Tim Cain says that piracy doesn't hurt sales and actually can be good because it can preserve old or obscure games.
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Tim Cain says that piracy doesn't hurt sales and actually can be good because it can preserve old or obscure games.
who is this old fat boomer and why do you keep posting him?
>he doesn't know
the absolute state of newbies
He gets fricked in the as
why should i care about his personal life
why should he make sure we know?
He doesn't. He was in the closet until he was forced out.
forced by whomst
leaked gay orgy sex tape
Someone leaked the sex tape of him and Josh Sawyer having gay sex in each other's buttholes.
He's gay btw
>this old fat boomer
These old fat boomers did make good games.
Millennial baseddevs produce shit and lack work ethics.
He's gay and made Fallout.
He comes off as being reasonable and having a lot of insight into the industry and development.
Who is he? Who the frick are you?
I'm the elite hacker on steroids know as Ganker
these same homosexual zoomers who repost queerbait Todd Howard memes don't know who Tim Cain is, holy shit the absolute STATE.
He made Arcanum, nuff said.
I'll never pay for a wienersucker Tim Cain game. I'm glad he's accepted defeat.
If piracy is so good companies wouldn't be going out of their way to prevent it. Simple as. It's called the free market, companies already know what's profitable and what isn't.
Every other argument is cope. You aren't entitled to preserving everything.
>If piracy is so good companies wouldn't be going out of their way to prevent it. Simple as.
Yes because blindly trying to appease shareholders who only care about numbers and who have no fricking idea what consumers actually want when it comes to videogames is always the best policy. That's why Capcom's games are being reviewbombed right now and Baldur's Gate 3 sold out the ass with no DRM
Oh so you agree that piracy does affect sales then? That settles it then. If you want to try pulling some moral argument about how every man has the god given right to pirate as they please at the expense of a companies wants and needs then just say. If you want to do the whole "frick the corpos you make enough money anyway" thing then just do it, stop pushing this bullshit about how piracy is le good.
It clearly affects their profit motives and there's clearly enough will and desire to invest in preventing it. This has been the case for decades now through countless anti-piracy measurements. If the world was actually wohlesome100chungus about piracy and gamers truly did reward games for not having DRM, companies would have caught on by now. But clearly they haven't because it doesn't.
The rest of your post is meaningless bullshit. Capcom is doing better now than ever before. Review bombs don't mean shit, no one cares about random assblasted redditors/steamies.
>Oh so you agree that piracy does affect sales then? That settles it then.
Except I never said piracy didn't affect sales, I said companies and publishers are fricking moronic when it comes to implementing DRM when they're doing it as entities purely beholden to shareholders who only care about numbers and have no idea what regular people actually want when it comes to videogames.
>It clearly affects their profit motives and there's clearly enough will and desire to invest in preventing it.
That doesn't make what they're doing any less moronic or anti-consumer you fricking imbecile. Punishing legitimate, paying customers with draconian DRM is always a shitty move, especially when it's something as stupid as Capcom implementing new DRM into games over a decade old that have already been fricking cracked.
>If the world was actually wohlesome100chungus about piracy and gamers truly did reward games for not having DRM, companies would have caught on by now
Good thing I gave the best and most recent example of that happening with Baldur's Gate 3 which shipped at full price with no DRM and never appeared on Game Pass but is still managing to sell millions of copies. But you just handwaved that away because it's 'meaningless bullshit'. I've never seen this level of corporate bootlicking in my life. Are you going to tell us next microtransactions and $25 skins should be in every game ever made going forward because Activision makes bank on it? Corporate knows best my man, DECADES of market research
t. ard
whatever, youre the one with the guilty conscience. people will way whatever suits them.
entropygayging is cringe.
>If piracy is so good companies wouldn't be going out of their way to prevent it.
many companies don't. basically everyone that sells on gog, for one. also some actively encourage piracy.
https://torrentfreak.com/game-developer-sees-boost-in-sales-after-releasing-official-torrent-200113/
You mean the company that almost went under? Lmao. Again, it's a simple market needs thing. If piracy were so good companies would simply let it happen. Why wouldn't they? Why would they willing shoot themselves in the foot after literal DECADES of market research and experience for them to pour through?
>If piracy were so good companies would simply let it happen.
and many do.
>Why would they willing shoot themselves in the foot after literal DECADES of market research and experience for them to pour through?
ah yes, we all know companies always do what is better in the long run and not what makes them more money for this specific fiscal quarter. that's why games never come out too early and buggy.
Who's paying you?
https://gizmodo.com/the-eu-suppressed-a-300-page-study-that-found-piracy-do-1818629537
https://cdn.netzpolitik.org/wp-upload/2017/09/displacement_study.pdf
TL;DR piracy only SLIGHTLY hurt music, movies and TV series, games get no harm from it
If anything, corporations trying to stop something just means that it's even better than they let on. You think for even a second that these greedy, slimy scumbags have our interests at heart? Remember, the idea of planned obsolescence was built on the foundation of purposely making a product worse, just so you have to rebuy it again. It's demonic.
>MUH FREE MARKET
And yet corporates lobby the government to outlaw circumventions of DRM and copy protection. Where's your free market cope now, hypocrite?
Piracy can only ever exist in a fringe state (5-10% of users). If every normie DL'd shit for free, the industry would collapse. If piracy didn't exist, obscure shit wouldn't get free advertising and discussion. Everything would be AAA blockbusters.
A little adversity is healthy
> corporate apologists flood dangerous wrongthink thread
Piracy is based frick you corpo shills
He's right, but who???
He made Fallout 1, Arcanum, and VTMB. Ganker hates him anyway because he’s gay.
>because all his other games after these were shit
FTFY
Hah, he takes wieners into his ass
Ganker is gay too so he'll fit right in
I don't really care much what a homosexual has to say, whether or not he's right.
It shows that you never listened to your father.
the thing with piracy is most people who pirate was never going to buy it anyways
ok? anyone with three digit IQ already knew that
Piracy is a complicated thing and nobody wants to admit that because the stakes are "corporations own everything" on one side and "people can't profit on their art" on the other.
Copyright in general is a busted system and should have gone the way of the dinosaur for something better when the internet started becoming popular.
Stupid people and the computer illiterate still buy games. It's like a tax punishing their incompetence.
If you want to support a studio then the purchase is like a donation or charity. But if Larry Fink already paid them why should you?
Anyone have that anti-piracy apologist bingo pic?
>Balding
>Fat
>A homosexual
Why is this always the case? I respect Tim a lot as a developer, but why the frick these traits always go together? I used to know a guy who looked pretty much like Tim and he too turned out to be a massive homosexual. Is this shit actually somehow genetic and shares the same gene as being a fat frick and hairless? Does that mean that FEV is able to cure homosexualry due to it working by repairing genes it deems broken?
>man in his 50s isn't fit or has a a head full of hair
Woah, I guess every old guy must be a homosexual? Did that man turn out to be your father, be careful about it, it might actually be genetics.
>50s
>Old
Are you fricking underage? He looks way more than 50, and if your entire family line wasn't just a bunch of bald tallow golems - you would know that old does not equal bald for most people.
Tim Cain is 43, look it up.
>43
That's even worse holy shit.
I wasn't saying that he isn't in his 50s, i was saying that he looks nowhere near being in his 50s, and in the worst way possible. I talked to 60-70 year olds who looked younger than him for fricks sake
>I talked to 60-70 year olds who looked younger than him for fricks sake
>be a codemonkey
>don't exercise
>bad diet
>hours sleepless while crunching
gee, how come he doesn't look 20 year old in his 50s?
he's also a literal homosexual which does cut one's lifespan
no way...he looks 60
He's 59 this year. See those rings around his eyes, Ganker? That's you by 35 the way you spend 24/7 on your computer, lmao.
wouldnt that make him like 10 when they started development of fallout
he was very bright back in the day
His mother is very proud
Low test.
Premier fat frick Gabe Newell said it best; piracy isn't a pricing issue, it's a service issue, which is part of the reason Steam is so wildly successful. There have been dozens of games over the years I could've easily pirated but preferred to buy on Steam because it was giving me the better experience; workshop integration, achievements, saves synced to the cloud, being able to reinstall in one click anytime I want, the list goes on. If you're fricking your customers up the ass with shit like Denuvo/limited time activations, I'm more inclined to pirate your game because piracy is giving me an objectively better experience
99% of older shit, ie, stuff released 7th gen and back, should be free. If your gonna rerelease, cool, do it. Just let ppl play older shit that won't get a remake or rerelease for free.
No one is gonna care if Operation Logic Bomb gets played for free. And honestly, the amount of ppl playing old roms is like 1% of gamers. Nugays don't care, normies don't care, FIFACOD don't care.
It's literally just a question of what gives the best and easiest experience. People are willing to pay for comfort.
If I walked up to you and offered you a game and said-
>You can get this game totally for free or you can pay me for it, it's your choice. The only difference is if you want to pay me or not
Most people are going to just pick it up for free, because no shit why spend money for no reason other than being charitable?
But if I said
>You can pay me for this game or get it for free, but if you want it for free I want you to go through this obstacle course first.
Now some people are just going to pay instead, because their time and effort is more valuable than the money; and the people who get it for free were probably people who weren't going to pay for it anyway.so they are willing to work for it.
if the paid experience is better and more comfortable than the piracy experience people are willing to pay, this is why DRM's that punish paying customers make no sense, because it just makes piracy more attractive, not less.
hes based a couple of times but hes cringe more often than not.
did he ever talk about this shit and why it was so utterly dreadful in those video blogs of his?
he blame shifts most of it but hes a cuck so it sounds accurate
>devs are moronic and dont know how to do anything
>Tim asks for an inventory system
>devs say that will take 4 months
>tim: wtf that should take like 45 minutes
>devs: no because it will break the whole game
>tim: wtf
>Outer wilds in almost its entirety was as such
>Tim: lets do this
>devs: no
>Tim unceremoniously walks away
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>6:45
>over-caution leads to less risk that equals to less soul
this statement encapsulates what is wrong with the majority of AAA gaming
>Over-caution, less risk, less soul
Women
On one hand I get it, theyre 2 years in and you cand just throw some new shit in your game yippy skippy, on the other hand Tim offers to just do it himself proving it wont take 2-4 weeks, and hes one of the very few reasons youre even allowed to say "From the CREATORS of Fallout" so you need to show a little frickin respect. Through Tims few videos about The Outer Worlds, you can conclude that most everything that went wrong came from a bunch of new programmers and staff who didnt seem to listen to their bosses, and bosses that refused to put their foot down. When a guy like Tim Cain is being the hardheaded butthole of your company, the writing is on the wall for how lame and pozzed the whole office is
I think my favorite part of that story is:
>”I will code this myself if you don’t want to do it”
>”noooooooooo! Thats my job! Leave me alone and stop triggering me I cant even right now!”
>itl take 4 weeks
>gimme an hour
>NOOOOOOO
>programmers superior: NOOOOOOO can you do 2 weeks?
if Tim kept at it he could have talked them down to 3 days lol. How do you screech that you need a month and then return with "well, we could do it in half the time"
he doesn't talk about it much if at all because people try to bait him into revealing stuff about tow2
>preserve old or obscure games.
Imagine a world where once sales reach a certain low, a small and quiet loophole or copyright period ends (early) so people can legally pirate a game for this purpose. So many hours into making a game, don't want to waste that do you?
i dont care what this homosexual says.
you either make another fallout/arcanum game or stfu
based tim cain
he should also note that the hyper-focus on Games As A Service means that a game can't be preserved even with piracy, though. All these Android Apps will be gone like farts in the wind...
MAKE ANOTHER BLOODLINES GAME YOU FAT FRICKING homosexual NO I DON'T CARE IF IT'S NOT POSSIBLE GO POLISH SOME KNOBS AND GET IT FUNDED
I don’t care how much of a homosexual this guy is I like his games and he has interesting takes about the vidya industry
I love this thread. Ganker contrarians hate him so much because he's gay that they took an anti-piracy stance. You are literally a cattle
> You are literally a cattle
They are. That's why it's so easy to manipulate them. Remember Atomic Heart? A typical Eastern European slop but Ganker contrarians bought it to own the israelites. Notice now that no one is talking about this game anymore.
People brought atomic heart because they wanted to frick the robots. Don't be dumb.
*bought.
Him being gay is irrelevant, Ganker is just so contrarian that there will always be people who are anti-piracy no matter who the thread is about. Ganker is pretty much the only board that's dumb and underage enough to seethe at pirates too, it's fricking bizarre.
>meanwhile had his company go bankrupt because of underselling and piracy
Is this dementia?
Piracy+file sharing is the only reason obscure JP-only games got popular. Devs should be thanking the pirates for the word of mouth advertising. Especially devs whose games were on easy to emulate Nintendo and Sony consoles
What is it with the fad to "morally" justify piracy? You are getting something several dozen people worked on for free, what else is there to say?
The hilarity is that people who pirate games are still very unhappy.
i'm not a homosexual who tries to justify piracy with limp-wristed moral excuses, i'm a homosexual who wants to buy DRM-free games but can't because some israelite somewhere thinks venezuelans living in poverty would buy their $70 games if piracy was off the table
If buying it doesn't mean I own it, pirating it doesn't mean I'm stealing it, simple as. Frick off and die in your own shit sarr
You'd think there'd be countless studies about how piracy is super bad. But there aren't. They've even suppressed studies because it didn't fit the piracy bad narrative.
Anyone who isn't a corporate bugman is fine with preserving old and obscure media.