It should have been Bronze Age and covered 20x more land. I think they're going to do more regions as dlc but they should have been in the base game.
Egypt could still have been the posterboys.
I'm actually baffling to read so many anons going "who asked for this/who cares about ancient egypt?", I hope they're just chuds in disguise. Ancient Egypt is a MASSIVE deal in pop history. Probably not as much in the newest generations and probably less common in hardcore "I like history when it's in my strategy games" compared to normies, but come on.
Because like all pop history the interest is superficial. Nobody gives a shit about Egypt's military or economy, the two things strategy games depend on, they only care about cool monuments, cool pharaohs, and Exodus. It's an actual case of "you think you do but you don't" and we can see it in the numbers in this game.
Ancient Egypt is a super interesting setting, but nobody does it right.
As a war game, what does it even have to offer?
Chariots, slings and half-naked guys running around clubbing each other? Bronze age warfare is boring and total war has never done chariot right regardless.
How hard is it to understand that you need a core military fantasy to get people on board? Medieval had the heavy Knight charge running down swaths of peasants and massive sieges of towering fortifications, Shogun has the image of the honerabu Samurai fricking up peasants and scenes of gunpowder mowing down those same Samurai, Rome has the Legions against the Barbarian hoards, etc. People need something to latch on to, a scene that comes to mind when they consider playing the game that makes them think "that's cool, I want to make that happen".
The frick does Egypt have? SOME people might think of Chariot charges, but that's fricking it, and Chariots are fricking lame.
Cleopatra specifically was Greek. Egyptians before Alexander were closer to arabs which are a caucasoid race anon. Blacks don't appear north of the Sahara until colonialism.
that's impressive. you guys learned about that on reddit?
Cleopatra specifically was Greek. Egyptians before Alexander were closer to arabs which are a caucasoid race anon. Blacks don't appear north of the Sahara until colonialism.
Total war games have not been the same since they changed game engine with Empire Total War. It's like they lost some key people or design philosophy that made the games special.
Did it ever occur to you Fantasy not China is just a popular setting even to people outside of China and not China's going to be a playable Army when they revise the old world so they wanted it in the total war will have a video game?
I liked it
I know or care frick all about chink history but it's fun to just wreck entire armies with one chink demigod general. Reminded me of watching those shitty chink historical movies, which I think was the entire point.
I wish westerners had this much fun with their history. Imagine playing as Caesar or Napoleon and just being a gigachad terminator death dealer, killing hundreds of gauls/english on your own
Not him but you gotta keep in mind the reviews are inevitably gonna be "worse than they should be" (even if the starting point is low) because trust in CA is low as hell after WH3 and the DLC pricing policy. >why isn't anyone playing it
Even among people who would be willing to clench their teeth and forgive CA, you also have to consider that WHO THE FRICK wants to pay 60 bucks (or even more for preorder bonuses) for a Saga-sized game even though there already has been good games to buy this year.
Troy did a lot of things right and it was the best TW since Medieval 2 or Shogun.
pharaoh didn't build up upon that, removed them, the battles are still the same shit since rome 2 without blobbing being fixed, arcade'y unit buffs and modifiers in the middle of the fight, dumb ai and poor balance - in pharaoh heavy armor just dominates but the usual "use tanking line and kill with missiles" still should apply. This engine is fricking moronic and it wasn't made for ranged combat back when Empire came out. They also ended up removing the stuff that made Troy work. To me they dropped the ball hardest with the Black person memnon update and leaving the game in a shitty state without the balancing, polishing patches afterwards. Just showed what to expect in a future and lo, we are getting a game with negrified ramesses who is more related than modern Europeans than anyone from Africa and a game that's just mediocre and not worth the time.
I instantly lost interest when they revealed that only Egypt and Levant are playable areas and focused on a narrow Bronze Age collapse period
They could have made a kino game, spanning the entire Ancient Near East (Including Anatolia, Greece, Babylon) and make easy DLCs set in different eras (for example making a DLC about Neo-Assyria or Rise of Persia).
Just play FoG2 Swifter than Eagles
It's the closest thing you'll get to Bronze Age kino
which was a moronic move on their part. They hVe the technology and assets to give us combined campaign with Troy where they could just modify the factions a little.
They should've focused more on the Assyrians. Those guys were brutal conquerors. Bronze Age era and warfare are extremely interesting, but dont just focus on Egypt. Assyria, Minoa, Crete, they should all be present.
>Shalmaneser III – “If illed the wide plain with the corpses of his warriors. These rebels I impaled on stakes. A pyramid of heads I erected in front of the city."
>Tiglathpileser III -"I hung their king up in front of the gate of his city on a stake. His land , his wife, his sons, his daughters, his property, his treasure I carried off. All of the people I carried off to Assyria.
>Ashurbanipal - "Their dismembered bodies I fed to the dogs, swine, wolves, and eagles, to the birds of the heavens and the fish in the deep. What was left of the feast I ordered them to be cast upon the heaps."
>Sennacherib- “I cut their throats like lambs. I cut off their precious lives as one cuts a string. Like the many waters of a storm, I made their gullets and entrails run down upon the wide earth. My prancing steeds harnessed for my riding, plunged into the streams of their blood as into a river. The wheels of my chariot, which brings low the wicked and the evil, were bespattered with blood and filth. With the bodies of their
warriors I filled the plain, like grass. Their testicles I cut off, and tore the privates like the seeds of a cucumber."
They're still around too, and have at various points been a thorn in the side of the Arabs because unlike everyone else they usually fight back rather than rolling over and dying.
I'm not buying it. The last one I played was Three Kingdoms, and despite loving the setting, I hated the game, largely because it brought back mechanics that should have stayed in the games from it's inception, but CA started wanting more and more money and now we end up paying for new games that may have one or two features that were seen previously in games like Med 2 and Rome 1. The game peaked at Med 1, I will never believe otherwise unless CA gets it's head out of it's ass and scraps the Warscape engine, and then begins releasing expansion packs instead of microDLC.
whats that?
It should have been Bronze Age and covered 20x more land. I think they're going to do more regions as dlc but they should have been in the base game.
Egypt could still have been the posterboys.
Anubia sexo
My queen
There were so many more interesting eras in which to set the game, I don't get it
>, I don't get it
Its just expansion for troy done by few bulgarians for some potatoes and bottles of vodka sold as full game
ESG
Ancient Egypt is a super interesting setting, but nobody does it right.
I'm actually baffling to read so many anons going "who asked for this/who cares about ancient egypt?", I hope they're just chuds in disguise. Ancient Egypt is a MASSIVE deal in pop history. Probably not as much in the newest generations and probably less common in hardcore "I like history when it's in my strategy games" compared to normies, but come on.
I like Egypt but I would have liked a game set during the peak of Egypt and not during its waning age.
That would make for very boring battles.
Broze age already suffers from this, Ancient Egypt would be just chariots.
but I like rock slingers and chariots 🙁
It’s stale now tried too much over saturated time period
>Ancient Egypt is a MASSIVE deal in pop history.
He's talking about martial history moron.
Because like all pop history the interest is superficial. Nobody gives a shit about Egypt's military or economy, the two things strategy games depend on, they only care about cool monuments, cool pharaohs, and Exodus. It's an actual case of "you think you do but you don't" and we can see it in the numbers in this game.
As a war game, what does it even have to offer?
Chariots, slings and half-naked guys running around clubbing each other? Bronze age warfare is boring and total war has never done chariot right regardless.
How hard is it to understand that you need a core military fantasy to get people on board? Medieval had the heavy Knight charge running down swaths of peasants and massive sieges of towering fortifications, Shogun has the image of the honerabu Samurai fricking up peasants and scenes of gunpowder mowing down those same Samurai, Rome has the Legions against the Barbarian hoards, etc. People need something to latch on to, a scene that comes to mind when they consider playing the game that makes them think "that's cool, I want to make that happen".
The frick does Egypt have? SOME people might think of Chariot charges, but that's fricking it, and Chariots are fricking lame.
Frick you chariots are cool, but with the rest you're right
All the pop history about egypt is their gigantic monuments. Cities Skylines egypt edition would do way better.
WE
WERE
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that's not what real egyptians look like
That’s a Greek woman but that actress is clearly a black American
that's impressive. you guys learned about that on reddit?
Cleopatra specifically was Greek. Egyptians before Alexander were closer to arabs which are a caucasoid race anon. Blacks don't appear north of the Sahara until colonialism.
Not a single good release since Attila
I like total war 3kingdoms.
Total war games have not been the same since they changed game engine with Empire Total War. It's like they lost some key people or design philosophy that made the games special.
I like this too, since I'm a mark for ROTK but I've had it with character focused TW
too much diplomacy
Best diplomacy in the series. It's a good, but incomplete game.
fricking garbage chinese bait total war game.
CA blatantly said as much too, its hilarious how open they were about this being a game for China.
they did the same with cathay in warhammer 3, was only added to get more players from china and gw hopes new fantasy will sell well in china.
Did it ever occur to you Fantasy not China is just a popular setting even to people outside of China and not China's going to be a playable Army when they revise the old world so they wanted it in the total war will have a video game?
Do you believe the Dynasty Warriors series of Japan is made specifically for China?
i give a shit about dynasty warriors, never played it and don't care about it. no idea why you put this up here as well.
I liked it
I know or care frick all about chink history but it's fun to just wreck entire armies with one chink demigod general. Reminded me of watching those shitty chink historical movies, which I think was the entire point.
I wish westerners had this much fun with their history. Imagine playing as Caesar or Napoleon and just being a gigachad terminator death dealer, killing hundreds of gauls/english on your own
Really good. Probably the best Total War yet.
Really? then why isn't anyone playing it? why are the reviews poor?
Not him but you gotta keep in mind the reviews are inevitably gonna be "worse than they should be" (even if the starting point is low) because trust in CA is low as hell after WH3 and the DLC pricing policy.
>why isn't anyone playing it
Even among people who would be willing to clench their teeth and forgive CA, you also have to consider that WHO THE FRICK wants to pay 60 bucks (or even more for preorder bonuses) for a Saga-sized game even though there already has been good games to buy this year.
>Saga-sized game
what's the yardstick for deciding whether it is a saga game or a mainline one?
If CA are ashamed to be releasing it for £60 it's a Saga + FOTS
>If CA are ashamed
when is CA is ashamed for releasing anything?
It's made by their Sofia B team.
It made me want to replay Rome.
Another win for fantasy chads.
Troy did a lot of things right and it was the best TW since Medieval 2 or Shogun.
pharaoh didn't build up upon that, removed them, the battles are still the same shit since rome 2 without blobbing being fixed, arcade'y unit buffs and modifiers in the middle of the fight, dumb ai and poor balance - in pharaoh heavy armor just dominates but the usual "use tanking line and kill with missiles" still should apply. This engine is fricking moronic and it wasn't made for ranged combat back when Empire came out. They also ended up removing the stuff that made Troy work. To me they dropped the ball hardest with the Black person memnon update and leaving the game in a shitty state without the balancing, polishing patches afterwards. Just showed what to expect in a future and lo, we are getting a game with negrified ramesses who is more related than modern Europeans than anyone from Africa and a game that's just mediocre and not worth the time.
I instantly lost interest when they revealed that only Egypt and Levant are playable areas and focused on a narrow Bronze Age collapse period
They could have made a kino game, spanning the entire Ancient Near East (Including Anatolia, Greece, Babylon) and make easy DLCs set in different eras (for example making a DLC about Neo-Assyria or Rise of Persia).
Just play FoG2 Swifter than Eagles
It's the closest thing you'll get to Bronze Age kino
which was a moronic move on their part. They hVe the technology and assets to give us combined campaign with Troy where they could just modify the factions a little.
They should've focused more on the Assyrians. Those guys were brutal conquerors. Bronze Age era and warfare are extremely interesting, but dont just focus on Egypt. Assyria, Minoa, Crete, they should all be present.
>Shalmaneser III – “If illed the wide plain with the corpses of his warriors. These rebels I impaled on stakes. A pyramid of heads I erected in front of the city."
>Tiglathpileser III -"I hung their king up in front of the gate of his city on a stake. His land , his wife, his sons, his daughters, his property, his treasure I carried off. All of the people I carried off to Assyria.
>Ashurbanipal - "Their dismembered bodies I fed to the dogs, swine, wolves, and eagles, to the birds of the heavens and the fish in the deep. What was left of the feast I ordered them to be cast upon the heaps."
>Sennacherib- “I cut their throats like lambs. I cut off their precious lives as one cuts a string. Like the many waters of a storm, I made their gullets and entrails run down upon the wide earth. My prancing steeds harnessed for my riding, plunged into the streams of their blood as into a river. The wheels of my chariot, which brings low the wicked and the evil, were bespattered with blood and filth. With the bodies of their
warriors I filled the plain, like grass. Their testicles I cut off, and tore the privates like the seeds of a cucumber."
Assyrians were Gigachads of Ancient Near East
They're still around too, and have at various points been a thorn in the side of the Arabs because unlike everyone else they usually fight back rather than rolling over and dying.
I'm not buying it. The last one I played was Three Kingdoms, and despite loving the setting, I hated the game, largely because it brought back mechanics that should have stayed in the games from it's inception, but CA started wanting more and more money and now we end up paying for new games that may have one or two features that were seen previously in games like Med 2 and Rome 1. The game peaked at Med 1, I will never believe otherwise unless CA gets it's head out of it's ass and scraps the Warscape engine, and then begins releasing expansion packs instead of microDLC.