Cyrus is clearly depressed, claims to want to swipe emotions off the face of Earth and that he shall guide this change because he freed himself of the chains of feelings, but the very fact that he hates emotions so vehemently proves that he still feels so much and that's what's causing him suffering.
He's projecting his own incapacity to handle negative emotions in a healthy way onto the entire world, wishing to destroy it to be free of his own emotional suffering.
This is why in Platinum he decides to stay willingly in Giratina's world, because there he can truly aspire to stop listening to his own emotions and feels free from them.
Lysandre has a God-like Superiority Complex and is overly obsessed with the ephemeral nature of live. Everything is bound to change eventually and that's what made him paranoid, after realizing that no matter how hard you try, you simply cannot be the "change you want to see in the world" if you keep playing by rules like anyone else.
This paranoia fed into his God Complex and peaked with him believing that his calling in life is to preserve time as it is now, and in order to do this he's ready to do anything to crystallize the present into eternity, whether it's by granting eternal life or destroying the entire world. In both cases, what you get is for time to never truly pass, thus 'saving' it in Lysandre's eyes.
Though I think this plot works better in Y than in X. If X Lysandre succeeded in his plan, I believe that at some point he'd get paranoid again when he realizes that making everything eternal doesn't change the flaws he sees in society.
I think even X Lysandre at some point would resort to search for Yveltal and destroy everything.
>being forced to stay alive as everyone you ever loved die
There's a reason only villains want immortality, anon, anyone sane would go batshit insane with immortality.
Not only that, but you'd also have an hard time bonding with anyone else, since their life would be so short compared to yours. It would probably be a very lonely experience past a few centuries
Not only that, but you'd also have an hard time bonding with anyone else, since their life would be so short compared to yours. It would probably be a very lonely experience past a few centuries
Living for ever with certain brain capacity, limitations and fears. Could be a curse, anon. To live forever doesn't mean you'll be indestructible. Each year the probability of being struck by a lightning or something worse could increase. You'll survive of course, But the pain would be there forever.
AZ was wracked with guilt because his eternal life came at the cost of thousands of other human and Pokemon life, just to selfishly revive his Floette, who left him in disappointment. It's not really the same.
I think you’re heavily underestimating how much of a curse true immortality is. I’d rather instantly die than become immortal for billions of trillions of years and have to float around in space alone.
Doesn't he only make you immortal when you've already stopped him?
He wants to make you immortal so that you'll "wait forever for a beautiful world".
He's basically telling you to stay miserable forever.
The idea that immortality is bad comes from people who either lack imagination or are too afraid of letting go. On the latter case, everything comes to an end, but that can also lead to new beginnings. On the former, there's so much stuff to do on Earth let alone the entire rest of the universe, you'll never have to deal with the tedium of immortality. Basically, living forever is awesome and death is for cowards.
>the world is going to shit and I was going to save it >but you stopped me >and now I curse you to live forever in a dying world so that you witness the consequences of your actions
I can see why HE thinks it's a bad thing.
>accomplish nothing in your life >unironically be a NEET
a fate worse than death kek. have a nice day now you fricking loser so your parents can save the money
Lysandre is the worst villain for a reason.
no cyrus is worse
Cyrus is at least believably mentally ill.
Cyrus is clearly depressed, claims to want to swipe emotions off the face of Earth and that he shall guide this change because he freed himself of the chains of feelings, but the very fact that he hates emotions so vehemently proves that he still feels so much and that's what's causing him suffering.
He's projecting his own incapacity to handle negative emotions in a healthy way onto the entire world, wishing to destroy it to be free of his own emotional suffering.
This is why in Platinum he decides to stay willingly in Giratina's world, because there he can truly aspire to stop listening to his own emotions and feels free from them.
Lysandre has a God-like Superiority Complex and is overly obsessed with the ephemeral nature of live. Everything is bound to change eventually and that's what made him paranoid, after realizing that no matter how hard you try, you simply cannot be the "change you want to see in the world" if you keep playing by rules like anyone else.
This paranoia fed into his God Complex and peaked with him believing that his calling in life is to preserve time as it is now, and in order to do this he's ready to do anything to crystallize the present into eternity, whether it's by granting eternal life or destroying the entire world. In both cases, what you get is for time to never truly pass, thus 'saving' it in Lysandre's eyes.
Though I think this plot works better in Y than in X. If X Lysandre succeeded in his plan, I believe that at some point he'd get paranoid again when he realizes that making everything eternal doesn't change the flaws he sees in society.
I think even X Lysandre at some point would resort to search for Yveltal and destroy everything.
discord post
You'll understand when you get older.
>le bad because media says bad
Grow up
Absolute cope
You shitpost here every day and I'm not seeing you going insane about it
>not seeing you going insane about it
Anon... have you seen this board?
I think being 17 forever would have been pretty shitty yeah, also consider AZ lived for 3000 years with nothing but regrets
>being forced to stay alive as everyone you ever loved die
There's a reason only villains want immortality, anon, anyone sane would go batshit insane with immortality.
Not only that, but you'd also have an hard time bonding with anyone else, since their life would be so short compared to yours. It would probably be a very lonely experience past a few centuries
The words of someone whose never experienced tragedy. Humans move on.
mortalkek cope
Living for ever with certain brain capacity, limitations and fears. Could be a curse, anon. To live forever doesn't mean you'll be indestructible. Each year the probability of being struck by a lightning or something worse could increase. You'll survive of course, But the pain would be there forever.
AZ sure didn't like it.
AZ was wracked with guilt because his eternal life came at the cost of thousands of other human and Pokemon life, just to selfishly revive his Floette, who left him in disappointment. It's not really the same.
a fricking pokémon game's narrative using one of the oldest tropes in the book was too intelligent for anon
Especially the one that everyone particularly criticises for a bad story
I think you’re heavily underestimating how much of a curse true immortality is. I’d rather instantly die than become immortal for billions of trillions of years and have to float around in space alone.
X isn't the canon version so it doesn't matter
I wish I was immortal, to see everyone I hate die
If Lysandre won then yeah being immortal would suck. That means spending your life knowing you failed to stop a genocide.
Doesn't he only make you immortal when you've already stopped him?
He wants to make you immortal so that you'll "wait forever for a beautiful world".
He's basically telling you to stay miserable forever.
the whole, theres no beauty/life without death etc
The only person who'd want to be 11 forever is the exact kind of person that needs the rope.
>was this supposed to be a bad thing?
Yes. Holy frick yes how young are you?
The idea that immortality is bad comes from people who either lack imagination or are too afraid of letting go. On the latter case, everything comes to an end, but that can also lead to new beginnings. On the former, there's so much stuff to do on Earth let alone the entire rest of the universe, you'll never have to deal with the tedium of immortality. Basically, living forever is awesome and death is for cowards.
>you lack imagination bro
>just enjoy floating in space after the sun consumes the earth for trillions upon trillions upon trillions of years bro
You're the expert, I guess.
>the world is going to shit and I was going to save it
>but you stopped me
>and now I curse you to live forever in a dying world so that you witness the consequences of your actions
I can see why HE thinks it's a bad thing.
Who the frick wants to live forever? The second my parents die I'm offing myself
>accomplish nothing in your life
>unironically be a NEET
a fate worse than death kek. have a nice day now you fricking loser so your parents can save the money
what could go wrong if all 6 billion people on earth become immortal but can still reproduce
>Was this supposed to be a bad thing?
Have you ever watched Dead Zone?