At this point we really need a new TNOredux now considering the state of this mod is going for where devs keep boring shits one after the another while holding interesting contents behind the shelf. I know that there had been an attempt before and how badly that went but who can say that we can’t do it the second time? I think we really need to keep the Redux content small at first and then expand it. First content should be focus on no content russian warlords since that’s the main area where you can easily fill stuff with then move to Burgundy’s rework, Glenn Presidency, African Adios + Muller / Wolfgang / Boer and Collapse.
I personally think that African contents could be legitimately be a nice starting point if it’s not russia since there’s not much content going for any of the nations while you can pull up wacky stuff in the collapse or go full nazi TND victory with Han Huttig. Burgundy is absolutely should be major point for the redux because I think that Game master Burgundy spy state is interesting. Maybe hitler granted himmler a state exlsuively for countering CIA/Kenpeitei? which would justify them existing, and Germany still a major superpower despite them being in a civil war since that “Master of Europe” role went to Burgundy temporary.
I personally think that African contents could be legitimately be a nice starting point if it’s not russia since there’s not much content going for any of the nations while you can pull up wacky stuff in the collapse or go full nazi TND victory with Han Huttig. Burgundy is absolutely should be major point for the redux because I think that Game master Burgundy spy state is interesting. Maybe hitler granted himmler a state exlsuively for countering CIA/Kenpeitei? which would justify them existing, and Germany still a major superpower despite them being in a civil war since that “Master of Europe” role went to Burgundy temporary.
There is nothing stopping you or any interested parties from recruiting a team and beginning development.
Hilarious to see how bad you want this troony fantasy mod to succeed because it's currently the closest thing to a /misc/ wet dream mod yet.
Reminder that if these gays weren't trying to stick to realistic endings given TNO scenario, every path at the right of Sablin would end in a failstate. >w-we'll j-just make a redux!!!
This time will surely work!
Iberian regional splinters
Morocco can get bigger if they defeat Trarza
Colombia
Romania
Italian East Africa
France (Italy Aligned)
The last 3 assuming Italy is in the CPS of course
>The Rif republic can include Trarza?
I think so. >Colombia is such a gambit
Just use CCP >and I have never seen AI Italy manage to get East Africa sadly
They only do it if they go neofascist
Iberian regional splinters
Morocco can get bigger if they defeat Trarza
Colombia
Romania
Italian East Africa
France (Italy Aligned)
The last 3 assuming Italy is in the CPS of course
dem italy can also puppet saudi arabia through their focus tree
>The Rif republic can include Trarza?
I think so. >Colombia is such a gambit
Just use CCP >and I have never seen AI Italy manage to get East Africa sadly
They only do it if they go neofascist
Thank you Anons, will try another game after the update, so far I think one of the biggest goals i have is to get a bigger GDP than the US while not going into >100% of debt balance, managed to get pretty close but I think as soon as we get the Oil Crisis tree it will be much easier.
>The only way to survive is to build up China and the more you build up China the more they use your money to make guns to kill you and every single one of your puppets has huge insurgencies you need to try and deal with oh and btw the Army and Navy both have independent nuclear stockpiles and hate one another and are sponsoring foreign insurgencies in places like Australia without your permission and the liberals are getting antsy and planning on shooting the Emperor and the fascists are pissy and planning on shooting the Emperor and the Communists are being funded by America and planning on shooting the Emperor and your enemies won't leave you the frick alone because America is all about this cold war nonsense and you just want them to fricking go away and if you abandon the treaty ports then the Army and Navy will revolt but if you don't America might invade and the only way to run the ports is to let American workers in but they keep coming in with explosive vests and Germany keeps talking about invading you and Russian warlords keep raiding your colonies like the Mongols and the Chinese warlords are still fricking killing your men and eachothers even though they keep saying they're loyal to you.
whoa, Panzer, I kneel...
It doesn't, Chrisuam (the lead 2WRW dev) and literally works on the main mod and several devs from the main mod like Yugo also work for 2WRW
The reason they haven't been integrated is because their vision for TNO2 differs from the main mod's vision
False dawn is Brazil, I think that people way overestimated the speed of development for turkey and mexico, I can't see either making a release this year
Yeah don’t forgot germany and Manchuria Q1 or Q2
Germany in Q2 I agree, but Manchuria? Unless its very partial content there's no way they can push that for Q2.
False dawn is Brazil, I think that people way overestimated the speed of development for turkey and mexico, I can't see either making a release this year
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Germany in Q2 I agree, but Manchuria? Unless its very partial content there's no way they can push that for Q2.
hey whoever keeps leaking builds are you going to post false dawn or what?
leaker reporting. false dawn hitting steam workshop tomorrow provided i don't get bored.
Cool
>"Leaker-Chan, I kneel."
ETA now.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3038493119
Is the Heldenvolk anon in here? I was wondering if integration with main TNO is possible (after, presumably, finishing the first path etc, whatever). Have you been in touch with them? I think certainly they'll never get around to it otherwise, so it seems plausible. Hope the /vst/ posting doesn't hamper your chances, though.
Integrating with TNO is still the long term intent I have since I've got an interesting (and fun to play) story to tell and I'd like for as many people to experience it when it's all done rather then it just staying a submod that not everyone who plays TNO will know about.
As for posting here, I'm only here to talk about Heldenvolk, i don't forsee it being a problem and if it is, I'll just leave.
That's good, I'd love to see it! A fun OFN minor never hurts. And yeah, hopefully it's nbd but definitely err on the side of caution if need be. Gonna join your server soon, maybe.
So is Jeckeln gone from ostland in the future? The same people I've seen behind the push against esonaz and Burgundy are talking about him more and more.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3038320548
You chuds can’t keep getting away with this. You will be found, and you will be banned.
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Looked over Red Italy, actually hyped now wtf... why didn't they devote more time to this rather than unfinished Ukraine slop. Italy team is cursed to have the best content but never release
booted up the leak. Initial impressions as turkey is it runs like absolute dogshit. Turkey has a intelligence branch system where you can recruit operation leaders for bonuses. Also a seccesionist killing gui alongside basic election shit.
Balbo seems completely playable except the diplo tree (and maybe oil crisis, idk how to check)
Muti's mechanic is not done it seems, but most of his focuses have effects (again, bar the fiplo and prob OC)
Giani is like Balbo one of the most coded
Pavolini is barebones
Muti's colonial tree (rest of his tree hasn't changed from the 2021 build, there's a video on youtube showcasing it)
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And his mechanic. It looks better than the old version but this one is completely non functional atm
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?feature=shared
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Balbo's mechanic has also recieved a visual improvement
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with projects selected
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Corruptionmaxxing
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Egypt is Oligarchic liberalism
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Any failstates for fash italy in debug options?
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no, only inauguration, main, and epilogue options for each duce
dem italy has piano solo failstate and red italy has 2: hardline communist Vittorio Valdi and Reactionary coup under Randolfo Pacciardi (pic rel)
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Pacciardi's tree
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Vittorio's tree
He's Marxist-Leninist (aka Stalinist)
This is all pretty great but you can tell reading the loc that atlanteuropa being removed fricked development time, as they now have to rework all of the loc and in 2023 it is still not done
it can't take that long to read through the loc and rewrite the references to Atlantropa
I'd say editing guis is harder, and they're all done except the greek ones
All this Italy content is so much better than anything since Guadong, why the frick is it not being priortized for release instead of fricking Mexico and Ukraine?
Wrong, TNO has moronic EU bureaucracy LARP where people spend most of their time making flowcharts and proposals instead of modding. It's easier to get a real job than be a fricking hoi4 modder
If you played the 2021 leaked build you'll have noticed that barely anything new has been added to Italy (especially fash ita). There's also weird things like references to Atlantropa still being there and the Comintern mechanic looking worse that the teased one.
Makes me wonder if work is being done on a private build and then slowly added to the git for testing
>Constant purges to ensure loyalty >Keeping everything on lockdown to stop others from seeing what they're doing
No wonder they're getting rid of Burgundy, it reminds them too much of themselves!
>inactive contributers
So like 90% of the team? Epic
Lol so ruin's getting delayed again
>Constant purges to ensure loyalty >Keeping everything on lockdown to stop others from seeing what they're doing
No wonder they're getting rid of Burgundy, it reminds them too much of themselves!
yeah, I trust that the purge is real but I doubt that twitter post is related to that.
>everyone obsessed with proposals
It's not a leak until it's actually released. Otherwise it's just an idea someone had and is very much subject to change.
really good to hear. devs if you're reading, FOLLOW THIS LINE. purge if you find the guy, sure, but don't gut development for what are basically (as long as you get the gestapo of reddit and the discord in check suppressing things) a few fans and fricks messing around. personally, i'm a billion times more excited than before. just hold the line, the fact this week-long leaks and discussions around them doesn't happen with, say, KR or OWB is proof people actually give a damn about TNO.
imagine being so moronic you "purge" people because your super secret state documents got leaked
its a fricking mod for a parashart game who cares, there are mods that allow open access to their git
They have almost no progress because they cancel new content right after it's almost done and rework multiple times same things.
This is Amur's facelift btw
>They have almost no progress because they cancel new content right after it's almost done and rework multiple times same things.
jesus christ >amur rework
which of the leaked builds is that on?
Manchukuo pie chart
fascism form darkest to lightest:
Mangyou
Soumuchou
Concordia Association
Manchurian Imperial Army
Natsoc: Kantou-gun
Despotism: Imperial Court
Hoooly fricking based, I don't know who is working on Speer shit but they nail down the desire to larp so perfectly.
Though, why did they rework him? He was already the most developed path.
>Though, why did they rework him? He was already the most developed path.
It's not really a rework and more of a facelift (focus trees and mechanics are largely the same, just expanded with more flavor and depth). If they didn't touch him, then he'd ironically be the least developed path after the other fuhrers are done
this mechanic was already leaked but here are the dissident groups from left to right:
-religious societies
-labour unions
-organised crime
-NAJUA
-north eastern national salvation council (KMT remnants)
-dongbei socialist front
-far eastern partisan command
That's all for Manchuria, gonna do a bit of Germany now
First here's the Nat Spirits.
Hitler's bio hasn't changed I think
Denmark (color is red now), Norway (focus tree was removed) and Sweden have new starting situations
Kaukasien has the new borders
Himmler is still in burgundy
Phase 2 political tree
(some focuses change depending on reformist or hardliner alignment but I'm not gonna post the same tree twice)
Everything in this branch is coded
No loc tho
That's Bormann
I'm done with him now as his epilogue trees are barebones (no icons, no effects, no loc)
Here's Speer's starting tree, very similar to what we have now with a few changes, like Bormann, it seems fully coded and locced
Really interesting. Are you gonna do Heydrich/Himmler/Goring stuff after this?
Also, any more dev docs that weren't dropped last thread? I'm mainly interested in shit like aesthetic/tone style guides, research, all those big meaty 100 pagers that hardly even have gameplay relevance. Also anything to do with the Aryan Brotherhood's remake. Dated or outdated!
Reich economical development mechanic
Has 2 tabs "projects" and "goals". This is the goal tab
I can't find a tooltip but from what I can see you have to meet yearly requirements in those fields and it has a ton of decisions.
New Speerometer + funny event
There's new unshown clades: Control Faction, New Guard, Reactionary SocRevs, Party Reformists, Reformist Technocrats and Inner Circle but they don't have descriptions
Now onto the Phase 2 trees
First, economy. Everything has loc, but the left branch lacks focus effects.
Following Erhard's vision is apparently more important as it's now tracked by an explicit variable
Diplo tree and last part of the previous tree
Diplo looks very similar to bormann's (and everything has loc and effects)
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OC mechanic recieved a touch-up
Really interesting. Are you gonna do Heydrich/Himmler/Goring stuff after this?
Also, any more dev docs that weren't dropped last thread? I'm mainly interested in shit like aesthetic/tone style guides, research, all those big meaty 100 pagers that hardly even have gameplay relevance. Also anything to do with the Aryan Brotherhood's remake. Dated or outdated!
I'll do Heydrich, but Himmler and Goering aren't in the debug decisions so I guess they're not in. >Also, any more dev docs that weren't dropped last thread?
Not the leaker so don't ask me. I'm just playing and showcasing the shit leaked here
I'm the one who leaked the Ruin build 09.11, I see there're some funnies are happening here. I would like to pour some shit to the fan.
|| https://mega.nz/file/HygkhLoY#7Sqg0oeoLA22wTTZi6QUBvMBuXISE1JGsYicPwaNhY8 - Europas Narben ||
|| https://mega.nz/file/K7BlAagQ#fJ5RTXVK6hH0ikc719L0dERYbXiUPsyBezMnzuQLr4s - Penelopes Web ||
|| https://mega.nz/file/6yJzlTBL#G1TNUunwUh2oUhd9oIWLBSGBqMjxSOhbtynqKCctHx0 - Shifting Tides ||
It's time to burn down all bridges)
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OC tree
Focus effects are dynamic depending if you're stability is low or high and the path you take. Everything has loc and effects
(btw the pic in the mechanic changes depending on the cohesion/social status, neat)
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Slave revolt tree (holy shit it's massive)
All locced, no effects
Really interesting. Are you gonna do Heydrich/Himmler/Goring stuff after this?
Also, any more dev docs that weren't dropped last thread? I'm mainly interested in shit like aesthetic/tone style guides, research, all those big meaty 100 pagers that hardly even have gameplay relevance. Also anything to do with the Aryan Brotherhood's remake. Dated or outdated!
OC mechanic recieved a touch-up
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I'll do Heydrich, but Himmler and Goering aren't in the debug decisions so I guess they're not in. >Also, any more dev docs that weren't dropped last thread?
Not the leaker so don't ask me. I'm just playing and showcasing the shit leaked here [...]
I know I said I was gonna do Heydrich but he only has the initial tree (no loc, no effects, no mechanics) which was already posted before so I'll stop here
Sorry for flooding the thread with pics btw
>Bormann and Speer have more playable content than Ukraine and Britain combined
Why the frick didn't they prioritize them instead? Honestly I bet if they crunched they could've finished one of them by december.
i don't know what the frick you're talking about
devs have said very clearly collab uk and rk ukraine are shitty places to live
wtf is "big mod media" anyways
>Mod about Axis winning ww2 >remove any mention of genocide etc over time
what is even the point anymore ? fricking Nu-Wolfenstein had more balls about their nazi won setting than this
I still don't understand how even mods who do it in a very stealthy way with no mentions at all (Like ol" GAMING TOOLS) which had a decision that removed pop (labeled as "realocate population), got nuked, their devs flagged and their livehoods doxxed. It's a fricking game goddamit. I can rape people in CK2 but I can't remove a few gypsies from my beach
Because it's all old-gay developers who make it so they get dicksucked by the fricking troony devs. Seriously hope the fricking devs for that mod eat shit
Iberia and Africa are the shittiest part of the mod
The big frickoff germany colony is so moronic, why would Germany invade Portugal and make it merge with Spain (Btw TNO devs they are different countriess with different politics and diplomacies in case you were wondering)
These are the 2 things I hope they axe as soon as possible
This. You just know the sole reason for the existence of the african rks is because the old devs couldn't be arsed to put in actual effort into that region.
Seeing big GDP numbers are nice, but it get stale after a while. Guandong is kino, but after mogging the Komai coup and reforming the police, things get kinda lamey
They were to be the next generation of Reich civilian and military leaders. One of my great uncles was in the school at Rottweil while my grandfather and his two elder brothers were all fighting in the eastern front.
Have the devs made mention on whether the new patch will be compatible with the patch coming with Arms Against Tyranny? It releases less than two weeks after The Ruin comes out.
They give early access to EaW, MD and KR afaik.
Possibly OWB aswell as they released a full patch within days of one of the more recent major expansions.
>All the important mods get a pie >TNO doesn't
Guess Paradox don't like you fellas.
And yeah OWB get early acess, the ERBX dev was even asking them to share the code with him, so he can keep his mod up to date, but it ended in pizza it seems
lmao no, it'll be outdated for an easy two months.
The new systems look like it'll frick absolutely everything up in the mod(and all other major mods).
Wait, wouldn't a Poland update be perfect for this? >Arms against Tyranny >Poland, liberated, is up against the victor of World War 2, Germany, and their decisions will determine whether they live or die, or maybe a player led path that leads to them kicking the Germans back maybe?
Something like England and Wales or Yunnan maybe? Would be fun to see a player led Poland getting something like Yun and fighting to the death for their freedom.
>Man they better allow Italy to become a new contender in the Cold War with the status of Superpower.
Have you been living under a rock? This has been confirmed for ages
moronic broken economic system from vanilla doesn't scare us. it just makes us laugh at morons like you who can't comprehend actual economic simulation >reeeeeeee i should just be able to spam factories and shit out guns by switching to total mobilization i shouldn't have to worry about the civilian sector at all even though a good chunk of the game revolves around managing the state of the country up until the war
Do we know if Speer will still have his fascist path in the rework? As in the one where he outplays the GO4 and reforms national socialism to be more stable?
which path is the most similar to current Speer path atm?
I assumes it’s “The New Party Paradigm” or something and there’s >Speer evil maxxing Poor Hitler his friend betrays him ;_; >Social Revolutionary larp????? >Klaus Shwab’s German Economic Forum >Bormann party concentration reference??? >wolters what even is this path
I can’t tell which one is spposed to be the most Dengist Speer like
They are just different flavors of the same dengist path based on which faction Speer allied. But I guess the most similar is the technocrat subpath.
The bottom tree is the ending and is the same regardless of subpath (bar one focus). Treskow kills Speer's successor > Wolters becomes the new one.
Just read about him btw.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Wolters >By prior arrangement, he and Speer tried to get in touch with each other by telepathy one New Year's Eve—but both men fell asleep before midnight struck.
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>Wolters concluded his letter with a suggestion that they avoid seeing each other in future, a suggestion with which Speer concurred.[67] In spite of this, Wolters' wife Erika remained close friends with Margarete Speer, Albert Speer's wife. The two men had Christmas presents delivered to each other every year (Wolters sent Speer a ham, while receiving a pot of honey). Speer admitted that because he had had few friends, the estrangement hurt.[66] >In 1975, Wolters attempted a reconciliation, sending Speer a letter for his seventieth birthday in March. Speer responded emotionally, pledging to come visit Wolters at the slightest hint. Speer wrote again two months later, telling Wolters that "despite all inherent contradictions, I am very attached to you".[68] Nevertheless, the two men never met again.[68] >Even in Speer's second book of memoirs, Spandau: The Secret Diaries, Wolters' name is not mentioned, and his hometown is changed; the text refers to him as Speer's "Coburg friend".[69] Speer sent Wolters a copy of the book anyway, though Speer stated that he thought it likely that Wolters would let it sit in his bookcase unread. Wolters responded sarcastically in a letter which he signed, "Duke of Coburg," "I forgive you for not 'localizing' me in the diaries after your modest restraint in [Inside the Third Reich]. The author of the [Chronik], the temporary 'best friend', and the indefatigable contact for Spandau remains nonexistent."
Jesus christ that’s hurt
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>Wolters concluded his letter with a suggestion that they avoid seeing each other in future, a suggestion with which Speer concurred.[67] In spite of this, Wolters' wife Erika remained close friends with Margarete Speer, Albert Speer's wife. The two men had Christmas presents delivered to each other every year (Wolters sent Speer a ham, while receiving a pot of honey). Speer admitted that because he had had few friends, the estrangement hurt.[66] >In 1975, Wolters attempted a reconciliation, sending Speer a letter for his seventieth birthday in March. Speer responded emotionally, pledging to come visit Wolters at the slightest hint. Speer wrote again two months later, telling Wolters that "despite all inherent contradictions, I am very attached to you".[68] Nevertheless, the two men never met again.[68] >Even in Speer's second book of memoirs, Spandau: The Secret Diaries, Wolters' name is not mentioned, and his hometown is changed; the text refers to him as Speer's "Coburg friend".[69] Speer sent Wolters a copy of the book anyway, though Speer stated that he thought it likely that Wolters would let it sit in his bookcase unread. Wolters responded sarcastically in a letter which he signed, "Duke of Coburg," "I forgive you for not 'localizing' me in the diaries after your modest restraint in [Inside the Third Reich]. The author of the [Chronik], the temporary 'best friend', and the indefatigable contact for Spandau remains nonexistent."
Jesus christ that’s hurt
if youre interested here's some new speer events that were teased some time ago. One of them is about Wolters
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I in fact am. Thanks kind xir.
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I like the few moment where Speer becomes serious and manipulates his friend to accepting his new position.
God I love him so much hottest nazi man ever.
Suprising they didn't character assassinate Heydrich to be le evil incompetent with secret daddy issues/is gay/ackshually he's a loser because he's a nahtzee
Guandong Sony path made me actually hate chinks, holy hell. You cave in for their demands and they still frick you shit up. They deserve one thousand years of Komai buck breaking, no doubt
after crying about goering's one, I don't think so
At this point we really need a new TNOredux now considering the state of this mod is going for where devs keep boring shits one after the another while holding interesting contents behind the shelf. I know that there had been an attempt before and how badly that went but who can say that we can’t do it the second time? I think we really need to keep the Redux content small at first and then expand it. First content should be focus on no content russian warlords since that’s the main area where you can easily fill stuff with then move to Burgundy’s rework, Glenn Presidency, African Adios + Muller / Wolfgang / Boer and Collapse.
I personally think that African contents could be legitimately be a nice starting point if it’s not russia since there’s not much content going for any of the nations while you can pull up wacky stuff in the collapse or go full nazi TND victory with Han Huttig. Burgundy is absolutely should be major point for the redux because I think that Game master Burgundy spy state is interesting. Maybe hitler granted himmler a state exlsuively for countering CIA/Kenpeitei? which would justify them existing, and Germany still a major superpower despite them being in a civil war since that “Master of Europe” role went to Burgundy temporary.
>CIA/Kenpeitei
The Kempeitai isn't a japanese CIA, moron. You want to make a redux when you don't even know such a basic thing?
There is nothing stopping you or any interested parties from recruiting a team and beginning development.
are you going to refrain from mass reporting the mod when it releases?
I make no promises
If people want a TNO redux go back to the last stable update, stabilize it, then slowly integrate good content like Ireland and Guadong
All Italy paths, Manchukuo, Mexico, Britain, Ukraine, Iberian Wars splinters, and Brazil have active development right now
They deserve it, you should know that us the dev team will never condone any form of genocide mechanics in our mod.
...which is why Goering got a full rework in the first place.
Which is why Turkey has ethnicity pie charts and lets you TURKIFY ALL THE THINGS, right? Or is it not genocide when brown people do it?
the guy who brought up the idea is a brown troony so there's not much surprise there
turks aren't brown moron
turks are brown you disgusting swarthy ESL
> how dare the nazis act like nazis
10 days
2 weeks are 14 days THOUGHEVER
>the ending
it's kino.
KINO, POST THE FULL DOC
Post the full doc coward
Bravo Corn
>still isnt posting it
Hilarious to see how bad you want this troony fantasy mod to succeed because it's currently the closest thing to a /misc/ wet dream mod yet.
Reminder that if these gays weren't trying to stick to realistic endings given TNO scenario, every path at the right of Sablin would end in a failstate.
>w-we'll j-just make a redux!!!
This time will surely work!
Man, I think I fricked America so hard in this game this happened.
Good job, you won the Cold War.
End game result with Kaya, I swear if Japan had some path to solve the Oil Crisis I could have gotten a bigger GDP than the US.
Did I miss any country?
Next patch will add OC trees for Japan
Thank you Anon! Can't wait for it.
Iberian regional splinters
Morocco can get bigger if they defeat Trarza
Colombia
Romania
Italian East Africa
France (Italy Aligned)
The last 3 assuming Italy is in the CPS of course
Oh and Iraq should have Kurdistan instead of Turkey
Damn so the regional splinters can get aligned to Japan if you support them? I didn't know that.
The Rif republic can include Trarza?
Colombia is such a gambit and I have never seen AI Italy manage to get East Africa sadly.
>The Rif republic can include Trarza?
I think so.
>Colombia is such a gambit
Just use CCP
>and I have never seen AI Italy manage to get East Africa sadly
They only do it if they go neofascist
dem italy can also puppet saudi arabia through their focus tree
Thank you Anons, will try another game after the update, so far I think one of the biggest goals i have is to get a bigger GDP than the US while not going into >100% of debt balance, managed to get pretty close but I think as soon as we get the Oil Crisis tree it will be much easier.
vgh
opinion on competitive HOI4?
Warning to thread-goers; the OP "Lance" may be TNO dev Lancewielder who had involvement in the Kiwifarms drama two years ago.
They removed the associate status because it's inevitably gonna be taken out of steam and they don't want to take any chances with steam
Long live Prime Minister Konoe and the New Order
Long live the Emperor and Co-Prosperity between East Asians
>The only way to survive is to build up China and the more you build up China the more they use your money to make guns to kill you and every single one of your puppets has huge insurgencies you need to try and deal with oh and btw the Army and Navy both have independent nuclear stockpiles and hate one another and are sponsoring foreign insurgencies in places like Australia without your permission and the liberals are getting antsy and planning on shooting the Emperor and the fascists are pissy and planning on shooting the Emperor and the Communists are being funded by America and planning on shooting the Emperor and your enemies won't leave you the frick alone because America is all about this cold war nonsense and you just want them to fricking go away and if you abandon the treaty ports then the Army and Navy will revolt but if you don't America might invade and the only way to run the ports is to let American workers in but they keep coming in with explosive vests and Germany keeps talking about invading you and Russian warlords keep raiding your colonies like the Mongols and the Chinese warlords are still fricking killing your men and eachothers even though they keep saying they're loyal to you.
whoa, Panzer, I kneel...
This is what Panzerists unironically call soul.
Yes. Let me suffer, damnit.
sounds pretty realistic ngl aside from the facists planning on killing the emperor
Sorry, /vstards/ neu TNO is 100% better than whatever this is.
>A released submod is worse than unreleased shit that can't even give 2 years of ukraine content in a year
Lol
what is your issue here besides the overstating of the army-navy rivalry
New 2wrw roadmap
Looks pretty kino ngl. I wish there were more mods like it.
I don’t know why mainline TNO dislikes 2WRW.
bc it's a power fantasy
2WRW is the lamest, shitty researched submod that’s boring and shoves down blue Sablin down your throat.
It doesn't, Chrisuam (the lead 2WRW dev) and literally works on the main mod and several devs from the main mod like Yugo also work for 2WRW
The reason they haven't been integrated is because their vision for TNO2 differs from the main mod's vision
I'm actually kinda excited about petlin, I think there's great potential there
>tukachevsky
>petlin
>batov
>omsk
>werbell
VGH...
will they be up to '82 like novosibirsk?
With omsk I'll imagine they'll reach thermonuclear war before the 80s, but I don't see any reason the rest couldn't, but nothings been confirmed yet
Anyone from the 2wrw team willing to share how long until BOTI
>one west russia unifier
>two west siberia unifiers
>one central siberia unifier
>two east siberia unifiers
what Ukraine path you all looking forward to?
UPA (all paths)
leibbrandt
Shumsky. They took him out of KR so I'm going to enjoy playing him here.
It was over before it even began
TNO devs when they see someone actually working on a mechanic top kek
So I heard /tno/ likes skeleton content.
>Guangdong 2.0 in Borneo
kino
Any skeleton for Italy or the RKs?
>no white raja path
Old tno would NEVER
What the frick is a Langkasuka
nothing we haven't seen yet except maybe the funni abs path
Yep
>the end of the rebellion in malaya begins the japanese reconstruction process
but what if the umajf wins?
still waiting for that italy git leak
Enough leakbaiting, post fanart
no
>that filename
Panda the eternal canadian frick him, kill him, destroy him, obliterate him
All gather at the roundtable.
upload the doc somewhere and post it
here's the map pic linked in there
not the leaker, I just manually copied the link
Turkey soon
Yes
post the doc
So the ruin and false dawn this year, Mexico and turkey next year, I can deal with that
Guessing with the release pushed back it might be in flux but wasn't there a leak saying Brazil, Mexico and Turkey could be released this year?
False dawn is Brazil, I think that people way overestimated the speed of development for turkey and mexico, I can't see either making a release this year
Germany in Q2 I agree, but Manchuria? Unless its very partial content there's no way they can push that for Q2.
Yeah don’t forgot germany and Manchuria Q1 or Q2
ETA now.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3038493119
Big if real
Someone post screenies pls I'm at work rn
just added some on the steam workshop page.
Good job leaker bro for using a alt steam account.
I give my life
Not for shilling, but for you
Build leaker
AVE LEAKER-CHAN AVE FASCISMO
I think the files got banned
Anyone have a backup?
Of course it happens while I'm at work, frick me
upload it to mega, gofile or wherever
>It's down
Shiet. Any archivers?
How do we deal with the leaker(s)? Start banning random team members, starting with greytides and artists then to contributors, until the leaks stop
>killing your mod to own the leaker
Is the Heldenvolk anon in here? I was wondering if integration with main TNO is possible (after, presumably, finishing the first path etc, whatever). Have you been in touch with them? I think certainly they'll never get around to it otherwise, so it seems plausible. Hope the /vst/ posting doesn't hamper your chances, though.
Integrating with TNO is still the long term intent I have since I've got an interesting (and fun to play) story to tell and I'd like for as many people to experience it when it's all done rather then it just staying a submod that not everyone who plays TNO will know about.
As for posting here, I'm only here to talk about Heldenvolk, i don't forsee it being a problem and if it is, I'll just leave.
That's good, I'd love to see it! A fun OFN minor never hurts. And yeah, hopefully it's nbd but definitely err on the side of caution if need be. Gonna join your server soon, maybe.
Question
So is Jeckeln gone from ostland in the future? The same people I've seen behind the push against esonaz and Burgundy are talking about him more and more.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3038320548
You chuds can’t keep getting away with this. You will be found, and you will be banned.
imma go for it, wish me luck
well its real, scanned it and no viruses, should be good
hey whoever keeps leaking builds are you going to post false dawn or what?
leaker reporting. false dawn hitting steam workshop tomorrow provided i don't get bored.
Cool
>"Leaker-Chan, I kneel."
*tink tink AHEM!
Excuse me ladies and gentlemen, pardon my interruption on this fine evening, but I have an announcement to make...
Ahem...
FRICK DEVELOPERS, FRICK REVISIONISTS, FRICK THE DISCORD, FRICK SHILLS, FRICK TRANNIES, FRICK REDDIT AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, FRICK TNOTRANNIES Enjoy your night ladies and gentlemen.
Bloody based for whoever did this.
If it's real, Giani bros, I'm begging you, post screenshot of finished Giani trees/mechanics.
Looked over Red Italy, actually hyped now wtf... why didn't they devote more time to this rather than unfinished Ukraine slop. Italy team is cursed to have the best content but never release
Getting a error message
Someone better save up the files before they remove it
Surprisingly Italy actually looks good
Any differences from the old leaked build? Can't play it rn
It has Penelope's Web
>first proper gameplay leak in ages
>it comes out while i'm at work
>it gets nuked by the time i get home
did anyone archive it?
troony's New Orifice: do the devs know how many genders there are? (It's two)
booted up the leak. Initial impressions as turkey is it runs like absolute dogshit. Turkey has a intelligence branch system where you can recruit operation leaders for bonuses. Also a seccesionist killing gui alongside basic election shit.
Red Italy looks kino, with a lot of mechanical depth
What about fash Italy?
Balbo seems completely playable except the diplo tree (and maybe oil crisis, idk how to check)
Muti's mechanic is not done it seems, but most of his focuses have effects (again, bar the fiplo and prob OC)
Giani is like Balbo one of the most coded
Pavolini is barebones
Thank you. Can you post something interesting from Giani/Muti? Focus trees, GUI's for mechanics.
Sure. Here's Giani's tree. Looks like an eagle. Very cool
his mechanic
he abolishes the monarchy
Muti's colonial tree (rest of his tree hasn't changed from the 2021 build, there's a video on youtube showcasing it)
And his mechanic. It looks better than the old version but this one is completely non functional atm
?feature=shared
Balbo's mechanic has also recieved a visual improvement
with projects selected
Corruptionmaxxing
Egypt is Oligarchic liberalism
Any failstates for fash italy in debug options?
no, only inauguration, main, and epilogue options for each duce
dem italy has piano solo failstate and red italy has 2: hardline communist Vittorio Valdi and Reactionary coup under Randolfo Pacciardi (pic rel)
Pacciardi's tree
Vittorio's tree
He's Marxist-Leninist (aka Stalinist)
I wonder if there will be a full Vittorio path?
Thank you, anon.
Maoist turkey
and tree
Esoteric Kemalist turkey
and tree
Shame that they will remove esoteric nazism soon.
it's not removed, just merged under natsoc
Jesus Christ.
Kino greek industrialization mechanic
TV GUI
monarchy referendum mechanic
absolutist coup failstate
Based, I hope they'll have content
it's a failstate so I guess 100 days tree at most
Oh, I forgot it's she/her tnotrannies
The frick has greece development been doing, this still has Atlantropa in it.
Greece in general has been in a sort of stasis for a while because no one wants to modernize it
Isn't there a whole dev team? Fillmore leads it on the discord.
Comintern GUI
Cute
>PCdoB
Even here, they haunt me.
Forgot to say, factions are:
-Bolshevists (yellow)
-Marxist Leninists (Red)
-Self-determinists (Green)
-Left Internationalists (Orange)
I'm assuming the self determinists are the leftnats, pan africanists, natcoms, etc. But who are the left internationalists? Trots?
Balbo's policy for the empire
Muti's policy for the empire
Pavolini's policy for the empire
This is all pretty great but you can tell reading the loc that atlanteuropa being removed fricked development time, as they now have to rework all of the loc and in 2023 it is still not done
I remember being told that removing Atlantropa would improve things.
it can't take that long to read through the loc and rewrite the references to Atlantropa
I'd say editing guis is harder, and they're all done except the greek ones
Giani's policy for the empire
kino event chain
All this Italy content is so much better than anything since Guadong, why the frick is it not being priortized for release instead of fricking Mexico and Ukraine?
Zelensky bribed the team to finish Ukraini...
Well Zelensky is having to purge his military staff again rn, so he has bigger problems
The release of TNO Ukraine is necessary to win against the eastern mongols trust the plan
TNO has a moronic dev policy where people can work on what they want with whatever pace they want, meaning nothing gets done
They have weekly/monthly quotas
Then how tf did poland not get done? And why is Ukraine only 2 years of content?
dunno don't ask me
Wrong, TNO has moronic EU bureaucracy LARP where people spend most of their time making flowcharts and proposals instead of modding. It's easier to get a real job than be a fricking hoi4 modder
The dev server is in lockdown. Purges are happening. Multiple contribs and artists have been laid off. Doki is restricted.
I KNEEL. You think this will effect ruin release?
no proof didn't happen
Leaker-chan couldn't have leaked 6 millions builds while fighting in a two front war between TNO devs and DDDC
Discord jannies law is in effect
Remain online
The TNOcord moderator corp has assumed direct control
Compilance is mandatory
Leakers will be banned
once again the panzerites are triumphant
proof?
Hope constant leaking eventually kills this fricking mod
I hope not, these leaks have hyped me up
>NOOOOOO people can't play our mod purge everyone!!!!!
since when leaking unfinished still in progress version of a game that is not supposed to be released yet is okay?
since when is twiddling your thumbs and making frickall content in 2 years okay as a dev?
shill
if i could have leaked cubeworld during the 10 year wait, i would.
Imagine being hyped for TNO troonyshit when you could be playing Equestria at War right now
If you played the 2021 leaked build you'll have noticed that barely anything new has been added to Italy (especially fash ita). There's also weird things like references to Atlantropa still being there and the Comintern mechanic looking worse that the teased one.
Makes me wonder if work is being done on a private build and then slowly added to the git for testing
push the final nail into the coffin and drop EN
>barely anything changed from the 2021 leak
Dead mod
Bro one more flowchart, one more doc trust me, restarting France development from the beginning will be better in the long run bro
>restarting France development from the beginning will be better in the long run bro
unironically
namegay gtfo
It might actully be the 2021 build just changed form post atlantropa borders by leaker-sama
Did this homie scam us
clearly not, Giani wasn't so complete in 2021
Nah it's real. They just did FRICK ALL IN 2 YEARS
I love wiener I'm a huge homosexual
Devs posted this on twitter. Leaker-chan, care to explain what this means?
https://twitter.com/TNOmod/status/1704512873915900009?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Performing a sweep of the dev team, any inactive contribs, artists, and greytides are being removed indiscriminately.
>inactive contributers
So like 90% of the team? Epic
don't think so, nothing much changes if they were inactive
Lol so ruin's getting delayed again
>Constant purges to ensure loyalty
>Keeping everything on lockdown to stop others from seeing what they're doing
No wonder they're getting rid of Burgundy, it reminds them too much of themselves!
An actually good thing if they're inactive
yeah, I trust that the purge is real but I doubt that twitter post is related to that.
perhaps, but That tweet is directly quoting from the Holy Russian Empire, which implies purging.
we'll see
germany git leak next please
bad goyim
shame on the goym!
>everyone obsessed with proposals
It's not a leak until it's actually released. Otherwise it's just an idea someone had and is very much subject to change.
idc I enjoy reading them, even if they're not definitive
So TNO Redux Reborn, when?
You didn't miss anything worth attention, they barely added any stuff from the 2021 leaked builds
Dead mod
I'm the one who leaked the Ruin build 09.11, I see there're some funnies are happening here. I would like to pour some shit to the fan.
|| https://mega.nz/file/bBFGHZJT#a4lNsnLLzHWHG1iic5yHwgL1kK1VAE5qmT2Iqi7k2EM - Hotline Manchukuo ||
|| https://mega.nz/file/TIMmVBKC#939MhfLfR3G0UQdenlK0R5AY54x8lGlnSs42H8BzHhw - Illusions End ||
|| https://mega.nz/file/SBtSmZAD#CDYh4s4SBz3GjvBSOjOpQ4RnGgaDhnq39ehNTVFzbhs - Penelopes Web ||
|| https://mega.nz/file/CZt1CZwa#O0Yfzil-VqfJBwH_yuWvGkbDK5XF7DG5iM7rdO-rqdg - Germany Branch ||
|| https://mega.nz/file/SJ0HjDrC#jeTd9dcOuCeNpAZvrM_tFJjaSKjWLhVpSibBVqj_eWg - Shifting Tides ||
Builds of July 2022 for comparison
|| https://mega.nz/file/HygkhLoY#7Sqg0oeoLA22wTTZi6QUBvMBuXISE1JGsYicPwaNhY8 - Europas Narben ||
|| https://mega.nz/file/K7BlAagQ#fJ5RTXVK6hH0ikc719L0dERYbXiUPsyBezMnzuQLr4s - Penelopes Web ||
|| https://mega.nz/file/6yJzlTBL#G1TNUunwUh2oUhd9oIWLBSGBqMjxSOhbtynqKCctHx0 - Shifting Tides ||
It's time to burn down all bridges)
I am a bit of a moron, how do I launch them? Replacing TNO files with those or what?
I fricking kneel
Holy shit
Leaker sama I kneel
NO NO NO AHAHAHA
someone download this now to have a back up in case they go down
TNOxisters.... how will we ever recover from this???
You will never win OR get your name in the TNO development credits.
French gui even more fricking insane than Guangdong one
The devs don't give a frick about these leaks.
That's good honestly if true, they should just keep working on the mod while ignoring this place
>implying Ashley ignores us
Ashley I hope you're doing good btw, those losers better not have purged you
too late
i already got to cuddle her in bed
Fake and cuck, Ashley is giving birth to my mongoloid sons rn
Frick you. Both Ashley and Jane are cuddling me right now and you will never have children chud.
based, there really is no point in purging at this point, I wonder if at some point they'll just create a git channel like every other hoi4 mod
really good to hear. devs if you're reading, FOLLOW THIS LINE. purge if you find the guy, sure, but don't gut development for what are basically (as long as you get the gestapo of reddit and the discord in check suppressing things) a few fans and fricks messing around. personally, i'm a billion times more excited than before. just hold the line, the fact this week-long leaks and discussions around them doesn't happen with, say, KR or OWB is proof people actually give a damn about TNO.
imagine being so moronic you "purge" people because your super secret state documents got leaked
its a fricking mod for a parashart game who cares, there are mods that allow open access to their git
LEAKER-SAMA I KNEEL
Literally all of this was leaked last week.
where? because only The Ruin was leaked here
The very last thread
HHAHAHHAAHAHHA leaker 0, devs 1
i don't get it
if all that was really leaked 1 week ago then why was no one talking about it?
Because people support the devs/OFN and not even everyone thinks leakers/Nazi Germany should win.
Kys cord troons
So uh, which of these are the most complete? In fact which nation in these are the most complete and/or have the most content?
Based
Everyone better be creating back ups we finally got our redux foundation
I kneel leaker-sama
hey leaker-kun false dawn has been taken down
reup?
Any funny screenshots from the dev server?
poking through the files there seems to be almost nothing new for germany
manchuria seems limited too
hm
theyre making almost no progress at all
TNObros
Is it actually joever?
Pretty sure manchuria has a lot of guis coded and Bormann and Speer have some trees also coded
they added this
They have almost no progress because they cancel new content right after it's almost done and rework multiple times same things.
This is Amur's facelift btw
>They have almost no progress because they cancel new content right after it's almost done and rework multiple times same things.
jesus christ
>amur rework
which of the leaked builds is that on?
>which of the leaked builds is that on?
None, it cancelled. Another Russian facelift will never be released.
I hate anime and vtubers
>Moe mod is now canon
Would the be single most based move
so this is what they've done all this time uh
That artwork is fricking amazing.
Amur is one of my favourite eastern countries.
Is it true they're reworking France from the ground up? Why's that?
Read the France doc
France right now plays second fiddle to the USA, when in actuality it stands alone and should be treated as such.
Kinda in the fith time
I hate red Italia and Captcha and ponies
ooooooh
yo speer! yo speer! yo speer!
New Hitler portrait?
it's already old
Oh, may we see it?
They did Hitler dirty. He'd be 73 in 1962, he looks 90 there.
Also
>no blue eyes
newbies getting surprised at 2 yesr old shit
The devs have literally done nothing, holy frick lmao.
They changed the entire Adriatic coastline and made it closer to OTL.
>G-guys this is all old, it’s *last weeks* build, d-d-devs win again!
>Uh, Chuds they didn’t change nothing, they removed old content! Devs win again!
>Manchukuo may barely be playable, but at least it’s something!
>july 2022
git-days-of-europe-penelopes-web.zip 1.40 GB
>september 2023
git-days-of-europe-penelopes-web.zip 2.06 GB
Frick are you talking about, first few years of Manchuria are playable on the Hotline branch
>There is another full rework of Heydrich
you fricking moron its been known for ages
we even had his doc leaked
And they just did't change that and don't progressed at all. TNO is dead mod.
what the frick are you talking about
He is just like Schörner just with bonus 100 day trees
>I am Heydrich
10/10 writing
>I am Hitler focus in Bormann’s current tree.
Kino
The devs are enacting the emergency order.
proof
DEVS ARE PANICKING. THEY ARE PURGING PEOPLE ON THE GIT.
-Q
LEAKER-SAMA I HOPE YOU'RE SAFE
Everything must go.
**Evsrything**
fake news
Prove it
What's the most complete path for Italy in the git
Balbo
Shills panicking ITT
Afghanistan has new skeleton content in the manchuria update
If you were a TNO character, what would your ideology, super event song and quote be?
Manchukuo pie chart
fascism form darkest to lightest:
Mangyou
Soumuchou
Concordia Association
Manchurian Imperial Army
Natsoc: Kantou-gun
Despotism: Imperial Court
Dissidents
Too lazy to make a webm but the card dealing animation is quite nice and smooth
it's way too fricking slow jesus christ
Big building would be bigger
Hoooly fricking based, I don't know who is working on Speer shit but they nail down the desire to larp so perfectly.
Though, why did they rework him? He was already the most developed path.
>Though, why did they rework him? He was already the most developed path.
It's not really a rework and more of a facelift (focus trees and mechanics are largely the same, just expanded with more flavor and depth). If they didn't touch him, then he'd ironically be the least developed path after the other fuhrers are done
Institutions GUI, it's completely different from the one in the teaser. The 2 symbols at the top are Authenticity and Jap Approval respectively
not home from work, how playable is Germany?
Not playable at all.
Special projects gui is basically GNG's product cycles but less costly (or maybe it's not balanced yet)
this mechanic was already leaked but here are the dissident groups from left to right:
-religious societies
-labour unions
-organised crime
-NAJUA
-north eastern national salvation council (KMT remnants)
-dongbei socialist front
-far eastern partisan command
GDP race tooltip
anyone checked out the TSS build yet?
there's no tss build
i meant shifting tides, sorry
Park Chung Hee is the HoS in Sejima's path (dunno if this will still be the case given the sejima drama in the dev server)
And Yu Jingtao is the HoS instead of Katakura in the Kantou-gun coup
That's all for Manchuria, gonna do a bit of Germany now
First here's the Nat Spirits.
Hitler's bio hasn't changed I think
Denmark (color is red now), Norway (focus tree was removed) and Sweden have new starting situations
Kaukasien has the new borders
Himmler is still in burgundy
Are there ANY infos about Goering?
Also I Speer still a dentist?
Woops image came out wrong, sorry
I'm a fricking retaaaard
Speer is still reformist, this has been confirmed ages ago
I got nothing on goering
What a travesty there's no black or purple in that piechart anymore. It's all one big brown sea of boring.
Assorted laws
they all have meme descriptions
Bormann science mechanic
I hope that we're able to found an Adolf Hitler university
Not yet shown Bormann clades. There's also Heydrich (SS) but he doesn't have a description
Bormann's inauguration tree 1
inauguration tree 2
(all focuses have effects and almost all have loc btw)
Reformist post-inauguration mini tree (all have effects)
ditto but reactionary
Phase 2 political tree
(some focuses change depending on reformist or hardliner alignment but I'm not gonna post the same tree twice)
Everything in this branch is coded
No loc tho
Economy tree
Again everything coded
This one is fully locced
Technology/Research tree
All coded, all locced
Icons are holy fricking kino
Is GCW still in or have they started implementing its replacement?
Diplo tree
that's everything for this tree, now I'll post the mechanics
GCW is still in (pretty much everything up to the end of the GCW hasn't changed)
Is this Bormann or Speer?
That's Bormann
I'm done with him now as his epilogue trees are barebones (no icons, no effects, no loc)
Here's Speer's starting tree, very similar to what we have now with a few changes, like Bormann, it seems fully coded and locced
part 2 of Speer's first tree
basically same as above
Really interesting. Are you gonna do Heydrich/Himmler/Goring stuff after this?
Also, any more dev docs that weren't dropped last thread? I'm mainly interested in shit like aesthetic/tone style guides, research, all those big meaty 100 pagers that hardly even have gameplay relevance. Also anything to do with the Aryan Brotherhood's remake. Dated or outdated!
Situations GUI (basically crises that happen). I only have Partisan-Hunting mechanic available
Reich economical development mechanic
Has 2 tabs "projects" and "goals". This is the goal tab
I can't find a tooltip but from what I can see you have to meet yearly requirements in those fields and it has a ton of decisions.
Project tab, basically the one we have now but overhauled and with the addition of building projects and megaprojects (VGH)
Theres a TON of projects
YESSSSSS PATRIOTS IN CONTROL HOW I WAKE UP KNOWING THE IMMORTAL VISION OF MARTIN BORMANN AND THE PARTY CHANCELLERY REIGNS SUPREME
Oil crisis tree but we've already seen this
>MGR reference
Dare I say, kino?
Bormann has new trait when he gets old
New Speerometer + funny event
There's new unshown clades: Control Faction, New Guard, Reactionary SocRevs, Party Reformists, Reformist Technocrats and Inner Circle but they don't have descriptions
Zollverein GUI hasn't changed from what was teased previously
Now onto the Phase 2 trees
First, economy. Everything has loc, but the left branch lacks focus effects.
Following Erhard's vision is apparently more important as it's now tracked by an explicit variable
Mil tree from what I'm seeing hasn't changed at all
Research/Tech tree
Everything has loc most focuses don't have effects
Icons are dope tho
Someone already posted this but here's the Berlin renovation tree
No loc or effects
Megacorp/Second economy tree
Again, no loc or effects
Diplo tree and last part of the previous tree
Diplo looks very similar to bormann's (and everything has loc and effects)
OC mechanic recieved a touch-up
I'll do Heydrich, but Himmler and Goering aren't in the debug decisions so I guess they're not in.
>Also, any more dev docs that weren't dropped last thread?
Not the leaker so don't ask me. I'm just playing and showcasing the shit leaked here
OC tree
Focus effects are dynamic depending if you're stability is low or high and the path you take. Everything has loc and effects
(btw the pic in the mechanic changes depending on the cohesion/social status, neat)
Slave revolt tree (holy shit it's massive)
All locced, no effects
i fricking hate all these leaks because they genuinely show promise but you just know they're never coming out
Props to the dev team though. Despite our whining, they still carry on and hopefully, we might get a big update in the future. Hopefully.
Speerist epilogue tree
No loc or effects
Go4 epilogue tree
Has some effects, but no loc
Oberlander is barebones (no loc, effects or icons)
Same as Abs
I know I said I was gonna do Heydrich but he only has the initial tree (no loc, no effects, no mechanics) which was already posted before so I'll stop here
Sorry for flooding the thread with pics btw
any focus trees from illusion's end?
I don't have it downloaded rn (frick mega's dl limit) so I can't post them now, sorry
do keep us updated on things like IE and ST when you get them fren
it's whitepilling knowing there was something done for this mod
🙂
last thing, funni strasserist Flyg is neosocialist now
Literally who + I don't care
an antisemite
>Bormann and Speer have more playable content than Ukraine and Britain combined
Why the frick didn't they prioritize them instead? Honestly I bet if they crunched they could've finished one of them by december.
Because the team is anti-Euro and pro-great replacement.
???
Britain and Ukraine are in Europe
Because "bad guys" aren't allowed to have good things. That's why Italy beem stuck into the coombers for a while.
If this mod don't sort itself out, you start seeing "submods" that use the leaked builds as a basis, for sure
>rk ukraine and collab britain aren't "the bad guys"
homie what
According to big mod media, no.
i don't know what the frick you're talking about
devs have said very clearly collab uk and rk ukraine are shitty places to live
wtf is "big mod media" anyways
>bad guys aren't allowed to have good things
Bro both of the next two countries to release are "kill partisans bottom text"
That's why they will be stuck in dev hell
Nah they can't back down now, if TNO jannies frick up releasing this one then it's dead mod for good tbh.
Especially considering they already announced Poland and the team straight up shit itself
Dunno, don't trust 'em. They looks like the sort of folk who would rather die in shit than cast their pride aside
Cool to see Germany content is atleast this far ahead, hopefully it’ll be done before the team dies of old age
I'm gonna be real, Bormann is shaping up to be cooler than Speer. He's not the boringman anymore.
>Heydrich will top this with kino spy nazi action and him brawling with Glenn at the finale, ON SPACE
>all these TNO leaks
>still no TRO leaks
What the frick happened?
New days of Eurasia? I would kill for a leak from them that focuses on China.
I just want the Spain demo. I know the UK lead for TRO is also the lead for TFL so I'm guessing content for that won't be out for some time.
TNO took 4 or 5 years to make the basegame, wait another 2, I suspect well get the spain demo some time next year.
You know, those Manchuko folks...they are quite classy!
Moe Mod chads, I kneel
Is…is that oboro?
Yeah, and the Kenpentai are Taimanin bawds
That’s Fricking beautiful
>Mod about Axis winning ww2
>remove any mention of genocide etc over time
what is even the point anymore ? fricking Nu-Wolfenstein had more balls about their nazi won setting than this
I still don't understand how even mods who do it in a very stealthy way with no mentions at all (Like ol" GAMING TOOLS) which had a decision that removed pop (labeled as "realocate population), got nuked, their devs flagged and their livehoods doxxed. It's a fricking game goddamit. I can rape people in CK2 but I can't remove a few gypsies from my beach
United UMC chads stay winning.
It’s some steam workshop stuff
>remove any mention of genocide etc over time
they're literally adding assorted laws explaining the state of Generalplan Ost
>all this simping and bootlicking for the devs
This is basically r/tno/ at this point
now that the devs have stated this about leaks, can the leibbrandt guy leak the doc or is he gonna keep being a pussy
New subideologies coming in the next updates:
>communist_trotskyism_subtype: "Bolshevik-Leninism"
>liberal_conservatism_oligarchic_liberalism_subtype: "Oligarchic Liberalism"
>liberal_conservatism_centrist_progressivism_subtype: "Centrist Progressivism"
>conservatism_liberal_corporatism_subtype: "Liberal Corporatism"
>conservatism_progressive_conservatism_subtype: "Progressive Conservatism"
>paternalism_subhasism_subtype: "Subhasism"
>paternalism_herrerism_subtype: "Herrerism"
>despotism_aristocratic_republicanism_subtype: "Aristocratic Republicanism"
>fascism_neosocialism_subtype: "Neosocialism"
>fascism_british_fascism_1_subtype: "British Fascism" (+3 variants)
>fascism_social_credit_subtype: "Social Credit"
>national_socialism_naturalised_nazism_subtype: "Naturalised National Socialism"
>national_socialism_national_socialist_orthodoxy_subtype: "National Socialist Orthodoxy"
>national_socialism_rosenbergite_tendency_subtype: "Rosenbergite Tendency"
>esoteric_nazism_esoteric_kemalism_subtype: "Esoteric Kemalism" (will be natsoc)
Frick I forgot Idiosyncratic conservatism
Sorry Powellbros
DV is not slated for integration, panzerites took their first victory.
the mod is literally otl africa in TNO, only morons seriously thought it was gonna be integrated
Considering how the devs were creaming their pants over it, it was a possibility.
Eh, I've seen devs say it was very uninspired and a missed opportunity because of what I said earlier.
Because it's all old-gay developers who make it so they get dicksucked by the fricking troony devs. Seriously hope the fricking devs for that mod eat shit
Actually joever
Iberia and Africa are the shittiest part of the mod
The big frickoff germany colony is so moronic, why would Germany invade Portugal and make it merge with Spain (Btw TNO devs they are different countriess with different politics and diplomacies in case you were wondering)
These are the 2 things I hope they axe as soon as possible
Because the Iberian Union is an excuse for another regional power. Without it, you'd probably just end up with OTL Spain and Portugal.
Iberia IS Spain in content and forpol
Separate Portugal from it
>why would Germany invade Portugal and make it merge with Spain
They don't moron, they join together voluntarily to resist potential German aggression
They conquer their colonies militarily, that sounds like an invasion
>Iberia and Africa are the shittiest part of the mod
>Iberia
t. never played Iberia
This. You just know the sole reason for the existence of the african rks is because the old devs couldn't be arsed to put in actual effort into that region.
Excellent. It looked like otl africa tossed into tno and it just doesnt fit.
Germany starts with the netherlands annexed and cored in the rework. Also new denmark color
Show off new Norway.
There isn't much to show. New name, new leader, new nat spirits and that's it. Tree has been removed btw
>Tree removed
why?
When partification is complete Bormann's trait gets upgraded
I guess bc one played it and the new skeleton makes it obsolete
>tips fedora
VGH
Bormann actually prepares for the 2wrw
German forpol tree is shared between all fuhrers it seems. Bormann is the most flexible, he can choose between diplomacy or hawkishness
>No Goering mention
I don't think they have a plan for him yet lmao.
They dont, its in super early proposal phase
It should focus around Göring turning carinhall into the german palace of versailles all the while doing corrupt shit
goofy ahhh muti portrait
Are there any funny portraits for Giani/Balbo?
No, they only have 1
Pavolini has 2 but one is his minister portrait and the other is his duce one
Damn, I wonder if goofy ahh Muti portrait is actually his failstate portrait.
My guess is:
Unibrow Muti: moderate path
Smiling Muti: radical path
Does the IJN still intervene if you frick up during the Guandong crisis and cause a failstate or it was a skeleton content?
it's the IJA, not the navy but yes
it even has a mini tree
isn't that the tree where all the focuses automatically complete because (You)'ve lost all control?
that was the most kino the storytelling got
New teaser
wholesome nazi british republic
How the frick anyone can enjoy the awful lefty visual novel is beyond me
400.000 subs in the workshop, seethe chud
>brutally mogged by KR and MD
kek embarrassing
both of those mods have existed since like day 1 of hoi4
The best parts of the mod are ultranationalsts and millitarists.
the best parts of the mod are the ones about development and economy, aka Speer germany, guangdong, hart usa and brazil (to a lesser extent)
Seeing big GDP numbers are nice, but it get stale after a while. Guandong is kino, but after mogging the Komai coup and reforming the police, things get kinda lamey
You spelled Natsoc wrong.
apparently ASHLEY translated a fan comic about guangdong
ashley > agatha (the chinese TWR female dev)
Which one?
this one I guess
https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/16om0gz/off_the_streets_ft_lam_haau_cyun_and_yoshiko/
Chile bros...I kneel
Juicy chilean booty!
Is Albania getting a tree?
albania doesn't exist in tno, it ws annexed by italy in the 30s
at least irl, i assume the same is true in tno
No
Albania will be a separate tag in PW for gameplay purposes, but de iure is annexed into Italy as part of a personal union
Update in a week but I guess we already knew that
Push it back and complete Britain and Poland, please?
They won't
I know people on the team and according to them, even though Ukraine is almost finished Britain is really unfinished and still borderline unplayable.
Apparently only one of its mechanics works and the rest are broken or unusable.
I have no idea how they're planning to release this in a week lmao.
Great fall update TNO.
Are they cutting anything with this update?
They *love* cutting playable full paths while adding absolutely nothing to replace it.
We've had only one brand new full focus tree since November 2020 and like two reworked existing ones and cut several countries.
Is there no Napola schools mechanic for Germany?
They were to be the next generation of Reich civilian and military leaders. One of my great uncles was in the school at Rottweil while my grandfather and his two elder brothers were all fighting in the eastern front.
Have the devs made mention on whether the new patch will be compatible with the patch coming with Arms Against Tyranny? It releases less than two weeks after The Ruin comes out.
Actual dev here
How the frick could we make it compatible with the new features, we don't even have early access to the new release of AAT
Don't they give you guys early access? I swear they do with KR, I thought it'd be like that for TNO as well.
They give early access to EaW, MD and KR afaik.
Possibly OWB aswell as they released a full patch within days of one of the more recent major expansions.
>All the important mods get a pie
>TNO doesn't
Guess Paradox don't like you fellas.
And yeah OWB get early acess, the ERBX dev was even asking them to share the code with him, so he can keep his mod up to date, but it ended in pizza it seems
lmao no, it'll be outdated for an easy two months.
The new systems look like it'll frick absolutely everything up in the mod(and all other major mods).
Wait, wouldn't a Poland update be perfect for this?
>Arms against Tyranny
>Poland, liberated, is up against the victor of World War 2, Germany, and their decisions will determine whether they live or die, or maybe a player led path that leads to them kicking the Germans back maybe?
>maybe a player led path that leads to them kicking the Germans back maybe?
lol
lmao even
moron
Something like England and Wales or Yunnan maybe? Would be fun to see a player led Poland getting something like Yun and fighting to the death for their freedom.
Just think about it logically and you'll se why it is impossible
I mean, it doesn't mean you need to suceed. It could give you a semblance of victory, only to crush you completly, like Ukraine failstate
No easter egg path then? Bummer.
SALUTO AL DUCE, AVANTI ITALIA
Man they better allow Italy to become a new contender in the Cold War with the status of Superpower.
>Man they better allow Italy to become a new contender in the Cold War with the status of Superpower.
Have you been living under a rock? This has been confirmed for ages
I haven't actively read the discord or leaks until the start of the summer.
Love the cameo of Fantauzzi (Muti's successor)
Do other Duces also have successors?
Balbo also has one (Amos Spiazzi)
>They didn't use Muti pilot getup picture as the basis for his ruler portraint
Feels like a wasted opportunity tbh, he looked so cool on it
he has drip I agree, but tbf it's hardly attire for a duce
One week to fully playable and loc’d ukraine
moronic broken economic system from vanilla doesn't scare us. it just makes us laugh at morons like you who can't comprehend actual economic simulation
>reeeeeeee i should just be able to spam factories and shit out guns by switching to total mobilization i shouldn't have to worry about the civilian sector at all even though a good chunk of the game revolves around managing the state of the country up until the war
Go code some stuff instead of sperging in a mongolian anime forum and larping as an economy major, hrt infested discordBlack person
frick off newbie and stop larping
Do we know if Speer will still have his fascist path in the rework? As in the one where he outplays the GO4 and reforms national socialism to be more stable?
yes, newbie-kun
which path is the most similar to current Speer path atm?
I assumes it’s “The New Party Paradigm” or something and there’s
>Speer evil maxxing Poor Hitler his friend betrays him ;_;
>Social Revolutionary larp?????
>Klaus Shwab’s German Economic Forum
>Bormann party concentration reference???
>wolters what even is this path
I can’t tell which one is spposed to be the most Dengist Speer like
They are just different flavors of the same dengist path based on which faction Speer allied. But I guess the most similar is the technocrat subpath.
The bottom tree is the ending and is the same regardless of subpath (bar one focus). Treskow kills Speer's successor > Wolters becomes the new one.
Speer’s successor will always get assassinate by Treskow?
Also who’s Wolters.
Just read about him btw.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Wolters
>By prior arrangement, he and Speer tried to get in touch with each other by telepathy one New Year's Eve—but both men fell asleep before midnight struck.
>Wolters concluded his letter with a suggestion that they avoid seeing each other in future, a suggestion with which Speer concurred.[67] In spite of this, Wolters' wife Erika remained close friends with Margarete Speer, Albert Speer's wife. The two men had Christmas presents delivered to each other every year (Wolters sent Speer a ham, while receiving a pot of honey). Speer admitted that because he had had few friends, the estrangement hurt.[66]
>In 1975, Wolters attempted a reconciliation, sending Speer a letter for his seventieth birthday in March. Speer responded emotionally, pledging to come visit Wolters at the slightest hint. Speer wrote again two months later, telling Wolters that "despite all inherent contradictions, I am very attached to you".[68] Nevertheless, the two men never met again.[68]
>Even in Speer's second book of memoirs, Spandau: The Secret Diaries, Wolters' name is not mentioned, and his hometown is changed; the text refers to him as Speer's "Coburg friend".[69] Speer sent Wolters a copy of the book anyway, though Speer stated that he thought it likely that Wolters would let it sit in his bookcase unread. Wolters responded sarcastically in a letter which he signed, "Duke of Coburg," "I forgive you for not 'localizing' me in the diaries after your modest restraint in [Inside the Third Reich]. The author of the [Chronik], the temporary 'best friend', and the indefatigable contact for Spandau remains nonexistent."
Jesus christ that’s hurt
if youre interested here's some new speer events that were teased some time ago. One of them is about Wolters
I in fact am. Thanks kind xir.
I like the few moment where Speer becomes serious and manipulates his friend to accepting his new position.
God I love him so much hottest nazi man ever.
FRICKING KINO I NEED TO PLAY SPEER
couple more events i found
>Speer’s successor will always get assassinate by Treskow?
Yes, it's literally right there on the tree for fricks sake
pick your fighter
there is only one choice
Speer is just your average resident of Raleigh North Carolina
Suprising they didn't character assassinate Heydrich to be le evil incompetent with secret daddy issues/is gay/ackshually he's a loser because he's a nahtzee
>ambitious
>hated by everyone else
>arrogant
>paranoid
>controlling
bormann is literally me wtf
so Himmler becomes the new potential German leader in exchange for burgundy being removed?
Burgundy isn't removed, it's being reworked to be a ultranat esoteric SS charlemagne state
I consider renaming the country as being removed
It's still called Burgundy though
so himmler is still the leader of burgundy or what?
No, a french dude is (Idk who, maybe De la Maziere). Himmler is in germany leading the SS
>Still no Goering
Are they gonna cut him? God I hope not
No, it's just that there are no plans for him yet
>try to do a Shukshin 2wrw run because bored
>game crashes if Yunnan loses the GAW after Japan intervenes
Who coded this shit?
Guandong Sony path made me actually hate chinks, holy hell. You cave in for their demands and they still frick you shit up. They deserve one thousand years of Komai buck breaking, no doubt