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https://www.totalwar.com/blog/message-from-total-war-leadership-dec-2023/
Usually not big on the Total War games and haven't been keeping up with this one. But this is a decision I can respect. I know this didn't come lightly for them.
This is just damage control. It was this or be silent and continue to antagonize a dwindling fanbase and never recoup your losses.
that's pretty cool tbh. maybe they can pull company around and have a redemption arc. might even check Pharoah out in a few weeks once they've adjust the price and content etc.
They are only spinning it like this because they are dropping all the DLC for the game, it sold poorly.
Don't fall for CAs manipulation. A simple letter and appropriately pricing a game they dropped support for doesn't fix a decade of shit.
weres hyenas you cowards
joined the -ACK
Gone, they got a tax write off for the whole project. Legally speaking they aren't allowed to release the game anymore.
You can blame the UK studio heads for this. This was originally planned to be DLC but since the UK corpos fricked up with Hyenas they forced other studios to change plans and rush. Anglos are greedy and stupid.
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Too little, too late. Hope the whole thing burns to the ground.
so what happened now?
tl;dr for the apology
>please don't leave, you're our last customer base
>Pharaoh users partially refunded because they're lowering base price
>Shadows of Change (the infamous bomb dlc) is getting additional content in ~2 months time
>Thrones of Decay delayed by ~4 months time
Is it better or worse than that other guy who didn't apologize for the troony who said "you have no right to complain"?
Who could've possibly seen this coming?
What are you talking about?
Forum Drama. After shadows of change and Pharoah people started complaining on the steam forum and review dunking. Community Managers did not handle the Flashpoint well.
pharaoh will probably get some updates and patches and then it will most likely die, like thrones of britannia. so it is more or less confirmed to be dead.
all their plans for dlcs are cancelled, this is why they removed the deluxe and dynasty edition as well.
Translation: we pissed off the Warhammer fruits and our sales figures have been noticeably negatively impacted and Sega came calling.
It's time for a last resort.
chuds won
Please CA make a proper historical game and not a fantasy game masquerading as one like Three Kingdoms and Troy with OP single entity generals or glorified SAGA games sold at full price like Pharaoh.
>We begrudgingly admit we fleeced you tehe
>We also lowered Pharaohs price to pay back only half of what we tricked into paying
>We only giving you money back because it's cheaper than our DLC commitments
>We will also stop giving absolute minimum effort into our DLC slop for Warhammer
There is little remorse in this letter and even less in their actions.
It's like a israeli apology.
Why didn't they just do Bronze age centric Total War?
They literally plan to combine Troy and Pharaoh into one campaign like with Warham.
Proof?
Actually bother to read?
Nothing states they're adding Troy into Pharaoh. You dumbass.
>One plan that we’ve always had since the early stages of development on PHARAOH is to expand the size of our campaign map as a free update, and to introduce even more factions and cultures to the game
Ok moron.
It will backfire becasue most people own Troy on EGS, so they expect people to doubledip on Steam.
pharaoh still isn't worth the new price btw lol
Worth a pirate ?
If you played Troy, you played Pharaoh.
They also announced an update which expands the map, so expect ME if you own Troy.
They basically just confirmed what everyone expected already. People knew this from data mining and confirmation that Pharoah was originally DLC.
If they stick to what they said about better value in DLCs, then I'll have what I wanted from them. They're eating a whole lot more humble pie than I expected, which is promising, it's the studios that keep on saying everyone else is wrong that usually end up shitting out for good.
Creative Assembly confuses me. Do they like their customers, do they hate their customers, are they indifferent about customers. They need to make a decision and stick with it.
They hate their customers, but their customers finally stopped being mindless paypigs so now they're doing damage control.
They treat their customers like cattle and now finally finding out after decade of fricking around. Currently they are trying to make the shitstorm go away with conceding as little ground as they can
We have it right from the mouth of a former project lead that worked there (he now works on PoE 2) that there is a culture of contempt and disregard for the consumer at Creative Assembly.
Honestly this shit has been a long time coming, it's just Warhammer was an unexpected (even for them) smash hit because warhammer fans are desperate and used to abuse (they'll admit it). So that propped them up at least almost a decade. But somehow they still managed to completely frick themselves it's pretty spectacular. For a few months it was just PR clusterfrick after Clusterfrick. This is possibly the worst year I've ever seen them have between Hyenas and the ghost town launch of Pharoah.
Source on the article?
>Usually not big on the Total War games and haven't been keeping up with this one. But this is a decision I can respect. I know this didn't come lightly for them.
Honestly that's exactly what I imagine people who make comments like that look like.
too little too late
When is Sega just closing this studio? I thought that already happened to be honest.
What's the best total war game for me to try. I don't give a frick about age or "clunkyness"
Shogun 2.
>I don't give a frick about age or "clunkyness"
You think you don't, but you do. Medieval 2 or Rome 1, despite being the best examples of the franchise, have a clunkyness to their controls that you will really fricking feel if you're used to the way the new games control.
Anything made past Shogun 2 is a shamefur dispray.
The shogun trilogy: Shogun 1, Shogun 2, FOTS
m2tw is my go to. anything from rome 1 to rome 2 is breddy gud though
Creative Assembly is a dead studio walking. Only a matter of time now.
Who the frick is playing Pharaoh anyway?
Game is probably more dead than Thrones of Britannia
CA could turn this all around by making a full effort Medieval 3 that's extensible, moddable, and so on. No bullshit bronze age nonsense that doesn't have enough scope, no 3 Kingdoms shit where all the names are indistinguishable, just make the biggest and best fricking Medieval 3 you can and support it long term. It's so so obvious. Fellas love medieval warfare simple as
I know about all the things that CA has done but how is Pharaoh?
nobody knows because nobody played it
I still don't get it. Why should I play a game about fricking egypt? Who the frick cares about egypt?
a) lol
b) lmao
c) frick total war, play a real wargame if you want to enjoy ancient/medi war. TW is super fricking stupid - just look at the casualties per battle and see how incongruent the system is with the battles it pretends to emulate.
Damn black people could at least buy the game since they rewrote history for them. Ungrateful little nigs finally got to be kangz and shiet like they always wanted.
qrd just in case there are people that don't understand why this is happening
>CA releases Pharaoh, a reskin of Troy, and sells it for $60
>believing they cannot fail CA also sells a super duper $100 GOTY pack that promises 3 DLC expansions
>customers finally tell CA to frick off, game flops, only a few hundred players remain after a couple of weeks
>CA gets ready to do what they always do when a game doesn't make them a million dollars a week and gets ready to kill it
>SEGA lawyers say frick no, you sold people DLC that you haven't made yet
>CA runs a cost analysis of making the DLC and selling it to absolutely no one vs offering refunds and putting a bag over the head of Pharaoh
>the refund route was cheaper in the long run
This isn't a company being charitable or giving a shit about its customers. It's trying to avoid a legal shitstorm that they themselves created out of their own hubris.
That's extremely depressing and absolutely fricking hilarious. They are paying people to cancel their own flop. Pure necktar.
>>the refund route was cheaper in the long run
This is 100% what has happened. It might be a grim view of things but CA has done absolutely fricking NOTHING to prove otherwise. In fact they've done the opposite by keeping Rob Bartholomew employed as his name is in the latest blog post.
>People were sick and tired of the shitty ass lazy DLC formula
>People learned but CA didn't
Let them die in a whimper
Not a bad move. For others nothing will satisfy them except for the complete destruction of the studio. I think this will give those who care about non-warhammer total war to give it a chance since the company has redeemed itself a bit.