turns out todd wasnt lying, cells are continuous
redditor found out that the map markers were taking too much space on the map and he disabled them via console commands and this allowed him to land in a cell close enough to see new atlantis in the distance
thoughts Ganker?
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Mods will fix this.
Is there a mod that makes the markers 75% smaller and removes the animations?
>outsourcing to modders
the bethesda strategy since oblivion
I remember when that leaker was making it look like you couldn't see cities from other cells and that you also couldn't swim. You really can't trust anything online.
To be fair he was playing on console
>and that you also couldn't swim
is there underwater swimming?
No, swimming is like walking except your perspective is like a foot lower. It's bizarre, you can jump into water from high up and when you land in the water you don't even dip down for a second, it's like you just landed on land. It's not like bethesda is rockstar that took however many years to figure out swimming, they've had it for ages. But now it's reduced to this. I really hope some rogue employees tell us more about what the frick happened with the development of this game.
Its the same engine as the games that all had swimming for decades, how did they lose it? How did we go all the way back to TES:Arena style surface bobbing?
I seriously have no good explanation for it other than maybe they couldn't get underwater terrain generation right
They don't want to bother with aquatic biomes, which to be fair would have to be more vast than land biomes due to how much easier life develops in water.
This needs to be up voted to front page. The misinformation against this game has been insane and unfair tbh. Imagine being a Bethesda developer spending 7 years on this game only for people to bash it with completely untrue claims whilst you yourself are not allowed to refute them.
I would like to see someone actually now do this with a settlement or something too then.
See if you can see it from beyond the boundary.
Then why the frick is the game walled to ten minute walks? Cells have been a thing since Morrowind in 2003. If Toddler can't fricking make Space Morrowind, what the frick is his team doing?
Wonder if it has to do with getting too far from your ship.
But you can fast travel from where you are to a planet elsewhere depending on the distance from you. So why is a ship an issue? Also it's gay that when you clear the planet any squares you generate can be marked as cleared by scanning the landmarks
outsourcing to 27 foreign studios
Probably because that would require loading multiple cells and Xbox can't handle that. The PC version is just a shitty port just like all other Beth games in the last 20 years.
Todd never lies.
probably a remnant from before they gave up on this ancient piece of shit engine
>turns out todd wasnt lying, cells are continuous
with console commands*
so normalgays won't even be able to see it
Redditors are out here sucking each other off over this, but it really just makes me question wtf is going on at Bethesda even more. They went to the trouble of having a contiguous tile system across the planet, but then designed landing in such a way that it’s impossible to travel to adjacent tiles through normal gameplay. Is it just incompetence or what?
My speculation is
>Todd planned to make his dream space game with full procedural planets you can fly across and flying between planets manually
Scenario A:
>was told that his game needs to be a streamlined big seller because xbox has nothing else and he's owned by microsoft now
>hammer the game into a shape that he thinks will have more wide appeal and/or get rushed into releasing something less than you originally envisioned
Scenario B:
>realized they just didn't know how to do everything he wanted in their engine, mechanics roughly left in because they don't want to scrap months of work but systems are built around them
It's probably the second. You literally have a grav-jump fuel bar on your HUD that is WORTHLESS because you instantly refuel after a jump.
That's to prevent you from making infinite air jumps. Like while you're in the air you just keep going up and up. And I think an air jump takes up half a bar so if you exhaust it, land for just a second and jump again you can only do 1 air jump and not two. You can argue it's not very thought out but it does serve a function.
No, Anon. I mean the Helium-3 bar when you're in your ship. You can attach ballasts that let your ship carry more Helium-3 fuel too. And it exists for NO reason, because grav-jumps don't even consume it.
Oh yeah that's stupid then. I haven't done much star jumping so I wasn't aware of it.
It's so stupid. The even bar changes when you select different systems to calculate how much fuel it would've consumed, if the mechanic was inplemented.
Really just seems like they gutted a ton of mechanics out of the game. Another thing, and this is much more speculative, is I think they may have actually planned to have seamless planet travel originally. I say this because they've clearly done a lot of work on improving loading times, I think this game loads faster than skyrim sometimes. If they had super fast loading they could just make your ship take off, fly through a cloud layer to distort the screen for a few seconds, and then boom you're in space. There would still be some smoke and mirrors, but you'd never have a hard cut.
I was having 0.4 second load times, I think you might actually be right. Must not have panned out on the Xbox.
I bet they had an oxygen system and that provided a soft barrier from going to far from your ship. So if you got that you may as well cut back the cell loading and use those resources else where. But then they realized normalgays hate having a timer no matter how generous it is. So they cut that but they already limited the space and they didn't want to waste time reworking it again.
I almost laughed out loud when I realized the oxygen meter is just a fricking sprint meter. The MC is regularly depriving himself of oxygen and giving himself CO2 poisoning to sprint
I vaguely remember Todd mentioning that they originally had a fuel system, but then decided that it wasn’t fun and got rid of it. I could see it being implemented if they release a survival mode type difficulty like FO4 had.
If that's true, then all Todd did to "get rid of it" was make it so you get instant refuels, while leaving in dozens of useless features around it.
Yes, it's given a location near the end of the Terramorph questline. You learn where they come from there.
Cool I assumed it would be a DLC or something
How big is it?
It was like 3-4 small-ish sections split up by loading screens, not sure if you could ignore the quest and walk over it. It's bigger than Neon, although there's basically nothing present but loot.
I can definitely see modders taking a crack at restoring some of these mechanics and otherwise removing the training wheels on the engine that Bethesda added for no discernible reason, but what I really want to see is expanded stuff in space for a viable spacer run where you can avoid ever landing on planets
I think modders will unlock a lot of potential of this game. Implementing a system like this would probably be too much for modders, but if it already exists and just needs some tweaks that makes it far more feasible
I'd vote for the second. I'd say A, if it wasn't for No Man's Sky existing. Normies would buy into a NMS on the Xbox if they claimed they did it 'better' and Xbox would love to have something like that too.
MS bought Bethesda late in starfield's development, anything left was polish, not major gameplay reworks
The purchase was known about well in advance by those in charge. GaaS stuff like Redfall and F76 were forced on studios by zenimax, probably to make them more enticing for microsoft and to force out a better price, since GaaS were the hot thing then.
Looks like another case of slowly bleeding out to focus testing and dealing with the series s
Now just let me walk there seamlessly.
>Now just let me walk there seamlessly
no can do bud this game isn't available for ps5
Looks like dogshit. Xbox 360 games with better depth of field.
>Looks like dogshit
Every Bethesda game ever. The gameplay is also mind numbingly boring. What do people see in their games?
todd has completely mind broken the snoyim. the entire catalog has been overrun by their seething
i hate sony, microsoft, and nintendo
what now moron?
the snoyim is as transparent as fresh water, don't try to lie snoy, you're out of your depth
have a nice day you corporate slave
settle down bud I know it's rough not having todds games on PS5 anymore but don't shit up the catalog with your snoyish seething
>buzzword buzzword
Op's post just means PC players have to mod and fix Todd's mess. Starfield is not coming to playstation, ever
>Starfield is not coming to playstation, ever
now we're making progress, accept reality and your station in life, snoy
CELLS INTERLINKED
Cells interlinked
>How does it feels that BG3gays are shilling en masse on Ganker? Interlinked.
Not only is there a whole lot of nothing, but there's a whole lot of GENERATED nothing. Thanks so much Todd! Now I can spend the next 25 years in my spaceship flying to Neptune in real time
Is there literally ANY other proof that tiles are contiguous other than the ONE noticeable landmark that the devs probably handpicked to make observable from nearby tiles?
Any at all? Like, one example that people keep reposting doesn't account for the rest of the game, does it? Genuinely curious to see if this applies to any other landmark.
I would install the Border Removal mod and copy what the Redditor did to check if it has the same terrain as the real New Atlantis, but sadly I refunded the game.
If someone else proves they're genuinely continuous, I renounce all my shitposts.
Is Londinium in the game?
>the game is only functional if you disable the shitty ui
is this supposed to sell me on the game?
I don't mind needing to fast travel, but I hate that it's just a bunch of different cutscenes to do it. It should at least let me pick a destination and then seemlessly fly there without any cutscenes so I at least feel like I'm traveling somewhere
The fact it's literally cutscenes is so fricking lazy
Yeah I agree. If it all worked via fast travel like it does now but there were no hard cuts I'd be way more forgiving of the system, even if I still ultimately would not be a fan of it.
Ten years behind Minecraft. I do think in time mods will make the game great but yet again the preorder crowd foots the bill. It's been out for a few minute and have not seen one exciting thing about it
I'd rather run Elite dangerous
I get why they made the traversal the way it is, as no one is actually going to run around a planet in its entirety, except for key areas, but it still doesn't make it any less jarring and immersion braking knowing that the only option to travel beyond is going back to your ship, considering other titles did this in a more seamless way.
its pretty obvious it was disabled for perfomance issues, gamebryo is janky as shit
Isn't it some kind of 'updated' version now?