the game is broken. if you need to go into the console to fix yourself an error that the developers made, and otherwise the game isn't playable, then the game isn't playable. what you're describing isn't the TNO team having fixed haiti, it's you having found a workaround to fix haiti yourself. it's still broken and therefore the USA is still unplayable without console commands.
I literally could play it so it's not "unplayable", broken for sure, but not to the point where playing USA is impossible. Sure, it needs console commands to work around it, but until a definitive fix comes what else can we do?
my dude, if the game does not function normally and requires the player to input console commands to fix a game-breaking unresolved issue on the part of the developers, then the game is broken. what you're describing is a way to fix the game, a way the developers have inexplicably not implemented, and that the player instead needs to do themselves to make the USA playable.
And? That doesn't matter, you said the game was unplayable and I'm saying it's not. I never said it wasn't broken, it is, but if you can fix it yourself then it's not as much of an issue as, well, if you couldn't. >inexplicably
they made a long ass reddit post explaining the issue and why it's so tricky to fix
Are the reformists to blame for skeleton content? That's all these troons work on anymore. One country's worth of content a year and ten countries' worth of skeleton content. Remove Brittany, Burgundy, maybe Norway and Ostland soon and replace it all with skeleton content.
I agree with that unironically. Its a mod about the Cold War so i dont mind getting rid of all countries except Germany, US and Japan in exchange of player influenced skeleton content and expanded gameplay for said countries.
Reactionary and Panzerites should infiltrate TNO teams, promoting reach others, pretending to be reformists then boom coup the dev teams. >why
Because I want lulz and I’m surprised nobody try a counter-reformist coup yet.
The UI in this mod is so horrendously ugly I could never get into it. I read about it elsewhere and I hear the dev side of things is a shitshow and they're arbitrarily removing things like Esoteric Nazism for being too edgy.
>UI is ugly
you eventually get used to it, like I did >I hear the dev side of things is a shitshow
We can't know for sure the exact state of the dev scene. Recent leaks have shown development is progressing quite well so there's that at least. >arbitrarily removing things like Esoteric Nazism for being too edgy
They aren't removing Esoteric Nazism per se, it's just getting wrapped under National Socialism instead of being its own category
Majority agrees with you, see a fricking Reddit or farms for example. This server has turned into a big troon circlejerk that doesn't represent popular opinion.
what the frick does this even mean >artificial subculture
great more schizo homosexualry about george soros funded lgbt propaganda turning everyone gay
>LE SOROS XDDDDD
why are you stuck regurgitating right-wing talking points from 2016
if you think the rise of troonyism is natural i've got a bridge to sell you
10 months ago
Anonymous
>why are you stuck regurgitating right-wing talking points from 2016
because you are? lmao moron
10 months ago
Anonymous
trannies were practically a non-issue back in 2016 though
this freak shit only really exploded in the last two or three years
also speaking of soros he's giving his empire to his dipshit millenial hipster son lmfao
look at this guy >sup brah >wanna smoke brah
10 months ago
Anonymous
no you people were here saying the exact same shit, you're just 8 years old so you don't remember it
10 months ago
Anonymous
lmfao
10 months ago
Anonymous
You'll be surprised how many of these people have no conception of the recent past. The same people making jokes about blacks stopped halfway through the Obama administration and will now aggressively go after you if you find them funny. They might have actually forgotten there used to be a world without troons
10 months ago
Anonymous
yeah we used to have a website without esls until all you third world homosexuals showed up after 2016, now frick off
10 months ago
Anonymous
proof of oldhomosexualry?
no, just trust me bro doesn't count
10 months ago
Anonymous
>being here before 2016 is "oldhomosexualry" to you
dumb esl election tourist
10 months ago
Anonymous
but you can't even prove you were there then
all you are is some dude LARPing about the good old days you never even experienced
Ganker has always been an ocean of piss
if you believe anything else you're either wearing rose tinted glasses or you're a LARPer
10 months ago
Anonymous
There's a guy running around different threads spamming >esl everywhere. This board is so low traffic that he has to spam it in every thread in order to have fun
10 months ago
Anonymous
but you can't even prove you were there then
all you are is some dude LARPing about the good old days you never even experienced
Ganker has always been an ocean of piss
if you believe anything else you're either wearing rose tinted glasses or you're a LARPer
ESL is just the liberal substitution for Black person that is still socially acceptable to say. Eventually they will overuse it and have to find some other word.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>being here before 2016 is "oldhomosexualry" to you
dumb esl election tourist
I don't get people saying Burgundy is a core part of the mod. It literally does nothing during the entire mod and sometimes when I play I even forget it exists until the collapse reminds me.
its the same shit everytime >thing is added cause Panzer or some shit like that >doesnt make any sense, super buggy and is not even that fun >team decides that removing it to add actually good content is better then fixing it >"wah, you're removing the soul of the mod"
no, they're removing Burgundy because it messes with player's games and the idea that Burgundy is a shithole while at the same time, Le Puppetmaster is inconsistent.
that reminds me, there was a reddit thread a while ago about removing the Great Asian War, I think that's a great idea and more in keeping with the mod being about the Cold War and proxy conflicts. It's moronic to think that a country with it's economy so closely tied to Japan with a political class monitored by Japan, would risk going to war with a nuclear power.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I think GAW is okay. Japan is a country of 100 million or so lording it over about 1-2 billion Asians of varying types, and eventually some of them are going to get rich and powerful enough to ask "why are we letting the Japanese do this to us?". I don't think China, even with all the warlords behind it, could rebuild itself to take on the Japs in the 70s though. Maybe post-1980. And even then they'd probably try to get independence peacefully before going full TJD
10 months ago
Anonymous
I think GAW is okay. Japan is a country of 100 million or so lording it over about 1-2 billion Asians of varying types, and eventually some of them are going to get rich and powerful enough to ask "why are we letting the Japanese do this to us?". I don't think China, even with all the warlords behind it, could rebuild itself to take on the Japs in the 70s though. Maybe post-1980. And even then they'd probably try to get independence peacefully before going full TJD
The GAW should only be the absolute worse conclusion to a pan-asian conference to negotiate the status of China within the CPS. Especially now that there's gonna be true collab leaders in TSS that genuinely believe in true pan-asian solidarity.
knowing how batshit the Japanese were before they got buck broken by the Americans then I wouldn't be suprised if they started using nukes in China as if they were possessed by MacArthur.
>Turkey doesn't have content >Italy content is old and shit >French state and related countries don't have content >Alexander Mann KINO events were gutted >A lot of the reichcomissariats don't have focus trees at all >Almost nothing you can interact with the central and south america countries >Lots of russian warlords lack fluff or even skeleton content >Chaina has almost nothing besides a few thingies here and there >Japan got gutted
TF is wrong with this mod man? A huge chunk of Europa lacks focus tree and content, yet those morons are thinking about removing stuff that works and leaving unfinished shit behind, like holu hell
Also tf happened with Madagascar, why did they had to ruin it?
Why didn"t Panzer muster a bunch of schizos and made his own version of TNO?
What do you think the devs are doing? Literally everything you listed is being worked on, except maybe Alexander Men. >Also tf happened with Madagascar, why did they had to ruin it?
How did they ruin it? If anything the new proxy is more engaging
>Being worked
My man, Italy and Turkey got almost no content for a whole time, and they are supposed to be this big fading coalition which still holds some power in the cold war.
Turkey has the whole armenian and israeli shtick, yet, null, nothing, they just exist. They may say that shit being worked on, but they would need to at least release something before removing everything. How tf TNO is that barren after all those years?
> Why didn"t Panzer muster a bunch of schizos and made his own version of TNO?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2326030123
He even has a guy named The Black Sun, along with abysmal team management qualities and always failing on deadlines. The problem is that Panzer IS the bunch of schizos and would rather make 300 page lore docs than make a mod with working game design or any actual code.
Turkey is actually close to release. Also >removing everything
I can count with one hand the number of nations with trees they have gutted. That's hardly "everything"
>Being worked
My man, Italy and Turkey got almost no content for a whole time, and they are supposed to be this big fading coalition which still holds some power in the cold war.
Turkey has the whole armenian and israeli shtick, yet, null, nothing, they just exist. They may say that shit being worked on, but they would need to at least release something before removing everything. How tf TNO is that barren after all those years?
Vyatka and Dem Komi can join but only as partners. There's also Magadan which enjoys direct US support.
Alternatively play with the 2wrw submod as Novosibirsk and elect the Liberals in the 2nd election. They fully join the OFN alongside their entire sphere.
Has their been any word if the false dawn team has decided to cut out the Iberian wars content or no? Because there's no way their releasing this year if they have to include it
France should reach Great Power status and get the option to develop nuclear arms if it's able to reclaim the motherland and seize Burgundian lands. Seriously, why is Italy an option in the Great Power/Superpower map but not France?
homie they've been economically exploited by germany for 2 decades, and Burgundian lands are so shitty they actually give france a huge debuff after they retake it
Meanwhile Italy won WW2, has a huge empire, controls mediterranean and oil trade and is overall in a much stronger position than fricking France.
>TFL is being delayed for fricking Turkey
Frick these cretins.
No they aren't? Reading comprehension dude, they clearly are saying the order of patches is Britain+Ukraine > Map+ODF > One of said candidates.
The U.S. should get the option to meddle more in Europe and influence a nation over to the OFN sphere, like it does with all the proxy wars in Asia. Imagine Ukraine breaking free of its dependence on the Reich and installing a democratic regime, and the U.S. being given options to flood Ukraine with small arms and heavy equipment, to the point of driving off the Nazis for good.
The devs have other plans for US forpol. Basically America will be more focused on containing the other powers and will be much more cautious of expanding its influence to other continents. Also things like Italy, France and Malaya in the OFN won't be possible in the future
Italy because they will have their own sphere and won't play second fiddle to another power, France because they will be more closely tied to the Reich and Malaya because according to the devs them joining doesn't make sense
>Malaya because according to the devs them joining doesn't make sense
i agree, Japan would invade them immeadiately considering how important Singapore and that strait in general are
>France and Malaya in the OFN won't be possible in the future
so even if de gaulle reclaims the birthright he just tells the yanks to frick off? oh god are they axing free france
I have to assume that other anon is trolling. No way the devs would ruin the game by stripping OFN of potential HUGE major states. Part of the fun of playing as the U.S. is seeing how big the OFN can get, and if you can't even get REAL nations like Italy/France in it ... why fricking bother?
>she/her >maddy pfp
people should be legally banned from retconning their own works to insert weird sexuality/gender shit
10 months ago
Anonymous
GAW is being removed, expect the 3SJW instead. No more content-wide revolt against Japan’s colonial holdings, just head on head economic war between Japan and China.
It’s a troon.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Kino if true.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>It's a troon
Yes it's pretty safe to assume any "she/her" who plays Hearts of Iron isn't actually a woman
Detente between the US and Japan makes zero sense, their relationship should be more contentious than that of the Reich and the US (or the Reich and Japan), I don't understand why it's even an option.
A detente makes sense since Japan is willing to surrender symbolic gains for more economic ones, you can already see that in the treaty port negotiations. It's in their best interest since it means America lessens its support for anti-Japanese groups within the empire.
>bound to europe
they're axing all the overseas german possessions aren't they
Even when Panzer was the lead dev Germany lost its African possessions and Germany's entire story was about trying to maintain it's European sphere. Excluding the Oil Crisis, cause that's meant to be a proxy war free for all.
>Basically America will be more focused on containing the other powers and will be much more cautious of expanding its influence to other continents.
Can they develop the rest of the mod or are they going to keep reworking America to match every recent political trend? >Oh Biden became President? Time to rework America so Democratic Imperialism is good? >People are talking about walkable cities? Stop all dev to make a new president to circlejerk about it >Oh domestic politics are turning against Biden's foreign policy, time to rework America again!
>Time to rework America so Democratic Imperialism is good?
When did they do this? >Stop all dev
Hart was singlehandedly coded by Mango in 3 months. And either way, USA dev doesn't stop other teams's development due to how it's all organized. >Oh domestic politics are turning against Biden's foreign policy, time to rework America again!
Meds. They're revising the US foreign policy because it's just a copypaste of their OTL forpol, which doesn't fit in TNO because this Cold War is vastly different. And even then it won't imply a complete rework of the proxies.
Pic related for Japan and the proxies
>because it's just a copypaste of their OTL forpol
Not at all, TNO's foreign policy is way more aggressive than the US' real life foreign policy, you can occupy over half of Africa for fricks sake. If you think TNO's foreign policy, which is much closer to the modern US' foreign policy, is the same as the US' Real Life Cold War foreign policy, then I'm afraid to say you have been psyoped.
I meant the use of the doctrine of Rollback, which is the strategy the US used against communist countries. Of course the US is more aggressive in TNO, partly because of Germany being more hated than the SU and partly to make gameplay more engaging.
Detente between the US and Japan makes zero sense, their relationship should be more contentious than that of the Reich and the US (or the Reich and Japan), I don't understand why it's even an option.
A detente makes sense since Japan is willing to surrender symbolic gains for more economic ones, you can already see that in the treaty port negotiations. It's in their best interest since it means America lessens its support for anti-Japanese groups within the empire.
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Even when Panzer was the lead dev Germany lost its African possessions and Germany's entire story was about trying to maintain it's European sphere. Excluding the Oil Crisis, cause that's meant to be a proxy war free for all.
Détente between US-Japan while Japan is funding Pan-Africanists shows these younger devs are completely out of touch with how aggressively anti-Japanese Americans actually were against Japan until the 1990s/early 2000s.And that was as a loyal puppet, much less a rogue superpower that nuked US soil.
>take a game with the africa not-vietnam and all the other cool shit >strip it down >germany is only in europe, and U.S. can't touch europe >U.S. can't actually impact anything outside 3 wait 2 asian countries, and the carribean for some fricking who-knows reason
They're destroying the fricking mod.
If you are on the TNO dev sever (Like I am) it's really funny to see the constant, neverending b***hing over how the redditors wopon't stop complaining over the removal of purple or Guangdong or whatever. They are incapable of telling their own shitty fanbase to frick off in no uncertain terms, so they are relegated to whining on the dev server.
My advice to them is just to stop apologizing, and maybe even accelerate the reworks just to get these types to go away.
What's the whining about Guangdong?
The purple is whatever, I see a strong argument for why it should stay in that all the purple-themed memes like pic related become obsolete. But it's really a nonissue. To me, I'd rather the devs pretend "we're too busy to address those complaints because we're making you new content" even if they're all just sitting on their hands or whatever it is they do all the time.
Shut the frick up you attention whoring coward. I'm sick and tired of hearing from your anonymous bullshit on the dev discord and having to put up with your edgelord schtick. If you're going to write vitriolic abrasive leftist word vomit in the complaint box about everyone on the team, do us all a favour and do it in person next time you fricking homosexual.
>(I'm thinking Himmler or Heydrich) could also collapse Germany during the oil crisis.
But this isn't caused by player. Currently, Japan's Empire can slowly be chipped away by the U.S. and eventually Yunnan (if Yunnan wins), and it would have been cool if the remaining Japanese-aligned countries had events that could make them flip if certain conditions were right. Same with Germany collapsing if the U.S. player was good enough, slowly fighting Germany and chipping away at it until it collapsed. But Germany collapsing "by default" during a pre-planned oil crisis event is just lame.
it seems like the devs are removing everything "war" from "cold war" and leaving the superpowers in tact and not really able to truly impact each other and cripple each other through 10+ years of cold war hijinks. And that sucks.
>But this isn't caused by player.
It could be if the trigger is them losing all or many of the proxy wars in the Middle East, like Fascist Italy's bad end in PW.
I guess but how would you do it instead? Most of the members of the Pakt are colonies deep in Europe where the US can't reliably reach. The only countries the OFN can plausibly get are Britain, Ireland, Iberia, Turkey (only as partner) and maybe the Scandinavian countries. Italy has its own sphere of influence and is not very friendly with the US after decades of demonizing propaganda, France is firmly chained to the Reich because it literally borders it and the Balkans are too far and more likely to join Italy or Turkey. Considering this, it's very hard to come up with ways to dismantle Germany's sphere. I believe that's why they changed the US's forpol to be more defensive instead of aggressive. Instead of trying to make the nazi regime, stop them from getting in our backyard, isolate them, and wait until the regime eventually dies.
10 months ago
Anonymous
make the nazi regime collapse*
10 months ago
Anonymous
That's just creating limitations. The devs could easily have Spain, France, or Italy (or all three) join OFN if various conditions are set. There's nothing inherently bad about Italy joining OFN, despite "decades of demonizing propaganda" (decades of propaganda doesn't really do as much as one might think), same with France. But if neither Italy nor France can join OFN, then Spain could be a weak link that cracks and has a chance to switch sides. Then once the U.S. has a foothold in Europe, it makes destabilizing Germany all that much easier.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Iberia will still join the OFN, with Burgundy removed Germany has a direct border with France, Dem Italy will align closer with Japan due to years of good relations after WW2.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>"decades of demonizing propaganda"
It's not just that, Italy considers itself a great power with its own sphere of influence and ambitions and see little value on kowtowing to the Americans. And they're chummier with the CPS anyways. >France
Again, they're too closely tied to Germany and any indications of France ditching them for the OFN would be met with invasion.
Also, Devs said that USA getting HMMLR England in the OFN would enbolden them and make them more confident in European operations or something like that.
Germarny collapsing should be based on several factors, including OFN making a significant headway in Europe. But they're deleting all that and making it so that the only European country that joins OFN is England. That's so fricking stupid.
Hell, even if for some reason the devs REFUSED to consider having a major European country (other than UK) join OFN, you could still use the peripheral Reichspakt countries to make a narrative that has an offensive-based U.S. gunning for Germany. >England, Ireland >Norway >Spain >Turkey >Europe surrounded by OFN >U.S. can choose further blockade options on Germany that makes the likelihood of collapse stronger.
It's just not very fun to play as fricking America and be forced to stay on the defensive when America's position isn't that weak. It has Australia, South Africa, decent relations with India, etc. It's the economically strongest country in the world by far. It's not like it's really up against its back against Japan and Germany, especially since Japan doesn't do ANYTHING(?) aggressive to the U.S.
good to see that they also fix the incorrect border in the east from the war between slovakia and hungary in 1939.
In the original TNO lore Romania went to war with Hungary and Horthy did something to piss Hitler off so he'd look the other way, and they retook all their land. I don't think the Slovak borders changed though
If I remember correctly Hitler at some point said Romania and Hungary would inevitably come to blows again and Romania with someone like Antonescu in charge would be sure to win. So it makes sense he'd relatively be fine with it.
But Hitler would have the ability to freeze the conflict and say that both of them need to save their troops to defend against the Pakt's enemies. The USA and USSR did this all the time irl
No one gives a frick about your shitty team drama. Leak a git or something or frick off. We may be autists but in the 1,000 hours in hoi4 autism not internet drama autism.
>I dont think we need all that GUIs and events tbh.
Incredibly cringe take, half of TNO's fun is the GUIs and the narrative events. More, in this case, it's better. >Quality we had was good enough.
This has to be a joke. I literally can't go back to play other US presidents after playing Hart because of how dull they are.
The hype and praise surrounding Hart seems incredibly astroturfed.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Have you played his path at least? It mogs every other president imo
10 months ago
Anonymous
says more about the other US presidents then it does him, but it is true even if it is broken
10 months ago
Anonymous
Frick off, i'm not going to play any leftist path no matter how much effort you put into it
10 months ago
Anonymous
>leftist
homie what? He's a liberal democrat, not a fricking socialist
10 months ago
Anonymous
>liberal democrat
So a leftist
10 months ago
Anonymous
you're the same ideologically stunted moron who thinks conservative = nazi
10 months ago
Anonymous
>he lets ideology get in the way of fun
you're like the snowflakes that refuse to play as the nazis because they're too scary and evil, ngmi dude
10 months ago
Anonymous
TNO is a political wish fulfillment, i'm not going to have fun reading 100th event about building walkable BBC's or owning dixie chuds.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Your loss buddy. Kissinger's event chain is my absolute favorite in the US.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I never play democracy in base HOI and I always go far left or far right, but as Brazil I had a ton of fun just getting the center left and center right to cooperate with one another and stabilize the economy while building the highway. I just wish there was a little content so I could have something to do while waiting for construction to finish.
>half of TNO's fun is the GUIs and the narrative events
For the US you have: CIA interface, proxy wars interface, elections interface, party split interface, legislation inerface and different mechanics for each president before 1972. Enough for me. >I literally can't go back to play other US presidents after playing Hart because of how dull they are
Well, i can. If i want to be racist, ill play Wallace, for a full libtard experience ill pick Kennedy or Harrington and so on. Harts GUI is fricking stupid. Im trying to raise numbers that means nothing outside his personal GUI: no GDP growth or quality of life improvments in general.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>GDP growth or quality of life improvments
Plain wrong, his city gui directly affects his "ambitions of a political machine" nat spirit which does exactly that
10 months ago
Anonymous
It is. Like i said, no gdp growth or quality of life improvments you could see on societal development panel.
Listen, i see youre big fan, so tell me how to deal with the bloated buget playing Hart? It kills my city every time and i dont know how to deal with it.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>no gdp growth or quality of life improvments
Here you can see the effects. It reduces inflation, which boosts your growth, increases policy effectiveness and reduces poverty, among other things, based on the status of the city and your overall progress in transportation, civil rights and urban dev. > bloated buget
This happens when you're budget is too high, so do focuses and put buildings that increase budget costs. Budget is best when it's yellow as going too high or low is detrimental.
10 months ago
Anonymous
And here's how it looks with almost everything perfect >Budget is best when it's yellow
Scratch that I just found out there's a green "flourishing" value before bloated.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Look, no povery change and misc.costs, cause this shit is bugged. Without all those GUIs the focus effects would be directly connected to the economy dedicated code.
I was asking how to reduce budget, not to increase it. How to deal with it if its bloated already?
10 months ago
Anonymous
To clarify, this isn't a from a full playthrough, I used debug and focus.autocomplete to get hart and boost the city values.
No poverty change because I couldn't get poverty and homelessness to green by focus.autocompleting, that's why I said "almost" perfect. Misc. Costs are increased by passing certain bills iirc, which I didn't bother to do. >how to reduce budget
Bloated means you have much more budget than what you need so you need to increase the city costs to balance it. There are 4 values: Red ("In the mud", your budget is too low), Orange (not as bad but could be better), Yellow (neutral) Green ("Flourishing", you want this), Red ("Bloated, bad because of what I said).
10 months ago
Anonymous
>To clarify, this isn't a from a full playthrough, I used debug and focus.autocomplete to get hart and boost the city values
I did the same. Youre telling me it would be different in a normal playthrough? >so you need to increase the city costs to balance it
I completed all the focuses via console choosing the most costly variants, but my effectivness is still decreasing due to bloated budget. You believe it would be different in a normal playthrough too?
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Youre telling me it would be different in a normal playthrough?
In a full playthrough you pass bills + you have the weekly/monthly ticks the buildings give. >I completed all the focuses via console choosing the most costly variants, but my effectivness is still decreasing due to bloated budget.
Efficiency will always decrease but that alone is not a problem as you can easily offset that with focuses and buildings. I'd say it all depends on timing and what focuses you prioritize since the start of the playthrough.
This is just speculation but I guess they realized if people endured the TT wait, they could take the time to rework old plans or come up with better mechanics like what happened with Dem Italy or Manchuria
Never got around to doing Hart because Us early game is so boring for the n-th time. What's the best strat for electing him with a good majority but a non-fricked country? I like the idea of non-segragationist Wallace into Hart, but I think that will give too much power to the NPP-C and the Dixiecrats, no? Also what should I do with proxy wars leading up to electing Hart?
Easiest is electing Wallace and getting him impeached. You can easily get dem majority that way, even if you win every proxy as the NPP.
But the absolute strongest US you can make is RFK > Hart. With a bit of luck, save-scumming, cheesing and planning you can profit from the big bonuses and GDP growth of RFK's bills while still getting a good RD senate. Here's my strategy: >During Nixon time stall CRA as long as you can and campaign as the NPP >Stall SAW until RFK wins elections, then win it as MacCormack before inauguration to get instant dem support. >After inauguration inmediately do a leadership play to put the less popular NPP N and NPP P caucus leaders in charge. >You can win every proxy np >If you campaigned well you should have enough to pass glorious bill >Rush the left tree until you get COINTELPRO decisions. Don't silence the Attorney General >Immediately switch to right tree and rush the bills. If you can pass them, good, more buffs, if not, it's okay because they give dem support. >IMPORTANT: Always click RFK's poverty and education decisions and whatever that decreases NPP unity and makes him more liberal. >At this point you just continue the tree hoping you get killed soon, preferrably before 2nd senate elections (always campaign as the RDs as RFK) >If you don't get killed before elections, run's over lol. >If you did, good. Now do nothing as Thurmond to get Rev. Civil rights later (and avoid nasty debuffs) >68 elections are always tense. It's a close call and you should always save at the start of the election season for if you do somehow lose. Picking MCS as NPP candidate should give Hart an edge but you should save and reload to see if Harrington is more optimal. >If all's good Hart should've won. >Senate is a bit meh, I usually get around 30 Rs, 25 Ds, 25 Ps and 15 Ns more or less. But still enough to pass every bill. >Just Focus Autocomplete the civil rights reaction tree. If you don't your economy will get irreversably fricked.
speaking of hart, isn't >RFK -> Thurmond but doing nothing -> Hart
the only way to get revolutionary civil rights without going with gus hall?
Easiest is electing Wallace and getting him impeached. You can easily get dem majority that way, even if you win every proxy as the NPP.
But the absolute strongest US you can make is RFK > Hart. With a bit of luck, save-scumming, cheesing and planning you can profit from the big bonuses and GDP growth of RFK's bills while still getting a good RD senate. Here's my strategy: >During Nixon time stall CRA as long as you can and campaign as the NPP >Stall SAW until RFK wins elections, then win it as MacCormack before inauguration to get instant dem support. >After inauguration inmediately do a leadership play to put the less popular NPP N and NPP P caucus leaders in charge. >You can win every proxy np >If you campaigned well you should have enough to pass glorious bill >Rush the left tree until you get COINTELPRO decisions. Don't silence the Attorney General >Immediately switch to right tree and rush the bills. If you can pass them, good, more buffs, if not, it's okay because they give dem support. >IMPORTANT: Always click RFK's poverty and education decisions and whatever that decreases NPP unity and makes him more liberal. >At this point you just continue the tree hoping you get killed soon, preferrably before 2nd senate elections (always campaign as the RDs as RFK) >If you don't get killed before elections, run's over lol. >If you did, good. Now do nothing as Thurmond to get Rev. Civil rights later (and avoid nasty debuffs) >68 elections are always tense. It's a close call and you should always save at the start of the election season for if you do somehow lose. Picking MCS as NPP candidate should give Hart an edge but you should save and reload to see if Harrington is more optimal. >If all's good Hart should've won. >Senate is a bit meh, I usually get around 30 Rs, 25 Ds, 25 Ps and 15 Ns more or less. But still enough to pass every bill. >Just Focus Autocomplete the civil rights reaction tree. If you don't your economy will get irreversably fricked.
Never got around to doing Hart because Us early game is so boring for the n-th time. What's the best strat for electing him with a good majority but a non-fricked country? I like the idea of non-segragationist Wallace into Hart, but I think that will give too much power to the NPP-C and the Dixiecrats, no? Also what should I do with proxy wars leading up to electing Hart?
Vote pig is a crap US rework the US lead's doing. Removes the NPP, RDs, LBJ presidency, among other things. still has Nixon acting like a schizo for no reason (OTLism) and leaking Kennedy's poor health so he doesn't run against him. there's probably more but i forget half of it, it's all moronic either way
>still has Nixon acting like a schizo for no reason (OTLism)
This pisses me off because Nixon could have unironically been a great president if he had won in 1960 (which he should have and tbh his later paranoia is understandable knowing how hard he got fricked in 1960). This should be what happens in TNO - Nixon being a great pragmatic president that can choose different approaches to solve the countries problems with the ability to be quite wholesome on the whole civil rights part and also a Nazi-killing interventionist to boot (kind of like MCS but RD). At best we have a weaker version of that with Bennet.
No one cares about fricking Bongland, which is just US 2 anyway
Double so for Ukraine
Fricking release Fascist Italy already
10 months ago
Anonymous
Adds a demo for both. it's not even full content.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Can't get a secret path that involves defending the British Isles or the fields of Ukraine, not even an event >It's either be defeated or slurp the German boot under collabs
>Long Yun
Character assassination >Glenn
Character assassination and going to mars would've been impossible with '72 technology >Heydrich
A superpower being automatically knocked out of the cold war isn't fun at all if you play as anyone else. And the new plans look to be more interesting than "*Gasp* Nazism is... le bad???? *kills himself*" anyways >Atlantropa
Physically impossible but we already had this debate last year
Still prefer going full Ahab over slurping my enemies boot and then claiming that I never liked it after decades pass and my enemy is well off without me
10 months ago
Anonymous
HMMLR content will come eventually when they're done with the collabs, don't worry
10 months ago
Anonymous
Learning about Childhood's end after seeing that super event makes me want HMMLR to always win. No way should they be railroaded into defeat and occupation after America backs off, giving them something if they push back Germany would put a smile on my face knowing that Britain can stand on it's own without anyone but itself, regaining some pride it once had.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Bro the army is literally a bunch of unionist militia, they can't compete against the full force of the wehrmacht. They don't even have a navy that can protect the channel
>1. Reworks an existing country >2. One half of a content update promised almost a year ago (Lech i Rus) which is itself one half of a content update promised several years ago (Europas Narben)
Tell your fellow trannies to open up applications so I can make all this content while you're busy dilating or whatever
You're missing the point. He said devs are ignoring developing new nations in favor of reworking the US (which is stupid considering how TNO is organized) when the very next patch in fact adds content for a new nation (Ukraine). The exact amount of content is irrelevant to the argument. And I didn't even mention the fact that Adhemar's Brazil, Mexico, Manchuria and Turkey are also fairly close to completion.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Brazil
South America, does not matter >Mexico
More Latin America wank, does not matter >Manchuria
We already have Guadong >Turkey
The only interesting one on this list, but where the frick is Italy?
10 months ago
Anonymous
>I-I-It doesn't count!!!!!!!
Frick off if you don't have a better argument. >We already have Guadong
The fact that you think Manchuria is like Guangdong shows that you don't know shit.
Close to completion = if you're lucky we'll finish one of these by 2024
Adhemar is literally in its very final stages
10 months ago
Anonymous
>argument
This is not a debate, I don't care if you post a logical proof, TNO is shit now
10 months ago
Anonymous
>I don't care if you're right
lol
10 months ago
Anonymous
Logic is a completely overrated way of proving who is right. With the right proof you can justify literally anything with logic.
10 months ago
Anonymous
My logic is substantiated with evidence though
10 months ago
Anonymous
*your subjective opinion
10 months ago
Anonymous
Everything I've said is based on what has been leaked.
10 months ago
Anonymous
If Adhemar is close to final stages then release that shit before the stupid fricking map rework.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Look I don't know exactly how close it is. I only know is extremely close because of the leaks that have been posted here. If the devs plan to releade the map rework before Adhemar then it's because they feel the latter won't be ready yet
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Isn't a dev >Defending the team
They do it for free.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I like the mod and the new direction it's taking, cry about it
[...] >literally in its very final stages >I don't know exactly how close it is
According to Roundtable Notes from May Adhemar was 90% done. That's why I said close
10 months ago
Anonymous
Well with timelines like those I understand why they never commit to dates anymore lmao
Panzer may be a fricked up individual but at least he's managed to put out like 3 mods
10 months ago
Anonymous
I think it's because it will also come with new mechanics like SA Cold War and new proxies and skeleton content, that's why even though Adhemar is probably completed by now, the update as a whole isn't.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Why is there even a South American cold war?
Shouldn't SA be a battleground in the wider Americo-Japanese-German cold war instead of having its own segregated special snowflake cold war?
10 months ago
Anonymous
It can also be that at the same time. For example, Brazil is aligned with the OFN, but it's also a big regional power, while Argentina is the same but Italy-aligned (or Pro-Pakt if Peron). Then Brazil winning in the SACW would mean the OFN has also won by proxy. But those allegiances aren't static. We know from Adhemar's design loc that his Brazil can switch to favor the Pakt due to some spy frickery Germany pulls. And it's also been confirmed that there will be a CPS Brazil. Of course I could be completely wrong, but I think this makes sense.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>I-I-It doesn't count!!!!!!!
Frick off if you don't have a better argument. >We already have Guadong
The fact that you think Manchuria is like Guangdong shows that you don't know shit.
[...]
Adhemar is literally in its very final stages
>literally in its very final stages >I don't know exactly how close it is
10 months ago
Anonymous
>oops Paradox just released the Finland DLC so we'll have to spend another 6 months updating TNO and then another 6 months updating the Adhemar content
10 months ago
Anonymous
NSB compatibility patch (2022-01-21) was released in 4 months after NSB (2021-11-23) and the BBA comp patch (2023-02-21) was released 5 months after BBA (2022-09-27) but that's because they decided to release Guangdong first instead of waiting even more. Six months would be an exaggeration based on past events.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Oh shit sorry 5 months not 6 haha that makes a world of difference.
Point being, after the Ukraine/UK update, unless we get a September Surprise, there will be no more content until February if we're lucky. So in 2023, we will have received 1.5 countries' worth of content, 1 rework, about 20 different skeletons, and a bunch of miscellaneous bloat. And people somehow defend this.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Close to completion = if you're lucky we'll finish one of these by 2024
The removal of the NPP is going to mindbreak the TNO r*ddit so much that I want it to happen.
Every time something big is removed, without fail the bootlickers backtread and go towards something else.
>well they're not removing the bogi smerti! >well it was too unrealistic anyway why do you care
>they'll never take out atlantropa! >well it hinders development of med content so it was a good thing
>glenn is an integral part of the mod >actually his path was stupid and they're making better space content anyway (never ever lol)
>removing burgsys is a meme, it's literally one of the mod's defining features >actually it was always meant to be a subid and it was stupid
>they'll never get rid of burgundy, it was quite literally one of the things that made the mod big >uhm it was never good anyway why do you care that it's gone
>the NPP is the only real thing seperating TNOtl from OTL and you're mindbroken for thinking they'll cut it >actually the premise was stupid and it should never exist
>you fricking devs constantly whitewash the nazis.
That is because the reworking Devs are French and British Neofasicts who unironically think working with Germany would give them rewards. It's why they hated Panzer's Germany supporting Celtic Nations and both Britain and France utterly ripped apart
[...]
Vote pig is a crap US rework the US lead's doing. Removes the NPP, RDs, LBJ presidency, among other things. still has Nixon acting like a schizo for no reason (OTLism) and leaking Kennedy's poor health so he doesn't run against him. there's probably more but i forget half of it, it's all moronic either way
>Vote pig
wut's that
Vote pig will be the best update in the history of TNO.
Harrington passes Rev CRA
The only good thing about this update will be if they put in Dark Nixon's perfect playthrough where he becomes President for life after winning every proxy war
They better not frick up and remove Dark Nixon before their update even gets out
Going by the leaked US trees again I noticed this. Looks like there'll be a reverse Bay of Pigs, with the US aiding Castro against a fascist-aligned Batista.
My guess is it's an attempt to make the Caribbean proxies more dynamic. Like if Castro wins with US aid, then Puerto Plata will be easier for the US and vice versa.
Why is it that this mod continuously removes things and people consider it a good thing?
I liked Yun's path because I envisioned him as Ahab and the entirety of Asia against him as white whales
I liked Glenn because it was fun to go to Mars and reclaim our spot as top dog in a broken world
I liked Heydrich because of the narrative it had on Nazism and what it really meant
I liked Atlantropa because it already set the stage for what I was getting into
Glenn was alright. Heydrich was excellent but could've been expanded into what this post said which'll make things more interesting to see how the German populace reacts to the gates of hell consuming Germany (https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/mmwtmb/a_suggestion_for_heydrichs_ending/). Yun is okay, the rework's are alright but I prefer going full Ahab and having all of Asia come at me at once. Atlantropa being expanded on should've been top priority, having all Mediterranean nations put their quarrelling aside and deal with the hell Germany brought to them, with endings that involve all of them reaping the rewards of irrigating the deserts formed, or horrible ending with the dam being blown by some terrorist and passage through the Mediterranean sea being blocked by this crisis, impacting everyone's economy.
>Why is it that this mod continuously removes things and people consider it a good thing?
Rule by nerds, they secretly take pleasure in making their audience miserable. It's why you need to bully nerds so they don't try it
>Long Yun
Character assassination >Glenn
Character assassination and going to mars would've been impossible with '72 technology >Heydrich
A superpower being automatically knocked out of the cold war isn't fun at all if you play as anyone else. And the new plans look to be more interesting than "*Gasp* Nazism is... le bad???? *kills himself*" anyways >Atlantropa
Physically impossible but we already had this debate last year
Wasn't the original Yun's character twisted to fit the setting of the world though? Despite the rework changing that up a bit to give him a happy ending, I feel that the original character worked well with the kind of world TNO was. Still, giving Yun the ending with Sun Fo is good enough, knowing that his original ideals and hopes for the nation he had since way back when would come true after chasing away the second sun from his land.
Eitheir you guys are baiting or you're genuine plebs who don't know shit about TNO, it's devs and their vision for the mod. You're literally spewing the same dumb arguments the redditards make, sprinkled with copious amount of troony obsession.
Their vision is interesting and fun content with a lot of depth, both mechanical and narrative, with a plausible and logical justification and with as few plotholes and handwaves as possible.
That's it, summed up in a sentence. If they're reworking old content, is to fit this new vision so the mod is more consistent.
>Their vision is interesting and fun content with a lot of depth, both mechanical and narrative, with a plausible and logical justification and with as few plotholes and handwaves as possible. >That's it, summed up in a sentence. If they're reworking old content, is to fit this new vision so the mod is more consistent.
>Isn't a dev >Defending the team
They do it for free.
>Their vision
They have no vision, it's just endless reworks for the sake of reworks
>Brazil
South America, does not matter >Mexico
More Latin America wank, does not matter >Manchuria
We already have Guadong >Turkey
The only interesting one on this list, but where the frick is Italy?
Why do chuds get mad when their arguments get debunked?
>I think your reworks are shit >"PROOF? SOURCE? DEBUNKED!"
10 months ago
Anonymous
Frick you chud, it isn't like your the one developing the mod. Let us devs develop new content for you.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Mexico pararellism
Who the frick wants this
FRICKING FINISH JAPAN AND ITALY ALREADY
10 months ago
Anonymous
Hurry up, nobody gives a shit about your teasers
10 months ago
Anonymous
I find the structure of the paths very samey. Every path is: >Candidate solves crisis, successor entrenched >Echevarria coups >Military coups, opposition couter-coups >Military coups, civil war
Except Madrazo's which has a socialist ending.
Then again, Guangdong is also like that and it's still fun so I guess it'll turn out nice in the end
10 months ago
Anonymous
>it isn't like your the one developing the mod
See, that's the problem. I could do a much better job if I was in charge.
10 months ago
Anonymous
There is nothing stopping you from making your own fork
10 months ago
Anonymous
True, but I'll rather do my own mod because making something new is much easier than fixing someone else's mess.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Then I say, good luck, have fun, ask lots of questions, I look forward seeing your idea grow and blossom.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Frick off I don't need your pity, I have over 300 steam awards for my workshop items
10 months ago
Anonymous
in that case i wish you a pleasent have a nice day and fail, moron
10 months ago
Anonymous
Your mod will die, nobody wants to work on a shitty redux.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I was not giving you pity, or sarcasm, I was genuinely wishing you the best.
I think I just cracked the code - the reworks aren't about realism. That is just a distraction. It is all about blueballing us with future TNO2 content. Just think about it, all that happened and the leaks we got all point to this >US rework changes 72 candidates from being narative capstones on the theme of your run into "Find out next time!" teasers >McGovern, who served as the definative good ending for US gets removed >Meanwhile 68 candidates languish >Glenn, who was like a mini-McGovern also gets axed, replaced with Hart-Chep who ends half way through Chep's term >72 rework acompanied by sneaky teasers about le heckin' Nixon coming back in the 80's >Nazi Germany starts getting a lot of facelift leaks that are all about future content >Collapse paths seemingly get pushed to the 80's with Borman no longer getting Autumn crisis every time >Goering no longer to lead to a fast collapse, nor Heydrich >Speer to get a bunch of boondogles like the Social Revolutionaries, all to set up future successors >Burgundy gets sanitized because its too annoying to work with for the second decade >Eastern Europe partisan paths at best are about setting up stronger partisan hold-outs for whatever happens in the 80's >Already mega-plans for GO4 Germany >Guangdong content sitting in the shade of the upcoming showdown between China and Japan
Its literally all being done to drag out TNO instead of finishing off good stories of the first decade. Like they want to make everyone into Russia where the 70's is just an extended teaser
>the reworks aren't about realism
they never were
But anyways the devs have been blueballing us since release. Russian 2WRW, Gao's GAW, Hall and Yockey, Go4 and Bormann getting cancer, Matkovsky getting cancer... It's all cliffhangers. And I don't think the old 72 president's trees were any different than the current ones.
nta but how so? it's definitely more grounded than le nazi united nations, for sure, I don't think it's underwhelming however
it has gone from a single ending to 4 depending on your relationship with the factions which I'm sure will be great for replayability, even more so if the Go4 and Oberlander (if he's still in) also have multiple endings
10 months ago
Anonymous
Oberlander is indeed staying.
This seems very underwhelming and worse than the original Speer content?
as far as I'm aware no one posted a mexico tree before. just this mechanic
This is why we can't have nice things.
rumors say september 18, for the Market Garden anniversary. About Manchuria leaker just said it's completely coded only for one year so take that as you will
>as far as I'm aware no one posted a mexico tree before. just this mechanic
damn I might just be schizo, thanks anyway anon
10 months ago
Anonymous
Maybe you're confusing it with the Lacerda Brazil tree in the previous thread or maybe you mean this chart for Mexico's economic mechanic posted back in June. I can't really think of anything else you might mean.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Does anyone actually care about this economic autism? When I saw this I bloat in Iron Curtain and Millenium Dawn I immediately turned the game off.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Personally I love mechanics like these.
10 months ago
Anonymous
GDPmaxxing is fun. Imagine how boring Guangdong would be without the economy mechanics. >inb4 it's still boring
So..how tf do I deal with increasing debt as a russian warlord (Regional stage?) No matter how much I cut my spending, my GDP keeps getting lower and I keep losing factories, 17% of GDP loss at this point, with a 3% GDP growth, but the inflation is almost reaching 3%..
dont worry about debt too much, you actually want to increase your spending as it'll increase your economic growth
you want a deficit that won't dramatically outpace your gdp growth
There's a cheat somewhere that allows you to remove all debt. That's just what I do in my games. It helps me get really high GDP that I can then show others in these threads.
NPP was too unique, and parallelism is the future of the mod, chud. Eventually they're going to simulate collapse of the Atlantic Wall and the fall of the Iron Curtain over Europe.
Panzerites. They're just making excuses to remove things so that they can have their own version.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Panzer left in mid 2021, if that were true, they would've started the rework of the rework sooner and not now, 2 years later.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Wait no, I was wrong. Panzer left in early 2020 which means the Italy rework probably wasn't even planned yet. Lmao.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Not at all. It takes time to solidify power and decide that "hmm, things just.. weren't working with the previous version, they just weren't.. realistic.." and start changing everything to fit their own idea of what the mod should be (i.e., just replace the previous work with their own). Like how revisionists everywhere operate.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>It takes time to solidify power
They had one year between Panzer leaving and the Italy rework being announced (which at that point was already partially playable, I'm talking April 2021). It's much more plausible that they realized that first, their idea of a revolving door of parties wasn't fun, and second, Italian politics wouldn't be the same as OTL in a world were Fascism ruled for 40 years and the Italian civil war didn't happen, than your conspiracy theory-tier assumption.
Was South Africa meant to be the Ukraine analogy?
Think about it, a nation getting provoked by separate entities (Luhansk and Donetsk, German African RKs) and the nation receiving copious amounts of aid from the west (OFN and NATO).
It's the other way around. Putin's invasion of Ukraine was meant to parallel the invasion of South Africa in the hit new (at the time) mod TNO.
Putin actually saw the Kaiserreich progress report for the Russia rework where they would go to war with Ukraine over the Donbass if they couldn't find a peaceful resolution to something called the Coal Crisis. Only thing he got wrong is that the coal started getting posted after the war started, not before.
There's not enough interactivity with the Russian countries. You're telling me the U.S. would only supply ONE Russian unifier? Japan wouldn't do shit? Germany wouldn't be supplying Nazi factions?
Germany doesn't care about Russia. Japan does support Chita and Amur, but there aren't any mechanics that represent that. And the US can only support one unifier because it's the only one they have access to.
Why would Germany not care about Russia? There's a major nation forming in the east as there's a weakened Germany. You'd think someone in the intelligence service would think, hmm let's support rival factions to keep Russia distracted so it doesn't unify. Especially by mid game when there are these huge Russian states existing.
Couldn't the U.S. supply West Russia, especially if England joins the OFN?
>Why would Germany not care about Russia?
They don't care about who unifies because they know whoever wins won't be friendly to them. This is even more true now that Oktan is being moved to be a Moskowien collab. We know for sure Speer and Bormann will prepare for a possible war with Russia, I think one of them even builds a huge defensive line in Moskowien. Also remember the warlord situation in Russia isn't very clear to international observers. >Couldn't the U.S. supply West Russia, especially if England joins the OFN?
Guns would have to pass through Norwegian and Finnish waters, both of which are Pakt nations.
I actually like the current Amur-Japan relationship. As Amur you have to suck samurai dick 24/7 for a handful of trucks and a few million dollars and concede massive chunks of your economy every time, whereas as Japan you pay attention to Amur about as much as you yourself pay attention to your gut bacteria (remember to eat yogurt, anon)
Germany has decisions to contact Oktan if Samara unifies West Russa, further aid is distributed through guns
Germany also fricks with Omsk, supporting the Batov insurgency in regional.
They also have the generic decisions to each region, causing instability and less gdp growth.
When Men was still included, they used to have a RND mission which allowed them to effect the variable that caused the AI to collapse
Also they can make contact with Vladimir, which doesn’t really expand into anything but implies they want the christian conservatives to win the regional elections since the guy they contact is an econ minister in their path.
Updated leak dump with every picture posted by the leaker until now + the elusive Iberian Wars doc (pretty interesting stuff, the wars will be much more dynamic).
If you notice I've missed something let me know and I'll add it.
https://gofile.io/d/xUe9Wc
Despite how unrealistic it might have been, why remove Scotland and Wales when there could've been some expanding done there? I kinda liked what they did there. Call me a fool, but if you wanted to do a parallel between north and south Korea in this TL, it should've been with a pakt england and OFN Scotland, just my opinion at least.
These are all anwsers provided by the TFL devs
1.Germany has access to magic to win WW2, there's little point of having a half-done Sealion.
2. Scottish (and welsh) nationalism and desires for independence was in the single digits and they couldn't even get an MP, just the occasional councillor.
3. Koran style split with the exile government right there up north wouldn't work. (pic rel)
4. When you look at it in depth, the whole idea falls apart.
>Despite how unrealistic it might have been, why remove Scotland and Wales when there could've been some expanding done there?
Fascist English devs unironically took over
if the devs cared about realism then I should be allowed too invade the German reichkommisariats after they become independent as Germany. they commit actual fricking treason and you can't punish them for it.
When full Ukraine content comes, if the Reichkomissar gets too uppity the fuhrer can send the wehrmach after his ass.
There are 3 reichskommisariats that you can't take back, infact you have too HELP them so they can continue commiting treason!
>3 reichskommisariats
which ones? Josias's Kaukasien always gets invaded and the oil barons didn't commit treason per se (and kaukasien is getting reworked anyways), you have the option to invade RK Ostland as Bormann and Speer and you always invade Moskowien no matter who wins. Speer also always invades the GeneralGouverment (not sure about Bormann, but he definitely replaces the leader).
>Removing the China revolt
Yunnan is still in and will still be in after TSS, stop lying. And even then the war itself is not a nation >Great Asian War
Again, not a nation
>Honorable Mentions: >Kishi removal >Glenn removal >Globalplans removal >Focus tree removal for Alexander Men >Focus tree removal for Italian Palestine >Focus tree removal for Italian Algeria >Focus tree removal for RK Madagascar >DSR removal from alpha build >B.E.E.F removal from alpha build >Indian content removal from alpha build >Finnish content removal from alpha build
You aware that you are just inviting a series of copes and retroactive justifications on why those countries were removed. Before anyone says about how Brittany was removed because of Francewank or realismgays it was removed because the dev who made it split, and the rest of the teams didn't know how it worked, and the best part, is that because of changes in nsb, the code was salvageable and able to be streamlined so it wouldn't lag. The devs don't remove content because of some secret cabal or some realism gayging, they are all just talentless. They have maybe a handful of people holding to mod together and everyone else are deadweight writers or "content designers" that are either not allowed to design content or are unable to. Do you want to know why the space race was removed? It was because the people making it were tired of waiting for their turn to make their scripts and gui. They would rather make their own game, than wait for petty bureaucracy.
>Brittany
Removed because its mechanic caused a lot of lag due to how it interacted with the TT mechanics. >Pleskau, Basegi Brigade, Berezniki
Fair, but they literally did nothing except being conquered by another nation and had no content. >Bogi Smerti
Removing something for being too edgy hardly counts as realism. Why do you love statelets with absolutely no content at all? >Alexander Men
Still in the game and being reworked. Besides the supply update made him unplayable. >PRC
Same as Men minus the supply thing. >Wales and Scotland
Fair but the removal was done by the TFL team. In fact, TNO's devs had some (shitty) plans for a British Isles rework that kept Scotland and Wales. >Goering
Not a nation, just a path and it's being reworked.
1/2
>Kishi
He'll have a path in TSS >Glenn
Hardly done because of realism >Globalplans
They did absolutely nothing >Palestine and Italian Algeria
Who unironically played as those? >DSR, BEEF, Indian content and Finnish content removal from alpha build
A build that never saw the light of day and thus something you can't have nostalgia for it.
It doesn't matter what cope or excuse you come up with, the fact is that they were removed so my point still stand. I'm not going to humor your pathetic attempts at demagoguery since they serve no purpose other than waste my time
9 months ago
Anonymous
your point was that they were removed because of realism, and I just told you there were other reasons
>Brittany
Removed because its mechanic caused a lot of lag due to how it interacted with the TT mechanics. >Pleskau, Basegi Brigade, Berezniki
Fair, but they literally did nothing except being conquered by another nation and had no content. >Bogi Smerti
Removing something for being too edgy hardly counts as realism. Why do you love statelets with absolutely no content at all? >Alexander Men
Still in the game and being reworked. Besides the supply update made him unplayable. >PRC
Same as Men minus the supply thing. >Wales and Scotland
Fair but the removal was done by the TFL team. In fact, TNO's devs had some (shitty) plans for a British Isles rework that kept Scotland and Wales. >Goering
Not a nation, just a path and it's being reworked.
1/2
>Kishi
He'll have a path in TSS >Glenn
Hardly done because of realism >Globalplans
They did absolutely nothing >Palestine and Italian Algeria
Who unironically played as those? >DSR, BEEF, Indian content and Finnish content removal from alpha build
A build that never saw the light of day and thus something you can't have nostalgia for it.
stop posting screenshots from this thread in doki you insufferable morons. nothing comes of it, and none of the opinions of these anonymous morons matter. they genuinely don't know what they're talking about, they unironically call people "panzerites" for god's sakes. xalas nothere arthurs
As I thought, your infiltration attempts are incredibly obvious and pathetic. You have to understand that you can't argue somebody into liking your product.
I'm often left wondering why I even leak.
I can't speak for the other guy who's on the team and posts here, but I hope you understand it's not to hype up content like it's coming out anytime soon. I think I am doing this to strike at the elitist developer team who refuses to share these changes with the plebs outside the dev server.
shut up moron, even if they are leaking shit to psyop us into liking it who cares
regardless of the motives we're getting free exclusive posts without the disappointment of having to join the team and deal with petty bickering and drama
I was banned from TNO Reddit so now I'm visiting the best discussion platform to know how dead mods' brains are? They always were moronic but now it's extent seems just insufferable to the point where I wonder how those idiots are still fricking alive.
You're correct, some comvet today got banned just because some troony contrib falsely accused him with no evidence.
9 months ago
Anonymous
troony cope, troony seethe. troony dilate, troony screams. Of all the stories of mice and men, they will never ever be a woman.
9 months ago
Anonymous
No proof again btw.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>TNO is filled with pedos
Yeah that fits.
9 months ago
Anonymous
lmao
Are they ever going to make a Great Trial update?
nah but they have a joke decision for it in the arcade mode decisions
9 months ago
Anonymous
Is this the reworked dem Italy or the old PW dem Italy stuff? Either way it looks…pretty boring ngl.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It's probably a very wip version. Muti's mechanic from the old leaked build also looked like shit.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It's probably a very wip version. Muti's mechanic from the old leaked build also looked like shit.
Reworked DemItaly but also still WIP and will probably receive touch-ups, the contrib who made it posted it today. >also Frenchwank and Englishwank anons are blind, the real cabal is chinks.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Woops, forgot to add pic-related
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Ashley
Holy frick, hoi4 playing grils developing autistic realistic ah mods? Has anyone wifed her yet?
9 months ago
Anonymous
9 months ago
Anonymous
9 months ago
LEAKER
bros do you think ashley passes convincingly? someone should tell her she has fans
She passes and she is all mine.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Ashley actually does have a nice ass, if itopped I would
NTA but i was banned by TNO reddit because "my posts looked like it was written by someone that was banned before" and when I contacted the mods to lift my ban they said "suck it, you made a yockey joke so you're promoting hate"
So, there's going to be no secret easter egg that involves a european country pushing back Germany (besides Italy)? A shame, I always liked setting Goering as the Fuhrer when playing as England so I can do Sealion 2 and restore British pride.
not everything is like one of your gay r/politicalcompassmemes discords and normal people do not like sharing spaces with third world rightoids larping as epic nazis
Everything is politics. Not having a representative from every major/important ideology is just doing a disservice to the fairness of how the ideologies are represented in the game, which purports to be realistic.
why does /gsg/ hate history and politics, the two things depicted in all of the paradox games lmao
it's almost like the people in that shithole of a thread are bitter, burnt-out people who hate the very same games they supposedly play
please go back to r/shermanposting or discord or whatever please i beg you
I'm sorry that paradox games and reddit political compass memes managed to fool you into thinking you know anything about history and politics
9 months ago
Anonymous
Alright, post your personal historiography then anon
9 months ago
Anonymous
He won't because history is for le nerds, and he must oppose le nerds because he's constructed a pseudo-school bully type online personality around himself.
9 months ago
Anonymous
look i didn't mean to offend your political compass larp i just think strategy video games aren't replacement for history books
9 months ago
Anonymous
One can play gsg and read books.
I'm assuming you're exceptionally well read, in the case they are mutually exclusive? Since you hate strategy games so much you'll do literally anything to avoid discussing them.
9 months ago
Anonymous
nta but no one is arguing that strategy games are bad, it's getting all your historical knowledge from video games whose creators barely researched any actual history and youtubers who don't know anything besides how to skim wikipedia and acting like an expert. I would respect you more if you didn't act like the 14-year olds who just discovered edgy politics from reddit know anything worth sharing. read some history (not pop history) books or serious academic papers and you'll get more respect (and historical knowledge.)
9 months ago
Anonymous
Loving how you're ignoring the post directly above you. >nta
gay redditorism that you yourself have been angered by in the past
9 months ago
Anonymous
>ignoring the post directly above you
the post above hadn't been posted when I wrote my post >gay redditorism
how is clarifying that I'm not the same person who he was talking about "gay redditorism". I don't use reddit.
The tone of this dev homosexual proves that despite all the talk of moving away from Panzerism, the TNO team still hates its own audience, just like Panzer did.
funny as frick that the sun shining on the world has ridiculously more Germany and Europe content than TNO even though it's made by a bunch of Japs (and they have a lot less Asian content lmao)
also why do tno types always go on about how you can't complain about the lack of content because Guangdong is superduper developed like anyone comes to the Axis WW2 victory mod for minor Chinese countries, it's fun enough but who gives a shit
yeah it's not some epic tno killer but for something that's made by far less people and by people who clearly have relatively little english ability it's very impressive
>Guangdong is superduper developed
It feels like team had a big argument and everyone was pissed off but they still had an update on schedule so they took almost the most neutral country that nobody gives a shit about.
FRICK YOU
you just made me remember that I went on a rant about how we are all the cells of memetic creatures that rule mankind and how everyone started treating me as a schizo afterwards leading too me dropping out of school.
no, I deleted my discord after fricking up in a EU4 multiplayer game in such an embarrasing way that I simply had no choice but never play with those people again
as someone on the team i've always thought it's insane that for how scuffed TNO lore, gameplay, and development is - no one else has been able to make an axis victory mod that's even 55% as good. which is why i'm still on
>A motto of Adhemar's from his first term as governor of Sao Paulo. Just as São Paulo cannot stop growing, Brazil can not stop. Adhemar will ensure Brazil will rise to meet its destiny as one of the worlds greatest nations in the New Order.
>To celebrate Brazilian Independence Day, here is another teaser for Adhemar de Barros, showing part of his economic tree. This branch focuses on continuing the developmentalist revolution in Brazil and furthering the cause of industrialisation with new megaprojects,
>There are two other branches of his economic tree as well, expect to see these in the future.
step 1: pick America or japan
Step 2: go into the trade screen
step 3: in one of the tabs there should be a large nuclear symbol with two red rectangles next too it
Step 4: click the rectangles so they become green
Step 5: click the nuclear symbol
Step 6: oh god oh frick what have I done it wasn't supposed to go like this
Step 7: germany is obliterated
>panzerite den
What's with this LARPing, you are a video game mod not a political party
Now release Italy already and cut both Dem and Red Italy if you have to.
As who though? Italy? Can't recall any nation being able to colonize
>you
not a dev moron
by panzerite I mean anons who idealize the panzer era and hate every single change the devs make
Make new content that allows the player to do something fun like beating Germany back as one of the puppets. We had Wales beating England as a good easter egg, do something like that with the newer content, it'll be nice.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Both Italy and Germany and at least partially reclaim their colonies if they are fine with managing the costs and logistics, which was a good change
As who though? Italy? Can't recall any nation being able to colonize
[...]
Make new content that allows the player to do something fun like beating Germany back as one of the puppets. We had Wales beating England as a good easter egg, do something like that with the newer content, it'll be nice.
Why are you asking me of all people? I already said I'm not a dev. I have no idea how you got that idea.
I'm making a list, add some that I missed. Let's get this show on the road.
>it doesn't need Finnish content >it doesn't need Indian content >it doesn't need B.E.E.F >it doesn't need DSR >it doesn't need RK Madagascar focus tree >it doesn't need Italian Algeria Focus tree >it doesn't need Atlantropa >it doesn't need Italian Palestine Focus tree >it doesn't need Globalplans >it doesn't need Order 44 >it doesn't need Glenn >it doesn't need Space content >it doesn't need Wales >it doesn't need Scotland >it doesn't need Goering >it doesn't need PRC >it doesn't need Alexander Men >it doesn't need Basegi Brigade >it doesn't need Bogi Smerti >it doesn't need Pleskau >it doesn't need Brittany >it doesn't need Berezniki
I would discount Scotland and Wales for now, if the new content for Britan ends up being shit then they can get readded along with HMMLR since there won't be any content for them for a long time, but if the content is good we can just let them go
Does this mod have actual wars with division layouts and stuff like the base game? Whenever I see any screenshots its always a zoomed out map where what should be Russia has like 20 different states alone with names like the Siberian Hitlerite Confederation or some other autistic shit
Russian warlords, England, Scotland, South africa, the african reichskommisariats, yunnan, and China all have actual proper wars. If China starts losing then Japan can also join the war.
Germany and England have civil wars.
These are the playable countries that have wars but the superpowers can send volunteers too most civil wars.
I never got why Speer was the reformist who reigns in the big companies when he was the one that relied on slave labor the most. Shouldn't he be the one that expands them?
if I remember correctly the book he wrote was all about Hitler was at fault for all the evil shit the Nazis did and that Speer and the rest of them were just following orders.
That's because Panzer initially bought into the whole "good nazi" myth, he later rectified it but the idea of Speer as a reformer stuck
Apart from that, hypocrisy is a big theme in Speer's narrative: the man who introduced slave labor into the reich now dismantling it because it empowers him politically. Speer found a niche in the reformist current of the NSDAP and exploited it for his own gain.
if I remember correctly the book he wrote was all about Hitler was at fault for all the evil shit the Nazis did and that Speer and the rest of them were just following orders.
That's because Panzer initially bought into the whole "good nazi" myth, he later rectified it but the idea of Speer as a reformer stuck
Apart from that, hypocrisy is a big theme in Speer's narrative: the man who introduced slave labor into the reich now dismantling it because it empowers him politically. Speer found a niche in the reformist current of the NSDAP and exploited it for his own gain.
>pic
Man, old speer trees really were something else lol
Panzerite Speer accidentally being written as the hardest golden path in the entire mod which requires steins gate tier looping (save scumming) until the perfect timeline is checked and then he kneels before Hitler's grave was utter ludokino tbh
Just unified Russia (Except Moscow region, its ruled by some Germoids) as Siberia's Black Army, got the mod outro thing. is there anything else worth doing?? (since i cant declare war on Moscow to capture it) or should i just start a new run?
the game is broken. if you need to go into the console to fix yourself an error that the developers made, and otherwise the game isn't playable, then the game isn't playable. what you're describing isn't the TNO team having fixed haiti, it's you having found a workaround to fix haiti yourself. it's still broken and therefore the USA is still unplayable without console commands.
I literally could play it so it's not "unplayable", broken for sure, but not to the point where playing USA is impossible. Sure, it needs console commands to work around it, but until a definitive fix comes what else can we do?
my dude, if the game does not function normally and requires the player to input console commands to fix a game-breaking unresolved issue on the part of the developers, then the game is broken. what you're describing is a way to fix the game, a way the developers have inexplicably not implemented, and that the player instead needs to do themselves to make the USA playable.
And? That doesn't matter, you said the game was unplayable and I'm saying it's not. I never said it wasn't broken, it is, but if you can fix it yourself then it's not as much of an issue as, well, if you couldn't.
>inexplicably
they made a long ass reddit post explaining the issue and why it's so tricky to fix
FIX YOUR FRICKING MOD YOU moronic Black folk
Of all the OPs you could've made you decided to make the cringiest one, kys
I'm playing as Siberia's Black Army, will i ever get any units templates? Or I have to design my own? I really suck at making templates
Post more screenshot leaks, something China related or PW related would be nice
Choose a side first before you proceed
I'm always on the winning side, sorry Panzerites but it's already over for you lot
im a reformist, seeing unrealistic shit ("b-but Axis victory is unrealistic") just makes my autism act up
Kek. Just started playing TNO a week or less ago
>DSR funny remnants
whats that?
DSR funny was (I think still is) a shithole of a subreddit where fans posted the most unfun, schizo (not in a fun sense) cringeworthy memes.
the site also went down and got split into different subreddtis iirc. Don't know what ever happened to the sites and its spliter siblings.
i think it's back as NPP funny
Yeah it's back for a while now ever since r/nppfunny decide to rename themselves as DSRFunny
Without Chairman Panzer, there would be no TNO.
Are the reformists to blame for skeleton content? That's all these troons work on anymore. One country's worth of content a year and ten countries' worth of skeleton content. Remove Brittany, Burgundy, maybe Norway and Ostland soon and replace it all with skeleton content.
I agree with that unironically. Its a mod about the Cold War so i dont mind getting rid of all countries except Germany, US and Japan in exchange of player influenced skeleton content and expanded gameplay for said countries.
Skeleton content existed since release
Reactionary and Panzerites should infiltrate TNO teams, promoting reach others, pretending to be reformists then boom coup the dev teams.
>why
Because I want lulz and I’m surprised nobody try a counter-reformist coup yet.
Fixed it.
Ah frick, missed a spot, now its actually fixed.
now fix your grammar
kino
Another plank from the Ship of Theseus
From a canoe into a galleon
You will never be a good modder
I'm not one anyways
Yea, you are a discordtroony larping as one
I never larped as one though?
You weren't supposed to leak this.
Should have leaked the corresponding doc and the actual full flowchart.
Now it's guaranteed to be locked up.
The UI in this mod is so horrendously ugly I could never get into it. I read about it elsewhere and I hear the dev side of things is a shitshow and they're arbitrarily removing things like Esoteric Nazism for being too edgy.
>UI is ugly
you eventually get used to it, like I did
>I hear the dev side of things is a shitshow
We can't know for sure the exact state of the dev scene. Recent leaks have shown development is progressing quite well so there's that at least.
>arbitrarily removing things like Esoteric Nazism for being too edgy
They aren't removing Esoteric Nazism per se, it's just getting wrapped under National Socialism instead of being its own category
>The UI in this mod is so horrendously ugly
i like it tbh
>The UI in this mod is so horrendously ugly I could never get into it.
I personally can't stand the vanilla UI anymore
I was like you but got used to it and started to actually like it.
bump. plz help! I don't want to fight the far-east fascists or the western bolsheviks with just infantry..
you don't so git gud
its ogre..
i'm only mad that they're removing esonaz because the purple on the piechart looked really nice
does anyone else agree or am i just autistic
chinks agree with you, I dont care
Majority agrees with you, see a fricking Reddit or farms for example. This server has turned into a big troon circlejerk that doesn't represent popular opinion.
>server
*thread
eh, I'd say response is varied on the reddit
im afraid to inform you that “third world moron who’s obsessed with trannies” is hardly a majority opinion either
why is your goal in life to defend an artificial subculture that's as damaging to nerd communities as crack is to black communities
what the frick does this even mean
>artificial subculture
great more schizo homosexualry about george soros funded lgbt propaganda turning everyone gay
>LE SOROS XDDDDD
why are you stuck regurgitating right-wing talking points from 2016
if you think the rise of troonyism is natural i've got a bridge to sell you
>why are you stuck regurgitating right-wing talking points from 2016
because you are? lmao moron
trannies were practically a non-issue back in 2016 though
this freak shit only really exploded in the last two or three years
also speaking of soros he's giving his empire to his dipshit millenial hipster son lmfao
look at this guy
>sup brah
>wanna smoke brah
no you people were here saying the exact same shit, you're just 8 years old so you don't remember it
lmfao
You'll be surprised how many of these people have no conception of the recent past. The same people making jokes about blacks stopped halfway through the Obama administration and will now aggressively go after you if you find them funny. They might have actually forgotten there used to be a world without troons
yeah we used to have a website without esls until all you third world homosexuals showed up after 2016, now frick off
proof of oldhomosexualry?
no, just trust me bro doesn't count
>being here before 2016 is "oldhomosexualry" to you
dumb esl election tourist
but you can't even prove you were there then
all you are is some dude LARPing about the good old days you never even experienced
Ganker has always been an ocean of piss
if you believe anything else you're either wearing rose tinted glasses or you're a LARPer
There's a guy running around different threads spamming >esl everywhere. This board is so low traffic that he has to spam it in every thread in order to have fun
ESL is just the liberal substitution for Black person that is still socially acceptable to say. Eventually they will overuse it and have to find some other word.
I've been here longer than you, homosexual
I don't get people saying Burgundy is a core part of the mod. It literally does nothing during the entire mod and sometimes when I play I even forget it exists until the collapse reminds me.
its the same shit everytime
>thing is added cause Panzer or some shit like that
>doesnt make any sense, super buggy and is not even that fun
>team decides that removing it to add actually good content is better then fixing it
>"wah, you're removing the soul of the mod"
this but unironically
they're making changes for the sake of making them, to distance themselves from panzer's shadow
no, they're removing Burgundy because it messes with player's games and the idea that Burgundy is a shithole while at the same time, Le Puppetmaster is inconsistent.
and also because its background lore isn't exactly the best, especially now that the SS coup has been retconned
>the idea that Burgundy is a shithole while at the same time, Le Puppetmaster is inconsistent
Like China IRL?
China is in no way the same level of shithole Burgundy is.
be careful, you’re about to trigger the redditor sperging about le social credit
that reminds me, there was a reddit thread a while ago about removing the Great Asian War, I think that's a great idea and more in keeping with the mod being about the Cold War and proxy conflicts. It's moronic to think that a country with it's economy so closely tied to Japan with a political class monitored by Japan, would risk going to war with a nuclear power.
I think GAW is okay. Japan is a country of 100 million or so lording it over about 1-2 billion Asians of varying types, and eventually some of them are going to get rich and powerful enough to ask "why are we letting the Japanese do this to us?". I don't think China, even with all the warlords behind it, could rebuild itself to take on the Japs in the 70s though. Maybe post-1980. And even then they'd probably try to get independence peacefully before going full TJD
The GAW should only be the absolute worse conclusion to a pan-asian conference to negotiate the status of China within the CPS. Especially now that there's gonna be true collab leaders in TSS that genuinely believe in true pan-asian solidarity.
knowing how batshit the Japanese were before they got buck broken by the Americans then I wouldn't be suprised if they started using nukes in China as if they were possessed by MacArthur.
Manchukuo will be the best content in the mod, frick eurocentric chuds.
>No more Hsinking
BASED (how the frick do you pronounce that shit anyways???)
FRICK Postal
FRICK Wade-Giles
EMBRACE Pinyin
h-sin-king
>Turkey doesn't have content
>Italy content is old and shit
>French state and related countries don't have content
>Alexander Mann KINO events were gutted
>A lot of the reichcomissariats don't have focus trees at all
>Almost nothing you can interact with the central and south america countries
>Lots of russian warlords lack fluff or even skeleton content
>Chaina has almost nothing besides a few thingies here and there
>Japan got gutted
TF is wrong with this mod man? A huge chunk of Europa lacks focus tree and content, yet those morons are thinking about removing stuff that works and leaving unfinished shit behind, like holu hell
Also tf happened with Madagascar, why did they had to ruin it?
Why didn"t Panzer muster a bunch of schizos and made his own version of TNO?
What do you think the devs are doing? Literally everything you listed is being worked on, except maybe Alexander Men.
>Also tf happened with Madagascar, why did they had to ruin it?
How did they ruin it? If anything the new proxy is more engaging
>Being worked
My man, Italy and Turkey got almost no content for a whole time, and they are supposed to be this big fading coalition which still holds some power in the cold war.
Turkey has the whole armenian and israeli shtick, yet, null, nothing, they just exist. They may say that shit being worked on, but they would need to at least release something before removing everything. How tf TNO is that barren after all those years?
>How did they ruin it? If anything the new proxy is more engaging
It's too much detail for a proxy conflict that does not matter enough to have it
> Why didn"t Panzer muster a bunch of schizos and made his own version of TNO?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2326030123
He even has a guy named The Black Sun, along with abysmal team management qualities and always failing on deadlines. The problem is that Panzer IS the bunch of schizos and would rather make 300 page lore docs than make a mod with working game design or any actual code.
Turkey is actually close to release. Also
>removing everything
I can count with one hand the number of nations with trees they have gutted. That's hardly "everything"
> map rework
it's real
Call me blind, but what's changed?
Antarctica ceirtainly looks a bit better and not as flat in the new map.
Canada seems to have annexed the northern half of Alaska
I'm sure it's just a bug due to the map being a wip
>TFL is being delayed for fricking Turkey
Frick these cretins.
I want to play as a Russian country but join the OFN. Which can do this? What Russia warlord has the most interactivity with OFN?
Vyatka and Dem Komi can join but only as partners. There's also Magadan which enjoys direct US support.
Alternatively play with the 2wrw submod as Novosibirsk and elect the Liberals in the 2nd election. They fully join the OFN alongside their entire sphere.
Has their been any word if the false dawn team has decided to cut out the Iberian wars content or no? Because there's no way their releasing this year if they have to include it
France should reach Great Power status and get the option to develop nuclear arms if it's able to reclaim the motherland and seize Burgundian lands. Seriously, why is Italy an option in the Great Power/Superpower map but not France?
homie they've been economically exploited by germany for 2 decades, and Burgundian lands are so shitty they actually give france a huge debuff after they retake it
Meanwhile Italy won WW2, has a huge empire, controls mediterranean and oil trade and is overall in a much stronger position than fricking France.
No they aren't? Reading comprehension dude, they clearly are saying the order of patches is Britain+Ukraine > Map+ODF > One of said candidates.
The U.S. should get the option to meddle more in Europe and influence a nation over to the OFN sphere, like it does with all the proxy wars in Asia. Imagine Ukraine breaking free of its dependence on the Reich and installing a democratic regime, and the U.S. being given options to flood Ukraine with small arms and heavy equipment, to the point of driving off the Nazis for good.
The devs have other plans for US forpol. Basically America will be more focused on containing the other powers and will be much more cautious of expanding its influence to other continents. Also things like Italy, France and Malaya in the OFN won't be possible in the future
>Also things like Italy, France and Malaya in the OFN won't be possible in the future
WHAT THE FRICK
Italy because they will have their own sphere and won't play second fiddle to another power, France because they will be more closely tied to the Reich and Malaya because according to the devs them joining doesn't make sense
>Malaya because according to the devs them joining doesn't make sense
i agree, Japan would invade them immeadiately considering how important Singapore and that strait in general are
>France and Malaya in the OFN won't be possible in the future
so even if de gaulle reclaims the birthright he just tells the yanks to frick off?
oh god are they axing free france
I have to assume that other anon is trolling. No way the devs would ruin the game by stripping OFN of potential HUGE major states. Part of the fun of playing as the U.S. is seeing how big the OFN can get, and if you can't even get REAL nations like Italy/France in it ... why fricking bother?
It's not trolling
>she/her
>maddy pfp
people should be legally banned from retconning their own works to insert weird sexuality/gender shit
GAW is being removed, expect the 3SJW instead. No more content-wide revolt against Japan’s colonial holdings, just head on head economic war between Japan and China.
It’s a troon.
Kino if true.
>It's a troon
Yes it's pretty safe to assume any "she/her" who plays Hearts of Iron isn't actually a woman
Detente between the US and Japan makes zero sense, their relationship should be more contentious than that of the Reich and the US (or the Reich and Japan), I don't understand why it's even an option.
A detente makes sense since Japan is willing to surrender symbolic gains for more economic ones, you can already see that in the treaty port negotiations. It's in their best interest since it means America lessens its support for anti-Japanese groups within the empire.
Even when Panzer was the lead dev Germany lost its African possessions and Germany's entire story was about trying to maintain it's European sphere. Excluding the Oil Crisis, cause that's meant to be a proxy war free for all.
>bound to europe
they're axing all the overseas german possessions aren't they
>Basically America will be more focused on containing the other powers and will be much more cautious of expanding its influence to other continents.
Can they develop the rest of the mod or are they going to keep reworking America to match every recent political trend?
>Oh Biden became President? Time to rework America so Democratic Imperialism is good?
>People are talking about walkable cities? Stop all dev to make a new president to circlejerk about it
>Oh domestic politics are turning against Biden's foreign policy, time to rework America again!
>Time to rework America so Democratic Imperialism is good?
When did they do this?
>Stop all dev
Hart was singlehandedly coded by Mango in 3 months. And either way, USA dev doesn't stop other teams's development due to how it's all organized.
>Oh domestic politics are turning against Biden's foreign policy, time to rework America again!
Meds. They're revising the US foreign policy because it's just a copypaste of their OTL forpol, which doesn't fit in TNO because this Cold War is vastly different. And even then it won't imply a complete rework of the proxies.
Pic related for Japan and the proxies
>because it's just a copypaste of their OTL forpol
Not at all, TNO's foreign policy is way more aggressive than the US' real life foreign policy, you can occupy over half of Africa for fricks sake. If you think TNO's foreign policy, which is much closer to the modern US' foreign policy, is the same as the US' Real Life Cold War foreign policy, then I'm afraid to say you have been psyoped.
I meant the use of the doctrine of Rollback, which is the strategy the US used against communist countries. Of course the US is more aggressive in TNO, partly because of Germany being more hated than the SU and partly to make gameplay more engaging.
Détente between US-Japan while Japan is funding Pan-Africanists shows these younger devs are completely out of touch with how aggressively anti-Japanese Americans actually were against Japan until the 1990s/early 2000s.And that was as a loyal puppet, much less a rogue superpower that nuked US soil.
>take a game with the africa not-vietnam and all the other cool shit
>strip it down
>germany is only in europe, and U.S. can't touch europe
>U.S. can't actually impact anything outside 3 wait 2 asian countries, and the carribean for some fricking who-knows reason
They're destroying the fricking mod.
WHO CARES ABOUT THE CARRIBEAN WHY ARE THE PROXY WARS THERE NOW
A bigger question is why are they broken?
If you are on the TNO dev sever (Like I am) it's really funny to see the constant, neverending b***hing over how the redditors wopon't stop complaining over the removal of purple or Guangdong or whatever. They are incapable of telling their own shitty fanbase to frick off in no uncertain terms, so they are relegated to whining on the dev server.
My advice to them is just to stop apologizing, and maybe even accelerate the reworks just to get these types to go away.
or they could just release an update.
Why don't you tell them that yourself? You're just seething about it on here in the same way.
I've hardly ever seen a dev complain about the reddit fanbase though and I've been on the discord quite a while
>My advice to them is just to stop apologizing, and maybe even accelerate the reworks just to get these types to go away.
>or they could just release an update.
You see that would require actual effort. They'll rather larp as revolutionary culture warriors and shill themselves on /vst/ nonstop
What's the whining about Guangdong?
The purple is whatever, I see a strong argument for why it should stay in that all the purple-themed memes like pic related become obsolete. But it's really a nonissue. To me, I'd rather the devs pretend "we're too busy to address those complaints because we're making you new content" even if they're all just sitting on their hands or whatever it is they do all the time.
Shut the frick up you attention whoring coward. I'm sick and tired of hearing from your anonymous bullshit on the dev discord and having to put up with your edgelord schtick. If you're going to write vitriolic abrasive leftist word vomit in the complaint box about everyone on the team, do us all a favour and do it in person next time you fricking homosexual.
So TNO will NEVER have a scenario where one or two of the main superpowers are pretty much dismantled?
The NPA will still be in and some fuhrers (I'm thinking Himmler or Heydrich) could also collapse Germany during the oil crisis.
>(I'm thinking Himmler or Heydrich) could also collapse Germany during the oil crisis.
But this isn't caused by player. Currently, Japan's Empire can slowly be chipped away by the U.S. and eventually Yunnan (if Yunnan wins), and it would have been cool if the remaining Japanese-aligned countries had events that could make them flip if certain conditions were right. Same with Germany collapsing if the U.S. player was good enough, slowly fighting Germany and chipping away at it until it collapsed. But Germany collapsing "by default" during a pre-planned oil crisis event is just lame.
it seems like the devs are removing everything "war" from "cold war" and leaving the superpowers in tact and not really able to truly impact each other and cripple each other through 10+ years of cold war hijinks. And that sucks.
>But this isn't caused by player.
It could be if the trigger is them losing all or many of the proxy wars in the Middle East, like Fascist Italy's bad end in PW.
Then you have an entire superpower's fate being decided by one series of proxy wars, and that's kinda lame.
I guess but how would you do it instead? Most of the members of the Pakt are colonies deep in Europe where the US can't reliably reach. The only countries the OFN can plausibly get are Britain, Ireland, Iberia, Turkey (only as partner) and maybe the Scandinavian countries. Italy has its own sphere of influence and is not very friendly with the US after decades of demonizing propaganda, France is firmly chained to the Reich because it literally borders it and the Balkans are too far and more likely to join Italy or Turkey. Considering this, it's very hard to come up with ways to dismantle Germany's sphere. I believe that's why they changed the US's forpol to be more defensive instead of aggressive. Instead of trying to make the nazi regime, stop them from getting in our backyard, isolate them, and wait until the regime eventually dies.
make the nazi regime collapse*
That's just creating limitations. The devs could easily have Spain, France, or Italy (or all three) join OFN if various conditions are set. There's nothing inherently bad about Italy joining OFN, despite "decades of demonizing propaganda" (decades of propaganda doesn't really do as much as one might think), same with France. But if neither Italy nor France can join OFN, then Spain could be a weak link that cracks and has a chance to switch sides. Then once the U.S. has a foothold in Europe, it makes destabilizing Germany all that much easier.
Iberia will still join the OFN, with Burgundy removed Germany has a direct border with France, Dem Italy will align closer with Japan due to years of good relations after WW2.
>"decades of demonizing propaganda"
It's not just that, Italy considers itself a great power with its own sphere of influence and ambitions and see little value on kowtowing to the Americans. And they're chummier with the CPS anyways.
>France
Again, they're too closely tied to Germany and any indications of France ditching them for the OFN would be met with invasion.
Also, Devs said that USA getting HMMLR England in the OFN would enbolden them and make them more confident in European operations or something like that.
Japan will probably get into a coup cycle and slowly have its spheres drift away.
Germarny collapsing should be based on several factors, including OFN making a significant headway in Europe. But they're deleting all that and making it so that the only European country that joins OFN is England. That's so fricking stupid.
Hell, even if for some reason the devs REFUSED to consider having a major European country (other than UK) join OFN, you could still use the peripheral Reichspakt countries to make a narrative that has an offensive-based U.S. gunning for Germany.
>England, Ireland
>Norway
>Spain
>Turkey
>Europe surrounded by OFN
>U.S. can choose further blockade options on Germany that makes the likelihood of collapse stronger.
It's just not very fun to play as fricking America and be forced to stay on the defensive when America's position isn't that weak. It has Australia, South Africa, decent relations with India, etc. It's the economically strongest country in the world by far. It's not like it's really up against its back against Japan and Germany, especially since Japan doesn't do ANYTHING(?) aggressive to the U.S.
hey why does the slovak-hungarian border look like there was no forst vienna award?
Fixed next update
good to see that they also fix the incorrect border in the east from the war between slovakia and hungary in 1939.
In the original TNO lore Romania went to war with Hungary and Horthy did something to piss Hitler off so he'd look the other way, and they retook all their land. I don't think the Slovak borders changed though
If I remember correctly Hitler at some point said Romania and Hungary would inevitably come to blows again and Romania with someone like Antonescu in charge would be sure to win. So it makes sense he'd relatively be fine with it.
But Hitler would have the ability to freeze the conflict and say that both of them need to save their troops to defend against the Pakt's enemies. The USA and USSR did this all the time irl
The next update will destroy panzershills. It’s time you gays see the writing on the wall.
No one gives a frick about your shitty team drama. Leak a git or something or frick off. We may be autists but in the 1,000 hours in hoi4 autism not internet drama autism.
How about you join the team and leak the git instead of demanding it from random people?
No thanks I prefer having my balls.
Trans members are actually the ones putting effort into releasing our new patches, you should respect the females more.
Frick off Dread
Applications are closed
TWNBW
Applications are closed? LMAO like these mfs are hardworking enough to release shit what a fricking joke.
TNO is dying as currently know it and it all because your reformist buttholes took over the mod.
Its dying cause of constant cleansings of community and dev team.
update september 18 for 79th anniversary of market garden
I don't get it
TNO is dying and yet development is faster than it has ever been. Curious.
>one country focus per update
>rest are skeleton contents
It's that or waiting years until the entire update bundle is finished. Now, which one you prefer?
Yeah, like Hart, Guandong and 4 years for Britain and Ukraine were developed for 2 years straight. Litteraly everything else was developed before TT.
Wasn't Hart made in like 6 months?
Probably. I meant within a two year period.
Yeah, but the quality of those paths is in a whole other level than the pre-TT ones
At this rate, we'll have Victor and the Judge by 2050.
Keep the faith, we endured the TT1 wait, we can endure this
I dont think we need all that GUIs and events tbh. Quality we had was good enough.
>I dont think we need all that GUIs and events tbh.
Incredibly cringe take, half of TNO's fun is the GUIs and the narrative events. More, in this case, it's better.
>Quality we had was good enough.
This has to be a joke. I literally can't go back to play other US presidents after playing Hart because of how dull they are.
The hype and praise surrounding Hart seems incredibly astroturfed.
Have you played his path at least? It mogs every other president imo
says more about the other US presidents then it does him, but it is true even if it is broken
Frick off, i'm not going to play any leftist path no matter how much effort you put into it
>leftist
homie what? He's a liberal democrat, not a fricking socialist
>liberal democrat
So a leftist
you're the same ideologically stunted moron who thinks conservative = nazi
>he lets ideology get in the way of fun
you're like the snowflakes that refuse to play as the nazis because they're too scary and evil, ngmi dude
TNO is a political wish fulfillment, i'm not going to have fun reading 100th event about building walkable BBC's or owning dixie chuds.
Your loss buddy. Kissinger's event chain is my absolute favorite in the US.
I never play democracy in base HOI and I always go far left or far right, but as Brazil I had a ton of fun just getting the center left and center right to cooperate with one another and stabilize the economy while building the highway. I just wish there was a little content so I could have something to do while waiting for construction to finish.
>half of TNO's fun is the GUIs and the narrative events
For the US you have: CIA interface, proxy wars interface, elections interface, party split interface, legislation inerface and different mechanics for each president before 1972. Enough for me.
>I literally can't go back to play other US presidents after playing Hart because of how dull they are
Well, i can. If i want to be racist, ill play Wallace, for a full libtard experience ill pick Kennedy or Harrington and so on. Harts GUI is fricking stupid. Im trying to raise numbers that means nothing outside his personal GUI: no GDP growth or quality of life improvments in general.
>GDP growth or quality of life improvments
Plain wrong, his city gui directly affects his "ambitions of a political machine" nat spirit which does exactly that
It is. Like i said, no gdp growth or quality of life improvments you could see on societal development panel.
Listen, i see youre big fan, so tell me how to deal with the bloated buget playing Hart? It kills my city every time and i dont know how to deal with it.
>no gdp growth or quality of life improvments
Here you can see the effects. It reduces inflation, which boosts your growth, increases policy effectiveness and reduces poverty, among other things, based on the status of the city and your overall progress in transportation, civil rights and urban dev.
> bloated buget
This happens when you're budget is too high, so do focuses and put buildings that increase budget costs. Budget is best when it's yellow as going too high or low is detrimental.
And here's how it looks with almost everything perfect
>Budget is best when it's yellow
Scratch that I just found out there's a green "flourishing" value before bloated.
Look, no povery change and misc.costs, cause this shit is bugged. Without all those GUIs the focus effects would be directly connected to the economy dedicated code.
I was asking how to reduce budget, not to increase it. How to deal with it if its bloated already?
To clarify, this isn't a from a full playthrough, I used debug and focus.autocomplete to get hart and boost the city values.
No poverty change because I couldn't get poverty and homelessness to green by focus.autocompleting, that's why I said "almost" perfect. Misc. Costs are increased by passing certain bills iirc, which I didn't bother to do.
>how to reduce budget
Bloated means you have much more budget than what you need so you need to increase the city costs to balance it. There are 4 values: Red ("In the mud", your budget is too low), Orange (not as bad but could be better), Yellow (neutral) Green ("Flourishing", you want this), Red ("Bloated, bad because of what I said).
>To clarify, this isn't a from a full playthrough, I used debug and focus.autocomplete to get hart and boost the city values
I did the same. Youre telling me it would be different in a normal playthrough?
>so you need to increase the city costs to balance it
I completed all the focuses via console choosing the most costly variants, but my effectivness is still decreasing due to bloated budget. You believe it would be different in a normal playthrough too?
>Youre telling me it would be different in a normal playthrough?
In a full playthrough you pass bills + you have the weekly/monthly ticks the buildings give.
>I completed all the focuses via console choosing the most costly variants, but my effectivness is still decreasing due to bloated budget.
Efficiency will always decrease but that alone is not a problem as you can easily offset that with focuses and buildings. I'd say it all depends on timing and what focuses you prioritize since the start of the playthrough.
I remember being told that TT being pushed out would massively accelerate development.
This is just speculation but I guess they realized if people endured the TT wait, they could take the time to rework old plans or come up with better mechanics like what happened with Dem Italy or Manchuria
troony's New Orifice
Never got around to doing Hart because Us early game is so boring for the n-th time. What's the best strat for electing him with a good majority but a non-fricked country? I like the idea of non-segragationist Wallace into Hart, but I think that will give too much power to the NPP-C and the Dixiecrats, no? Also what should I do with proxy wars leading up to electing Hart?
If you can't elect Hart with a stacked congress and winning all proxy wars you shouldn't be playing tno
Easiest is electing Wallace and getting him impeached. You can easily get dem majority that way, even if you win every proxy as the NPP.
But the absolute strongest US you can make is RFK > Hart. With a bit of luck, save-scumming, cheesing and planning you can profit from the big bonuses and GDP growth of RFK's bills while still getting a good RD senate. Here's my strategy:
>During Nixon time stall CRA as long as you can and campaign as the NPP
>Stall SAW until RFK wins elections, then win it as MacCormack before inauguration to get instant dem support.
>After inauguration inmediately do a leadership play to put the less popular NPP N and NPP P caucus leaders in charge.
>You can win every proxy np
>If you campaigned well you should have enough to pass glorious bill
>Rush the left tree until you get COINTELPRO decisions. Don't silence the Attorney General
>Immediately switch to right tree and rush the bills. If you can pass them, good, more buffs, if not, it's okay because they give dem support.
>IMPORTANT: Always click RFK's poverty and education decisions and whatever that decreases NPP unity and makes him more liberal.
>At this point you just continue the tree hoping you get killed soon, preferrably before 2nd senate elections (always campaign as the RDs as RFK)
>If you don't get killed before elections, run's over lol.
>If you did, good. Now do nothing as Thurmond to get Rev. Civil rights later (and avoid nasty debuffs)
>68 elections are always tense. It's a close call and you should always save at the start of the election season for if you do somehow lose. Picking MCS as NPP candidate should give Hart an edge but you should save and reload to see if Harrington is more optimal.
>If all's good Hart should've won.
>Senate is a bit meh, I usually get around 30 Rs, 25 Ds, 25 Ps and 15 Ns more or less. But still enough to pass every bill.
>Just Focus Autocomplete the civil rights reaction tree. If you don't your economy will get irreversably fricked.
speaking of hart, isn't
>RFK -> Thurmond but doing nothing -> Hart
the only way to get revolutionary civil rights without going with gus hall?
yup
How conservative can I be as RFK?
Not very, you're playing a progressive after all.
You can sell out quite a bit and basically become a proto-Clinton.
>and basically become a proto-Clinton.
Based, so basically running RFK and being as conservative as possible is the best possible choice for America
Vote pig will be the best update in the history of TNO.
Harrington passes Rev CRA
>Vote pig
wut's that
So you know those leaked Nixon, Wallace, and Rockefeller designs?
It’s part of the vote pig rework.
Ah, wasn't aware it had a name. Based on what I've seen it has a lot of potential but the NPP removal will definitely be very controversial.
frick off back to Mango's gooncave union
Vote pig is a crap US rework the US lead's doing. Removes the NPP, RDs, LBJ presidency, among other things. still has Nixon acting like a schizo for no reason (OTLism) and leaking Kennedy's poor health so he doesn't run against him. there's probably more but i forget half of it, it's all moronic either way
You don’t know the half it it, shill. All 3 major nations getting reworked will save the mod from irrelevance.
just one more rework and it'll fix the mod
>still has Nixon acting like a schizo for no reason (OTLism)
This pisses me off because Nixon could have unironically been a great president if he had won in 1960 (which he should have and tbh his later paranoia is understandable knowing how hard he got fricked in 1960). This should be what happens in TNO - Nixon being a great pragmatic president that can choose different approaches to solve the countries problems with the ability to be quite wholesome on the whole civil rights part and also a Nazi-killing interventionist to boot (kind of like MCS but RD). At best we have a weaker version of that with Bennet.
Jesus Christ can we get a few more countries with actual content instead of just reworking the USA all the time
what do you think the next patch does
Removes more content, lags the game even harder, and adds in one minigame for the US.
It adds Ukraine and TFL Britain content, moron.
No one cares about fricking Bongland, which is just US 2 anyway
Double so for Ukraine
Fricking release Fascist Italy already
Adds a demo for both. it's not even full content.
>Can't get a secret path that involves defending the British Isles or the fields of Ukraine, not even an event
>It's either be defeated or slurp the German boot under collabs
Still prefer going full Ahab over slurping my enemies boot and then claiming that I never liked it after decades pass and my enemy is well off without me
HMMLR content will come eventually when they're done with the collabs, don't worry
Learning about Childhood's end after seeing that super event makes me want HMMLR to always win. No way should they be railroaded into defeat and occupation after America backs off, giving them something if they push back Germany would put a smile on my face knowing that Britain can stand on it's own without anyone but itself, regaining some pride it once had.
Bro the army is literally a bunch of unionist militia, they can't compete against the full force of the wehrmacht. They don't even have a navy that can protect the channel
It's not railroaded to Collabtard victory
>1. Reworks an existing country
>2. One half of a content update promised almost a year ago (Lech i Rus) which is itself one half of a content update promised several years ago (Europas Narben)
Tell your fellow trannies to open up applications so I can make all this content while you're busy dilating or whatever
You're missing the point. He said devs are ignoring developing new nations in favor of reworking the US (which is stupid considering how TNO is organized) when the very next patch in fact adds content for a new nation (Ukraine). The exact amount of content is irrelevant to the argument. And I didn't even mention the fact that Adhemar's Brazil, Mexico, Manchuria and Turkey are also fairly close to completion.
>Brazil
South America, does not matter
>Mexico
More Latin America wank, does not matter
>Manchuria
We already have Guadong
>Turkey
The only interesting one on this list, but where the frick is Italy?
>I-I-It doesn't count!!!!!!!
Frick off if you don't have a better argument.
>We already have Guadong
The fact that you think Manchuria is like Guangdong shows that you don't know shit.
Adhemar is literally in its very final stages
>argument
This is not a debate, I don't care if you post a logical proof, TNO is shit now
>I don't care if you're right
lol
Logic is a completely overrated way of proving who is right. With the right proof you can justify literally anything with logic.
My logic is substantiated with evidence though
*your subjective opinion
Everything I've said is based on what has been leaked.
If Adhemar is close to final stages then release that shit before the stupid fricking map rework.
Look I don't know exactly how close it is. I only know is extremely close because of the leaks that have been posted here. If the devs plan to releade the map rework before Adhemar then it's because they feel the latter won't be ready yet
>Isn't a dev
>Defending the team
They do it for free.
I like the mod and the new direction it's taking, cry about it
According to Roundtable Notes from May Adhemar was 90% done. That's why I said close
Well with timelines like those I understand why they never commit to dates anymore lmao
Panzer may be a fricked up individual but at least he's managed to put out like 3 mods
I think it's because it will also come with new mechanics like SA Cold War and new proxies and skeleton content, that's why even though Adhemar is probably completed by now, the update as a whole isn't.
Why is there even a South American cold war?
Shouldn't SA be a battleground in the wider Americo-Japanese-German cold war instead of having its own segregated special snowflake cold war?
It can also be that at the same time. For example, Brazil is aligned with the OFN, but it's also a big regional power, while Argentina is the same but Italy-aligned (or Pro-Pakt if Peron). Then Brazil winning in the SACW would mean the OFN has also won by proxy. But those allegiances aren't static. We know from Adhemar's design loc that his Brazil can switch to favor the Pakt due to some spy frickery Germany pulls. And it's also been confirmed that there will be a CPS Brazil. Of course I could be completely wrong, but I think this makes sense.
>literally in its very final stages
>I don't know exactly how close it is
>oops Paradox just released the Finland DLC so we'll have to spend another 6 months updating TNO and then another 6 months updating the Adhemar content
NSB compatibility patch (2022-01-21) was released in 4 months after NSB (2021-11-23) and the BBA comp patch (2023-02-21) was released 5 months after BBA (2022-09-27) but that's because they decided to release Guangdong first instead of waiting even more. Six months would be an exaggeration based on past events.
Oh shit sorry 5 months not 6 haha that makes a world of difference.
Point being, after the Ukraine/UK update, unless we get a September Surprise, there will be no more content until February if we're lucky. So in 2023, we will have received 1.5 countries' worth of content, 1 rework, about 20 different skeletons, and a bunch of miscellaneous bloat. And people somehow defend this.
Close to completion = if you're lucky we'll finish one of these by 2024
The removal of the NPP is going to mindbreak the TNO r*ddit so much that I want it to happen.
Every time something big is removed, without fail the bootlickers backtread and go towards something else.
>well they're not removing the bogi smerti!
>well it was too unrealistic anyway why do you care
>they'll never take out atlantropa!
>well it hinders development of med content so it was a good thing
>glenn is an integral part of the mod
>actually his path was stupid and they're making better space content anyway (never ever lol)
>removing burgsys is a meme, it's literally one of the mod's defining features
>actually it was always meant to be a subid and it was stupid
>they'll never get rid of burgundy, it was quite literally one of the things that made the mod big
>uhm it was never good anyway why do you care that it's gone
>the NPP is the only real thing seperating TNOtl from OTL and you're mindbroken for thinking they'll cut it
>actually the premise was stupid and it should never exist
what can they fall back on kek?
that or they write long whiny posts thinking their opinion matters
Stop complaining. Your posts don’t do anything to effect development, sorry your genocide RP nation is being taken out.
I'm not complaining lol, I'm laughing at the complainers
They need to be surgically removed from the fan base.
is a nation founded on genocide and slavery not something that fits into a nazi victory? you fricking devs constantly whitewash the nazis.
>you fricking devs constantly whitewash the nazis.
That is because the reworking Devs are French and British Neofasicts who unironically think working with Germany would give them rewards. It's why they hated Panzer's Germany supporting Celtic Nations and both Britain and France utterly ripped apart
This doesn't make any sense. A main part of TFL collab britain content is how much being a nazi puppet sucks.
Sorry kind xir but the nazis never performed any genocide except the Holocaust and slave labor was only used during the war.
The only good thing about this update will be if they put in Dark Nixon's perfect playthrough where he becomes President for life after winning every proxy war
They better not frick up and remove Dark Nixon before their update even gets out
I would say I’m a dev loyalist, I will follow any decisions the developers make.
Same, they know their shit and the newer content they've made delivers in quality so they have my trust.
Why is it that these kinds of posts reek of "how do you do, my fellow kids" energy?
TNO devs are coming on to shill shit.
One change I don't like is the new OFN icons. I find them too flashy. Thoughts?
what's the hand gripping lightning bolts supposed to represent???
Going by the leaked US trees again I noticed this. Looks like there'll be a reverse Bay of Pigs, with the US aiding Castro against a fascist-aligned Batista.
isn't puerto plata the reverse bay of pigs?
they ally with commie cuba to frick over trujiio
My guess is it's an attempt to make the Caribbean proxies more dynamic. Like if Castro wins with US aid, then Puerto Plata will be easier for the US and vice versa.
Why is it that this mod continuously removes things and people consider it a good thing?
I liked Yun's path because I envisioned him as Ahab and the entirety of Asia against him as white whales
I liked Glenn because it was fun to go to Mars and reclaim our spot as top dog in a broken world
I liked Heydrich because of the narrative it had on Nazism and what it really meant
I liked Atlantropa because it already set the stage for what I was getting into
Glenn was alright. Heydrich was excellent but could've been expanded into what this post said which'll make things more interesting to see how the German populace reacts to the gates of hell consuming Germany (https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/mmwtmb/a_suggestion_for_heydrichs_ending/). Yun is okay, the rework's are alright but I prefer going full Ahab and having all of Asia come at me at once. Atlantropa being expanded on should've been top priority, having all Mediterranean nations put their quarrelling aside and deal with the hell Germany brought to them, with endings that involve all of them reaping the rewards of irrigating the deserts formed, or horrible ending with the dam being blown by some terrorist and passage through the Mediterranean sea being blocked by this crisis, impacting everyone's economy.
>Why is it that this mod continuously removes things and people consider it a good thing?
Rule by nerds, they secretly take pleasure in making their audience miserable. It's why you need to bully nerds so they don't try it
>Long Yun
Character assassination
>Glenn
Character assassination and going to mars would've been impossible with '72 technology
>Heydrich
A superpower being automatically knocked out of the cold war isn't fun at all if you play as anyone else. And the new plans look to be more interesting than "*Gasp* Nazism is... le bad???? *kills himself*" anyways
>Atlantropa
Physically impossible but we already had this debate last year
Wasn't the original Yun's character twisted to fit the setting of the world though? Despite the rework changing that up a bit to give him a happy ending, I feel that the original character worked well with the kind of world TNO was. Still, giving Yun the ending with Sun Fo is good enough, knowing that his original ideals and hopes for the nation he had since way back when would come true after chasing away the second sun from his land.
Eitheir you guys are baiting or you're genuine plebs who don't know shit about TNO, it's devs and their vision for the mod. You're literally spewing the same dumb arguments the redditards make, sprinkled with copious amount of troony obsession.
>Their vision
They have no vision, it's just endless reworks for the sake of reworks
Their vision is interesting and fun content with a lot of depth, both mechanical and narrative, with a plausible and logical justification and with as few plotholes and handwaves as possible.
That's it, summed up in a sentence. If they're reworking old content, is to fit this new vision so the mod is more consistent.
>Their vision is interesting and fun content with a lot of depth, both mechanical and narrative, with a plausible and logical justification and with as few plotholes and handwaves as possible.
>That's it, summed up in a sentence. If they're reworking old content, is to fit this new vision so the mod is more consistent.
Why do chuds get mad when their arguments get debunked?
>I think your reworks are shit
>"PROOF? SOURCE? DEBUNKED!"
Frick you chud, it isn't like your the one developing the mod. Let us devs develop new content for you.
>Mexico pararellism
Who the frick wants this
FRICKING FINISH JAPAN AND ITALY ALREADY
Hurry up, nobody gives a shit about your teasers
I find the structure of the paths very samey. Every path is:
>Candidate solves crisis, successor entrenched
>Echevarria coups
>Military coups, opposition couter-coups
>Military coups, civil war
Except Madrazo's which has a socialist ending.
Then again, Guangdong is also like that and it's still fun so I guess it'll turn out nice in the end
>it isn't like your the one developing the mod
See, that's the problem. I could do a much better job if I was in charge.
There is nothing stopping you from making your own fork
True, but I'll rather do my own mod because making something new is much easier than fixing someone else's mess.
Then I say, good luck, have fun, ask lots of questions, I look forward seeing your idea grow and blossom.
Frick off I don't need your pity, I have over 300 steam awards for my workshop items
in that case i wish you a pleasent have a nice day and fail, moron
Your mod will die, nobody wants to work on a shitty redux.
I was not giving you pity, or sarcasm, I was genuinely wishing you the best.
How's Greece and Turkey coming along?
Greece is slow, not much has been leaked about it. Turkey is close enough to be considered a release candidate after the map update.
Why tf are they reworking the map? Did anyone want this bloated shit?
Dunno, maybe the current map is too small to add more states, maybe so Anctartca can fit confortably, maybe both.
Right, what's the best station on the radio submod?
I think I just cracked the code - the reworks aren't about realism. That is just a distraction. It is all about blueballing us with future TNO2 content. Just think about it, all that happened and the leaks we got all point to this
>US rework changes 72 candidates from being narative capstones on the theme of your run into "Find out next time!" teasers
>McGovern, who served as the definative good ending for US gets removed
>Meanwhile 68 candidates languish
>Glenn, who was like a mini-McGovern also gets axed, replaced with Hart-Chep who ends half way through Chep's term
>72 rework acompanied by sneaky teasers about le heckin' Nixon coming back in the 80's
>Nazi Germany starts getting a lot of facelift leaks that are all about future content
>Collapse paths seemingly get pushed to the 80's with Borman no longer getting Autumn crisis every time
>Goering no longer to lead to a fast collapse, nor Heydrich
>Speer to get a bunch of boondogles like the Social Revolutionaries, all to set up future successors
>Burgundy gets sanitized because its too annoying to work with for the second decade
>Eastern Europe partisan paths at best are about setting up stronger partisan hold-outs for whatever happens in the 80's
>Already mega-plans for GO4 Germany
>Guangdong content sitting in the shade of the upcoming showdown between China and Japan
Its literally all being done to drag out TNO instead of finishing off good stories of the first decade. Like they want to make everyone into Russia where the 70's is just an extended teaser
>the reworks aren't about realism
they never were
But anyways the devs have been blueballing us since release. Russian 2WRW, Gao's GAW, Hall and Yockey, Go4 and Bormann getting cancer, Matkovsky getting cancer... It's all cliffhangers. And I don't think the old 72 president's trees were any different than the current ones.
German reworks are having Bormann and Speer go up to 1975 btw.
jan 1 75 or dec 31 75? based if true either way seen as their content ends for like 71 for me
Leaning more towards jan 1 1975, from what I can tell.
This seems very underwhelming and worse than the original Speer content?
nta but how so? it's definitely more grounded than le nazi united nations, for sure, I don't think it's underwhelming however
it has gone from a single ending to 4 depending on your relationship with the factions which I'm sure will be great for replayability, even more so if the Go4 and Oberlander (if he's still in) also have multiple endings
Oberlander is indeed staying.
Shitty bait.
do you have the go4 one to complete the set?
Of course.
Got something fo Bormann?
Bormann trees were already leaked
Couldve just post it again. Cant find it in archive.
https://gofile.io/d/RZXi7D
It's in this dump.
I really should update it with all the new shit that has been posted
Counterpoint: Guangdong has a complete narrative arc
Manchuria is one-year code complete btw.
And here's the high resolution TFL flowchart.
I really should stop shitting up these threads but here's a mexico tree that happens in 1962 after the Olympic setup.
if you consider this shitting up then by all means please keep doing it, your leaks are by far the best posts in these threads
Post it all, every non leaked focus trees, really make those trannies seethe
damn these look pretty good
keep leaking shit so we know the devs are actually doing something
does anyone have the other mexico tree that got posted in a previous thread. I'm moronic and forgot to save it
as far as I'm aware no one posted a mexico tree before. just this mechanic
rumors say september 18, for the Market Garden anniversary. About Manchuria leaker just said it's completely coded only for one year so take that as you will
sorry second reply was meant for
>as far as I'm aware no one posted a mexico tree before. just this mechanic
damn I might just be schizo, thanks anyway anon
Maybe you're confusing it with the Lacerda Brazil tree in the previous thread or maybe you mean this chart for Mexico's economic mechanic posted back in June. I can't really think of anything else you might mean.
Does anyone actually care about this economic autism? When I saw this I bloat in Iron Curtain and Millenium Dawn I immediately turned the game off.
Personally I love mechanics like these.
GDPmaxxing is fun. Imagine how boring Guangdong would be without the economy mechanics.
>inb4 it's still boring
>Dennis Skinner
Holy based, that man was GOATed
So..how tf do I deal with increasing debt as a russian warlord (Regional stage?) No matter how much I cut my spending, my GDP keeps getting lower and I keep losing factories, 17% of GDP loss at this point, with a 3% GDP growth, but the inflation is almost reaching 3%..
dont worry about debt too much, you actually want to increase your spending as it'll increase your economic growth
you want a deficit that won't dramatically outpace your gdp growth
keep clicking the foreign investment decision. also as the war goes on you should be growing your GDP faster than the debt through conquest.
There's a cheat somewhere that allows you to remove all debt. That's just what I do in my games. It helps me get really high GDP that I can then show others in these threads.
>removing the NPP
Why?
Do these realismgays realise that the NPP exists to prevent American politics from completely devolving into OTL parallelism?
NPP was too unique, and parallelism is the future of the mod, chud. Eventually they're going to simulate collapse of the Atlantic Wall and the fall of the Iron Curtain over Europe.
and yet they're reworking the dem italy rework because it was too similar to otl italy
That's because everything needs to be reworked to remove the taint of the previous administration.
What previous administration? Matto&co have been in charge of the rework since the start.
Panzerites. They're just making excuses to remove things so that they can have their own version.
Panzer left in mid 2021, if that were true, they would've started the rework of the rework sooner and not now, 2 years later.
Wait no, I was wrong. Panzer left in early 2020 which means the Italy rework probably wasn't even planned yet. Lmao.
Not at all. It takes time to solidify power and decide that "hmm, things just.. weren't working with the previous version, they just weren't.. realistic.." and start changing everything to fit their own idea of what the mod should be (i.e., just replace the previous work with their own). Like how revisionists everywhere operate.
>It takes time to solidify power
They had one year between Panzer leaving and the Italy rework being announced (which at that point was already partially playable, I'm talking April 2021). It's much more plausible that they realized that first, their idea of a revolving door of parties wasn't fun, and second, Italian politics wouldn't be the same as OTL in a world were Fascism ruled for 40 years and the Italian civil war didn't happen, than your conspiracy theory-tier assumption.
This is why we can't have nice things.
Absolute hate the UI for TNO. Is there a mod for this mod?
cope and seethe troony
frick the npp and frick nppgays i hope they integrate tuf
The union forever keeps the npp lol.
And anyways, they won't integrate it. Mango is doing his own thing.
how long until they release the britisher content? 2 weeks + 2 weeks? how long until the Manchuria stuff is finished?
VGH...... EVROPA.... SAVED.....
>independent kingdoms in south africa
>not the entire congo in the pakt
ngmi
Hutting reached stage three TND so the congo is smaller but all the Africans are btfo
you can also get iberia and finland
Finland is out of Pakt? NGMI.
Hmmm... this Germany is still too small... yes.... it must be bigger! VGHHHHHHHHH
weak!
2WRR still works?
It literally just got an update
>literally
stop misusing that word
it updated in august, it's now september
2 weeks is a short time when talking mod updates
>Submods
No Armenia… sad!
You can't get Armenia in the Pakt
Does anyone have any kind of doc/info about the Goering rework? We still don't know anything about him
it wasn't leaked
on the lag
Is there a mod bigger than TNO for any Paradox game?
isn't millenium dawn much bigger than TNO?
Was South Africa meant to be the Ukraine analogy?
Think about it, a nation getting provoked by separate entities (Luhansk and Donetsk, German African RKs) and the nation receiving copious amounts of aid from the west (OFN and NATO).
It's the other way around. Putin's invasion of Ukraine was meant to parallel the invasion of South Africa in the hit new (at the time) mod TNO.
That's a pretty hip and trendy way to make politics.
No? The Ukraine War happened 2 years after the SAW was implemented in TNO.
Putin actually saw the Kaiserreich progress report for the Russia rework where they would go to war with Ukraine over the Donbass if they couldn't find a peaceful resolution to something called the Coal Crisis. Only thing he got wrong is that the coal started getting posted after the war started, not before.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Kaiserreich/comments/o80kvr/progress_report_123_russia_part_2/?rdt=46225
No. That was supposed to be the Murmansk People's Republic rising up against Finland
How do you get Turkestan in the pakt?
There's not enough interactivity with the Russian countries. You're telling me the U.S. would only supply ONE Russian unifier? Japan wouldn't do shit? Germany wouldn't be supplying Nazi factions?
Germany doesn't care about Russia. Japan does support Chita and Amur, but there aren't any mechanics that represent that. And the US can only support one unifier because it's the only one they have access to.
Why would Germany not care about Russia? There's a major nation forming in the east as there's a weakened Germany. You'd think someone in the intelligence service would think, hmm let's support rival factions to keep Russia distracted so it doesn't unify. Especially by mid game when there are these huge Russian states existing.
Couldn't the U.S. supply West Russia, especially if England joins the OFN?
>Why would Germany not care about Russia?
They don't care about who unifies because they know whoever wins won't be friendly to them. This is even more true now that Oktan is being moved to be a Moskowien collab. We know for sure Speer and Bormann will prepare for a possible war with Russia, I think one of them even builds a huge defensive line in Moskowien. Also remember the warlord situation in Russia isn't very clear to international observers.
>Couldn't the U.S. supply West Russia, especially if England joins the OFN?
Guns would have to pass through Norwegian and Finnish waters, both of which are Pakt nations.
I actually like the current Amur-Japan relationship. As Amur you have to suck samurai dick 24/7 for a handful of trucks and a few million dollars and concede massive chunks of your economy every time, whereas as Japan you pay attention to Amur about as much as you yourself pay attention to your gut bacteria (remember to eat yogurt, anon)
Germany has decisions to contact Oktan if Samara unifies West Russa, further aid is distributed through guns
Germany also fricks with Omsk, supporting the Batov insurgency in regional.
They also have the generic decisions to each region, causing instability and less gdp growth.
When Men was still included, they used to have a RND mission which allowed them to effect the variable that caused the AI to collapse
Also they can make contact with Vladimir, which doesn’t really expand into anything but implies they want the christian conservatives to win the regional elections since the guy they contact is an econ minister in their path.
Updated leak dump with every picture posted by the leaker until now + the elusive Iberian Wars doc (pretty interesting stuff, the wars will be much more dynamic).
If you notice I've missed something let me know and I'll add it.
https://gofile.io/d/xUe9Wc
Despite how unrealistic it might have been, why remove Scotland and Wales when there could've been some expanding done there? I kinda liked what they did there. Call me a fool, but if you wanted to do a parallel between north and south Korea in this TL, it should've been with a pakt england and OFN Scotland, just my opinion at least.
These are all anwsers provided by the TFL devs
1.Germany has access to magic to win WW2, there's little point of having a half-done Sealion.
2. Scottish (and welsh) nationalism and desires for independence was in the single digits and they couldn't even get an MP, just the occasional councillor.
3. Koran style split with the exile government right there up north wouldn't work. (pic rel)
4. When you look at it in depth, the whole idea falls apart.
>Despite how unrealistic it might have been, why remove Scotland and Wales when there could've been some expanding done there?
Fascist English devs unironically took over
if the devs cared about realism then I should be allowed too invade the German reichkommisariats after they become independent as Germany. they commit actual fricking treason and you can't punish them for it.
you do at least in the east
the west ones are more loyal to you so they can join the pakt peacefully
There are 3 reichskommisariats that you can't take back, infact you have too HELP them so they can continue commiting treason!
When full Ukraine content comes, if the Reichkomissar gets too uppity the fuhrer can send the wehrmach after his ass.
>3 reichskommisariats
which ones? Josias's Kaukasien always gets invaded and the oil barons didn't commit treason per se (and kaukasien is getting reworked anyways), you have the option to invade RK Ostland as Bormann and Speer and you always invade Moskowien no matter who wins. Speer also always invades the GeneralGouverment (not sure about Bormann, but he definitely replaces the leader).
The African Reichskommisariats
Fair, forgot about them. You're right, Germany should do more about it than just funding the cabal.
You can if you play Hermann Goering
>if the devs cared about realism
they don't
>TNO dev screams about fun as he removes another nation for being too unrealistic
when has this happened?
Removing the China revolt, and now any Great Asian War
>Removing the China revolt
Yunnan is still in and will still be in after TSS, stop lying. And even then the war itself is not a nation
>Great Asian War
Again, not a nation
>not a nation
Frick sophists
you explicitely said nation, moron
>you
Different anon, kys
my bad then
None of those are getting cut
>Brittany
>Pleskau
>Bogi Smerti
>Basegi Brigade
>Berezniki
>Alexander Men
>PRC
>Wales
>Scotland
>Goering
>Honorable Mentions:
>Kishi removal
>Glenn removal
>Globalplans removal
>Focus tree removal for Alexander Men
>Focus tree removal for Italian Palestine
>Focus tree removal for Italian Algeria
>Focus tree removal for RK Madagascar
>DSR removal from alpha build
>B.E.E.F removal from alpha build
>Indian content removal from alpha build
>Finnish content removal from alpha build
You aware that you are just inviting a series of copes and retroactive justifications on why those countries were removed. Before anyone says about how Brittany was removed because of Francewank or realismgays it was removed because the dev who made it split, and the rest of the teams didn't know how it worked, and the best part, is that because of changes in nsb, the code was salvageable and able to be streamlined so it wouldn't lag. The devs don't remove content because of some secret cabal or some realism gayging, they are all just talentless. They have maybe a handful of people holding to mod together and everyone else are deadweight writers or "content designers" that are either not allowed to design content or are unable to. Do you want to know why the space race was removed? It was because the people making it were tired of waiting for their turn to make their scripts and gui. They would rather make their own game, than wait for petty bureaucracy.
It doesn't matter what cope or excuse you come up with, the fact is that they were removed so my point still stand. I'm not going to humor your pathetic attempts at demagoguery since they serve no purpose other than waste my time
your point was that they were removed because of realism, and I just told you there were other reasons
>They would rather make their own game, than wait for petty bureaucracy.
And in true TNO fashion the release date of this game seems to be "never"
>Brittany
Removed because its mechanic caused a lot of lag due to how it interacted with the TT mechanics.
>Pleskau, Basegi Brigade, Berezniki
Fair, but they literally did nothing except being conquered by another nation and had no content.
>Bogi Smerti
Removing something for being too edgy hardly counts as realism. Why do you love statelets with absolutely no content at all?
>Alexander Men
Still in the game and being reworked. Besides the supply update made him unplayable.
>PRC
Same as Men minus the supply thing.
>Wales and Scotland
Fair but the removal was done by the TFL team. In fact, TNO's devs had some (shitty) plans for a British Isles rework that kept Scotland and Wales.
>Goering
Not a nation, just a path and it's being reworked.
1/2
>Removed because its mechanic caused a lot of lag
America removal when?
America isn't the cause of the lag
see
>Kishi
He'll have a path in TSS
>Glenn
Hardly done because of realism
>Globalplans
They did absolutely nothing
>Palestine and Italian Algeria
Who unironically played as those?
>DSR, BEEF, Indian content and Finnish content removal from alpha build
A build that never saw the light of day and thus something you can't have nostalgia for it.
stop posting screenshots from this thread in doki you insufferable morons. nothing comes of it, and none of the opinions of these anonymous morons matter. they genuinely don't know what they're talking about, they unironically call people "panzerites" for god's sakes. xalas nothere arthurs
>doki
Is that some troony discord server?
It’s off topic chat for devs in the dev discord
As I thought, your infiltration attempts are incredibly obvious and pathetic. You have to understand that you can't argue somebody into liking your product.
I'm often left wondering why I even leak.
I can't speak for the other guy who's on the team and posts here, but I hope you understand it's not to hype up content like it's coming out anytime soon. I think I am doing this to strike at the elitist developer team who refuses to share these changes with the plebs outside the dev server.
>corn was forced to tooze the ohloblyn bio in comvet along with stus and dzubia because of this post
MINDBROKEN
>stus and dzubia
post it
Nah, he had been planning to do it a day before actually. I just posted the WIP screenshot lmao.
I appreciate you, anon
shut up moron, even if they are leaking shit to psyop us into liking it who cares
regardless of the motives we're getting free exclusive posts without the disappointment of having to join the team and deal with petty bickering and drama
>doki
could this be a hint that the japan rewooork will release soon + 2 weeks?
Compilation of screenshots from the Ukraine stream if you're interested
https://imgur.com/a/yFF5xSw#prxIhI0
I was banned from TNO Reddit so now I'm visiting the best discussion platform to know how dead mods' brains are? They always were moronic but now it's extent seems just insufferable to the point where I wonder how those idiots are still fricking alive.
You were banned for being a fascist anon, don't lie.
>being a fascist
>reddit
Why do any fascist want to use Reddit tho? This place looks much better and suitable for such shit.
My guess is that nazi morons are attracted to the subreddit for an axis victory mod, expecting the community to be sympathetic to their beliefs.
But TNO mods banhammering everything that moves, aren't they? Isn't it more logical to move somewhere where rules do not exist?
You're correct, some comvet today got banned just because some troony contrib falsely accused him with no evidence.
troony cope, troony seethe. troony dilate, troony screams. Of all the stories of mice and men, they will never ever be a woman.
No proof again btw.
>TNO is filled with pedos
Yeah that fits.
lmao
nah but they have a joke decision for it in the arcade mode decisions
Is this the reworked dem Italy or the old PW dem Italy stuff? Either way it looks…pretty boring ngl.
It's probably a very wip version. Muti's mechanic from the old leaked build also looked like shit.
Reworked DemItaly but also still WIP and will probably receive touch-ups, the contrib who made it posted it today.
>also Frenchwank and Englishwank anons are blind, the real cabal is chinks.
Woops, forgot to add pic-related
>Ashley
Holy frick, hoi4 playing grils developing autistic realistic ah mods? Has anyone wifed her yet?
She passes and she is all mine.
Ashley actually does have a nice ass, if itopped I would
post it
Anon..... I'm sorry.
I read that in pic related's voice.
can you show some of pavolini's mechanics?
NTA but i was banned by TNO reddit because "my posts looked like it was written by someone that was banned before" and when I contacted the mods to lift my ban they said "suck it, you made a yockey joke so you're promoting hate"
what mod banned you?
I don't remember and I deleted reddit shortly afterwards. i made an account just to post on TNO and KR
Are they ever going to make a Great Trial update?
So, there's going to be no secret easter egg that involves a european country pushing back Germany (besides Italy)? A shame, I always liked setting Goering as the Fuhrer when playing as England so I can do Sealion 2 and restore British pride.
>no actual nazis on the devteam
How the frick do you keep shit balanced then from the communists and pro-democracy devs?
not everything is like one of your gay r/politicalcompassmemes discords and normal people do not like sharing spaces with third world rightoids larping as epic nazis
Everything is politics. Not having a representative from every major/important ideology is just doing a disservice to the fairness of how the ideologies are represented in the game, which purports to be realistic.
pop politics and pop history ruined a whole generation of men
why does /gsg/ hate history and politics, the two things depicted in all of the paradox games lmao
it's almost like the people in that shithole of a thread are bitter, burnt-out people who hate the very same games they supposedly play
they are self-conscious about how autistic they sound and therefore see their own interests as something shameful that must be kept hidden.
I'm sorry that paradox games and reddit political compass memes managed to fool you into thinking you know anything about history and politics
Alright, post your personal historiography then anon
He won't because history is for le nerds, and he must oppose le nerds because he's constructed a pseudo-school bully type online personality around himself.
look i didn't mean to offend your political compass larp i just think strategy video games aren't replacement for history books
One can play gsg and read books.
I'm assuming you're exceptionally well read, in the case they are mutually exclusive? Since you hate strategy games so much you'll do literally anything to avoid discussing them.
nta but no one is arguing that strategy games are bad, it's getting all your historical knowledge from video games whose creators barely researched any actual history and youtubers who don't know anything besides how to skim wikipedia and acting like an expert. I would respect you more if you didn't act like the 14-year olds who just discovered edgy politics from reddit know anything worth sharing. read some history (not pop history) books or serious academic papers and you'll get more respect (and historical knowledge.)
Loving how you're ignoring the post directly above you.
>nta
gay redditorism that you yourself have been angered by in the past
>ignoring the post directly above you
the post above hadn't been posted when I wrote my post
>gay redditorism
how is clarifying that I'm not the same person who he was talking about "gay redditorism". I don't use reddit.
Because morons here think that they're smart enough to replace current politics but in fact they're so dumb that they can't find a gf.
please go back to r/shermanposting or discord or whatever please i beg you
>normal people do not like sharing spaces with third world rightoids
What about first world rightites?
No one cares about these incels.
Easy one - morality/politics aside 99.9% of neonazis don't understand the ideology they claim to believe in at all lmao
Isnt that a projecting from a communist/socialist?
Nope, most communists/basedcialists are also clueless
Who arent then?
Still waiting for the Nixon's second term.
myanmar.
bros do you think ashley passes convincingly? someone should tell her she has fans
No.
The tone of this dev homosexual proves that despite all the talk of moving away from Panzerism, the TNO team still hates its own audience, just like Panzer did.
>waaah the dude leaking isn’t sucking my dick
don’t care, we got to see le super sekrit shit
>Playing the Goering expanded mod
>Can't get past 1969 because it keeps crashing
Frick this shit bros
funny as frick that the sun shining on the world has ridiculously more Germany and Europe content than TNO even though it's made by a bunch of Japs (and they have a lot less Asian content lmao)
also why do tno types always go on about how you can't complain about the lack of content because Guangdong is superduper developed like anyone comes to the Axis WW2 victory mod for minor Chinese countries, it's fun enough but who gives a shit
I've played it and the quality of that content can't compare to tno
most focuses don't even have loc ffs
yeah it's not some epic tno killer but for something that's made by far less people and by people who clearly have relatively little english ability it's very impressive
>Guangdong is superduper developed
It feels like team had a big argument and everyone was pissed off but they still had an update on schedule so they took almost the most neutral country that nobody gives a shit about.
Plenty of people were looking forward to Guangdong as far back as 2021, I wouldn't say no one gave a shit about it
FRICK YOU
you just made me remember that I went on a rant about how we are all the cells of memetic creatures that rule mankind and how everyone started treating me as a schizo afterwards leading too me dropping out of school.
average panzerite
are you the guy on the discord who kept talking about turning Slavs into batteries?
it has the same bizarre misspellings and 13 year old vernacular so yeah definitely
This guy? Lmao don't tell me he's come here after being banned from the discord
no, I deleted my discord after fricking up in a EU4 multiplayer game in such an embarrasing way that I simply had no choice but never play with those people again
POSSIBLE TEASER FOR BRAZIL SOON, Adhemar most likely
as someone on the team i've always thought it's insane that for how scuffed TNO lore, gameplay, and development is - no one else has been able to make an axis victory mod that's even 55% as good. which is why i'm still on
I understand lore (though they seem to be fixing the worst parts of it little by little) but what's wrong with gameplay exactly?
>"São Paulo cannot stop"
>A motto of Adhemar's from his first term as governor of Sao Paulo. Just as São Paulo cannot stop growing, Brazil can not stop. Adhemar will ensure Brazil will rise to meet its destiny as one of the worlds greatest nations in the New Order.
>To celebrate Brazilian Independence Day, here is another teaser for Adhemar de Barros, showing part of his economic tree. This branch focuses on continuing the developmentalist revolution in Brazil and furthering the cause of industrialisation with new megaprojects,
>There are two other branches of his economic tree as well, expect to see these in the future.
luv me brazil content
simple as
Is Rapop the savior of TNO?
Not until he gets rid of his shitty consultant
Do I get to glass Germany in any of the new content coming soon?
you already can
How? What country/route?
Just launch nukes as any superpower
step 1: pick America or japan
Step 2: go into the trade screen
step 3: in one of the tabs there should be a large nuclear symbol with two red rectangles next too it
Step 4: click the rectangles so they become green
Step 5: click the nuclear symbol
Step 6: oh god oh frick what have I done it wasn't supposed to go like this
Step 7: germany is obliterated
Really? As Ukraine?
What does /tno/ think of this literal who that lurks this thread and posts in the 2WRW discord?
I mean, he's not wrong, this place is a panzerite den. But he's still a gay for b***hing about us in his discord instead of here in the lion's den
>panzerite den
What's with this LARPing, you are a video game mod not a political party
Now release Italy already and cut both Dem and Red Italy if you have to.
>you
not a dev moron
by panzerite I mean anons who idealize the panzer era and hate every single change the devs make
Make more good changes then. I like that you can partially recolonize Africa for an example.
As who though? Italy? Can't recall any nation being able to colonize
Make new content that allows the player to do something fun like beating Germany back as one of the puppets. We had Wales beating England as a good easter egg, do something like that with the newer content, it'll be nice.
Both Italy and Germany and at least partially reclaim their colonies if they are fine with managing the costs and logistics, which was a good change
Why are you asking me of all people? I already said I'm not a dev. I have no idea how you got that idea.
>the battery guy is there too
what’s his endgame?
TNO IS FRICKING DEAD
THEY FRICKING KILLED IT
THEY KILLED THE MOD
NOW ITS JUST THOUSAND WEEK REICH BUT SHITTIER
bait of the lowest quality
It's just a color, Dick, calm down.
The only thing that can 100% be argued is incorrect in this post is that TNO is now TWR but shittier.
kino event
hopefully nuSpeer's characterization will be more consistent in the rework
But twr doesn't need to justify it's existence by constantly removing things like tno?
Partification: 100
Dissent: 0
Opposition: Utterly destroyed.
Slavs: Dead.
Yep, it's Bormann time.
That’s actually a Speer event I think, given that the option text is his GCW capitulation quote and the mention of regime stability.
>TWR
homie TWR is literally the most half-baked boring and slow shit I have touched. It runs like molasses and crashes every three seconds
>purple is the new hanseong of TNO
I'm making a list, add some that I missed. Let's get this show on the road.
>it doesn't need Finnish content
>it doesn't need Indian content
>it doesn't need B.E.E.F
>it doesn't need DSR
>it doesn't need RK Madagascar focus tree
>it doesn't need Italian Algeria Focus tree
>it doesn't need Atlantropa
>it doesn't need Italian Palestine Focus tree
>it doesn't need Globalplans
>it doesn't need Order 44
>it doesn't need Glenn
>it doesn't need Space content
>it doesn't need Wales
>it doesn't need Scotland
>it doesn't need Goering
>it doesn't need PRC
>it doesn't need Alexander Men
>it doesn't need Basegi Brigade
>it doesn't need Bogi Smerti
>it doesn't need Pleskau
>it doesn't need Brittany
>it doesn't need Berezniki
>it doesn’t need space content
UNIRONICALLY TRUE, FRICK TFF AND FRICK GLENN
I would discount Scotland and Wales for now, if the new content for Britan ends up being shit then they can get readded along with HMMLR since there won't be any content for them for a long time, but if the content is good we can just let them go
The paths seem interesting at least, I'm excited for Wilson being able to flip during the Oil Crisis and Wallop's Soccred.
Based
For me it's Fountaine (both paths) but Wallop also seems fun. A shame that his Britain will always be a shithole though
Half of these things had no content and the other half did but nobody played them because it was literal dogshit
WRONG, I played the frick out of Italian Algeria's 10-focus generic icons-only tree
>It doesn't need the NPP
>It needs a cold war between two literally who South American countries that don't even have nukes
Brazil can have nukes
Does this mod have actual wars with division layouts and stuff like the base game? Whenever I see any screenshots its always a zoomed out map where what should be Russia has like 20 different states alone with names like the Siberian Hitlerite Confederation or some other autistic shit
Russian warlords, England, Scotland, South africa, the african reichskommisariats, yunnan, and China all have actual proper wars. If China starts losing then Japan can also join the war.
Germany and England have civil wars.
These are the playable countries that have wars but the superpowers can send volunteers too most civil wars.
Yo Speer!
Glad that they are atleast keeping Dentist Speer
They're expanding on the endings, see
More on the lag
I never got why Speer was the reformist who reigns in the big companies when he was the one that relied on slave labor the most. Shouldn't he be the one that expands them?
if I remember correctly the book he wrote was all about Hitler was at fault for all the evil shit the Nazis did and that Speer and the rest of them were just following orders.
That's because Panzer initially bought into the whole "good nazi" myth, he later rectified it but the idea of Speer as a reformer stuck
Apart from that, hypocrisy is a big theme in Speer's narrative: the man who introduced slave labor into the reich now dismantling it because it empowers him politically. Speer found a niche in the reformist current of the NSDAP and exploited it for his own gain.
>pic
Man, old speer trees really were something else lol
Panzerite Speer accidentally being written as the hardest golden path in the entire mod which requires steins gate tier looping (save scumming) until the perfect timeline is checked and then he kneels before Hitler's grave was utter ludokino tbh
I fricking love Brazil
I fricking love building megaprojects
Just unified Russia (Except Moscow region, its ruled by some Germoids) as Siberia's Black Army, got the mod outro thing. is there anything else worth doing?? (since i cant declare war on Moscow to capture it) or should i just start a new run?
That's where the mod ends, yes.
install the 2wrw mod to be able to glass the teutons into the stratosphere
but default russia stuff ends at unification
So how's the horn of africa looking in PW?
We got a teaser last year about it
oops just realized I stitched the images in the wrong order lol
And that's everything
Thanks.