>Additionally, the installation and access to downloadable content (DLC) will be unavailable.
https://www.ubisoft.com/en-gb/help/gameplay/article/decommissioning-of-online-services-september-2022/000102396
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This is why I don't buy Ubishit games.
Wrong. You dont buy them because they're shit games.
This right here.
Even without this online service bullshit the games themselves are garbage.
Not even worth pirating.
You know that online stuff costs a frickton of money, right? How much do you think ubisoft spends on servers monthly? 10 bucks, or something?
not my problem
how much are they saving a few pennies? a nickel?
Don't care much about the multiplayer services but denying you access to DLC you paid for is fricked.
pretty much this.
teach me your pirating ways
>agree to EULA
>Surprisedpikachuface.jpg when it gets enforced
Whatever.
reminder that EULAs get thrown out in court all the time. It's a wishlist from the developers and means absolutely nothing.
Ubisoft will get absolutely destroyed by entities that care about consumer rights, like the EU.
>reminder that EULAs get thrown out in court all the time
>and as always not one single fricking eample was given
Then let's go. Sue them for it. Have fun getting torn apart in court yeh mighty internet warrior.
no one needs to sue them. EU does it automatically
They don't unless you b***h at your nations consumer protection who then forward it to the EU if it's in another country. Which will take a couple years.
thats only the case if theres no precedence. In this case, they just refer to the precedent and ship Ubisoft a massive fine, and tell them to stop unless they want to get banned in the EU.
>another day naother burger who knows absolutley nothing but tries his hardest to fit in
Toppest of keks
epic larping as someone who knows better without actually providing counter arguments or proof
trolling used to mean something other than shitting yourself and saying "woah it stinks here"
Valve was forced to add a refund feature to Steam, because their EULA that said "no refund" meant jack shit in court
Who is going to sue ubisoft for online services being shut down? Who cares about video games that much?
That's a nice catch, no one actually cares about ubisoft games.
No. They were pressured by French and German authorities to ensure a suitable alternative to the EU right of withdrawal would be in place if they were to ask consumers to waive that right, which is a legal possibility the EU gives software vendors because of a disproportionate ease with which the right of withdrawal could be abused for that particular market sector.
The idea was that they had damn better make sure they had an alternative that upheld the SPIRIT of that legal right - i.e. the ability for consumers to inspect the product they purchased through a distance sale, before being fully committed to the purchase - or France and Germany promised, dressed up in politically correct wording, that they'd come gunning for them with every legal tool available to them.
Valve took an L in response and came up with their refund program.
So what you are saying is that Valve was forced to add a refund a refund feature to Steam, because their EULA that said "no refund" would mean jack shit in court?
EULA doesn't mean T&Cs. Valve is for all intents and purposes running an online store for digital content. the EULA for the steam software itself doesn't matter in this context. What matters is the Steam subscriber agreement or whatever it's called.
>because their EULA that said "no refund" would mean jack shit in court?
No. Rather the exact opposite: because their EULA which says "you waive the right of withdrawal" (and thus your right to a no-questions-asked refund) actually WOULD hold up in court, by the letter, and France and Germany wouldn't have that.
Why do you people always say this when there was only one instance with a vaguely written eula?
It's all those cucks have left after laughing at everyone who warned them what will happen if they buy into the fricking download store shit.
They get now the very thing anyone with a brain told them will happen.
https://linustechtips.com/topic/953835-you-own-the-software-that-you-purchase-and-any-claims-otherwise-are-urban-myth-or-corporate-propaganda/
reminder that you do not understand EULAs at all
they are contracts, it does not mean that literally all contracts aren't legally enforceable if a few contracts are deemed illegal
it's a post-purchase "contract" that strongarms consumers into accepting terms that are illegal to enforce, rendering them null and void in the eyes of the law.
They only exist in order to gaslight the consumer. EU takes EULAs and shoves them up corporations buttholes all day, along with massive fines.
they aren't contracts according to literally every court that's challenged one, which is more than your tiny brain can comprehend, you dumb fricking frog defending ubisoft
>EU cares about consumer rights
Ah yes, the upload-filtering, link-taxing and chat-controlling EU is truly on the side of the consumer.
The QRD on EULAs in EU is: You purchased a thing, the license is a purchase contract. Whatever happens from then on out is not the business of the publisher. So you can resell your license for example. (Which was exactly the kind of case dealing with EULAs not being enforceable).
But there is an important exception: software-as-a-service,i.e. cloud provided services do not fall under this ruling because you didn't purchase something that you can resell. You purchased access to someone else's something.
Daily reminder not to use any european based servers or services for anything because they will have to be backdoored by law soon(tm).
why do morons keep arguing this bullshit when there's multiple sources in this thread proving the opposite
you buy a product, it's yours. It's not a service, no matter how Corporations wish it was. THEY call it a service, but it's not. It's a product that you own and they don't get to take it away from you or brick it at their whim.
>there's a contract therefore the corporation aren't scumbags
And that's outside of the fact that onesided contracts should be illegal
Yet you still agreed to it. Get fricked you disgusting moron.
The contracts aren't even legally viable. They haven't been tested in law yet. The fact is you can't just get your money back if you say no to the EULA, and you pay before signing any agreement. It's "law" that is expressly designed to frick over one party to the express benefit of the other party and that is something that can hardly be considered a contract; it's predatory.
EULA's should've been challenged in court 20 years ago
>EULA's should've been challenged in court 20 years ago
they have been many times, and EULA basically don't mean anything, and is only an attempt to gaslight the consumer into thinking they have no rights.
there's no physical releases with the dlc?
This is why EA keeps pushing for le live service games
>focus our resources on delivering great experiences for players who are playing newer or more popular titles.
STOP PLAYING OLD SHIT AND BUY OUR NEW SHIT!
>STOP PLAYING OLD SHIT AND BUY OUR NEW SHIT!
That's not going to happen. Especially not now.
>still forced to install games through uplay
>but now you have no online functionality
I hate ubisoft so much it's unreal
>"Additionally, the installation and access to downloadable content (DLC) will be unavailable"
>Hold the full game of your product hostage through DLC and get goyims to pay additionally for it.
>Shut down your service and tell them that they are no longer allowed a full game/those DLC.
This is fricking robbery dude.
Don't most of these games have GOTY editions with the dlc bundled in anyway?
>just buy the goty edition after you already bought all the dlc
top kek anon
Doesn't steam upgrade your copy or provide a discount? Thought that's how Skyrim worked
>Doesn't steam upgrade your copy or provide a discount?
That's up to the publisher.
All of these games dlc are for multiplayer only, so of course they are removing it after shutting down multiplayer
No, you're wrong actually. The way DLC for Ubisoft games works is that they link to your uplay account. That linkage is going bye bye, thus no more DLC installation is possible.
Ok, but all the games listed don't have any single player dlc. And the multiplayer is being shut down. I actually have some of these games and know what I'm talking about instead of just doomposting.
Far Cry 3's DLC is a mix of single player content (not too big a loss, but still) and multiplayer.
Anno 2070's "online services" include three single player campaigns that were rotated as community events.
So, you're wrong.
assassins creed 3 has tyranny of king washington dlc.
And furthermore, looking ahead, you get even more wrong - because Ubisoft increasingly wormed online "services" into single player.
For example, Anno 2205 (which is a TERRIBLE game btw) has a global resource trading mechanic that never really worked, but even so in the late game is pretty important if you want to make some extra cash. Anno 1800 has a whole range of cosmetic items for single player that simply do not exist in offline mode, because Ubisoft wants always online. Because they're fricking homosexuals.
This is only going to get worse.
This falls under what I was talking about still.
No it doesn't. None of what I mentioned was multiplayer. And no, not even the "global trading hub" in 2205. What a joke that was. Players would set the supply and demand, ostensibly, but nobody actually traded with each other. It was just more always online bullshit.
Mandatory Rosspost
Refer to
You clicked YES on the EULA, homosexual. Should have read the fine print.
this thread has too many 3rd world morons like you, who have no consumer rights.
1st world doesn't give a shit about what EULAs say.
in many countries eula existence is ilegal as it is, but they let it slide because its validity equals its importantce, zero
EULAs aren't legally binding, dipshit
>You clicked YES on the EULA
Yeah, AFTER you bought the game
not for us sea dweller
yaarrr
B a s e d
what was the last ubishit game you bought Ganker? I think mine was Asscreed 2, do they even make games anymore?
Only one was the king kong game in 2005 (my parents got it)
Anno 1404 History Edition
I will buy Anno 1800 one day. Only reason I even tolerate Uplay on my system. Maybe I will pirate it since they will shut it down one day.
south park stick of truth.
Rainbow Six Siege
The last singleplayer one was AC Black Flag
The Division. Was honestly a quality game by the time I picked it up. Shame they abandoned the winter theme in the sequal.
AC valhalla during a sale
pls no bully
You little b***h.
Far Cry 5, it was good.
A year or two ago there was a sale on Xbox that had Far Cry 3-5 for $18 so I took it. Far Cry 1 was also on sale for under a dollar so I bought that too. Before that I bought both of the Xbox 360 exclusive Naruto games which were way better than you'd expect, literally the only example I can think of a Western company taking on a Japanese IP and doing it well. I never understood the Ubisoft hate, always felt they were among the better "big AAA Western devs"
South Park: The Stick of Truth, original PC release. Man, their games have really been garbage for awhile, huh?
Last I played was Anno 1800. Last I paid for? I have no idea.
rainbow six vegas 2
Rayman Origins in 2011 which was great. Got Legends for free last year.
Blood Dragon. I never finished it.
Go finish it. It's really not that time consuming, you can do everything in one afternoon.
Rayman Legends, glad Ancel left so i no longer have a single shred of affinity towards this kuso company
Rayman Legends for PS3
I bought Shadow of War on steam like a year ago and before that I think it was Far Cry 2
Shadow of War is Warner Brothers (not like it's much better)
r6 siege starter edition for like 10 bucks
Rayman Raving Rabbids on Wii
I still boot up six siege
Revelations. Was pretty shit. After that I pirated 3 and I didn't like it, didn't finish it. I was excited for Watch Dogs after I saw the first gameplay trailer, but quickly sobered up and decided to wait for reviews. With how badly it was received, I definitely made the right choice.
Got Unity for free when they offered it after the notre damme burned down. Was pretty decent, still won't buy any ubisoft games anymore though.
ascreed odyssey when it was like 10 bux on steam earlier this year.
The login to play your offline single player game was horsesshit and I'm never buying ubi crap again if it can be avoided
good game tho
Ghost Recon Breakpoint
Rick Dangerous on the ZX Spectrum.
go back to sucking dicks on reddit
I think odyssey and black flag were the only two ubisoft games I've ever bought. I got the rest of the ass creed franchise with games with gold.
I only got black flag because I heard it was a good pirate game and I love age of sail shit.
And odyssey because you could turn Kass into wonder woman, and Peloponnesian war is some neat shit.
AC IV black flag because it was like... 1 dollar? back then steam sales. It's much better than wasting my precious external HDD space. Also it's nice that I can conect it to my iPad so I cna play the pirate resource game portable.
Unity.
I managed to snatch AC Unity practically for free because their Steam page fricked up and might as well take it.
From Dust, I even pre order the game.
the only ubishart game i ever bought was six siege and i haven't played it once. I pirated some asscreed and fat cry games though
GR Breakpoint on a discount fricking lel at any c**t that paid top dollar for it on release.
I don't remember, the last AC I played was the first one, but I pirated it. I got Rayman Legends for free and played that.
The Crew 2. Honestly should've waited for a sale and about a year of updates.
far cry 4
blackflag
Silent Hunter 2, physical edition.
Assassin's Creed 3. It's been about ten whole years since I dumped them
whole thing is asinine but the biggest loss is Blacklist, arguably the last fun stealth co-op game.
i got Rogue Remastered for like $5, they don't really make games worth playing, or worth more than $20 anymore, which sucks given the IPs they own.
My only Ubishit game is Uno on PS4.
Fractured But Whole. Good game but too many Ubishit hands on it.
Mario + Rabbids.
Beyond Good & Evil HD on sale during Christmas of 2011 or 2012 something
Probably a Rayman game or For Honor.
Scott Pilgrim
I nought R6S in 2018 and regretted it, I think that's the only one since R6V2 10 years earlier.
The newest I bought was Division 1, last game I ever bought was AC2.
Scott Pligrim. I hope they sell the rights to THQ Nordic
Rayman origins. I played siege for a month when it was free
I cant remember it was either the PoP trilogy or Beyond Good and Evil, everything else i pirated, while they were worth pirating. Think thier last game i actually played was For Honor beta
Assasin creed brotherhood
Watch Dogs Legion.
I regretted it.
The only game I will buy now is South Park
Can't remember, but last I played was my friend's AC2.
The Crew. I bought it for my son cause it was cheapish and he wanted it. But when he played it there was absolutely microtransaction crap everywhere. It got to the point where it kept telling him to do missions and when he went there it asked for money which he didn't have and he just broke down crying. A video game I bought for my son made him cry because it kept telling him he couldn't play it. Ubisoft never got a cent from me again, and I was quite a big fan before that.
I think I bought the entire anno1800 and most if not all its DLCs through ubishit
am i fricked?
should have not fall for Ganker epic hate meme and bought it on epic store instead
Everything Ubisoft releases goes through their servers anyway, doesn't matter if you paid for it through Steam, Epic or Uplay.
Your fricked for just buying ubisoft. You have to pirate it now if you want to be able to play it.
Ezio collection back in lockdown
100% 2 and was bored as shit a few hours into brohood
Rocksmith 2014
Anno 1800, and only because it wasn't cracked at the time
Oh god I think it was watch dogs
Does paying for a VPN count as buying Ubisoft games because if yes then I "bought" asscreed odyssey
Grow Up in the sale
Last one I bought was Asscreed 3 on Switch.
Chaos Theory so I could coop it with my friend. It still didn't work.
Rainbow six Siege, didn't pay for 1 dlc character, not one, frick them
Far Cry 3.
Wanted to get the Prince of Persia games, but guess it's pirating time.
Division 2, the only game I have on their shitty launcher.
Rainbow Six Siege, before that I hadn't purchased one since probably Splinter Cell back in the original Xbox. Never really cared for their games, same goes for EA, I think the last game I bought was Origins, never even bothered with the rest of their games, not even Battlefield, Mirror's Edge despite people saying that the game is good, etc. Frick all these companies.
AssCreed Unity
The dividion i think, i liked how it looked but the loot was really fricking awkward and unsatisfying so i didn’t play it much.
Valiant Hearts
Probably The Division.
I was so depressed at that point in my life I thought the answer to happiness was spending my wagie money on games I'd never enjoy
>I was so depressed at that point in my life I thought the answer to happiness was spending my wagie money on games I'd never enjoy
Yea, that's the Ubisoft audience honestly.
People like that are frankly the only reason they didn't go out of business half a decade ago.
Trackmania Turbo in a bargain bin for 10€. I played more than 40 hours into it so it was well spend. Of course the latest Trackamania is a subscription game, because Ubishit.
Also, Rocksmith 2014... which is also a shitty subscription game now. Luckily all the DLC and more can be pirated.
Literally the only ones I've ever bought that I am aware of are the two SP games and Kingdom Battle.
FarCry Blood Dragon for 4 euros. The Black folk shut down my ubisoft account due to inactivity for years. I told them to go frick themselves.
Far Cry 3. All of their games since then have been functionally identical.
rocksmith 2014
I haven't bough a Ubi game since Black Flag.
Call of Juarez Gunslinger and Far Cry Blood Dragon
i accidentally bought a game bundle from one of those game bundle sites with all the assassins creed games back in the day
didn't realize at the end that you couldn't redeem them on steam
never played any of them
Probably R6S for next to nothing.
ive never bought a ubisoft game full price, they always go to like 5 dollars. I think Trackmania on the ps4 for 5 bucks.
I bought Anno 2070 as a boxed copy thinking I'd get to bypass Ubisoft's shit, but that wasn't the case. Last time I bought anything from them outside of a $5 sale.
I wonder if this affects Division 1. I'd be pretty disappointed if I couldn't go back and play it in the future, especially something like the Survival mode which 2 doesn't have.
What a bunch of buttholes. Intead of unlocking everything and let it be, like you should in cases of ending service like this, they will just pull the plug on some old service machine and frick you all.
So whenever some dumass brings up here topic about "questionable ethic" of pirates, just point them to displays like this. Fricking corps behavior is justification in itself.
Yeah they've given a perfect precedent, wonder how far it could be taken in court.
not far at all
>see judge? Thry didnt pay for the game, they paid for the "Experience!"(TM)
>The court rules in favor of BRAND. Thank you for the fat bribe. Court is adjourned!
is how i imagine it would go
Courts are usually anti-corporate in situations like these. Remember that this is like political gold(helping citizens against mean old companies) but there's rarely people willing to sue because companies have lawyers on retainer
>usually
aka: never
>Intead of unlocking everything and let it be, like you should in cases of ending service like this, they will just pull the plug on some old service machine and frick you all.
moron, the likely reason they are shutting this down is that it costs infrastructure upkeep and employee time to handle these resources and nobody buys old shit anyway. Real life world is not as simple as "an old server".
You're right, real life is some alcoholic russian seeding all the classic games from a slum outside Moscow.
FOR
FREE
Yes and that alcoholic russian has nothing to do with the corporate world. Even the most basic architectural steps in place which means money spent on upkeeping load balancing solutions, network traffic, storage costs, servers running etc etc. There is a shitload of hidden costs when hosting cloud setups and if they don't make money back on old DLC then who can blame them?
I'm sure Ubishit is so strapped for cash that they can't afford the infrastructure that would be the money equivalent of one whales daily purchases.
>it costs infrastructure upkeep to hold 100mb of data on their servers
and nothing of value was lost
was thinking about 2070, guess I'll pirate now
If the last israelitebisoft game you bought was Rayman Legends, you are based (like me), if not you deserve this and more.
imagine still buying games
>game shuts down
>OMG NWO! KLAUS! BILL GATES! FAUCI
meanwhile you can't play MAG or Metal Gear Online anymore
>Splinter Cell: Blacklist
Did they forget the Wii U port or will it still work afterwards?
>"the installation and access to DLC will be unavailable."
>Literally having money stolen from you
Surely this can't be legal?
They are gonna to re-remaster all the ezio series right? Or just let it disappear. Its fricking 1984.
Imagine buying Ubishit.
They killed all my favorite series.
Even fricking AC wasn't like this during AC1-3
surely this is what you people wanted since you kept giving money to this nonsense? people that did have no right to complain.
And this is why people pirate
Fricking explain Black personhomosexual how pirate result to that shit
And be ready to post proofs
>Fricking explain Black personhomosexual how pirate result to that shit
>And be ready to post proofs
I have no idea what this post is trying to convey
He said that this is why people pirate, not that this is the result of people pirating. Reading comprehension zero.
Yeah yeah just like they were gonna shut down psn store for ps3, origin stuff etc etc.
Goddamnit you cant fricking see a marketing strategy even if it bites you ass.
Now they are gonna get talked everywhere and in the end they are gonna be "yeah yeah we reconsidered cause WE CARE about you gamers and nothing will fricking happen", also announcing remasters of those games cause YOU CARED about those.
Jesus christ you are all so gullible.
You're not as smart as you think you are.
Compared to everyone who is doomposting here like chickens whitout heads? Im fricking stephen hawking.
Yeah, you're a fricking cripple alright
They've done this for countless other games before, and have not gone back on it.
I want to own nothing and be happy, how to?
Let them jam that corporate dick in your ass even deeper and harder.
How will that make me happy?
Well, they'll think for you. You'll be happy whether you want to or not.
How will I know when it's working?
I already own nothing, when do I get to the happy part?
#KondoLife
Wait, are you telling me things that aren't tangible aren't tangible?????? What about my nft monkeydick pics???????????? Noooooooooooooooooooooooo! I sold the family farm for it! Why!!!!
so they're shutting down game services but keeping the NFT bullshit online
Are you 31 yet?
And this is not a first time btw, ubishait does these online termination waves every (other) year or so.
>buy online-only content from shitty scummy company
>get robbed
You npc consoomer homosexuals get what you fricking deserve.
Please stop insulting brands I respect and want more products from.
It's shit like this that makes pirating the right choice. I've pirated a lot of games,but once I started to earn enough I try to buy, at least stuff that is on sale.
So now, you buy a game and because their client is terrible, they will take what you paid actual money for and prevent you from playing it. That is inexcusable. I am sure they protected themselves well with some lawyer israeliteery in the terms of use, but this should be illegal. Frick them.
>and prevent you from playing it.
You know if you still have it downloaded you can play it right?
I have like 20 uplay games in the library if not more. Like hell will I have them all installed at the same time.
I TOLD YOU ALL
I TOLD YOU THAT ALWAYS ONLINE AND/OR DLCs ARE TRAPS, BUT YOU DIDN'T LISTEN
You will be happy.
Undz you will own everything
You vill take ze Mark of ze beast to buy ze bug food to eat in your One World Government rented pod
If you'd subscribe to more cloud services this wouldn't happen, they'd have no reason to decommission them if there were users. It's your fault.
Yeah subscribe to a cloud service they have even more reason to shut down.
Ubisoft is demonic
EA is satanic
What would that make Sony then?
Christ and Savior
Well God is the most evil being in the Bible.
From a certain point of view
No its pretty objective.
>kicked Adam and eve out of Eden because they were tricked by a being God created
>punished the entirety of humanity because of it with original sin
>flooded the planet
>separated the planet and ruined what peace existed by scrambling language just because of the tower of babel
>provides you will eternal afterlife if you suck his son's(who's also him) wiener
maybe you're right this doesn't sound right
There's honestly more of an argument for Satan being good than God.
Wouldn't go that far, the descriptions(fables) fall too hard on the side of hedonism and that's cringe as well, at least in my opinion. There should be a balance.
All that is based, you kneel for st floyd cuck.
>NOOOO YOU CANT JUST HECKIN PUNISH PEOPLE FOR BEING WRONG!
god gave us free will so you can’t cope and dilate about humans doing evil shit then getting punished for it, it’s literally your choice
>its literally your choice
so why should I accept some arbitrarily decided consequence then?
>believing in god
double digit IQ detected
>you kneel for st floyd cuck
If I think God is evil why would I kneel for some American Black person?
>god gave us free will so you can’t cope
Have you ever read the bible? God is constantly coping about humans having free will.
>Have you ever read the bible? God is constantly coping about humans having free will.
Prove it
The whole idea of original sin, dipshit.
WHY MY ACTIONS HAVE CONSECUENCES THIS IS NOT FREE WILL
Brainlet and a moron.
Free will is the fact we could commit those acts.
You can program a robot to kill and it would commits sins and the same time of not having any free will.
Are you being moronic on purpose or are you just illiterate?
Most christgays are moronic like that. They haven't even read the bible properly.
>Free will is the fact we could commit those acts.
One word: Job. God took a bet with Satan, knowing full well that he was sending Job into a fricking lifelong hell-hole of misery in the process.
Because he wanted to prove a point; and wanted to prove himself right.
God is a fricking self-serving evil son-of-a-bitch. The only question works asking - if you're a religious and a christian to begin with - is whether he is MORE fricking evil than the other guy, or not.
... Actually; now THERE'S an interesting video game exploring good/bad moral choice paths.
One where you (literally) get to play God or the Devil, harrowing humanity. Holy shit. 10/10 GOTY right there.
But ofcourse: conversative America - so it'll never fricking EVER see the light of day.
free will isnt real homie
no one ever had a choice to begin with
Wrong. The devil is.
The acts of the devil aren't half as evil as God's.
*tips*
>Californian troony company
>Christ and Savior
Not in a million years snoygoy
you will own NOTHING and you (not you) will be happy
While scummy. You agree to the TOS that allows this sort of practice. This is literally on any downloaded game. It's been talked about for years and now it's actually happening. Are you all really this surprised? Lmao.
>TOS gets applied and you're laughing?
This.
It's just the TOS that Ganker loves to defend whenever someone gets banned for saying a naughty word.
Don't tell me Ganker no longer likes the taste of boot?
BUT I'M RUNNING OUT OF SPACE TO STORE MORE PHYSICAL GAMES.
who cares, no one here is stupid enough to play ubisoft games, right?
I recently found out they removed like a dozen shitty games I had gotten for free and the handful of games I actually bought, like AssCreed II. so, pirating all Ubishit gayms here on out after they basically just robbed me. call it karmic backlash. I ain't buying shit from them again.
don't care. You're an inbred moron for giving them money in the first place. How "people" like you are even able to survive is a mystery that will never be solved. you're so frickign stupid it's a miracle that you don't forget to breathe.
>don't care
>types a whole lot of flaming shit afterward
epic projection, moron-kun. thanks for advertising your 60 IQ. I'll still be able to play the like $20 of games I bought on sale over a decade through piracy. (you) will remain a sad, angry, basement troll until (you) off yourself.
>get warned about this shit for years
>ignore it, because i need to consoom
>wtf why are they deleting my games how could this be happening?
lmao get owned moronic consoomers
What exactly do you expect people to do? Protest in front of Ubisoft's offices? You can tell people not to buy, but the sheep will buy no matter what.
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST SHUT DOWN THE SERVERS AND STOP WASTING MONEY ON VIDEO GAMES AFTER 10 YEARS WHAT IF I WANT TO PLAY HECKIN MULTIPLAYER WITH MY WIFE'S SON ONE DAY??? YOU MUST SUPPORT THE GAME FOREVER BECAUSE I SAY SO!!!
Don't want to support it then once they abandon it it should automatically become public domain.
Even ignoring the killing of multiplayer games, just the fact alone that the single player product you paid for is just stolen from you is insane.
If those Black personhomosexuals keep insisting on all the online and digital only bullshit then the least they can do is let you access what you fricking paid for.
Either start releasing actual physical products that require no internet connection to some random service again or at least ensure all the enforced by yourself digital only bullshit is actually available up until you actually go 100% bankrupt and the whole company ceases to exist.
Or they could not make the game dependent on a central server for it to function at all in the first place
Or they could bother to pump out a basic b***h patch to remove the dependencies when they cut the chord
Instead it's 'lol we don't have to do shit so we won't, enjoy your dead game'
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No thanks, homo.
>buy game
>money stolen
ubisisters, explain yourselves
>be chud
>money stolen
Fixed it for y'all. Stop being an entitled piece of shit and consume product
>buy game
>dont say word
>money stolen
Wait, does this mean I can't play the XCOM 2 DLC anymore? Or does this only matter for the original XCOM?
Neither, doofus.
How the frick is XCOM related to Ubishit?
And people are still anti-piracy in vidya.
It's actually insane there are morons that are okay with pirating anything and everything BUT vidya.
I have a friend that fricking pirates movies, music, books and whatever else constantly but the moment I mention vidya piracy he suddenly acts like a white knight and says it's immoral.
And it seems actually quite common, why the frick are so many people apparently infected with a brainrot that makes them be mad about ONLY vidya piracy when it's arguably the industry that deserves to be pirated the most?
If you pirate, you basically were getting the version that Ubisoft is going to give you after September 1st. This was Ubisoft's anti-pirate strategy, lock certain features (like certain missions and items, for example) behind uplay. If the game cannot connect to uplay, no mission/item. It literally doesn't work. That's why these servers are being shut down, because Ubisoft no longer feels it is worth continuing this incentive any longer. They don't care if you pirate these games or not.
Yeah. I mean, at least when I buy a Blu Ray it doesn't need updates, the whole movie is there.
its unironically because of consoles
the marketing has brainwashed them.into believing that if they give money to their favorite company, they'll get more of the content they love. They pulled it off successfully with paid online and subsctiptions 10 years ago, and have been slowly boiling the pot since
there's a remastered Far Cry 3?
For the new gen consoles, or so I've heard.
>People actually still buy ubisoft games
What the frick, i thought that company died 10 years ago
Does this affect Steam or just Uplay?
There's literally no difference, since all the Steam versions force a Uplay installation.
both as well as consoles.
it's really amazing how video games encapsulate everything wrong with capitalism and yet Ganker froths at the mouth when you suggest 'hey maybe capitalism isnt that great and we should regulate it more'
>frick globohomo, frick libshit woke companies, frick israelites they control everything
>haha yeah you said it dude frick capitalism
>HOW DARE YOU SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT OUR CORPORATE OVERLORDS I WOULD PERSONALLY STARVE THAN DEPRIVE JEFF BEZOS OF HIS HUNDREDTH YACHT
There wouldn't BE video games without capitalism anon
Go frick yourselves
Vidya was nonexistent in the Soviet Union.
You can't be fricking serious.
And how many soviet citizens played that game? Almost none.
Moving the goalposts.
>a literal hobby project done at a research institute that only became popular when it was exported to the West
Got any others? Nice library
It's because seeing those problems and coming to the conclusion of "frick capitalism" is such a massive moronic leap in logic that completely glosses over why those problems exist in the first place. All the shit you just listed, ie globohomo/libshit woke companies/israeli nepotism would still exist in a communist/socialist system, except it would be even worse because they'd all be operating from the government instead of from a corporation. The reason we get mad when we express these problems and your brainlet takeaway from it is "frick capitalism" is that you're completely missing the point and making it all about yourself
>pay for DLC
>wait a couple of years
>money stolen
WOOOOWWWW
>only pc cucks lose access to dlc
Why haven't you switched to consoles yet
>pay for a game as a service
>service shuts down
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CANT PLAY MY GAMES ANYMORE
You seriously cannot be this moronic.
>>pay for a game as a service
Which no one did.
You don't own anything that you "buy" on services like Steam and Ubisoft's shitty platform. You are RENTING games.
Wrong, you own the software you buy in the EU.
then profit off the software
>streams gameplay
>uploads let's plays to israelitetube
Heh, nothin personnel kid
20iq post
If you own the game then make copies of it and sell it
what's wrong?
>anon buys a flapjack
>moron: YOU DON'T OWN THAT
>anon: yes I do
>moron: THEN WHY DON'T YOU MAKE COPIES AND PROFIT OFF IT? HEH CHECKMATE
>food analogy
>no argument
I accept your concession
you had no argument to begin with
>if I ignore your posts then I win!
just accept you got BTFO and move on, this is embarrassing
I accept your concession
>the cope begins
>he just keeps going
I really upset you huh? LOL
You're giving me (You)s, of course I'll keep going
You're so dumb it hurts.
Ever heard of owning movies but not being able to make money off personal screenings? Now apply that to software you smelly Black person.
You own it therefore you should be able to sell it double Black person
You can already sell your copy of it lmao.
then make a copy of your copy, since you own it you also own the copy of the copy.
and then sell the copy. ad infinitum
It's my product - not my IP.
You're just being moronic on purpose in a feeble attempt to get some imaginary win.
>hurr what do you mean i own my burger but can't make new ones and sell them as mc donalds burgers?!1!?
Its a copy of your product moron
You're probably the dumbest Black person I've seen here this year.
>own a product
>copy the product you own
>since it's just a copied version of the product you own, you also own it
>sell it
Simpleton, much?
>buy a book
>photocopy it and sell it
>get arrested for copyright infringement
WTF ALL BOOKS ARE RENTED REEEEE
clearly you never owned it
>physical things are the same as digital things
the crux of every single moralgay argument
in face of the law which defines ownership, yes they are
>buy a book DIGITALLY
>copy it DIGITALLY and sell it DIGITALLY
>get arrested for copyright infringement
WTF ALL BOOKS ARE RENTED REEEEE
>buy digital anything
kek and just like that your strawman falls apart
>get BTFO
>throw out debate bro terms you don't understand to try and save face
LOL
>NONO YOU SEE I WIN
sorry moron. not how it works.
see, digital things are free because copying them is free
you can scream and wail all you want but this fact is why physical and digital goods are not comparable
>digital things are free
proof?
>proof?
my 8tb hdd
so no proof? just your feelings?
so, hdds are feelings now? how cute
>still no proof, just more seetheposts
I accept your concession
keep sucking corporate wiener and paying for nothing, lmao
>get BTFO
>resort to adhoms
every time
>get BTFO
>resort to pretending that you're winning
every time
winning what? you conceded the argument already and are just leaving seetheposts now
>he's still seething
>he just keeps going
I really got to you huh? LOL
>he just keeps going
I really got to you huh? LOL
>starts repeating my posts back to me
utterly mindbroken, I'm adding you to my "BTFO folder"
>starts repeating my posts back to me
utterly mindbroken, I'm adding you to my "BTFO folder"
>get arrested for copyright infringement
In what shithole of a country you get arrested for photocopy a book?
Oh wait, i know the answer.
can you repeat that in english?
Sorry im not fluent in Blackspeak.
The original copy is the product, it's not very hard to understand.
a copy of an owned product is still your owned product
Yes and you can do whatever you want with them except make a profit because it's not your IP.
if you can't make a profit of your copy then you can't make a profit of the original
Ever heard of those stores that buy used games and resell them?
ESL
>being proud that you only know one language
GOOD MORNING SIRS
Americans are weird like that
That's good for you, except that you are not buying software, you are buying the temporary credential to use the service aka RENT.
>Services come with a reasonable expectancy of when they are finished
Never happens unless you have a contractual agreement on service upkeep. Shitty mobile gacha games will shutdown 3 months after release, should the owners be forced to keep running such services at loss because some moron overinvested into a dead product?
This is exactly the same reason why people jump on big games and are likely to invest more on games that they perceive will last for many years. They are making risk assessments on their investment but there is never a guarantee that whatever game you are playing won't shut down the next month.
You can already do whatever the frick you want with your copy and they can't take it away from you.
Forcing corporations to host shit forever is a different topic.
>should the owners be forced to keep running such services at loss because some moron overinvested into a dead product?
You still have a moron's mindset about this.
They DON'T HAVE to keep running servers for the games to be ALLOWED TO KEEP WORKING. They can just FIX THE FRICKING GAME so it STOPS BEING DEPENDENT ON THE SERVERS that they are ABOUT TO SHUT DOWN. Ooooor NOT MAKE THEM TOTALLY DEPENDENT ON SUCH SERVERS IN THE FIRST PLACE
There is a shitload of classic games with multiplayers that all still work fine despite the companies who made them devoting zero resources to maintaining them. DO NOT LET these companies pretend that it's not possible for their games to keep functioning after they pull the plug.
>They DON'T HAVE to keep running servers for the games to be ALLOWED TO KEEP WORKING. They can just FIX THE FRICKING GAME so it STOPS BEING DEPENDENT ON THE SERVERS that they are ABOUT TO SHUT DOWN. Ooooor NOT MAKE THEM TOTALLY DEPENDENT ON SUCH SERVERS IN THE FIRST PLACE
Precisely. Some anons are still using their head here.
>They can just FIX THE FRICKING GAME so it STOPS BEING DEPENDENT ON THE SERVERS that they are ABOUT TO SHUT DOWN
Literally impossible without wasting money on dev time or leaking server side code for emulation which is counterproductive to the original goal, saving money. The only way for this to happen is to stir up enough shit so that the perceived cost of negative press outweights the costs of patching these games.
>wasting money on dev time
These are big-ass corporations we are talking about, not little indie devs in their garages. They can fricking afford it. At most these are a couple of days work for one or two programmers anyway. And again, there's always just the option of 'dont bake these dependencies into the game in the first place'
Don't plead poverty for companies like Ubisoft.
>They can fricking afford it
In tis case, they literally can fricking not.
Ubisoft has been positioning itself as viable for a take-over for months now. They actively are seeking to be bought out; and allegedly have impending solvency problems that would eventually death-spiral into bankruptcy if it doesn't happen.
Services come with a reasonable expectancy of when they are finished
Devs don't stick expiration dates on their games, we shouldn't have to guess if we'll have these games for one decade, two decades or whenever
There will be no more "good old games" from this era, because everything is rigged with online account, sevices and dlc shit and moment they close it you will be left with half (or not at all) working unuseable garbage
The history of games is going to be very sad one day
You'll have all the classics from the first decades that are going to remain playable entirely for the rest of human history
And then a huge void, a graveyard of shit dropping off the cliff as you pass the point where online connectivity becomes mandatory standard, all these games that were playable only for a short period of history and now can only be experienced through whatever media recordings of them are still around.
This will happen with more and more companies and us Steam & digital hating bros will be vindicated.
So in this list we have:
>The good Assassins Creed games, of which the multiplayer was already long dead
>And a bunch of shit nobody plays in the first place
Nothing of value was lost. I don't see the outrage over this. You can't tell me you could possibly think to enjoy, let alone get into a game of Manhunt in AC Brotherhood in 2022 even if they weren't shutting down servers for it
People aren't upset over the multiplayer you raging homosexual, people are upset that the DLC you paid for is being stolen.
>B-but I might one day
Is this the entire argument? If you haven't already bought the DLC for a 10+ year old game who's to say you ever would?
I'm certainly upset over a company saying 'these games' multiplayer can never be played again, because we are huge control-freaks that refused to let players run matches themselves, and now we are too cheap/lazy to actually remove the dependencies on our central servers as we shut them down'
We shouldn't have to accept that, it doesn't matter if no one was actively playing them when it happened, that's a cancerous mindset that only helps these frickhead corporations, 'barely anyone played it so its fine to just let it become unplayable forever'
Games as a service is the future, they said.
haven't even installed anything Ubisoft since Black Flag.
and when I say "installed" i mean pirated since I have never bought a Ubisoft game...ever.
I only games I've bought in the last 10 or so years is Monster Hunter games and Ace Combat games on steam.
idk man when I was a kid and game prices were good, I bought the first asscreed with saved up lunch money
It was kino
The game was empty and repetitive, sure, but it was 2009 or something
Asscreed II, on the other hand, I pirated
holy shit, that was such an improvement
I got into pirating when it was released, I was so excited when it was revealed that it was either leaked or cracked, I don't remember
TWO fricking hidden blades, I almost shat myself when I saw the trailer
I feel like pirating a Ubisoft game just out of spite.
But there isn't a single game I would like to play even for free.
This is true for most AAA games nowadays.
on the plus side no longer need to waste money on new GPUs.
Don't give them your time anon, they make exclusively trash. I'm sure your time is more valuable than 20 bucks.
Oh no now I'll never be able to play the Rayman 3 DLC...
Oh wait
>To play the solo campaign, you will have to set your console into offline mode.
1. I don’t buy ubisoulless games 2. It’s bizarre that people expect online games to be supported forever 3. Just pirate if you don’t like it
You can thank pirategays for these games having always online features to begin with.
Yes its the pirates fault that the corpos decided to react like huge fricking israelites to small losses of sales
how are pirates responsible for gt7?
They would just delete the game from your library and link you to buy the 60$ "remastered" collection if piracy didnt exist
Looks like literally a "frick you these games are 10+ years old" list. Still bullshit.
They don't have the resources for the servers, please understand
As if it was even possible to be upset about not having access to AC3 DLC of all things, it's not like you couldn't just pirate any of this shit. The only thing that would make me seethe in this regard is to see games go exclusively streaming, which thankfully won't be viable for a long time.
Come to the light gamers
That face is too uncanny. I don't like it.
Isn't it enough that they refused to relist Driver San Francisco, now they gotta pull this shit?
This is why EVERYTHING that is online only/cloud/IoT etc. must be resisted at all costs. You're literally giving away some rights and whatever they offer in return it will never be worth it, in the long run they will 100% frick you!
even old games are not safe,what the hell...
I loved the multiplayer of AC brotherhood too. I hope a private server will be made...
pretty sure the servers have been offline for years
It's still online. I can play it right now even if there's not many players
This thread is filled with zoomer homosexuals and/or moronic corporate bootlickers that act all huffy and puffy about "you agreed to a EULA, private company can do what they want" your mindset and personality is why the world and games suck so much wiener nowadays, you know who you are, the real smart people in this thread know who you are, i wish nothing but pain the lives of you, frick off and die you anti human gaslighting corposhills, this shit evil.
you agreed to the terms that specified that they could frick your ass whenever they wanted. You dont get to complain when they make good on their words
Dont agree to that shit in the first place
when will you morons get that consumer rights completely trump whatever contract companies make you sign
same reason you can't legally sign away your constitutional or human rights.
you signed the devil's contract.
nobody is obliged to protect you when the devil comes to collect.
Stop signing things like that. Stop blindly agreeing to EULAs and fine prints. Stop putting yourself in vulnerable, exploitable positions.
Why is this so hard for you to comprehend?
fricking dumbass
maybe move to a country with consumer rights
You aren't going to sue the company for them banning you for saying Black person
saying Black person is not a consumer right, zoomer
why are you getting upset that I dont let corporations frick my ass?
>unironically enjoyed the AC multiplayer
Haha, this sucks. At least AC4's multiplayer is still alive (for however long that'll last)
How does keeping far cry 3 (20 gb) on their server hurt them in any way?
Older Far-Crys being playable (and cheaper) means competition for every new one. They'd rather you toss them in the bin and pay up every time there's a new entry, but of course they can also just take the option to keep playing the old ones away entirely now.
>NEW NEW NEW GAME GAME
>NEW NINTENDO 3DS SUPER ULTRA DELUXE XL+
>SHINY SHINY SHINY you like SHINY
>Black personZ + TRANNIES
>BUY NEW GAME GOY DON'T ASK QUESTIONS
Damn, even PS3 updates and DLC are still hosten on sony servers for free download if you know the url
>Damn, even PS3 updates and DLC are still hosten on sony servers for free download if you know the url
where can i find the urls?
try google, rajesh, if your microsoft overlords don't have it blocked on your work computer
PSNDL and NoPayStation are your best bet
>None of those games really have dlc
>People outrage knowing nothing as always
They have multiplayers
There's no reason we should be OK with major chunks of games being lobotomized because devs can't be fricked putting in a small amount of work to sever these server dependencies
This just further legitimizes pirates standpoint.
see all the seethe and bootlicking itt? mutts angry that the enemies of their oligarchy have been vindicated
EULA does not supersede any consumer protection law.
Anyone know how to get From Dust on PC working without the need for the ubisoft connect bullshit?
Just pirate the game.
From where? I already got it on Steam, but if I can do it easily (ie. less hassle than using the ubisoft thingy) then sure.
Register on rutracker.org use search.
>the one pajeet who doesn't understand what digital goods are
good thread
I don't own any Ubisoft games.
What the frick is wrong with French people
why isn't killing single player games/DLCs against the law? frick ubisoft
What if I own the steam versions? Surely this doesn't affect valve
>Surely this doesn't affect valve
It all goes trough UPlay you dumb fricking moron.
anon what did you think these 2 meant
you buying ubishit through steam changes nothing outside having a launch button on steam, you were still going through uplay, but with an extra step
What the frick I didn't notice those!
>tfw a few direct download sites are blocked my country
Thanks, greedy frickers.
>mfw i was worried but realised i don't have any ubishit games
Who cares? Ubishit is not even worth pirating.
Shame they didn't announce they were closing down or something.
good luck trying to pirate an ONLINE ONLY game. unless you happen to have a private server fully developed and ready or managed to steal the games server code you're not playing again.
>oh wait a minute that's why online only is-
-good
if it's online only, it's shit
no question about it
except Warframe, because at least it's free
FEELS LIKE YOUR LOSING YOUR MIND!
they're basically killing online for the only decent games they've ever made
they'll file for bankruptcy any day now, it's the only explanation
Its bugisoft. What the frick do you people expect from these Black folk? THEY ARE FRENCH
To add more bullshit, read the last part:
>Remasters arent affected by this*
Can we nuke France? Please
I have never purchased an Ubi Soft game in my 36 years of life on this planet.
what does this mean for my ubishit games on steam?
such as Far Cry 2 and From Dust.
Ded
bahsterds
>mfw playing and switching between Anno 1404 Venice & Anno 1800 with a bunch of germans and french people
The autism is amazing
Nintendo did this on the Wii (and the Wii U in 2023) but no one complained.
It's just gonna get worse with each generation this is only the beginning.
>this is only the beginning.
I cannot express how disgusting zoomers like you are. They've been shutting down console servers since forever. Original Xbox live service shut down twelve years ago, before you could even walk. Things have been cancer forever.
Day of the rope for digital only gays coming real soon. I wonder how much longer they will defend subscription based services.
As always consolegay is too brain-deficient to understand the difference between the concept of game as a service and the way data is stored.
This confusion is to be expected from someone who clings to a piece of plastic, though.
Suck ubisoft's wiener harder.
test
>own splintercell:blacklist
>figured the co-op could be fun - fun with friends etc etc
>You will be unable to play multiplayer, link Ubisoft accounts in-game or use online features.
So I guess I just got swindled, huh?
>To play the solo campaign, you will have to set your console into offline mode.
what in the god damn
So wait let me ubderstand this if I have Blacklist on steam but I need to use uplay to play it Im not gonna be able to?
No you'll be able to play the game. Just not access any of the additional content.
still sucks
If you didnt bought any modern ubisoft game but pirated it, reply to this post to ZEhahahaha at idiots who bought these.
my brother gifted me Siege when it was 17€ some years ago , thats the only ubishit game i own
>trusting the french
w-where'd he go
He became one of them...
>TEN NAKED MEN JUST WALKING DOWN THE ROAD.jpg
I have Ubisoft shit how do I get a refund?
Literally who the frick cares about Assassin's Creed and fricking ZombiU MULTIPLAYER, you mongoloid morons will get mad at everything without thinking
>ITS JUST A HORSE DONT BUY IT
moron
>and access to downloadable content (DLC)
Do these old AssCreeds even have DLCs that aren't useless cosmetic shit?
reminds me of the old threads the origingays that can't access all dragon age origin dlc in theirs store while I could with my pirated copy
you were warned about this shit when it started years ago, you didn't listen
>origingays that can't access all dragon age origin dlc in theirs store while I could with my pirated copy
maybe that's why Black folk push for online always shit then? unless it's crap like RAGE2 or something that can be easily bypassed.
>he didn't buy on GoG
>implying i bought
Reminder that this is PC gamer's fault, PC gaming had something called dedicated servers, if they actually bothered to complain to developers they would add this feature which we've had since forever. And these games would not have died since someone could just rent a server and host some multiplayer.
that's not what they are talking about. ubishits servers are for more than just organizing multiplayer.
We lost dedicated private servers because console Black folk could not grasp the concept you fricking moron.
>Why is there not just a play button i can press to play w-what is this list gnghh
CS:GO had dedicated servers for private and steam hosted for matchmaking. It's not exclusive concepts
What console can you play cs:go on? What the frick are you even trying to say?!
I'm trying to say you are a fricking moron if you think dedicated servers and matchmaking are exclusive concepts. You can have both you braindead moron and we have in many older games.
>What console can you play cs:go on?
CSGO started as a console port, and got PS3 and 360 versions.
>everything is assasin's creed garbage
nothing of value was lost
>Anno 2070
They truly fricked this game over with their le online shit. Still mad ten years later.
Nothing is stopping steam from doing the same, just saying
Minus the fact that the service has been massively successful for almost two decades
Ubisoft shut down its store because it wasn't profitable. It's not any kind of ideal or concept, it's literally "we'll frick you over the moment we're able to save a few bucks by doing so"
you never know what will happen in the future
sega also probably didn't know that they would get fricked so hard that their hardware business got totally destroyed and all they do nowadays is publish games and have some sonic here and there
it just takes one moron on top
steam is too big to fail
It's not something that would be up to steam or valve if it's not their game.
Online infrastructure for most AAA games is handled by the devs themselves, not Valve.
From what I understood it's not the store that's shutting down but rather online services for some of their older games.
Not saying this is a good thing, don't get me wrong but Ubisoft's store is probably going to be around for a while longer.
Division 2 I think back when it was super cheap.
Actually, if Valve has any brains whatsover they'll revise their terms for being allowed to publish on Steam so that publishers can't just randomly pull the plug on games anymore.
As of 1st of Jan 2022 the EU requires all member states to uphold in their national laws a new directive for the sale of digital content, which states that publishers literally cannot modify your content purchased on or after said date, in a way that negatively impacts your acess to it or your use of it. That would be viable legal grounds to terminate the original contract of sale, which requires the trader - i.e. Valve - to reimburse you.
And here's the kicker; any required serverside components for digital content or digital services are legally seen as an inseparable part of the complete whole.
I.e. were a publisher to take offline any required DRM authentication servers, then that's a modification which removes your access completely - and 100% a refund.
The ONLY way they can get away with that, is if they are to put in solid writing and make clearly evident before purchase, without relegating it to a by-note in the general terms and conditions or end-user license agreement ancilliaries, the exact expiration date up front.
Yes. They can. And not just over Ubisoft deep-sixing existing contracts of sale.
As of this writing, Ubisoft is still advertising e.g. Far Cry 3 on Steam as a title that touts 'innovative multiplayer' while they know they are sunsetting it in september.
This is classified under the directive that handles unfair commercial practices as a misleading commercial practice; specifically a misleading omission. It can be heavily fined and any purchase decisions based on it can be overturned - i.e. you can terminate the contract and be owed a full refund - on grounds of misinformation.
>As of 1st of Jan 2022 the EU requires all member states to uphold in their national laws a new directive for the sale of digital content, which states that publishers literally cannot modify your content purchased on or after said date, in a way that negatively impacts your acess to it or your use of it. That would be viable legal grounds to terminate the original contract of sale, which requires the trader - i.e. Valve - to reimburse you.
>And here's the kicker; any required serverside components for digital content or digital services are legally seen as an inseparable part of the complete whole.
>I.e. were a publisher to take offline any required DRM authentication servers, then that's a modification which removes your access completely - and 100% a refund.
>The ONLY way they can get away with that, is if they are to put in solid writing and make clearly evident before purchase, without relegating it to a by-note in the general terms and conditions or end-user license agreement ancilliaries, the exact expiration date up front.
Is that for games released before 1-1-22 too or only after?
I don't think laws are retroactivelly applicable
But if the game was made in year 2019 but BOUGHT by the customer in 2022...?
Date of purchase is what matters.
Also; most of the directive actually DOES apply retroactively to existing purchases for digital content subject to continuous supply. However, article 19 - the article that is relevant here wrt post-sale modification of content in existing purchases, expressly DOES NOT apply to existing purchases from before 2022-01-01.
(cont.)
Something I just realized:
Even if article 19 doesn't apply to purchases dated before 2022-01-01, the articles regarding the right to a conforming product still DO apply.
That means if a publisher pulls the plug on an old title and the storefront didn't expressly state that it had an expiration date, i.e. it wasn't expressly listed as a defining characteristic of the product (for which burden of proof lies with the trader!), then that technically constitutes either failure to supply or otherwise (partially) broken content that does not conform to contract.
You would be within your legal rights to demand that the trader restore conformity; either by repairing the defect - i.e. restoring the missing functionality; or by offering you a partial refund equatable to the loss of functionality. And if they fail or refuse to do so; and the defect is not minor (where again burden of proof is on the trader to prove that it WOULD be minor); then you are again within legal rights to terminate the contract and demand a full refund.
So whichever way you slice it, digital distribution platform owners are screwed unless they manage to put a leash on their publishers
...or find an effective way to bullshit themselves out of this one.
Either way: pass the popcorn. Interesting times 'a comin'.
Web regulations are about the best thing EU has been doing lately
Good thing the only Ubishit game I've paid for in the last decade was Watch_Dogs, which I got for $2.
Last 20 an mmorpg shut down forever, do you think the people that invested money on it feel cheated?
Isn't Ubisoft EU based? Can't they bust their balls over this?
They don't have to be based in the EU to get busted by the EU. Once you're trading with EU-citizens you abide by the rules.
Though I'm sure they're tucked in nice and snug legally.
another source since people are moronic
https://www.taylorvinters.com/article/when-software-counts-as-goods-unless-its-a-service
tldr: software is a "sale of goods" meaning it's not a service, so corporations are not allowed to just yank your product away whenever they feel like it.
of course this is the EU, and not some 2nd world shithole like USA.
And that's why everything is a "service" now.
they don't get to decide what is and what isn't a service. If you bought a perpetual license, meaning you paid once for something, it's not a service.
That's why World of Warcraft is a service, since you pay continually to keep access. Same with Office 365 etc.
They don't get to redefine previously bought software later either.
>tldr: software is a "sale of goods"
It isn't.
As of 2022-01-01 digital content and digital services are officially a third pillar that is neither goods nor services, but shares aspects from both. Critically; it mostly joins together the aspects of both that are positive to the consumer, to the detriment of the trader. Concrete examples are a right to conformity as per goods as well as the lasting support of the trader and their lasting liability for issues occurring over time as per services for digital content that is in continuous supply, as is e.g. the case for online accounts with libraries that offer on-demand download and install.
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32019L0770
the source you posted LITERALLY outlines that software CAN be classified as a service and not a good if it's a SaaS.
If you subscribe to a service, you are NOT purchasing a good. If you agree to subscription terms you are NOT signing a purchase agreement as opposed to you buying a game and clicking OK on the EULA.
And companies can create separate goods and services: You can get the GOOD and ignore the EULA when you buy office 2021, you can also get the SERVICE if you "buy" office 365.
Hence why we get so many more apps as services instead of goods.
and that's why i only get my games on gog-games.com
Oh no I cannot play Assassin Creed II multiplayer omg
Good thing I don't think I've ever bought an ubisoft game
Imagine if Denuvo actually worked and all these DLCs and games were lost forever. If you ever wanted proof that piracy is a service problem, here it is.
Would people care if Ubisoft games were lost forever?
>Ubisoft is the only company that does this
You poor soul.
This thread isnt about other companies doing it
This thread is about the industry at large doing it, using ubisoft as the latest exemple
Doesn't look like it to me. We'll just go on a case by case basis on devs down the line anyway.
And? That doesn't change the fact that it happens and my point still stands. You might not care about Ubishit games being lost but other people might. They're far from the only company that it's ok with leaving no record of their past and in doing so, justify piracy.
future games will be 100% streamed from centralized servers, meaning they will be impossible to pirate.
enjoy it while it lasts
>impossible to pirate.
I keep hearing this and it has yet to happen.
Diablo Immortal. That said no one should want to play that. Most of the games that do it are garbage western pyramid schemes.
well good luck pirating software based on what is essentially a high-def video steam.
Once that tech is ready, devs will also start optimizing their games for server-grade tech, meaning even if you got the software, you need server-grade hardware to even run it (terabytes of RAM etc).
comparison doesn't work, because cable tv is not interactive, meaning you're tapping into a signal that does not require you to send data back. Also cannot really compare modern encryption and authentication with cable-tv.
>Once that tech is ready, devs will also start optimizing their games for server-grade tech, meaning even if you got the software, you need server-grade hardware to even run it (terabytes of RAM etc).
Cool, Let's see how much games they'll sell with that model that they've been trying to push for a decade and no one wants to buy. How is the Stadia doing again?
>no one wants to buy
last I checked, the game pass was fairly successful
>last I checked, the game pass was fairly successful
so successful that google already forgot about stadia.
kek.
>game pass
>google stadia
?
>game pass was fairly successful
Not because of the cloud, no matter how much they're pushing it. As you said, watching netflix and playing video games is much different experience and no one wants to play games with input lag and resolution that adjusts itself based on your internet connection to keep that 60fps chugging.
Stadia wasn't ready, but we're reaching a point where similar tech is good enough.
Big companies are already using thin-clients, and essentially just stream all their software from company-run servers or the cloud.
Thin clients meaning they have extremely low system specs, and only need to stream data from a server sitting in a datafarm somewhere.
We're already practically there, we just need higher bandwidth internet to be more commonly available.
>we just need higher bandwidth internet to be more commonly available.
ISPs will never allow this
>we just need higher bandwidth internet to be more commonly available.
And the approval of general public and a consistent internet connection that doesn't faulter. You sound like Don Mattrick telling people that if they want to keep their offline games they should buy a 360.
Right now, at least in the US, ISPs are pretty pissed they're not getting a share of that streaming revenue, which is why they keep trying to put out data caps and shit up transfer speeds. Ironically, corporate greed from the other end of the spectrum might slow this down until some sort of agreement is reached.
And to be fair, streaming to a remote device with something like Parsec or Steam Play isn't that awful anymore so long as your connection on both ends is stable, but as the -only- way to play a game, I would probably just avoid buying it unless it was free to play. I've already passed up any Ubisoft game released after 2013 and any EA game after Origin's launch, so I don't think something even more draconian is going to suddenly get my attention.
I was playing FFXIV last night and had finally reached the final boss of a long ass dungeon and then my internet went out for a second and I had to do the whole thing all over again.
The idea that all games would become dependent on an internet connection to play is a nightmare.
Considering I'm only playing emulated games now, I don't care. I honestly don't care if I never played another AAA game released after 2022, there has been literally nothing worth playing at all.
I will stick to indie and old games, the only thing that could possibly stop me is if old hardware was no longer manufactured and new CPUs could only run things they specifically came with (IE, to connect you to a streaming server where you don't even have your own OS on your device anymore). I highly doubt things will ever get that draconian in my lifetime.
Cause cable TV piracy doesn't exist
>Tachyon posting
>humanity develops FTL
>uses it to bing bing yahoo
I have not paid for a western video game in literally a decade.
This poster is the man you should strive to be, Ganker.
not my heckin 14 year old game!
Assassin's Creed II had multiplayer?
I understand that online modes are killed off after so many years but the DLC thing is kind of hard to justify unless you're going to reimburse people who bought it.