injecting has always been cringe and obscenely easy to detect.
just spend 1 second actually catching the mon and then modifying it, genuinely cannot be detected whatsoever.
The sort of person with the time and resources to play Pokémon or MtG or Yugioh competitively (anything with an eSports scene that is largely self-sponser) 100 to 1 comes from a very privileged background.
AKA, outside of the competition itself, they skew wealthy but moronic.
yugioh doesn't cost very much money to play at all, and used to be relatively simple, now it's gotten far more complex, but if you have base knowledge from playing past tournament play it's easy to pick back up.
When most people talk about being able to "play" a card game they imply it's with friends that won't be snarky b***hes about power levels and everyone keeps things around the same price point. You know, like Pokemon and Magic the Gathering easily allow, because they're resource based games.
Played yugioh for 18 years lol. Been playing since March 2005. Got Steined at 9 at a local and kept playing lmao. You're objectively wrong. From August of last year til January of this past year the best deck was 200 dollars max, and this was a tier 0 deck, probably the best deck ever released, tearlament.
Kashtira was expensive for a brief period, but you're objectively wrong. Yugioh hasn't been expensive since 2008, and the last "expensive" format was 2013 Nats format, with Dragon Ruler and Spellbook, everything is cheap.
Tell me you've never fricking played the game without telling me you homosexual fricking moron.
Idc about the morality of genning I just find it really fricking funny that you would spend literal thousands to get DQ'd in pools for not spending $30 more for a used copy and not worrying about shit like this
>pkhexsisters we got too wienery….
more like people unable to use a computer got too wienery
pkhex literally is the best way to check legality of your mon.
If they didn't use illegal mons before, yes they earned it
This is why they need to bring back Powersaves. There needs to be an easier in game method than shoving Pokémon in a daycare to hatch shit with perfect 1s and 0s
you can literally just give monsters mints, use ability caps or patches, hyper train, use mirror herb, TMs are renewable. there's so much QoL to making competitive sets and teams compared to earlier titles makes it laughable that people can't just take the time to make their own legit teams or trade for even. If the game isn't fun, drop it.
If you're going to hack, can't you just hack a dozen of these items into your game instead of hacking the Pokemon directly? Surely that can't be detected?
Yes but injecting is so deeply rooted in the culture and a lot of these people don’t care about Pokemon outside the comp events, some of them legit have zero clue how the game works outside pvp battles
That would be the 3 digit IQ move. Having a mon with 6 perfect IVs in a game without RNG manipulation is a lottery chance, and idiots run teams with six of them. However, if you have shit IVs but hyper-trained, nobody would question it.
These comp players don't play Pokemon outside of competitions, they only play Showdown. They don't know or care about mints, bottle caps, etc. because they don't actually play the games. They gen everything and risk bans because they don't know or care to learn to make teams in-game because they don't want to play the game, they just want to e-sports.
If you're going to hack, can't you just hack a dozen of these items into your game instead of hacking the Pokemon directly? Surely that can't be detected?
That would be the 3 digit IQ move. Having a mon with 6 perfect IVs in a game without RNG manipulation is a lottery chance, and idiots run teams with six of them. However, if you have shit IVs but hyper-trained, nobody would question it.
These posts have it right. If you hack in the inventory limit of consumables that allow you to max out your pokemon plus TMs, then you'll be fine, they don't check your save for shit like that.
>competent hack checks
99% this was a HOME Tracker issue; most traders (bots, paid, etc.) leave the HOME tracker blank because every Pokemon is assigned a UNIQUE tracking number when it is uploaded; you cannot spoof it, and any trader Switch has CFW and isn't connecting to HOME to get one. You CAN still use these "illegal" Pokemon in SV with no issue, and can even trade them 'locally'.
So if the VGC looks at a pokemon that DOESN'T exist in SV (coming from PLA, SwSh, etc.) and it DOESN'T have a Home tracker, it is obviously illegitimate, as you need to send it through HOME to get it on your game.
The fix is braindead simple: upload the Pokemon before using it. That he is so fricking stupid to not know this, and not upload/download his mons once, earns him this DQ.
The other 1% is that it was given a fake HOME tracker, which would immediately be rejected by the server for not matching the data assigned to that tracking number.
The other 1% is that it was given a fake HOME tracker, which would immediately be rejected by the server for not matching the data assigned to that tracking number.
That's one of the few things I've heard that actually impresses me a bit. I remember when the G8 (7?) offical mon hack checker was leaked along with all that other stuff and how pathetic it was. If a Home check is that unique and easy, they finally got something good going. At least for ones that need to touch Home.
Tardlet here.Does this work for mons genned in SV that arent native? So if you gen in a Cresselia to SV, and upload it to Home, will it have the proper check even though its not technically from whatever correct origin game?
But if it has an Origin mark of, lets say BDSP, but was Gen'd into SV (naturally missing the Home check), then uploaded into Home, it should be fine after, as
gamefreak has been generous enough to do this, yes.
If it has an origin mark of BDSP then the catch location has to be one of the routes it roams in BDSP, it has to have the level it has in BDSP, has to be caught with an available ball in BDSP, and has to have at least 3 perfect IVs.
If it has an origin mark of BDSP then the catch location has to be one of the routes it roams in BDSP, it has to have the level it has in BDSP, has to be caught with an available ball in BDSP, and has to have at least 3 perfect IVs.
Both incorrect. It needs to follow the correct route of transfer: BDSP -> HOME -> SV
If you are going to send something in SV that supposedly has data showing it originates from BDSP, but it has never been in HOME and thus doesn't have a tracker, you are setting that up for a flag, because it's impossible for it to have gotten to SV otherwise.
So in other words, a Gen'd Cresselia into SV is always wrong, it has to be Gen'd into BDSP first?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Exactly
9 months ago
Anonymous
It's possible, but I don't think the Home checks run that deep. Maybe someday. If there is expectation that Cresselia will be available in SV DLC, then such a check would need to be removed. Do you really see GameFreak creating and then removing temporary checks?
If you can bring it into Home, I'd say it's fine.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Home tracking keeps track of origin game and the like. If a Pokémon that has an origin game as “SV”, but isn’t in SV, then it’s flagged.
It’s why all these VGC players are getting caught, either the home tracker doesn’t exist or it’s invalid.
given that these are legendaries and don't have egg moves and shit, how could you even frick up pkhexing a traded one?
did he actually just fricking change the nature/IVs directly instead of making it hyper trained/minted?
I am not a competitivegay or maybe I’m just dumb, but I don’t understand why anyone would need to hack a Pokémon.
In the current games it takes literally seconds to maximize IVs, change nature or teach egg moves to any Pokémon you own.
What is left for someone to hack?
I am not a coomer or maybe I'm just dumb, but I don't understand why anyone would need to pay for porn. In the current internet it takes literally one fraction of a second to type in "big boob blonde milf porn" and find 1,000,000 results. Why would anyone give money to streamers?
Sometimes having max iv's is not what you want. Some strategies require you to do the opposite, like a trickroom team. I'm not sure why you need hyper specific IVs on a Lando and an Urshifu tho.
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These people probably are too dumb to realize that most legendaries caught now have 3 guaranteed perfect IVs. I'd bet they dropped the IV spread to a point where there weren't 3.
given that these are legendaries and don't have egg moves and shit, how could you even frick up pkhexing a traded one?
did he actually just fricking change the nature/IVs directly instead of making it hyper trained/minted?
Fricking lmao what did he expect to happen
Oh, well this is simpler. The HOME Tracker keeps track of all your immutable stats like IVs. So yeah, if he fricked with them, easy find.
One of their dicksuckers do it for them, horribly.
A good hack should never be detected. It's not even that hard to check verify your genned mon in the first place.
>PLA is the only way to get a Landorus >thinks you need to have your cartridge to transfer to and from home
These people don't play the game, they had it coming to them
Also, any info on what kind of new check they did?
HOME tracks all your immutable stats, IVs being one of them. If he edited the IVs, they simply compared the state of his game's pokemon to what was registered on HOME, saw the IVs/nature/whatever were changed (which is impossible, HT and Mints are a flag) and it's painfully obvious.
The way to do this right is hack Urshifu on Sword/Shield upload it on Home and Home will track whatever you did. The fact that he didn't have Sword/Shield shows he didn't take this seriously enough.
The problem with this idiot, is that he didn't own PLA and didn't have access to his SwSh cart. It has to go to HOME to get to SV.
But you could just blank the tracker, and reroll your EC/PID, and reupload it to get a new tracker. This guy didn't, and blew his chance for being the laziest of lazy players.
The games aren't even expensive when bought used I got PLA for like 10 bucks, but this moron is gonna moron. He has money to fly to japan but not enough money to buy the game used?
tl;dr this dumbass is almost as moronic as gamefrick
the home tracker is about as secure as a master lock when it comes to stopping injecting
it only keeps the animals out
>it only keeps the animals out
This is unironically the actual reason why the PKHex creator gets so mad about people abusing it, you don't think he knows what most people do with it?
Imagine making illegal mons and being SO, SO moronic you'd use them in an official format and not even bother to at least make them look legit under the scope. I'd get pissed off at the morons too.
its because people find the battle system *itself* fun.
That's why shit like showdown exists, and why people inject. They don't give a single shit about the gameplay beyond battling.
They don't care about the world, the mon designs (there's a reason why compgays discuss mons solely in terms of stats and strategy), the graphics, the animations, the sounds, anything. All they like is the battle system, as though it were a standalone game itself. Its less like FF/SMT/whatever and more like games like chess.
And I don't have a problem with that.
But gamefrick just doesn't get it. If they had something like showdown, that's all compgays would ever use.
Pokemon could just be slightly different pictures of rocks as long as they have different stats, types, moves, and abilities as far as competitive battling is concerned.
Bro, everyone fricking gens in this game. If the Pokémon is legal in terms of stats and moves, it shouldn't be banned.
So what happens to the player that lost to cheaters?
More or less. The reality is, genning Pokemon is super easy, yet people still frick it up.
The VGC's position may as well be "cheat, but don't make it stupid obvious".
I don't quite understand. You can't edit your pokes if they touched Home before? Can't you just hack them into SV first, then validate them through Home?
If the Pokemon isn't native to SV, it *HAS* to go through HOME to be legal.
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HOME tracks all your immutable stats, IVs being one of them. If he edited the IVs, they simply compared the state of his game's pokemon to what was registered on HOME, saw the IVs/nature/whatever were changed (which is impossible, HT and Mints are a flag) and it's painfully obvious.
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The problem with this idiot, is that he didn't own PLA and didn't have access to his SwSh cart. It has to go to HOME to get to SV.
But you could just blank the tracker, and reroll your EC/PID, and reupload it to get a new tracker. This guy didn't, and blew his chance for being the laziest of lazy players.
Home added a few extra steps to make pokemon legal in pkhex. The problem is these vgc players are fat and lazy, and just repeat what they've done for years without doing even a hint of research
it just keeps happening
how is spending 1 minute of effort making it not blatantly hacked too hard of a task for these tards
frick's sake you only have six fricking mons on a team
I assume it will be a mix of that and them finally looking closely at certain Pokemon, squeezing their brains to scrutinize any "mysteriously natural 6IV"
>b-b-b-but it is not impossible to roll one like that!
Yeah but the ones caught in the DQ are probably the ones that went full moron and didn't cover their bases properly
>Buy SwSh/BDSP >Trade a mon to a Discord bot to get your SID >Use an RNG manip tool and your TID/SID to find the perfect mon >Catch it
I'm a fricking braindead mouthbreather and even I can get nearly any Pokémon with perfect stats in less than an hour
I love this. They have made it so insanely easy to get competitive Pokemon at this point, even with 0 speed and attack IVs it can be done in a matter of hours, and if you just want 6IV perfect mon you can literally grab it in the wild and bottle cap it. These lazy frickers deserve to be permanently banned, I couldn't give less of a shit about how it's competitively the same, it's against the rules and that's what they signed up for.
>Doing five tera raids cannot give you enough shards to change a mon,
No, but only a few more than that.
Also there's an event going on right now that shits out Tera Shards like it had some spoiled Taco Bell, so if you want to grind efficiently then get to it
You can literally buy bottle caps from shops.
The only things you can't buy in terms of training are 0 Attack and Speed IVs, and Tera Shards. The former is something that's addressed in the Teal Mask with mochi, and I'd bet the latter will get a shop too in Indigo Disk.
But we already have an "IV editor". The best we'll get is a rusty bottle cap that emulates an IV stat to 0, but I doubt Gay Freak sees the use of it and would rather have people hack.
9 months ago
Anonymous
they will hack anyway and you know it
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah I was talking of IV nullification specifcally here. Bottle caps rn maximise IVs
9 months ago
Anonymous
You expect people that can't be bothered with regular bottlecaps to use one that lowers IVs?
What. The frick?
Why add even more EV training items? Vitamins and feathers were fine, and there were specific bands for training specific stats. What needed adjusting were IVs.
Sword and Shield did the same thing and it was generally received positively.
Personally I like it, grinding for EV reset berries is a pain. The +1 EV in particular stat is probably just to flesh out the setting a bit, like how they have stuff like gateau even though full heals exist and are way easier to obtain.
>Takes a DLC to do the same shit SwSh did post-game
Man Gamefreak really is wringing as much as they can out of people that take the games seriously aren't they.
What. The frick?
Why add even more EV training items? Vitamins and feathers were fine, and there were specific bands for training specific stats. What needed adjusting were IVs.
Having used genned mons in the past at big tournaments and gotten away with it I can guarantee that the only reason he got caught was because he was a moron with how he genned them
The most damning thing about this is the fact that this guy runs a Youtube channel dedicated to VGC training, so this is a bit of an image wrecker
I traded a Stantler from SV into PLA and evolved it into Wyrdeer
Is it supposed to show as illegal or do I need to check something on Wyrdeer?
It says something about a location data?
This only happened to when I transferred a Mon from SV into PLA and then evolved it into it's PLA form/Evo and sent it back into SV
Sending a PLA Mon into SV doesn't flag it at all though
>Game Freak have shit hack checking, but do it anyway >Get mad when they actually do something half decently for once and it works as intended
It was always going to happen at some point, you were just too stupid to see the writing on the wall. There are many Pokémon that can only come from Home, and so having those without the Home Tracker is absolutely braindead
>Pokemon hack checks were always historically bad, allowing blatantly hacked shit through with no problem >For the first time ever, they're checking for something specific that has never been checked before >"I-I-It was always going to happen, you're just stupid!!"
You can stop pretending like this was always going to happen, there was no precedent. People know what to look for now, so competent hackers will just take that in to account now.
No one had any idea of any tracking ID nonsense before this tournament
This is the first ever tourney with Home transfer Pokemon allowed
People will take note for the next season
Its something that has 0 impact on Pokemon’s battle performance, of course people are pissed
The problem is Japan and their autistic software modification laws
Are they genuinely moronic? Everyone who knows about genning in gen 9 knows this shit. Hell anyone who knows about genning in gen 8 knows this shit.
Most VGC players never bothered downloading Home, they just gen straight from the discord bots
Most also never played Legends or BDSP and no one’s paying $120+Home subscribtion for 1-2 mons
Didn't Gen 8 allow anything with a Battle Ready mark?
I dont think there is such a thing in SV, your Pokemon gets auto cleaned off the old moves during the transfer
And everything to do with being against the rules of the tourney. If they weren't utter morons, they'd be nice and legal, if not legit but they thought they could just ungabunga it because they didn't get stopped before spending all that money to fly to Japan to get fricked out for failing to follow the TOS of the tournament.
What happens if you take a Battle Ready Mark Pokémon into SV? Does it keep the mark or does it just go away because of SV removing moves automatically?
Home Tracking ID is a big thing with making legal Gen 8 and now Gen 9 Pokémon. It is stated to not touch said ID and leave it blank, then upload it to Home. The problem was that the idiot made Urshifu in SV instead of buying a used copy of Sword and Shield and doing the hack there.
I rarely check /vp/ and I don't follow any competitive Pokemon stuff(only seen that one "Pokemon comp used to be p2w" or whatever the video was called), but is this some kind of cheating scandal?
>fedecampo made it to day 2 of worlds even after the hack check took out one of his mons
I don't think people understand that genning isn't an immediate patch to a lack of skill
Please
Please
Please
Honestly I didn't even mind hacked pokemon just for use on your own
Bust jesus h CHRIST
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NO ONE WANTS TO GET IMPOSSIBLE VERY CLEARLY HACKED POKEMON CALLED ZACIAN.NET OR MACHAMPS.ORG OR WHATEVER Black person SITES YOU Black folk ARE USING NOW
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I hope all the gays doing this shit get banned and sued to oblivion, face the same sort of fate that Gary Bowser guy did.
>surprise trade until i get a hacked mon (usually very quickly) >take the item off of it (normally a master ball/ability patch) >release the mon >repeat
I help clean up the pool and get to farm items while doing it
Why do people feel the need to cheat in a world where nature mints exist, hyper training exists, and event exclusive moves no longer exist? Literally anyone can get these mons in their tip-top maximum potential shape, there's no excuse anymore. You normies literally removed all the autism and you're still cheating us for no reason.
We have right now Blissey Tera Shard piñatas in the event dens and this is the THIRD time they have run them (with another rerun scheduled already). Literally no excuse for anyone to say "Tera shard farm takes ages ;_;"
Wait is Wolfey shitting on this dude for using genned mons?
Is that bastard really going for the "holier than thou" shit WHEN HE IS USING GENNED MONS HIMSELF FOR YEARS AND FOR ALMOST EVERY TOURNAMENT HE PARTICIPATED IN? That's frickin rich
Depends on how well it's implemented. The checker may keep track of the species, and thus may notice that an Ursaluna was generated pre-DLC in SV, rather than in PLA. If that's the case, you can't do much to circumvent it
I highly doubt it works that way. If someone had an old Teddiursa/Ursaring sitting in storage, and decided to evolve in PLA, they are free to do that.
I meant the SV DLC hasn't released yet, so the Peat Block, despite being programmed into SV, is only available in PLA at present
Evolution date is not data that gets recorded. The only ways such an Ursaluna would be flagged would be if it was caught as Ursaluna, because it's not possible to catch Ursaluna in the wild, or if for example it was supposedly caught in PLA with a ball that doesn't exist there. Genners are stupid and don't think that far ahead, like that dumbass years ago who decided they would enter Gen 6 competitive with a Dream Ball Aegislash. Anyone who actually plays the games should easily know what combinations are and are not possible.
It's a secondary check that takes note and permanently registers how the Pokemon was upon first contact to servers. If anything that cannot be modified is modified (like IVs, ball, catch location, etc) and compared against that initial snapshot, it will flag.
It would be in the best interest for everyone if this hack check was done BEFORE getting invites to worlds. Pokemon needs to make a team checker you can do in-game, and if your pokemon can pass that you're good to go.
You act like these people are innocent. They are not, especially compared to someone who actually plays the games and would be more deserving of their place.
Not him but I'd immensely prefer non-cheaters to be qualified to the event, instead of cheaters wasting a spot
If you have a 6IV Ditto the chance is literally less than 1/100 to breed one, get over yourself.
>And that contradicts exactly what they were just saying, about them being lottery odds.
Which doesn't bring anything to the argument in the first place
Actual odds are meaningless as long as they're not 0
Lottery odds are not literal impossible odds, now you're just being a defeatist. It takes one afternoon to breed a 6IV team, another to train them all up, stop being such a baby in this toddler game.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I am literally saying that you can't dispute the legality of a team no matter how small the odds are
You act like these people are innocent. They are not, especially compared to someone who actually plays the games and would be more deserving of their place.
It would benefit literally everyone if you could get your team checked and registered before traveling to an event, there's not really any debate here.
You're exclusively looking at this through a "cheater bad" lens, to the point you don't even see how incredibly helpful this would be to legitimate players. Very childish behavior.
Legitimate players aren't affected by this at all.
9 months ago
Anonymous
how does a legit player not know if the mons he got himself are legit?
trading
9 months ago
Anonymous
if you think your trade bot or anyone giving you all the hard to find mons you want for free is a legit source you are moronic and deserve to be banned as much as someone doing it knowingly
9 months ago
Anonymous
So it seems you don't have to inject to be affected
9 months ago
Anonymous
Trade bots can do an uploaded pkhex file with the right encounter flags, that's how I got my "legit" 5IV trick room indeedee-f for a regional in series 2
9 months ago
Anonymous
Trading what? You mean Wonder Trading? That's the only possible way a legitimate player could be affected by this.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Are you genuinely stupid? How would it *not* be helpful for legitimate players to be able to pre-register their teams before going to an event?
how does a legit player not know if the mons he got himself are legit?
It literally doesn't matter if you know your Pokemon are legit or not, why do you think they run hack checks in the first place?
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Are you genuinely stupid? How would it *not* be helpful for legitimate players to be able to pre-register their teams before going to an event?
Legitimate players know what is legitimate. If you cut corners and have people trading you Pokemon for your competitive team, you should at least be capable of doing the bare minimum research of whether or not it is legit.
More funny to expose cheaters on a public scene.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Legitimate players know what is legitimate.
Cool, that means literally nothing because you will get hack checked anyways, so why not get that shit over with ahead of the event instead of during it?
9 months ago
Anonymous
It means you know nothing. Use your own Pokemon loser.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Keep seething.
Actual room temperature IQ
9 months ago
Anonymous
Thanks for capitulating to my request.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Keep seething.
9 months ago
Anonymous
There are two types of people in this situation:
1.) Those who have no doubt in their mind about anything to worry about
2.) Those who do
9 months ago
Anonymous
hack checks don't exist for you to make sure you used pkhex right or that your trade bot works. they exist to ban cheaters and morons
9 months ago
Anonymous
Epic, so why not get that over with before sending cheaters invites to your biggest event?
9 months ago
Anonymous
because said cheaters would just keep submitting cheated mons until they pass the check
9 months ago
Anonymous
>um, what's wrong with giving cheaters a free check on whether their hacks pass or not guys, I just don't get it fellow legitbros
Are you so shortsighted to think there wouldn't be a limit to how many times you could attempt to register?
9 months ago
Anonymous
no "limit" to make up for shit. you get to send one team and if it is not legit you get banned from competing for 2 years anyway. wanna do that or are you finally going to admit you just want to help cheaters?
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Get banned for 2 years because the version exclusive mon you traded for was hacked
Really brilliant move, you definitely gave that one some thought.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>n-no you can't just BAN me for... cheating!!
kys cheaterBlack person
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Oh? You didn't buy the SV double pack? You're a cheater!
kys shill
9 months ago
Anonymous
Cheat = get banned. Simple as. But I'm glad you finally stopped pretending and you're just defending cheaters now
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Cheaters are bad because they don't play the game >Play the game (trading for pokemon not in your version is a core part of pokemon) >Get banned for playing the game
Not the anon you replied to, but that's incredibly dumb logic.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Join a server with cheaters >Get banned for playing with cheaters
This is not uncommon and many games have a heavy stance and don't give a frick who gets caught in the crossfire
9 months ago
Anonymous
Wow anon, I didn't know wanting to ban cheaters before events happen was defending cheaters!
9 months ago
Anonymous
if you haven't realized by now, there are quite a few people in this thread that are very dumb. just don't bother.
9 months ago
Anonymous
But then we wouldn't get to laugh at you
9 months ago
Anonymous
But you didn't want them to get banned for getting caught in these alleged checks.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Go make real friends and trade with them you loser. That's like the entire point of Pokemon.
9 months ago
Anonymous
sounds like you're contantly adding a lot of additional steps for something only cheaterBlack folk would take advantage for and has zero gain for legit players
9 months ago
Anonymous
Go ahead, explain how there would be zero gain for legit players. Reminder, everyone gets checked regardless, no "dude, just trust me" at events.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You're the one that has to prove there's something to gain for legit players bro... legit players don't need to check their team in advance for hacks, because they fricking know they haven't hacked them. I know this must be inconceivable for a cheater apologist like you, but it's just like that.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Public online humiliation and shame (that is deserved)
9 months ago
Anonymous
How are they supposed to conduct proper hack checks before players even travel to the event?
9 months ago
Anonymous
>um, what's wrong with giving cheaters a free check on whether their hacks pass or not guys, I just don't get it fellow legitbros
9 months ago
Anonymous
And why does that matter? If you have legitimate mons, which you should, when the hack check happens literally does not affect you.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Are you genuinely stupid? How would it *not* be helpful for legitimate players to be able to pre-register their teams before going to an event?
Because team registration is already done ahead of time on RK9. In game there's no battle box locking anymore, so nothing needs to be done or registered in game. The only thing an in game check ahead of time would do is help people who are too moronic to cheat properly.
No it doesn't. If you don't want to get canned for cheating, don't cheat. It's as simple as that.
Checks like these should be kept as well under wraps as possible so it's harder to build around them.
You act like these people are innocent. They are not, especially compared to someone who actually plays the games and would be more deserving of their place.
to think the entire fanbase is filled with losers like this who take this shit franchise so seriously that they waste shitloads of cash on it, only to embarrass themselves
i cannot imagine what kind of brain damage these losers have lmao
it's kinda dumb for a game that wants to be treated as 'competitive' to require playing through a single player version of the game that barely resembles what the competitive game's rulesets are
like whatever, sports all set their own rules so their within their right to do what they want, but it'd be like if you had to bring your own chess pieces to a game but the only way to get all your pieces was to win them at a casino first.
I mean, it really doesn't ask you to. You have access to everything from the get go to breed or modify your team, you just need to play through the intro.
people are going to utilize other methods that do not involve hatching eggs and collecting mints repeatedly as that has absolutely nothing to do with a player's skill in battles. welcome to competitive gaming
You know what fixed all this shit so that everyone was happy and everyone could play on an even playing field all while presenting in a more professional looking environment? Pokemon Stadium. Too bad that's never getting a sequel so rental pokemon are never, ever coming back.
I've basically decided to never build around Enamorus until it's available in a different game because how hard it'd be to get 0 speed, I think from my three replays of PLA they've all been 31 speed
Maybe this can be a lesson for TPC too and change things in future games. Maye drop the 3 perfect iv thing now that we have hyper training and make it so all legends come with 0 iv by default.
Hacked Switches are decently rare, in terms of softmodding they only exist from the literal first year of print, past that you have to solder which is far more effort than most people are willing to go through
A certain Furgay tuber is probably creaming his pants right now, and is most likely going to milk the shit out of this. I can't wait for the bait threads
I acknowledge that getting some Pokemon (aka 0 IV ATK or Speed Legends) can be tough, and they should be more accessible, but I also find it kind of darkly humorous that people are/were getting DQed, even up to their last possible game.
>being a pokehomosexual in 2023 >being passionate about competitive pokeshit >so much that you embarrass yourself by going to these events and getting btfo by tpci themselves
what causes adults to do this? manchild disease seems to be very common in this fanbase
I'm confused. Pkhex is used correctly makes legit Pokémon everytime. Couldn't he have gotten a CFW 3DS for Lando? As for Urshifu that was a stupid problem to have because if you are taking this shit seriously you should have SWORD/SHIELD plus Home and modern games don't even need pkhex for perfect mons.
It's because of a unique code that pokemon home gives every pokemon when they enter, and the people affected were using pokemon that could've ONLY come from home and they didn't have a code attached to them.
Technically pokemon that are transfer exclusive can be genned without a home code and be considered legal, but there's presently no way to get something like an ursaluna without transferring so that's what set off the hack check.
Yeah but that can easily be done by genning one on PLA and then trading it to Home. If you wanna be more strict just use bottle caps in SV but technically that's not even needed because as long as the tracking ID is set with the 6 31IV it will pass legal checks. Pkhex is actually more strict than what Home or VGC checks are. This Pokémon wouldn't have passed Pkhex and Idk why the dude thought it was a good idea to use it.
We hackers literally knew this a long time ago. The devs of Pkhex were very clear on this and there are multiple guides on how to make a Legal Pokémon. I don't understand how can you even fail at this? This isn't fricking Gen 4 or worst Gen 3 where you had to find a legal PID or shit like that. It's so stupid easy to make legal hacked Pokémon.
Bro we knew that in order to make a Legal Pokémon that's not available on SV you have to have a legal Home Tracking ID. We knew that in order to have that we have to make it in PLA or Bank for Lando with PLA being faster. If you don't have a hacked switch you can use a PLA bot to send you the Pokémon from a pkm file. Then send that Pokémon to home. It's that easy. We knew this since Gen 8 that you need to leave the tracking ID empty before sending it to Home so Home can generate one for it. So a Pokémon that's not available to be caught in SV needs to have a valid Home Tracking ID.
Literally what's wrong with injecting legal and completely generable pokemon into the game for your competitive set? You're cutting off the middle man and actually using and experimenting with the battle probabilities of these pokemon instead of wasting a ton of a time on a single pokemon only to discover it's not viable for you or as good as you envisioned.
Not everyone is as autistic or perfectionist enough to find that shit fun. You end up wasting your time doing menial stuff and inventory management instead of doing actual battle.
players have been doing this for years, Verlisify infamously makes the same autistic complaint every Worlds for that reason, literally the only thing distinguishing injected and natural mons right now are HOME tracking codes
Everytime one of these entitled brats complain, you hear them shout accessibility like it's the current year equivalent of racism
Like on god stop being so absolutely fricking lazy that you can pay thousands to go to worlds but not another $30 for a used copy of a game
Why even gen Pokemon at this point? Why not inject 999 of mints, candies, bottle caps and vitamins and feathers so you can get any Pokemon you need up to snuff in minutes?
>Why not inject 999 of mints, candies, bottle caps and vitamins and feathers so you can get any Pokemon you need up to snuff in minutes?
See
Am I missing something here? Why don’t these people just inject the items needed?
Which is really fricking stupid considering how easy it is to do, and the fact that it's fricking Pokemon. We've been dealing with this shoot for over a decade.. I even bought a spare Switch for like $90 on eBay a few years ago and I just swap my controllers. All Switches are hackable. You could probably buy the modchip and a Switch Lite for less than it would cost for both games and their respective DLCs.
I'll never understand people are convinced genning is morally wrong and the problem isn't the arbitrary anti-external software rule. If genning were to be made legitimate, actual legitimate players would have nothing to b***h about because there would be no gap in practice time in relation to obtaining a pokemon. They should want the rule gone just as much as genners.
how to get hacked pokemon but legal: >use ryujinx LAN edition >rom dump your swatch games (hey i said legal dumbass) >play swatch games on 'puter >use pkhex to hex in exclusive mons you can't get in those games >use the power of ryujinx LAN to trade those mons from that game to your game on the switch (actually fricking works) >trade mon to home >go from home to s/v >"legit"gays seethe >??? >profit
>Catch it in PLA >trade it to home >send that Mon to either SwSh or SV >depending on the build you want use Vitamins, Mints and Bottle Caps accordingly
It's really that easy.
>Be "seasoned" competitive player >Make money streaming and selling shitty merch >Qualify for tournament >Skim past TOS & Rules >LOL, agree blah blah blah whatever >Spend money for travel to tournament, hotel, food budget
>GameFreak can't expect me to buy every game! This is ridiculous!
Caught mine in Dynamax Adventures, transferred over to Violet, and EV trained it. Took about 20 minutes. The only leg you morons have to stand on are Tera shards, which are legitimately bullshit and time consuming to obtain. Play the games.
people like this who got caught using terrible hacks on the world stage and still showing no remorse for their actions should be permabanned by tpci. take the L and move on, embarrassing.
How did they even get to worlds if they were using hacked shit? Wouldn't they be DQ on a previous tournament and learned from that? or ar we looking at legit moronic people?
Nah, that means they'll have to pay him.
They're probably bidding their time and collecting evidence so they can slap him with it all at once and effectively make him work for "free".
Pkhex bros win once again. Maybe now vgc trannies will learn how to actually use such a basic app
FPBP how this hasn't already been said i dunno
injecting has always been cringe and obscenely easy to detect.
just spend 1 second actually catching the mon and then modifying it, genuinely cannot be detected whatsoever.
I thought that's what people did.
No shit they're getting caught now.
The sort of person with the time and resources to play Pokémon or MtG or Yugioh competitively (anything with an eSports scene that is largely self-sponser) 100 to 1 comes from a very privileged background.
AKA, outside of the competition itself, they skew wealthy but moronic.
so this is gonna be a meme game that doesn't mean shit
>https://twitter.com/pero_francesco/status/1689883904428355584
yugioh doesn't cost very much money to play at all, and used to be relatively simple, now it's gotten far more complex, but if you have base knowledge from playing past tournament play it's easy to pick back up.
>/thread yugiohgay
>yugioh doesn't cost very much money to play at all
tell me you have never played competitive at a high level without telling me.
New decks cost you ~$200-500 per new set, quit being a fricking moron
When most people talk about being able to "play" a card game they imply it's with friends that won't be snarky b***hes about power levels and everyone keeps things around the same price point. You know, like Pokemon and Magic the Gathering easily allow, because they're resource based games.
No the frick they don't you moron.
You're just the butthole in your group my man.
Snarky b***h detected.
Played yugioh for 18 years lol. Been playing since March 2005. Got Steined at 9 at a local and kept playing lmao. You're objectively wrong. From August of last year til January of this past year the best deck was 200 dollars max, and this was a tier 0 deck, probably the best deck ever released, tearlament.
Kashtira was expensive for a brief period, but you're objectively wrong. Yugioh hasn't been expensive since 2008, and the last "expensive" format was 2013 Nats format, with Dragon Ruler and Spellbook, everything is cheap.
Tell me you've never fricking played the game without telling me you homosexual fricking moron.
Wait, there are morons that actually gen a Pokemon from scratch?
Idc about the morality of genning I just find it really fricking funny that you would spend literal thousands to get DQ'd in pools for not spending $30 more for a used copy and not worrying about shit like this
>earned
with money
>it's scary
What a groomed troony homosexual
>scary
What
>pkhexsisters we got too wienery….
more like people unable to use a computer got too wienery
pkhex literally is the best way to check legality of your mon.
If they didn't use illegal mons before, yes they earned it
This is why they need to bring back Powersaves. There needs to be an easier in game method than shoving Pokémon in a daycare to hatch shit with perfect 1s and 0s
you can literally just give monsters mints, use ability caps or patches, hyper train, use mirror herb, TMs are renewable. there's so much QoL to making competitive sets and teams compared to earlier titles makes it laughable that people can't just take the time to make their own legit teams or trade for even. If the game isn't fun, drop it.
If you're going to hack, can't you just hack a dozen of these items into your game instead of hacking the Pokemon directly? Surely that can't be detected?
Yes but injecting is so deeply rooted in the culture and a lot of these people don’t care about Pokemon outside the comp events, some of them legit have zero clue how the game works outside pvp battles
That would be the 3 digit IQ move. Having a mon with 6 perfect IVs in a game without RNG manipulation is a lottery chance, and idiots run teams with six of them. However, if you have shit IVs but hyper-trained, nobody would question it.
>is a lottery chance
Which cannot and won't ever be disputed as it is a possibility.
If you have a 6IV Ditto the chance is literally less than 1/100 to breed one, get over yourself.
A team of 6 perfect IV Pokemon with caught location as some random route and 6IV from an egg are completely different things.
These comp players don't play Pokemon outside of competitions, they only play Showdown. They don't know or care about mints, bottle caps, etc. because they don't actually play the games. They gen everything and risk bans because they don't know or care to learn to make teams in-game because they don't want to play the game, they just want to e-sports.
These posts have it right. If you hack in the inventory limit of consumables that allow you to max out your pokemon plus TMs, then you'll be fine, they don't check your save for shit like that.
And if you wanted to be extra careful in case they do start checking save files for that, you'd just do it on a different game/save
Then cheaters would complain how you "have to" buy two copies of the game lmao.
>competent hack checks
99% this was a HOME Tracker issue; most traders (bots, paid, etc.) leave the HOME tracker blank because every Pokemon is assigned a UNIQUE tracking number when it is uploaded; you cannot spoof it, and any trader Switch has CFW and isn't connecting to HOME to get one. You CAN still use these "illegal" Pokemon in SV with no issue, and can even trade them 'locally'.
So if the VGC looks at a pokemon that DOESN'T exist in SV (coming from PLA, SwSh, etc.) and it DOESN'T have a Home tracker, it is obviously illegitimate, as you need to send it through HOME to get it on your game.
The fix is braindead simple: upload the Pokemon before using it. That he is so fricking stupid to not know this, and not upload/download his mons once, earns him this DQ.
The other 1% is that it was given a fake HOME tracker, which would immediately be rejected by the server for not matching the data assigned to that tracking number.
That's one of the few things I've heard that actually impresses me a bit. I remember when the G8 (7?) offical mon hack checker was leaked along with all that other stuff and how pathetic it was. If a Home check is that unique and easy, they finally got something good going. At least for ones that need to touch Home.
Tardlet here.Does this work for mons genned in SV that arent native? So if you gen in a Cresselia to SV, and upload it to Home, will it have the proper check even though its not technically from whatever correct origin game?
gamefreak has been generous enough to do this, yes.
Nice. Thanks anon.
No. Cresselia can't be caught in S/V and that's a basic check that makes it non-legit.
But if it has an Origin mark of, lets say BDSP, but was Gen'd into SV (naturally missing the Home check), then uploaded into Home, it should be fine after, as
is saying, no?
If it has an origin mark of BDSP then the catch location has to be one of the routes it roams in BDSP, it has to have the level it has in BDSP, has to be caught with an available ball in BDSP, and has to have at least 3 perfect IVs.
Both incorrect. It needs to follow the correct route of transfer: BDSP -> HOME -> SV
If you are going to send something in SV that supposedly has data showing it originates from BDSP, but it has never been in HOME and thus doesn't have a tracker, you are setting that up for a flag, because it's impossible for it to have gotten to SV otherwise.
So in other words, a Gen'd Cresselia into SV is always wrong, it has to be Gen'd into BDSP first?
Exactly
It's possible, but I don't think the Home checks run that deep. Maybe someday. If there is expectation that Cresselia will be available in SV DLC, then such a check would need to be removed. Do you really see GameFreak creating and then removing temporary checks?
If you can bring it into Home, I'd say it's fine.
Home tracking keeps track of origin game and the like. If a Pokémon that has an origin game as “SV”, but isn’t in SV, then it’s flagged.
It’s why all these VGC players are getting caught, either the home tracker doesn’t exist or it’s invalid.
>HOME Tracker
>every Pokemon is assigned a UNIQUE tracking number when it is uploaded
I HATE DIGITAL IDS
I HATE DIGITAL IDS
seethe
dilate
+2 social credit has deposited into your account.
The part that he didn’t add is that he used PKHex on the legitimate mons that he got traded, thus knowingly screwing himself over. What a moron.
given that these are legendaries and don't have egg moves and shit, how could you even frick up pkhexing a traded one?
did he actually just fricking change the nature/IVs directly instead of making it hyper trained/minted?
Fricking lmao what did he expect to happen
>this imbecile had the mons
>decided to hack them and frick it up
why not just hack mints and tera shards in if you're gonna be a fricking idiot
>ask for legal mons
>get legal mons
>illegally modify them anyways
Is he moronic?
why do you need the lando to come from arceus specifically?
Because it's the only Landorus you can get in SV
Sw/Sh
You can transfer from literally any game. PLA isn't even the only Switch game with Lando, it's in SWSH.
Why can't they just use literally any other Landorus? SV has Home connectivity, send the genie to Home, then to SV.
I am not a competitivegay or maybe I’m just dumb, but I don’t understand why anyone would need to hack a Pokémon.
In the current games it takes literally seconds to maximize IVs, change nature or teach egg moves to any Pokémon you own.
What is left for someone to hack?
It takes even less time to make a set on pokemon showdown, and then send it to a discord bot to trade you the pokemon
I am not a coomer or maybe I'm just dumb, but I don't understand why anyone would need to pay for porn. In the current internet it takes literally one fraction of a second to type in "big boob blonde milf porn" and find 1,000,000 results. Why would anyone give money to streamers?
Your analogy answered it: you are just dumb
This is an even more valid question though, you're supposed to reply with one that makes the answer seem obvious
The answer is obvious you just don't get it because you're probably part of the problem: most people are stupid.
this isn't the gotcha you thought it was
anyone that pays for porn is a genuine subhuman
Yes.
Sometimes having max iv's is not what you want. Some strategies require you to do the opposite, like a trickroom team. I'm not sure why you need hyper specific IVs on a Lando and an Urshifu tho.
>
These people probably are too dumb to realize that most legendaries caught now have 3 guaranteed perfect IVs. I'd bet they dropped the IV spread to a point where there weren't 3.
HE HAD MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO DO IN HIS LIFE, YOU HECCIN NATZI CHUD!
HE HAD TO JACK HIS DICK OFF TO LITTLE POKEGIRLS AND FURRY POKEMONERRINOS!
If he simply came out and admitted to this I would forgive him entirely.
What's the importance of being forgiven by you?
Why do you assume I'm important? I'm just a Bernd like anyone else on here.
Oh, well this is simpler. The HOME Tracker keeps track of all your immutable stats like IVs. So yeah, if he fricked with them, easy find.
How do these morons even gen illegal mons. Learn to hack noobs.
One of their dicksuckers do it for them, horribly.
A good hack should never be detected. It's not even that hard to check verify your genned mon in the first place.
>script kiddies get b&
and the sun shines
>PLA is the only way to get a Landorus
>thinks you need to have your cartridge to transfer to and from home
These people don't play the game, they had it coming to them
Also, any info on what kind of new check they did?
see
HOME tracks all your immutable stats, IVs being one of them. If he edited the IVs, they simply compared the state of his game's pokemon to what was registered on HOME, saw the IVs/nature/whatever were changed (which is impossible, HT and Mints are a flag) and it's painfully obvious.
The way to do this right is hack Urshifu on Sword/Shield upload it on Home and Home will track whatever you did. The fact that he didn't have Sword/Shield shows he didn't take this seriously enough.
The problem with this idiot, is that he didn't own PLA and didn't have access to his SwSh cart. It has to go to HOME to get to SV.
But you could just blank the tracker, and reroll your EC/PID, and reupload it to get a new tracker. This guy didn't, and blew his chance for being the laziest of lazy players.
The games aren't even expensive when bought used I got PLA for like 10 bucks, but this moron is gonna moron. He has money to fly to japan but not enough money to buy the game used?
I'M TOO FRICKING BUSY TO USE BOTTLE CAPS
I HAVE UNDERAGE GIRLS TO TALK TO IN DMs
tl;dr this dumbass is almost as moronic as gamefrick
the home tracker is about as secure as a master lock when it comes to stopping injecting
it only keeps the animals out
>it only keeps the animals out
This is unironically the actual reason why the PKHex creator gets so mad about people abusing it, you don't think he knows what most people do with it?
Imagine making illegal mons and being SO, SO moronic you'd use them in an official format and not even bother to at least make them look legit under the scope. I'd get pissed off at the morons too.
which, you know what? making an environment where you have to prove your intelligence to take part isn't a bad thing
its because people find the battle system *itself* fun.
That's why shit like showdown exists, and why people inject. They don't give a single shit about the gameplay beyond battling.
They don't care about the world, the mon designs (there's a reason why compgays discuss mons solely in terms of stats and strategy), the graphics, the animations, the sounds, anything. All they like is the battle system, as though it were a standalone game itself. Its less like FF/SMT/whatever and more like games like chess.
And I don't have a problem with that.
But gamefrick just doesn't get it. If they had something like showdown, that's all compgays would ever use.
TPC is moronic and thinks you should have to whittle your own fricking pieces before you're allowed to sit down and actually play.
Pokémon are supposed to be your friends, not tools for battling. Comparing them to chess pieces is stupid.
Pokemon could just be slightly different pictures of rocks as long as they have different stats, types, moves, and abilities as far as competitive battling is concerned.
Bro, everyone fricking gens in this game. If the Pokémon is legal in terms of stats and moves, it shouldn't be banned.
So what happens to the player that lost to cheaters?
More or less. The reality is, genning Pokemon is super easy, yet people still frick it up.
The VGC's position may as well be "cheat, but don't make it stupid obvious".
Isn't this the moron the other moron (Wolfey) was complaining "stole" his team?
Yep. Can't make a team, can't catch a mon.
Why wouldn't you bring your Pokémon games to a Pokémon tournament?
Are you implying people play pokemon?
another one bites the dust
https://twitter.com/pero_francesco/status/1689883904428355584
BTW every single shiny Mane is legit, legal, I was so lucky.
I haven't played manline pokemon since X. Is it really that hard to "fair hack" your shit now?
>he didn't read the thread
I don't quite understand. You can't edit your pokes if they touched Home before? Can't you just hack them into SV first, then validate them through Home?
If the Pokemon isn't native to SV, it *HAS* to go through HOME to be legal.
Read
Home added a few extra steps to make pokemon legal in pkhex. The problem is these vgc players are fat and lazy, and just repeat what they've done for years without doing even a hint of research
ACK!!
https://twitter.com/FedeCampoVGC/status/1689878152993275904
it just keeps happening
how is spending 1 minute of effort making it not blatantly hacked too hard of a task for these tards
frick's sake you only have six fricking mons on a team
The funniest thing is that he still made day 2
>genners are low iq morons
wow who would have guessed??? not me!"!!
OH NO NO NO NO
lmao were they all caught just because they didn't send any of their hacks from PLA and SWSH to HOME to get a tracker number
I assume it will be a mix of that and them finally looking closely at certain Pokemon, squeezing their brains to scrutinize any "mysteriously natural 6IV"
>b-b-b-but it is not impossible to roll one like that!
Yeah but the ones caught in the DQ are probably the ones that went full moron and didn't cover their bases properly
I hope they all get blacklisted from all future pokemon events.
>Buy SwSh/BDSP
>Trade a mon to a Discord bot to get your SID
>Use an RNG manip tool and your TID/SID to find the perfect mon
>Catch it
I'm a fricking braindead mouthbreather and even I can get nearly any Pokémon with perfect stats in less than an hour
>an hour
It takes me less than five minutes to make a comp mon in SV
Frick all of these losers. I hope they are permabanned from all future events.
I love this. They have made it so insanely easy to get competitive Pokemon at this point, even with 0 speed and attack IVs it can be done in a matter of hours, and if you just want 6IV perfect mon you can literally grab it in the wild and bottle cap it. These lazy frickers deserve to be permanently banned, I couldn't give less of a shit about how it's competitively the same, it's against the rules and that's what they signed up for.
you need to grind for bottle caps and hacking around grind is alwys morally right
>do 5 tera raids
wow so hard, you can even buy them from the shops lol
Doing five tera raids cannot give you enough shards to change a mon, play the game poser.
it does if you join bot raids that drop 12 shards per run while also having the pokemon be shiny
>Doing five tera raids cannot give you enough shards to change a mon,
No, but only a few more than that.
Also there's an event going on right now that shits out Tera Shards like it had some spoiled Taco Bell, so if you want to grind efficiently then get to it
You can literally buy bottle caps from shops.
The only things you can't buy in terms of training are 0 Attack and Speed IVs, and Tera Shards. The former is something that's addressed in the Teal Mask with mochi, and I'd bet the latter will get a shop too in Indigo Disk.
The mochi doesn't frick with IV's, it's EV training and EV clearing.
Genuinely what the frick am I reading? So they're the same as the feathers or wings or whatever and then there's also one that's a full reset?
Yeah, I imagine he only difference is you can buy them
>Full Heal
>Pewter Crunchies
>Rage Candy Bar
>Lava Cookie
>Old Gateau
>Casteliacone
>Lumiose Galette
>Shalour Sable
>Big Malasada
>Jubilife Muffin
WHY >:(
You can probably get a metric frickton of them since you earn the mochi from the new minigame.
Plus entering the minigame will probably be free, no need to spend money at the store or auctions
Maybe it takes anon 1 hour to grind the EVs with manual encounters and some Academy Tournament cash for the mint/bottle caps
Why do we need even more stupid EV items. We already have vitamins and feathers, and berries to clear EVs.
We're very likely getting an IV editor with the second DLC, they gave us the HA item in the second DLC in Swooshie
But we already have an "IV editor". The best we'll get is a rusty bottle cap that emulates an IV stat to 0, but I doubt Gay Freak sees the use of it and would rather have people hack.
they will hack anyway and you know it
Yeah I was talking of IV nullification specifcally here. Bottle caps rn maximise IVs
You expect people that can't be bothered with regular bottlecaps to use one that lowers IVs?
What. The frick?
Why add even more EV training items? Vitamins and feathers were fine, and there were specific bands for training specific stats. What needed adjusting were IVs.
Sword and Shield did the same thing and it was generally received positively.
Personally I like it, grinding for EV reset berries is a pain. The +1 EV in particular stat is probably just to flesh out the setting a bit, like how they have stuff like gateau even though full heals exist and are way easier to obtain.
moronic company
and an even moronic fanbase
esl
>Takes a DLC to do the same shit SwSh did post-game
Man Gamefreak really is wringing as much as they can out of people that take the games seriously aren't they.
Resetting EVs was DLC in SWSH too
Was it? Shit should be base game really. Still super dumb that QOL stuff like that requires a paid addon.
I hate item bloat.
Keep telling yourself that
Having used genned mons in the past at big tournaments and gotten away with it I can guarantee that the only reason he got caught was because he was a moron with how he genned them
The most damning thing about this is the fact that this guy runs a Youtube channel dedicated to VGC training, so this is a bit of an image wrecker
Hackers IQ is far below 90
I traded a Stantler from SV into PLA and evolved it into Wyrdeer
Is it supposed to show as illegal or do I need to check something on Wyrdeer?
It says something about a location data?
I think the idea is that you need Home to transfer it and that's when it would be assigned the ID.
This only happened to when I transferred a Mon from SV into PLA and then evolved it into it's PLA form/Evo and sent it back into SV
Sending a PLA Mon into SV doesn't flag it at all though
They can't even put in bottom of the barrel effort
The HOME tracker thing has literally (and I do mean that) never mattered before, and it was never communicated that it did.
>Game Freak have shit hack checking, but do it anyway
>Get mad when they actually do something half decently for once and it works as intended
It was always going to happen at some point, you were just too stupid to see the writing on the wall. There are many Pokémon that can only come from Home, and so having those without the Home Tracker is absolutely braindead
>Pokemon hack checks were always historically bad, allowing blatantly hacked shit through with no problem
>For the first time ever, they're checking for something specific that has never been checked before
>"I-I-It was always going to happen, you're just stupid!!"
You can stop pretending like this was always going to happen, there was no precedent. People know what to look for now, so competent hackers will just take that in to account now.
what did he mean by this
No one had any idea of any tracking ID nonsense before this tournament
This is the first ever tourney with Home transfer Pokemon allowed
People will take note for the next season
It was literally communicated before the tournament. These people just have no effort to read the TOS they are agreeing to.
Its something that has 0 impact on Pokemon’s battle performance, of course people are pissed
The problem is Japan and their autistic software modification laws
Most VGC players never bothered downloading Home, they just gen straight from the discord bots
Most also never played Legends or BDSP and no one’s paying $120+Home subscribtion for 1-2 mons
I dont think there is such a thing in SV, your Pokemon gets auto cleaned off the old moves during the transfer
And everything to do with being against the rules of the tourney. If they weren't utter morons, they'd be nice and legal, if not legit but they thought they could just ungabunga it because they didn't get stopped before spending all that money to fly to Japan to get fricked out for failing to follow the TOS of the tournament.
What happens if you take a Battle Ready Mark Pokémon into SV? Does it keep the mark or does it just go away because of SV removing moves automatically?
Are they genuinely moronic? Everyone who knows about genning in gen 9 knows this shit. Hell anyone who knows about genning in gen 8 knows this shit.
Didn't Gen 8 allow anything with a Battle Ready mark?
Home Tracking ID is a big thing with making legal Gen 8 and now Gen 9 Pokémon. It is stated to not touch said ID and leave it blank, then upload it to Home. The problem was that the idiot made Urshifu in SV instead of buying a used copy of Sword and Shield and doing the hack there.
Not to mention Swooshie is available for like 5 bucks right now
I rarely check /vp/ and I don't follow any competitive Pokemon stuff(only seen that one "Pokemon comp used to be p2w" or whatever the video was called), but is this some kind of cheating scandal?
>fedecampo made it to day 2 of worlds even after the hack check took out one of his mons
I don't think people understand that genning isn't an immediate patch to a lack of skill
We understand that they might be good at the game, but to risk DQ due to abject laziness is dumb as frick. Good mons aren't hard to get anymore
Please
Please
Please
Honestly I didn't even mind hacked pokemon just for use on your own
Bust jesus h CHRIST
STOP SENDING FRICKING ADVERTISEMENTS OVER FRICKING WONDERTRADE
NO ONE WANTS TO GET IMPOSSIBLE VERY CLEARLY HACKED POKEMON CALLED ZACIAN.NET OR MACHAMPS.ORG OR WHATEVER Black person SITES YOU Black folk ARE USING NOW
FRICK
OFF
I hope all the gays doing this shit get banned and sued to oblivion, face the same sort of fate that Gary Bowser guy did.
>surprise trade until i get a hacked mon (usually very quickly)
>take the item off of it (normally a master ball/ability patch)
>release the mon
>repeat
I help clean up the pool and get to farm items while doing it
Can you claim you got the hacked pokemon from surprise trade and didn't know it was hacked?
>I just happened to get 3 competitive Pokemon from Surprise Trade that magically fit the criteria for my team
Not impossible
Why do people feel the need to cheat in a world where nature mints exist, hyper training exists, and event exclusive moves no longer exist? Literally anyone can get these mons in their tip-top maximum potential shape, there's no excuse anymore. You normies literally removed all the autism and you're still cheating us for no reason.
Because you can't 0 out IVs still, and it takes several hours spread out across several days to farm the tera shards to change a tera type.
Every other competitive sport requires players to train before the big game.
We have right now Blissey Tera Shard piñatas in the event dens and this is the THIRD time they have run them (with another rerun scheduled already). Literally no excuse for anyone to say "Tera shard farm takes ages ;_;"
>Only God can judge me
We don't define you, your own dumbfrick actions define you
"My response to wolfey" proceeds to respond to someone else
oh its one of these homosexuals
Wait is Wolfey shitting on this dude for using genned mons?
Is that bastard really going for the "holier than thou" shit WHEN HE IS USING GENNED MONS HIMSELF FOR YEARS AND FOR ALMOST EVERY TOURNAMENT HE PARTICIPATED IN? That's frickin rich
He's shitting on him because he "stole his leaked team"
why you sperging out when you don't even know what is being spoken about? lmao
check my other thread
thats it? lmfao
>thats it? lmfao
Yeah he was b***hing about it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onn_fljVCvk
that's... so weird. Why are you pretending you made that thread? I made it.
Why would you lie like that?
>no u
ok schizo I'm not playing your little gaslighting game
Kys verlisigay, if anything this shows Wolfe doesn't used genned mons since he wasn't DQ'd
You don't have to be a furgay to know he used genned mons. Kurt himself confirmed it even.
So would dropping off your 'mons in home and taking them back out enough to get past this """""""hack check"""""?
Depends on how well it's implemented. The checker may keep track of the species, and thus may notice that an Ursaluna was generated pre-DLC in SV, rather than in PLA. If that's the case, you can't do much to circumvent it
>and thus may notice that an Ursaluna was generated pre-DLC in SV
It doesn't do this. People who set their clocks to past dates (like for forcing weather changes in Sw/Sh) would automatically get canned.
I meant the SV DLC hasn't released yet, so the Peat Block, despite being programmed into SV, is only available in PLA at present
I highly doubt it works that way. If someone had an old Teddiursa/Ursaring sitting in storage, and decided to evolve in PLA, they are free to do that.
Evolution date is not data that gets recorded. The only ways such an Ursaluna would be flagged would be if it was caught as Ursaluna, because it's not possible to catch Ursaluna in the wild, or if for example it was supposedly caught in PLA with a ball that doesn't exist there. Genners are stupid and don't think that far ahead, like that dumbass years ago who decided they would enter Gen 6 competitive with a Dream Ball Aegislash. Anyone who actually plays the games should easily know what combinations are and are not possible.
These are basic concepts.
It's a secondary check that takes note and permanently registers how the Pokemon was upon first contact to servers. If anything that cannot be modified is modified (like IVs, ball, catch location, etc) and compared against that initial snapshot, it will flag.
It would be in the best interest for everyone if this hack check was done BEFORE getting invites to worlds. Pokemon needs to make a team checker you can do in-game, and if your pokemon can pass that you're good to go.
Why? Wasting cheater money is a moral good upon the world.
Not him but I'd immensely prefer non-cheaters to be qualified to the event, instead of cheaters wasting a spot
Cool, and?
And that contradicts exactly what they were just saying, about them being lottery odds. God zoomer reading comprehension is abysmal.
>And that contradicts exactly what they were just saying, about them being lottery odds.
Which doesn't bring anything to the argument in the first place
Actual odds are meaningless as long as they're not 0
Lottery odds are not literal impossible odds, now you're just being a defeatist. It takes one afternoon to breed a 6IV team, another to train them all up, stop being such a baby in this toddler game.
I am literally saying that you can't dispute the legality of a team no matter how small the odds are
It would benefit literally everyone if you could get your team checked and registered before traveling to an event, there's not really any debate here.
People that do bad things shouldn't receive any kind of benefit, there is no debate here.
You're exclusively looking at this through a "cheater bad" lens, to the point you don't even see how incredibly helpful this would be to legitimate players. Very childish behavior.
Legitimate players aren't affected by this at all.
trading
if you think your trade bot or anyone giving you all the hard to find mons you want for free is a legit source you are moronic and deserve to be banned as much as someone doing it knowingly
So it seems you don't have to inject to be affected
Trade bots can do an uploaded pkhex file with the right encounter flags, that's how I got my "legit" 5IV trick room indeedee-f for a regional in series 2
Trading what? You mean Wonder Trading? That's the only possible way a legitimate player could be affected by this.
Are you genuinely stupid? How would it *not* be helpful for legitimate players to be able to pre-register their teams before going to an event?
It literally doesn't matter if you know your Pokemon are legit or not, why do you think they run hack checks in the first place?
>Are you genuinely stupid? How would it *not* be helpful for legitimate players to be able to pre-register their teams before going to an event?
Legitimate players know what is legitimate. If you cut corners and have people trading you Pokemon for your competitive team, you should at least be capable of doing the bare minimum research of whether or not it is legit.
More funny to expose cheaters on a public scene.
>Legitimate players know what is legitimate.
Cool, that means literally nothing because you will get hack checked anyways, so why not get that shit over with ahead of the event instead of during it?
It means you know nothing. Use your own Pokemon loser.
Actual room temperature IQ
Thanks for capitulating to my request.
Keep seething.
There are two types of people in this situation:
1.) Those who have no doubt in their mind about anything to worry about
2.) Those who do
hack checks don't exist for you to make sure you used pkhex right or that your trade bot works. they exist to ban cheaters and morons
Epic, so why not get that over with before sending cheaters invites to your biggest event?
because said cheaters would just keep submitting cheated mons until they pass the check
Are you so shortsighted to think there wouldn't be a limit to how many times you could attempt to register?
no "limit" to make up for shit. you get to send one team and if it is not legit you get banned from competing for 2 years anyway. wanna do that or are you finally going to admit you just want to help cheaters?
>Get banned for 2 years because the version exclusive mon you traded for was hacked
Really brilliant move, you definitely gave that one some thought.
>n-no you can't just BAN me for... cheating!!
kys cheaterBlack person
>Oh? You didn't buy the SV double pack? You're a cheater!
kys shill
Cheat = get banned. Simple as. But I'm glad you finally stopped pretending and you're just defending cheaters now
>Cheaters are bad because they don't play the game
>Play the game (trading for pokemon not in your version is a core part of pokemon)
>Get banned for playing the game
Not the anon you replied to, but that's incredibly dumb logic.
>Join a server with cheaters
>Get banned for playing with cheaters
This is not uncommon and many games have a heavy stance and don't give a frick who gets caught in the crossfire
Wow anon, I didn't know wanting to ban cheaters before events happen was defending cheaters!
if you haven't realized by now, there are quite a few people in this thread that are very dumb. just don't bother.
But then we wouldn't get to laugh at you
But you didn't want them to get banned for getting caught in these alleged checks.
Go make real friends and trade with them you loser. That's like the entire point of Pokemon.
sounds like you're contantly adding a lot of additional steps for something only cheaterBlack folk would take advantage for and has zero gain for legit players
Go ahead, explain how there would be zero gain for legit players. Reminder, everyone gets checked regardless, no "dude, just trust me" at events.
You're the one that has to prove there's something to gain for legit players bro... legit players don't need to check their team in advance for hacks, because they fricking know they haven't hacked them. I know this must be inconceivable for a cheater apologist like you, but it's just like that.
Public online humiliation and shame (that is deserved)
How are they supposed to conduct proper hack checks before players even travel to the event?
>um, what's wrong with giving cheaters a free check on whether their hacks pass or not guys, I just don't get it fellow legitbros
And why does that matter? If you have legitimate mons, which you should, when the hack check happens literally does not affect you.
>Are you genuinely stupid? How would it *not* be helpful for legitimate players to be able to pre-register their teams before going to an event?
Because team registration is already done ahead of time on RK9. In game there's no battle box locking anymore, so nothing needs to be done or registered in game. The only thing an in game check ahead of time would do is help people who are too moronic to cheat properly.
how does a legit player not know if the mons he got himself are legit?
No it doesn't. If you don't want to get canned for cheating, don't cheat. It's as simple as that.
Checks like these should be kept as well under wraps as possible so it's harder to build around them.
You act like these people are innocent. They are not, especially compared to someone who actually plays the games and would be more deserving of their place.
You have no idea how any of this works if you think it's possible to hack check before you're even invited.
>So much effort
>Didn't have a team last week
Things that make you go hmmmmmm
Most people dont take team building seriously because "is just pokemon".
>we need RESPECT for ignoring the rules and not getting our mons legit
This reads like a parody
>"MUH EFFORT but uses hackmons
>demands respect and cries like a b***h
lmao get fricked
Breeding isn't where the effort is, btw
Next to none of these players have a hacked switch
They dont unless you never played in a serious tournament. Making last minute calls a day before happens all the time.
to think the entire fanbase is filled with losers like this who take this shit franchise so seriously that they waste shitloads of cash on it, only to embarrass themselves
i cannot imagine what kind of brain damage these losers have lmao
Holy shit those tech illiterate zoomerlenials are so fricking embarrassing, and i'm saying this as a 96' zoomer, glad they got dq'd
>Pokemon players when they actually have to play Pokemon games
it's kinda dumb for a game that wants to be treated as 'competitive' to require playing through a single player version of the game that barely resembles what the competitive game's rulesets are
like whatever, sports all set their own rules so their within their right to do what they want, but it'd be like if you had to bring your own chess pieces to a game but the only way to get all your pieces was to win them at a casino first.
I mean, it really doesn't ask you to. You have access to everything from the get go to breed or modify your team, you just need to play through the intro.
>you just need to play through the intro.
So it's not from the get go?
Oh, sorry, didn't realize that you just wanted to be a whiny b***h.
people are going to utilize other methods that do not involve hatching eggs and collecting mints repeatedly as that has absolutely nothing to do with a player's skill in battles. welcome to competitive gaming
More like it's extremely dumb for the competitive aspect of the game to not even resemble the game itself
You know what fixed all this shit so that everyone was happy and everyone could play on an even playing field all while presenting in a more professional looking environment? Pokemon Stadium. Too bad that's never getting a sequel so rental pokemon are never, ever coming back.
Am I missing something here? Why don’t these people just inject the items needed?
Using hacked mons doesn't necessarily mean you have a hacked console with the ability to save edit, many get trades from bots or friends
There are some things yu cant get by yoursedlf easily. i.e: 0 iv legendary pokemon.
I've basically decided to never build around Enamorus until it's available in a different game because how hard it'd be to get 0 speed, I think from my three replays of PLA they've all been 31 speed
Maybe this can be a lesson for TPC too and change things in future games. Maye drop the 3 perfect iv thing now that we have hyper training and make it so all legends come with 0 iv by default.
That or the rusty bottle cap that people have wanted since gen 7
Or just remove IVs entirely like everything else in the games.
Hacked Switches are decently rare, in terms of softmodding they only exist from the literal first year of print, past that you have to solder which is far more effort than most people are willing to go through
>Hacked Switches are decently rare
Only as rare as people that make $500,000 a year on Ganker, or so I've heard from /vp/.
>nooo they didn't allow me to cheat at the world championship how could this happen to me?!
A certain Furgay tuber is probably creaming his pants right now, and is most likely going to milk the shit out of this. I can't wait for the bait threads
I acknowledge that getting some Pokemon (aka 0 IV ATK or Speed Legends) can be tough, and they should be more accessible, but I also find it kind of darkly humorous that people are/were getting DQed, even up to their last possible game.
>being a pokehomosexual in 2023
>being passionate about competitive pokeshit
>so much that you embarrass yourself by going to these events and getting btfo by tpci themselves
what causes adults to do this? manchild disease seems to be very common in this fanbase
isnt this literally pay to win
>Next thing, you'll be surprised that food and drink costs
wolfe admitted to using hacked mons and he didn't get DQ'd
if you're dumber than a washed up eceleb it's your own damn fault
>the furgay is reveling in this
how do we make it stop
Why isn't wolfe DQ yet?
tpc knew there was no need since he'd get btfo day 1 anyway
Because he probably has someone who does the hacks for him who is competent.
imagine getting caught with cheated pokemons and then complaining about being dq'd, they should get banned
I mean this stuff is basically illegal as hell in Japan so I imagine they'll slam down harder on hackers in their own home turf.
That's what I was thinking. Holding worlds in Japan meant that they were stricter with rules
I'm confused. Pkhex is used correctly makes legit Pokémon everytime. Couldn't he have gotten a CFW 3DS for Lando? As for Urshifu that was a stupid problem to have because if you are taking this shit seriously you should have SWORD/SHIELD plus Home and modern games don't even need pkhex for perfect mons.
It's because of a unique code that pokemon home gives every pokemon when they enter, and the people affected were using pokemon that could've ONLY come from home and they didn't have a code attached to them.
Technically pokemon that are transfer exclusive can be genned without a home code and be considered legal, but there's presently no way to get something like an ursaluna without transferring so that's what set off the hack check.
Yeah but that can easily be done by genning one on PLA and then trading it to Home. If you wanna be more strict just use bottle caps in SV but technically that's not even needed because as long as the tracking ID is set with the 6 31IV it will pass legal checks. Pkhex is actually more strict than what Home or VGC checks are. This Pokémon wouldn't have passed Pkhex and Idk why the dude thought it was a good idea to use it.
Banning morons and cheaters is great but I would like to take a moment to say that TPC is gay and that metas with transfers only mons are super gay
Brady Smith is legitimately a huge moron so I am not at all surprised this happened
I can't believe the furgay won
what did he win exactly
everyone still hates him, and he's not even good at the game
Alright so I have an hacked 3DS and Switch how much money can I make selling my services to dumb VGC participants?
None. The cat's out of the bag now, people will just transfer their genned mons to home before competing.
We hackers literally knew this a long time ago. The devs of Pkhex were very clear on this and there are multiple guides on how to make a Legal Pokémon. I don't understand how can you even fail at this? This isn't fricking Gen 4 or worst Gen 3 where you had to find a legal PID or shit like that. It's so stupid easy to make legal hacked Pokémon.
Because what is being flagged hasn't mattered until today, please read the thread.
Bro we knew that in order to make a Legal Pokémon that's not available on SV you have to have a legal Home Tracking ID. We knew that in order to have that we have to make it in PLA or Bank for Lando with PLA being faster. If you don't have a hacked switch you can use a PLA bot to send you the Pokémon from a pkm file. Then send that Pokémon to home. It's that easy. We knew this since Gen 8 that you need to leave the tracking ID empty before sending it to Home so Home can generate one for it. So a Pokémon that's not available to be caught in SV needs to have a valid Home Tracking ID.
Does this mean that we will get a domino effect with the players in getting DQ?
Not necessarily, everyone's already been hack checked at this point so anyone getting DQ'd because of hacks should already be out.
Literally what's wrong with injecting legal and completely generable pokemon into the game for your competitive set? You're cutting off the middle man and actually using and experimenting with the battle probabilities of these pokemon instead of wasting a ton of a time on a single pokemon only to discover it's not viable for you or as good as you envisioned.
Not everyone is as autistic or perfectionist enough to find that shit fun. You end up wasting your time doing menial stuff and inventory management instead of doing actual battle.
If there was nothing making them different from normal pokemon they wouldn't have been caught bro
players have been doing this for years, Verlisify infamously makes the same autistic complaint every Worlds for that reason, literally the only thing distinguishing injected and natural mons right now are HOME tracking codes
Everyone had hacked mons. The ones that got caught were simply too dumb.
I brought genned Pokemon to tournaments for years without getting caught, you just have to not be a moron about it.
https://twitter.com/oshinokrookodil/status/1689930432031457280?s=46&t=VQ-KHh-X2cJKdndvDEHMOQ
lets start a gofundme for this man
Everytime one of these entitled brats complain, you hear them shout accessibility like it's the current year equivalent of racism
Like on god stop being so absolutely fricking lazy that you can pay thousands to go to worlds but not another $30 for a used copy of a game
why is everyone talking about the need for 0iv enamorus to justify cheating? has it even been used? who is running 0 speed iv even with trick room?
Cheaters look for whatever arguments they can to justify their brain dead laziness. The goalposts will always move.
Why even gen Pokemon at this point? Why not inject 999 of mints, candies, bottle caps and vitamins and feathers so you can get any Pokemon you need up to snuff in minutes?
>Why not inject 999 of mints, candies, bottle caps and vitamins and feathers so you can get any Pokemon you need up to snuff in minutes?
See
Which is really fricking stupid considering how easy it is to do, and the fact that it's fricking Pokemon. We've been dealing with this shoot for over a decade.. I even bought a spare Switch for like $90 on eBay a few years ago and I just swap my controllers. All Switches are hackable. You could probably buy the modchip and a Switch Lite for less than it would cost for both games and their respective DLCs.
I'll never understand people are convinced genning is morally wrong and the problem isn't the arbitrary anti-external software rule. If genning were to be made legitimate, actual legitimate players would have nothing to b***h about because there would be no gap in practice time in relation to obtaining a pokemon. They should want the rule gone just as much as genners.
how to get hacked pokemon but legal:
>use ryujinx LAN edition
>rom dump your swatch games (hey i said legal dumbass)
>play swatch games on 'puter
>use pkhex to hex in exclusive mons you can't get in those games
>use the power of ryujinx LAN to trade those mons from that game to your game on the switch (actually fricking works)
>trade mon to home
>go from home to s/v
>"legit"gays seethe
>???
>profit
These morons fricking up simple tasks like genning legal Pokémon is just ridiculous.
Not really, what people are getting DQ'd for in their genned mons literally didn't matter until today
Pokemon fans when they have to actually play the games
Hi guys I’m new to VGC can you please tell me the vitamins, mints, wings and bottle caps I need to summon Landorus into my copy of Pokémon Violet?
Pokemon fans when they have to play the game
Use a Rental or buy SwSh.
>Catch it in PLA
>trade it to home
>send that Mon to either SwSh or SV
>depending on the build you want use Vitamins, Mints and Bottle Caps accordingly
It's really that easy.
>Be "seasoned" competitive player
>Make money streaming and selling shitty merch
>Qualify for tournament
>Skim past TOS & Rules
>LOL, agree blah blah blah whatever
>Spend money for travel to tournament, hotel, food budget
>GameFreak can't expect me to buy every game! This is ridiculous!
best bet is to ask brady for his VGC coaching advice.
I got a shiny Landorus from Dynamax Adventures. It took ten minutes to make him fully competitive.
Caught mine in Dynamax Adventures, transferred over to Violet, and EV trained it. Took about 20 minutes. The only leg you morons have to stand on are Tera shards, which are legitimately bullshit and time consuming to obtain. Play the games.
This dude is hilarious
people like this who got caught using terrible hacks on the world stage and still showing no remorse for their actions should be permabanned by tpci. take the L and move on, embarrassing.
So what happens if you take a Pokemon that can't be caught in SV, zero out its home tracker number, and then upload it to Home?
How did they even get to worlds if they were using hacked shit? Wouldn't they be DQ on a previous tournament and learned from that? or ar we looking at legit moronic people?
Japan’s hack check is better then TPCi’s hack check
Pkhex already has a good hack check. A Lando without a tracking ID will trigger an error.
Guarantee you Kurt will be hired as a hack checker by TPCi eventually, despite him making the main hacking program.
Nah, that means they'll have to pay him.
They're probably bidding their time and collecting evidence so they can slap him with it all at once and effectively make him work for "free".