade-coded, good example is during the Geth dreadnought mission where the paragon option is to tell the Admirals to retreat after the dreadnought is disabled, the renegade is to attack.
Furthermore, if Legion survives ME2, Xen suggests disassembling him, where the paragon response is to insist otherwise and an interrupt to stop her from continuing, while the renegade option is to say "Later lols". Lastly, when Legion shows a projection of a geth unit with the Reaper code upgrades (i.e a fully-fledged A.I), the paragon option is to support it, while the renegade one is to discourage it.
The only time this trend is interrupted in ME3 is during the VERY FINAL confrontation on Rannoch, where the paragon option is to "rally the fleet" and the renegade option is to "warn the fleet", which is actually more akin to what a paragon/renegade option should be.
Throughout ME2, the destruction of the heretic station is considered renegade while the rewriting is paragon, choosing Tali over Legion in their loyalty conflict is renegade, etc. etc. etc.
It's pretty clear what the devs were suggesting with these placements.
>choosing Tali over Legion in their loyalty conflict is renegade
To be fair, I think regardless of their place on the wheel, choosing a specific character in a loyalty conflict isn't portrayed as inherently renegade or paragon.
Unless you convince both it's one of the few types of choices where you're simply picking one or the other. Like romance.
"The Council can kiss my ass. A lot of people want my help lately, what makes you special?"
A podcast that I used to listen to used that line as the opening for an episode, and I laughed my ass off.
>bioware
aren't they dead yet?
Nah, they got some life support from the ME: Legendary Edition a few years ago.
Almost none
I'm real tired of teasing cinematics that don't ultimately show anything about anything. All it tells me is that after all these years they're still at a point where they don't have two minutes of gameplay and character info worth showing. That there was no silver lining to all the hardships of the dev team that EA and upper mismanagement has pushed upon them. That the company that was once a favored staple of western RPGs and innovating storytelling is barely treading water.
Nice coat though
Literally thrown together by interns or some lower level employees. No face, generic setting, generic clothing, dark lighting so you can't see much. Someone in marketing forced this to be made
This, I've seen cooler videos made by coomers in SFM.
Looks cheap and low quality
>N7 trench coat
I am skeptical.
Shepherd is dead. Mass Effect is dead. The story is concluded.
Its sad but true. Everyone needs to accept that things they loved as a kid have been murdered on the altar of ESG and move on to new things.
So.. have people forgotten about Andromeda? How can someone possibly be hyped for this trash
Apparently Twitter hasn't since they keep begging Bioware for this new Mass Effect to be connected to Andromeda in some way and unfortunately those c**ts got what they wanted
It can't be any worse than Andromeda r-right?
looks like they want to sell this as a fortnite skin
>Thoughts?
It's modern day BioWare. That says it all. Also they already try to replace Shepard by femshep everywhere and all we saw of this so far was 1) Liara, because of course they had to bring this c**t 2) this thing who is clearly not masculine.
And it will be connected to Andromeda.
Needless to say it smells like shit already
I think it's weird that big studios are still shilling female protags
>proof of concept teaser trailer
>BUY THE PRINT FROM OUR STORE
My thoughts are its cancer
Doesn't feel like Mass Effect, I'd expect to see that outfit in a generic cyberpunk game.
Is this a sequel, reboot, or a remake? I honestly can't tell anymore
>Game
>Game 2
>Game 3
>Game: subtitle
>Game
It's not called just Mass Effect, they simply haven't revealed the actual title yet. We don't know much about it, but it's a new game, not a reboot or remake, that will deal with events of the original trilogy and Andromeda and try to tie them together. This is basically impossible to do and it will definitely be shit when it's released.
That is, of course, if BioWare doesn't get axed because of the new Dragon Age which will definitely be awful when it is released.
It's only coming out after Dreadwolf, and we all know how that's going.
>after Dreadwolf
I don't think it's coming out ever then, it's about time Bioware gets sent to the EA woodchipper like Westwood, Pandemic and countless other studios.
That game doesn’t deserve a release
>fumble ME3
>fumble DA3 even harder
"guys let's just keep making more games in series we have completely fricking fumbled" Bioware like a dude subscribed to his ex on OF bro she is way gone
>fumble
I haven't found anything to be "bussin" since 2005. I am a humble scavenger who knows value from magnetized detritus.
>modern bioware
>female lead
All I know is that its going to be shit
>female lead
It's an RPG, it's going to have a character creator.
Yes but in the original Trilogy the primary character in the marketing was male shep.
The protagonist is Liara.
I wouldn't be surprised at all.
>writer's favorite character
>nostalgia bait for the ME 1-3 players
>strong boss b***h Shadow Broker energy
>"exploring a new perspective of what humanity means in the galaxy"
>We’ve asked ourselves many of the same questions you’ve asked us over the years!," Gamble says. "What happened to everyone you know and love in the games? Who really died? Who had kids with whom? What does a baby Volus sound like? What about all the galaxies? The endings! What the heck is going on with our Asari scientist-turned-Shadowbroker? What about S— nevermind… you get the idea. And of course, to those questions, there are answers, but you’ll have to wait to hear them."
>What the heck is going on with our Asari scientist-turned-Shadowbroker
Ok now I'm worried, if they pull that we'll have to nuke Leafland
Liara is the series pet, like Leliana was. Essentially like a tabletop GMPC. Most games with customisable characters need at least one of those to center the world, but BioWare tends to make them a Mary Sue
moron alert! moron alert!
Mass Effect protag is Sheploo. Female protag is an aberration.
It's been 13 years since BioWare last made a good game.
If this isn't Shepard, then the N7 branding has no meaning, and no bearing at all.
Remember that one time that everyone was just begging Bioware to play as an N7? Yeah, neither do I. Because that didn't happen. Nobody cares about N7, unless it's Shepard. And if Bioware want to water down the meaning of what an N7 is, to be "inclusive" and more "diverse", it's about as bad as what they did with the Grey Wardens in Dragon Age. Oh, sure. Anyone can be a warden. Nobody cares about any warden other than the DA:O one. Even Alistair.
This has to be the most poisoning notion to a Mass Effect branding thing that Bioware can do. I hope they realize it, but I doubt they do, or ever will. Keep fricking up, Bioware. It's the one thing you're so incredibly good at.
They pulled the whole N7 crap back in Andromeda and we all know how that turned out. It's a horrible marketing tool they keep pushing which will bite them in the ass again. But this is Bioware we're talking about, they NEVER learn from their mistakes
> Sovereign is defeated and Council want to sweep this under the carpet
> Maybe send Shepard on the shore leave with his LI and then Cerberus try to contact him/her there?
> Noooo, we just made this cool cut-scene!!1
I fricking hate this.
>it makes more sense that Shepard would work with Cerberus if he got randomly approached during shore leave than if Cerberus saved his life
Shep would just shoot the Cerberus agent in the face, the frick are you smoking?
He won't because human colonies are missing and Council won't do shit about it?
Considering how hard Starfield flopped, it's the perfect time to make a new Mass Effect.
>Considering how hard Starfield flopped
Not at all?
I get bored in Mass Effect 1. What class is the most fun to play across all 3 games?
ME1 is boring. 90% of the time is spent traversing empty ass planets in a janky, yet indestructible tank and the other 10% is waiting for your infinite ammo gun to cool down.
ME2 saved the series from irrelevancy, only for ME3 to ruin it on the narrative front.
ME2 saved shit
it only brought in tourists
ME1 was an OK early Xbox360 game.
ME2 BUILT Mass Effect.
ME3 would have not mattered to anyone, if not for it. You can disagree, but you'd be wrong. Case in point: good will amassed by ME2 led to ME3 selling 3 times as much as ME2, meanwhile ME2 didn't sell that much more than ME1, because ME1 just wasn't that big. It's a good game for its time, surpassed quickly by better games, that came soon after. Another ME1 level quality of game, would be viewed like Andromeda.
I did not care for ME2 or ME3.
They lacked a certain je ne sais quoi of the original.
This has no bearing on reality, though.
Do you want a pat on the back?
ME1 was a neat idea with mediocre execution.
ME2 is easily one of the top 10 games of the 360/PS3 era.
All 3 games were fantastic you whiny child.
where did all the Andromeda apologist come from?
I lost interest when they didn't denounce the Andromud and unironically use it in teasers as if anybody gives a shit about it
Twitter and contrarians
Black people
ME2 > ME3 > ME1
I don't know what the frick Andromeda is and at this point I don't care. ME3 was fine outside of its ending. Frick the mako.
ME2 sucks because it's teasing you with the criminal world but in fact you're only on the surface level of it and you are a boring ass sheriff again.
The whole "let's kill Shepard and immediately revive him just so he can work for the bad guys" thing on ME2 was shit
What the frick were they thinking?!
They were thinking the plot of ME1 was shit and it was high time for some L U D O K I N O
DUDE WHAT IF WE KILLED OUR PROTAGONIST RIGHT AT THE START OF THE GAME WOULDN'T THAT BE AWESOME LMAO
shit taste, me2 was good despite cerberus and the illusive man, not because of it
>WOULDN'T THAT BE AWESOME
And it was.
Illusive man was based until he went off the rails
>hey boss, you know how you said mass effect's gonna be a trilogy? Well we can't really figure out a way to stretch the plot to 3 games.
>MAKE A FILLER EPISODE!
That's how the meeting went down.
And then they ran out of time on ME3 and couldn't finish it properly, fricking hilarious
Mako was comfy and so is ME1
This. ME1 has a vibe that ME2 loses by simply plopping you at the point of interest on each planet.
Bioware is STILL on that stupid train of trying to make FemShep the canon gender aren't they?
I don't give a shit.
Just bring the ME3 CoOp back and don't have it play like fricking Andromeda
It baffles me that people still rank ME3 above the other two. It's complete dogshit and the only conclusion I can come to is that it's purely nostalgia goggles, because they played ME3 when they were like 8 years old.
No one has nostalgia for ME3, only for ME2 and it shows. Also I like them all, but rank them 1 > 3 > 2 and I played the trilogy for the first time last year
So, you just have shit taste. Okay.
>shit taste
Lol, ME2 is the normalgay's favorite 7th gen RPG
disliking popular things doesn't make you interesting
that armor looks nothing like actual N7 armor and the collar is goofy also N7 should just be a Shepard only thing
not every protag needs to be N7 when there are other ranks besides that they could use
There’s nothing to think.
No game no hype. Them’s the rules.
This. Who gives a frick about merchandise and a comic bundle?
This thing has probably be remade atleast twice already with everyone on the dev team being moved and switched around constantly. I doubt it'll even be able to reach 30 FPS.
>bioware still attempting to act like femshep is the face of ME when the franchise was literally built on maleshep's back
I'm not even referring to the trailer, just general merch and marketing. This is so bizarre, I guess you can explain it seeing that nobody from late 2000s Bioware exists in the company anymore and now it's full of fat dykes and trannies.
>bioware still attempting to act like femshep is the face of ME
I know right ? It's fricking irritating. They can't put both, no. No they have to shove that redhead b***h down our throats, and only her. Hell, she didn't even exist before ME2 and now they try to make people forget Shepard
I hate that shit too, but the lame looking woman in the trailer isn't Shepard
I know it's a meme by now but the answer is literally ESG. CDPR is doing the same thing with Cyberpunk in that they're using Female V for literally everything. Ads, trailers, banners, merchandise, social media. They legit scrubbed Male V out of existence even though I'd wager that he's the most picked out of the two just like every other RPG with a male and female option. Remember when Ubisoft made Kassandra canon in AC Odyssey and then data released showing that majority still picked Alexios? Same thing.
They think their male fanbase will just accept it no matter what. They are desperate for growth and they think the female market is more important to pander to than their male base. Also all the blue haired art school losers and diversity hires aren't helping with either...
Because the one time they posted a group shot of the cast with male shepard in the middle on twitter a bunch of trannies sperged out at them.
I liked the bit where she turned around.
>next game won't have best girl
Yeah, it's a shame Tali and Jack won't be on it while they keep jerking off Liara's wiener
Or maybe it's a blessing, I wonder how they would butcher my favorite characters if they were in
>Liara
I'm so tired of this b***h. It's a real bad point, to me that she is back. Again.
I actually liked her in the first game. Then she was barely in ME2, where her personality radically changed for the worse and she became a mary sue, and that continued with ME3 where she was even worse
Flanderization. Happens in almost every series.
>flanderization
I can't see it on Tali, Jack, Garrus etc. Is it just because I like those characters or did Liara really get shafted? But then again, I've noticed that most Liaragays prefer her ME2-3 personality instead of her ME1 self
that word will never catch on, just drop it, dude.
>Flanderization
That's an actual term to refer to an oversimplification of a character.
>next game won't have best girl
But it will! Liara presence was confirmed a while ago anon!
>next game has best girl
>but not Shepard
What's the point? Will we get to cuck Shepard by fricking Liara too? How soulless. The only way this thing was going to succeed was if they brought back Shepard and most of the other squad. It doesn't even matter if the game is shit. People would have bought just for Shepard, now it's a definite failure. Sad.
Reminder that femshep doesn't exist since she didn't even have a canon face model
>2.3k dislikes
lmfao why?
Because it's an ad for merchandise, not a game.
Dropped.
helmet looks terrible like a daft punk helmet, this is definitely a poojeet/chink (aka: canadian) outsourcing project.
It's "Stealthy" but it adds a huge N7 stripe on the outfit so it's no longer stealthy at all, in fact anyone will immediately know it's N7.
I hate that if they add a dateable alien girl like Vetra I will buy it.
I hate my weakness
Desexualized Mass Effect oh boy!
Yeah. It was such a huge part of the original style.
>caring after 3
>woman
>not a white buzz cut strong jawed marine
I don't think I will redeem.
Work it harder (than Andromeda)
Make it better (than Andromeda)
Release it faster (than Andromeda)
a bar low enough to make limbo masters surrender on the spot
In one of the teaser images there's a Angara, LMAOOOOOO
Dude, it's fricked, andromeda is basically canon now.
>tease shepard and the ot in previous videos and images, suggesting it was a sequel to the ot and andromed was forgotten about
>lol it was just a joke guys we're going full andromeda here with the tard-looking ayys and it's set after andromeda and everyone is dead, but don't worry our favorite character liara is in 🙂
What's with the motorcycle helmet? And the trailer is just the woman walking. Couldn't they have been more creative? Wonder how long this took them to come up with.
it looks like something they outsourced to some random russian dude and he made it in a day or two, it's pretty cheap looking
also, when are we gonna get the matrix demo graphics? remember when the unreal 5 matrix demo came out? when are we getting games that look like that? unreal already has a randomized character creator where the devs can make ultra life-like characters with the press of a single button, so what gives?
>N7 Day
Black person, you need to have something to actually be proud of. you've had more misses than hits at this point.
is this the best EA Bioware has to offer?
What a load of nothing. I remain unhyped
>pretentious cringe faux-rpg about some weird looking bald dutch guy travelling into space looking for gay aliens to frick in the ass aboard his spaceship
no
ME trilogy only has lesbian aliens, no man on man alien action.
Is Andromeda worth playing now that it's been patched up a bunch?
No, it's still a boring slog. Ryder comes off as a complete dweeb and is not protag material, the rest of your crew range from generic at best like Drak to absolutely insufferable dipshits like Liam who is just Sera from Dragon Age but in the form of a black guy.
Frick no. What's wrong with you?
God no
How much do you like the Mass Effect world? I played it earlier this year and I don't regret it, but I can't say it's a good game.
The game feels like a YA novel. Even the serious moments are broken up by "funny" one-liners and such. The new alien races look unintentionally funny and non-threatening, even the antagonists. Gameplay is fun, but not as good as ME3 imo. Missions are often little more than fetch quests. Companions are a lot worse than in the OT, but some like Drack and Vetra are nice. Peebee is not as ugly as I thought.
Despite all this, I admit it was nice to visit the different planets and meet the aliens. I'm really into the different races in ME and the overall world, so I don't regret playing it. But it's not a very good game.
lotta quips huh?
That's my biggest gripe with pretty much every game made in the past 10 years, they all base their storytelling off Marvel movies.
>lotta quips
It was a lot in 2017, but it's probably about average in 2023
>3 weeks
>less than half a million views
Yeah, everyone's still mad.
>Make a Mass Effect spin-off set between ME1 and 2.
>Make the protagonist a smuggler working from the grimy streets of Omega in a dingy craft working with a crew of misfits.
>Main antagonist is just a crime boss, stakes are personal rather than cosmic.
Ez money
People don't want a spinoff after Andromeda. If there's no Shepard it will bomb.
Can't wait for them to ruin Shepard with their current writers
for the sake of the franchise shepard needs fricking put down
there's nothing to gain by bringing them back other than
>le fan service
there's nothing more for the character to do, they literally defeated the fricking reapers, anything else is gonna be anticlimactic as shit
Shut the frick up Casey Hudson. We all know it's you.
I think you are about 3 weeks late posting this thread moronic OP
People have no trust in Nu-Bioware, and a video that shows a Daft Punk impersonator walking through a featureless hallway doesn't really move the needle.
again, they're advertising a game they have no way of releasing until the end of the decade
bioware are gonna keep shitting out pieces of info every november like your grandmother in the bathroom after thanksgiving - we aren't getting much and none of it is good
It's gonna be so fricking bad.
They're only doing it as nostalgia after Andromeda failed and they're even trying to reuse those cringe andromeda aliens.
Thoughts about what?
It's a faceless person in a coat pulling out a gun.
What are your thoughts about someone pulling a slice of bread out of a bag?
I don't even need to see it remove the helmet to known that it's a black woman underneath.
First time playing ME3. Should I do all the tedious fly to planet to scan side quests?
Yes. You want perfect destroy or the ending will be even worse than it is already. You need those war assets.
trash armor
rule of cool
I will never forgive Mass Effect 3 turning the based Geth into a race of Pinocchios. They were cool precisely because their group-mind was so different to everything else. What kind of moron would ruin that by making them all into individuals thus no different from everyone else?
>Thoughts?
its going to suck.
What other studio could handle this ip when Bioware inevitably croaks? My pick is Eidos Montreal
Kojima
Anon there's only like 2 devs left in existence capable of making a good game period. Asking for someone to make a good Mass Effect is an unattainable goal in current year.
So this is how it ends? We're doomed to playing games pre-2012 forever?
pretty much. thankfully there are enough old games to last us a lifetime and then some. cheer up. no need to 'play' propaganda.
there arent really any studios going for the same level of appeal as ME like its mostly space sim shit but I've seen people mention nu Obsidian before which has to be the worst choice
unironically worse than nu Bioware
>obsidian make me4
>it's 8 hours long and consists solely of pink haired fat chicks making snarkt quips about capitalism
What if "old" Obsidian?
Casey Hudson's Humanoid Studios.
theyre busy making new DX
>theyre busy making new DX
No they're not. Square Enix sold the license to Embracer who's now going bankrupt.
they are homie
Inb4 the new Deus Ex protag is a black woman
doubt tbh eidos is one of the few good devs left
those homies managed to actually make a good marvel game which is impressive.
>Vigil theme plays
This part of the game is where Mass Effect peaked for me
its gonna be a massive shitshow like we have never seen before. There will be no Male Shepard, only yaas queen slay femoid with a buzzcut sideshave. there will be 3 classes. No MAKO. Pozz galore. ESG score over 9000.
I'll be surprised if Bioware survives long enough to make another Mass Effect game. Based on what I've heard about Dreadwolf's development EA and Bioware have learned goddamn nothing and it's going to be another disaster on the scale on Anthem.
The ONLY piece of copium left to hold onto is that the main reason Dreadwolf is such a shitshow is BioWare are taking every competent dev and putting them on Mass Effect.
milking a dead cow
Predictions for the game?
>Cerberus will be nazis. Can't have a modern Western game without nazis.
>At least one important troony character, probably a crewmate
>Said troony weill be a romance option
>Said troony will be modelled to have a perfect female body
>Actualy females will range from ugly to mid at best
>Except that one white chick that you can't romance because she is coalburning with the black guy
>A dialogue with 5 different options to stand up for the wonderful values of diversity and inclusion
>Random female empowerment character making a debut by emasculating and besting a well-established male character
>Cookie-cutter morality checks with no dilemmas at all
>Day 1 DLC
>Playable 2 weeks after release, because that's how long it takes for them to patch out game-breaking crashes that are revealed on day 1
>requires Origin account
>requires constant internet connection
>requires a PC that will be considered high-end in 2025 despite the game not looking noticeably better than something from 2015
>cringeworthy fanservice and references to earlier titles instead of competent storytelling
>trench coat
>gun
My name is not important; what is important is what I'm going to do.
>Biodrones are still a thing
>malo
Bioware hasn't made a passable game since Mass Effect 2, and even that's pushing it. They're a studio where anyone of talent or vision has already left, and all that remains are people who seem to have a disdain for the types of games that made the company what it is.
>Female protaganist
No thank you
It's Bioware. They will do male and female PC 100% of the time.
Cute asian girls!
>Bioware
lol
lmao even
You mentally challenged drones never learn.
I can already tell this is some smug chick with an undercut. maybe even a Black person. no thanks, chief.
If the game has Shepard returning as the protagonist and with most, if not all of the old squad returning
>30-40% chance of being good
If the game has Shepard returning but only with Liara
>10-30% of being good
If the game has Shepard returning but only as a sideline role or as some mentor role to the "true" protagonist
>0%
If the game doesn't have Shepard returning at all
>lol
>lmao
It's weird because I feel like Shepard's story is told, and that I can't imagine them going forward with things in a way that will ever do justice to anyone's choices and established character relationships.
But on the other hand, I think seeing Shep return hand-in-hand with old fan favorites making some bombastic return would be the only fan service that I'd be immediately susceptible to.
Oh no, wouldn't want to piss off the three people who chose Control and Synthesis (combined)
Destroy is easily the best and most likely to be used, but it's still weird to push a canon on every major choice that's been made.
No it isn't. It would be weirder to consider Control and Synthesis as anything other than unholy abominations that were blights before the great benevolence of a beautiful and caring God
You haven't even met your deity.
At least I'll eventually mine. You never will because you're a flaming homosexual who picked Control. Enjoy hell
Idiocy in sticking to salvation dogmas of others aside, you shouldn't be so happy about that, for all you know you'll have to own up for your own sins.
At any rate, I only played the first two games so I'm not bothered, and it's all useless in the end so it's not like it ever mattered.
>it's all useless in the end so it's not like it ever mattered
>nihilist attempting to lecture others
oh the irony
I'm not in fact a nihilist. I simply believe that at this time the overarching pursuit is meaningless and isn't what it appears to be.
Certainly a more practical outlook on reality than abdication of responsibility for one's life to egregores (in an abstract sense), theist.
Only ones who abdicate their responsibility for their lives are hedonists and atheists. They wash their hands of morality and care not for the lives of others. Only themselves and the very present. The temporary, the ephemeral. There can be no discipline, no responsibility if one is constantly "in the moment," basking in the mere pleasures of life.
Ah, but salvation is a type of hedonism. Spiritualism, bliss and all that, even discipline can be corrupted, it is all exactly the same, the emotional contents do not matter, the end goal does, all to forget the true, violent nature of reality and let it quietly die off to the side. You types don't typically bother asking why anyone needs to be saved and from what, and from whom.
Atheism don't necessarily stipulate abdication at all, basic sense dictates that a proper atheist is a person who is entirely alone, all choices and acts they can make are their own, if fatalistic. However, indeed it too can be an escapism, albeit instead of a bliss of a hero who pulls through on sheer willpower around for your sake and your submission, some other pointless self-torture, or auto-dissolution attempt, it's rooted in middle of nowhere void.
>morality
Moral knowledge is not an obligation to act on it or in specific ways.
>care
Such obligation does not exist.
Unless Shepard turned into Daft Punk for the teaser I kind of doubt that they'll be the main focus again
Hi Hack Walters. You better hope that is Shepard, otherwise the game is going to bomb harder than Hiroshima
Reapers are an impetus in disguise..
That mass effect is a mediocre turd with not a hint of originality.
I’m ok if the character is not white but Japanese girl
After andromeda i am not hyped at all, not to mention with all the PC bullshit irl bleeding into games its bound to pander to the 1%. Also its EA all they care about is money. I 100% see this as ME2.0+1.0 type shit, they are gonna bring shepard back from the dead agaion to fight ancient evil cause normal races that survived the reaper wars cant fend for themselves anymore.
>put a chick in it and make her gay
there is a 0% chance any game bioware makes from now on will be good
Your comment is 100% correct.
What the hell is that gay ass armor/jacket hybrid?
How did we go from kino battle armors to that goofy Black person shit
When will people realise old bioware is dead? Just gonna be a laughing stock and relentlessly compared to superior games like BG3 or Cyberpunk
>Cyberpunk
Eat shit and die, Pollack
Mass Effect 1 is still in my backlog. Is it worth playing for its historical significance or has it aged like milk?
aged like milk, maybe the story and synth soundtrack will make you nostalgic for a time you never lived in though
>historical significance
it's a fun game as long as you recognize going in that it's a console rpg from 2009 and it's gonna have some warts
anything in development in the last 5 years is going to be woke shit
fricking daft punk looking jacket looks gay as frick, zoomershit