The Sport Ball, an obscure Johto-only Pokeball had it's description updated to specify that it's from the Johto region for the first time in 20 years. Why would they do this?
The Rainbow Wing and Silver Wing were also renamed to be called the Rainbow Feather and Silver Feather. Lots of Johto related stuff has been tidied up in SV. Similar stuff happened before ORAS afaik.
Are these hints that we're getting not an experimental Johto game but a traditional remake (whether ILCA, Let's Go or standard?). NGL I wanted a Legends game, not a modern Johto game.
This is not even getting into the other subtle hints like the Cabo Poco theme being strikingly similar to New Bark Town, Kitakamis similarities to Johto, Johto crossgen evos
Sport ball is one of the lamest looking ball
Sport ball has one of my favorite send-out particle effects. only Master and Dusk are better imo.
>Sport Ball
You mean the Park Ball?
Whatever you wanna call it https://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sportball.shtml
the park ball is different anon, its the yellow, blue, and white one you use in the pal park
The Sport Ball was called the Park Ball in gen 2, they changed the burger name of it for HGSS.
Every single Johto legendary also got a significantly updated model while the Cucknova ones didn’t.
i can't tell which one is supposed tro be the updated one, both are bad
I still don't understand the hate for the gen8 models
The animations were ass sure
The model scaling was shitty, yes
But the models themselves looked pretty good imo
Because they are identical to the models made for X and Y in 2013 and look goofy, especially in HD. Not to mention the lighting in Sword and Shield makes them look like they're made of plastic. Scarlet and Violet were a huge step up in terms of presenting the Pokemon as living creatures, what with the textures and remodelled mons like Blastoise.
>Because they are identical to the models made for X and Y in 2013
no they aren't.
it's incredible people still spam this lie when it's incredibly obvious the second you start playing the game and see old pokemon that they modified them.
Well they aren't meaningfully different at the very least and the Pokémon look terrible and nothing like how they're depicted in other media? Is that ok?
the models are the same, only a few like Glameow or Noibat were altered in any way. only the textures were altered in most cases. and I think that's still true of SV except for a handful.
>the models are the same
I posted proof that they're not the same.
>posts [thing that's part of the model]
Yes. Where's the problem?
>painting a car makes it a new car
moron
>a red RAV4 is different from a silver RAV4
Correct.
It's the same car.
>posts texture
It's like SwSh leak season all over again
is the ho-oh on the right supposed to be better? he looks moronic.
Explain how these are more updated than the ones from Gen 5.
Because Lugia and Ho-Ohs heads have been adjusted along with their bodies to be closer to the Sugimori art
Anon, do you have any idea just how many items got their descriptions changed in Scarlet and Violet? Just the Sport Ball and the Tower Duo's feathers' is barely a ripple in the lake of flavor text these games threw up for almost every item obtainable in SV.
>Anon, do you have any idea just how many items got their descriptions changed in Scarlet and Violet?
post them.
Way too many to count. You can go to Bulbapedia and check just about any item. I've been trying to find one that was kept the same. Even unused items like Repels got a substantial update as though they were in the game, listing 'low-level Pokemon jumping at you' despite not existing.
The DNA splicers got an update pre-fusion for the first time.
[B2W2>SwSh]
>A splicer that fuses Kyurem and a certain Pokémon. They are said to have been one in the beginning.
[SV]
>A splicer that fuses Kyurem and a certain Pokémon. They are said to have originally been one.
An even funnier one from Unova that I can think of is the Normal Gem; it's so propagative of 'Normal' you'd think Larry told you about it.
[BW>SwSh]
>A gem with an ordinary essence. When held, it strengthens the power of a Normal-type move [only once(gen5)/one time(gen 6>8)].
[SV]
>An item to be held by a Pokémon. This gem is imbued with the essence of normalcy and will boost the power of a Normal-type move—but only once.
The only thing notable of OP is finally correcting the item name to being a feather rather than a whole ass wing, but the actual description is nothing special, like how similar to the Sport Ball, the Safari Ball similarly lists Kanto's Safari Zone and Sinnoh's Great Marsh.
Except lots of random items get updates. I believe a few Hoenn items got their descriptions updated past ORAS
Eon Ticket - https://www.serebii.net/itemdex/eonticket.shtml
Red Orb - https://www.serebii.net/itemdex/redorb.shtml
Blue Orb - https://www.serebii.net/itemdex/blueorb.shtml
Jade Orb - https://www.serebii.net/itemdex/jadeorb.shtml
Even Kalos items:
Charizardite X - https://www.serebii.net/itemdex/charizarditex.shtml
Honor of Kalos - https://www.serebii.net/itemdex/honorofkalos.shtml
So a few Unova items getting updated is to be expected, even key items. This is standard preparation for the future just like they did with the walking animations in Sun and Moon. But a huge, huge amount of Johto items got updated descriptions and overhauls, see
>Red Orb - https://www.serebii.net/itemdex/redorb.shtml
>Blue Orb - https://www.serebii.net/itemdex/blueorb.shtml
>Jade Orb - https://www.serebii.net/itemdex/jadeorb.shtml
these are also in johto, the jade orb being exclusive to it
Oh I suppose that's more evidence for it being an ILCA HGSS port
Were any Unova item names changed though? Especially ones as significant as key items? OP may have a point
They didn't change the names of the Rainbow and Silver "Wing" specifically, they changed the names of ALL the "wing" items from "(x) Wing" to "(x) Feather". (It's also not really a name change, just a localization change because the original localized name was a really dumb looking mistranslation)
So Anorith should have an updated Pokédex entry when they reuse it next time?
>The Rainbow Wing and Silver Wing were also renamed to be called the Rainbow Feather and Silver Feather
About fricking time. Why didn't they fix that mistranslation in HGSS when they were already fixing other shit like Tin Tower -> Bell Tower?
What is as light as a feather but weighs over 100 pounds?
Bell Tower is lame. Why didn't they fix Brass Tower also?
Because "Tin Tower" was corrected to "Bell Tower" specifically in HGSS, which never mentions the original name of the other tower. So there was nothing to fix in that game.
you need to take your meds
Lots of Johto only key items and items got renamed, see these!
SS Aqua ticket - https://www.serebii.net/itemdex/s.s.ticket.shtml
Mystery Egg (given at the start of the game) - https://www.serebii.net/itemdex/mysteryegg.shtml
Red Scale (you get this during the Red Gyarados event!) - https://www.serebii.net/itemdex/redscale.shtml
Super Rod - https://www.serebii.net/itemdex/superrod.shtml
Dowsing Mchn - https://www.serebii.net/itemdex/dowsingmchn.shtml
Berry Pots - https://www.serebii.net/itemdex/berrypots.shtml
Sacred Ash - https://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sacredash.shtml
Rage Candy Bar - https://www.serebii.net/itemdex/ragecandybar.shtml
Moomoo Milk - https://www.serebii.net/itemdex/moomoomilk.shtml
Berry Juice - https://www.serebii.net/itemdex/berryjuice.shtml
All of the Johto only Pokeballs got updated
Seal Case - https://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sealcase.shtml
Fashion Case - https://www.serebii.net/itemdex/fashioncase.shtml
To me this indicates either an ILCA HGSS port or Let's Go Johto or some other form of traditional Johto. It can't be a coincidence that this many Johto only items got updated
>ILCA HGSS port
That's too much to ask for nowadays. You'll get your Gold & Silver ports with no Crystal content and you will rike it.
Based ILCA speed running the downfall of the franchise
Actually, a GS remake (even without Crystal additions) is a much, much better option than a BDSP-style direct port of HGSS.
Firstly, it makes no sense to make a copy of a copy.
Secondly, a Johto game that includes all Hoenn and Sinnoh Pokemon but no new evos/forms of the Gen I and II mons makes absolutely no sense in post-Dexit era.
Thirdly, a direct remake of Gen II gives chance to restore some of the original content that got cut from HGSS and may be somewhat unpredictable when it comes to world and character design. IN a HGSS remake, everything is bound to be predictable and repetitive. Ironically, remaking the older game would bring much more freshness.
So, stop acting like ILCA HGSS is the better option. It's an absolutely worst option and would totally kill Johto's soul.
It'd be pretty shitty aside from getting early Phanpy and Teddiursa back.
>Firstly, it makes no sense to make a copy of a copy.
The copy is the definitive version.
>a Johto game that includes all Hoenn and Sinnoh Pokemon but no new evos/forms of the Gen I and II mons makes absolutely no sense in post-Dexit era.
Dexit is trash, so who cares?
>a direct remake of Gen II gives chance to restore some of the original content that got cut from HGSS and may be somewhat unpredictable when it comes to world and character design
It'd probably reuse assets from BDSP. And the only things HGSS cut were room customisation and the odd egg. Losing all of the great things it added so you can move around some dolls and get higher odds for a shiny Pokemon would be shit.
Dexit is reality, cope.
And having all those supposedly "great things" that HGSS added simply loses its sense when it's all gonna be a big fat direct repeat with virtually zero graphical progress. It's just pointless.
Also, Battle Frontier would get removed anyway.
>Dexit is reality, cope.
Doesn't mean it isn't trash THOUGH.
>And having all those supposedly "great things" that HGSS added simply loses its sense when it's all gonna be a big fat direct repeat with virtually zero graphical progress. It's just pointless.
But why have a repeat of Gen 2 without those things and nothing to replace it? They probably wouldn't even have the Kanto improvements HGSS had. If they bring the Kanto legendaries in, it'll probably be in a Ramanas Park type place.
GS is too barebones too make a remake of alone, that's why they added Crystal's story elements in the first place for HGSS. Any other revisit will likely borrow from Crystal in the same way HGSS did.
>ILCA HGSS port
Too much content for gamers.
Some of these aren't Johto only. But you've deconfirmed Johto remakes anyway. The Rage Candy Bar was turned into a key item in HGSS. Whether a Johto remake is based on HGSS or not, chances are that they'll keep it being a key item. But the SV description of it is:
>Mahogany Town's famous candy. It can be used to cure any status condition a Pokémon may have.
It's just a rewording of the Gen VII-Gen VIII description instead of being a key item.
>Some of these aren't Johto only.
My mistake I phrased it wrong. They're heavily associated with Johto at the very least like Moomoo Milk, Rage Candy Bar, etc...
I suppose time will tell but I believe I'm onto something here
RCB isn't available in SV however. Seems to me they might well have returned it to Key Item status, given you can't acquire it in other games. Are you trying to confirm they're happening? 'Cause you're doing a better job than dismissing their chances, no harm.
>RCB isn't available in SV however
All you need to do to make it available to attach to some random Pokemon for a mystery gift. They just didn't do it.
> Seems to me they might well have returned it to Key Item status, given you can't acquire it in other games.
Then it wouldn't have the description that it restores status effects. Which means it's just an item that they didn't bother distributing.
What game do you think it'll be?
It doesn't need to be done with a specific game in mind. Just look at the Sports Ball in the OP. Outside of Johto, you can only get it in Gens VIII and IX. But it got an updated description in Gens VI.
But that doesn't disprove anything. Yes it doesn't always indicate a remake, but pretty much every time before a remake a lot of item descriptions are updated, ready to be used. So while you're technically right, it's a moot point. Also you didn't answer my question of what game do you think they'll announce instead of a Johto game?
>it's a moot point
When it's being said that traditional Johto remakes are definitely happening, it's not a moot point at all.
>Also you didn't answer my question of what game do you think they'll announce instead of a Johto game?
I don't know what they'll announce. Could be Johto, could be anything. But thinking that remakes (or a Legends game) are definitely happening because they changed some item descriptions is stupid, and very reminiscent of Hoenn fans somehow being convinced a remake was happening in Gen V.
And? It wasn't added in Gen 4 until HGSS, where its entire presence was reworked into a key item, before being changed for the following games. It's not in SV, just like Gen 4, leaving the door open for them to rework it as a key item again, before adding it to the games.
If changing the item descriptions was proof that a Johto remake was happening and they were prepping for it, then it wouldn't have an updated item description asserting it's role outside of Johto. You can't have it both ways.
>"Mahogany Town's famous candy. It can be used to cure any status condition a Pokémon may have."
>Has nothing to do with Johto
>"Mahogany Town"
Ummm... Anon...
In HGSS it's not a consumable item. It's role outside of Johto is that of an item that restores all status conditions. Even in the original GSC, it restored 20HP.
>This item behaved this way in these 2 games
>That means they can't ever change the way it works in any future game because... well... because, ok?!?!?
>Not to mention we're in an era where they're struggling to make games without taking shortcuts such as not adding tiny details such as this
This thread was made because of the belief that them changing it was for Johto remake. If they were prepping item descriptions for Johto, why would they unnecessarily change the description of an item that would immediately get changed again?
Because sometimes in remakes things aren't identical. Just like in BDSP they changed the underground to be a glorified Legendary catching park or how contests were changed
They changed Pal Park to be the leggo hub, they expanded the underground to have biomes for pokémon.
You're completely missing my point that remakes change and remove a lot of things and Game Freak have a lot of redundant, inefficient ways of operating and developing. It's clear you're just going to rationalize whatever I say so let's just wait and see shall we?
But remakes don't change the story, of COURSE they're going to change parts of the region up if they have a good idea. Beats just adding the old game hall building with a "soz, closed lol" note on it. You're flat-out ignoring my point, if they wanted to remake Kanto for LGPE, they would have. They didn't, thus if they revisit Johto, it's more than likely they remake it akin to LGPE and have new MC's and the OG cast as endgame bosses.
There's also this which is the only realistic leak I've seen, because it didn't seem to be a wishlist written by some 20-25 year old desperate for his childhood to be treated as special. And that smacks of adapting LGPE's GO connectivity out while keeping the premise. But sure, we'll wait and see. Don't bother b***hing if they show off new MC's, you'll know I told you.
I wrote that leak can't believe so many reatrds are buying it kek. I ripped the sticker from some Spanish romhack
Sounds like cope to me. Just accept that you had the wrong idea about with them changing item descriptions. It doesn't mean Johto remakes won't happen at some point.
>Let's Go Johto
I'm betting it'll be some flavour of this. They didn't remake Kanto straight when it came time to re-remake it, I don't know why people are saying they're going to straight remake Johto for its re-remake.
It will be a ILCA remake based on HGSS (as ILCA have experiences with porting DS games but not GBC) followed by a Unova game. we will get a re-run of the celebi and spike-eared Pichu event.
They had one chance to make Legends Johto and they fricked it up
OP you may be right that Johto content is coming at some point, but this doesn't necessarily prove that Johto is NEXT. If ILCA make a BW remake that come first then any updated item descriptions wouldn't show up in Game Freaks updated code since that would be on their branch of the Pokémon engine in Unity
Why does everyone think ILCA games are guaranteed, how do we know it wasn't just a horrible one-off?
It is easier than outsourcing a new game to keep cycle.
Because it's better to expect the more underwhelming, more realistic option since Pokémon is a yearly franchise
So, in essence, doomhomosexualry? Not saying you're wrong but that's what it is.
meant for
, also.
Yes I guess. I want Legends Johto but I think we're getting something else.
>Pokémon day
>We are still hard at work making Pokémon games for the future. New year we will have lots of cool things to show off.
Seems unlikely.
>If ILCA make a BW remake
They won't. There won't be a Gen 5 remake, as they're ALWAYS one-a-system. Last 4 consoles Pokémon's appeared on got one remake apiece, why do you think they'll break that pattern?
The switch already got two tho, lgpe and bdsp
LGPE wasn't a remake, didn't you play either of RG/B or FRLG? No c**t called Chase in them and Masuda went on record to distinguish them from the Gen 3 remakes as reimaginings.
This is how they're gonna play it, yes it was an excuse to remake Kanto for Switch, especially now the gambling age rating is an automatic 18's and they weren't releasing the old roms any longer. But it was too AU to be a remake as we know them, which re-tell the story of the original in a modern game (Again, donut steel MC+Rival, the canon protag and secondaries older than their canon starting age, where the plot first happened). Which points to them making a deliberate choice to not just remake the old game by rote, thus possibly adding them to their M.O. the way actual remakes got added to first Gens on new hardware - AU retelling of old game as a bye-bye.
I don't recall them using the word remake to refer to every remake they ever made. Every remake deviate from the sauce material at least to extend.
I do. Masuda said they had no plans to remake RSE after FRLG/HGSS but they then went on to after seeing fans talk about them online. When it came time to talk turkey about LGPE, he distinctly said they were a reimagining of Yellow (so not even the core game of Kanto) and avoided all mention of the word remake.
And no, every remake tells the story of the original protag completing the canon events of the original games. The details differ in as much that GF wanted to modernise the things as well as remake them, but they didn't change the core story or protag until LGPE (SM/USM had a 20 yo Red as reference to the series 20th anniversary remember?). Meaning the redo of Johto will likely follow the same route, because it's not Kanto and if they didn't slavishly remake Kanto for its last appearance, what makes you think Johto's important enough to get one?
Did they ever refer to HGSS and ORAS as remakes? Remakes always reimagine.
I love Johto so much bros
It has my favorite pokemon and I hope they give him a buff like finally giving him earth power or thunderbolt. He's a good boy and he deserves it
>muh soul
you dont deserve anything
schizo thread
Alright but Kitakami has more similarities to Sinnoh Id say
It's like Sinjoh
The game is a a modified version of Gen 2 adding Dudunsparse, Farigirag, Ursaluna, and Wyrdeer in the four unused index numbers, listed as number ????? in the Pokedex. Has differently arranged availability, but you still need to trade.
Meds
Enjoy your Pokemon Scat/Vomit(oilet) 2, Unovaborts and Johtoddlers kek
>textures are now part of the model according to shils
>people other than me know what models are
wow
>yeah broski we painted the car red so now it has also a new engine and tires
>yeah broski we painted the car red so now it's a different product which is why we sell the car in different colors
correct
>mod·el
>noun
>1. a three-dimensional representation of a person or thing or of a proposed structure, typically on a smaller scale than the original
That’s weird…it doesn’t say “excluding its texture” anywhere…
Gamefreak is Japanese company not english.
We’re speaking in English.
Good for you.
>yeah broski we advertised a new engine and tires but only painted it differently so its fair
>yeah broski we advertised a new color so that’s why it’s a different product
correct
>Traditional Johto remakes
Yeah keep telling yourself that.
But I don't want traditional Johto remakes, that's what I said in the OP. I want a Legends or Johto prequel/sequel/another game set in Johto that isn't Let's Go or alternate universe style