Thoughts on DQ12 wanting to change the direction of it's franchise?

>Dragon Quest 12 targeting adults is causing ‘a lot of trouble’ for Square Enix
>Wants to have "darker themes/tone"
>feature more meaningful choices
>Wants to change the classic combat we all know DQ for
>Dragon Quest XII Could Shape The Next "10 To 20 Years" Of The Series (aka to chase the western money and change the franchise forever if it's a success}

Keep in mind the "darker themes" here refers to specifically the western idea of dark themes, see the recent FF16 for example, since DQ has always had dark and adult themes throughout it's games but would just seem to be a lighter tone due to it's artstyle and generally bright colors

And we all know they're wanting to change this for the Western market since DQ in the Western markets has been pretty much untapped throughout it's franchise history compared to their other big franchise in FF, and if that's at the expense of it's Japanese fanbase we will have to find out when it comes out

We do know for a fact FF16 sold less in Japan compared to the other Final Fantasy's and other Japanese game companies sales capitalize on the Western sales for their own games. So you can't really blame them for not wanting to put one of the most historic franchise out there and try to make it more known in other parts of the world

But for it to be Dragon Quest and to change on what made the franchise itself so legendary and revered in Japan but also possibly alienate their own audience? Doesn't feel right one bit to me

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >headcanon
    take your western rage bait boner somewhere else.

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Weren't 6 and 7 a bit edgy compared to 5 and 8? Seems like pottery.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I dont see how 7 is any more or less edgy than 5.

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Oh guys, DQ is like. So boring, right? Basic b***h RPG, got to change it. So we are making it basic b***h action game, because we don't know what else to do.
    I don't know how they don't see how this is going to blow up in their faces. They already had pushback when they tried to do the same shit with DQ9. Initial gameplay was like Zelda and they got death threats. No one plays DQ for it's gameplay. But sure, accelerate the continued collapse of this company, can't wait to see them sell off their various IPs to try to recoup losses after filing for bankruptcy.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      2 more weeks

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    it will be the first interesting game in the series

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can't be any worse than what they've been doing.

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    some of the old dragon quest games were dark but in a light hearted way (DQV slavery etc...) so if it's like that then I'm keen

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Japanese game companies sales capitalize on the Western sales for their own games
    Yeah, but they buy those games BECAUSE of the Japanese flavor these games have. Westernizing them would only hurt their sales like it did with FFXV/XVI.

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    If they want to sell DQ to westerners they need to fire the localisation team

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is SE pissing away its on-brand advantages in the gaming market?

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    What kind of adult targeting are we talking about here?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Debra Wilson

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dropped

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      They're going to show what really happened between martina and booga this time.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        As long as It's with my self insert

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          You get to play as the Booga in this game and its about turning all the heroines into your Martinas.

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oh boy I can't wait for no casinos or bunny girls or fun monster designs as a result of them trying to be mature
    Fuuuuuuuuuck global market chasing, when has that EVER resulted in a better game?

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why is DQ12 taking so long?
    >Adult themes are hard lol
    It was a joke, you mongoloid

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    How many wives and concubines can I take?

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    "Darker themes" just for the sake of "darker themes" is never good. Think of a good fricking story and it happens to be edgy then so be it but having that in mind from the start is moronic.

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    He said that even people who play only turn based combat can play the new gameplay style without problems, only problem is the darker tones, DQ was never shy to anything, DQ6 for example has child Milly being sold into slavery and DQ5 the hero quest is fricked up, but deep down I know it will be "dark" like in FFXVI without any humor not like in older DQs, either way as a fan I personally couldn't care how it turns out because I think that DQXI was a good point to end the series.
    If is good, more DQ for me, if is bad, DQXI was the final of one.

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can't really give an opinion until we actually see the game beyond a logo. The problem with maturity as it relates to media is that everyone has their own idea of what entails maturity. It can mean anything from simply involving more serious themes/commentary to something more shallow like characters saying "FRICK" every few sentences.

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >feature more meaningful choices
    That is honestly one thing I hope we see in more Square games, honestly. More meaningful choice as RPGs would be a far better way to "modernize" FF or DQ than trying to turn them into action games.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      This will never be a thing in video games. Partly because the game would have to be too big, it will always circle back around to you having 'chosen' to fight the big bad.
      Mostly because people feel like they should have access to all content without multiple playthroughs and devs are scared of denying players anything

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Meaningful choice doesn't have to mean "completely change the main scenarior/who the big bad is" though.
        Having multiple ways to get towards that end is meaningful choice.

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can't wait to play a DQ game with a new, innovative combat system where you mash a button to do auto attacks and fill up a gauge that then slows time if you want to use a skill or an item. SE are so innovative and great at game design and they did such a great job with modern Final Fantasy, it really was about time for them to finally bring those geniuses on board to save Dragon Quest and bring it into the modern era of gaming.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lets be real if the FF7Remake battle system became the standard for all RPGs going forward it would only be an boon for the genre.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I like FF7R's combat but frick that. The genre needs more variety, not less.

  19. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >darker themes
    Finally NTR is back on the menu boys

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yoyo was worst girl in Bahamut Lagoon anyway, Mist was best girl by MILES. So dumb she's a "hidden" character so she doesn't get the play in the story she deserves(ie getting with Byuu at the end of the game while Yoyo lives alone with Alexander REEE'ing rent free in her head to destroy everything for eternity)

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    just pull a relink add coop and see how dq blows up even more

  21. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Dragon Quest XII Could Shape The Next "10 To 20 Years" Of The Series
    so what you're saying is it will only affect the very next game

  22. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

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    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      8 had uncensored puff-puff.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I said no slimes

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