Umm… I thought japs were loyal and didn’t cheat?!?
https://x.com/kaphotics/status/1692728107277353468?s=46&t=jnmeq5q9YRyUmqPlWNmPUg
Umm I thought japs were loyal and didnt cheat?!?
Umm… I thought japs were loyal and didn’t cheat?!?
https://x.com/kaphotics/status/1692728107277353468?s=46&t=jnmeq5q9YRyUmqPlWNmPUg
Can’t wait to see the sub 1100 elo nerds defend this.
>elo
fanfic meta
Hey verlisify
>MUH ELO
Give us one good reason to care about your fanfic numbers.
Even if he's talking about showdown's vgc ladder?
Cheat is good. Simple as.
ELO is a Showdown only thing, I thought you only cared about VGC?
what advantage did he get?
None. It's a completely legal Amoongus.
It's not hard, it's long. I spent 5 hours doing raids today just to change four Pokemon's tera types because I had to inject them into PLA and SS and trade them up.
>it's long. I spent 5 hours doing raids today just to change four Pokemon's tera types because I had to inject them into PLA and SS and trade them up.
If you did regularly raid since SV's launch you'd have around 200-800 tera shards in your inventory by itself. The fact is you gays don't play the game unless you need to then cry about "muh grind". Raiding everyday takes like 10 minutes
Yes because every day since November 18th I had time to grind tera shards on a buggy mess everyday.
Then why do you want to compete in the official competitive if you can't spend 10 minutes playing the game?
They can't answer that bc they're the equivalent of people who are weirdly obsessed with things they clearly don't like.
All miserable people are cancer to communities and Pokemon has done nothing to stop them imo
VGC and raids are two completely different game modes. Hope this helps.
Part of the same fricking game. Play the game if you want to play the optional multiplayer pvp
That adds up to a lot more than 10 minutes, downy
>10 minutes
deboonked
I have maxed out all tera shards and I took a 3 month break from the game. It's not hard and it doesn't take that long. Just with the blissey event you could do it in less than 2 hours per day. If you can't commit that then you aren't serious and shouldn't compete.
>If you did regularly raid since SV's launch you'd have around 200-800 tera shards in your inventory by itself. The fact is you gays don't play the game unless you need to then cry about "muh grind". Raiding everyday takes like 10 minutes
Why would I regularly play a game that isn't fun? Why do I need to play every day? It's a game, not a job. I should be playing it for fun. The fact that I have to jump through hoops to inject legal Pokemon now greatly reduces my fun and I REALLY hope they add something to the DLC that either lets you change tera types easier or just adds more base Pokemon to SV (meaning I could just directly inject them to SV).
>Why would I regularly play a game that isn't fun? Why do I need to play every day?
You need to play regularly (every day) so you can tell yourself you are having fun (regularly)
>have to jump through hoops to inject legal Pokemon now greatly reduces my fun
Anon I…cured your ailment, how are you feeling?
why do you insist on playing a game you don't find fun? seriously just play a different game like showdown or stadium. If you want enough resources to raise competitive pokemon you have to play the game. you are participating in a competitive sport not playing a casual game so don't expect it to be "fun". if they added a way for you to change tera types easier you people would still cheat because you refuse to play the game.
>competitive sport
vgc players when they have to play the game for 10 minutes in order to compete at the world championship
The raid system got boring about 2 months after the game launch. And let's not talk about how buggy they were, specially if you played online.
>If you did regularly raid since SV's launch
>have to play shit has SV raids just to have competitive pokemon
Sounds gross. Who the frick wants to play SV. Pokemon Showdown is the only good Pokemon game.
>Who the frick wants to play SV.
People who want to play SV in tournaments hopefully. If you don't then you have no horse in this race no matter how much VGC on showdown you play and distinguish it apart from the game.
>waste 10 minutes of your life EVERY DAY since the game’s out on the stupid grind chore
Beyond salvation
>Spend a week travelling to a pokémon tourney instead of dedicating solely tourism
Beyond salvation
I've actually done that and I have about two boxes full of lvl 100 completely EV trained mons, have done tons of Blissey raids to get the candy for all that, have never changed a tera type even once. You want to know the most shards I have in any one type? 218 in Psychic. You're insane or a liar if you legitimately have over 800 shards in one type.
get good
Get good at what? I literally did what you defined as good. Stop cheating.
>have done tons of Blissey raids
>218 in Psychic
I don't believe this., I got 200 Ice shards from doing Delibird raids at the start of the game coming out and I didn't even have level 5 raids yet. Farmed Greninja and ended up with 400 poison shards. You're telling me farming Blissey raids and you only maxed out at 218 for one stat?
*for one type?
You really don't get that much compared to how much level candy you get out of it, and there's 18 types nowadays. I never bothered grinding any other kind of raid over and over again, but I did recatch everything I could on there once I could get the 5 and 6 star versions for the better IVs and higher levels, some I did a couple times of course for a more ideal nature/description. I don't even break past 100 shards in Fire and Water.
I guess you're either an unlucky homosexual or I'm a lucky homosexual.
Why the FRICK would you want to punish yourself with doing raids every single fricking day with how fricking awful they are? Are you a masochist?
Why would you punish yourself by paying exorbitant amount of money to fly to a foreign company and then get disqualified?
Fella, only 3 people got dq'd for poorly made pokemon. A LOT of people still genned and were completely fine.
just 3? why people is making it look like if it was over 9k DQs? everyone from bulbapedos, pokemex macacos, redditos and twittergays and JP sites are acting like if GF/TPCi just arrested millions of hackers with new secret legality checks?
Because morons are blowing it the frick out of proportion. Pokemon isn't suddenly cracking down on genners, they just checked to make sure transfer only Pokemon went through HOME.
>they just checked to make sure transfer only Pokemon went through HOME.
i imagined this or ball legality checks were the case. there's documentation of this? I don't see Kurt or any dataminer saying anything regarding the situation
>why are all the e-celebs and fansites on TPCI's payroll shilling for them?
>Playing the shitty ass parts just so you can interact with the only decent part of the modern games these days
This is why Game Freak gets away with what they do.
Isn't it possible to inject directly into Scarlet and Violet?
If you have a hacked Switch, yes. If you're using trade bots they null out the home tracker, meaning it would appear that Pokemon was natively caught in SV, so injecting a Pokemon that can only come from Home would throw up a big red flag.
Trade bots?
Feeling better about himself as 0 ATK autism is generally pretty irrelevant.
Its minmaxing for a scenario that basically never comes up.
so it's not cheating.
He edited the IVS using a 3rd party software. That’s cheating. People were DQ’d for it.
But he wasn't, and according to the moronerino chuderinos here, if you don'´t get caught it is not cheating. concession accepted, YWNBAW, hi verlis, hello joe, and bugus in anusu.
He modified a Pokemon when the rules are against that
He cheated
Ah good, someone is saying shit that was never said here. Steroids are fine if you aren't caught using them and all that.
Real statements from /vp/ trust.
Its bypassing work in the same exact same vein as any other genning.
Steroids give you an objective boost in performance, though. Injecting genned pokemon doesn't make you good at the game.
Steroids and working out may lead you to the same physical potential, but steroids as a method to acquire that potential is amoral and against policy of any sport leagues
>Implying the time investment needed for making competitively viable Pokemon is anywhere near what is required of someone trying to get into bodybuilding.
Modifying a Pokémon stats with PKHEX or anything that isn’t given in game is cheating.
You say that but this was done by someone who won worlds, I think I trust the odds of it coming up if he risked cheating to do it.
>Lvl 50 0- Atk Umbreon Foul Play vs. 244 HP / 188+ Def Amoonguss: 39-46 (9 - 10.6%) -- possibly the worst move ever
>Lvl 50 0- Atk Umbreon Foul Play vs. 244 HP / 188+ Def Amoonguss: 34-42 (7.9 - 9.7%) -- possibly the worst move ever
Yeah I'm sure it definitely wasn't just autism at play. Gotta have this actually dogshit move do just a bit less, might 20HKO me or something.
Oh whoops those were the fricked calcs.
>0- Atk Umbreon Foul Play vs. 244 HP / 188+ Def Amoonguss: 39-46 (17.7 - 20.9%) -- possible 5HKO
>0- Atk Umbreon Foul Play vs. 244 HP / 188+ Def Amoonguss: 36-43 (16.3 - 19.5%) -- possible 6HKO
Keep in mind the sitrus is going to mess up this "math" anyway. Not that a 6HKO would be good even if we weren't including that.
0 ATK makes you take less damage from confusion and strength sap heals the opponent less
Also less damage from Foul Play*, which is highly relevant for Pokemon weak to Dark.
*only if they're a special attacker
isn't the Pokemon still valid? also
i dont have any issues with this tbh.
It’s legitimately not that hard to assemble a team for comp unless you are resetting for a zero speed/ zero attack iv legend. Other than that If you hack correctly you won’t be caught. The people that did were the idiots who injected a Hisui mon right into SV.
Before you reply to this post with some bot reply post elo/master ball rank. Let’s see the credentials before you try and talk about competitive Pokémon.
>injected a Hisui mon right into SV
Let me guess, they gave them regular balls instead of the turquoise one?
I tested this back when pkhex was in beta for transfer and no matter what ball i set it was always the Homeball in SV, So they can't frick that up.
Regular balls can work with any Hisui mon that is not enamorus. Breeding lets you pass on balls from one of the parents.
Wasn't the guy's beef with Landorus?
Why'd you use PLA for injection point for Lando when its in Swoshit and every gen before
FAKE! FAKE! FFFFFAAAAAKKKKKKKKEEEEEE!!!!!!
THIS IS PHOTOSHOP AND DANGEROUS MISINFORMATION
>Kurt proves that tournament organizers don't fulfill their responsibilities the way they claim to be
>Professional players want to prove that genmon is normal, they're full of cheaters. Just don't get caught, okay?
Guess this is why I don't actively participate in competitive
? post elo
>y-you firs-
? post elo
? post your elo
>60 games gets you to the top rank
lmao
>noooo it has to be a pointless grind like Smogon elo, he only wins 70% of his matches he's not good!
You'd expect post game grind to last more than a weekend though.
60 matches to determine a player is the best worldwide is moronic. look at any other game with a ranked system because smogon lives rent free in your head. imagine getting to rank 1 in SFV from 60 games
It has seasons in which your rank resets but not your mmr (hidden). 60 games is perfectly reasonable amusing he played a lot previously.
It doesn't say he's the best or anything, just in the highest tier
And should a ranking system not quickly put a player into their appropriate tier?
When you wanna be the very best, a bit of cheating is mandatory. Ash should've taught you in the anime.
as if they'd turn a new leave on DQing actual cheaters
Ban him.
and just like that, the "stop cheating" gays ignore this and will continue to be braindead. the same talking points will continue infinitely
No, nothing has changed. He cheated, end of.
>I thought japs were loyal and didn’t cheat?
nobody said that
Absolutely people were saying that. "don't cheat"tards were actually saying japanese players wouldn't do it because they're in japan and game modification is illegal there.
All he had to do was breed a zero iv attack. With the power items this takes literally less than 30 seconds.
If it was that fast, he'd have done it that way. The fact of the matter is injecting is orders of magnitude faster than anything in game.
It takes 10 minutes of development work to change confusion damage to highest attacking stat, highest stat not including hp if gamefreak had balls
>The warning symbol is right there
Holy shit veggie sea players are moronic.
sus
Based world champion cheaterbro
Get fricked "stop cheating" tards
No one said that. Japs are a hell of a lot more trustworthy than burgerfats though.
>282
Jesus
I get korea says 0% of sample, but if all of the teams are hacked for them, its safe to assume any that didnt make it still hacked.
Ban Korea from Worlds from now on.
all top 4 players in the Korean nationals got disqualified for cheating, so you're on the right track with that logic.
>Spanish 3/27
Gen 9 was a mistake
>Europe
They don't care, the autists here romanticize Japan. Even if they did hack they will make excuses for it.
>Genning
>Genning, Japan
If they want people to stop hacking, they need to make it even EASIER to make a competitive team. The EV resetter coming back is a nice change, but keep on streamlining it.
Maybe Pokemon could somehow remember different EV spreads and could change between them.
0 IV tutor that's played as a joke in-game.
Do NOT make it so you have to farm an hour to change one tera type. Sure, it makes us play the game, but those raids specifically are lagfests for no good reason. Sitting and watching the timer go down while you can do nothing is not fun.
it already is easy to make a competitive team and further bending over backwards for cheaters isn't going to stop cheating. y'all will just move on to another excuse like accessibility and rng if they added what you said. the rules just need to be enforced and cheaters need to be permabanned. y'all can not seriously put in a couple hours of effort to make a competitive pokemon team and that's really sad.
>y'all
WELL HOOOOWWDYYY Y'ALL MUHFUGGIN BIX NOOD N SHEEEEIT NAHM SAYIN?
they'll cheat anyway
The way to make change is to stop cheating, and because you're not playing the game, stop taking part in competitive until they make those changes.
It's on Game Freak/TPC to crack down on "cheating", people will gen until it's impossible to do so. There's no reason to not cheat, even the world champion agrees.
Or they could just stop caring how people get mons with perfectly legal stats, instead of being extremely vain and acting insulted that people dare to hex edit their shitty games.
>0 IV tutor that's played as a joke in-game.
it doesn't even have to be that, just have them be sold in the shop with the herbs that lower friendship after clearing the game
the fact of the matter is that there's probably nothing that will appease gentards
the only thing that Pokemon can do to appease everyone is make it so you can just generate Pokemon (set stats/IVs/EVs etc) in the game for battles.
>those raids specifically are lagfests for no good reason
Because the switch is an underpowered dogshit tablet, mystery solved.
OMFG. The dude was right all the time.
Sorry. I misunderstand you.
They hated him cause he spoke the truth.
Umm... Now those lines feel like a clown
kek
>people received jail time for selling hacked pokemon on ebay for thousands of dollars
ftfy
That usually only applies to people selling injected pokémon/modifying other ppls save data for money.
Strip his title.
The difference between this and the players that got DQ’d is that Shohei didn’t get caught. That’s literally it. Play by the rules or don’t get caught, whataboutism is pure cope.
>be told the rules
>be warned about the rules before anything starts again
>cheat anyway
>get caught
BUBUBBTUTUT HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN
>rules have been the same since 2009
>rules change 8 days before the final tournament of the year
>even then, they're not equally enforced
bravo
>rules change 8 days before the final tournament of the year
Did they change or were they just now enforced seriously?
>even then, they're not equally enforced
Who failed hack check but didnt get a mon/team DQed?
They literally sent out an email 8 days before worlds saying they were changing the hack checks, and that mons that passed for regionals and nationals THIS YEAR might no longer pass, and also as an added precaution you probably shouldn't even use traded pokemon.
That isn't a rule change, that was an improved system to better check for rule violations. And they're allowed to do that whenever the frick they want. Honestly, people should be thankful they told them they were improving the system at all because they have no requirements to do that. They gave cheaters more than a week to fix their shit, but they still chose not to. That's entirely on them. Just play the fricking game and stop cheating. If they didn't cheat, they wouldn't be in this position, these are just the consequences of their own actions.
imagine how many people they could have caught and dq'd if they didn't. would have been glorious
I wholly expect them to not tell them when they do it next year. Like, imagine them improving it AGAIN so they can catch illegal Pokemon like the OP and then they just don't tell them this time and hand out 5 year bans because of what happened this year. Maybe they'll all get a weeks notice about the bans instead of the improvements.
Honestly I dont think they feel this way. They wont budge on the hacking rule, we all know pros hack and if Pokemon wanted to allow it by now they would have, its a move to protect thier IP. This is probably the most generous concession they are willing to make as far as accomidating pros; it's like the FBI telling Trump they are going to raid his house and they really don't want to find any classified documents taken from the White House in there when they arrive. They don't even owe these players that much, but they also probably don't want their most popular, reputable and skilled players to be disqualified because of the harm that causes to an already divided fanbase of players (since so many Pokemon comp players stick to or main Smogon Singles) and the bad look it gives the tournament structure and tPC overall. Remember whatever our western thoughts on cheating are they will be heavily scrutinized in Japanese scoiety, dishonorabru dispray.
being unable to use hacked pokemon that you or a friend illegitimately obtained has always been a part of the rules. changing how the hack check works helps enforces the no cheating rule.
>what the hell officer? Why are you arresting me for smoking meth on my porch?
>Sure it's illegal but the police never came around here before, this has never been an issue!
>I don't care that the chief of police called me and told me the cops were coming to patrol my neighborhood earlier this week, you expect me to care now when you never did before?
there have been no rule changes
it's a minor hack that isn't even worth the trouble, amoonguss isn't ever going to be taking all that much damage from a foul play
Could someone post the team of the first guy that got DQ and whined on twater?
Everyone cheats, Japs are just smarter about it.
I love when Kurt checks completely i doubt 99% of /vp/ would be able to tell if a pk file was modified, Hell even i haven't gotten all of it down yet.
If everyone just builds and tests their teams on Showdown anyway then what does injecting/genning matter? You design your team and then it takes no time at all, not even a day, to build it in SV for competitions. We're literally splitting hours of time here at this point. It doesn't matter either way.
Because genners don't play the games, anon
Honestly what's the problem? Let's say it takes 40 hours to beat the story and have open access to resources in the postgame (likely a vast overestimate if you're not even invested in the base game). Let's also say that's the case for opening things up in like DLC and Legends Arceus (the exact numbers aren't too important). That's like 40 hours... per year. Plus the few hours to maybe a day max it takes to conjure up a team from Showdown.
The time genners save is inconsequential to competition. 50 hours saved in a given year is not going to make or break anything. That's around 15 minutes a day over the course of 6 months. Plus I doubt most of them don't casually beat the main story anyway.
Because it's against the rules, it is not that hard to understand. Those are the rules of the competition, if you're going to break them you can frick off, period.
I understand the rule. It's just that following or breaking it makes no difference.
when did Ganker become a bunch of bootlickers for a video game publishing company of all things
anything to be a contrarian, it's fatherless behavior tbh
We aren't going to hugbox delusions, always been that way always will
>break rules
>get DQed
Simple as
True but people will still do it because even if you reduce teambuilding to 30 minutes people will b***h that that takes too long too. Freezai even admitted to as much, if it's an iota more convinient people will still gen.
the pro-genners are begging for more accessibility so more people go to events and spend $60 for another pokemon battle revolution. as long as nobody cheats, legit players don't care if 97% of the community gets banned and nobody plays. I agree the pro-genners are bootlickers and shills.
Why are you bootlicking for smogon?
where did I mention Smogon?
the people not wanting to play the game are the bootlickers and shills? Ok, sure.
this. idiots on this site will say or day anything just to have perceived leg up on those le spooky twitter boogeymen sjws
Since when did wanting people to follow the damn rules of the damn tournament they signed up for become bootlicking behavior. Boggles the mind.
you guys should stop cheating
I'm almost sure they will grab the Pokemon and copy it literally for distribution even if "a certain little something" internally shouldn't check out, same thing happened last time with a champion distro that got dissected, can't remember which mon it was, Palafin or Garganacl something like that
If I got a Pokemon that should be from Hisui or Paldea and never had a Hone distribution event but the OT's name is HOME can I write that off as hacked? 3 different Enamorus' I have say their OT is HOME.
Anyone can name their file HOME if they want too while playing PLA, not enough grounds for hacking unless all 3 Enamorus have the same name and OT numbers. Besides, HOME specific distros have the HOME logo in the top right as the their last game transferred; they will keep this logo if you don't transfer them outside HOME to a game
I've seen them as well, it's obviously a bot, I don't see why anyone would make their OT "home". A bunch of Enamorus I farmed off the GTS also have the ID of 993401 despite random OTs, so that's also a sign of a bot.
>investing in speed and special attack when the stat isnt at 31 IVs
Can someone explain this to me? Or does the green highlight on the stat just mean it was Hyper Trained?
Based genchad taking the prize from the breedcucks. Literally can't stop winning while the breeders continue to cry while grinding lmao. Sorry kiddos, its not cheating no matter how much you whine about it!
Uh, how did he get the info of the mons? I thought that information was private
When the owner makes the team public with a rental code
suss
Verlisify did nothing wrong
Not one person posted master ball/ reg d elo itt but lots of people claiming to know shit about competitive.
Smogonchads can't stop winning. No one ever got DQ'd from a Smogon tournament for not grinding out a Pokemon the "legitimate" way.
Smogon's version of cheating is getting a bot to shadow invade someone's profile's games and steal their team in a closed sheet environment
Smogon introduced the ability to disallow spectators because of that. Simple problem, simple solution. 2 people got banned and an easy fix was introduced, once again proving that Smogon > Game Freak.
Having a smogon account should qualify as genning and get you banned from tournaments
Get good
Play the real game, cheater
>Play the shit games
lmao no
I don't play the shit games, that's why I don't play smogon
>I don't play the shit games
If you've played any of the games after B2/W2, of course you have.
move platinum to 7/10 it's not good
Platinum is great. It fixed a lot of the issues holding back Diamond and Pearl. Pokemon variety went way up, difficulty was improved, there is way more postgame, and a lot of the speed issues were resolved.
>DiaPer 7/10
>bdsp, the biggest flaw being it's 99% a straight port of DiaPer, 1/10
?
>the biggest flaw being it's 99% a straight port
I wish
>Horrible, hideous artstyle
>Fairy type
>Moveset nerfs to just about fricking everything. Pokemon have less moves than they had in Gen 4
>Affinity mechanics destroying any semblance of difficulty
>EXP Share is gone, replaced with EXP All that can't be turned off
It's a straight downgrade. BD/SM doesn't improve one iota on the originals, and the originals are already flawed. FR/LG and HG/SS improved on the third versions from Gen 1 and Gen 2 respectively. OR/AS and BD/SP fail to even match the originals let alone their superior 3rd versions.
Uh no. I like the chibi style. However, it's just straight-up copy-pasta from DP, even those flaws that have been fixed in Platinum.
Tier lists are more often than not driven by emotion than critical thought.
have you not heard of things being better/worse than the sum of their parts?
Why do you compete in shit games' tours?
I don't. I play Pokemon Showdown. Game Freak can lick my nuts for all I care, I'm not buying another Pokemon game until they're good again.
>all but 3 of the bottom row are utter shit
>"good games"
Zoomzoom
>League A has rules
>people in League A break rules
>get banned from League A
>League B has rules
>people in League B break rules
>get banned from League B
>this proves B is better than A
Not following
Of course you're not, boot licker. Smogon has a problem and introduces a solution that makes everyone happy immediately after. Game Freak has a problem and arbitrarily bans a select few people out of the entire pool that is filled with cheaters.
lol no smogon deals more damage with every solution they introduce
Smogon are the bootlickers
>Smogon has a problem and introduces a solution that makes everyone happy immediately after
Tell that to Blaziken, Dugtrio, and Sandslash fans.
Smogon ban what they're too stupid to beat
You can still use them. Also, Sandslash was never banned.
False
>False
But you can still use Dugtrio in every generation. You can also use Blaziken in every generation from 3 to 8 (since it isn't in 9 yet).
The original claim was "smogon makes decisive desicions that please everyone" and that was false. Blaziken was banned instead of Speed Boost, much like how Houndstone was banned instead of Last Respects despite Houndstone being unable to revenge sweep without LS. You cannot claim such black and white overcorrections even if ammended were totally positively recieved.
You can still use all the "banned" mechanics and Pokemon with the exception of Funbro. You might not like them being banned from weaker tiers where they're too strong, but that's a moot point since most of the players of those tiers prefer them gone.
Lilligant and Oricorio are banned from PU, but you can still use them in NU, RU, UU, OU, and Ubers if you want. They're not banned in their entirety, they're banned from specific tiers where they're too strong.
Not sure what funbro is so excuse me if I'm about to be redundant, but evasion claus and Baton Pass as examples are still banned in ubers.
Funbro is a set that is designed to cause an endless battle loop. It uses Recycle, Heal Pulse, Block, Slack Off, and runs a Leppa Berry so it has infinite PP, infinite health, and the opponent cannot even struggle out of the lock. You literally cannot win or lose in a Funbro trap. The game no longer has a wincon or losecon.
Evasion and Baton Pass are usable in Anything Goes. Say what you will, but Anything Goes is an incredibly popular tier.
Ah, I have heard of that before after all, just not by name. Thank you
Endless battle clause gives you an autolose for trying a funbro strat btw
none of the shit you ban is too strong y'all just refuse to adapt and are bad at the game
Occam's razor suggests that the people who play the tier a lot and know what is or isn't overpowered and make tiering decisions based on community input aren't bad and refusing to adapt.
Garchomp is obviously too strong to be palling around with Unfezant, Luxray, and Goodra, so it gets banned from those lower tiers. Are the people who want to play matches with those weaker Pokemon just unable to adapt?
Spoken like a true shitter
way to use an exaggerated example to misrepresent what I'm saying
The original claim was that Smogon found a couple of cheaters and made quick and easy solutions to the cheating issue that made everyone happy.
>Smogonchads can't stop winning.
Volcarona is banned from OU because they want to ban Terastalizing.
Reminder that S/V are so buggy that there were false positives from legitimately caught pokemon, while the vast majority of hacked mons passed the check.
>Reminder that S/V are so buggy that there were false positives from legitimately caught pokemon
Nice full house get. Got a source for that though?
Saw people posting about it on twitter. Granted, grain of salt considering it could just be people salty they got caught. The fact that 90% of players were not dq'd is proof enough that the system isn't flawless, just look at the op.
>The fact that 90% of players were not dq'd is proof enough that the system isn't flawless, just look at the op.
Or that tPC's hack checks are still too immature. I'd be interested to see the breakdown of everyone's rental teams and see who really was vs wasn't hacking in Worlds, but I also want a billion dollars.
I am uncomfortable with your assumption that literally every player is cheating but isn't caught, as that is something neither of us can prove no matter how prevolent cheaters in the league may be. I in good faith believe there is a higher than likley chance that to be the case but that is no more than a hunch.
That said, a false positive is much much worse than a false negative in this case especially a player has no ability to combat a ruling like that. I was hearing about all the DCs and Sudden Death rounds at worlds, much bigger bullshit that deserves the fans' ire more than hack calls, and do question how compotent tPC are in regards to running their own tournaments, but if false negatives were found and used to enforce then that supercedes wverything else mentioned thus far.
It's actually incredibly hard to hack check since genned mons are indistinguishable from "normal" Pokemon if you inject them properly.
True. I think at this point we're reaching the same level of lock breaking network security does, because whatever method GF impliments to hack check will be discovered and ways around will be found, thus looping the cycle. The cat-and-mouse nature doesn't excuse the morality of rule breaking but it is a significant realization to discuss.
It's not even that. Pokemon are just data (and not much). There's no difference between a 123456 that the game randomly generated and a 123456 typed in by a player. If you are injecting Pokemon within the legal bounds of the game, then there's nothing a hack check can do to detect that. As long as the games support offline play and client generation of Pokemon, there is no way to 100% guaranteed information security.
>As long as the games support offline play and client generation of Pokemon, there is no way to 100% guaranteed information security.
The logical solution, or evolution to this is turn pokemon into a MMORPG.
Is this what you were talking about or was it an actual false flag tripping hack check?
i feel like the guy in question pretending he doesn't cheat and getting pissy when he gets DQ'd is more likely than the judge giving him a loss over nothing at all.
but that's just my take.
Based Kasty.
I hope showdown gets send a cease and desist and gets shut down, it's literal piracy
I was told Smogon was already contacted by Pokemon and were essentially told "don't step on our toes any further and we'll let you stay"
Not good enough. I want them shut down, and preferably anyone running it in prison.
Game Freak can't legally do much to Smogon. Smogon is an information repository like Wikipedia. You can't strike them down for hosting information.
As far as Pokemon Showdown goes, all Game Freak could legally do is get Smogon to stop using their assets and names. Smogon could still run the battle simulator, but every Pokemon would have to be renamed. A good example is how Game Freak contacted Paheal about hosting Pokemon porn and said to not use their name, so Paheal changed Pokemon into Porkyman and went about their day. Smogon would have to stop using the models and sprites and music from actual Pokemon games, but they could just make placeholders and then have someone (who is TOTALLY not affiliated) create a script to change them back to normal.
Showdown uses battle engine code from the S/M source code leaks. They can't win in a lawsuit if GF ever decides to go after them.
kinda this, big N barely did anything to Dolphin devs and Steam just blocked them from being compatible with the Deck due them having nintendo code bundled with the emulator
>big N barely did anything to Dolphin devs and Steam just blocked them from being compatible with the Deck due them having nintendo code bundled with the emulator
Not exactly how it went.
Valve sent a letter to Nintendo about Dolphin being on their store. Nintendo claims that it's illegal for Valve to host it on their store (in regards to Dolphin being able to break cryptography in roms), Valve kicks Dolphin out.
They can just reimplement the shit in a different manner
N-No…This can’t be…Muh GLORIOUS NIPPON! They are like filthy Americans (I wish I wasn’t American)! They don’t ride on a bike in circles for half the day like me who has wasted countless hours making legit(tm) official(tm) Pokemon(tm) teams! NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
>N-No…This can’t be…Muh I wish I wasn’t American
And then you're what? Weeaboo?
WIDEN UP THE DAMAGE ROLLS BY 18%
>the new method of checking isn't actually checking if the mons are hacked in, it's just checking for a trade glitch because the current most used method is a trade duplication glitch with home
>legitimate mons can get flagged as hacked if the glitch happens to them
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no dummy, discord trade bots delete the HOME tracker. this isn't a HOME glitch. it only happens to players who are using these trade bots to cheat
If the bot was intentionally programmed to delete that bit of data, that'd be extremely based. It'd force genners to only use their pokemon on friendly battles and the like.
>lol I can just fix the missing data in PkHex
If you are using a trading bot in the first place, then I highly doubt you can manage a simple tool such as Pkhex.
>Hopefully no amoongus mystery gift in the future
These homies have been getting perfect IV dittos and perfect IV shinies in wondertrade all these years, but an amoongus with 0 attack is too much
Counterpoint.
Kimura’s Switch was hacked consequently making their pokemon “look” hacked because ??
>To study the pandemic—No, lol. … if you don’t trust someone … you’re likely not going to listen to that person
Literally all we need is a 0 IV item and you eliminate any reason to hack at all outside of sheer laziness.
Does anyone ever call him out on how he just magically has the pkm files for these people that he accuses?
Same question but no answer
players post their rental codes, he downloads them with a bot, and checks them in pkhex?
he the dude that made the hack tool
he just down loads the team with rental codes and scans them with the pkhex.
Making the hack tool is not an implicit approval of its use for illegal purposes such as going against the written agreement you accept when signing for Worlds. If you want editable, battle-ready mons at all times, play Showdown.
Agreed
>amoongus
Why am I the only person in this thread pointing out the name of this Pokemon
Cause people are busy explaining 69 reasons why the Japanese can't cheat
E-sports is a moronic concept made up by losers who can't accomplish anything of worth.
The game itself is fine. Is socially inadequate idiots whose ego is way too high to understand the most basic convivence rules that ruin the fun for everyone.
I advocate for every competitor to show up with obviously hex edited mons as a form of protest. TPC saying it's against the rules to hex edit is pure, concentrated vanity and should not be tolerated.
so leaving morals besides, did they modify the legality checks with this worlds? looks like Regulation C and D are the same
People showed up with Urshifu and Ursalunas that didn’t have Swsh/PLA data respectively lol
surely that wasn't everything, no ball checks, no wonky IVs or anything else?
no. its simple, the injected ursaluna right into SV and never once put it in home.
injecting a hisui/ galar origin (G Moltres, Urshifu) right into SV sets off the hack check because the game sees its origin game as SV which cant be possible.
I don't do comp pokemon but it always came off as moronic and I really can't understand how you get into it.
Showdown gays I get since you can min max with presses of a button but I see people breed hundreds of eggs for hours and I see pure distilled autism.
Guys I have a confession to make. I've been using my friend's turbo controller and farming the Academy Tournament while I go to work or sleep. I've been passively farming money so I can get all the vitamins, mints, caps, and auctions I want done. granted most all my money went to auctions and I do still farm raids for shards. Am I a cheater hypocrite? It's not hacking the game but it is using 3rd party hardware for an advantage.
Nobody gives a damn about hacking training items into the game, nerd. The rule clearly says moddifying the mon via external tools is illegal. Items are in-game tools, hence not illegal. You could easily hack items in and train a perfectly legitimate mon but you won't do it because you are so lazy you rather gen.
>but you won't do it because you are so lazy you rather gen.
you misunderstand, that's my point; I'm not genning, only the turbo. I'm serious here. Is it fair for me to criticize genning and the integrity of the sport but do this?
I don't know what kind of advantage that controller gives you. But the point is simple: using in-game tools is completly fine even if you hacked the items in. The rule is "don't use external tools to modify the mons", you are free to hack 990 rare candies and mints if you want to. The point is don't use PkHex or a trading bot.
>I don't know what kind of advantage that controller gives you
farming millions of poke in hours, I have a Sylveon with Amulet coin and just let it tap A. The game spawns you right back at the academy counter to join the tournament again so it just grinds the tournament ad nauseum until Sylveon faints. I usually get at minimum 2 mil before rng gets me
That's an exploit; it's in-game so it should be fine.
who gives a frick
You're a dirty, filthy, no-good cheater. Truly the lowest of the low is what I and anyone with a single moral scruple deem you as. You make me absolutely sick. You should send me your pro-controller in the mail so I can lock it away in my safe to ensure its grotesquely nefarious nature never sees the light of day ever again.
Why should the Amoongus have 18 ATK?
I said it before and I'll say it again
https://archive.palanq.win/vp/thread/54258658/#54258931
Everyone who replied to me then is wrong and I'm right, frick you morons who barely understand Japanese law
Acknowledged. Sorry for doubting, now I kneel.
They didn't do it right, They did it enough to pass the checks.
Is what i want to say but I'm gonna assume you meant that as well
you can see if a stat was edited now? or only he can?
Genners DO have a clear unfair advantage in SV and you have to be braindead to believe otherwise. It takes DAYS to change the teratype on a single Pokémon at times legitimately. Cheaters can at least admit the truth.
The reason I hate VGCtards so much is because they're the reason why dexit happened. They were applauding for the dex cut, guess what you gays still gen your mons, what was the fricking point of not having all my bros on a single cart?
>applauding dexit caused it
sorry? Also nobody is happy to have it, the silver lining is regional dex metas but nobody is saying its a net positive
I remember a lot of popular vgctards defending the decision saying it'll "balance the game" back when it happened.
and I remember everything caveated with an "Well at least..." or "well one up side to this is..."
I remember people saying the upside was that the meta was more varied since more powerful pokemon negate the existence of a lot of pokemon, so as the dex becomes bigger, contrary to thought, the amount of viable pokemon become smaller.
That was true.
There is a reason people desperately have to point at restricted meta to pretend Swsh was unbalanced
How is he able to check his team like that?
I told you I would win worlds with genned Pokemon. xD
>all Dittos in future Pokemon games should have a 4IV minimum with a 1% chance of encountering a 6IV one; they also should be encountered early in the game before the 3rd gym (50% 3IV Ditto, 49% 5IV Ditto, 1% 6IV Ditto)
>introduce a bottle cap that makes a stat 0IVs instantly
>introduce an item or a NPC that can change Pokemon's IVs and EVs permanently
>have the IV judge show up in every Pokemon Center, not just in the postgame
>have the IV screen be detailed with numbers and other kinds of information to discourage even firing up Pkhex, the only thing that must be hidden is the SID and other PID parameters the player does not need to know
>Destiny Knot now transfers all of the parents IVs so 6IV shitters is now guaranteed, no need for bike marathons since the first egg will be guaranteed
>combine the Destiny Knot and Everstone...Destiny Stone? Everknot?
>whatever battle gimmick they will have for any generation, the player shouldn't be hassled with farming at all and instead keep it at 5 or 10, 20 at max instead of 50-100
>allow players to change the Pokeball of their Pokemon as long as they own a ball of that type and it will "consume" that ball if changed...nonetheless keep Masterballs rare and Cherish Balls exclusive, let players have a 6 Beast Ball setup
Nah, frick all of that shit. Just make an "official" Pokemon Showdown app and use that for all VGC events going forward. Want to stop cheaters all together? There you go.
players to change the Pokeball of their Pokemon as long as they own a ball of that type and it will "consume" that ball if changed...nonetheless keep Masterballs rare and Cherish Balls exclusive, let players have a 6 Beast Ball setup
this single single-handedly will cut a lot of stupid genners who can't rear HeX's own documentation
Why doesn't Pokémon just make an official Showdown game? Literally everyone would be happy.
Make it cinematic to appeal to the gays that want a new Stadium, connect to Home or other saves on your Switch and let people use their own teams, have a VGC mode where you can create your own Pokemon for rentals that just stay in the Stadium game.
No more cheating
Quick matchups as officials can set up your registered teams beforehand
People get a new Stadium
>Why doesn't Pokémon just make an official Showdown game? Literally everyone would be happy.
It'll cut into the main series sales. VGCgays will not buy a single game with that, atleast now they have to buy multiple for multiple injection points.
VGC players are not a significant portion of Pokemon players, and if there was a showdown app they would absolutely monetize it with the initial purchase + every new gen's Pokemon as DLC.
I'd say it's more that the actual demand for such a thing is borderline non existent. When the game is completely free, Showdown is said to have around 10000 players at any given time, which is a drop in the bucket compared to the mainline series. There's no money to be made in a dedicated battle simulator, why do you think they stopped making the official ones like Stadium or Battle Revolution? Only way to justify that cost is to make it a F2P gacha where you roll currency for the perfectly Raised mons.
What for?
Pokemon will never make it free and it will cut on their main game's sales
Stop cheating instead and git gud
If you're a professional Pokemon player you should have teams already built and if you don't then find a real job
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I NEED TO HAVE 0 ATTACK FOR THE HANDFUL OF POKEMON WHO RUN FOUL PLAY
>SHUT UP ABOUT MUKROW'S NONEXISTENT USAGE IN REGULATION D
>29 Speed
FORWHATPURPOSE?!
Win in Trick Room mirror match.
Yeah. It's that dumb.
30 and 31 probably result in the same stat because of lvl 50 truncation rounding down. Because lvl 50 stats are mostly just lvl100 atats divided by 2 you would need 2 IVs of difference to affect 1 stat point, 0IV and 1IV will often do the same thing as does 30 vs 31. Only when you have an odd base stat like 103 does it do different because the base stat +IVs + EVs add up before truncation iirc
Hurricane confusions from Zapdos and Pelipper are a thing as well.
how many players actually got disqualified? some sites claim they were just like 5, others claim theyre were docens, other just report 3 or 4
Based Shohei being "smart" enough (which is as simple as uploading your mons to Home) to avoid the check.
That's why he deserved to win. The winner is ALWAYS the smartest cheater.
https://note.com/zeen172m/n/na18578cd87dd
uhh looks like he is apologizing for it right now?
I don't think it's got anything to do with this, apparently years ago he was involved in throwing matches
Good job
Imagine cheating at a game for children.
Imagine getting MAD that you aren't allowed to cheat at a game for children.
The absolute STATE of VGCucks.
>I thought japs were loyal and didn’t cheat?!?
Have you seen how much NTR porn these guys put out? Seriously fricked on the head society.
...was anything in the tournament even running anything where 0ATT would matter?
Probably not. I've heard someone mention a "less than 1% necessity" a couple times. So I guess something like less than 1 out of maybe 100 Pokemon was running foul play. But the VGCgays keep pushing the "What if? What if? It's best to be careful!" opinions.
"Cheaters" have won and will continue to win worlds.
He must be jailed if true
0 Atk amoongus should be so easy to get via breeding