Can someone explain to me what the FRICK he meant by this? What exactly is EGS curing?
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Tim Sweeney: Epic Games Store is the "cure" to the "disease" infecting the industry
Can someone explain to me what the FRICK he meant by this? What exactly is EGS curing?
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Monopoly.
Valve deserved the first spot, there's no reason to compete when the first in line is actually the best.
>BUT-
Steam Input and Proton funding, your arguments are worthless.
The only monopoly in this thread is your monopoly on idiocy
"We got to stop the Monopoly"
>Creates a monoply of exclusive titles
What monopoly?
Offering a superior service is not a monopoly
>We want to cure the Steam Monopoly by making our own worse Monopoly.
If steam was a monopoly then why did I have games on multiple other store fronts before EGS existed?
making sure china runs everything for good
China doesn't even run itself.
The need to pay for games.
>CEO of a huge company
>talks like a 15 years old during a high school project presentation
https://twitter.com/ImmatureGamerX/status/1709216675730542972
he literally wrote the engine and still works on it
i'd rather him be in charge of the company than the EA guy
Curing the world from the unreal disease. I knew he was a quakebro all along.
what a moron
Conceptually he's right but ultimately egs is no better than steam. It's just another shitty drm where you own nothing. If he toppled a monopoly, nothing would improve.
>make your games EG exclusives
>nobody plays it, or even knows it exists
Just ask Telltale how great EGS is.
now post how timmy got BTFO by the devs from Dusk
but thats friendly fire
Telltale is trash and has been dying for a long time nothing to do with timmy
this. Those morons asked the same price as Quantic Dream or Supermassive for a tenth of the content.
I thought Telltale died years ago.
They did, and came back but no one seems to know they made a new batman game and an expanse game. So now they are dying again.
More like nobody gives a fricking shit about an expanse game, batman audience doesn't want visual novels because they're not the same walking dead normies.
Wolf among us 2 is the only thing they got going honestly, they just make ass games with ass ips and fumble if they get a good ip, insist on episodic shit when that fad has looooong since passed, and their writing just isn't very good, or animation, or voice acting outside wolf among us, or anything its all pretty mid usually
Anon, but the Expanse game is already out. Did you even know? I sure as frick didn't until I heard about layoffs.
EGS is a black hole.
I really hope for all american devs to unionize
that way we can finally be rid of their brainrot agenda driven trashslop
I like how even the journo is subtly saying "wtf is Sweeney smoking" just by saying one word. That 'supposedly' right there just shows they're not just blindly going along with whatever he has to say.
He literally thought that he does not need to give a frick about user experience because devs and publishers who jump ship would force gamers to buy only from Epic Game Store.
He is now butthurt because he actually has to do something else than have business meals with other corporate executives to access consumer wallets.
https://www.thegamer.com/epic-boss-says-developers-win-game-store-wars-not-consumers/
That's what Steam did though. You'd buy a game on CD and it would force you to install the piece of shit that was Steam. Then later, Steam introduced regional pricing for all games (not just for what localizer gatekeepers decided to offer) and got a lot of cash from third-worlders
valve making their own games exclusive to steam is vastly different than epic taking third party developers with exclusivity contracts; but you already knew that this argument has been made a hundred times but you still post FUD nonsense cuz you're a fricking chink shill.
he fricked up the letter. it should have said strongly-worded letter to follow. for shame.
>this homie never sent a letter in telegraphese before
frickin zoomer, you pay per character for a telegram; you always cut the fat. you're a thousand years too early to be talking to me about telegrammetry.
lolwut. so? if i was sending a strongly-worded letter to my nemesis, i wouldn't skimp on it, i'd go full-hog and really let that fricker know what i was thinking of him.
>That's what Steam did though. You'd buy a game on CD and it would force you to install the piece of shit that was Steam. Then later, Steam introduced regional pricing for all games (not just for what localizer gatekeepers decided to offer) and got a lot of cash from third-worlders
The publisher chose to do that, not steam. The publisher decided not to put anything on the disc steam has nothing to do with those decisions and never did. Why are you blaming Steam for things that publishers and developers chose to do?
That's what I always say, this autist is UNABLE to put himself in the shoes of a consumer, only the developer. Maybe he has never bought a game in his life or had the pleasure of playing a video game to understand what people feel when they decide to spend money to access this type of entertainment.
You are probably way too young to remember anything if you post garbage like this.
You have absolutely no idea who this guy was in mid 90's.
Yeah and John Romero was a different guy in the 90s as well but now he's a mouthbreather.
It's been three decades, moron.
That anon is right that Epic was making one "gamers bad" post after another when they launched EGS. Not sure what they were aiming for.
It was a bid to appeal to publishers.
Unfortunately, after EGS came out almost everyone came fricking crawling back to Steam anyway.
The mid 90s was 30 years ago
People can change a lot in that kind of time
I hate how he cleverly framed all of his propaganda as supportive of "developers" when he was really only targeting PUBLISHERS. The people that actually make the decisions on how and where to sell a product. To say what Timmy Tencent is doing is skeezy, is an understatement. He was drawing lines with the work of developers to try and disrupt steam so his store could become the new steam. He kept talking about taking out the middleman but he was negotiating solely with the middleman and a lot of developers ate shit because of it. They had no choice where their game ended up, they didnt' finance it and had no publishing rights to it. Obviously most devs want maximum eyeballs on their work, I can't imagine many developers enjoying PC exclusivity wars. The only guy who seemed positively enthusiastic was Randy Pitchford.
i'm sure the studios also took a huge amount of shit for it
absolutely no developers ate shit because that's not how fricking game dev works you r/frickepic shitposter, the devs NEVER have a say in where their games go, but you're the kind of moron who thinks a Tencent investment means complete chinese ownership so yeah
I think what he means is that people aimed their anger and criticisms at developers(companies), not publishers.
He's right tho? Battle.net worked fine for 2 decades. Consoomer will use whatever is required to get their slop.
It's a shame too cause original Battle.net was pretty comfy. Yeah it was "another" launcher but at least it worked exactly as it needed to. Which is a lot more then could be said for Uplay, Bethesda or fricking Minecraft's launcher. Now everything except Steam is so bloated. And even Steam isn't immune to it.
>He's right tho? Battle.net worked fine for 2 decades. Consoomer will use whatever is required to get their slop.
Battle.net only worked because of the perceived value of the blizzard brand, once they started to add activision slop it broke the idea that it was a premium game only service, once blizzard started releasing terrible fricking game after terrible game (mainly awful wow expansions) it started to break the blizzdrones out of their stupor. Don't get me wrong there are still a ton of mazed morons playing blizzard games but since most of them are awful engagement simulators that are only concerned about metrics and not how fun they are to play you'll see more people just forget that blizzard even exists. Blizzcon hasn't sold out for the first time this year, keep watching the death spiral.
EGS and Unreal are the disease.
That's why he is killing Epic with no survivors.
He can start by killing himself.
The prick.
you mean esg not egs, right?
epic is both
The disease is Steam being bigger and more important, the cure is an Epic monopoly.
the disease is microtransactions and live service models
epic IS the disease
Reminder:
>https://twitter.com/galyonkin/status/1708836762716398033
>https://twitter.com/joekreiner/status/1703859925565297119
Both lead devs/directors of EGS have literally left the company at the same time.
You know what that means.
>Now, Epic Games is on its way to transforming from a game developer, engine creator, and publisher into a platform - Epic 5.0. I am not a good fit for this new version of Epic; it requires people of a different kind.
That's the most subtle "Tim you moron stop chasing after Steam's tail" post I've ever read.
Epic's funding allows devs to follow their vision instead of making soulless drivel for Steam.
>vision
>of a shitty game on a platform no one uses
God I fricking LOVE Remedy's vision.
Alan Wake except half the game you have to play as a sheboon.
THANK YOU Tim. ESG might be gone but I see EGS is no different.
not a chud but I was so disappointed to see that we have to play as some random chick in an alan wake game
>their vision
Making a Roblox knockoff?
they literally just are trying to copy the success of Roblox and steam but do so poorly, stealing no customers for the markets they're in as a result.
I guess Epic can still afford shills.
He means those no good evil monopolies like Valve, Apple, and Google taking 30% and having APIs that work on their stores only, such terrible locking down ecosystems
But consoles are exempt, their 30% is good and locked down ecosystems can stay, because he says so
It means he's full of himself.
>Can someone explain to me what the FRICK he meant by this?
Buzzwords.
Epic is going to do whatever it can to attract attention and be an "alternative" to Steam. No, this doesn't mean actually making the storefront good or being fair to anyone on it. It means creating a bunch of news and hype.
There is no "cure to the disease" going on over at Epic. They're just going to sit on their thumbs and wait for Steam to do something newsworthy, then post a reaction as the "cure" to the ongoing problem. There just hasn't been much newsworthy recently for them to take advantage about.
there was a little drama a while ago when downgrading manually via the steam console stopped working, but tldr it was just them doing changes to the system so that devs had more control and it was never intended to disable it.
i guess them replacing cs:go with cs2 instead of making it a new release was kinda shitty.
both of those things are things timmy tencent would do too so he didn't call them out.
He is speaking in speech perfectly crafted for dumb minds such as those of right wingers and conservative. Words like "disease" and being the "cure" for something "degenerate" ticks all the boxes in their underdeveloped brains. What I'm trying to say here is that he's just speaking to children.
but right wingers prefer steam.
ESG
slimy little rat tim sweeney with a tiny weeny
those threads were top tier. throw in epic's lawyers misfiling documents, Tim having troubles getting his switch together, and you had a recipe for a good time.
>tfw didn't save all the court files when they were accidently released
feels kinda bad, there was so much stink to repost for years
Is Epic Chinese or American?
American with 40% owned by Tencent which gets them seats on Epics board of directors
He made his choice years ago when Epic abandoned PC to suck console dick. Why'd he even bother to crawl back?
Because it became a profitable space and wants his store on more then just PCs, but phones and other devices to pursue metaverse shit with fortnite
Epic screwed over the Unreal Tournament fanbase by cancelling the Unreal Tournament 4 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.
DO NOTHING
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customers having a voice
I'd respect Timmy more if he just outright stated his intentions instead of all this pussyfooting around acting like a moral crusader.
He'll only do that under oath in court kek.
Apple gaped his ass wide open.
>What exactly is EGS curing?
Competition. There are too many pesky storefronts such as GOG out there right now hindering Tim's David vs. Goliath narrative, so they must be killed off using anticompetitive practices such as buying off exclusivity and an unsustainably low cut of sale prices. Natural competition must die for the sake of Tim's narrative.
sounds like he's gone off the rails, the financial troubles must have him really shook
Good, nothing better than a narcissist piece of shit getting his just deserts
How fricked is Ueda's game bros?
I know he is personally triggered by 30% Steam/GOG cuts because he's autistic and thinks companies should profit no more than absolutely necessary.
Its over
I think he just wants what Steam has. He knew Fortnite can't last forever and he thought he could make a real Steam competitor, then live off a percentage of games being sold on his store like Gabe.
Then he should have focused on making a good store and good platform. He did neither.
It's more beneficial to me to just pirate.
>know your ass is on a clock
>still do basically nothing to improve your store for YEARS
Fricker was asking for it.
> WATASHI WA
> WATASHI WA
> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
Continuously harping on Valve and Steam undermines the necessity of EGS in the first place by making it sound like the highest purpose of its existence is solely to dethrone the king, not offer anything of value to customers. This is why it is absolutely, 100% impossible for anyone to ever defend EGS in any capacity whatsoever without reflexively mentioning Steam.
>another boomer ranting about Steam
I'm tired.
I already dont trust Epic but this entire shitshow just convinced me to never even think of buying from EGS because it seems like a storefront on the brink of getting shuttered.
of course it's going to get shuttered. instead of investing in a better experience for the poor bastards who actually use the fricking store, the pissed money away with frivolous lawsuits, insipid marketing ploys, and forced exclusivity. Tim deserves to be fired as a CEO.
>fails to create a platform worth a frick
>WAAAHHHHHHH STEAM WAHHHHH GABEN WAHHH I DONT WANNA PAY APPLE THEIR CUT
this moron would be doing everyone a favor playing in traffic
I dislike the Steam monopoly and the 30% cut they take on my games as well, but nothing will make me run into the arms of the chinese.
Publish your game on your own website. Like the good ol' days.
And what else? Put them on little CDs that get packaged with physical gaming magazines? Sell floppy disks out of my garage?
I wish we could go back to those soulful times
I was joking. But I bet there are still around MMOs that are not on steam and you need to search for them and download their client on their website.
yea
I played aion 2 years ago and had to download it through the ncsoft launcher which I had to download from their website even though aion was on steam back in the day
Original Secret World can still be played if you go through your Funcom account and download the client, as long as you had a key for the original game instead of playing the shitty legends reboot that was forced on everyone on Steam.
just make a good game
Starsector still sells plentiful
there's plenty of leeching devs who complain about steam's cut but won't put their money where their mouth is and pay for their own game's distribution
It's not just distribution itself - Valve provides a lot of tools to make it easier, patching, organizing etc.
Valve does a lot to warrant its cut.
the store front itself also has some interesting features and it's probably the most painless online shopping experience.
take a look at the steam labs page for example.
>I dislike the Steam monopoly and the 30% cut they take
Steam doesn't have a monopoly, you do know mono means one right? The very existence of Epic's store, GoG, etc means there's more than one, moron. They're just the best and that's the fault of their competition for not providing competition. Also Steam's 30% cut isn't some crazy high outlier, it's the fricking standard, literally every other digital storefront including the like of MS, PS and Nintendo take the same amount and brick-and-mortar stores take even higher. You're a goddamn moron.
He means the cure to the disease infecting the industry is to give him more money
If you think he's referring to anything besides gamepass then you're just wrong homie.
The disease is a lack of a monopoly. The """cure""" is an Epic monopoly.
It's bullshit. Tim Sweeney is a fricking moron, who's trying to burn down the PC industry because he finally got it through his thick skull he could've made money, but squandered it all these years, before building up his golden goose, Fortnite.
how does buying exclusivity and having a terrible store app cure the game industry
EGS truly is the final solution to videogames
>seething on internet everyday
When this homosexual is gonna stop ?
When fortnite dies out and he'll have to shut down his abortion of a game store.
Why cant Tim just get off the internet like what the hell man.
At least Gaben just lives on his boat playing with his 'eck and doesn't feel the need to shitpost daily on X (formerly twitter).
do you think gaben is the dude posting the dick-on-deck posts? would be hilarious if it was.
when is genshin leaving egs jail and comes to steem
genshin isn't in EGS jail, it's just not on steam so they don't have to give valve a cut of the MTX.
plenty of people play it on PC through its unobtrusive dedicated launcher and they get the entirety of what those players pay. if they put it on steam they'd lose most PC players to the steam version and make less money for little gain.
most of their revenue comes from phone players anyway.
this homie really thinks hes some kind of industry leader genius because he lucked out with one game by copying another game
A monopoly that doesn't exist that they're trying to make themselves as a result
Its just marketing speak to get positive SEO. Not that deep.
Tim is right and the latest Dota patch proved it, fricking abandoned game with bugs even during "championship" games
CS2 is soulless
Meh
I still think he should make it so games developed using Unreal can only be sold on the EGS. This means that either more games will be available on the EGS exclusively and flop or fewer games will be developed using UE.
Even Tim's not dumb enough to do that, especially with UE getting a spike in interest following the self-destruction of Unity.
I feel like that'd be a lawsuit waiting to happen
GOG is a better steam competitor than EGS.
Bit of ego tripping there.
The moment that one of the exclusive jumped ship to steam or went on pirate website is the moment it's over for EGS.
Everybody learnt that they can just wait for a year or just pirate the game.
Epic and Steam are both cancer. GOG is the only store that i approve of.
>Steam
>cancer
explain how
nta but it probably has to do with drm.
GOG is cancer too, they bend the knee to the Chinese
I hate diseases so I am all for Epic, btw.
EGS is killing epic to save the gaming industry.
he's just desperate because his shit store is failing and he went all-in on it. the last words of a dead man.
It's REALLY fricking simple I don't know how this is so hard to understand.
NEVER trust a business or service that doesn't even try to make money.
That hero complex he's got is gonna bite him in the ass even moreso than it already did.
You are not a hero. You are a billionaire who wants more market share
Epic already abandoned the PC gaming market and declared it dead once, no reason they won't do it again.
I definitely prefer any private company over one backed by investors, especially Chinese ones.
My personal favorite
I always fricking love it when smarmy corpo lawyers get MOGGED by judges, who they presumed to be techilliterate boomers, that know their shit. Same with the FTC vs Pajeetsoft trial.
The "disease" is Valve has "his" money and the cure is convincing you that his snake oil is better then his competitor's snake oil. So tired of anyone listening to these CEOs who have a literal timestamped (calculated to your relative timezone for your fricking convenience) papertrail and yet here we are.
Tim's daily seethe about valve and steam
consumer reviews and games having the ability to organize and combine their opinions on a game for all of our sakes. EGS advertises itself as publisher first, consumer second. Steam is consumer first, publisher second. Tencent is worth 430 times what valve is worth. I've never installed the Chinese cyber espionage platform so I'm not familiar with how its sales are. But once they manage to outspend and outmaneuver steam and become market topdog, egs will stop with the free games and sales.
Ive redeemed nearly every free game EGS has offered and still have not spent a single cent on their storefront and never will, but thanks for the games, Tim!
By the way, I haven't spent one single hour playing any of the games I redeemed, but I still did it anyways lol
I've played a free EGS game once and then I got annoyed by how shitty the epic launcher is and never again.
I'm convinced Timmy doesn't want to put in the minimum effort of copying the best features of Steam because doing so would be admitting somebody did something better than you. It's all ego.
I wonder what happened to all of those people "predicting" EGS is the future for gaming? I know that that fat frick troon Jim Sterling thought that at one point.
Like the average person buying games they probably forgot about it
Tim is short on cash and can write the checks for it anymore.
Though in Sterling's case it's just being a contrarian like always.
i dont speak hebrew, can someone give me a qrd of whats happening? from here it looks like this moron whole argument was "we are not steam, come to us" and cheap moneyhats and thought it would work on the consumer
Its Tim lying out of his ass again
pretty much.
tim bullshits a lot trying to sound like he's trying to improve the gaming market space for everyone, when he really just wants to own a platform as lucrative as steam, and to sell microtransactions in fortnite without giving a third-party a cut of it.
EGS didn't take off as a platform, so now he's trying to make fortnite itself into a platform for other games.
gamer entitlement. game hoarding. antisemitism against developers. those are the three main ones.