Today might be the last day of the Zodiac Wars. Tomorrow, Khu will begin to reveal Fuecoco2's design motifs and body shape. Take your final stance in this thread. Is the zodiac theory true or not?
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Today might be the last day of the Zodiac Wars.
Zodiac theory will die tomorrow. Kys CCP shills
>implying Zodiac theory is alive
>khu
Lmao
as an ex zodiac believer, they clearly broke the mold here if there was any to begin with. It's not going to have anything to do with zodiac animals.
hoping it will have a body shape similar to krookodile
I think Zodiac Theory was true until they realized they held off on the 3 hooved animals for too long and decided frick it, let's just ditch it so we're not forced to do 3 hooved Fire starters in a row.
Say that like GF gives a shit about that sorta stuff, there's a reason we had 3 fire/fighting starters in a row and multiple dragon pseudo legendaries.
Place your bets, is it a snake or rooster
Imagine coping this hard
Can't be rooster, Torchic already was.
And?. Zodiac animals can repeat. That's not a rule.
>Zodiac animals don’t have to be the same species as the animals
>Zodiac animals don’t have to pick unused animals
Wow what a consistant and clearly human pattern /s
What happens in Gen 13, dear anonymous? Do you think GF will just give up make Pokemon in 12-13 years?
onto the other zodiacs
Western zodiac
Finally get an invertebrate starter with a Fire-type crab.
As a Zodiac Cancer this pleases me
No I do not believe in astrology
Fire croc pokemon.
Is it's not some kind of lizard shaped monster, it won't make sense.
I'm assuming a fire feraligatr.
Fireligator. They finally put the 'o' in his name.
I thought it might be based on the world eating serpent that guards the tree of life.
it'll be a dinosaur you sick fricks
Bull
Horse
It turns into a bull
He changed it's name to zodiac khuller
It's a play on Zodiac Killer because he killed the zodiac theory.
Cyndaquil isn't a rat.
It is
Fennekin is not a dog
Foxes are dogs
Single digit IQ
That would make it grass type, no? Idiot
It’s not a literal tree bro
moron
let the mental gymnastics tournament begins
true, it's a mouse.
And evolve into honey badger
Yeah because Japanese companies have never used rodent-esque animals like hedgehogs to represent the Year of the Rat
Cyndaquil isn't a hedgehog.
it's hedgehog-y
It's almost an exact match for an Echidna, just on fire. If you look at the list of differences between the two animals it matches most of Cyndaquil's non-hedgehog features perfectly.
Yeah, but come on... Echidnas are hedgehog-y
They're distinct species, about as unrelated as two mammals can be. Everything above the red line in pic related is more "hedghog-y" than an Echidna, biologically.
Pokemon isn't a science. They're visually similar, that's enough to say Echidnas are hedgehog-y
>pokemon isn't a science
Tell that to all of the zodiac believers arguing that foxes and dogs are the same thing because they're canines, or insisting that crocs and snakes are both reptiles and therefore fitting for the theory.
Why does GF consider it a mouse then?
>TPC = GF
That's kind of a stretch
GF writes the dex classifications, are you moronic?
It's a mouse pokemon in the games made by gamefreak and in gamefreak's zodiac gift card illustrations
So.
Fuecoco, the Fire Croc Pokemon by the Dex, can't be part of the Zodiac then.
Glad we've ended this needless kerfuffle.
Correct, but whether its evolutions count remains to be seen
The dex could be wrong
Then you have to admit your arguments for Cyndaquil were wrong. You kinda backed yourself into an ideological corner.
No. The dex clearly said that Cyndaquil is a fire mouse. But Fuecoco's might have lost in translation.
Is a fire-mouse the same as the rat that was in the race that decided the Zodiac positions?
Yes.
But the Dex also says all of the Delphox line are foxes but we still have people saying they're dogs.
Foxes are simply beta version of dogs
>mouse is rat
>fox is dog
The sheer amount of autism. Zodiacgays are something else.
Bro your both hyper autistic lmfao.
>it's a mouse in the games made by Gamefreak
No, it's a "mouse" in one potential interpretation of a translation of its dex entry.
A nezumi is a nezumi, yeah
You're right, it's a fire mouse
Yet several of its foreign language names refer to hedgehogs and it's Chinese name is literally "fireball rat"
Zodiac theme is not a theory homosexual. It has been proved right since gen 1 with 8 gens were the fire starter fits perfectly in the zodiac. Cope moron.
Charizard is not a Chinese dragon.
two digit IQ
You know what? You're right. This war must end. Tomorrow will be it. If it's a zodiac beast, I will accept that the zodiac theory is true. If not, I will laugh the frick at all of you. I will make a massive celebration /vp/ has never seen before, it will break the board. Whatever pride you have left, I will turn it into blood and I will spill it everywhere, from /b/ to /misc/. Until then, my stance won't change.
If it’s a zodiac beast nod, you lose. If it isn’t, you don’t win until we see fuecoco3
So which animal do y’all think it’ll become?
I’m betting Ox or Snake
Crocodile
Khu will drop another cryptic image and we wil know nothing new
Frick that
How do we shut him down before he can ruin the speculation?
I want to report that fricker to the police
Showing Fuecoco with an apple in the intro despite his shape makes me thing redoing the Applin line idea with him might be what's happening and we end up getting another dragon or Ox
It's more like another smugleaf scenario.
Either a fire dragon or some kind of Ox then
In some ilustrations the snake in the eden garden has legs ( adam and eve and apples and that shit)
It's an orange.
>Khu
what a c**t
Zodiacgays before btfo'ed
>Cyndaquil is a rat! Fennekin is a dog! Charmander is a chinese dragon! Litten is a tiger!
Zodiacgays after btfo'ed
>Fuecoco is a cro... no... an... an... ox!!!! HAHAHAHA YOU LOSE!!
It looks like a Croc to me, I doubt any fire starters change what they look like besides the original 2 starters, Charmander was just a lizard, not a winged dragon and Cyndaquil being a rat turned badger.
So I'm just assuming Feucoco is going to stay a croc, or they could simply do what Snivy did and just make it lose it's legs to be a snake
>or they could simply do what Snivy did and just make it lose it's legs to be a snake
Difference is Snivy was always labeled as a snake (Grass Snake Pokemon) and has incredibly tiny arms and legs that make sense to be lost on evolution, Fuecoco on the other hand is explicitly called a crocodile and has robust, fully functional arms and legs.
So what type will it become?
I’m betting fire/dragon
my comment was my own speculation, i don't care about Khu
What do you mean? The Zodiac thing is already over. Cyndaquil isn't a rat, and Fennekin isn't a dog.
how can anyone be this much of a fricking idiot? i gucking hate khu and his puppy fetish and his need for attention but he clearly is an insider. he litterally posted the entire pla dex. denying facts is typical of /vp/ anons but fricking hell you're stupid. legitimately end your fricking life. commit suicide. have a nice day
Khu wiener must taste delicious if you're defending him this hard
Yeah, I'm sure he just got lucky when he said the box legends would be Dragon/Fighting and Dragon/Electric and themed around being mounts.
Literally not a counter argument at all. That anon probably a wienersucker, but you ain't better either.
Name how many sides a triangle has without looking like either a dumbass or an embarrassingly devoted triangle stan, bet you can't
We already know it's a wieneratrice after someone found the image from his teaser. He still has his polls to answer, but it's not hard to imagine how the line will turn out.
>I have proof everyone
post it
Could be some kinda serpent dragon thing like aztec /inca motiff. The spanish helped wipeout them out afterall.
🙂
>Crocodile is also a zodiac member
>but from other cultures' zodiac
Oh I see. Okay, count me as a newest member of the zodiac army. Actually I'm fine with the zodiac theory, as long as it is not related to the chingchongs. Zodiac Lives. Long Live Zodiac
name one animal that would make zodiacgays admit it was over. you always have an answer for everything to explain why you can never be wrong
i think it's over if fuecoco doesn't evolve into quetzalcoatl
It’s gonna both follow the theory & go against it.
It’s either: gonna end up w/ a crocodile knight with feathered plum & its color scheme actually refers to the Spanish Coat of Arms. The snake will be a ghost of Fuecoco’s ancestor that hangs around it like a stand, referencing the Serpent of Eden. Fuecoco is Catholic.
Or: it stays a Croc but it’s face takes on properties of those extinct crocodiles that had hornlike protrusions. That makes it the “bull” to quaxly’s matador & sprigatito’s flamenco dancer.
Both allow for the theory but make it less limiting to what the Pokémon can be, as they’d just be secondary references while it primarily stays a croc.
>fuecoco evolves
>gains horn stubs and loses arms
>evolves again
>giant bull horns and long serpentine body
So you're saying you want it to be a Bullet Train?
Frick yeah
So an Ophiotaurus?
>horned serpents were important monsters in Mexican Indian myths
>Koraidon is Native American
It's all coming together
>game based on spanish elements
>AHA! I KNOW! MEXICAN INFLUENCE!
Imagine living with single digit IQ
>game based on Spanish elements
>one of the cover legendaries is based on North American themes
>starters must be inspired by the nation the gen is inspired by
Okay anon
Copperajah is obviously based on Indian elephants and Indian culture despite debuting in the game based on Britain. Not every Pokemon needs to tie into the region's basis and even if they did two countries with a strong historical relationship to each other like Britain and India or Spain and Mexico are an obvious fit you pseud moron.
We are talking about starter mons, not npc shitmons like Copajeetajah.
Greninja is a fricking ninja.
Again, I said starters, not shitmons
Cope.
Seethe.
Copperajah is based on artifacts that Britain was stealing from India. Those elephant figures i don't know how they called in english.
Yes, the starters must evolve in relation to the culture the region it set in. Like the hokkiadan french emperors and new yorker demon pigs and samurai.
wieneratrice named Crocatrice
Dinosaur + crocodile + bird as a reference to crocodiles and birds being the closest living relatives to dinosaurs and each other. Fat dino body shape, crocodile head, chicken comb made of fiery energy. Ghost type because wieneratrices have that death stare ability.
>+ bird
na that bird shits dead
Here's the real question; for both sides of the argument;
While there are a lot of stretches to make the Zodiac theory work, let's say just for shits Fuecoco's last form is serpentine, like no doubt it looks like a snake, and they pull the same with how they did Serperior (having very tiny arms)- would you consider the Zodiac theory true, or are you deadset against it no matter what, even if some creative liberties have been taken? (Fennekin being the dog and Cyndaquil being a rat)
Personally, I don't care one way or the other, but if it is unquestionabley long and snake-like I would say that cements the idea they were going for, even though back in '96 they 1000000% weren't intending on it.
Bro I never gave a shit either, but if a small croc somehow becomes a long boy snake I'm all fricking in on my tombstone.
To summarize:
Owls are bats.
Lizardz are snakes.
Crocodiles are oxen.
>implying owls are birds
worse yet, implying bats are birds lmao
Owls are actually anchors.
I BELIEVE
It's based on Coco so it's a shapeshifter, but when it's represented in festivals it's typically a derpy lizard looking thing.
I think it'll be a long ghost pepper version of coco.
The war won't end, people will be interpreting it as a snake even if it's a long lizard.
>people will be interpreting it as a snake even if it's a long lizard
Is Serperior a snake or no? This is a legit question.
If zodiac wars didn't end in gen fricking two, and then gen six, and then gen seven. Why would it end now? These people are absolutely moronic and will force fuecoco into their autistic scheme no matter what shape it is.
Ophiotaurus is a creature from Greek mythology. It described as part bull and part serpent, its entrails were said to grant the power to defeat the gods to whoever burned them.
It doesn't make sense though. Even a literal serpent would make more sense as it's evolved form than a fricking bullsnek.
Just out of curiosity, which zodiac animals are still missing?
Snake, goat, ox, horse
Zodiac has been dead since Fennekin. This is just extended damage control,
Allineightor.
NEWS WHEN
PUpPy tImE
>Charmander isn't a Chinese dragon at any stage of evolution
>Cyndaquil goes from echidna/anteater/porcupine to weasel to wolverine yet is somehow a "mouse" because apparently the Pokédex is word of god
Zodiachomosexualry was dead before it ever began lol
If you use their own logic against them, no matter what Fuecoco kills it since the Dex lists it as the Fire Croc
>The words crocodile and snake are used interchangeably in a few lines in the bible
>’serpent’ is sometimes used to refer to all reptiles in archaic writing
>the wieneratrice/basilisk is called king of the serpents
Zodiacchads win again
>The words crocodile and snake are used interchangeably in a few lines in the bible
[Citations needed]
https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/13562/why-was-crocodile-%D7%AA%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%9F-from-exodus-710-translated-as-snake-or-serpent
https://www.ancient-hebrew.org/definition/crocodile.htm
No, not like that. I mean, you should find another citation. One that agrees with me lol.
>Khu posta a cryptic post about Sudowoodo
This guy really doesn't care and loves to change the subject
It died back in gen 2 for anyone who doesn't reach to the max.
we already have a snake though?
Where's the fuecoco evo info?
>zodiac theorists spend montus saying Fuecoco must be a snake because that was the closest thing that hadn't been used
>already preparing to cope with their loss by saying it can repeat the Rooster
>never thought at any point before to just say that the giant fire breathing reptile was a dragon
If it could always repeat, why jump through hoops to guess anything else?
I'll answer for you: it's because that wasn't the theory until you saw no other way out.
ummm, khubros???? Where's the reveal????!
Khu said it's a wieneratrice.
So. Zodiacbros we won again, wieneratrice are made of snakes, dragons and rooster, all 3 zodiacmons.
Yep. GF basically doubled down with Fuecoco.
See you in the next trailer denialcuck
Why is there so much defense for zodiac theory? Seems suspicious that the argument stretches the furthest to prove itself right. Sure, if you squint at Typhlosion, then its a giant rat, but shouldn't have there been a point where its less of a law and more of a coincidence?
>CAPTCHA: KARP8
Khu is so fricking slow. I know we could just not have this info, but when you promise info you drop the damn info.