I can't believe Disney failed to bend the law for the 13495rd time again. Serves them right lol, I'll make a rape themed RPG maker h-game about mickey.
Not that anon but it is true, at least acording to Wikipedia: >There have been multiple attempts to argue that certain versions of Mickey Mouse are in fact in the public domain. In the 1980s, archivist George S. Brown attempted to recreate and sell cels from the 1933 short "The Mad Doctor", on the theory that they were in the public domain because Disney had failed to renew the copyright as required by current law. >In 1999, Lauren Vanpelt, a law student at Arizona State University, wrote a paper making a similar argument,Vanpelt points out that copyright law at the time required a copyright notice specify the year of the copyright and the copyright owner's name. The title cards to early Mickey Mouse films "Steamboat Willie", "Plane Crazy", and "Gallopin' Gaucho" do not clearly identify the copyright owner, and also misidentify the copyright year. However, Vanpelt notes that copyright cards in other early films may have been done correctly, which could make Mickey Mouse "protected as a component part of the larger copyrighted films". >Because of the Copyright Term Extension Act of the United States (sometimes called the "Mickey Mouse Protection Act" because of extensive lobbying by the Disney corporation) works such as the early Mickey Mouse cartoons would remain under copyright until 2024. >Beginning in 2022, several Republican lawmakers vowed to oppose any future attempt to extend the copyright term due to Disney's opposition of the Florida Parental Rights in Education Act. >On January 1, 2024, the copyrights of the first three animated Mickey Mouse cartoons were expired, and they entered the public domain. They are the silent cartoons Plane Crazy and The Gallopin' Gaucho, and the sound cartoon Steamboat Willie.
That's what happened? Surprising, a company as huge as Disney is fully capable of bending the law to retain micky mouse, if they really cared about it. If Microsoft can defund the IRS then Disney can keep Mickey Mouse, the only reason they didn't is because I guess it wasn't important enough to them.
Disney made an enemy of Republicans with the shit they tried pulling in Florida so they've been ignoring all their lobbying. Yes, this is a case of go woke go broke.
They didn't. They decided it would be in their best interest to set copyright for a very specific version of mickey to expire today, and it's very likely an attempt to bait people into making shit with the non-expired version of mickey, and guaranteeing the extension of the modern, more recognized version of mickey by saying "Look at all the people trying to profit off of our copyrighted material? This is why we need the extensions!"
They fought the expiry EVERY time until this most recent one, they were on thin ice, don't get me wrong, but it's exceptionally odd.
>nd it's very likely an attempt to bait people into making shit with the non-expired version of mickey
this is all it is. they don't use the old version of mickey anymore so they have no reason to keep it. morons and homosexuals will think this means they can use any version of mickey, including the modern one. this is where they will strike.
They also massively pissed off Republican politicians, the people who would usually be the ones siding with a massive corporation abusing copyright law. They probably understood that they had no hope of continuing it after that.
>thinking repubs don't love troon shit because of controlled opposition, and that politicians don't love oodles of money from bribes to help bend copyright law
Yeah, that's my point. Disney pushed away their only hope of continuing to endlessly extend the copyright laws.
>the people who would usually be the ones siding with a massive corporation abusing copyright law
Democrats are the biggest corpo shills now and it's the republicans that have been having the most hearings against corpos lately
>I can't believe Disney failed to bend the law for the 13495rd time again.
Too many people were against it. The guy that runs the copyright office wants to REDUCE copyright duration by default back down to 20 years and instead allow companies who have a continued interest in the copyright to renew it every 5 years up to 70. Mainly as a way to solve the problem with over 99% of all copyrights being effectively abandoned but still legally protected.
Mickey's name in Steamboat Willie is Mickey, so yes you can use his name. The only thing you have to worry about is Disney still owns the trademark for Mickey Mouse. You can probably avert that by specifying that your work is not associated with Disney in any way shape or form, but you do need to be careful of using Mickey in your logo or title or any other thing that might confuse the consumer.
Nothing should ever go in the pu7blic domain. If a company worked hard to create a character it should stay with them and other should be unable to use it unless said companies agrees to make it public.
Disney built it's empire on exploiting public domain and their output has gotten much worse after they ran out of European literature and fairytales to easily adapt.
Companies don't create anything. People do. The people who created Mickey Mouse are dead. Why should the company have exclusive rights to profit off their creation forever when they did nothing but acquire the copyright.
Because they still own the rotting flesh and bones of their employees. They each signed a contract of eternal servitude of their own free will in exange for money.
I would argue the more popular something is, the quicker it should become public domain. I'd say 40 years is plenty of time for something to transfer in the public domain if there is enough interest. Once you reach certain level of social impact, the property permiates in such a way that it's foolish for any company or person to bogart it like it's the last sip of water. Shit like Star Trek, Star Wars, Doctor Who and Lord of the Rings should all belong to the Public at this point.
Answer:I don't know
Probably have some sort of procedure in the courts whenever, like a defense for a copyright claim or simply petitioning the courts that it's in the publ
Dumb frogposter, if all classic fairy tales that Disney used for it's movies are in public domain then it's only fair for Mickey a 1928 mouse to be in public domain too
>Nothing should ever go in the pu7blic domain. If a company worked hard to create a character it should stay with them and other should be unable to use it unless said companies agrees to make it public.
Frick off cuck
So what, companies should be able to drag their IPs with them to the grave?
Absurd, if they're not around to do anything about it then their shit would effectively be public domain anyway
Public domain was created to protect the consumer so we don't get 8 Spider-Man movies every year. It just got abused to the point where companies can go after you for using centuries old characters without permission.
That makes no fricking sense, so what if 80 companies want to make their own Spiderman. It would be on them to pay for the production and advertising, the fact that companies can monopolize on idea's (safe-keeping them) is worst for the consumer. If 80 different people could make it then that would be better, maybe someone makes a really good version of that same movie, and what's the difference between some company's making different * movies and companies making infinite dumbass sequels.
Public domain was not created, it's the default. Ideas are literally free. Copyright was created to promote the creation of information by giving creators the right to their work for enough time so they can profit off it.
There is no difference between a corporations and the government. One hand washes other and most major companies are made up by people who worked in the government. Government does what corporations want. Most people would rightfully think it is silly to say that the government should have any say over what media and art is produced. Yet they are fooled by copyright law to think that it is totally cool for the government's butt buddies to have that power. And no, copyright does not in any way protect small artists, it's far too expensive for such people to utilize it and copyright was originally conceived as a method of bottle necking to prevent smaller competitors from entering the book printing business.
everyone who actually created mickey mouse has been dead for over 50 years. corporate suits that have had zero hand in the creation of these characters have about as much right to use them as you and me. stop dickriding megacorporations you little fricking weasel
>If a company worked hard to create a character
The company didn't work hard to create shit. They simply bought everything after Walt died. It's also run by israelites now, and Walt hated israelites. If anything, it going public domain falls more in line with the wishes of the original creator who actually worked hard to make it in the first place.
The rest of it is just parasites leeching off Walt's genius and success.
You can still make all of those things? Why are people on twitter acting like public domain is a limited thing and it's been "wasted" on shitty horror games and movies? Anyone can still make whatever they want with it.
Public domain fanfiction and zombie character fanfiction by companies are equally worthless. Original work by original creator(s) is all that matters; if it gets reprinted in different forms or has adaptations that adhere to the source material then that's OK.
I'd probably be more inclined to agree with you had modern Disney not been proving why it actually should lose the copyright to it's own characters. Until they get their shit together, it's time to let someone else bring the Mickey Mouse magic back into households worldwide
I miss the old internet. I miss the 2006 internet.. back when corporations had no influence on the internet and copyright wasn't strictly adhered to. People shared shit for free. Back when YouTube was still free and there was no cringe content creators. Now everything you got to pay a fine you got to listen to some gay rules you have to affirm to shit.
there is no downside to public domain
assuming the company that still "owns" whatever went into public domain is still producing something good, not only are you getting good shit from there, anything made by not-the-company will need to be half-decent to actually get traction/sell so there's now 1 + x amount of good shit coming from a bunch of shit
and if the company was producing nothing (good) then we inevitably get good shit from people who aren't the comapny
downside is more slop to tune out like day 1 horror slop like this but oh well, still overall a win
once something enters the public domain is when theres a chance for actual passionate fans to make something good >but there will also be shit
yeah, 99% of anything is shit, this is known. i'll take 99% shit over 100% shit anyway
Walt Disney worked hard to create it, after he died his company got taken over by israelites who held him and his work in contempt. Realistically it should have gone into public domain right then and there.
>Draw a humanoid mouse >People who didn’t draw that humanoid mouse should have exclusive rights to all art that vaguely looks likes the humanoid mouse long after the original creator is dead
Frick off, moron
Because that's hard and requires drawing and animating a lot of unique assets. Alternately you can just make one scary mickey mouse model and put it in a stock Unreal Engine level and youre on the front page of Kotaku.
i would like that but if we're being the story's first line says "from the 1930's" while steamboat willie was 1928, so at best it would take two years for that to become public domain. i know i'm putting realism into a story about a strange cartoon of mickey walking for 9 minutes but whatever
>the next day, Detective Bowser investigates the crime scene >the cause of death appears to be crushing >and there's debris everywhere from the damaged red brick balcony above, but how? >there's nothing in the alley to climb >nobody could jump that high..........right?
You're probably going to be over 70 years old when mario goes public. Unless there's something about japanese copyright law that I don't know, which there likely is.
It's going to have to be DK, Mario the carpenter and Pauline for a bit. We don't get plumbing or proper. No Luigi until '83.
You're probably going to be over 70 years old when mario goes public. Unless there's something about japanese copyright law that I don't know, which there likely is.
Unless shit changes, chances are most of us on here will be dead before Mario comes close to entering Public Domain. And you can bet your ass Nintendo will fight tooth and nail to keep Mario's copyright.
Well, you can always watch the originals. Sherlock Holmes must be having gay sex in your favorite netflix series, but this doesn't mean he has always been a flaming homo.
>character known for being a good natured, happy go lucky jolly fella is suddenly evil >baits people who think it's "official"
I bet that all those evil winnie the pooh watchers initially thought it was made by Disney or something, normalgays are this moronic.
it's not that they thought it was official, it's that they thought that disney lost the rights to winnie the pooh and now people could make le epic heckin bacon parodies of their beloved cartoon character. Most of the morons that it was pandering to don't even know that the copyright that went public was the original version of the characters, and specifically NOT the disney ones. Normalgays are so incredibly moronic that they will believe whatever half truth or lie they are told, so long as it SOUNDS believable.
Horror panders to the lowest common denominator. It takes the least amount of creativity to make something horror and it's guaranteed to get a reaction.
Big IPs are pretty much never horror because horror is absolutely slop no matter the medium, be it video games, movies, TV shows, doesn't matter. Horror is almost always slop. Taking something that isn't horror and turning it into horror is a very easy "twist" on the idea to try and sell it. So it isn't that they are picking horror because they like horror so much, they just always pick horror because the original is almost never horror, since horror is full of so much slop.
Hope someday abandonware as a whole becomes free to access as default
There's a lot of games that companies will just not sell to you but still get pissy when you pirate them.
Shit like this makes you wonder why they even bother with withholding these characters from public use.
All they make is the same shit over and over again.
There's no real precedence for this. How exactly could they prove that anyway? Even if this game came out TODAY, they wouldn't have been potentially profiting off of it until after it was legal to do so.
>The public domain is for making the same hacky, uninspired horror dogshit everytime a character becomes free use
A few more of these, and people will be against public domain
Christopher Tolkien did a good job, the problems started once he died and the IP passed into the hands of Tolkien's grandchildren who have zero personal connection to his work and just see it as a fat paycheck.
No, normal people know they can just abstain from playing lazy games they don't like, only an idiot thinks the appropriate response is to attack the concept of PD
The problem is two-fold.
Copyright doesn't work the same way it did 100 years ago since corporations continue to milk the same franchises indefinitely. And with the advent of computers and the internet every braindead moron can produce whatever content they want. What you're left with is NOBODY is actually producing good content, just mindless slop, and if anyone actually does have something good to make it will be drowned out by all the other bullshit. This isn't the public domain's fault, it's just the current state of our shitty society.
Public domain helps, consider a lot of movie or even game remakes exist to cash in on a known property. Now consider everyone can use said property. Any big studio hoping to cash in on a name like that has to really try to do better because any other studio can try their own hand for free.
Big studios don't even put effort into their original products, they're going to use popular name and try and sell shit on that alone, and all they need to do to beat others is advertise more.
>contract several mediocre companies to produce slop of a beloved [BRAND] to pivot public opinion in your favor >make use of advertising agencies and bot wranglers to push the discord allowing for a case to be made for further copyright extension
>Heh, let’s turn a cute IP that is beloved throughout everyone’s childhood into an edgy slop. This isn’t your mom’s kind of cartoon
Americans are so underage.
>Allowing people to make what they want will just demonize white culture >We have to give the anti white communists in charge of all media companies final say over all media produced or media will be anti white
Not just Steamboat Willie, anon
"Plane Crazy" and "Gallopin' Gaucho" are public domain too
Only black and white Mickey is in public domain, Disney can't do anything legally as long as you only use stuff from Steamboat Willie, Plane Crazy and Galloping Gaucho
Not that anon but it is true, at least acording to Wikipedia: >There have been multiple attempts to argue that certain versions of Mickey Mouse are in fact in the public domain. In the 1980s, archivist George S. Brown attempted to recreate and sell cels from the 1933 short "The Mad Doctor", on the theory that they were in the public domain because Disney had failed to renew the copyright as required by current law. >In 1999, Lauren Vanpelt, a law student at Arizona State University, wrote a paper making a similar argument,Vanpelt points out that copyright law at the time required a copyright notice specify the year of the copyright and the copyright owner's name. The title cards to early Mickey Mouse films "Steamboat Willie", "Plane Crazy", and "Gallopin' Gaucho" do not clearly identify the copyright owner, and also misidentify the copyright year. However, Vanpelt notes that copyright cards in other early films may have been done correctly, which could make Mickey Mouse "protected as a component part of the larger copyrighted films". >Because of the Copyright Term Extension Act of the United States (sometimes called the "Mickey Mouse Protection Act" because of extensive lobbying by the Disney corporation) works such as the early Mickey Mouse cartoons would remain under copyright until 2024. >Beginning in 2022, several Republican lawmakers vowed to oppose any future attempt to extend the copyright term due to Disney's opposition of the Florida Parental Rights in Education Act. >On January 1, 2024, the copyrights of the first three animated Mickey Mouse cartoons were expired, and they entered the public domain. They are the silent cartoons Plane Crazy and The Gallopin' Gaucho, and the sound cartoon Steamboat Willie.
using Mickey with red pants would be like asking Disney to frick you up like a moron
>Only black and white Mickey is in public domain
the red pants are fine actually. giving him the full eyes with white schlera or flesh colored face would get you in trouble though.
copyrightgays be all like NOOOOOOOO YOU SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO USE THE BIG BAD WOLF IN YOUR STORY WHAT ABOUT THAT 300 YEAR OLD GERMAN GUY WHO MADE THE CHARACTER UP
>despite tigger just now entering the public domain
disney's tigger didn't enter the public domain. the original one did. they can still get sued if they use the disney tigger. this is the thing that all of these moronic Black person homosexual normalgays don't seem to understand. like you.
Are you actually schizophrenic?
What the frick are you even reading.
I just mentioned tigger entered the public domain this year and they already filmed a sequel in prep for that.
take your meds dude. holy shit.
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>I just mentioned tigger entered the public domain this year
and it's not the disney one you fricking moron. it's irrelevant to this conversations >what? i don't understand? how can there be two different tiggers in copyright???????
kill. your. self.
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who the frick is talking about the disney one.
take your fricking meds moron
4 months ago
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>who the frick is talking about the disney one
we're in a thread talking about disney properties going public. and for some reason you decided to bring up non disney properties going public. you might as well go into a tendie thread and ask them why nintendo doesn't own master chief yet you moronic homosexual.
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okay cool, you have autism and you need to take your meds. It was a post replying to a fricking movie and my post was about the sequel using something else that just recently came out of public domain.
you should have just been more upfront with that from the start about your autism and schizophrenia, instead of going all schizo rage on me because you can't understand conversations. But I don't blame you, you were probably born this way.
But try to at least take your meds from now on and who knows, they might be able to find the cure for autism one day. Keep on dreamin buddy.
4 months ago
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you are a genuine moron
4 months ago
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wait until he pulls a "it was bait all along"
i hate newbies and zoomers and zoomer newbies are the worst
4 months ago
Anonymous
okay cool, you have autism and you need to take your meds. It was a post replying to a fricking movie and my post was about the sequel using something else that just recently came out of public domain.
you should have just been more upfront with that from the start about your autism and schizophrenia, instead of going all schizo rage on me because you can't understand conversations. But I don't blame you, you were probably born this way.
But try to at least take your meds from now on and who knows, they might be able to find the cure for autism one day. Keep on dreamin buddy.
brown
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you have to be a Black person with an IQ that low
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I think
you have to be a Black person with an IQ that low
is right
you have Black person IQ.
4 months ago
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You are genuinely moronic dude. He was talking about Pooh Blood and Honey which is getting a sequel and will include Tigger. Not the Disney Tigger obviously, how fricking stupid are you?
What gets me about this is that this game was in development and probably finished a long time before the copyright actually came out. They've just been sitting on it waiting for this day.
well yeah, it's not like mickey going public this year was some sort of secret, people on the internet have been talking about it excitedly for a few years now.
does this fricking garbage idea even still get attention? squidward suicide was novel when it was new because it was basically one of the first creepypastas and everyone was like "wow edgy spooky kid cartoons!", and then all those moronic fan theories about ash being in a coma started, and this moronic contrived ideas have been getting rehashed for nearly 20 years now with absolutely zero innovations.
I get WHY they're doing it. It's a literal joke for normoids to share around going like "look mickey is public domain now, isn't this so funny???????". I know these are never intended to be good or memorable, but why hasn't this homosexual trend died yet? It lost its edge in like 2007.
>does this fricking garbage idea even still get attention?
Blame FNAF, that was the turning point when "child's thing but spooky" because super popular and everyone has been riding that train since then.
>Blame FNAF
it was happening way before that, the only difference is that people weren't making these moronic streamer bait games. the one thing that I can give FNAF is that game genre really wasn't all that popular before it came out, even if it wasn't particularly deep. It became immediately moronic once they tried to shoehorn in a deep backstory.
To be fair, the deep backstory is what hooked everyone into the series, it was a cool detail suddenly seeing bits of backstory where there wasn't before whenever you changed the camera. Shame the story went full moron after that.
I was like 20 when the first game came out and I didn't follow it at all, but I was always under the impression that matpat was the reason why scott decided to start adding in moronic backstory stuff, as well as contributing to a lot of its success.
>Let a lifetime pass before it falls into public use
what is a lifetime to you, exactly? most of Walt Disney's immediate family are still employed by the company in some manner, and likely will be for generations.
>it encourages them to be lazy and not actually do anything
Surely disney losing the rights to mickey mouse certainly would have prevented them from doing that
I don't care who's morally right and who's morally wrong according to arbitrary definitions of these terms. FRICK CORPORATIONS AND FRICK MONEY "CHANGERS" REGARDLESS OF THE IMPLICATIONS OR CONSEQUENCES. DIE DIE DIE.
Patents and copyright are intellectual usury
I know you're trolling because no serious person actually supports the system of intellectual property as it currently exists and you've succeeded because I want to kill you
Any serious person supports it. You don't even have a good argument as to why you would oppose it and anyone who saw what the Free Software movement accomplished can see its inherent folly. Imagine even being dumb enough to think that in just a mere decade, all of that shit should just be given free reign to the public.
You're a fricking moron anon.
I think, and I could be wrong, but I think what happened is that specifically the OLD version of mickey that was featured in their very first cartoons is the one that's in public domain now. I believe they've successfully convinced people that their current iteration of mickey is a different character, so he still wouldn't be public for another billion years. Someone else can probably explain it better.
From what I understand, Disney used to value Mickey Mouse a lot more. It represented like a 1/4th of the companies worth. Now they own so many studios and IPs that it's not nearly worth as much as it was comparatively.
COVID hit them extremely hard and all of their recent media productions have been from mediocre to really bad, the current state of Star Wars and Marvel is proof enough.
1. The internet and online protests would've gone wild trying to stop another extension.
2. They pissed off a lot of politicians in the past few years.
3. Their PR is in the gutter right now.
They knew they had no chance this time around so they didn't even try to fight it.
maybe they should stop making all their attractive characters black. clearly nobody's buying into the charade anymore. 2023 was their first year without a billion dollar movie since like frozen 1 came out and it's obvious why.
I guess it's also worth noting that those versions of minnie and pete are the ones that can be used and not later ones. Also is that specifically supposed to be clarabelle cow? or just a generic cow? not that it matters because I don't think they care much about their legacy characters like her or horrace.
>Also is that specifically supposed to be clarabelle cow? or just a generic cow?
Wikipedia cites it as Clarabelle. Was probably originally just an unnamed cow that was retroactively called Clarabelle in later books/documentaries.
I wonder if companies would be more inclined to distance themselves from their origins instead of embracing them. Like would there be any point to making official merchandise of the Steamboat Willie design when anyone can do it and would people still pride themselves on buying only "officially" made stuff?
>Like would there be any point to making official merchandise of the Steamboat Willie design when anyone can do it and would people still pride themselves on buying only "officially" made stuff?
If the official stuff is higher quality than the bootlegs/non-official stuff, why wouldn't you always go for that? That's usually why people prefer going for known brands.
I mean if the bootlegs and other 3rd party productions were of high or even better quality than official ones, of course.
The real question is will there be any point to making steamboat willie merchandise when you can make another million Frozen dolls instead?
That's probably also right. They're always moving ahead and focus on that which makes them the most money. If Steamboat Willie has any sort of marketing clout 95 years later we'd probably see it, but we don't.
That was exactly it, yes. And that's why Iwerks left Disney. >Eventually, Iwerks and Disney had a falling out; their friendship and working partnership were severed in January 1930. According to an unconfirmed account, a child approached Disney and Iwerks at a party and asked for a picture of Mickey to be drawn on a napkin, to which Disney handed the pen and paper to Iwerks and stated, "Draw it." Iwerks became furious and threw the pen and paper, storming out.
>mickey is an important character
mickey is a joke character for anybody who doesn't love disney. homer simpson and probably even peter griffin has much more memorable media than mickey does. Only fitting that disney owns them both now.
So are you implying they used the old cow name instead of the later one in a queer attempt to hold on to some assets of steamwiener silly's copyrights? Like the people making these parodies of willie might not know that the cow is copyrighted, so if they try to use her, they can still sue them?
The Disney Wiki article is all the way from 2005 and their uncited source for the name appears to come from HooZoo, a now dead Disney character encyclopedia fansite, which treated Caroline as a Clarabelle prototype.
>mickey mouse
You mean steamboat willie? You can't call them mickey mouse, you have to use their original name because only that version is now public domain. It's like if jumpman became public demand but not mario.
1. The film was called Steamboat Willie, the character in it was called Mickey Mouse.
2. There was 2 other Mickey Mouse movies released in 1928 that are now public domain.
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1. The film was called Steamboat Willie, the character in it was called Mickey Mouse.
2. There was 2 other Mickey Mouse movies released in 1928 that are now public domain.
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these companies are going to be in for some fun once the investment firms bankrolling this shit finally dry up and they realize touting random woke shit doesn't actually make any money
false. brown people rule the west now and they love wokeness. in one generation the us will be half hispanic, canada will be half indian, and europe will be half muslim
>brown people rule the west now and they love wokeness
brown people aren't the ones making these games or funding them. they ARE that the ones that these games are being made for, but maybe you should find the names of the people producing these games on Wikipedia articles, and see what it says about them in their "early life" section, usually in the first or second sentence.
>moronic bidengay intentionally misrepresents the point he's responding to
its so strange how you people constantly rewrite history
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so much seethe and cope
4 months ago
Anonymous
"no! your wrong! the victors dont write the history books! the good guys do! that's what they taught me in my inner city youth school!"
4 months ago
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all this cope over the pure fact that brown people are the ones making AAA games now
4 months ago
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just call me a nazi already and frick off. you've already proven you live in a different reality.
4 months ago
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sad sad cope
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sneed
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>heh it's fine for china to make everything >what the frick the world is suddenly collapsing itself because of china AIEEEEE STOP IT RIGHT NOW >NOOOOOOO THIS IS EVEN WORSE
if only you didn't vote for bill clit ton[if it made a damn difference lol] if voting actually made a difference you wouldn't be allowed to do it
4 months ago
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>bill clit ton[if it made a damn difference lol]
I love when morons like you show your hand and prove that you absolutely do not belong here without any effort from us at all. Fricking kek.
4 months ago
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>noooo u must belong on a website on a taiwanese flag weaver board
4 months ago
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How is it possible 10000 indians and chinese can't make a good game?
There are things more important than money. Let's be honest, you'd call it admirable and based if they were burning billions to push right-wing messaging.
not really I think kanye is a fricking moron too. hell all the celebs that say stupid right-wing shit then get immediately canceled piss me off, that one chick with the big breasts that was playing female boba fett that got kicked out basically fricked us on on having a spinoff with a busty lead, I still hate that squidbillies kicked hinson off and hired some random unfitting black man, people who insist on putting politics before their work are all fricking morons in my eyes
they get more money from EGS and blackrock than they do from returns or investors anyway. >but why would they keep doing this if they're losing money?
it's political. the family that finances their company has over one trillion US dollars in assets. They're no longer in it to make money. They don't need money. They're in it to turn the entire planet into their political direction.
your family will have your birth name printed on your tombstone when you inevitably -ack yourself 🙂
There are things more important than money. Let's be honest, you'd call it admirable and based if they were burning billions to push right-wing messaging.
no. now stop projecting your homosexual tactics onto others
>HQ, this is GOOF-001, the "special syrup" has been distributed in all school cafeterias in the sector. Requesting extraction now. >Solid copy, GOOF-001. Rendezvous with Big Mouse for evac.
Honestly, the copyright should have expired 20-30 years after his death.
2-3 decades is more than enough for the family to profit off the creator's work. After which, I don't see the point in continuing exclusivity rights. The entire point of copyright is to encourage creativity by protecting CREATOR rights. What's there to protect after the creator dies? Let alone for over 70 years?
>What's there to protect after the creator dies? Let alone for over 70 years?
for someone else to remake the exact same thing in a modern style and continue to completely kill new creativity.
>for someone else to remake the exact same thing in a modern style and continue to completely kill new creativity.
You mean exactly what the Disney company has been doing with their IP for the past 2 or so decades?
so unironically what every major media industry has been doing with remakes rehashes and sequels out the ass?you may have a point there, if authors could change some words and call an old book a remake you bet your ass they would
The problem with these is every single one does the exact same le shock angle that these edgy parodies became their own predictable uninspired cliché. I would rather someone make something good with these IP with actual sincerity. It's not like Disney can provide something like that either.
It takes time to make stuff like that, whereas it's extremely easy to take a horror game template and shove Mickey Mouse in it. This game looks great and will probably add him in some form https://youtu.be/BZAVznVPMh8?si=NC8NWyn0qopFe19l
It's just the usual clamor for attention. I for one would be happy to see Mickey and Minnie added to something like Cuphead as DLC or something along those lines.
The PROBLEM is we've had like 3 generations who have never gotten to experience real transformative works from IPs that they cherish since copyright has been extended a million times over. The only thing anyone knows how to make is low effort parodies and trash.
I just mean in a broader sense. Winnie the Pooh but he le kills people. Wow so creative. The IP has been out there for a bit and no one made anything but a shitty edgy parody with it yet. With all the shock content I'm surprised no one made a legal porn parody yet.
I've already said it in this thread, but this is my point exactly. You've got a nearly 100 year old IP. Hardly anyone is still alive who appreciated it when it was new. The only way anyone has experienced it is through other people's works. The best thing anyone can think of to do with the IP is make a fricking horror parody or a porn parody. Who are the Winnie the Pooh lovers who want to expand on Pooh's adventures? Is the problem really that it's too old for anyone to care or is the real problem that there's no genuine interest or sincerity involved with anything anymore? It's just easier to shit out some low effort parody.
In general sincerety is a rare trait and you can really only find it somewhere like Japan. Except in cases like that stupid Palworld thing that keeps getting shilled. Pikachu with le guns is no different from Pooh but le murderer. People don't even talk to each other without layers of irony anymore. But everything is decided by a bean counter and layers of irony.
I've already said it in this thread, but this is my point exactly. You've got a nearly 100 year old IP. Hardly anyone is still alive who appreciated it when it was new. The only way anyone has experienced it is through other people's works. The best thing anyone can think of to do with the IP is make a fricking horror parody or a porn parody. Who are the Winnie the Pooh lovers who want to expand on Pooh's adventures? Is the problem really that it's too old for anyone to care or is the real problem that there's no genuine interest or sincerity involved with anything anymore? It's just easier to shit out some low effort parody.
There's an animated movie and then a TV series that's an origin story when they were kids slated for this year, and then an R-rated comedy show about an adult Christopher Robins that's still TBD.
>“Christopher Robin is a disillusioned New Yorker navigating his quarter-life crisis with the help of the weird talking animals who live beyond a drug-induced portal outside his derelict apartment complex, the Hundred Acres.” >LET'S TAKE TED BUT MAKE IT POOH INSTEAD!
Is that really the best we can come up with?
Yeah, in a few years I think. It's his first year of books, so you get alot of important hallmarks of the series. Batmobile, Alfred, batcave, if I recall. I know someone that has a comic book he wrote that he wants to release once he goes public domain and he walked me through the details he could use and how it wrote around things that wouldn't be available yet.
>so you get alot of important hallmarks of the series. Batmobile, Alfred, batcave, if I recall.
Yeah, all the good stuff about him. Batman without all the bloat like Robin and the Joker sounds like a perfect opportunity to reexplore the potential of the character as a detective vigilante in a bat costume.
>bloat like Robin and the Joke
Robin and the Joker will be a year later.
Interesting enough, Dick Grayson's and Joker's designs haven't changed all that much since their first creation, meaning there's a lot of leeway here unlike Batman's OG design.
Isn't Batman supposed to enter public domain soon? Or did that already happen?
I'd love for some classic Batman detective kino.
If that happens I wonder if we'll get a slaher type movie or game from the pov of criminals slowly getting picked off by Batman. If it's a game then it'd essentially be the multiplayer from Arkham Origins.
>*fade in from black as the camera pans up on some grass and dirt >a 6 inch tall mickey mouse scatters across the ground. finds a piece of cheese, runs and grabs it in excitement >giant leather shoe instantly crushes the mouse as a tall figure walks by >camera pulls out >the man's large silhouette is revealed >intro to "somebody that i used to know" by gotye starts playting >dreamworks presents: >shrek 5
I am envious of the children of the 22nd century who will be able to view and enjoy all kinds of content based on all the video game IPs from the first 40 years since their origin (basically 1970-2010 era) and all in the public domain.
>give free money to the third world and take it away from the first world
since all the good shit belong to first world countries.
basically chinese hands typed this post.
they should be public domaine once the creator dies, ONYL for westerners with the nationality as well as parents./ otherwise you re just giving away shit to evil shitty countries that dont deserve it and gave you nothing
the truth here is if you had the talent/skills to make a good game with public domain assets you had enough talent/skill to create a cool game/movie featuring your own OC and build your own franchise/cult.character design its not impossible when you are decent at drawing
Disney shills are shaking in their boots. They fear me. They know I'm coming for them. First it's Mickey, then it'll be Donald, Goofy, I won't stop until the whole gang is under my control. First it'll be shorts, then feature length films, merchandise, theme parks, comics, video games, you name it. And Disney won't be able to do anything about it.
Zoom zooms and their "children's thing... but LE SPOOKY" trend are genuinely the biggest cancer in gaming. It started with Five Memes at Furries and has exploded into a billion dollar industry. Sure, you had shit like Eversion that was meant to be subversive, but this is nonstop and lazy as frick.
I'm a millennial and when I was a kid it was "children's thing...getting the shit beat out of it."
I used to draw comics of Sesame Street characters and Teletubbies dying in various bloody ways. I think they both come from the same mentality.
Would a company have a legal argument to make that by starting work on this before the copyright technically expired, they were actually breaking copyright?
>Disney loses first Mickey hit >they retaliate by removing all copyright laws >they scrape the whole internet >use their channels to stream Neverending new shows based on every other IP
They clearly developed this game before 1st of January and released the trailer once Steamboat Micket became public domain. There's no fricking way they did it all in like 1 day.
And that, gentlemen, is NOT fricking legal. I hope the devs spend a long fricking time in prison.
But they DID own the copyright just a couple of days ago, and they STILL own the trademark.
What the developers are doing is theft, plain and simple. They waited to a point where it's "impossible to prove anything!!!" but it's still SO FRICKING OBVIOUSLY theft. They are criminals who belong behind fricking bars.
Ghandi once said:
"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated"
In a similar manner, the greatness of a person can be judged by the way he/she/xhe treats copyright laws.
Just because something is on the "public domain" doesn't mean it's fair to steal it from their rightful owners.
Y'all better than this.
Be better.
Do better.
If you need a reason to stop pirating shit, keep in mind that every thousand torrented games is the equivalent of one mortar missile sent towards Israel
Disney: Creates a whimsical world of joy and fantasy for all ages and generations
Millenials and reddit: grrrrr i hate le disney cuz they wont let me draw minnie+pluto porn for my patreons >:(
Why are some of you like this?
I bet some of you also mindlessly hate Nestle, despite them being the #1 producer of nutrituous and yummy food for billions worldwide.
How does the copyright law works?
I can use the design and call it mickey mouse?
And i can make a variation based on the design, but it cannot be too farfetch that you can't recognise that it's a variation of the steam boat willie mickey mouse?
>You can take anything from Steamboat Willie or any other Mickey cartoon from 1928 and reproduce it, sell it, do whatever you want from it >If you make your own content based on Steamboat Willie you can use anything from Steamboat Willie within your story, you can change their designs, you can change the plot, make your own plots, do w/e >HOWEVER you cannot use any other version of Mickey Mouse or characters featured within Steamboat Willie, so no 1930s Mickey, 40s Mickey, etc, all the way to modern Mickey. If you change the Steamboat Willie design it cannot look like or have features from ANY other Mickey design. You also cannot violate Disney's trademark on Mickey Mouse, so just avoid using it in ways that would confuse customers into thinking you have an official Disney product (Don't use Mickey in your logos/titles, etc)
I think that covers it
if someone can't utilize their intellectual property to its full potential and goes out of business because somebody else did we would have better media. it's just that simple. why not bring meritocracy to the literal marketplace of ideass?
Y'all I just found out that our overlord Disney didn't come up with Rapunzel's story! :O Maybe we should cancel them after all, they stole xher from the Grimm siblings!!!
Wish, their movie celebrating 100 years of Disney is a 48% on Rotten Tomatoes and capped off this year with Disney's worst performing numbers. What the frick are you talking about?
Disney is a non-profit organization. They literally do NOT care about money
Wish, their movie celebrating 100 years of Disney is a 48% on Rotten Tomatoes and capped off this year with Disney's worst performing numbers. What the frick are you talking about?
On one hand I get that you'd need to get creative to make use out of Steamboat Willie of all things if you're not doing some "le epin spokypasta" bullshit but fricking hell at least validate the existence of public domain before making that schlock.
This is going to be like Winnie the Pooh becoming public domain. People are going to care for a few weeks and make like one or two things with it then everyone will forget and not care anymore.
People have been shitting on Mickey and Disney since forever, but people suddenly acting like "we can finally draw Mickey having sex! please ignore the gorillion pics of Mickey and other Disney character in e621!"
If the intention of copyright laws is to make people be creative, then nothing should be copyrightable past 20 years.
You shouldn’t have to wait a life time to be able to adapt or whatever copyright material, and someone shouldn’t be able to live off of 1 book they wrote for the rest of their lives. Make more shit if you’re pissing and shitting yourself over your book suddenly being public domain.
Also I hate how people simply assume if something is open domain or if someone uses their work in any form, they suddenly can’t make money off of it. I don’t see Disney going bankrupt because some shop in China makes T-shirts with knock off Mickey Mouse. I don’t see Nintendo going bankrupt because of a fan game made 15 years ago.
>lol. Get it, it's because copyright over lol XDD we trolled Disney so hard rn lmao xd
holy seethe
unholy go to bed
holy sneed
I can't believe Disney failed to bend the law for the 13495rd time again. Serves them right lol, I'll make a rape themed RPG maker h-game about mickey.
based if true
Not that anon but it is true, at least acording to Wikipedia:
>There have been multiple attempts to argue that certain versions of Mickey Mouse are in fact in the public domain. In the 1980s, archivist George S. Brown attempted to recreate and sell cels from the 1933 short "The Mad Doctor", on the theory that they were in the public domain because Disney had failed to renew the copyright as required by current law.
>In 1999, Lauren Vanpelt, a law student at Arizona State University, wrote a paper making a similar argument,Vanpelt points out that copyright law at the time required a copyright notice specify the year of the copyright and the copyright owner's name. The title cards to early Mickey Mouse films "Steamboat Willie", "Plane Crazy", and "Gallopin' Gaucho" do not clearly identify the copyright owner, and also misidentify the copyright year. However, Vanpelt notes that copyright cards in other early films may have been done correctly, which could make Mickey Mouse "protected as a component part of the larger copyrighted films".
>Because of the Copyright Term Extension Act of the United States (sometimes called the "Mickey Mouse Protection Act" because of extensive lobbying by the Disney corporation) works such as the early Mickey Mouse cartoons would remain under copyright until 2024.
>Beginning in 2022, several Republican lawmakers vowed to oppose any future attempt to extend the copyright term due to Disney's opposition of the Florida Parental Rights in Education Act.
>On January 1, 2024, the copyrights of the first three animated Mickey Mouse cartoons were expired, and they entered the public domain. They are the silent cartoons Plane Crazy and The Gallopin' Gaucho, and the sound cartoon Steamboat Willie.
Good
Is Mickey the rapist or the victim?
Victim. Of Pete anal vore.
That's what happened? Surprising, a company as huge as Disney is fully capable of bending the law to retain micky mouse, if they really cared about it. If Microsoft can defund the IRS then Disney can keep Mickey Mouse, the only reason they didn't is because I guess it wasn't important enough to them.
Disney made an enemy of Republicans with the shit they tried pulling in Florida so they've been ignoring all their lobbying. Yes, this is a case of go woke go broke.
disney is bleeding money left and right and everybody can cope with esg funding, it will end eventually, usa needs white people to fight a war
They didn't. They decided it would be in their best interest to set copyright for a very specific version of mickey to expire today, and it's very likely an attempt to bait people into making shit with the non-expired version of mickey, and guaranteeing the extension of the modern, more recognized version of mickey by saying "Look at all the people trying to profit off of our copyrighted material? This is why we need the extensions!"
They fought the expiry EVERY time until this most recent one, they were on thin ice, don't get me wrong, but it's exceptionally odd.
>nd it's very likely an attempt to bait people into making shit with the non-expired version of mickey
this is all it is. they don't use the old version of mickey anymore so they have no reason to keep it. morons and homosexuals will think this means they can use any version of mickey, including the modern one. this is where they will strike.
They also massively pissed off Republican politicians, the people who would usually be the ones siding with a massive corporation abusing copyright law. They probably understood that they had no hope of continuing it after that.
why would republicans give a shit about a company that shoves gay and troon shit in all of their products
Yeah, that's my point. Disney pushed away their only hope of continuing to endlessly extend the copyright laws.
That's exactly why they lost favor with them. Disney didn't used to be that way. It used to be a lot more conservative.
Ah I see what you're saying now. lmao get fricked disney
>thinking repubs don't love troon shit because of controlled opposition, and that politicians don't love oodles of money from bribes to help bend copyright law
>the people who would usually be the ones siding with a massive corporation abusing copyright law
Democrats are the biggest corpo shills now and it's the republicans that have been having the most hearings against corpos lately
two sides of the same shekel
Can't wait to play Mick Souls
>I can't believe Disney failed to bend the law for the 13495rd time again.
Too many people were against it. The guy that runs the copyright office wants to REDUCE copyright duration by default back down to 20 years and instead allow companies who have a continued interest in the copyright to renew it every 5 years up to 70. Mainly as a way to solve the problem with over 99% of all copyrights being effectively abandoned but still legally protected.
Make a game where you are Mickey and the main objective is raping little kids, killing them and eating their dead bodies.
Yes
Frick the House of Mouse
>seething "haha"s in the distance
Mousefricker
GIWTWM
is it really?
Yep, earliest mickey designs and cartoons' copyright elapsed.
The Disney Vault begins to rust.
i see, but it looks like it's only for "steamboat willie" and not mickey mouse as a whole. so no one can use mickey mouses name, right?
Mickey's name in Steamboat Willie is Mickey, so yes you can use his name. The only thing you have to worry about is Disney still owns the trademark for Mickey Mouse. You can probably avert that by specifying that your work is not associated with Disney in any way shape or form, but you do need to be careful of using Mickey in your logo or title or any other thing that might confuse the consumer.
ok that makes sense. i was confusing copyright and trademark. thanks for the info.
Bob pls
I don't think "some jackass in a disney mask" is copyrighted though?
basado
looks kino as FRICK
Nothing should ever go in the pu7blic domain. If a company worked hard to create a character it should stay with them and other should be unable to use it unless said companies agrees to make it public.
prove me wrong.
All copyrights should cease the moment original creator dies.
kek, watch people who randomly created cultural phenomena like Rowling or Toby Fox die suddenly and mysteriously like Clinton enemies.
>cultural phenomena
>Toby Fox
>people born in 1990 should make money of shit made in 1890 and have legal rights over that shit
They do. You see how many Alice in Wonderland spinoffs there are now? Its just Mickey happens to be *the* face of a giant conglomerate.
>because a concept/idea is popular, this is bad
???????????????
Disney built it's empire on exploiting public domain and their output has gotten much worse after they ran out of European literature and fairytales to easily adapt.
No, it's ok for companies to lose rights.
It's an essential part of advancement.
Companies don't create anything. People do. The people who created Mickey Mouse are dead. Why should the company have exclusive rights to profit off their creation forever when they did nothing but acquire the copyright.
Because they still own the rotting flesh and bones of their employees. They each signed a contract of eternal servitude of their own free will in exange for money.
I would argue the more popular something is, the quicker it should become public domain. I'd say 40 years is plenty of time for something to transfer in the public domain if there is enough interest. Once you reach certain level of social impact, the property permiates in such a way that it's foolish for any company or person to bogart it like it's the last sip of water. Shit like Star Trek, Star Wars, Doctor Who and Lord of the Rings should all belong to the Public at this point.
How would one quantify this objectively?
Answer:I don't know
Probably have some sort of procedure in the courts whenever, like a defense for a copyright claim or simply petitioning the courts that it's in the publ
Thats an even stupider idea than opposing copyright and brings about serious problem with bias and objectivity.
Nah, it's pretty smart
Dumb frogposter, if all classic fairy tales that Disney used for it's movies are in public domain then it's only fair for Mickey a 1928 mouse to be in public domain too
>Nothing should ever go in the pu7blic domain. If a company worked hard to create a character it should stay with them and other should be unable to use it unless said companies agrees to make it public.
Frick off cuck
So what, companies should be able to drag their IPs with them to the grave?
Absurd, if they're not around to do anything about it then their shit would effectively be public domain anyway
You didn't make that frog, b***h.
Public domain was created to protect the consumer so we don't get 8 Spider-Man movies every year. It just got abused to the point where companies can go after you for using centuries old characters without permission.
That makes no fricking sense, so what if 80 companies want to make their own Spiderman. It would be on them to pay for the production and advertising, the fact that companies can monopolize on idea's (safe-keeping them) is worst for the consumer. If 80 different people could make it then that would be better, maybe someone makes a really good version of that same movie, and what's the difference between some company's making different * movies and companies making infinite dumbass sequels.
IP law is stupid as hell.
Public domain was not created, it's the default. Ideas are literally free. Copyright was created to promote the creation of information by giving creators the right to their work for enough time so they can profit off it.
Art belongs to the people not some corporate big wigs.
There is no difference between a corporations and the government. One hand washes other and most major companies are made up by people who worked in the government. Government does what corporations want. Most people would rightfully think it is silly to say that the government should have any say over what media and art is produced. Yet they are fooled by copyright law to think that it is totally cool for the government's butt buddies to have that power. And no, copyright does not in any way protect small artists, it's far too expensive for such people to utilize it and copyright was originally conceived as a method of bottle necking to prevent smaller competitors from entering the book printing business.
why are there so many corporate bootlickers on this website?
>suddenly anti-semitism
the entire site is a government honeypot
Yet you just posted a character you didn't create.
This, I'm glad Walt Disney personally went to the fairy tale company to buy the rights to make snow white.
Intellectual property shouldnt exist period
oy vey
>t. Nose
Disney used fairy tales from a public domain like half of their lifetime
>If a company worked hard
You are a cuck
everyone who actually created mickey mouse has been dead for over 50 years. corporate suits that have had zero hand in the creation of these characters have about as much right to use them as you and me. stop dickriding megacorporations you little fricking weasel
You can't prove that Walt Disney's head won't create life after it wakes up from its cryostasis you non believer.
>ELIÁÁÁÁÁÁÁÁÁÁÁN!
>If a company worked hard to create a character
The company didn't work hard to create shit. They simply bought everything after Walt died. It's also run by israelites now, and Walt hated israelites. If anything, it going public domain falls more in line with the wishes of the original creator who actually worked hard to make it in the first place.
The rest of it is just parasites leeching off Walt's genius and success.
>NOOOO WHERE'S MY MICKEY MOUSE ORIGIN MOVIE AND OPEN WORLD STEAMBOAT WILLIE GAME
>FRICK THE PUBLIC DOMAIN
Seethe Sonicgay
>I hate the public domain!
>I-it's okay when Disney does it though
You can still make all of those things? Why are people on twitter acting like public domain is a limited thing and it's been "wasted" on shitty horror games and movies? Anyone can still make whatever they want with it.
Because they're zoomers that only first heard of public domain when Pooh slipped in.
Make it yourself? You can do that now.
>open world steamboat willie game
sounds fricking kino if done properly
>you should be able to steal people's work for free and then make money on it
is what you are saying, stupid frog Black person
Public domain fanfiction and zombie character fanfiction by companies are equally worthless. Original work by original creator(s) is all that matters; if it gets reprinted in different forms or has adaptations that adhere to the source material then that's OK.
I'd probably be more inclined to agree with you had modern Disney not been proving why it actually should lose the copyright to it's own characters. Until they get their shit together, it's time to let someone else bring the Mickey Mouse magic back into households worldwide
how else will the israelites "legally" steal your properties?
Copyright is not private property.
I only agree because nothing good comes out of it
only the ancient stuff like Fairy Tales or Lovecrafts works
Frick israelites Bottom Text
I miss the old internet. I miss the 2006 internet.. back when corporations had no influence on the internet and copyright wasn't strictly adhered to. People shared shit for free. Back when YouTube was still free and there was no cringe content creators. Now everything you got to pay a fine you got to listen to some gay rules you have to affirm to shit.
Bootlicker. Obey whatever the youtuber says.
there is no downside to public domain
assuming the company that still "owns" whatever went into public domain is still producing something good, not only are you getting good shit from there, anything made by not-the-company will need to be half-decent to actually get traction/sell so there's now 1 + x amount of good shit coming from a bunch of shit
and if the company was producing nothing (good) then we inevitably get good shit from people who aren't the comapny
downside is more slop to tune out like day 1 horror slop like this but oh well, still overall a win
>prove me wrong.
dont care to. its not even your own thought. you just parrot it from some youtube video like the two digit iq brownoid you are
No I want every IP in a a chinese MMO
Put me in the youtube short.
I just bought the rights to Pepe. Now you're going to jail for posting him and you are going to be raped by several big black men.
>it belongs to da company
frick you moron
>lifetime limit
I actually agree with that, if the number was a hardline "single digit years after death" that was set in stone it'd be acceptable
once something enters the public domain is when theres a chance for actual passionate fans to make something good
>but there will also be shit
yeah, 99% of anything is shit, this is known. i'll take 99% shit over 100% shit anyway
The fact that such an obvious bait has this many replies demonstrates that the majority of Ganker now comprises of redditors.
Fricking disgusting
J
Most of Disney's most popular characters and movies are based off of Public Domain stories.
Walt Disney worked hard to create it, after he died his company got taken over by israelites who held him and his work in contempt. Realistically it should have gone into public domain right then and there.
Frogposters...
frog website
frog board
frog thread
frog culture
>Draw a humanoid mouse
>People who didn’t draw that humanoid mouse should have exclusive rights to all art that vaguely looks likes the humanoid mouse long after the original creator is dead
Frick off, moron
moronic frogposter
No, EVERYTHING should be available to the public and the the market decides the best version of the property. Copyright just leads to stagnation.
>1-4 player survival horror co-op shooter
>infestation 88
>1-4 88
walt would be proud
This. The only relevant post in the thread, and it was completely ignored. Absolute state of this board
>>1-4 88
>walt would be proud
I know the 88 but what do you morons think 1-4 is?
why not a steamboat willie game in the style of cuphead?
It would not get the clicks and free media attention like edgy horror cash grab does.
Because that's hard and requires drawing and animating a lot of unique assets. Alternately you can just make one scary mickey mouse model and put it in a stock Unreal Engine level and youre on the front page of Kotaku.
Or better yet if they insist on sticking to horrir, Suicide Mouse
i would like that but if we're being the story's first line says "from the 1930's" while steamboat willie was 1928, so at best it would take two years for that to become public domain.
i know i'm putting realism into a story about a strange cartoon of mickey walking for 9 minutes but whatever
Disney characters try to kill themselves in the actual cartoons surprisingly often though. It's not a subject foreign to Disney at all.
i want a series of novels detailing the adventures of a captain michael mouse of the steamship bill in the american south in the late 1800s
because that would require effort other than making a beloved child figure as A FRICKING UP HORROR GAME SO BASED!
requires too much effort to the point you should just make your own ip like this
Because that takes time and effort and modern society is all about instant gratification
There's already a FPS being made in that style.
HAHA YES
Is that Steamboat Willie????? BUT LET BAD???
Share the purchase link brother, I can't wait to pwnzor disney!!!!!!!!
I can't wait until Nintendo games are old enough to enter public domain. Imagine the kino.
>Market gets flooded with "NINTENDO HIRE THIS MAN" games
The moment mario enters public domain, a slasher film based on him is going to appear out of nowhere
>Woman walking down an alleyway at night
>Suddenly a gloved hand cups over her mouth
>A moustache'd face looms over her ear
>*hiss* IT'S A ME
>the next day, Detective Bowser investigates the crime scene
>the cause of death appears to be crushing
>and there's debris everywhere from the damaged red brick balcony above, but how?
>there's nothing in the alley to climb
>nobody could jump that high..........right?
KINO
that actually made me jump lmao
>YOU GONNA GET-A RAPED
It's going to have to be DK, Mario the carpenter and Pauline for a bit. We don't get plumbing or proper. No Luigi until '83.
You're probably going to be over 70 years old when mario goes public. Unless there's something about japanese copyright law that I don't know, which there likely is.
Have to wait 70 years after nintendo dies to it to go public domain or some shit like that according to a 2008 japanese law.
brown
Maniac (1980) closed things we get.
We gotta wait another 53 years before we get Donkey Kong.
Unless shit changes, chances are most of us on here will be dead before Mario comes close to entering Public Domain. And you can bet your ass Nintendo will fight tooth and nail to keep Mario's copyright.
>HAHA YES
>Is that Steamboat Willie????? BUT LET BAD???
>Share the purchase link brother, I can't wait to pwnzor disney!!!!!!!!
Well, you can always watch the originals. Sherlock Holmes must be having gay sex in your favorite netflix series, but this doesn't mean he has always been a flaming homo.
Step aside let me show you how it's done
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I don't think they had the intention to use public domain Mickey but I wonder if they'll use steamboat willie shit now since they can.
>88
Where's the 14?
>le kids character but creepy
Yawn, this was already stale when Winnie the Pooh got that same shit.
>88
what was meant by this
It sounds like the word “idiot”
Why is it horror every single time?
Or is horror just the shit that gets noticed?
Because it's an "easy" genre to make.
>Why is it horror every single time?
Streamers and reactors love horror.
>character known for being a good natured, happy go lucky jolly fella is suddenly evil
>baits people who think it's "official"
I bet that all those evil winnie the pooh watchers initially thought it was made by Disney or something, normalgays are this moronic.
it's not that they thought it was official, it's that they thought that disney lost the rights to winnie the pooh and now people could make le epic heckin bacon parodies of their beloved cartoon character. Most of the morons that it was pandering to don't even know that the copyright that went public was the original version of the characters, and specifically NOT the disney ones. Normalgays are so incredibly moronic that they will believe whatever half truth or lie they are told, so long as it SOUNDS believable.
Its proof that creativity is fricking dead these days hell I remember that winnie the pooh parasite game
Horror panders to the lowest common denominator. It takes the least amount of creativity to make something horror and it's guaranteed to get a reaction.
Big IPs are pretty much never horror because horror is absolutely slop no matter the medium, be it video games, movies, TV shows, doesn't matter. Horror is almost always slop. Taking something that isn't horror and turning it into horror is a very easy "twist" on the idea to try and sell it. So it isn't that they are picking horror because they like horror so much, they just always pick horror because the original is almost never horror, since horror is full of so much slop.
Because horror means walking simulator with no gameplay or thought
juxtaposition of cute kids character and vilolence/gore. Also horror is cheap and easy to make.
What else are you going to do with a cartoon to reach a wide audience?
>omg its steamboat willie but a deep philosophical CRPG!!
Hope someday abandonware as a whole becomes free to access as default
There's a lot of games that companies will just not sell to you but still get pissy when you pirate them.
Shit like this makes you wonder why they even bother with withholding these characters from public use.
All they make is the same shit over and over again.
>all those Alice porn games... gone... like tears in the rain...
Can't they sue them for clearly working on this prior to 2024?
How do you know they didn't just make everything else and then scrap together the micky model in a few hours?
3rd poster I've seen bring this up. Why would you think that would be illegal?
There's no real precedence for this. How exactly could they prove that anyway? Even if this game came out TODAY, they wouldn't have been potentially profiting off of it until after it was legal to do so.
Public domain was a mistake.
This is based and exactly what the public domain is for.
>The public domain is for making the same hacky, uninspired horror dogshit everytime a character becomes free use
A few more of these, and people will be against public domain
It's not like the owners are flawless. The Tolkien state managed to keep LotR for themselves and look at what they did to it.
Christopher Tolkien did a good job, the problems started once he died and the IP passed into the hands of Tolkien's grandchildren who have zero personal connection to his work and just see it as a fat paycheck.
Worst part is they never do anything else with them, just horror. Hell look at winnie the pooh.
No, normal people know they can just abstain from playing lazy games they don't like, only an idiot thinks the appropriate response is to attack the concept of PD
The problem is two-fold.
Copyright doesn't work the same way it did 100 years ago since corporations continue to milk the same franchises indefinitely. And with the advent of computers and the internet every braindead moron can produce whatever content they want. What you're left with is NOBODY is actually producing good content, just mindless slop, and if anyone actually does have something good to make it will be drowned out by all the other bullshit. This isn't the public domain's fault, it's just the current state of our shitty society.
Public domain helps, consider a lot of movie or even game remakes exist to cash in on a known property. Now consider everyone can use said property. Any big studio hoping to cash in on a name like that has to really try to do better because any other studio can try their own hand for free.
Big studios don't even put effort into their original products, they're going to use popular name and try and sell shit on that alone, and all they need to do to beat others is advertise more.
>contract several mediocre companies to produce slop of a beloved [BRAND] to pivot public opinion in your favor
>make use of advertising agencies and bot wranglers to push the discord allowing for a case to be made for further copyright extension
>this makes disney lawyers seethe with rage
based
Call me when they make a game where you kill groomers while wearing Mickey Mouse ears.
>Heh, let’s turn a cute IP that is beloved throughout everyone’s childhood into an edgy slop. This isn’t your mom’s kind of cartoon
Americans are so underage.
Mickey but evil
Public domain used to be a good thing but thanks to cultural marxism it will forever be used as a tool to demonize white culture.
Yeah man because the corporations themselves aren't already promoting that while they own the IPs right
>Allowing people to make what they want will just demonize white culture
>We have to give the anti white communists in charge of all media companies final say over all media produced or media will be anti white
Mr. Peterson you should really lay off the benzos
> juden peterstien
> defending whites in any way
>Public domain demonizes white culture.
Anon, pls
>Steamboat willie is public
>Disney owns all the distrubution tho
Still getting their money
Not just Steamboat Willie, anon
"Plane Crazy" and "Gallopin' Gaucho" are public domain too
>you can't even have red pants mickey or gloves
so its nothing yet
Only black and white Mickey is in public domain, Disney can't do anything legally as long as you only use stuff from Steamboat Willie, Plane Crazy and Galloping Gaucho
using Mickey with red pants would be like asking Disney to frick you up like a moron
Mickey... with blue pants though....
That's Oswald
That's a rabbit though.
>a challenger appears!
for context: this poster is also considered Public domain, dated 1928.
this means this version of the mickey design, including the short, glove and boots colors is also legal to use.
it's disputed if this poster could be considered "published", a fact you can bet Disney would argue in court
>Only black and white Mickey is in public domain
the red pants are fine actually. giving him the full eyes with white schlera or flesh colored face would get you in trouble though.
Intellectual property isn't real
Man when the original 151 Pokémon finally enter public domain we're gonna see an absolutely massive wave of shit the likes you can't even fathom.
>we're gonna see
yeah I'm sure we'll make it to 2089, I'd be 98 by then
They're currently working on drugs that will make us live forever, so maybe!
Hey it's not impossible to live that long.
>make a game about water bottles
>game is bad
>aaaaaaaa only water bottle companies should have the right to display water bottles
I am thankful for public domain because it allowed us to see Sherlock Holmes and not Phoenix Wright in the same scene.
copyrightgays be all like NOOOOOOOO YOU SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO USE THE BIG BAD WOLF IN YOUR STORY WHAT ABOUT THAT 300 YEAR OLD GERMAN GUY WHO MADE THE CHARACTER UP
it's gonna end up like pic, no doubt
Semi-related, I just found out that they just released a horror-themed Grinch movie too.
probably its even already made like the game in OP. and in a couple days we are seeing Trailer 1, for a premier in early March
they are making a sequel with tigger and it comes out in like 2 months despite tigger just now entering the public domain
>despite tigger just now entering the public domain
disney's tigger didn't enter the public domain. the original one did. they can still get sued if they use the disney tigger. this is the thing that all of these moronic Black person homosexual normalgays don't seem to understand. like you.
What the frick did you read in my post?
Or did you just try to read the post and then gave up and then threw up a random response that has nothing to do with my post?
>I'm not sucking israelite dick! I swear!
try to make it less obvious please, you're embarrassing both of us
Are you actually schizophrenic?
What the frick are you even reading.
I just mentioned tigger entered the public domain this year and they already filmed a sequel in prep for that.
take your meds dude. holy shit.
>I just mentioned tigger entered the public domain this year
and it's not the disney one you fricking moron. it's irrelevant to this conversations
>what? i don't understand? how can there be two different tiggers in copyright???????
kill. your. self.
who the frick is talking about the disney one.
take your fricking meds moron
>who the frick is talking about the disney one
we're in a thread talking about disney properties going public. and for some reason you decided to bring up non disney properties going public. you might as well go into a tendie thread and ask them why nintendo doesn't own master chief yet you moronic homosexual.
okay cool, you have autism and you need to take your meds. It was a post replying to a fricking movie and my post was about the sequel using something else that just recently came out of public domain.
you should have just been more upfront with that from the start about your autism and schizophrenia, instead of going all schizo rage on me because you can't understand conversations. But I don't blame you, you were probably born this way.
But try to at least take your meds from now on and who knows, they might be able to find the cure for autism one day. Keep on dreamin buddy.
you are a genuine moron
wait until he pulls a "it was bait all along"
i hate newbies and zoomers and zoomer newbies are the worst
brown
you have to be a Black person with an IQ that low
I think
is right
you have Black person IQ.
You are genuinely moronic dude. He was talking about Pooh Blood and Honey which is getting a sequel and will include Tigger. Not the Disney Tigger obviously, how fricking stupid are you?
>MFW Tendies in their 80s and future Tendies all have a collective meltdown when Mario and Zelda become public domain
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST MAKE SUPER MARIO HRPG
'tendo will pull a Disney and bribe congress or whatever entity responsible for extending their copyright ownership.
What gets me about this is that this game was in development and probably finished a long time before the copyright actually came out. They've just been sitting on it waiting for this day.
well yeah, it's not like mickey going public this year was some sort of secret, people on the internet have been talking about it excitedly for a few years now.
When does this happen to Mario?
Could I be alive to see it happen?
>When does this happen to Mario?
like 2076
>Could I be alive to see it happen?
I mean, it's possible, I guess
>it's just the black and white versions
So it's a nothing burger?
It's the versions with actual character in them, he abuses the animals in the short
does this fricking garbage idea even still get attention? squidward suicide was novel when it was new because it was basically one of the first creepypastas and everyone was like "wow edgy spooky kid cartoons!", and then all those moronic fan theories about ash being in a coma started, and this moronic contrived ideas have been getting rehashed for nearly 20 years now with absolutely zero innovations.
I get WHY they're doing it. It's a literal joke for normoids to share around going like "look mickey is public domain now, isn't this so funny???????". I know these are never intended to be good or memorable, but why hasn't this homosexual trend died yet? It lost its edge in like 2007.
>does this fricking garbage idea even still get attention?
Blame FNAF, that was the turning point when "child's thing but spooky" because super popular and everyone has been riding that train since then.
>Blame FNAF
it was happening way before that, the only difference is that people weren't making these moronic streamer bait games. the one thing that I can give FNAF is that game genre really wasn't all that popular before it came out, even if it wasn't particularly deep. It became immediately moronic once they tried to shoehorn in a deep backstory.
To be fair, the deep backstory is what hooked everyone into the series, it was a cool detail suddenly seeing bits of backstory where there wasn't before whenever you changed the camera. Shame the story went full moron after that.
I was like 20 when the first game came out and I didn't follow it at all, but I was always under the impression that matpat was the reason why scott decided to start adding in moronic backstory stuff, as well as contributing to a lot of its success.
disney sue these morons
>Lifetime
you're right anon, when Disney died all of his works should have been in public domain.
None of those posts expressed an opposition to the concept of copyright itself, disingenuous moron
We just don't think it should last for eternity and that its period has already gotten way too long thanks to corpo bullshit
That's so low effort
>Let a lifetime pass before it falls into public use
what is a lifetime to you, exactly? most of Walt Disney's immediate family are still employed by the company in some manner, and likely will be for generations.
This already would've qualified as a parody, but they were too chickenshit to reveal the game even a day before.
>lifetime limit on copyright is perfect
it's not it encourages them to be lazy and not actually do anything and sit on their asses on one name alone
>it encourages them to be lazy and not actually do anything
Surely disney losing the rights to mickey mouse certainly would have prevented them from doing that
I don't care who's morally right and who's morally wrong according to arbitrary definitions of these terms. FRICK CORPORATIONS AND FRICK MONEY "CHANGERS" REGARDLESS OF THE IMPLICATIONS OR CONSEQUENCES. DIE DIE DIE.
Patents and copyright are intellectual usury
I know you're trolling because no serious person actually supports the system of intellectual property as it currently exists and you've succeeded because I want to kill you
Any serious person supports it. You don't even have a good argument as to why you would oppose it and anyone who saw what the Free Software movement accomplished can see its inherent folly. Imagine even being dumb enough to think that in just a mere decade, all of that shit should just be given free reign to the public.
You're a fricking moron anon.
>trying to hide the parasitization of culture by capital behind free software
If anything you're just convincing me that the GPL is a poison pill.
Is Disney running out of money and influence?
Usually they just bribe congress to extend copyright law another two decade every time it comes up
I think, and I could be wrong, but I think what happened is that specifically the OLD version of mickey that was featured in their very first cartoons is the one that's in public domain now. I believe they've successfully convinced people that their current iteration of mickey is a different character, so he still wouldn't be public for another billion years. Someone else can probably explain it better.
From what I understand, Disney used to value Mickey Mouse a lot more. It represented like a 1/4th of the companies worth. Now they own so many studios and IPs that it's not nearly worth as much as it was comparatively.
COVID hit them extremely hard and all of their recent media productions have been from mediocre to really bad, the current state of Star Wars and Marvel is proof enough.
1. The internet and online protests would've gone wild trying to stop another extension.
2. They pissed off a lot of politicians in the past few years.
3. Their PR is in the gutter right now.
They knew they had no chance this time around so they didn't even try to fight it.
maybe they should stop making all their attractive characters black. clearly nobody's buying into the charade anymore. 2023 was their first year without a billion dollar movie since like frozen 1 came out and it's obvious why.
can't wait for the 2080s-2100s when all the best games become public domain
God I love sucking corporate wiener gobble gobble gobble why yes I support Israel how did you know?
You should have attached a wojak to your post so that I could have said "I look like this and say this"
I guess it's also worth noting that those versions of minnie and pete are the ones that can be used and not later ones. Also is that specifically supposed to be clarabelle cow? or just a generic cow? not that it matters because I don't think they care much about their legacy characters like her or horrace.
>Also is that specifically supposed to be clarabelle cow? or just a generic cow?
Wikipedia cites it as Clarabelle. Was probably originally just an unnamed cow that was retroactively called Clarabelle in later books/documentaries.
Someone on Ganker said her name was Caroline cow I guess.
Can't find any references to Caroline cow aside from Fandom which doesn't cite any sources.
She's in a Disney video game
https://speedstorm.fandom.com/wiki/Caroline_Cow
Well then, I'm a moron. But in my defense, nothing about that game came up when I googled her.
I wonder if companies would be more inclined to distance themselves from their origins instead of embracing them. Like would there be any point to making official merchandise of the Steamboat Willie design when anyone can do it and would people still pride themselves on buying only "officially" made stuff?
>Like would there be any point to making official merchandise of the Steamboat Willie design when anyone can do it and would people still pride themselves on buying only "officially" made stuff?
If the official stuff is higher quality than the bootlegs/non-official stuff, why wouldn't you always go for that? That's usually why people prefer going for known brands.
I mean if the bootlegs and other 3rd party productions were of high or even better quality than official ones, of course.
That's probably also right. They're always moving ahead and focus on that which makes them the most money. If Steamboat Willie has any sort of marketing clout 95 years later we'd probably see it, but we don't.
The real question is will there be any point to making steamboat willie merchandise when you can make another million Frozen dolls instead?
>A Walt Disney comic drawn by Ub Iwerks
So what, did Ub do all the work and Disney just patted him on the back?
Yeah he was to Steve Wozniak what Walt Disney was to Steve Jobs
at least wozniak is still alive, frick the other three
That was exactly it, yes. And that's why Iwerks left Disney.
>Eventually, Iwerks and Disney had a falling out; their friendship and working partnership were severed in January 1930. According to an unconfirmed account, a child approached Disney and Iwerks at a party and asked for a picture of Mickey to be drawn on a napkin, to which Disney handed the pen and paper to Iwerks and stated, "Draw it." Iwerks became furious and threw the pen and paper, storming out.
>Nooooo how dare you ask me to draw a children's cartoon character to make a heckin childerino smile! I quit! *throws shit*
Iwerks sounds like a total homosexual, lmao.
That quote left out a small detail:
>According to one report, after regaling in his invention of Mickey, and passing on the job to Ub
this is wrong. mickey is an important character, laws should be made for iconic characters like that
How many funkos do you have on your shelf?
just 4. why
4 too many, opinion discarded.
>just 4. why
iron man, rick sanchez, spider man, and something ironic like big bird
>mickey is an important character
mickey is a joke character for anybody who doesn't love disney. homer simpson and probably even peter griffin has much more memorable media than mickey does. Only fitting that disney owns them both now.
Disney doesn't give a single frick about Mickey anymore
How do you define "iconic character"? At what point does a fictional character cross the boundary into becoming "iconic"?
Considered deliberation by a panel of experts. How do you define what's historical or protected land? Like that.
So are you implying they used the old cow name instead of the later one in a queer attempt to hold on to some assets of steamwiener silly's copyrights? Like the people making these parodies of willie might not know that the cow is copyrighted, so if they try to use her, they can still sue them?
The Disney Wiki article is all the way from 2005 and their uncited source for the name appears to come from HooZoo, a now dead Disney character encyclopedia fansite, which treated Caroline as a Clarabelle prototype.
https://web.archive.org/web/20080126091230/http://users.cwnet.com/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/clarabelle.html
that's some good detective work there anon, whether or not it was official. I appreciate the effort.
Hoozoo was one of the more useful Disney fansites in the beforetimes. I miss it and Hiddenmickeys.org
>Lists film appearances
>Doesn't include Steamboat Willie
I'm putting more effort into figuring this out than I ever cared to
>mickey mouse
You mean steamboat willie? You can't call them mickey mouse, you have to use their original name because only that version is now public domain. It's like if jumpman became public demand but not mario.
Yes you can use the name, see
Wrong.
no u
https://web.law.duke.edu/cspd/mickey/
>newbie making a mickey vidya
>Disney Lawyer : "I've been preparing my whole life for this very moment...."
Because a words words words image says so? Whatever. Some moron is going to waste his time and then his money being a moron over this.
1. The film was called Steamboat Willie, the character in it was called Mickey Mouse.
2. There was 2 other Mickey Mouse movies released in 1928 that are now public domain.
3.
I hope Disney sues these frickers
As long as it's free. Don't be a moron and give money to vultures that equally just want to milk your wallet.
>mickey mouse shit
>"It's our mouse now!"
captain hook x cruella deville rule 34 when
why did my brain put klaus shwabb there until I clicked the image?
>Quadrupling down on wokeshit after last year's string of critical and financial bombs
turning kids trans is more important than money, chud
I'm honestly fine with it. I'd be happy to see Disney go down in flames.
these companies are going to be in for some fun once the investment firms bankrolling this shit finally dry up and they realize touting random woke shit doesn't actually make any money
false. brown people rule the west now and they love wokeness. in one generation the us will be half hispanic, canada will be half indian, and europe will be half muslim
>brown people rule the west now and they love wokeness
brown people aren't the ones making these games or funding them. they ARE that the ones that these games are being made for, but maybe you should find the names of the people producing these games on Wikipedia articles, and see what it says about them in their "early life" section, usually in the first or second sentence.
>brown people aren't the ones making these games
>moronic bidengay intentionally misrepresents the point he's responding to
its so strange how you people constantly rewrite history
so much seethe and cope
"no! your wrong! the victors dont write the history books! the good guys do! that's what they taught me in my inner city youth school!"
all this cope over the pure fact that brown people are the ones making AAA games now
just call me a nazi already and frick off. you've already proven you live in a different reality.
sad sad cope
sneed
>heh it's fine for china to make everything
>what the frick the world is suddenly collapsing itself because of china AIEEEEE STOP IT RIGHT NOW
>NOOOOOOO THIS IS EVEN WORSE
if only you didn't vote for bill clit ton[if it made a damn difference lol] if voting actually made a difference you wouldn't be allowed to do it
>bill clit ton[if it made a damn difference lol]
I love when morons like you show your hand and prove that you absolutely do not belong here without any effort from us at all. Fricking kek.
>noooo u must belong on a website on a taiwanese flag weaver board
How is it possible 10000 indians and chinese can't make a good game?
There are things more important than money. Let's be honest, you'd call it admirable and based if they were burning billions to push right-wing messaging.
not really I think kanye is a fricking moron too. hell all the celebs that say stupid right-wing shit then get immediately canceled piss me off, that one chick with the big breasts that was playing female boba fett that got kicked out basically fricked us on on having a spinoff with a busty lead, I still hate that squidbillies kicked hinson off and hired some random unfitting black man, people who insist on putting politics before their work are all fricking morons in my eyes
they get more money from EGS and blackrock than they do from returns or investors anyway.
>but why would they keep doing this if they're losing money?
it's political. the family that finances their company has over one trillion US dollars in assets. They're no longer in it to make money. They don't need money. They're in it to turn the entire planet into their political direction.
>wokeshit
reminder you aren't the demographic anymore and your kind will die out within less than 10 years 🙂
>says the troony who will kill himself before 30
>projection
your family will have your birth name printed on your tombstone when you inevitably -ack yourself 🙂
no. now stop projecting your homosexual tactics onto others
I'm sure evil corporations like Disney are glad they have legions of leftists who will always love and support them
>fricking "task force"
>HQ, this is GOOF-001, the "special syrup" has been distributed in all school cafeterias in the sector. Requesting extraction now.
>Solid copy, GOOF-001. Rendezvous with Big Mouse for evac.
copyright is le bad
>lifetime
Walt Disney has been dead since 1966.
Honestly, the copyright should have expired 20-30 years after his death.
2-3 decades is more than enough for the family to profit off the creator's work. After which, I don't see the point in continuing exclusivity rights. The entire point of copyright is to encourage creativity by protecting CREATOR rights. What's there to protect after the creator dies? Let alone for over 70 years?
>What's there to protect after the creator dies? Let alone for over 70 years?
for someone else to remake the exact same thing in a modern style and continue to completely kill new creativity.
>for someone else to remake the exact same thing in a modern style and continue to completely kill new creativity.
You mean exactly what the Disney company has been doing with their IP for the past 2 or so decades?
so unironically what every major media industry has been doing with remakes rehashes and sequels out the ass?you may have a point there, if authors could change some words and call an old book a remake you bet your ass they would
Disney dying would be great but that would mean no more Kingdom Heart autismo for me and I love that shit.
I don't think I'll ever understand mass replying. I haven't ever seen it used for anything but spam and shitty attention seeking.
Mickey mouse
bitch
The problem with these is every single one does the exact same le shock angle that these edgy parodies became their own predictable uninspired cliché. I would rather someone make something good with these IP with actual sincerity. It's not like Disney can provide something like that either.
almost all of the licensed disney games up until the end of the PS1 were legitimately good games.
>but what about...
I said ALMOST all of them
It takes time to make stuff like that, whereas it's extremely easy to take a horror game template and shove Mickey Mouse in it. This game looks great and will probably add him in some form https://youtu.be/BZAVznVPMh8?si=NC8NWyn0qopFe19l
It's just the usual clamor for attention. I for one would be happy to see Mickey and Minnie added to something like Cuphead as DLC or something along those lines.
The PROBLEM is we've had like 3 generations who have never gotten to experience real transformative works from IPs that they cherish since copyright has been extended a million times over. The only thing anyone knows how to make is low effort parodies and trash.
It's been 1 day.
Of course there's only going to be low effort shit after 1 day.
I just mean in a broader sense. Winnie the Pooh but he le kills people. Wow so creative. The IP has been out there for a bit and no one made anything but a shitty edgy parody with it yet. With all the shock content I'm surprised no one made a legal porn parody yet.
I've already said it in this thread, but this is my point exactly. You've got a nearly 100 year old IP. Hardly anyone is still alive who appreciated it when it was new. The only way anyone has experienced it is through other people's works. The best thing anyone can think of to do with the IP is make a fricking horror parody or a porn parody. Who are the Winnie the Pooh lovers who want to expand on Pooh's adventures? Is the problem really that it's too old for anyone to care or is the real problem that there's no genuine interest or sincerity involved with anything anymore? It's just easier to shit out some low effort parody.
In general sincerety is a rare trait and you can really only find it somewhere like Japan. Except in cases like that stupid Palworld thing that keeps getting shilled. Pikachu with le guns is no different from Pooh but le murderer. People don't even talk to each other without layers of irony anymore. But everything is decided by a bean counter and layers of irony.
There's an animated movie and then a TV series that's an origin story when they were kids slated for this year, and then an R-rated comedy show about an adult Christopher Robins that's still TBD.
>“Christopher Robin is a disillusioned New Yorker navigating his quarter-life crisis with the help of the weird talking animals who live beyond a drug-induced portal outside his derelict apartment complex, the Hundred Acres.”
>LET'S TAKE TED BUT MAKE IT POOH INSTEAD!
Is that really the best we can come up with?
Just you wait I will make a shitty dating sim in ren'py and by god you will enjoy it
That’s what I was planning as well. Get all the lonely Disney cat wenches
Your mom is in the public domain
NO, STOP
Isn't Batman supposed to enter public domain soon? Or did that already happen?
I'd love for some classic Batman detective kino.
Like in 10 years
Yeah, in a few years I think. It's his first year of books, so you get alot of important hallmarks of the series. Batmobile, Alfred, batcave, if I recall. I know someone that has a comic book he wrote that he wants to release once he goes public domain and he walked me through the details he could use and how it wrote around things that wouldn't be available yet.
holy breeding hips batman
He’s kinda…
>so you get alot of important hallmarks of the series. Batmobile, Alfred, batcave, if I recall.
Yeah, all the good stuff about him. Batman without all the bloat like Robin and the Joker sounds like a perfect opportunity to reexplore the potential of the character as a detective vigilante in a bat costume.
>bloat like Robin and the Joke
Robin and the Joker will be a year later.
Interesting enough, Dick Grayson's and Joker's designs haven't changed all that much since their first creation, meaning there's a lot of leeway here unlike Batman's OG design.
If that happens I wonder if we'll get a slaher type movie or game from the pov of criminals slowly getting picked off by Batman. If it's a game then it'd essentially be the multiplayer from Arkham Origins.
Nope.
Skeleton Dance is public domain next year.
We gon get spooky, boys.
>*fade in from black as the camera pans up on some grass and dirt
>a 6 inch tall mickey mouse scatters across the ground. finds a piece of cheese, runs and grabs it in excitement
>giant leather shoe instantly crushes the mouse as a tall figure walks by
>camera pulls out
>the man's large silhouette is revealed
>intro to "somebody that i used to know" by gotye starts playting
>dreamworks presents:
>shrek 5
So what are chances that we can get a true remake of Epic Mickey ?
0 because half of that shit is not public domain
I like sticking it to the israelite rat as much as the next anon but this is just overdone and cliche.
>this company in paraguay won in a lawsuit against disney because they failed to copyright mickey's side profile before them
kek
I am envious of the children of the 22nd century who will be able to view and enjoy all kinds of content based on all the video game IPs from the first 40 years since their origin (basically 1970-2010 era) and all in the public domain.
>Make things go in the public domain
just means
>give free money to the third world and take it away from the first world
since all the good shit belong to first world countries.
basically chinese hands typed this post.
they should be public domaine once the creator dies, ONYL for westerners with the nationality as well as parents./ otherwise you re just giving away shit to evil shitty countries that dont deserve it and gave you nothing
Those countries don't give a shit about copyrights or trademarks in the first place.
I’ll be dead before it ever happens but I wonder what gaming will be like when Mario goes public domain.
You might be surprised by how long you'll live, there's continuing progress being made on anti-aging medicine as we speak.
Even more of those chinese Mario brain surgery games
oh you wanna play some mickey mouse shit
why almost always horror
Same reason the worst B-movies and indieshit games go for it: cheapest budgets and tension attainable.
winnie and mickey co-op game when?
the truth here is if you had the talent/skills to make a good game with public domain assets you had enough talent/skill to create a cool game/movie featuring your own OC and build your own franchise/cult.character design its not impossible when you are decent at drawing
Nah, I'm going to build a media empire off the backs of other people's works just like Disney.
nah you arent going to do shit because mickey being in public domain doesnt change shit but feel free to cope all you want
Disney shills are shaking in their boots. They fear me. They know I'm coming for them. First it's Mickey, then it'll be Donald, Goofy, I won't stop until the whole gang is under my control. First it'll be shorts, then feature length films, merchandise, theme parks, comics, video games, you name it. And Disney won't be able to do anything about it.
Goofy is next, Donald in 2030.
https://vocaroo.com/19PsvA3tyCa8
Zoom zooms and their "children's thing... but LE SPOOKY" trend are genuinely the biggest cancer in gaming. It started with Five Memes at Furries and has exploded into a billion dollar industry. Sure, you had shit like Eversion that was meant to be subversive, but this is nonstop and lazy as frick.
I'm a millennial and when I was a kid it was "children's thing...getting the shit beat out of it."
I used to draw comics of Sesame Street characters and Teletubbies dying in various bloody ways. I think they both come from the same mentality.
Creepypastas and their consequences have been a disaster for Internet culture.
Would a company have a legal argument to make that by starting work on this before the copyright technically expired, they were actually breaking copyright?
It's possible Disney could be that petty but I don't see it mattering. It's public domain now, Disney does not have the copyright anymore.
>Disney loses first Mickey hit
>they retaliate by removing all copyright laws
>they scrape the whole internet
>use their channels to stream Neverending new shows based on every other IP
Ganker really has gone to shit. I don't even want to ask what happened
Frick Disney
>t. Don Rosa
Fixed.
I'm waiting for this one.
They clearly developed this game before 1st of January and released the trailer once Steamboat Micket became public domain. There's no fricking way they did it all in like 1 day.
And that, gentlemen, is NOT fricking legal. I hope the devs spend a long fricking time in prison.
Who's going to sue them? Disney doesn't own the copyright dumbass.
But they DID own the copyright just a couple of days ago, and they STILL own the trademark.
What the developers are doing is theft, plain and simple. They waited to a point where it's "impossible to prove anything!!!" but it's still SO FRICKING OBVIOUSLY theft. They are criminals who belong behind fricking bars.
In that case they can sue anyone for using Steamboat Willie because they DID own the copyright. If you don't own it you can't sue, plain and simple.
>If you owned a $100 but you no longer do because someone stole it there's nothing you can do because you are no longer the owner
Are you actually moronic?
whats wrong with that
>Why yes I DO go to every single BLM rally my local chapter organizes, how did you know?!
>reddit spacing
Sounds perfectly logical
Ghandi once said:
"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated"
In a similar manner, the greatness of a person can be judged by the way he/she/xhe treats copyright laws.
Just because something is on the "public domain" doesn't mean it's fair to steal it from their rightful owners.
Y'all better than this.
Be better.
Do better.
>xhe
frick off back to gay town, homosexual
why not make a game with steamboat willie that isnt gore or horror and make it good?
If you need a reason to stop pirating shit, keep in mind that every thousand torrented games is the equivalent of one mortar missile sent towards Israel
people can use Pete too right?
Disney: Creates a whimsical world of joy and fantasy for all ages and generations
Millenials and reddit: grrrrr i hate le disney cuz they wont let me draw minnie+pluto porn for my patreons >:(
Why are some of you like this?
I bet some of you also mindlessly hate Nestle, despite them being the #1 producer of nutrituous and yummy food for billions worldwide.
ugly fat frick
Nestle is based they made babies more brittle when you drop them
How does the copyright law works?
I can use the design and call it mickey mouse?
And i can make a variation based on the design, but it cannot be too farfetch that you can't recognise that it's a variation of the steam boat willie mickey mouse?
>You can take anything from Steamboat Willie or any other Mickey cartoon from 1928 and reproduce it, sell it, do whatever you want from it
>If you make your own content based on Steamboat Willie you can use anything from Steamboat Willie within your story, you can change their designs, you can change the plot, make your own plots, do w/e
>HOWEVER you cannot use any other version of Mickey Mouse or characters featured within Steamboat Willie, so no 1930s Mickey, 40s Mickey, etc, all the way to modern Mickey. If you change the Steamboat Willie design it cannot look like or have features from ANY other Mickey design. You also cannot violate Disney's trademark on Mickey Mouse, so just avoid using it in ways that would confuse customers into thinking you have an official Disney product (Don't use Mickey in your logos/titles, etc)
I think that covers it
>or characters featured within Steamboat Willie
What? Why?
The other characters should be allowed to be used right?
You missed the "any other version" part. So you can't use the 1938 version of Pete, Minnie, or Mickey.
Oh sorry, I'm idiot. I thought it was (1)other version of mickey ,or (2) characters featured within steamboat willie
i find it kind of sweet that disney was paying off the government to keep steam boat willie safe from exploitive, hating hands
if someone can't utilize their intellectual property to its full potential and goes out of business because somebody else did we would have better media. it's just that simple. why not bring meritocracy to the literal marketplace of ideass?
Reminder Ron Desantis caused this. He has irrefutably won.
Copyright and patents go against free market you moron
they literally dont, moron
also your hands look brown
Only shitskins accuse other people of being shitskins.
>Do you have a loicense to draw that mouse?
Yes, free market
Disney is gay
Your shitty cash-in is gay
The only non-israeli move is to laugh at Disney and then not to pay any attention to the cash-ins.
Zoomer devs are going to ruin Mickeys image by turning him into a fricking creepy pasta in the backrooms
dislike
unfollow
try it, mouse
its started already
ill pirate them and report back on their badness once i do
Thank Christ for that Disney is the most deserving corporation for having its image ruined and diluted
they should make a super natural horror game about mickey
Y'all I just found out that our overlord Disney didn't come up with Rapunzel's story! :O Maybe we should cancel them after all, they stole xher from the Grimm siblings!!!
>People keep hyping up Mickey becoming public domain
>First we get is "what if Mickey but a slasher movie?" and "what if Mickey but a horror game?"
This is beyond sad
almost as sad as disney killing it self with woke shit and bombing at every corner
?
Disney is still profitable and all their movies this year were loved by critics
just like alan wake
I'm sure critics loved The Marvels, but we are talking about box office here my man.
Disney is a non-profit organization. They literally do NOT care about money
eheheheheeheh
Wish, their movie celebrating 100 years of Disney is a 48% on Rotten Tomatoes and capped off this year with Disney's worst performing numbers. What the frick are you talking about?
On one hand I get that you'd need to get creative to make use out of Steamboat Willie of all things if you're not doing some "le epin spokypasta" bullshit but fricking hell at least validate the existence of public domain before making that schlock.
Sad but expected. People go with the lowest common denominator and shock value for a quick cash grab while its still in the news.
just you wait until Sonichu enters public domain, I will finally be able to have my own medallion
This is going to be like Winnie the Pooh becoming public domain. People are going to care for a few weeks and make like one or two things with it then everyone will forget and not care anymore.
Why does it matter if it goes into public domain?
People have been shitting on Mickey and Disney since forever, but people suddenly acting like "we can finally draw Mickey having sex! please ignore the gorillion pics of Mickey and other Disney character in e621!"
Is that a Mickey show? No, it's South Park.
Was Disney really selling sex to little girls though? I never got the message of this episode.
if you fell for this scam and you're over 12, you should have your voting rights revoked.
They announced a new one
2 things
copyrights should last only 25 years, then go public no exceptions
secondly how high will i need to be to enjoy this game?
I dont get why every movie and game needs to be horror. Make some fan art??????
>I dont get why every movie and game needs to be horror.
cheap easy cash grab and for games the goal is to make streamer bait
If the intention of copyright laws is to make people be creative, then nothing should be copyrightable past 20 years.
You shouldn’t have to wait a life time to be able to adapt or whatever copyright material, and someone shouldn’t be able to live off of 1 book they wrote for the rest of their lives. Make more shit if you’re pissing and shitting yourself over your book suddenly being public domain.
Also I hate how people simply assume if something is open domain or if someone uses their work in any form, they suddenly can’t make money off of it. I don’t see Disney going bankrupt because some shop in China makes T-shirts with knock off Mickey Mouse. I don’t see Nintendo going bankrupt because of a fan game made 15 years ago.
>Your great grandparents bought that house 120 years ago so it shouldn’t belong to you, it should be taken away to house immigrants and refugees
This is what you sound like
You're describing a reverse morggage, which is exactly what Disney did to rob his children of the Mickey rights, yes.
>corporations are the same as a living artist