It's not going to be the next cultural phenomenon but it'll probably get brought up within the Undertale fandom for a long time. The demo in 2016 was forgotten after a few months and I personally figured it was normal vaporwave like every other Undertale fangame that wasn't more than a single boss fight. When someone told me it was finished I was amazed the creators stuck it out for seven years without dropping the project
Makes me sad that Dreemurr Reborn was put into an indefinite hiatus (most likely dead), it seem liked that one had potential too, which sucks because Fatz was one of us, who hung around alot and drew stuff for the threads.
Also the fact Dreemurr Reborn was one of the first 'what if' stories before AU's became a thing is impressive.
I dunno, I went in fully expecting to drop it after 20 minutes due to how cringe and gay it'd be. It wasn't really either of those things. It was well made. I still think people who make fan games are sort of moronic, but it was nice.
>people that make fangames are moronic
if you have many years of experience in gamedev then yes, it's a bit moronic to be making fangames when you're like 28 years old. but making derivative fan stuff when you're starting out is one of the most common practices in the entertainment industry at large: animation, music, film, games, you name it. toby fox got his platform making fangames/mods.
these people were like 17 when they started this and they had it in them to not give up on it after the better part of a decade, unlike 99% of people probably would
>I still think people who make fan games are sort of moronic
That's a really strange thought. Why do you have it?
>people that make fangames are moronic
if you have many years of experience in gamedev then yes, it's a bit moronic to be making fangames when you're like 28 years old. but making derivative fan stuff when you're starting out is one of the most common practices in the entertainment industry at large: animation, music, film, games, you name it. toby fox got his platform making fangames/mods.
these people were like 17 when they started this and they had it in them to not give up on it after the better part of a decade, unlike 99% of people probably would
>if you have many years of experience in gamedev then yes, it's a bit moronic to be making fangames when you're like 28 years old
Another one? What's the logic here?
I'm neither of those people, but I assume the idea is that making a fangame, even a really good one, has a lot of restrictions inherent to the format. Your audience will always be a subset of the original work's fanbase, you have to make something new enough to justify itself while still respecting the source material, you'll certainly never get paid for it for legal reasons, etc. It's a huge investment of time and effort to make something that is explicitly an imitation, living in the shadow of something else. So if you have the chops, the resources, and the team to make something like that, why not make something original? Imagine if Square Enix announced that, in secret, their entire development studio had spent the last five years making an unofficial Sly Cooper game. They don't own the property, so they'll never make money off of it, and any recognition they'd get would always be just a portion of the pre-existing Sly Cooper fanbase. Even if the end product is great, most people would probably agree that it was a ridiculous business decision.
But as the second person pointed out, that's not the case for UTY. It was a passion project started by a bunch of teens and amateurs that somehow got seen to completion, and hopefully they will use what they've learned on independent projects going forwards. And good for them, really.
>why not make something original?
Because you like the work you're making a fan product of. Is that really so difficult to fathom? You know fan games and products aren't a new phenomenon, right?
no anon you don't understand i NEED to make money off of EVERYTHING i do or i need to find a way to make money off of everything i do because enjoying things is for gays
No, I'm trying to understand both sides of the argument. I should have clarified that I myself don't think that people making fangames are moronic or anything like that; people have found much lesser causes to devote their lives to. It's quite impressive to be so inspired by a work of art that you'd be willing to sacrifice so much of your time and energy making a love letter to said art.
But I also understand that such motivation is the exception to the rule, and plenty of others will not get or appreciate that devotion. You and I are here because we enjoy what the UTY team created, but that's not a universal opinion. Some people will look at Yellow and think that the end product is nothing more than an imitation, and so would say that the effort has been wasted trying to ride UT's coattails. Likewise, think about how many anons have said that they won't touch TS!US on the basis of it being an Undertale AU. Those people would likely say that trying to follow in UT's footsteps is actually a detriment, and that the developers' talents would be better used elsewhere. To them, spending years of your life trying to make something that is explicitly derivative is a confusing decision. Even if I don't agree, I get it. Ultimately, it boils down to "Art is subjective", as hackneyed as that phrase is, and if you think the art wasn't worth it, you likely wouldn't understand why the artist bothered in the first place.
As for me, I appreciate and commend the UTY team for what they made, but I'd never see myself doing anything similar, and I'd like to think that's reasonable. Maybe none of this made sense, but I don't have better words for it.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Some people will look at Yellow and think that the end product is nothing more than an imitation, and so would say that the effort has been wasted trying to ride UT's coattails
The thing is that is wrong in an objective sense, so these people aren't worth listening to in any way. >To them, spending years of your life trying to make something that is explicitly derivative is a confusing decision. Even if I don't agree, I get it.
You get it? You get why someone would find it confusing that somebody is doing something they like that's creative and harmless? You'll have to walk me through that one. > but I'd never see myself doing anything similar, and I'd like to think that's reasonable.
That is reasonable and that's not the same thing I was responding to.
4 months ago
Anonymous
It's a matter of scale, I'd say. You know that Loud House fanfic that's longer than the Bible? Think of how much of the author's life has been wrapped up in that task. I've never read any of it, so I can't speak for the writing quality, but even without that it's impossible to deny that there's been a frickton of enthusiasm and dedication poured into that thing. It's a mammoth display of fixation, even for our little Thai autism awareness forum.
And yet the judgemental side of me asks, "Wtf is this guy doing with his life? Why this? I don't care how good or bad the show is, this guy must be crazy." Of course, a little thinking reveals that there's nothing wrong with what he's doing: it's harmless, engaging for the author, and fascinating in its own right, and his life is his to spend however he pleases. But I can't help but hear that voice in the back of my head wondering why he's so invested in a world that isn't even of his own making. One can only wonder what he would be creating if he just wrote his own stuff. It's easy for me to ask "Why hasn't this guy moved on?", especially since I've never seen the show the story is based on. And the fact he hasn't confuses me, even if I know it's no big deal. It's not like my judgemental side wants him to stop doing what makes him happy, it just gets confused as to why he's latched on to a kids' show of all things.
Maybe that's just me and I'm part butthole, but I don't think so. The more effort and skill gets put into a fan project, the harder it becomes for bystanders to relate to that level of focus and the more tempting it can be to ask why it isn't just made into its own thing so it can break free of the limitations of fan content. So yes, I know the feeling of wondering "why?" regarding fan projects personally. For some, dropping a solid portion of your life on something like a fangame over something more practical is not just undesirable, but unimaginable.
Anyway, I'm done yapping for now.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I understand you're done, but if you read this again consider something for me. >For some, dropping a solid portion of your life on something like a fangame over something more practical is not just undesirable, but unimaginable.
How many hours does somebody watch TV in their life do you think? Or these days it'll be browse the internet? Doom scrolling? Playing video games, watching films, listening to music, etc. It's really not that different in the grand scheme of things. I'm not saying the Loud House fanfic is BETTER than somebody just watching TV, not at all. But it's more that it's kind of a useless line of thought. As an example relevant to the thread: >Why did these people spend their years making UTY? They should have been browsing more Ganker like I did for the last 7 years instead
>why not make something original?
Because you like the work you're making a fan product of. Is that really so difficult to fathom? You know fan games and products aren't a new phenomenon, right?
That and you basically get a cut of the source material's existing fanbase, an original work would have to build that from the ground up and hope it even gets attention in the first place. A full solid quality fangame like Yellow would get a lot of attention (and thus give the creators recognition that could help them in the long run) from the already massive fandom of Undertale.
There's certainly all of that, but I can't get over the idea that there are individuals that really think people shouldn't make things they want to make because they want to and they like the thing.
I don't know a lot about Fuhnaff but I don't see the resemblance. Chujin was almost as moronic as his wife but his intentions were clearly focused on what he thought was the greater good and he mortally wounded himself in the pursuit of this goal. Afton's a serial killer who's horrified of death and has no emotional attachment to anyone else, and his experiments were all based on extending his life (something Chujin wouldn't even have to try to do, since he'd be immortal if Kanako wasn't born or got killed due to the boss gene)
i think he mainly just means that both are purple and both built killer robots and both have children that were endangered by other children and both died as a result of their efforts to kill children
>both are purple
Asgore wears purple >both built killer robots
Asgore employed people who made at least killer robots >both have children that were endangered by other children
Asriel died because of Chara's actions >and both died as a result of their efforts to kill children
Happens to Asgore at the end of Undertale unless you do true pacifist
Is Asgore William Afton?
>Accidentally kills her own child against the explicit wishes of her deceased husband >Decides to kill another to make up for it >Soul shatters in the case that she succeeds
Some, uh.... legacy you're preserving, huh.
>none of them focus on anything the game actually shows you about her >their all just an assortment of surface level secondaries
Quite telling, really.
>exclusively on what their speedread watching of a youtube playthrough shows you.
FTFY
4 months ago
Anonymous
>immediately comes up with some insane cope and says that there's some hidden detail that makes her trainwreck of an unfinished plotline actually good >won't even explain his stance, will just keep lashing out instead
4 months ago
Anonymous
does it ever get old going on the same diatribe every single thread about the fangame furry mom, or do you just have some moronic stockholm syndrome and you refuse to leave the threads of the game you incessantly shit on?
i don't understand, if you're this upset over it all the time then you must not like the game that much
4 months ago
Anonymous
he's one of those people who only exclusively liked at most the cowboy stuff in all routes and the epic jaundice genoslide route where you're the good guy if you don't know how to read the funny little markings underneath the pictures
4 months ago
Anonymous
I actually liked the game, what I disliked was how sloppy the ending was and how clearly the developers played favorites with Ceroba making her not only have: >part of the western area with Starlo >The largest area in the game, in the form of the Steamworks shortcut, and arguably also the manor >Four phase final boss >detailed backstory (that quickly falls apart), yet is more fleshed out than any of the other three major monsters you meet >Ending depending entirely on whether or not you kill her >Two phased boss fight in the genocide route that's only rivaled in difficulty to the actual final boss and totally overshadowed the Axis fight after her in terms of difficulty, further fricking up the pacing >another entire section that was apparently cut from the game that would again, be entirely focused on her and her dead kid plot
Making her not only a large chunk of the pacifist route but also the genocide one too.
morons like
he's one of those people who only exclusively liked at most the cowboy stuff in all routes and the epic jaundice genoslide route where you're the good guy if you don't know how to read the funny little markings underneath the pictures
act like its some sort of surprise for people to get annoyed at how she suddenly takes the entire games focus halfway through.
4 months ago
Anonymous
so true! the last third act should have been about legacy characters like sans and then papyrus goes goku mode!
4 months ago
Anonymous
I agree, they should have written Ceroba better
4 months ago
Anonymous
They should have just removed all of the furgay OCs from the game.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Don't you dare touch Martlet
4 months ago
Anonymous
It's ok she's a feathergay OC big difference
4 months ago
Anonymous
"HE'S TOUCHING THE BIRD!"
4 months ago
Anonymous
ALL furgay OCs have to go, including your gay waifu.
4 months ago
Anonymous
MARTLET WAS A BIRD WHO COULD HAVE BECOME A MOTHER TO ME!
4 months ago
Anonymous
True, I fricking HATED her in my first pacifist playthrough, I thankfully did neutral with one robot kill so I got the best of both worlds before seeing how she just derails the story as some super cool OC.
I wouldn't even have as much as a problem with her if they just replaced her genocide fight with a Starlo genocide fight or some shit dude, damn he was robbed.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, the devs really fricked up by making it entirely about their furpedo OCs
4 months ago
Anonymous
Is someone doing a double-falseflag by pretending to obviously samegay and make it look like the post author is a moronic samegay for shitting on Ceroba?
4 months ago
Anonymous
4 months ago
Anonymous
i think ceroba's writing is really imperfect and they could have improved a lot there, but it's like everyone who dislikes her is grasping at straws to form this thesis on why she singlehandedly ruins the entire game.
"playing favorites" with a character isn't necessarily bad, there's games like PMD:EoS with "partner characters" that execute this really well. the problem is that ceroba's plotline is too abrupt and intrusive and incomplete, and it attempted to completely replace the plot that was already set up.
the idea of a mother desperately clinging to a cause and to save her daughter actually has potential, and she's not even an intolerably obnoxious or stupid character until the end. the steamworks was still fun, her boss fight was also exciting. she's not fundamentally fricked as a concept, the devs just failed to make her work. they shoved her in instead of either toning her down or ingraining her into the story earlier and more naturally.
buuuut i guess nuance doesn't exist and you either have to white knight her or want to watch torture porn of her dying, so nevermind
4 months ago
Anonymous
Most normal people will agree on all counts anon, but some people just want to be mad
4 months ago
Anonymous
>but some people just want to be mad
People adore going to extremes because it leads to either people calling you omega based or makes people buttmad from your idiocy. That's how it do be unfortunatley.
4 months ago
Anonymous
i think most normal people are pretty indifferent to ceroba and were able to really enjoy the game as they played it, regardless of the flaws.
Ganker is not "normal people" though, it's a collection of coomers and baiters and morons and schizos and pedos, all of which are gonna have delusional outlier opinions
4 months ago
Anonymous
i love ceroba
i love making ceroba suffer
both are true
4 months ago
Anonymous
Then you don't really love her, Allah will punish you for your misdeeds
4 months ago
Anonymous
I love Ceroba and I want to give her lots of kisses and hugs and tell her everything will be alright and have a happy healthy family with her and get her the help she needs!
I also want to hurt Ceroba and tell her she's worthless and how Kanako is dead because of her and watch her break down sobbing apologizing for being such a failure!
4 months ago
Anonymous
You know what will happen next.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I don't want to strawman this, but... Isn't Undertale sorta the same? The entire plot revolved around the goat family and Flowey. I honestly thought it was kind of intentional that Ceroba was introduced in that way, first time I played through UTY Ceroba's dialogue felt forced and shoehorned in, but after learning what her true motives were, it makes sense she'd try to befriend Clover to give him a false sense of security and insert herself into his journey (maybe even try to gain his sympathy, as he himself is looking for 5 children). The pacifist ending does have its flaws, but with what they were working with, I think they did a pretty good job. I just wish there were more pacifist exclusive bonding cutscenes with the main cast. For example checking back on Dalv in snowdin as an obligatory requirement for the pacifist ending would've been cool, I am sure they could've expanded on it to allow him to play a more important role in the story. Also it did feel like an insult for Martlet, Starlo and Ceroba to let Clover sacrifice so easily. Unlike most people I feel that it was fine for the Kanako lab arc to be dropped, we already knew from UT that Alphys straight up became a shut in order to not have to give answers to the families of the amalgamates.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I didn't feel like she really impacted the dunes all that much, but the way the focus abruptly shifts toward her for the ladder half of the game is strange. ceroba to me is the main showcase for why yellow's story feels like it was rushed and/or poorly thought out.
also she should've been a cowgirl instead of what we got, but that's just my opinion
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, having her character retain the western theme would have been waaay better than the weebshit we got. Clover being a cowboy and having an absence of a western climatic enemy/moment is criminal.
4 months ago
Anonymous
wrong
4 months ago
Anonymous
The East vs West thing was potentially pretty cool, but the Dunes and Starlo were so great and Ceroba was such a dreary nobody that it feels like we got the worse end of the deal.
ceroba deserved to have her whole family taken from her because of her own stupid decisions and then cry herself to sleep every night thinking about what a frick up she is and how much she misses kanako
should starlo use ceroba for his own pleasure? >he is the law >literally 0 people in the wild east gives a frick about ceroba >She's so stupid that she would forget about it the next day >Hell, maybe she's even into it
there's literally no downside of converting her into his personal onahole.
period.
should be shot in the head and the balls with .45/70 govt repeatedly? >he's a homosexual >literally 0 people in the world give a frick about a shitty greentext spamming homosexual >he's so brown nobody would miss him >hell, he might be into it for the microsecond he can feel the round going through his balls and head
there is literally no downside to doing this. period.
>your first time would always be a disappointing, awkward experience with an actual manchild instead of a sensational, romantic session with the one guy you've always loved >You've been defiled by the lowest excuse of a partner, and have had a failure of a child with her. >what's even worse is that you ended up being even more of a failure than your husband and child >Meanwhile, the man you loved had already moved on
what's even left for ceroba?
Ok, I admit it. I'm a coomer, I jerk off a lot and cum just as much as I fap. And I'll be honest. I want Clover more than anything now, I crave for Clover rule 34 to satisfy my need of nutting to his perfect design. He makes me feel things I've never felt, and the sole thought of his naked body makes my dopamine levels skyrocket to heights I thought were just not possible. I need to jerk off to Clover's boypussy.
I had a dream that Martlet and Clover hug each other at the end of neutral route then Flowey impales both of them at once while quoting Gravemind about two corpses in one grave.
Clover was BETRAYED by his friends and TRAPPED in the HYPERBOLIC SOUL CONTAINER for 100 YEARS
Monstroking must pay for their true grime..... vengance juandice must will delivered.... via GENOSLIDE... Epic Read Dead Revengance Stile,,,,
Anon was SAVED by his friends and RESCUED from the HYPERBOLIC SHITPOST CHAMBER for FOREVER
Anon must repent for his anger..... forgivenoss must will happen.... via LOVE.... Epic understory yellow styile,,,,
>Need to go to bed so I can go to work >Brain decides it's time to write an entire fight scene >Come home next day with pages of notes >Spend the rest of my free time writing a conversation that wasn't even in the notes >Am now missing sleep again
I miss back when I hadn't played this and I was just lazy
I feel like a fricking dwarf fortress character taken by a bullshit mood and ignoring the need to breathe because there's a sick statue that needs to exist
>Chujin says that he programmed Axis to apprehend, not kill >Axis actually does just apprehend Clover if you fail to escape during the chase sequence >Axis uses a loophole to try to kill Clover later >In the justice route, Axis claims that he was "just following orders" when he murdered Integrity
Axis is a liar.
Axis wouldn't have needed to use a loophole to attack Integrity I assume because his AI considered the ballet shoes kicking around to be a "drawn weapon"
FILE 6 existing in Undertale implies that Clover canonically does the genocide route at least once before resetting and finishing off with either Pacifist ending, because genocide is the only way he can get his own save instead of piggybacking off Flowey's
Most monsters are willing to stop fighting after you hit them enough, is that not a form of surrender? Dunebud becomes almost immobile when it attacks at low health
Willing =/= Backing down. Waste as many turns as you want against a monster when its sparable, they will never make the decision to stop fighting first. It's still justified to finish the job even if they would take the mercy, because they arent offering any themselves
>but with some morally conflicting scenes thrown in the middle
Isn't kind of the point though to show how Clover's sense of justice gets progressively more and more zealous and two-faced because he's just killing monsters who likely never had anything to do with the other humans and even harming people who have very little to no ill intent?
>even harming people who have very little to no ill intent?
The closest you get to that is Starlo and even then thats only if you draw early or not at all, everyone else does genuinely have ill intent towards him the whole time. The rest of the stuff you can do thats horrible is completely optional like robbing Mo or killing mini bosses like Bailador
Clover flipflops back and forth from chara-tier psychopath to vaguely honorable between the dunes and steamworks
Even more depending on how you decide to play certain encounters As someone trying to personally address that, there's just an insane level of thematic and character depth left unexplored
Yeah. I wrote out a bunch, and posted an early bit to get some feedback. Now I'm just going back and forth expanding different parts of my outline into actual writing and filling random holes as the mood catches me I have (slightly) bigger plans than just a fic, so it's gonna be a while
I finished pacifist last night and I felt really bothered by the fact that they didn't follow up on the "Kanako is in the true lab" thing. I know it's cut content but after setting it up you'd expect something in the epilogue. Did Ceroba just forget to check up on her daughter after the fight with Clover?
>AO3
Just asking, and if it is you do you, but it's not weird porn is it? My only association with AO3 is anons rabidly shilling hardcore fetish fics on Ganker with links to that site. If it's normal-ish I'll give it a look
surprisingly pretty much everything undertale yellow related on Ao3 aren't porn related at all
it's mostly pretty good quality fanfics mostly relating to the various endings, like the one that anon recommended, though he forgot to say that there's a prequel to that one called 'the same mistakes'
It's an alternate ending story where ceroba talks clover down from suicide and eventually tries to get kanako back from the true lab. There's no porn, that's literally it, i'm not trolling.
it's a bit of a long read but please trust me, it's just really good and very emotional writing. Theres a prologue and epilogue too.
It would've been pretty neat if the game had a unique ending for if you kill ONLY enemies that attacked you with the intent to kill, meaning no clueless random encounters since their bullets are just how they greet each other for some reason, as an actual "justice" route that Clover would most likely do himself
How would that route end though?
I think they should have divvied neutral up to achieve that sort of thing. >Low kill count = Clover gives up and goes with Martlet then Flowey intervenes >High kill count = Clover remembers the job he came to the Underground to do and refuses to stay, ends similarly to flawed pacifist >Very high kill count = Clover does not believe Martlet and threatens her, she leaves and Clover goes to fight Asgore alone
I only played the Justice route. I have the True Pacifist route a quick watch and it was gay tumblrshit with extra focus on those clear self insert fursonas. I really don't understand how jannies allow furgays who liked that crap route to establish a general on Ganker.
Oh, I must have skipped over that part. Yeah alright I'll concede one thing in that post happened, but that's still a pretty bad ratio of things that didn't happen to things that did
It makes up for it with the furnonce OC wank >Cucked out of a legitimately cool cowboy vs cowboy fight with Starlo just to have more screentime with the furry OCs
I swear to god everyone in these threads hated Ceroba back in December to early January and now suddenly half the posters are Ceroba waifugays what happened
4 months ago
Anonymous
We fixed her, simple as
4 months ago
Anonymous
The reverse honeymoon period ended just like anyone with more than two braincells stopped thinking Toriel was a good character after the end of that honeymoon period.
4 months ago
Anonymous
People didn't hate Ceroba, they just called her a dumb stinky moron but wanted to fix her and the flawed + unfinished writing of the pacifist route.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Stockholm
As far as I can tell everyone is still in agreement that Ceroba is too dumb to live, but people memed it and as a result made it more acceptable. It went from being bad writing to funny writing
4 months ago
Anonymous
She's far more deserving to live than a few of the original game's main cast members.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I only agree with Alphys
If we got a true lab ending and it featured Ceroba beating Alphys half to death with her staff I think half the people who dislike dumbfox would immediately 180 out of pure catharsis
4 months ago
Anonymous
What about Undyne?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Martlet and Undyne will throw down.
It'll be kind of rad.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Flawed Justice route where Clover's scoping people left and right including Ceroba, but spares Martlet and Starlo because they mean well >Starlo still doesn't forgive him but Martlet is ready to go down her same "live with me where (you/the rest of monsterkind) will be safe" neutral path >Starlo contacts the royal guards, mentioned Martlet's betrayal and the general bodycount >Undyne is on their ass at 70 miles per hour >she has a Determination syringe just in case >Martlet still has her own syringe
4 months ago
Anonymous
4 months ago
Anonymous
Ehhh, Undyne, Muffet, Toriel, Mettaton and Sans to a degree also deserve a lot worse than what they got in the OG game when you think about it
4 months ago
Anonymous
Sans got trapped and betrayed in Gaster's hyperbolic dimension chamber with his brother though, what more punishment could he receive?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Being retconned into every fangame and being made aware of it in canon.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Being retconned into every fangame and being made aware of it in canon.
Anon you might be being a bit TOO harsh here
4 months ago
Anonymous
Going the same way as Asriel does in Pacifist?
4 months ago
Anonymous
>trapped and betrayed in Gaster's hyperbolic dimension chamber
You're the only one continuing this argument, STOP trying to derail the thread.
4 months ago
Anonymous
nah
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yah. At an intrinsic level you really wouldn't be judged for lashing out at the kind of things Mettaton does to his own kind just to fuel his ego or at the mentality Undyne carries towards humanity and problem resolving as a whole (even if she's been born and raised to think that way).
4 months ago
Anonymous
nah
4 months ago
Anonymous
Toriel was just as reprehensible as Alphys and didn't even show a slight moment of self-awareness or regret over her actions (or inactions), nor did the game actively say anything bad about her at any point in time.
Both are pretty irredeemable and deserve death.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>puts determination into dying monsters in attempt to make their souls persist after death, had no idea it'd keep them alive or be that dangerous (and frankly had no reason to believe it'd prevent them from dying since the humans it came from were, y'know, dead)
vs >puts blue vape juice into perfectly healthy daughter after being told like 20 times by her dying husband (who was dying specifically because he kept putting blue soul vape juice into himself) not to do it, knew it would probably frick her up but conceded and did it anyway after being asked very nicely a few times
The only thing Alphys really fricked up in was not telling the families.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Alphys would be the most C A T H A R T I C kill in genocide if Toby let it happen
4 months ago
Anonymous
If Deltarune has a Weird Route where Alphys gets fricked up, whether you kill her or just ruin her life, it is going to derail SO many playthroughs
4 months ago
Anonymous
>I only agree with Alphys
Why only her? Looking at it objectively everyone except Papyrus is pretty bad >Sans
Stands by while a guy slaughters literally everyone on neutral or genocide, refuses to be held culpable >Asgore 'Seven is my Lucky Number' Dreemurr
Killed or issued orders to kill 6 kids, working on #7 by the time of UT >Toriel 'Blame Someone Else' Dreemurr
Enabled all of the above, spurred the conflict on by encouraging said kids to kill monsters >Mettaton
Perfectly willing to kill for the sake of his TV show and literally nothing else >Undyne
Ironically probably the least reprehensible of the main cast except Papyrus who's literally innocent, the worst that can be said of her is that she's just doing her job
4 months ago
Anonymous
Asgore did nothing wrong.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Does Sans say that he would have already killed pacifist Frisk had Toriel asked him to spare Frisk?
Also, Undyne seemed much more murderous than just wanting to do her job.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>putting your promise above stopping someone who's committed actual murder and whose objective is to commit regicide or die in the process
Sans is a frickwit (and understandably so given his position) but that shit wouldn't fly by any reasonable standard of morality >Also, Undyne seemed much more murderous than just wanting to do her job.
True, but in a court of law she couldn't really be found actually guilty of anything except doing her job given to her by the king
>the worst that can be said of her is that she's just doing her job
To be fair she is VERY enthusiastic about her job, its not like it's begrudgingly like the ch1 darkners. She's also willing to let the monster's hatred of humanity blind her and find reasons to attack a child who has done no wrong. Still yeah she's definitely the least reprehensible even with that because of her quick enough turn around later
Yeah I'm not saying she's not a b***h, just that ironically she seems to me to be the least b***hy of the main cast
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Sans is a frickwit (and understandably so given his position) but that shit wouldn't fly by any reasonable standard of morality
I was only thinking about his hangout during the true pacifist route because that was the only route that I did. >True, but in a court of law she couldn't really be found actually guilty of anything except doing her job given to her by the king
"Just following orders" doesn't work. Axis got justice blasted when he tried to use that excuse.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>the worst that can be said of her is that she's just doing her job
To be fair she is VERY enthusiastic about her job, its not like it's begrudgingly like the ch1 darkners. She's also willing to let the monster's hatred of humanity blind her and find reasons to attack a child who has done no wrong. Still yeah she's definitely the least reprehensible even with that because of her quick enough turn around later
4 months ago
Anonymous
Asgore was stuck between a rock and a hard place, he made a bad call due to grief and rage over his own son being killed while also needing to keep his people motivated (or else they would literally turn into dust due to depression) and couldn't take it back, not by himself at least. Toriel on the other hand always had the choice to just go back and undo that choice as the FRICKING QUEEN and as told by a bunch of people in the original game, the one that actually did all the ruling, but she didn't and instead actively made things worse while acting smug about it, and the game acts like that was a good thing.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Toriel only sacked Alphys shortly before she would be laid off anyway.
Toriel could always have talked Asgore down, but Asgore only felt like he had to keep going. He could have stopped at any time.
4 months ago
Anonymous
the sans point is why ts!sans is the best version
if you try to kill anyone when he's close by he stops you, he makes sure to minimize the amount of damage you can cause throughout the entire starlight isles, he calls the navy for backup, he coordinates very effectively with papyrus and even the boogiemen, and even if you don't kill anyone in the starlight isles, he STILL busts your balls and makes you prove that you changed your ways and understand how you've hurt people. and all that isn't even mentioning that he starts all of this BEFORE he even meets you, and he even escapes when he's about to lose so he can do it AGAIN. he's way more of "that dude" than ut sans could hope to be.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Because Ceroba's writing is so moronic, she has people making up their own headcanons that are vastly superior to what she actually is by default.
As a result, this:
We fixed her, simple as
The reverse honeymoon period ended just like anyone with more than two braincells stopped thinking Toriel was a good character after the end of that honeymoon period.
People didn't hate Ceroba, they just called her a dumb stinky moron but wanted to fix her and the flawed + unfinished writing of the pacifist route.
Stockholm
As far as I can tell everyone is still in agreement that Ceroba is too dumb to live, but people memed it and as a result made it more acceptable. It went from being bad writing to funny writing
4 months ago
Anonymous
The same thing as what happened to Fang
Everyone hated her, but a few people wanted to save her, and it rolled downhill from there
4 months ago
Anonymous
I was a day one Fang enjoyer and Ceroba enjoyer though.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Furtroons and monstergays took over. Jannies should really vanish this shit to /vg/ or /trash/
4 months ago
Anonymous
4 months ago
Anonymous
>hurm, why does the story game with furry characters have furry fans who like them instead of people who want to kill them all for fun?
you're being too much of a moronic homosexual to not be joking, but you're really committing to the bit here dude
4 months ago
Anonymous
Cope harder furfrick.
4 months ago
Anonymous
She's too endearing to be hated plus unlike Toriel she realizes that she did wrong and tries to redeem herself even if in a rather screwed up way.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I'm guessing those people just moved on, while the waifugays and average undertale/deltarune fans stuck around creating this whiplash effect.
4 months ago
Anonymous
See
Furtroons and monstergays took over. Jannies should really vanish this shit to /vg/ or /trash/
4 months ago
Anonymous
I still hate her, but it's mostly on the backburner.
If I constantly hate her I wouldn't be able to enjoy funny writting about her.
She's too endearing to be hated plus unlike Toriel she realizes that she did wrong and tries to redeem herself even if in a rather screwed up way.
>she realized her mistake
no she fricking didn't, she literally let the same thing that happened with Kanako all over again.
The only difference is that this time it actually managed to help monsterkind and just because it's another dead human for the list.
Ceroba being LONELY and HORNY so she HOOKED UP with CLOVER(adult) in the STABLES but ended up getting CAUGHT by starlo because he was going to the stables to ask the horse how to finally CONFESS his LOVE to her
>sans cowboy mode
Would have been the fastest fricking instant alt+f4 I'd have ever done. This game isn't perfect, but thank FRICK I never had to see that fat homosexual.
Your pathetic trolling attempts aside, they should have relied more on legacy characters if the homosexual devs couldn't design good, Tobylike characters apart from Starlo and Axis.
I think UTY's biggest strength is limiting the use of the legacy cast, genuinely. Not every OC is good but it lets the game stand on its own. The limited screentime Toriel and Asgore get feel in character enough, but if they got any legacy character wrong for an extended period it would do more damage to the game than Ceroba's mental deficiencies.
Imagine liking any of the furgay waifu OCs when the flower girls are sitting right there, waiting to be claimed with their NON-FURRY and VIRGINAL veganas
Nonces deserve death too. I got really heavy child rapist OC vibes from the flower girls when I saw them. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the developers is a legitimate pedophile.
>Mention the fact that Ceroba had a soul container during the true pacifist ending (and therefore must have had it during the fight against her) >moron starts melting down because he thinks that this is bringing up an argument that ended two weeks ago
>Mention the fact that Ceroba had a soul container during the true pacifist ending (and therefore must have had it during the fight against her) >moron starts melting down because he thinks that this is bringing up an argument that ended two weeks ago
asgore was a midwit filter too ironically enough
Postan Roba
If moot was still around your kind would have been rangebanned and reported to the authorities for raping dogs
I love how its impossible to tell whether or not burgerpants actually knows the genocide going on outside his work, he's just that fricking done with life as is
i think ceroba's writing is really imperfect and they could have improved a lot there, but it's like everyone who dislikes her is grasping at straws to form this thesis on why she singlehandedly ruins the entire game.
"playing favorites" with a character isn't necessarily bad, there's games like PMD:EoS with "partner characters" that execute this really well. the problem is that ceroba's plotline is too abrupt and intrusive and incomplete, and it attempted to completely replace the plot that was already set up.
the idea of a mother desperately clinging to a cause and to save her daughter actually has potential, and she's not even an intolerably obnoxious or stupid character until the end. the steamworks was still fun, her boss fight was also exciting. she's not fundamentally fricked as a concept, the devs just failed to make her work. they shoved her in instead of either toning her down or ingraining her into the story earlier and more naturally.
buuuut i guess nuance doesn't exist and you either have to white knight her or want to watch torture porn of her dying, so nevermind
Burn in hell furfricks.
Why does the kid pull his fricking heart out in the one end? They still need one kid he can't just live life until then?
Because the furry OCs took preference over the little child.
alright you little homosexual 14 year old, so tell us what your ideal undertale game with ideal characters looks like. i want an entire write up, MLA format
>Martlet and Clover walk towards Asgore's castle after the flawed pacifist route. >"STOP RIGHT THERE!" An angry, gruff voice calls out, as heavy footsteps approach them. >A blue spear is thrown at their feet. >Martlet and Clover both turn around, Undyne's glaring at the two of them. >"C-Captain Undyne?" >"SAVE IT YOU DAMN TRAITOR! THAT STAR-FARMER ALREADY TOLD ME EVERYTHING! I'M TAKING THAT MURDEROUS LITTLE RUNTS SOUL STRAIGHT TO ASGORE MYSELF!" >"C-Can't we just talk this-" >Undyne charges towards them, ready to fight.
>Just as before, Martlet's instincts kicked in and she tried to gain as much distance as possible >Just as before, Clover's assassin clipped her wings. Directly, this time. >The bird shrieks and involuntarily drops Clover, clutching at the spear jammed in her humerus. It was anything but. >Clover rolls onto the blank gray street, losing his revolver in the tumble. Undyne quickly kicks it away. >"Sorry, kid, but I heard what you can do. No chances, not this time." >a second shriek erupts from the bird, startling both Clover and the guard. >Clover turns and unconsciously grabs the handle of the spear, no longer in Martlet. >"We're so close." Her chirp is weak and her breathing erratic. "Protect yourself and run. Leave me, the surface is right thERE..." she gets out before the pain cuts off her thoughts. >Clover backs toward her until he's right in front of her,, eyes focused on the aggressor. >"Are you dumb?" the bird wheezes. "She's the captain, she'll kill you!" She grips Clover's leg with her good wing, failing to get his attention. >The wind is howling...
This would go so hard as an alternate ending where you get one shot at beating Undyne. >She's as hard as Zenith Martlet >You HAVE to either kill her or beat her into submission.
>Spear after spear is flung at Clover, as Undyne begins to close the distance between them. >Clover stands in front of Martlet, deflecting each spear thrown their way, although a few manage to get through his guard, bouncing around the wall and slamming into his side. >Undyne leaps forwards, having closed the distance between them enough to lunge out with a direct attack with her own spear. >Clover rolls to the side, Undyne's spear slams into the spot they were, digging into the ground and cracking the stone road around it from the sheer force of her attack. >"Clover, RUN!" Martlet cries, only for Undyne to swivel around to face her, reeling her boot back and slamming it into her face. >"SHUT UP! You'd save a human over all of us- All of our hopes, our dreams of seeing the future?! You'd give it all up just for THEM?!" Undyne snarled at Martlet, who was far too injured to respond other than groan. >Clover's SOUL resonated with great power, as they slowly reeled the blue spear back in their hand, the blue of the spear shifted to a vibrant, glowing yellow. >They threw the spear forwards, Undyne spinning around too late, as it slammed into her, sending her flying back. >Another yellow spear manifested in Clover's hands, as they began to walk towards her. >Undyne grinned, gripping her own spear tightly. >"Fine then, I guess now it's a REAL fight!"
no continuation? fine, >the fight went on for hours >spear clashing with spear, blood mixed with loose dust. >clover could barely do any damage to undyne >but as the fight went on, he delt a little more damage >bit by bit, you could see his attacks starting to scare undyne. >until finally... >1 hp remaining >undyne was on the ground panting. >"alright kid, last attack. better hit hard, cause if you dont...", undyne laughs under her breath >"ive got a whole world of hurt for you." >* spare >"... what?" >* spare >"do you think im going to take your mercy?" >* spare >"DO YOU TAKE ME FOR A FOOL?!" >* spare >"you killed someone. and now you think you can just resolve it with 'i dont want to fight'?" >* spare >"what about her family and friends? do you think that they're happy you didnt tell her you didnt want to fight?" >"well newsflash, human rat. im not accepting it." >* spare >"you've got one more chance. no matter what you do im going to attack if you dont kill me" >... >"do you want to know why i did it? why i killed ceroba" >undyne winds up for a battle stance, but actually stops with a confused look on her face >"alright, you got me. why?" >"because she killed her own daughter." >both undyne and martlet look shocked >"oh gosh..." >"WHAT DID YOU SAY?" >"she killed her own daughter, and then asked for me to kill her. if such a person fought you and made the same request, would you not have done the same?" >undyne looks mad now >"so you're telling me that this whole time, while i thought ive been fighting for someone who i THOUGHT WAS INNOCENT. FOUGHT TO BRING JUSTICE TO SOMEONE WHO DIED..." >undyne's expression shifts to a disappointed one. >"... i was actually fighting the person who brought justice to another who died?" >"afraid so, ma'am."
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2/2 >undyne unclenches her fist, manifests a spear. >"look, forget it. i still have to fight you. asgore needs seven souls to open the barrier, if i let you live im letting you stand in the way of everyone's hopes and dreams." >undyne and clover both prepare for one final clash, one hit from the other would certainly kill >"WAIT!" >"what is it, traitor? >"we only have five souls, right?" >"thats correct. where are you going with this?" >"w-well, if we only have five then it makes no difference if clover dies now or ten years from now. he only needs to die when the next human falls. which could take a long time." >undyne sighs and drops her spear, its magic dispersing as it hits the ground >"alright, fine. the human rat can live with you martlet" >"... but if that kid ever even thinks about hurting an innocent monster, he wont get let off like this." >"im... im going to go tell asgore about the situation. im sure he'll understand." >undyne walks off, d-" >"oh yeah. martlet, cant leave you on the royal guard like this. i expect your badge and uniform in three days." >undyne walks off, defeated. >"well... i dont think that could have gone any better than it did. lets go home, clover." >the whole time, flowey has been sitting in the shadows. he wants to reset, but at the same time he wants to see how this ends >besides, maybe he could use clover and the next human together to help bring down asgore and get the souls.
>This isn't a gun. He's not used to this. He's untrained. >He says nothing, but needs not to. He's scared. >Martlet can't do anything. She's stupid. When Ceroba told her about a "secret measure" in the Wild East, and then she saw the syringe laying in the lab... she should have put it all together and taken it with her. >This is the second time she's on the ground, watching the kindest SOUL she ever met fight for justice. >She's a royal guard, damnit! They protect the innocent! YOU protect the innocent, Martlet! >She tries to remember the guidebook. She has it, but what's the point of having it in a real emergency when you need to act? You have to KNOW what to do! >He's tired. He's slowing down. >Undyne isn't. >He trips and time stops. Martlet is frozen. She can't move an inch. FILE8LOADEDFILE8LOADEDFILE8LOADEDFILE8LOADEDFILE8LOADEDFILE8LOADEDFILE8LOADEDFILE8LOADEDFILE8LOADEDFILE8LOA >Oh my god. I'm going to watch him die. >It's my fault. I could have kept him away from Ceroba and prevented all this. Took him to my house, hid him away forever. Move if she came for him. >I can't move at all.
* Protocol for an innocent mon— >Whatever force kept her in place stopped. She dived like a condor on top of the child. >"MOVE." >Martlet looks up and immediately averts her gaze. The violence in Undyne's eyes is like a physical knife in her chest. >"Protocol 1 for an innocent," monster, "in peril. Position," monster, "out of harm's way as soon as possible." >"M-MOVE." >Martlet looks back up. Undyne has lost her composure. >"Protocol 2 for an innocent in peril. If circumstances prevent immediate escape, take a protective stance and buy time." >"You think that human is INNOCENT? They lock us in here, come in one by one to pick off survivors, and this one's weapon is still warm... and you want to protect him like he's INNOCENT?" >"Protocol 3: When escape is impossible, defend innocent with your life." >Martlet clutches Clover tightly.
>"I don't have any more of a problem killing a TRAITOR than a human." >Martlet doesn't believe her. The body language doesn't match and her posture is off. >He tries to get up. Martlet stops it. If all she can give him is a moment to catch his breath, it's more than she'd ever done for him before. >"I didn't join the guard for health insurance or bragging rights." She's actually lying but it felt true now. "We protect the Underground." >"From THEM." >"Clover is in the Underground now! He has friends and he's helped people and—" >"ARE YOU STUPID?" Undyne raises her spear. >"Maybe, but I'm right! Who are you to judge?" >"Undyne, leader of the Royal Guard. Who are YOU?" >"Martlet, of the— no. Martlet, friend." >"Then I guess you're not even a TRAITOR anymore." >Martlet prepares for the end. >no >no no no >no no no no no no >Undyne screeches like a banshee, clutching her eye. Clover did it to her. He jumped out to protect her. >She's frozen again. She's not— >"...you're gonna have to try a little harder than THAT." >Martlet isn't in the way of the spear. >It was all for nothing.
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>The only spear left is Undyne's original, buried in the ground as a makeshift pole to lean on. Martlet doesn't know where the gun went. >She can't even get revenge. >In one arm Undyne clutches the container with Clover's >with Clover. >The other arm is pressed on her eye socket. He left a permanent parting gift. >"I should KILL you." the captain says, not even looking at Martlet. "I can settle for seeing your disgrace." >She removes the hand from her face to grab the spear. The gash is horrible. >Undyne still doesn't even look at Martlet as she takes her first uneven steps forward. Martlet is in the way. She's shoved aside. Undyne says nothing more as she leaves. >She cradles the husk that was Clover. >It starts to rain, she thinks. >"Ceroba... I understand now. Why you did what you did. I know what you thought you needed to do. Even if it was wrong." >"It was wrong." >"It's wrong." >It's wrong.
>Martlet knows where the serum is.
no continuation? fine, >the fight went on for hours >spear clashing with spear, blood mixed with loose dust. >clover could barely do any damage to undyne >but as the fight went on, he delt a little more damage >bit by bit, you could see his attacks starting to scare undyne. >until finally... >1 hp remaining >undyne was on the ground panting. >"alright kid, last attack. better hit hard, cause if you dont...", undyne laughs under her breath >"ive got a whole world of hurt for you." >* spare >"... what?" >* spare >"do you think im going to take your mercy?" >* spare >"DO YOU TAKE ME FOR A FOOL?!" >* spare >"you killed someone. and now you think you can just resolve it with 'i dont want to fight'?" >* spare >"what about her family and friends? do you think that they're happy you didnt tell her you didnt want to fight?" >"well newsflash, human rat. im not accepting it." >* spare >"you've got one more chance. no matter what you do im going to attack if you dont kill me" >... >"do you want to know why i did it? why i killed ceroba" >undyne winds up for a battle stance, but actually stops with a confused look on her face >"alright, you got me. why?" >"because she killed her own daughter." >both undyne and martlet look shocked >"oh gosh..." >"WHAT DID YOU SAY?" >"she killed her own daughter, and then asked for me to kill her. if such a person fought you and made the same request, would you not have done the same?" >undyne looks mad now >"so you're telling me that this whole time, while i thought ive been fighting for someone who i THOUGHT WAS INNOCENT. FOUGHT TO BRING JUSTICE TO SOMEONE WHO DIED..." >undyne's expression shifts to a disappointed one. >"... i was actually fighting the person who brought justice to another who died?" >"afraid so, ma'am."
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I had the first part half-written but couldn't think of the right prose and put it off. Hopefully I did alright after stewing on it.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Martlet knows where the serum is
Undyne is so dead, isn't she?
alright you little homosexual 14 year old, so tell us what your ideal undertale game with ideal characters looks like. i want an entire write up, MLA format
The mods will delete your gay little furfrick thread and you will be moved to /vg/ or /trash/ where you belong.
>Clover finds Martlet's old punk gear in her attic, leading to the bird telling lots of embarrassing but happy stories from her past >Kanako finds out her mom is still wearing hers underneath her kimono
When somebody makes a femboy Chujin green, know that it was YOUR FAULT
4 months ago
Anonymous
>femboy Chujin >implying it's a bad thing
His last name is Ketsukane for a reason.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>femboy Chujin >implying it's a bad thing
His last name is Ketsukane for a reason.
People have mentioned femboy Chujin a bunch of times, but no one's actually done anything with it. Bunch of cowards around here Except for the anon who dreams of Chujin, he's something, but not a coward
4 months ago
Anonymous
>the anon who dreams of chujin
sounds like a dark souls boss
4 months ago
Anonymous
Zanziroba...forgive me...
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Gwyn's Theme but the main motif is replaced with that of the Ben 10 theme
I'm trying this game out and I've decided to start with genocide because that seems fitting since the char apparently went to the underground for revenge and I've never done a genocide run in an Undertale type game
Killed three of those little fly dudes and I feel like fricking garbage, pretty rad how you shoot shit with a gun though
Hug Ceroba. Love Ceroba. Take Ceroba on walks through the park. Tuck Kanako into bed. Take Ceroba out for dinner. Cook Ceroba's favorite meal. Bring Ceroba to the surface. Introduce Ceroba to human food. Jump into Mt. Ebott to save Ceroba. Take Ceroba for a lovely evening drive. Help Ceroba repair her house. Lovingly hold Ceroba's head during a kiss. Help Ceroba evade the IRS. Princess carry Ceroba. Give Ceroba lots of children. Sleep in while cuddling Ceroba. Take out the trash for Ceroba. Wipe Ceroba's tears from her face. Eat Ceroba's practice cooking. Pet Ceroba. Pull Ceroba into bed. Go hiking with Ceroba. Bake birthday cakes with Ceroba. Teach Ceroba new skills. Send Ceroba to Kitsune College. Congratulate Ceroba for having grown many tails. Have a large family with Ceroba. Build new bedrooms for each of your children with Ceroba. Dig your own pool in the backyard with Ceroba. Teach Ceroba how to shoot a gun. Grow old with Ceroba. Build up Ceroba's confidence. Clean Ceroba's shrine maiden outfit.
>had a fever >drank some water and slept >Woke up feeling nothing in my arms and legs and my vision being extremely blurry >slowly but surely, discovered that my arms are moving 20 seconds after I command them to >shit.Must be some new neural disease. >after several long and gruelling minutes, I managed to get off my bed and go to my phone to dial 911 >scrambled out my room >instead of my house I was greeted with a dark laboratory >I walked around it with my delayed senses , avoiding obstacles and slowly exploring it >in somewhere, I found light. >I walked towards it-actually, no, crawl would be the better word to use. >It was chujin, he was.....sitting in front of a computer >I scurried closer, body barely responding to my commands >He was doing something with his hands >He was......jerking off? >No, no....it can't be.......but the rhythmic strokes.... >Siddenly my body gained it's own conciousness and was out my control >walked much faster towards chujin >I can see the screen now, on the screen, it was some CCTV cam of starlo and ceroba having missionary. >he turned his head at me and smiled >'greetings.....my new specimen.Now......let the fun begin.' >my body is now right in front of him.I crawled down the table, positioned myself.... >and started throating his wiener. >it hurts.It really hurts.My throat was on fire. >meanwhile he was laughing like a maniac, and moaning something about ceroba as the footage of her fricking starlo with sound plays >Its like some sort of ancient Japanese torture that's slowly rotting my mind >I tried to stop but my body just continues doing the work >Eventually, he came.A warm blob was filling the back of my throat.Somehow, it just hurts worse. >Passed out after that >Woke up.For real this time. >Tfw my throat is even more sore now >Tfw something sticky is in the back of my throat
I should quite undertale yellow.
Of course not! It's my original character, Cebora! Donut Steel. Her multiple fingers and wrist joints means she can inject even more syringes! She's the COOLEST!
Had a cool what if for you guys. >Revival fic, because frick you of course it is. >Although Clover did flawed pacifist, so Starlo hates him and Ceroba's dust in new home. >It's post-pacifist undertale, so he's just wandering around the underground trying to figure out what's going on or who saved him. >Finds Martlet, she's absolutely amazed to see him and promises to keep him safe after a sappy re-union between the two of them, apologizes for letting Asgore kill them. >Clover decides to stay with her as the two of them leave the underground, all the other humans have also seemingly left. >Frisk works to setup a camp at the base of Ebott with the help of Toriel and Asgore doing diplomacy shit in the background. >Despite being on the surface, Clover doesn't leave Martlet's side, staying in the camp that's been setup for the monsters to stay in while the diplomacy-shit's worked out. >Martlet's confused as to why Clover's staying with them, although they don't say anything. They grow a lot closer, with Martlet essentially being Clover's caretaker. She notices just how clingy they are, and is honestly a little worried about what their parents might be like. >Run ins and events with Dalv, an extremely bitter Starlo and finally the human negotiaters. >The humans are all brought in to be questioned about how they died and when they died who killed them ect, final stages of the negotation. >Clover admits Asgore killed him, but also admits he killed another monster, so he deserved it. >Both sides just agree to let it slide, mostly because they already had integrity who had slaughtered dozens of monsters to sort out and send home to their parents as well. >Despite all the stuff being implied to be going on in the background, it'd just be entirely focused on Clover and Martlet dealing with the immediate aftermath of the barrier falling and Clover's own actions in the flawed pacifist route.
>as Clover is about to shoot Starlo in the genoslide route, Ceroba quickly jumps in and takes the bullet for Starlo. > "Orange skies" cutscene still plays out similarily with Ceroba dying in Starlo's arms >Starlo begins to mald so hard he actually becomes competent enough to fight you. While he's at it he shoots the town bell 5 times and calls up the rest of the Feisty Five (that's their signal or something) >Each feisty five member will have a specific debuff effect on Clover while alive during the fight, choose wisely the order in which you take em down for the best chance of winning. >Ed: FEARLESSNESS - Will take all of the blows for whoever you target first, so naturally he'll be the first to go down, a nice parallel to the trolley problem.
From that point on you can target whoever you choose, Starlo will always dodge your hit though, will go about that in a bit. >Moray : EXCELLENCE - All attacks deal an extra hitpoint or two until Moray goes down (Couldn't think of anything else) >Mooch: SNEAKINESS - Will occasionally steal one of your items, simple as. >Ace : INTUITION - If you choose to use an item, the Feisty Five will use their turn to heal a little as well. If you FIGHT, they will all preemptively be put on guard and raise their defense. >Starlo: FOCUS - He uses his slow down focus mechanic from his pacifist/neutral fight to dodge your bullets , will be the last one standing. He will resort to one final dual, and you WILL need to land a crit to finish him off and come on top.
>clover accidentally says love you lots to ceroba >ends up adopting him before he can kill himself >he's now forced to wear kanako's old clothing >UT's true pacifist ending happens >kanako brought back to normal cause boss monster soul and blue juice >stares at clover with a blank expression, who is now more or less dressed exactly like her
Every time Clover makes an attempt Flowey reloads the save
Every time Martlet tries to rescue him and get him away from Ceroba Flowey stabs her and reloads the save. Clover doesn't remember it but subconsciously knows not to follow
Don't worry the roba will probably feed him something deadly like Tide pods because they look pretty or a lithium battery because it looks shiny within a month the kid is as good as dead anyway
>its 21XX >the monsters were releases from the barrier >but due to their nature, they couldn't coexist with humans, since a slightest nudge from either side could cause immediate death >most monsters decided to stay in the underground, only occasionally going above for leisure activities in an extremely controlled environment. >.......most monsters, except the addicted. >You see, some monsters had picked up some.....problematic habits when they are on the surface >Meth, weed, heroine, you name it. >unfortunately, the underground is incapable of producing drugs >So, they stayed above.Living in slums, doing crimes in exchange for narcotics. >Ceroba was one of those addicts. >She can't blame herself.To be fair, black tar really numbed her pain. >but to get more, she needed money. >fortunately, even though all her friends had left her, starlo left a parting gift. >mooch. >equally addicted to heroine, mooch taught her a way to get it without selling her body, her dignity. >stealing is morally wrong, but you know what?She would rather do the wrong thing than enduring withdrawls. >in exchange, she taught mooch the ways of living normally.How to cook, how to wash her own clothes, how to take a bath..... >in some odd, toxic way, they are like mothers and daughters. >Ceroba even started getting her motherly instincts back from tending her. >things suck.But it seems to get better. >until one day, when she's back from buying some groceries. >mooch is gone. >according to her neighbors, she was caught stealing....from the wrong people. >they are going to sell her as a prostitute. >Ceroba just walked silently to her wardrobe, wore a tattered jacket and grabbed her staff before going out in a rush >Hope she's not too late.
How's this a UT fangame idea?You have to battle your drug addiction while being in a race to rescue mooch
Pizza tower style.
Ceroba have to complete sections on time and collect enough money for a fix or she would lose hp every 5 seconds
And if she haven't rescued mooch after certain time periods mooch would have to actually serve rougher and rougher clients and gets more and more mindbroken
the ending depends on how long you took to save her and would you be able to live normally afterwards.
>On time mooch is unscathed and gives ceroba a 🙂 face before they both applies for an underground drug quitting programme and reconciles with their friends >late mooch gets more and more perverted and the lifestyle they adapted became worse and worse >Super late mooch became a bawd and dragged ceroba down to her path of prostitution >not on time mooch straight up got sold to another side of the world and ceroba killed herself due to the guilt
Any cool genocidefic? "After the dust settles" is a simple and short yet satisfying add-on to clover leaving the underground with the souls and it left me with the desire for MORE GENOFICS
Frisk has the cutest personality. They'd be the best boywife, but also he is not that handsome.
Chara is the hottest, sexiest but we know they're an butthole.
Clover is the second hottest and best shota. Perfect balance between sexy and cute.
Kris is the worst because he's too boy-ish but he has a nice butt.
it isn't even asuka vs rei its >wow asuka sucks what if she killed one of the asukagays then killed herself after raping the penguin and shinji at the same tine with her futa wiener and then misato necks herself too
hey as someone who only played the original undertale years ago and just recently finished yellow, can someone explain to me why flowey is so powerful in the neutral route? in the original game it's because he gets the six souls but he seems just as powerful in yellow's boss fight as well
if you do it for every textbox instead of every letter it's acceptable
otherwise it is really wasteful
you just need to assign the sound file to a stream player when the text first shows up/advances and play/stop it based on the letters shown
I mean for the same reason what Asriel had done as flowey should be forgiven the same way you should for not doing a genocide route, going back and doing the right thing, it's sort of fricked up that Asriel is stuck as a Flower because some omnicidal lunatic convinced him (someone who was probably 8) into a suicide pact to totally become a super hero to save monster kind.
nobody cares about undertale except fujoshis
now go take a shower alice
Alice? Showering? Where? I'm going to Alice.
>putting snoot game in the OP to set off Abib's spergout alarms
You have a lower IQ than Cebulba
okay what was the deal with that catholic schizo in the one i saw got 404'd
tldr: he's a schizo who thinks the work made by he and his friends is directly responsible for the inspiration of undertale.
>catholic schizo
you just answered your own question, anon.
You now remember Dalv. Dalv exists
Proof?
I'm not convinced that's true. How do I know he wasn't just a ghost I imagined?
Thankfully he appears at the start of the game, so he doesn't exist for long!
Decibat has a better song.
Decibat and Dalv should have been fused into one character. Change my mind. Protip: You can't.
>fuse
>People like this shit character now
It's over
Dumb animals are cute, and Ceroba is both an animal and dumb
Undertale Yellow is just another cringy fan project that'll be forgotten within a few months
It's not going to be the next cultural phenomenon but it'll probably get brought up within the Undertale fandom for a long time. The demo in 2016 was forgotten after a few months and I personally figured it was normal vaporwave like every other Undertale fangame that wasn't more than a single boss fight. When someone told me it was finished I was amazed the creators stuck it out for seven years without dropping the project
Makes me sad that Dreemurr Reborn was put into an indefinite hiatus (most likely dead), it seem liked that one had potential too, which sucks because Fatz was one of us, who hung around alot and drew stuff for the threads.
Also the fact Dreemurr Reborn was one of the first 'what if' stories before AU's became a thing is impressive.
Me too bro. Me too.
I dunno, I went in fully expecting to drop it after 20 minutes due to how cringe and gay it'd be. It wasn't really either of those things. It was well made. I still think people who make fan games are sort of moronic, but it was nice.
>people that make fangames are moronic
if you have many years of experience in gamedev then yes, it's a bit moronic to be making fangames when you're like 28 years old. but making derivative fan stuff when you're starting out is one of the most common practices in the entertainment industry at large: animation, music, film, games, you name it. toby fox got his platform making fangames/mods.
these people were like 17 when they started this and they had it in them to not give up on it after the better part of a decade, unlike 99% of people probably would
>it's a bit moronic to be making fangames when you're like 28 years old
hhhhhhhhhhhhh
>28 years old
Shut up, shut the frick up!
>I still think people who make fan games are sort of moronic
That's a really strange thought. Why do you have it?
>if you have many years of experience in gamedev then yes, it's a bit moronic to be making fangames when you're like 28 years old
Another one? What's the logic here?
there is no logic to it they're just young and ignorant
I'm neither of those people, but I assume the idea is that making a fangame, even a really good one, has a lot of restrictions inherent to the format. Your audience will always be a subset of the original work's fanbase, you have to make something new enough to justify itself while still respecting the source material, you'll certainly never get paid for it for legal reasons, etc. It's a huge investment of time and effort to make something that is explicitly an imitation, living in the shadow of something else. So if you have the chops, the resources, and the team to make something like that, why not make something original? Imagine if Square Enix announced that, in secret, their entire development studio had spent the last five years making an unofficial Sly Cooper game. They don't own the property, so they'll never make money off of it, and any recognition they'd get would always be just a portion of the pre-existing Sly Cooper fanbase. Even if the end product is great, most people would probably agree that it was a ridiculous business decision.
But as the second person pointed out, that's not the case for UTY. It was a passion project started by a bunch of teens and amateurs that somehow got seen to completion, and hopefully they will use what they've learned on independent projects going forwards. And good for them, really.
>why not make something original?
Because you like the work you're making a fan product of. Is that really so difficult to fathom? You know fan games and products aren't a new phenomenon, right?
no anon you don't understand i NEED to make money off of EVERYTHING i do or i need to find a way to make money off of everything i do because enjoying things is for gays
No, I'm trying to understand both sides of the argument. I should have clarified that I myself don't think that people making fangames are moronic or anything like that; people have found much lesser causes to devote their lives to. It's quite impressive to be so inspired by a work of art that you'd be willing to sacrifice so much of your time and energy making a love letter to said art.
But I also understand that such motivation is the exception to the rule, and plenty of others will not get or appreciate that devotion. You and I are here because we enjoy what the UTY team created, but that's not a universal opinion. Some people will look at Yellow and think that the end product is nothing more than an imitation, and so would say that the effort has been wasted trying to ride UT's coattails. Likewise, think about how many anons have said that they won't touch TS!US on the basis of it being an Undertale AU. Those people would likely say that trying to follow in UT's footsteps is actually a detriment, and that the developers' talents would be better used elsewhere. To them, spending years of your life trying to make something that is explicitly derivative is a confusing decision. Even if I don't agree, I get it. Ultimately, it boils down to "Art is subjective", as hackneyed as that phrase is, and if you think the art wasn't worth it, you likely wouldn't understand why the artist bothered in the first place.
As for me, I appreciate and commend the UTY team for what they made, but I'd never see myself doing anything similar, and I'd like to think that's reasonable. Maybe none of this made sense, but I don't have better words for it.
>Some people will look at Yellow and think that the end product is nothing more than an imitation, and so would say that the effort has been wasted trying to ride UT's coattails
The thing is that is wrong in an objective sense, so these people aren't worth listening to in any way.
>To them, spending years of your life trying to make something that is explicitly derivative is a confusing decision. Even if I don't agree, I get it.
You get it? You get why someone would find it confusing that somebody is doing something they like that's creative and harmless? You'll have to walk me through that one.
> but I'd never see myself doing anything similar, and I'd like to think that's reasonable.
That is reasonable and that's not the same thing I was responding to.
It's a matter of scale, I'd say. You know that Loud House fanfic that's longer than the Bible? Think of how much of the author's life has been wrapped up in that task. I've never read any of it, so I can't speak for the writing quality, but even without that it's impossible to deny that there's been a frickton of enthusiasm and dedication poured into that thing. It's a mammoth display of fixation, even for our little Thai autism awareness forum.
And yet the judgemental side of me asks, "Wtf is this guy doing with his life? Why this? I don't care how good or bad the show is, this guy must be crazy." Of course, a little thinking reveals that there's nothing wrong with what he's doing: it's harmless, engaging for the author, and fascinating in its own right, and his life is his to spend however he pleases. But I can't help but hear that voice in the back of my head wondering why he's so invested in a world that isn't even of his own making. One can only wonder what he would be creating if he just wrote his own stuff. It's easy for me to ask "Why hasn't this guy moved on?", especially since I've never seen the show the story is based on. And the fact he hasn't confuses me, even if I know it's no big deal. It's not like my judgemental side wants him to stop doing what makes him happy, it just gets confused as to why he's latched on to a kids' show of all things.
Maybe that's just me and I'm part butthole, but I don't think so. The more effort and skill gets put into a fan project, the harder it becomes for bystanders to relate to that level of focus and the more tempting it can be to ask why it isn't just made into its own thing so it can break free of the limitations of fan content. So yes, I know the feeling of wondering "why?" regarding fan projects personally. For some, dropping a solid portion of your life on something like a fangame over something more practical is not just undesirable, but unimaginable.
Anyway, I'm done yapping for now.
I understand you're done, but if you read this again consider something for me.
>For some, dropping a solid portion of your life on something like a fangame over something more practical is not just undesirable, but unimaginable.
How many hours does somebody watch TV in their life do you think? Or these days it'll be browse the internet? Doom scrolling? Playing video games, watching films, listening to music, etc. It's really not that different in the grand scheme of things. I'm not saying the Loud House fanfic is BETTER than somebody just watching TV, not at all. But it's more that it's kind of a useless line of thought. As an example relevant to the thread:
>Why did these people spend their years making UTY? They should have been browsing more Ganker like I did for the last 7 years instead
That and you basically get a cut of the source material's existing fanbase, an original work would have to build that from the ground up and hope it even gets attention in the first place. A full solid quality fangame like Yellow would get a lot of attention (and thus give the creators recognition that could help them in the long run) from the already massive fandom of Undertale.
There's certainly all of that, but I can't get over the idea that there are individuals that really think people shouldn't make things they want to make because they want to and they like the thing.
imagine that snout eating your ass
Wouldn't Clover just sorta annihilate Chara/(You) if he ever encountered 'em?
If he was his Lv 20 self, yes.
Actually, even without levels he'd probably still win 1v1 due to having a gun.
Did the developers intend to make Chujin basically William Afton, or did they only notice the similarity later?
I don't know a lot about Fuhnaff but I don't see the resemblance. Chujin was almost as moronic as his wife but his intentions were clearly focused on what he thought was the greater good and he mortally wounded himself in the pursuit of this goal. Afton's a serial killer who's horrified of death and has no emotional attachment to anyone else, and his experiments were all based on extending his life (something Chujin wouldn't even have to try to do, since he'd be immortal if Kanako wasn't born or got killed due to the boss gene)
But Chujin was more interested in chasing after Integrity than in checking on Kanako.
i think he mainly just means that both are purple and both built killer robots and both have children that were endangered by other children and both died as a result of their efforts to kill children
>both are purple
Asgore wears purple
>both built killer robots
Asgore employed people who made at least killer robots
>both have children that were endangered by other children
Asriel died because of Chara's actions
>and both died as a result of their efforts to kill children
Happens to Asgore at the end of Undertale unless you do true pacifist
Is Asgore William Afton?
Steamworks has a blatant FNAF reference, moron.
>Accidentally kills her own child against the explicit wishes of her deceased husband
>Decides to kill another to make up for it
>Soul shatters in the case that she succeeds
Some, uh.... legacy you're preserving, huh.
Ceroba was carrying a soul container the entire time.
Then where did she get the soul container from during the true pacifist ending after you spare her?
My point is that the soul still shatters before she can capture it. You see it break apart.
What do you think these jars everywhere are for anon
is starlo jerking her off
He's doing this to her
Ceroba kind of looks familiar
>Shota
>moron
Shun its just monster clover lol
reminder that ceroba is a midwit filter
you may now respond with seethe
Go back to circlejerking on Reddit.
what do you mean?
Not even he knows what he means because he posted that in multiple threads never answers when questioned.
He means...
>none of them focus on anything the game actually shows you about her
>their all just an assortment of surface level secondaries
Quite telling, really.
People that know she's a shit character focus EXCLUSIVELY on what the game shows you.
i think you're a shit character in real life
>exclusively on what their speedread watching of a youtube playthrough shows you.
FTFY
>immediately comes up with some insane cope and says that there's some hidden detail that makes her trainwreck of an unfinished plotline actually good
>won't even explain his stance, will just keep lashing out instead
does it ever get old going on the same diatribe every single thread about the fangame furry mom, or do you just have some moronic stockholm syndrome and you refuse to leave the threads of the game you incessantly shit on?
i don't understand, if you're this upset over it all the time then you must not like the game that much
he's one of those people who only exclusively liked at most the cowboy stuff in all routes and the epic jaundice genoslide route where you're the good guy if you don't know how to read the funny little markings underneath the pictures
I actually liked the game, what I disliked was how sloppy the ending was and how clearly the developers played favorites with Ceroba making her not only have:
>part of the western area with Starlo
>The largest area in the game, in the form of the Steamworks shortcut, and arguably also the manor
>Four phase final boss
>detailed backstory (that quickly falls apart), yet is more fleshed out than any of the other three major monsters you meet
>Ending depending entirely on whether or not you kill her
>Two phased boss fight in the genocide route that's only rivaled in difficulty to the actual final boss and totally overshadowed the Axis fight after her in terms of difficulty, further fricking up the pacing
>another entire section that was apparently cut from the game that would again, be entirely focused on her and her dead kid plot
Making her not only a large chunk of the pacifist route but also the genocide one too.
morons like
act like its some sort of surprise for people to get annoyed at how she suddenly takes the entire games focus halfway through.
so true! the last third act should have been about legacy characters like sans and then papyrus goes goku mode!
I agree, they should have written Ceroba better
They should have just removed all of the furgay OCs from the game.
Don't you dare touch Martlet
It's ok she's a feathergay OC big difference
"HE'S TOUCHING THE BIRD!"
ALL furgay OCs have to go, including your gay waifu.
MARTLET WAS A BIRD WHO COULD HAVE BECOME A MOTHER TO ME!
True, I fricking HATED her in my first pacifist playthrough, I thankfully did neutral with one robot kill so I got the best of both worlds before seeing how she just derails the story as some super cool OC.
I wouldn't even have as much as a problem with her if they just replaced her genocide fight with a Starlo genocide fight or some shit dude, damn he was robbed.
Yeah, the devs really fricked up by making it entirely about their furpedo OCs
Is someone doing a double-falseflag by pretending to obviously samegay and make it look like the post author is a moronic samegay for shitting on Ceroba?
i think ceroba's writing is really imperfect and they could have improved a lot there, but it's like everyone who dislikes her is grasping at straws to form this thesis on why she singlehandedly ruins the entire game.
"playing favorites" with a character isn't necessarily bad, there's games like PMD:EoS with "partner characters" that execute this really well. the problem is that ceroba's plotline is too abrupt and intrusive and incomplete, and it attempted to completely replace the plot that was already set up.
the idea of a mother desperately clinging to a cause and to save her daughter actually has potential, and she's not even an intolerably obnoxious or stupid character until the end. the steamworks was still fun, her boss fight was also exciting. she's not fundamentally fricked as a concept, the devs just failed to make her work. they shoved her in instead of either toning her down or ingraining her into the story earlier and more naturally.
buuuut i guess nuance doesn't exist and you either have to white knight her or want to watch torture porn of her dying, so nevermind
Most normal people will agree on all counts anon, but some people just want to be mad
>but some people just want to be mad
People adore going to extremes because it leads to either people calling you omega based or makes people buttmad from your idiocy. That's how it do be unfortunatley.
i think most normal people are pretty indifferent to ceroba and were able to really enjoy the game as they played it, regardless of the flaws.
Ganker is not "normal people" though, it's a collection of coomers and baiters and morons and schizos and pedos, all of which are gonna have delusional outlier opinions
i love ceroba
i love making ceroba suffer
both are true
Then you don't really love her, Allah will punish you for your misdeeds
I love Ceroba and I want to give her lots of kisses and hugs and tell her everything will be alright and have a happy healthy family with her and get her the help she needs!
I also want to hurt Ceroba and tell her she's worthless and how Kanako is dead because of her and watch her break down sobbing apologizing for being such a failure!
You know what will happen next.
I don't want to strawman this, but... Isn't Undertale sorta the same? The entire plot revolved around the goat family and Flowey. I honestly thought it was kind of intentional that Ceroba was introduced in that way, first time I played through UTY Ceroba's dialogue felt forced and shoehorned in, but after learning what her true motives were, it makes sense she'd try to befriend Clover to give him a false sense of security and insert herself into his journey (maybe even try to gain his sympathy, as he himself is looking for 5 children). The pacifist ending does have its flaws, but with what they were working with, I think they did a pretty good job. I just wish there were more pacifist exclusive bonding cutscenes with the main cast. For example checking back on Dalv in snowdin as an obligatory requirement for the pacifist ending would've been cool, I am sure they could've expanded on it to allow him to play a more important role in the story. Also it did feel like an insult for Martlet, Starlo and Ceroba to let Clover sacrifice so easily. Unlike most people I feel that it was fine for the Kanako lab arc to be dropped, we already knew from UT that Alphys straight up became a shut in order to not have to give answers to the families of the amalgamates.
I didn't feel like she really impacted the dunes all that much, but the way the focus abruptly shifts toward her for the ladder half of the game is strange. ceroba to me is the main showcase for why yellow's story feels like it was rushed and/or poorly thought out.
also she should've been a cowgirl instead of what we got, but that's just my opinion
Yeah, having her character retain the western theme would have been waaay better than the weebshit we got. Clover being a cowboy and having an absence of a western climatic enemy/moment is criminal.
wrong
The East vs West thing was potentially pretty cool, but the Dunes and Starlo were so great and Ceroba was such a dreary nobody that it feels like we got the worse end of the deal.
>Ceroba after being asked to prove she's not brainless
yep, midwit FILTERED
Amen, brother
ceroba deserved to have her whole family taken from her because of her own stupid decisions and then cry herself to sleep every night thinking about what a frick up she is and how much she misses kanako
this guy plays k*rean gachas and jacks off to abuseslop
Ceroba deserved to be nothing more than a side character that was Starlo's wife.
should starlo use ceroba for his own pleasure?
>he is the law
>literally 0 people in the wild east gives a frick about ceroba
>She's so stupid that she would forget about it the next day
>Hell, maybe she's even into it
there's literally no downside of converting her into his personal onahole.
period.
he is too much of a wuss to do it even though there would be 0 consequences
He already has someone for that.
should be shot in the head and the balls with .45/70 govt repeatedly?
>he's a homosexual
>literally 0 people in the world give a frick about a shitty greentext spamming homosexual
>he's so brown nobody would miss him
>hell, he might be into it for the microsecond he can feel the round going through his balls and head
there is literally no downside to doing this. period.
there's a reason starlo never advanced.
>she pickpocketed Starlo's virginity
GIVE IT BACK
shut up prostitute
used goods have no rights to take starlo's pristine, never once washed virgin wiener.
That's fricking vile. What's with this godawful ship to begin with? Y'all are damaged.
don't talk to me until you've unbirthed kanako and repaired your hymen, prostitute.
>your first time would always be a disappointing, awkward experience with an actual manchild instead of a sensational, romantic session with the one guy you've always loved
>You've been defiled by the lowest excuse of a partner, and have had a failure of a child with her.
>what's even worse is that you ended up being even more of a failure than your husband and child
>Meanwhile, the man you loved had already moved on
what's even left for ceroba?
whoring herself out to human men like CLOVER
ceroba sucks absolute dick in sex.
And she leglocks HARD.
Ok, I admit it. I'm a coomer, I jerk off a lot and cum just as much as I fap. And I'll be honest. I want Clover more than anything now, I crave for Clover rule 34 to satisfy my need of nutting to his perfect design. He makes me feel things I've never felt, and the sole thought of his naked body makes my dopamine levels skyrocket to heights I thought were just not possible. I need to jerk off to Clover's boypussy.
Understandable, have a nice day.
I had a dream that Martlet and Clover hug each other at the end of neutral route then Flowey impales both of them at once while quoting Gravemind about two corpses in one grave.
Clover was BETRAYED by his friends and TRAPPED in the HYPERBOLIC SOUL CONTAINER for 100 YEARS
Monstroking must pay for their true grime..... vengance juandice must will delivered.... via GENOSLIDE... Epic Read Dead Revengance Stile,,,,
Again, go back to circlejerking on Reddit.
But what if was BETRAYED by Undertale Yellow and TRAPPED in the JAUNDICE CHAMBER for ALL ETERNITY?
No it's juandice (pronounced hwan-dice)
>instant justicegay seethe reply
god bless you TRAPPEDandBETRAYEDposter
Anon was SAVED by his friends and RESCUED from the HYPERBOLIC SHITPOST CHAMBER for FOREVER
Anon must repent for his anger..... forgivenoss must will happen.... via LOVE.... Epic understory yellow styile,,,,
>Need to go to bed so I can go to work
>Brain decides it's time to write an entire fight scene
>Come home next day with pages of notes
>Spend the rest of my free time writing a conversation that wasn't even in the notes
>Am now missing sleep again
I miss back when I hadn't played this and I was just lazy
I feel like a fricking dwarf fortress character taken by a bullshit mood and ignoring the need to breathe because there's a sick statue that needs to exist
Keep on writing my dude.
>Chujin says that he programmed Axis to apprehend, not kill
>Axis actually does just apprehend Clover if you fail to escape during the chase sequence
>Axis uses a loophole to try to kill Clover later
>In the justice route, Axis claims that he was "just following orders" when he murdered Integrity
Axis is a liar.
To be fair his programming is uncooked spaghetti code being held together by chewed gum and spit
Axis wouldn't have needed to use a loophole to attack Integrity I assume because his AI considered the ballet shoes kicking around to be a "drawn weapon"
FILE 6 existing in Undertale implies that Clover canonically does the genocide route at least once before resetting and finishing off with either Pacifist ending, because genocide is the only way he can get his own save instead of piggybacking off Flowey's
No, it means that Undertale Yellow fricked up by including Flowey.
I wish people called it the JUSTICE route.
Same
I wish it was actually a Justice route and not just Undertale's genocide route verbatim but with some morally conflicting scenes thrown in the middle
Clover spares those that surrender, at least.
Most monsters are willing to stop fighting after you hit them enough, is that not a form of surrender? Dunebud becomes almost immobile when it attacks at low health
Willing =/= Backing down. Waste as many turns as you want against a monster when its sparable, they will never make the decision to stop fighting first. It's still justified to finish the job even if they would take the mercy, because they arent offering any themselves
>but with some morally conflicting scenes thrown in the middle
Isn't kind of the point though to show how Clover's sense of justice gets progressively more and more zealous and two-faced because he's just killing monsters who likely never had anything to do with the other humans and even harming people who have very little to no ill intent?
>even harming people who have very little to no ill intent?
The closest you get to that is Starlo and even then thats only if you draw early or not at all, everyone else does genuinely have ill intent towards him the whole time. The rest of the stuff you can do thats horrible is completely optional like robbing Mo or killing mini bosses like Bailador
Clover flipflops back and forth from chara-tier psychopath to vaguely honorable between the dunes and steamworks
Even more depending on how you decide to play certain encounters
As someone trying to personally address that, there's just an insane level of thematic and character depth left unexplored
Were you the guy asking about what to do with martlet in a genocide rewrite fic? What's the progress on that so far if you are?
Yeah. I wrote out a bunch, and posted an early bit to get some feedback. Now I'm just going back and forth expanding different parts of my outline into actual writing and filling random holes as the mood catches me
I have (slightly) bigger plans than just a fic, so it's gonna be a while
I finished pacifist last night and I felt really bothered by the fact that they didn't follow up on the "Kanako is in the true lab" thing. I know it's cut content but after setting it up you'd expect something in the epilogue. Did Ceroba just forget to check up on her daughter after the fight with Clover?
It's cut content.
go on AO3 and look up "cover up the footprints"
it's a god-tier fanfic that will give you the ending you want, please trust me
>AO3
Just asking, and if it is you do you, but it's not weird porn is it? My only association with AO3 is anons rabidly shilling hardcore fetish fics on Ganker with links to that site. If it's normal-ish I'll give it a look
surprisingly pretty much everything undertale yellow related on Ao3 aren't porn related at all
it's mostly pretty good quality fanfics mostly relating to the various endings, like the one that anon recommended, though he forgot to say that there's a prequel to that one called 'the same mistakes'
It's an alternate ending story where ceroba talks clover down from suicide and eventually tries to get kanako back from the true lab. There's no porn, that's literally it, i'm not trolling.
it's a bit of a long read but please trust me, it's just really good and very emotional writing. Theres a prologue and epilogue too.
Got it, will check it out.
It would've been pretty neat if the game had a unique ending for if you kill ONLY enemies that attacked you with the intent to kill, meaning no clueless random encounters since their bullets are just how they greet each other for some reason, as an actual "justice" route that Clover would most likely do himself
How would that route end though?
I think they should have divvied neutral up to achieve that sort of thing.
>Low kill count = Clover gives up and goes with Martlet then Flowey intervenes
>High kill count = Clover remembers the job he came to the Underground to do and refuses to stay, ends similarly to flawed pacifist
>Very high kill count = Clover does not believe Martlet and threatens her, she leaves and Clover goes to fight Asgore alone
>How would that route end though?
Not well
>ceroba for romance
>mooch for sex
greedy starlo......what if he knocked mooch up?
But he proposed to Mooch just last week?
how would their babies look like?
child supports gonna be insane
I'm... not a furry....
Kiss squirrel on mouf
I shot Mooch and Moray during the second stage of the fight. The Fiesty Five are lucky that Starlo showed up.
Mooch not being allowed to have adult soda doesn't mean she's underage she could be 18, 19 or 20
In modern america
I only played the Justice route. I have the True Pacifist route a quick watch and it was gay tumblrshit with extra focus on those clear self insert fursonas. I really don't understand how jannies allow furgays who liked that crap route to establish a general on Ganker.
I'm not sure anything described in this post actually happened though
If moot was still around you furtrannies would be banned on sight.
Why is her snoot flaccid
Because she's trying to look non-threatening
That or she has muzzle dysfunction
she saw starlo
Not cool pardner
Well maybe if Starlo wasn't such a CRINGE NERD who was also UGLY and STUPID he wouldn't make women actively flaccid in his presence
Furtroony
lmfao
>pacifist didn't have extra focus on the fox family
Listen I think the genocide autists are annoying too but come on now
Oh, I must have skipped over that part. Yeah alright I'll concede one thing in that post happened, but that's still a pretty bad ratio of things that didn't happen to things that did
This game was less gay Tumblr shit than the original Undertale, though.
It makes up for it with the furnonce OC wank
>Cucked out of a legitimately cool cowboy vs cowboy fight with Starlo just to have more screentime with the furry OCs
That was the exact moment my disposition towards Ceroba went from neutral to active disdain.
Based, too bad these threads have been zombified by furgay OC fox and bird waifugays
I swear to god everyone in these threads hated Ceroba back in December to early January and now suddenly half the posters are Ceroba waifugays what happened
We fixed her, simple as
The reverse honeymoon period ended just like anyone with more than two braincells stopped thinking Toriel was a good character after the end of that honeymoon period.
People didn't hate Ceroba, they just called her a dumb stinky moron but wanted to fix her and the flawed + unfinished writing of the pacifist route.
Stockholm
As far as I can tell everyone is still in agreement that Ceroba is too dumb to live, but people memed it and as a result made it more acceptable. It went from being bad writing to funny writing
She's far more deserving to live than a few of the original game's main cast members.
I only agree with Alphys
If we got a true lab ending and it featured Ceroba beating Alphys half to death with her staff I think half the people who dislike dumbfox would immediately 180 out of pure catharsis
What about Undyne?
Martlet and Undyne will throw down.
It'll be kind of rad.
>Flawed Justice route where Clover's scoping people left and right including Ceroba, but spares Martlet and Starlo because they mean well
>Starlo still doesn't forgive him but Martlet is ready to go down her same "live with me where (you/the rest of monsterkind) will be safe" neutral path
>Starlo contacts the royal guards, mentioned Martlet's betrayal and the general bodycount
>Undyne is on their ass at 70 miles per hour
>she has a Determination syringe just in case
>Martlet still has her own syringe
Ehhh, Undyne, Muffet, Toriel, Mettaton and Sans to a degree also deserve a lot worse than what they got in the OG game when you think about it
Sans got trapped and betrayed in Gaster's hyperbolic dimension chamber with his brother though, what more punishment could he receive?
Being retconned into every fangame and being made aware of it in canon.
>Being retconned into every fangame and being made aware of it in canon.
Anon you might be being a bit TOO harsh here
Going the same way as Asriel does in Pacifist?
>trapped and betrayed in Gaster's hyperbolic dimension chamber
You're the only one continuing this argument, STOP trying to derail the thread.
nah
Yah. At an intrinsic level you really wouldn't be judged for lashing out at the kind of things Mettaton does to his own kind just to fuel his ego or at the mentality Undyne carries towards humanity and problem resolving as a whole (even if she's been born and raised to think that way).
nah
Toriel was just as reprehensible as Alphys and didn't even show a slight moment of self-awareness or regret over her actions (or inactions), nor did the game actively say anything bad about her at any point in time.
Both are pretty irredeemable and deserve death.
>puts determination into dying monsters in attempt to make their souls persist after death, had no idea it'd keep them alive or be that dangerous (and frankly had no reason to believe it'd prevent them from dying since the humans it came from were, y'know, dead)
vs
>puts blue vape juice into perfectly healthy daughter after being told like 20 times by her dying husband (who was dying specifically because he kept putting blue soul vape juice into himself) not to do it, knew it would probably frick her up but conceded and did it anyway after being asked very nicely a few times
The only thing Alphys really fricked up in was not telling the families.
>Alphys would be the most C A T H A R T I C kill in genocide if Toby let it happen
If Deltarune has a Weird Route where Alphys gets fricked up, whether you kill her or just ruin her life, it is going to derail SO many playthroughs
>I only agree with Alphys
Why only her? Looking at it objectively everyone except Papyrus is pretty bad
>Sans
Stands by while a guy slaughters literally everyone on neutral or genocide, refuses to be held culpable
>Asgore 'Seven is my Lucky Number' Dreemurr
Killed or issued orders to kill 6 kids, working on #7 by the time of UT
>Toriel 'Blame Someone Else' Dreemurr
Enabled all of the above, spurred the conflict on by encouraging said kids to kill monsters
>Mettaton
Perfectly willing to kill for the sake of his TV show and literally nothing else
>Undyne
Ironically probably the least reprehensible of the main cast except Papyrus who's literally innocent, the worst that can be said of her is that she's just doing her job
Asgore did nothing wrong.
Does Sans say that he would have already killed pacifist Frisk had Toriel asked him to spare Frisk?
Also, Undyne seemed much more murderous than just wanting to do her job.
>putting your promise above stopping someone who's committed actual murder and whose objective is to commit regicide or die in the process
Sans is a frickwit (and understandably so given his position) but that shit wouldn't fly by any reasonable standard of morality
>Also, Undyne seemed much more murderous than just wanting to do her job.
True, but in a court of law she couldn't really be found actually guilty of anything except doing her job given to her by the king
Yeah I'm not saying she's not a b***h, just that ironically she seems to me to be the least b***hy of the main cast
>Sans is a frickwit (and understandably so given his position) but that shit wouldn't fly by any reasonable standard of morality
I was only thinking about his hangout during the true pacifist route because that was the only route that I did.
>True, but in a court of law she couldn't really be found actually guilty of anything except doing her job given to her by the king
"Just following orders" doesn't work. Axis got justice blasted when he tried to use that excuse.
>the worst that can be said of her is that she's just doing her job
To be fair she is VERY enthusiastic about her job, its not like it's begrudgingly like the ch1 darkners. She's also willing to let the monster's hatred of humanity blind her and find reasons to attack a child who has done no wrong. Still yeah she's definitely the least reprehensible even with that because of her quick enough turn around later
Asgore was stuck between a rock and a hard place, he made a bad call due to grief and rage over his own son being killed while also needing to keep his people motivated (or else they would literally turn into dust due to depression) and couldn't take it back, not by himself at least. Toriel on the other hand always had the choice to just go back and undo that choice as the FRICKING QUEEN and as told by a bunch of people in the original game, the one that actually did all the ruling, but she didn't and instead actively made things worse while acting smug about it, and the game acts like that was a good thing.
Toriel only sacked Alphys shortly before she would be laid off anyway.
Toriel could always have talked Asgore down, but Asgore only felt like he had to keep going. He could have stopped at any time.
the sans point is why ts!sans is the best version
if you try to kill anyone when he's close by he stops you, he makes sure to minimize the amount of damage you can cause throughout the entire starlight isles, he calls the navy for backup, he coordinates very effectively with papyrus and even the boogiemen, and even if you don't kill anyone in the starlight isles, he STILL busts your balls and makes you prove that you changed your ways and understand how you've hurt people. and all that isn't even mentioning that he starts all of this BEFORE he even meets you, and he even escapes when he's about to lose so he can do it AGAIN. he's way more of "that dude" than ut sans could hope to be.
Because Ceroba's writing is so moronic, she has people making up their own headcanons that are vastly superior to what she actually is by default.
As a result, this:
The same thing as what happened to Fang
Everyone hated her, but a few people wanted to save her, and it rolled downhill from there
I was a day one Fang enjoyer and Ceroba enjoyer though.
Furtroons and monstergays took over. Jannies should really vanish this shit to /vg/ or /trash/
>hurm, why does the story game with furry characters have furry fans who like them instead of people who want to kill them all for fun?
you're being too much of a moronic homosexual to not be joking, but you're really committing to the bit here dude
Cope harder furfrick.
She's too endearing to be hated plus unlike Toriel she realizes that she did wrong and tries to redeem herself even if in a rather screwed up way.
I'm guessing those people just moved on, while the waifugays and average undertale/deltarune fans stuck around creating this whiplash effect.
See
I still hate her, but it's mostly on the backburner.
If I constantly hate her I wouldn't be able to enjoy funny writting about her.
>she realized her mistake
no she fricking didn't, she literally let the same thing that happened with Kanako all over again.
The only difference is that this time it actually managed to help monsterkind and just because it's another dead human for the list.
For a fox she's quite a b***h.
wow, it's juandicegay seethe time
>alphys apologist
holy shit lmao
She's far less of a moron than Ceroba and it's not even a contest.
Ceroba being LONELY and HORNY so she HOOKED UP with CLOVER(adult) in the STABLES but ended up getting CAUGHT by starlo because he was going to the stables to ask the horse how to finally CONFESS his LOVE to her
>how to finally CONFESS his Level Of ViolencE to her
Reminder that Undyne's been indoctrinated since childhood to fight humans
>Someone in the other thread posted a fricking snippet from Bird Brained with Undyne winking with one eye.
It's over lads, I've failed as an author.
maybe this thread will be better when I wake up tomorrow, if it's still here.
new discourse
is clover a virgin after the events of UTY if martlet adopted him?
have a nice day furpedos.
>talking about humans
>'furpedos'
huh???
ceroba should have had more screentime and been overtly promoted as part of the game just to filter out homosexuals like this guy instantly
anon is RIGHT Undertale Yellow should have had only Dalv following you from the dark ruins all the way to Asgore and no one else
What does the Flawed Corn route entail?
>dalv
it should have been sans cowboy mode
>sans cowboy mode
Would have been the fastest fricking instant alt+f4 I'd have ever done. This game isn't perfect, but thank FRICK I never had to see that fat homosexual.
Your pathetic trolling attempts aside, they should have relied more on legacy characters if the homosexual devs couldn't design good, Tobylike characters apart from Starlo and Axis.
I think UTY's biggest strength is limiting the use of the legacy cast, genuinely. Not every OC is good but it lets the game stand on its own. The limited screentime Toriel and Asgore get feel in character enough, but if they got any legacy character wrong for an extended period it would do more damage to the game than Ceroba's mental deficiencies.
A fair number of UT's npc's are just animal people themselves, it's hardly a stretch.
Imagine liking any of the furgay waifu OCs when the flower girls are sitting right there, waiting to be claimed with their NON-FURRY and VIRGINAL veganas
Nonces deserve death too. I got really heavy child rapist OC vibes from the flower girls when I saw them. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the developers is a legitimate pedophile.
>doesn't like the flower girls
>doesn't like the furry girls
Damn, tough crowd
Waifubait doesn't belong in games.
yep, still a midwit filter
Go rape a dog furgays.
>Mention the fact that Ceroba had a soul container during the true pacifist ending (and therefore must have had it during the fight against her)
>moron starts melting down because he thinks that this is bringing up an argument that ended two weeks ago
ceroba is the best and purest girl ever.
this with complete and utter sincerity
Yiff in hell, dog rapist
ceroba!Ceroba?Ceroba......ceroba.
If moot was still around your kind would have been rangebanned and reported to the authorities for raping dogs
The mods really need to do something about this furgay infested Ganker general already.
asgore was a midwit filter too ironically enough
Postan Roba
roba
deranged
Yes, deranged is exactly what you are, furpedos.
Yiff in hell.
I love how its impossible to tell whether or not burgerpants actually knows the genocide going on outside his work, he's just that fricking done with life as is
This thread makes Martlet sad.
Next thread I'm gonna need every single one of these
if its not asiaticslop its ceroba seethers having a melty
You will BURN dog rapist
What's in the glass
delicious steamworks coolant
Ah, the perfect beverage for the perfect woman then.
What if the coolant is actually pepto bismol
looks like some gay has too much free time
Limited time offer: Post this Roba and receive a melty within thirty seconds, or your money back!
Only while schizo stocks last, so hurry!
Yep, I'm thinking 'roba.
Burn in hell furfricks.
Because the furry OCs took preference over the little child.
alright you little homosexual 14 year old, so tell us what your ideal undertale game with ideal characters looks like. i want an entire write up, MLA format
What is she, a mare, to make people upsetti-spaghetti?
what do you think?
Enjoy your vacation, horsefrickers.
Why does the kid pull his fricking heart out in the one end? They still need one kid he can't just live life until then?
Why are people so content with burning down a random fangame thread for the lolz?
Say goodbye to your threads, monstergay.
>Martlet and Clover walk towards Asgore's castle after the flawed pacifist route.
>"STOP RIGHT THERE!" An angry, gruff voice calls out, as heavy footsteps approach them.
>A blue spear is thrown at their feet.
>Martlet and Clover both turn around, Undyne's glaring at the two of them.
>"C-Captain Undyne?"
>"SAVE IT YOU DAMN TRAITOR! THAT STAR-FARMER ALREADY TOLD ME EVERYTHING! I'M TAKING THAT MURDEROUS LITTLE RUNTS SOUL STRAIGHT TO ASGORE MYSELF!"
>"C-Can't we just talk this-"
>Undyne charges towards them, ready to fight.
>Instead of being given a spear to defend himself like with Frisk, Clover takes the spear she threw first to block the attacks directed at Martlet
>Just as before, Martlet's instincts kicked in and she tried to gain as much distance as possible
>Just as before, Clover's assassin clipped her wings. Directly, this time.
>The bird shrieks and involuntarily drops Clover, clutching at the spear jammed in her humerus. It was anything but.
>Clover rolls onto the blank gray street, losing his revolver in the tumble. Undyne quickly kicks it away.
>"Sorry, kid, but I heard what you can do. No chances, not this time."
>a second shriek erupts from the bird, startling both Clover and the guard.
>Clover turns and unconsciously grabs the handle of the spear, no longer in Martlet.
>"We're so close." Her chirp is weak and her breathing erratic. "Protect yourself and run. Leave me, the surface is right thERE..." she gets out before the pain cuts off her thoughts.
>Clover backs toward her until he's right in front of her,, eyes focused on the aggressor.
>"Are you dumb?" the bird wheezes. "She's the captain, she'll kill you!" She grips Clover's leg with her good wing, failing to get his attention.
>The wind is howling...
This would go so hard as an alternate ending where you get one shot at beating Undyne.
>She's as hard as Zenith Martlet
>You HAVE to either kill her or beat her into submission.
>Spear after spear is flung at Clover, as Undyne begins to close the distance between them.
>Clover stands in front of Martlet, deflecting each spear thrown their way, although a few manage to get through his guard, bouncing around the wall and slamming into his side.
>Undyne leaps forwards, having closed the distance between them enough to lunge out with a direct attack with her own spear.
>Clover rolls to the side, Undyne's spear slams into the spot they were, digging into the ground and cracking the stone road around it from the sheer force of her attack.
>"Clover, RUN!" Martlet cries, only for Undyne to swivel around to face her, reeling her boot back and slamming it into her face.
>"SHUT UP! You'd save a human over all of us- All of our hopes, our dreams of seeing the future?! You'd give it all up just for THEM?!" Undyne snarled at Martlet, who was far too injured to respond other than groan.
>Clover's SOUL resonated with great power, as they slowly reeled the blue spear back in their hand, the blue of the spear shifted to a vibrant, glowing yellow.
>They threw the spear forwards, Undyne spinning around too late, as it slammed into her, sending her flying back.
>Another yellow spear manifested in Clover's hands, as they began to walk towards her.
>Undyne grinned, gripping her own spear tightly.
>"Fine then, I guess now it's a REAL fight!"
no continuation? fine,
>the fight went on for hours
>spear clashing with spear, blood mixed with loose dust.
>clover could barely do any damage to undyne
>but as the fight went on, he delt a little more damage
>bit by bit, you could see his attacks starting to scare undyne.
>until finally...
>1 hp remaining
>undyne was on the ground panting.
>"alright kid, last attack. better hit hard, cause if you dont...", undyne laughs under her breath
>"ive got a whole world of hurt for you."
>* spare
>"... what?"
>* spare
>"do you think im going to take your mercy?"
>* spare
>"DO YOU TAKE ME FOR A FOOL?!"
>* spare
>"you killed someone. and now you think you can just resolve it with 'i dont want to fight'?"
>* spare
>"what about her family and friends? do you think that they're happy you didnt tell her you didnt want to fight?"
>"well newsflash, human rat. im not accepting it."
>* spare
>"you've got one more chance. no matter what you do im going to attack if you dont kill me"
>...
>"do you want to know why i did it? why i killed ceroba"
>undyne winds up for a battle stance, but actually stops with a confused look on her face
>"alright, you got me. why?"
>"because she killed her own daughter."
>both undyne and martlet look shocked
>"oh gosh..."
>"WHAT DID YOU SAY?"
>"she killed her own daughter, and then asked for me to kill her. if such a person fought you and made the same request, would you not have done the same?"
>undyne looks mad now
>"so you're telling me that this whole time, while i thought ive been fighting for someone who i THOUGHT WAS INNOCENT. FOUGHT TO BRING JUSTICE TO SOMEONE WHO DIED..."
>undyne's expression shifts to a disappointed one.
>"... i was actually fighting the person who brought justice to another who died?"
>"afraid so, ma'am."
1/2
2/2
>undyne unclenches her fist, manifests a spear.
>"look, forget it. i still have to fight you. asgore needs seven souls to open the barrier, if i let you live im letting you stand in the way of everyone's hopes and dreams."
>undyne and clover both prepare for one final clash, one hit from the other would certainly kill
>"WAIT!"
>"what is it, traitor?
>"we only have five souls, right?"
>"thats correct. where are you going with this?"
>"w-well, if we only have five then it makes no difference if clover dies now or ten years from now. he only needs to die when the next human falls. which could take a long time."
>undyne sighs and drops her spear, its magic dispersing as it hits the ground
>"alright, fine. the human rat can live with you martlet"
>"... but if that kid ever even thinks about hurting an innocent monster, he wont get let off like this."
>"im... im going to go tell asgore about the situation. im sure he'll understand."
>undyne walks off, d-"
>"oh yeah. martlet, cant leave you on the royal guard like this. i expect your badge and uniform in three days."
>undyne walks off, defeated.
>"well... i dont think that could have gone any better than it did. lets go home, clover."
>the whole time, flowey has been sitting in the shadows. he wants to reset, but at the same time he wants to see how this ends
>besides, maybe he could use clover and the next human together to help bring down asgore and get the souls.
>This isn't a gun. He's not used to this. He's untrained.
>He says nothing, but needs not to. He's scared.
>Martlet can't do anything. She's stupid. When Ceroba told her about a "secret measure" in the Wild East, and then she saw the syringe laying in the lab... she should have put it all together and taken it with her.
>This is the second time she's on the ground, watching the kindest SOUL she ever met fight for justice.
>She's a royal guard, damnit! They protect the innocent! YOU protect the innocent, Martlet!
>She tries to remember the guidebook. She has it, but what's the point of having it in a real emergency when you need to act? You have to KNOW what to do!
>He's tired. He's slowing down.
>Undyne isn't.
>He trips and time stops. Martlet is frozen. She can't move an inch. FILE8LOADEDFILE8LOADEDFILE8LOADEDFILE8LOADEDFILE8LOADEDFILE8LOADEDFILE8LOADEDFILE8LOADEDFILE8LOADEDFILE8LOA
>Oh my god. I'm going to watch him die.
>It's my fault. I could have kept him away from Ceroba and prevented all this. Took him to my house, hid him away forever. Move if she came for him.
>I can't move at all.
* Protocol for an innocent mon—
>Whatever force kept her in place stopped. She dived like a condor on top of the child.
>"MOVE."
>Martlet looks up and immediately averts her gaze. The violence in Undyne's eyes is like a physical knife in her chest.
>"Protocol 1 for an innocent," monster, "in peril. Position," monster, "out of harm's way as soon as possible."
>"M-MOVE."
>Martlet looks back up. Undyne has lost her composure.
>"Protocol 2 for an innocent in peril. If circumstances prevent immediate escape, take a protective stance and buy time."
>"You think that human is INNOCENT? They lock us in here, come in one by one to pick off survivors, and this one's weapon is still warm... and you want to protect him like he's INNOCENT?"
>"Protocol 3: When escape is impossible, defend innocent with your life."
>Martlet clutches Clover tightly.
>flowey spam loading file 8 so that martlet could slowly remember the protocol
lmao
>"I don't have any more of a problem killing a TRAITOR than a human."
>Martlet doesn't believe her. The body language doesn't match and her posture is off.
>He tries to get up. Martlet stops it. If all she can give him is a moment to catch his breath, it's more than she'd ever done for him before.
>"I didn't join the guard for health insurance or bragging rights." She's actually lying but it felt true now. "We protect the Underground."
>"From THEM."
>"Clover is in the Underground now! He has friends and he's helped people and—"
>"ARE YOU STUPID?" Undyne raises her spear.
>"Maybe, but I'm right! Who are you to judge?"
>"Undyne, leader of the Royal Guard. Who are YOU?"
>"Martlet, of the— no. Martlet, friend."
>"Then I guess you're not even a TRAITOR anymore."
>Martlet prepares for the end.
>no
>no no no
>no no no no no no
>Undyne screeches like a banshee, clutching her eye. Clover did it to her. He jumped out to protect her.
>She's frozen again. She's not—
>"...you're gonna have to try a little harder than THAT."
>Martlet isn't in the way of the spear.
>It was all for nothing.
>The only spear left is Undyne's original, buried in the ground as a makeshift pole to lean on. Martlet doesn't know where the gun went.
>She can't even get revenge.
>In one arm Undyne clutches the container with Clover's
>with Clover.
>The other arm is pressed on her eye socket. He left a permanent parting gift.
>"I should KILL you." the captain says, not even looking at Martlet. "I can settle for seeing your disgrace."
>She removes the hand from her face to grab the spear. The gash is horrible.
>Undyne still doesn't even look at Martlet as she takes her first uneven steps forward. Martlet is in the way. She's shoved aside. Undyne says nothing more as she leaves.
>She cradles the husk that was Clover.
>It starts to rain, she thinks.
>"Ceroba... I understand now. Why you did what you did. I know what you thought you needed to do. Even if it was wrong."
>"It was wrong."
>"It's wrong."
>It's wrong.
>Martlet knows where the serum is.
I had the first part half-written but couldn't think of the right prose and put it off. Hopefully I did alright after stewing on it.
>Martlet knows where the serum is
Undyne is so dead, isn't she?
Anyway uhhh...sporty 'roba sexo.
The mods will delete your gay little furfrick thread and you will be moved to /vg/ or /trash/ where you belong.
hows 8th grade going champ
How's hell going? Furpedo.
ceroba...
THE roba
This Roba needs to ease off the Feisty Sliders, she's starting to look a bit much like a tumblrite
there's nothing wrong with chubbroba though
Hey frick you, Roundroba is cute
She looks quite chubby.
is she wearing a pentagram bikini
wtf Ceroba is a satinist?????
maybe
its from her real design
>Clover finds Martlet's old punk gear in her attic, leading to the bird telling lots of embarrassing but happy stories from her past
>Kanako finds out her mom is still wearing hers underneath her kimono
kinky fricking bastard
ahhhh so thats where kanako got her fat fetish from.
>choker
>pentagram bikini
>does witch shit
holy fricking shit is the roba goth
maybe
while scrolling by i thought that was supposed to be chujin for a second
When somebody makes a femboy Chujin green, know that it was YOUR FAULT
>femboy Chujin
>implying it's a bad thing
His last name is Ketsukane for a reason.
People have mentioned femboy Chujin a bunch of times, but no one's actually done anything with it. Bunch of cowards around here
Except for the anon who dreams of Chujin, he's something, but not a coward
>the anon who dreams of chujin
sounds like a dark souls boss
Zanziroba...forgive me...
>Gwyn's Theme but the main motif is replaced with that of the Ben 10 theme
My sides are gonna burst.
the kanako questline hit real hard
why does starlo has his wiener out
Best boy!
Just fricking die off already furnonces
is that really the best you can do? come on really let me have it i believe in you!
You belong in /trash/ or even better, in hell, furpedo.
Seethe you impotent little homosexual. Anthro chads won. Anthro board, anthro website. Kneel.
Your furfrick thread is getting deleted and there's nothing you can do about it, coomer cuck.
Orllynao? Then how come these threads always hit the bump limit? Fall on your knees before we break them. Resistance is futile.
Your last thread was deleted and this one will be too.
That's not what I remember, and even if it does get deleted it doesn't matter because more will be made. It's over for you. Surrender.
Don't bother, if he wants to bump our thread and scream into the void, let him. Just keep talking about the video game.
Damn that sucks, guess we’ll just keep making more. Gonna cry? I think you’re crying and shitting your diaper right now.
Get this man a True…
I'm trying this game out and I've decided to start with genocide because that seems fitting since the char apparently went to the underground for revenge and I've never done a genocide run in an Undertale type game
Killed three of those little fly dudes and I feel like fricking garbage, pretty rad how you shoot shit with a gun though
Btw is this like Undertale in that if you do genocide you can't go back without consequences?
Nah, go wild, anon.
cerobros and martchads teaming up to bully the terminally-online 8th grade vidya puritan antifurry
>Zoomer horror game gif.
Go back to TikTok, underage furhomosexual.
i must confess i've found a way to generate decent enough ceroba aislop and i've been enjoying the results of nezumi style chubby roba
THE Roba has won yet again
robarobaroba
This game was ruined by furhomosexualry and this general only lives off of furhomosexualry, you belong on /trash/ or in hell.
I will DEFEAT Mooch in hand-to-hand combat
I will DEFEAT Mooch in dick-to-cervix combat.
I will DEFEAT Mooch in Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike (neither of us know how to play)
for me it's challenging her to Arcana Hearts 3 and then just picking whatever random character/arcana combination sounds the coolest
Ceroba's syrupy pawjobs....
syrupy?
He's confused Ceroba for Kanako, whose legs have begun to melt into syrup from the DT injection
Ceroba thinks syrup is an acceptable substitute for lubricant
Hug Ceroba. Love Ceroba. Take Ceroba on walks through the park. Tuck Kanako into bed. Take Ceroba out for dinner. Cook Ceroba's favorite meal. Bring Ceroba to the surface. Introduce Ceroba to human food. Jump into Mt. Ebott to save Ceroba. Take Ceroba for a lovely evening drive. Help Ceroba repair her house. Lovingly hold Ceroba's head during a kiss. Help Ceroba evade the IRS. Princess carry Ceroba. Give Ceroba lots of children. Sleep in while cuddling Ceroba. Take out the trash for Ceroba. Wipe Ceroba's tears from her face. Eat Ceroba's practice cooking. Pet Ceroba. Pull Ceroba into bed. Go hiking with Ceroba. Bake birthday cakes with Ceroba. Teach Ceroba new skills. Send Ceroba to Kitsune College. Congratulate Ceroba for having grown many tails. Have a large family with Ceroba. Build new bedrooms for each of your children with Ceroba. Dig your own pool in the backyard with Ceroba. Teach Ceroba how to shoot a gun. Grow old with Ceroba. Build up Ceroba's confidence. Clean Ceroba's shrine maiden outfit.
The Rober
>had a fever
>drank some water and slept
>Woke up feeling nothing in my arms and legs and my vision being extremely blurry
>slowly but surely, discovered that my arms are moving 20 seconds after I command them to
>shit.Must be some new neural disease.
>after several long and gruelling minutes, I managed to get off my bed and go to my phone to dial 911
>scrambled out my room
>instead of my house I was greeted with a dark laboratory
>I walked around it with my delayed senses , avoiding obstacles and slowly exploring it
>in somewhere, I found light.
>I walked towards it-actually, no, crawl would be the better word to use.
>It was chujin, he was.....sitting in front of a computer
>I scurried closer, body barely responding to my commands
>He was doing something with his hands
>He was......jerking off?
>No, no....it can't be.......but the rhythmic strokes....
>Siddenly my body gained it's own conciousness and was out my control
>walked much faster towards chujin
>I can see the screen now, on the screen, it was some CCTV cam of starlo and ceroba having missionary.
>he turned his head at me and smiled
>'greetings.....my new specimen.Now......let the fun begin.'
>my body is now right in front of him.I crawled down the table, positioned myself....
>and started throating his wiener.
>it hurts.It really hurts.My throat was on fire.
>meanwhile he was laughing like a maniac, and moaning something about ceroba as the footage of her fricking starlo with sound plays
>Its like some sort of ancient Japanese torture that's slowly rotting my mind
>I tried to stop but my body just continues doing the work
>Eventually, he came.A warm blob was filling the back of my throat.Somehow, it just hurts worse.
>Passed out after that
>Woke up.For real this time.
>Tfw my throat is even more sore now
>Tfw something sticky is in the back of my throat
I should quite undertale yellow.
please tell me this wasnt an actual dream and that you're just trying to abusepost.
it was an actual dream.I don't think I will see chujin in the same way again.
I partially blame you gays.
bro
>tfw no chujin incubus draining me when I sleep
why even live
Roba
This is one of those AI generated pieces isn't it
Hush and drink your oddly shaped bottles of maple syrup. Don't pay attention to the fact that Roba has a tail, or is massive. Nothing wrong here.
That is not Ceroba, jesus
Of course not! It's my original character, Cebora! Donut Steel. Her multiple fingers and wrist joints means she can inject even more syringes! She's the COOLEST!
I literally went and deleted the picture after downloading it, frick that.
Had a cool what if for you guys.
>Revival fic, because frick you of course it is.
>Although Clover did flawed pacifist, so Starlo hates him and Ceroba's dust in new home.
>It's post-pacifist undertale, so he's just wandering around the underground trying to figure out what's going on or who saved him.
>Finds Martlet, she's absolutely amazed to see him and promises to keep him safe after a sappy re-union between the two of them, apologizes for letting Asgore kill them.
>Clover decides to stay with her as the two of them leave the underground, all the other humans have also seemingly left.
>Frisk works to setup a camp at the base of Ebott with the help of Toriel and Asgore doing diplomacy shit in the background.
>Despite being on the surface, Clover doesn't leave Martlet's side, staying in the camp that's been setup for the monsters to stay in while the diplomacy-shit's worked out.
>Martlet's confused as to why Clover's staying with them, although they don't say anything. They grow a lot closer, with Martlet essentially being Clover's caretaker. She notices just how clingy they are, and is honestly a little worried about what their parents might be like.
>Run ins and events with Dalv, an extremely bitter Starlo and finally the human negotiaters.
>The humans are all brought in to be questioned about how they died and when they died who killed them ect, final stages of the negotation.
>Clover admits Asgore killed him, but also admits he killed another monster, so he deserved it.
>Both sides just agree to let it slide, mostly because they already had integrity who had slaughtered dozens of monsters to sort out and send home to their parents as well.
>Despite all the stuff being implied to be going on in the background, it'd just be entirely focused on Clover and Martlet dealing with the immediate aftermath of the barrier falling and Clover's own actions in the flawed pacifist route.
>as Clover is about to shoot Starlo in the genoslide route, Ceroba quickly jumps in and takes the bullet for Starlo.
> "Orange skies" cutscene still plays out similarily with Ceroba dying in Starlo's arms
>Starlo begins to mald so hard he actually becomes competent enough to fight you. While he's at it he shoots the town bell 5 times and calls up the rest of the Feisty Five (that's their signal or something)
>Each feisty five member will have a specific debuff effect on Clover while alive during the fight, choose wisely the order in which you take em down for the best chance of winning.
>Ed: FEARLESSNESS - Will take all of the blows for whoever you target first, so naturally he'll be the first to go down, a nice parallel to the trolley problem.
From that point on you can target whoever you choose, Starlo will always dodge your hit though, will go about that in a bit.
>Moray : EXCELLENCE - All attacks deal an extra hitpoint or two until Moray goes down (Couldn't think of anything else)
>Mooch: SNEAKINESS - Will occasionally steal one of your items, simple as.
>Ace : INTUITION - If you choose to use an item, the Feisty Five will use their turn to heal a little as well. If you FIGHT, they will all preemptively be put on guard and raise their defense.
>Starlo: FOCUS - He uses his slow down focus mechanic from his pacifist/neutral fight to dodge your bullets , will be the last one standing. He will resort to one final dual, and you WILL need to land a crit to finish him off and come on top.
thoughts?
>UTY's item economy
I think I would actually pass through the screen and strangle that little fricker if she stole my items
We better get out items back after killing mooch
Pnes
https://pastebin.com/RXEEbjTP
shameless repost of a change in perspective part 3 for those that are interested
>AU where Frisks swaps with Chara but Temmie swaps with Asriel
I wonder if having your soul absorbed by someone you're allergic to is as bad as it sounds like could be
>Goddess of Hyperdeath Temmie
Not sure if want.
why would you not want that
ZAMN!! Frisk's wife looks like that?!
I wonder how that pussy feels like
What's the first thing Clover would do as Martlet's adopted child?
No I don't mean (you)r deranged fanfic.
kidnapped by the robe
They have sex afterwards
God I love how beautiful this Ceroba looks! The artist did a spectacular job at capturing her beauty.
>clover accidentally says love you lots to ceroba
>ends up adopting him before he can kill himself
>he's now forced to wear kanako's old clothing
>UT's true pacifist ending happens
>kanako brought back to normal cause boss monster soul and blue juice
>stares at clover with a blank expression, who is now more or less dressed exactly like her
>ends up adopting him before he can kill himself
You'd think he'd redouble his efforts
Every time Clover makes an attempt Flowey reloads the save
Every time Martlet tries to rescue him and get him away from Ceroba Flowey stabs her and reloads the save. Clover doesn't remember it but subconsciously knows not to follow
Flowery is a Ceroba bro???
He actually ships Kanako and Clover but the road to the lab was blocked so he had to what he could get
Don't worry the roba will probably feed him something deadly like Tide pods because they look pretty or a lithium battery because it looks shiny within a month the kid is as good as dead anyway
>its 21XX
>the monsters were releases from the barrier
>but due to their nature, they couldn't coexist with humans, since a slightest nudge from either side could cause immediate death
>most monsters decided to stay in the underground, only occasionally going above for leisure activities in an extremely controlled environment.
>.......most monsters, except the addicted.
>You see, some monsters had picked up some.....problematic habits when they are on the surface
>Meth, weed, heroine, you name it.
>unfortunately, the underground is incapable of producing drugs
>So, they stayed above.Living in slums, doing crimes in exchange for narcotics.
>Ceroba was one of those addicts.
>She can't blame herself.To be fair, black tar really numbed her pain.
>but to get more, she needed money.
>fortunately, even though all her friends had left her, starlo left a parting gift.
>mooch.
>equally addicted to heroine, mooch taught her a way to get it without selling her body, her dignity.
>stealing is morally wrong, but you know what?She would rather do the wrong thing than enduring withdrawls.
>in exchange, she taught mooch the ways of living normally.How to cook, how to wash her own clothes, how to take a bath.....
>in some odd, toxic way, they are like mothers and daughters.
>Ceroba even started getting her motherly instincts back from tending her.
>things suck.But it seems to get better.
>until one day, when she's back from buying some groceries.
>mooch is gone.
>according to her neighbors, she was caught stealing....from the wrong people.
>they are going to sell her as a prostitute.
>Ceroba just walked silently to her wardrobe, wore a tattered jacket and grabbed her staff before going out in a rush
>Hope she's not too late.
How's this a UT fangame idea?You have to battle your drug addiction while being in a race to rescue mooch
undertale Heroin(e)
LISA the moronic
That's yiik
>Damnit Ceroba, nobody cares about your dead daughter! We almost just died ourselves!
The best character in Undertale.
MOTHER 4 real???
We just have to wait for Winter 2014
how would the addiction and time mechanic work in an undertale style game?
what if ceroba took her heroin or rescued mooch too late ?
Pizza tower style.
Ceroba have to complete sections on time and collect enough money for a fix or she would lose hp every 5 seconds
And if she haven't rescued mooch after certain time periods mooch would have to actually serve rougher and rougher clients and gets more and more mindbroken
the ending depends on how long you took to save her and would you be able to live normally afterwards.
>mooch gets more ruined as time goes on
but.....mooch is already ruined.....by starlo......
starlo would never be brave enough to advance
That's why he needs someone who knows how to wrangle him.
>On time mooch is unscathed and gives ceroba a 🙂 face before they both applies for an underground drug quitting programme and reconciles with their friends
>late mooch gets more and more perverted and the lifestyle they adapted became worse and worse
>Super late mooch became a bawd and dragged ceroba down to her path of prostitution
>not on time mooch straight up got sold to another side of the world and ceroba killed herself due to the guilt
>mooch corruption route
you cant corrupt the tainted
Mooch is innocent and pure.
Mooch would NEVER
I love him. That's all.
>They prefer factory made Ceroba over home grown
Forgot my image, whoops
>Mass produced 'Robas at bargain prices!
How's everyone's Martlet Monday?
Even in fangames, the shopkeeps are pure SEX
she replaced the snowdin rabbit, right? so of course she had to be pure sex to match
Strap-on or futa?
Had ceroba ever tried anal
she's japanese
Why do you think they only had one kid? Chujin loved getting stuffed
bend over
Any cool genocidefic? "After the dust settles" is a simple and short yet satisfying add-on to clover leaving the underground with the souls and it left me with the desire for MORE GENOFICS
Can you link it?
>Martlet is the most beloved character
>Ceroba gets all the fanart
Strange...
Foxes are a popular species for furries.
everyone wants the fox milf
fox sex
simple as
MartletKINGS can't stop winning
Martlet!
>i will never get to bury my face there ostrich style
it's hard to draw beaks
Martlet is more likable but I want to make sure Ceroba is happy.
this
I see you king.
>We've now managed to loop back around to Undertale's original philosophy.
Toby would be proud.
What do you mean anon?
All I want is a happy life for her, free of all the trauma and suffering, away from the mistakes of the past.
where are her boobs
Sorry. Starlo drank all her milk up.
He had to replenish
Frisk, Chara, Kris, Clover
Who's the most frickable of them all?
Clover but that may change depending on how bratty Chara is
Kanako.
Frisk has the cutest personality. They'd be the best boywife, but also he is not that handsome.
Chara is the hottest, sexiest but we know they're an butthole.
Clover is the second hottest and best shota. Perfect balance between sexy and cute.
Kris is the worst because he's too boy-ish but he has a nice butt.
fluffy puffy
Mooch's squnny
Based
Why does Dalv have autism
Why does Martlet have downs
Why does Starlo have JAUNDICE
They all look moronic
I actually like this Ceroba but she's in a weird pose. It's like she's a regular NPC or something.
>That Martlet
wow this thread was fricking awful
Why must this always devolve into Asuka vs Rei bullshit
it isn't even asuka vs rei its
>wow asuka sucks what if she killed one of the asukagays then killed herself after raping the penguin and shinji at the same tine with her futa wiener and then misato necks herself too
?
What the frick are you even saying, stupid moron?
I'm pretty sure it's just one guy pushing the tribalism narrative and most Ceroba/Martlet fans don't really care.
hey as someone who only played the original undertale years ago and just recently finished yellow, can someone explain to me why flowey is so powerful in the neutral route? in the original game it's because he gets the six souls but he seems just as powerful in yellow's boss fight as well
It's all happening inside Flowey's head. None of it is real.
yeah that makes sense, I misinterpreted the part when he grabs your soul
thanks anons
The fight takes place in his mind, he’d already absorbed your soul at that point and he’s fighting to fully assimilate it.
he jumped on Clover after killing Martlet and by that point you're in his head
eeyikes
but at least it works well
>why are you making a fricking loop to do regex searches every time something is typed
uhh
if you do it for every textbox instead of every letter it's acceptable
otherwise it is really wasteful
you just need to assign the sound file to a stream player when the text first shows up/advances and play/stop it based on the letters shown
I'm gonna try to make it check for each advance on the textbox and then set the character for that textbox instead of per character typed
there we go. Much better. now it only checks the speaker every time a new textbox advances.
>Always thought Asrielgays were pathetic/obsessed over him not getting a happy ending
>MFW the exact same thing happens to Clover
I mean for the same reason what Asriel had done as flowey should be forgiven the same way you should for not doing a genocide route, going back and doing the right thing, it's sort of fricked up that Asriel is stuck as a Flower because some omnicidal lunatic convinced him (someone who was probably 8) into a suicide pact to totally become a super hero to save monster kind.
this is what UTY animations look like compared to UT
mario if he booty
https://twitter.com/SillyFrootArtzz/status/1754169506618872067
>fight
I wanted a Clover x Martlet SEX animation.
loverobaloverobaloveroba
so true
3>4>2>>>1
When are we getting the Ceroba design for this
the entire game should of been japanese themed to be quite brutally honest
nah
yeah though
Frickin cheese wedge lookin ass
I AM THE CHEESE
I AM THE BEST CHARACTER IN THE GAME
https://twitter.com/87_G0D/status/1754534913255334303
Martlet is cute in that pic
>dalv just watching
nice beachrob-
>troony starlo
Yuck
That's just his manboobs.
why the frick does starlo have mastectomy scars
Fricking ruined.
starlogays deserve troon starlo
Why
Because they're Starlogays and not StarloCHADs.