Thoughts on the Steam Deck?

Still waiting for my email, says after Q3.

I really hope you saved that from Ganker and didn't actually waste money on that shit lmao

Looks like shit. Try again, Chink.

Looks awesome! How much does it cost compared to the steam deck?

These actually look cool but I can't imagine it being used for more than a novelty.

this is gonna be a fun device once the hinge loosens up and the screen can't stay up properly

>can't conceal it
are you robbing a bank with it?

Switchlets seething i see

>horrible for games where mouse precision is important
Compared to what? A Handheld with no touch pads?

I guess at least this guy hasn't castrated yet.

The battery life being short has literally nothing to do with the CPU's ISA, dunning kruger brainlet.

It'll burn through power pretty quickly if you just fire up games, but once you've dialed in settings its not that hard to get it to run for 3+ hours. I fully expect Valve to add a feature for community game power profiles like there is for the controller profiles.

posted in the other thread
playing a.i: the somnium files
also death stranding & neon white w/community gyro presets

This.
On the other hand, it's pretty hard to avoid arguing since Steam Deck can turn into a pile of dog shit in wrong hands.

Just imagine the ammount of people who won't like Steam Deck
>anyone who think this is a Switch replacement
>anyone who wants to play AAA game on high settings
>anyone who doesn't like to mess around setting up stuff properly
There's probably more but I'm too tired to think

Here you go.
I got the capcom bundle and decided to try the dmc series from the beginning.
I understand know that I may have picked the wrong beginning.

F-Zero GX runs well, might need to turn down internal resolution and turn on a hack to make it totally smooth though.
As expected, Sand Ocean runs like shit just like every device that tries it, including my main PC.

i'm struggling to run la mulana freeware on it 🙁

I've mostly been playing Tunic on mine the past few days, though this in particular also sounds fun.

Been playing Dohna Dohna on it. Works great, as long as you get the english version (F95Zone has it). Japanese locales sadly aren't supported.

>downsides are it being fricking massive and piss poor battery life if you're playing anything more demanding than indie games (in which case, you probably already have and prefer the Switch)

THIS. but(!)
I was basically one of those people you just described but it all changed when I found out it runs old AAA games perfectly and battery doesn't die too fast.

Playing Deus Ex: HR in bed is perfect

I have 3 steam controllers and the trackpads were almost identical in terms of general feel. The plastic quality is a little cheap feeling but not flimsy by any stretch. If you think you’d like them you probably will.

because epic doesn't offer an official linux client
try legendary

Maybe

demon's souls should fine run on rpcs3 if you don't max out the resolution
as for bloodborne, there isn't a ps4 emulator that's ready for that just yet, but that should change in the near future

dumb frogposter

the what

Similar performance to a Steam Deck while costing 2 or 3 times as much.
How is that better?

>reminder not to enjoy
reminder to* enjoy

I mean desktop mode with a lot of apps open is going to lag it out yes

>too big to be comfortable

>muh exclusives
Did you forget Switch users spent years begging for ports?

>too big to be comfortable
handlet detected

there's a ton of porn and /misc/ threads on the catalogue, why don't you complain about those?

It's a decompilation, so literally yes.

All open source projects can run on linux, so yes

Plenty but a lot of it is also theoretically stuff you could bring along on the Steam Deck like indies. Some stuff is just not emulateable worth a pinch of shit like Breath of the Wild this is not actually a point, you'd be emulating it on CEMU instead for better performance or Hyrule Warriors DE, and online games like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Smash, and Mario Party add a lot of longevity.
>gorilla glass
Don't know, actually haven't been able to find anything on the glass specs, just that it's tempered.

>We ordered on the same day.
How many hours apart?

No. The deck is standards compliant.
The reason third party docks (and chargers for that matter) kill the switch is that it's not compliant with the USB-C standard and has insufficient voltage protection.

>not playing doom through one of the many sourceports

I noticed that a while ago, and yeah, I have no idea what's going on there. Maybe there's some difference between Bethesda's ports of the two games. On that note, as the others have implied, both games run natively on Linux since forever, and in fact the best way to play them on Windows is exactly the same as the best way to play them on Linux. Just install a source port. It's actually easier on Linux because you can just do
>game-data-packager --install doom
after downloading the game, or use Luxtorpeda. Steam Deck ratings only consider how a game will work "out of the box" — and, frankly, both of the "out of the box" options for classic Doom are just stupid.
>using Proton to run Bethesda's closed-source Windows-only censored port of a game that has had multiple open-source Linux-compatible engines capable of playing the uncensored game since forever
lol
>using Proton to run the Windows version of a DOS emulator which is also available on Linux
lmao
There's nothing Valve can do about it, of course, except maybe getting permission to distribute Boxtron or Luxtorpeda as official compatibility tools. It's Bethesda who desperately want to pretend Doom and Quake are Windows-exclusive games. Too bad for them, that cat doesn't go back in the bag.

we're missing a dock, a duke and a DAC

Parent has been invalidated as of last September which is why they haven't gone after anyone else.
This tactic of Microsoft buying 'licenses' from companies who then immediately turn around and sue Microsoft's competition is one of their favorites.
Read up on SCO vs IBM if you haven't, its a real nightmare.

To me it won't matter, they don't have the versatility of a PC. Nintendo's gonna charge me not just for the privilege of playing online but they're only going to have a handful of older games, meanwhile I can play nearly whatever the hell I want on a PC handheld

it is a PC
>Can I do this on a linux desktop PC?
if the answer is yes, then yes you can do it

If you just play steam verified games. none.
If you want to play with emulators, or some less supported games, very little, most stuff are identical to windows.
Now if you want play a specific 1998 game, that only kinda works with a specific version of wine, or you want to mod a game with mods that use dll replacements, things might get a bit more complicated

More games running on the Deck means more games running on desktop Linux. Any time Valve makes an improvement to Proton I can use it on my desktop computer running Linux. Microsoft doesn't like that, they want me to use their crap.

Microsoft know that the Deck is the thin edge of the wedge just like ChromeOS systems that have Steam available pre-installed to end their dominance in the desktop space.
They've watched as Linux based OSes have devoured their marketshare in every other segment over the last 20 years, and now they're going to be faced with the same decision again before the end of the decade.

Cut their losses and abandon yet another market to free OSes?
Attempt to completely lock down gaming to their closed platform subscription service?
Follow IBMs lead and completely exit the end user market?

You may encounter some bugs or inconsistencies, but when it works, it works well.

eh, more of a half chub

I guess you could use SD cards as game cartridges if you really want.

Well if you buy shitloads of high capacity microSD cards and also have a 1TB SSD you could have a whole lot of games in physical form, but that`s gonna be fricking expensive

Haven't tried it myself but probably yes

btrfs is mainly just nice for compression, but it is relatively unstable when compared to ext4

>what about formatting a thumbdrive to FAT32 or NTFS?
That works. You have to do some terminal stuff to get ntfs support though

i couldn't get warpinator to work for some reason. scp and ssh worked just fine, though. not that hard, either.
Using a fast SD card reader is probably really the preferred and fastest way, but SSH justwerks. also, exfat is a thing.

also, what sort of performance differences should i expect for switch emulation on games that are stored locally versus on the SD card?

(this is assuming you'd store the shader cache on the internal in both cases)

considering there isn't a huge performance hit with native games, probably not much.

>what about formatting a thumbdrive to FAT32 or NTFS?
That works. You have to do some terminal stuff to get ntfs support though

yeah, installing ntfs-3g probably is all. and disabling the readonly filesystem to be able to install it, which is more annoying.

I just use a python http server.

>what about formatting a thumbdrive to FAT32 or NTFS?
I would personally not want to deal with the read/write speeds on a thumbdrive.

Currently messing with yuzu in hopes I can finally replace my switch, pokemon arceus runs fine in the hour or so I've played so far, but the real test will be BoTW2 if it ever releases.
Also if you don't already own GTAV on steam and want to buy it for the steam deck, don't. Its DRM just fricking refuses to work offline for me a lot of other people apparently. Just pirate it.

>Get microSD card
>Format it on the steamdeck from the KDE disks app as BTRFS (you have to go to the desktop mode), not ext4 as there aren't any native ext4 win drivers iirc
>Install WinBTRFS on your windows PC
Tada you now can use the same SD card on your PC and deck without messing with network stuff, and it'll work fine for games. You can't do NTFS without fricking with some terminal shit and even then proton is wonky with the NTFS drivers from what I've tried. FAT32 is also an option but the 4GB file limit will restrict what games you can play off the microSD by a lot.

Valve pretty much said they made "too many" compromises to get it down to a low price point. If I were them I would release a Deck Pro in a year or so with better hardware (Zen 4, bigger battery, etc) and a better screen. It's not like console generations where the previous iteration is incompatible with the next-generation games, both devices will be able to play the same games in the future.

given the choice i buy the switch oled every time

>Steam Controller
Great controller, taken off the market due to bullshit patent. Patent was invalidated opening door to a new 'Neptune' controller.

>Steam Link
Cool device made obsolete by Smart TVs.

>Steam Machines
Weren't made by Valve, Microsoft used their patent license agreements with the OEMs who were making them to force them off the market.
This is why the Deck is first-party Valve hardware, and why it avoids every Microsoft patent possible.

>nfs
real men use 9p you homosexual

i could never get NFS working, writing whole configs is just too much.
systemctl enable --now sshd and scp file steamdeck:/home/deck/Games/ is my speed

Stardew Valley, emulating Animal Crossing, low-effort tasks in MMOs like crafting and gathering, Atelier series.
I haven't checked to see how the controls are yet, but Recettear may also be great on the deck.

Project diva mega mix was fine, ran under 10W IIRC, didn't play it much though. I didn't think it was worth the 30gb it took up when I could have about 5-10 older games in its place.

As far as framerate goes, it runs at full speed.
You have Denuvo DRM to contend with on the miku game that released on steam though, and on a handheld you're going to take out and about, that's gonna be a problem. If you wanna play something like project diva that won't give you that kind of bullshit, look up Project Heartbeat. That even has a native linux version and you won't need to run it through proton to run it on steam deck, and best part is: No denuvo.

What are you talking about? 512GB microSDs were fine from the very beginning, same as 1TBs.
By the way, micron is going to be making a 1.5 TB SD card soonish. Prepare your fricking wallets, men.

as much as i trust valve, i don't trust them that much.

>The Quarry
>game

Might just be waiting on the release of the version of SteamOS that just entered beta that supports scaling when hooking up to a TV.
Or if the rumors are true, waiting on availability of a new Steam Controller with the Deck's Neptune layout.

There is this if you can't wait: https://www.jsaux.com/products/upgraded-docking-station-for-steam-deck

No but I can tell you to download The Punisher

Check each individual game's PCSX2 wiki to see recommended settings, that's how I was able to run Shadow of the Colossus at full speed.

>walk into store and buy switch lite today for $150
to play what lol

Thanks, I'm looking forward to it!

Do you need to? I imagine most standard ones would work just fine

>using a stick for AM2R
What the frick is wrong with you?

I don't think it matters. Just add it as a non-steam game.

Barring stuff with anti-cheat that's incompatible with Linux, I've been able to make absolutely everything work. Proton is amazing, and those Deck Verified ratings are incredibly modest. Almost all my "incompatible" games have worked fine.

Fricking everything works with Proton. I was worried that Linux would suck for Steam Deck but it was absolutely smarter choice over Winshit 10.

CPU boost should stay on unless you're trying to save power.
SMT should be left on unless you have a game that performs worse with it on and some do.

wouldn't they be too big

>80 minute battery life
>Why yes, I do run my nonexistent Deck at above maximum TDP at all times

Show me another handheld that allows me to competently play factory-building games like Factorio or Mindustry as well as RTS games.

That sucks, you can try RMAing it.
Did you try calibrating it/ messing with the deadzone?

Go into the calibration and run through that. Also Steam input lets you see your dead zone so you could tell exactly where it's happening at or if it's set too low for some reason. I normally set mine lower than default as low as whatever controller I'm using will let me on regular Steam games.