Triple AAA devs like the ones who made diablo 4 are saying we shouldn’t expect high quality like Baldurs gate 3 because it’s an anomaly
Do you agree with this?
https://gameworldobserver.com/2023/07/12/baldurs-gate-3-new-standard-for-rpg-genre-opinions
>cuck devs put together more polished games than nu-blizzard
Embarrassing
Honestly speaking, I would feel ashamed to be taken a picture, let alone a video, of me with that thing.
You can tell the women especially is disappointed when faced with the reality that she is in part responsible for ushering in.
That monstrosity left Blizzard and works at Riot now.
She was getting too much sexual harassment, very sad story
;'(
Wtf Kevin Vanord is working on BG3? Crazy, still remember him from his Gamespot days so many years ago
I agree with it in a sense that it won't become the norm. Studios make due with what they have, and every subsequent game in a genre isn't the new best game in the genre.
That said. If he situations that result in the game being apparently so much better than every other game, maybe try and emulate the situations and we'll get more incredible games more often.
AAA RPGs have longer development times and already established engines (Dragon Age , Elder Scrolls , etc).
I legit don't understand where you think the difference is
>I legit don't understand where you think the difference is
Part of it is that BG3 has already paid for itself and then some before even coming out, with at least some of that extra cash going to not just more development, but allowing the devs to just do what they wanted, since they've already got the money for it. Larian's Early Access scheme for game releases can help alleviate pressure on developers, since the extra cash lets them increase their studio personnel to meet the issues they have in development more easily, and they have to worry less about the project not making any money.
That is the major difference between Larian's recent games and other developers. It also has helped a lot that this is the game Larian's been wanting to make since the first Divinity Original Sin game at least.
Also that they actually worked very closely with the early access community when making the game. They basically just did things the right way, which required more time and work, but it’s going to pay off in the end. Everyone else just wants to shortcut to the end and fix it after launch at best.
the difference is Larian hangs onto developers and treats them well instead of crunching them to death and making them burn out of the industry
Seeing other devs seething at the game was the best advertising I have ever seen.
I mean, I was already going to get the game but now I want it to break sales records
Who is seething?
Reminds me of when western devs were seething at Elden Ring
>putting a lot of hard work and passion into gaming project is an anomaly
yeah, we know, that 95% of devs are just lazy homosexuals who want to sell as much as possible with as little effort as possible
>p-please i-its just a fluke t. increasingly nervous shitdevs
I agree that we shouldn't expect as high quality as BG3.
we should expect HIGHER quality.
lazy corpo frauds are afraid because comparisons with their slop will invariably arise.
This dude looks like a fricking Tactician!
I am fine with longer dev time and less games if they have more quality
>I am fine with longer dev time and less games if they have more quality
The problem is exactly that, they don't want to deliver quality.
They want to take 5+ years to make one big Game as a Service that is always online, P2W, filled with lootboxes and microtransactions, while also being so bland and generic that it can try to appeal to every person in the planet.
>They want to take 5+ years to make one big Game as a Service that is always online, P2W, filled with lootboxes and microtransactions, while also being so bland and generic that it can try to appeal to every person in the planet.
while also having less features then the games made before it
>while also having less features then the games made before it
That is because inovation is the same as risk in the executives eyes, so game developers are only allowed to do things that are proven to work. This is why most big game are shooters with a battle pass and a battle royale mode.
not our problem
This is why I buy maybe like 3 new games a year.
bg3 really doesnt look good at all
is it just the graphics? is that what people are shilling about
Its just a really good cRPG because they listened to the feedback and remade a ton of content.
Dont care about graphics, my 1050ti cant play on anything other than low with DDL.
Sucks that you dont like it though, oh well, your loss
No, it's the gameplay. Larian RPGs have more player freedom and reactivity than any other. They set a new standard.
>Larian RPGs
I dunno about BG3, but as you're using the plural form - DOS2 is not even remotely close to the reactivity of Age of Decadence.
>They hated him, for he laid bare their failings for all to see
I dunno, Diablo 4's first season where sometimes you get to do a wave defense so you can get more gems to fill up your stash is pretty epic
I mean think of how many nightmare dungeons you can run which can get you 825 item power items which are literally the same as 725 item power items
I mean you can get to level 50 in diablo, an "MMO" with zero ability to group with random people to do anything even though the previous game let you switch between matchmaking and private simply by toggling a drop down..
But those are the kind of unrealistic expectations Larian is setting. God damn them,
Don’t forget that in season 1 your entire progression is the battlepass which just makes you look cooler while you grind dungeons to fill the battlepass so you can look cooler while you grind dungeons to fill the battlepass so you can look cooler while you grind dungeons to fill the battlepass…..
>Triple AAA
>AAAAAAAAA
Exactly my reaction whenever I play these games
I had to count before getting it
I don't understand why what he's talking about is impossible for other studios assuming it outputs games that make money back.
This homie is backed by Microsoft
That guy designed fallout new vegas. Now he's working at a soulless corporate job where creativity is not allowed. It's all about extracting as much money as possible while investing the least amount of money in your product. Reputation be dammed
He cruised on the work of one of the handful of writers who didn't sniff his own farts all the time but opened a book every now and then. After backstabing Avellone he was exposed as the fraud that he is.
What a homosexual. His game is gonna have 2 playable races and very limited scope, no wonder he's already shitting his pants about BG3.
he has nothing to do with Avowed, as far as I'm aware. He's just off in his corner making visual novels now
>AAAAAA
>It's an impossible standard and Larian just got lucky and they also have a big team and they have lots of money and
I don't appreciate the idea that BG3 is somehow guaranteed to be the be-all-end-all of RPGs. Like what if the final product ends up being a 7/10? Are all RPG developers going to throw up their hands and say "well I guess you have to expect all RPGs from now on to be 6/10 at best?"
>Isometric Perspective games
BOOOORIIING
t. Fortnite Zoomer
This is a psyop to viral market the game btw
>DUDE ITS A HECKIN ANOMALY!!!!! ITS SO UNREALISTICALLY GOOD BRO
suck my dick
Yeah. I don't even know what they're talking about. Just like... wow so many dialogue trees? I have no idea.
>competitors running marketing for the competition
moron
Compare this to devs creaming their pants over BotW. You see how this works? Treating an asset flip with the same map as the second coming of Christ so they themselves can get away with a lazy product. When a studio shows initiative and enthusiasm, that is to be discouraged.
Yes. Gays are an anomaly. I do agree.
they've realized that Larian's method of actually treating their developers well and building up a strong team of experienced devs who work well together actually pays off, and they want to keep treating their devs like disposable cogs that churn out one game then go into non-vidya software development.
I guess I'll try my luck in this thread.
So I have very minimal knowledge of dnd and I want to build a hybrid mage/warrior character. In Pathfinder kangmaker it was actually possible thanks to magus. But from what I can tell magus doesn't exist in bg3. So like am I forced into being pure melee/caster? Don't say shit like "just take 6 fighter 6 wizard dyd" I actually want a strong character.
Paladin is the closest thing to an actual spellsword in 5E, but you could also go Swords Bard or Eldritch Knight Fighter. Or use the mod that adds in Bladesinging Wizard
Always end up passing on Paladin because I don't think I can keep my vows throughout the game. Is oathbreaker actually a viable option or just a meme?
This is embarrassing because I didn't even bother checking fighter subclasses thinking all of them would be melee. So Eldritch Knight seems like what I was looking for. Why is no one talking about this though?
So you can wear armor, throw fireballs and hit with swords? What is the catch?
>So you can wear armor, throw fireballs and hit with swords? What is the catch?
Only so many points to spread, and you need STR, DEX, and CON right? But yeah if you stick to spells with no modifier you can mitigate that. Spellcasting is also tough in the middle of melee right? Of course War Caster is godly for this.
The catch is you only get one third of the wizard spell progression and take much longer to learn new spells.
Now that i think about it, Eldritch Knight at max level (12) stops just before learning 3rd level spells, which is unfortunate.
Eldritch Knight
Eldritch Knight works just fine.
Arguably the strongest fighter, despite everyone only paying attention to Battle Master.
You'll only be disappointed if you're expecting something like BG2 fighter/mage.
we'll see. it smells like marketing to me
I wasn’t very hype for this game until AAA devs started complaining about how it’s not fair how good it is. I will buy just to help damage their mental health.
Does BG3 still have Larian dialogue? Divinity 2 was downright unplayable because I kept cringing every five minutes.
Yeah, you should play something else and ignore threads like this from now on.
It has a female narrator.
Female. Narrator.
The people in charge of the writing thought it was a good idea to have a female, a woman, try to narrate an ostensibly serious story.
That should tell you everything you need to know about the quality of the writing.
i didnt mind the female narrator from POE2 but this one's voice is pretty shit, honestly
I hate Millennial writing, but I don't get where people are coming from when they say that DOS2 was a jokefest. It had jokes, but it had plenty of series garbage in it, too. Did you idiots miss all the shit with the bug people raping everyone like something out of Berserk?
they just get stuck on NO ONE HAS AS MANY FRIENDS AS THE MAN WITH MANY CHEESES and think the whole game is like that
No, it's not just the jokes. Even the serious parts were rough to try and get through. More over, the contrast between the humor and serious parts were incredibly jarring. You can add levity to a serious story, but it works better in a game like Fallout where it uses a lot of dark humor. A lot of the jokes in DOS2 were like awful internet jokes.
I truly don't get what your problem is, so maybe you can explain it better. I mean, I had my own problems with DOS2's writing:
>too easy to get hooked into a gay relationship
>too many edgy scenes
>atheist GODS AREN'T REAL bullshit
>companions don't interact
But the flippancy you guys are complaining about . . . I just don't see it at all.
>Coomers
>Those who like soap operas
>LGBT punk-ish people
>Twitch streamers
>Cosplayers
Devs need to stop catering toward these audiences. Once they do that, the actual artistic quality in games skyrockets.
They keep trying to be Dragon Age. That's what's wrong.
You know the industry is in a piss poor state when the companies/devs just flat out tell you: "Yes we are making shit games, no we don't care, now shut the frick up and just consume the slop"
That sounds a lot like Nintendo.
Modern game industry have made a career out of trying to gaslight people into accepting things are shit and they always will be so shut up chud!
>Baldur's Gate 3
>high quality
seethe and cope
Don’t care.
The game has a dumb over the top opening.
I hate space squid shit in my DnD games (not that DnD isn’t already stupendously cringe).
The whole alien worm thing is gay and moronic.
Watch them give you the option of becoming a gay space squid too
>options are bad
Can you still romance your brain worm?
kinda
So yea? Isn’t the guardian your mental ideal the parasite uses to take advantage of you?
Could be that.