Thoughts on these for Fire and Frass starters?

They also need names

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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't like the things on the fire ones head.

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    how does assdeergay draw so much slop yet not even remotely improve

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      fr fr y'all Gamefreak is heckin so much better

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        this but unironically

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          No cap cuh I don't even see a meme face and it's not based on an object or food!

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Wrenches and bolts are objects, spiders are food

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like them a lot. Fire one is very cool.

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Second evos

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      final evos Fire/Steel and Grass/Ghost

      I went for a tradesman theme for the fire one:
      Rodentice
      Journeager
      Masterivet
      I’m not as sure what the theme of the grass one is, but I was thinking lilies because they’re funeral flowers:
      Lilider
      Liloss
      Lilament

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >tradesmen
        close, but its inspired by classic video game engineer class. It can use the acorns it carries as bombs.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          I thought I would give some more context for the fire type. Its primarily based off s red squirrel that evolves into the Indian giant squirrel. The theme for the starters is more RPG classes. So the Squirrel isa rouge class and more of the engineer/tinkerer subclass. It Uses the berries and specialized acorns it finds to fuel its fire powers, and can even spit them out as fire balls. Its very inquisitive and creative and it's good at improvising explosives with its fire energy. The acorn caps on its head are supposed to resemble goggles. And the cream face pattern its supposed to resemble the faces of engineers who work with ballistics and fire and the accumulated ash that builds up on their face.
          The line tells a story of a gifted prodigy that eventfully becomes obsessed with work and starts tinkering with its own body becoming one with the craft it loves. So it gets stylized metal acorn arm cannons to further explore the engineer theme by essentially becoming a cyborg. It's also based of the "small furry critter that's good with machines" trope from various sci-fi based media.

          Gets a new attack:
          >Metal Bombs
          Type: Steel
          BP: 60
          Special
          Effect: User throws bombs at the opponents feet dealing damage. Incoming enemies take Fire type damage.

          Essentially sets up a Fire type Stealth Rock.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Grass type tells a story too.
            First stage is friendly, docile and full of energy. It's so jolly that instead of walking it hops because its full of energy. It wants to eat prey, but the prey it would eat is too big for it. So it mainly relies on photosynthesis and energy from the sun.
            Second stage loses a lot of the nergy it has during its first stage and becomes less active and moody. Its now bigger enough to hunt prey but it doesn't have the energy to pursue so now it has adapted to spin sticky silk-like plant fibers from its flower to catch prey. It also seems to carry its prey and keeps it as some sort of toy.
            Final stage has little to no energy left, its very reclusive and its body frail. So in order to survive it uses the souls of its previous prey to hunt, defend itself, and for transportation. The web construct is full of the souls of its past prey it now controls using spiritually empower fibers. But it has a soft spot for the souls it keeps, and would never actually put them in harms way, which is why it covers them in its strong silk-like plant fibers. Anything that it doesn't trust happens to touch the web construct becomes overwhelmed with a deep feeling of dread.

            Its based on floral mimic spiders, spider lillies, a puppeteer/necromancers (for the mage class), and the Jorogumo yokai.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              Gets a new move:
              >Souldrain Tether
              Type: Ghost
              BP: --
              PP: 10
              Status
              Effect: User shoots out silk empowered with ominous energy on the enemy side of the field. Incoming enemies can no longer escape for 3 turns, and lose a bit of health every turn they stay in play and the user recovers that health loss. The effects of this move expires after the user faints.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              Spidainty
              Parasider
              Silkubus

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Rotinker
            Squivent
            Nutillery

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      final evos Fire/Steel and Grass/Ghost

      Concept for the Grass line. Its a Puppeteer Joroguro Spider Necromancer that uses it's spiritually enhanced silk like plant fibers to control the body below it. It uses the lower body for offense and defense.

      I like the grass one. The fire one looks like video game character though. Also, what typing?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        cordyceps Fungus infected spider

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          What is that white colour spider like thing beside the green jumping spider?

          Meant to reply here. But as for typings.

          Fire > Fire/Steel
          Grass > Grass/Ghost
          But I am considering making the grass type part Bug type but changes to Ghost on the final evo.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            I think that's a great idea. Love the design.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Also, what typing?
        since they're starters only

        final evos Fire/Steel and Grass/Ghost

        have secondary types

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      final evos Fire/Steel and Grass/Ghost

      Both seem pretty cool, though I must say this little guy came to mind when I saw that fire starter.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        funny, the engineer pokemon reminded you of the spy.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Smallder and Sassyfras

      Kindlet and Shyder

      final evos Fire/Steel and Grass/Ghost

      Furrnace and Ventreeloqui

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      final evos Fire/Steel and Grass/Ghost

      >Her smile and optimism: gone

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    too big headed
    they look like Snorks

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      No one here will no what the frick a Snork is, grandpa.

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    final evos Fire/Steel and Grass/Ghost

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Left is shit
      Right is SEX

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Concept for the Grass line. Its a Puppeteer Joroguro Spider Necromancer that uses it's spiritually enhanced silk like plant fibers to control the body below it. It uses the lower body for offense and defense.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's a good concept, but something about it misses me. Maybe I have trouble telling where the body ends and the puppet begins.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        What is that white colour spider like thing beside the green jumping spider?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Literally my mom's Rakna Kadaki

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I didn't really like how the fire one came out but the grass one looks very interesting.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think the fire one starts off with a very stylized and cutesy face where it looks consistent in the first two stages but the final stage's face doesn't match? I'm not sure how to fix it since I completely get what you're going for but it seems to go from fairly cartoony proportions and features to more 'realistic' ones so it looks a bit out of place.

      The grass one is really creative though, good job OP

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      if the right one still had a normal hand and then one acorn cannon bolt thing on the other arm it would look more stylish, also the acorns on its head should become goggles

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        I thought about that, but wasn't a fan of the asymmetry.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      The spider is fantastic.
      The rabbit looks atrocious.
      It's genuinely surprising these were made by the same person. I'm not trying to discourage you here, I really like the spider, but holy shit dude what are those arms and that tail

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        I like my engineer squirrel.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          OH NO NO NO LOOK AT HIS ARMS

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >his

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Red
          Pseudo goggles
          Big hands
          Hmm…

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think its the body shape/head shape/size of the first one that's an issue. It looks like that rabbit pokemon. The other ones are great

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Scorbunny?

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    So cute that i never would let them evolve

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >They also need names
    trevor for the red one
    eugene for the green one

  9. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I would choose the third option

  10. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Litnutt
    Bloompider/Scuttlesprout

    Try to make the shape of each starters head unique from one another. Right now they're both just squashed ovals with things added on. It gives more identity.

  11. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think both final evos are based and especially the grass one is some real king shit, shame gamefreak would never make a starter like that
    Not a big fan of the preevos though

  12. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Frass

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