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She’s blocking the entrance to Gaster’s Secret Lab
how good is this compared to the original
its a fun romp overall, i think its a much more fun game than undertale (with the exception of a few bosses) but the story has a few holes in it
genocide is considerably less of a slog and the neutral final boss takes the original's neutral boss and expands on it in a much better way
>genocide is considerably less of a slog
Well that just neuters the entire point of that route.
Not necessarily. It takes away from UT’s point of geno, but you could argue that UTY has a different point to theirs. UT was more about calling out doing horrible things just see what happens, so it being a tedious slog makes sense. UTY doesn't really mention that, it more makes the argument that your "Justice" is rather skewed than what might be reasonable.
Clover is also noteably less of a player puppet than Frisk and has his own in-universe reason to go on the path of genocide (JUSTICE)
It’s competent and worth a playing, the art and character designs hard-carry it, it looks so much better than the original. It will probably make you feel things.
It mogs the original.
It's good, but it's not that good. The music is comparable, the characters are better, but the story as a whole is worse.
that's like saying that knuckle sandwich mogs mother 3
>that focuses on furbait
sweet
>He doesn't like Knuckle Sandwich
...Nah, it's not even irony worthy like YIIK
all he needed to do was follow up on the fricking story he had set up from the demo, man. i don't get why he abandoned it after the freezer chapter.
J-just you wait! It'll get as big as OMORI and Undertale some day! It's just underappreciated!
>J-just you wait! It'll get as big
I think a certain man with hands would like to speak with you.
knuckle sandwich makes me feel good because it sucks and wasn't popular, confirming my belief that indie game popularity is a meritocracy
i wish it didn't suck. seven years of waiting just to find out that the butthole didn't actually have anything other than a hundred shooter minigames and the worst basic attacks of any rpg, coupled with a nonsensical plot that completely ignored everything everyone liked about the demo's setup until the very end of the fricking game. hey, maybe it'll get its fricking yiik redemption.
yeah and the art and music were good at least. i can forgive the shitty gameplay but the story is one of the worst i've seen, every character is a boring nonentity and every plotpoint is moronic
funny that i can listen to nelward's contributions to the ost and not actually like the regular music he makes.
it's hope, anon. hope that meme magic will become real again, that the brothers will actually unfrick their complete travesty of a game. everyone loves a comeback story. everyone wants to see it
Does Yeek Ivy even have a release date yet? I'm interested in it but it's been so long since the initial announcement that there's nothing to talk about until it's playable
why the frick are so many homies talking about knuckle sandwich all of a sudden? i'm saying "so many" because i'm thinking in terms relative to the game's player count
why have so many people in recent threads been mentioning yiik?
lol
It's very impressive for a fangame, to the point it doesn't really feel like one. However, Undertale is still many steps above it.
wrong though
right THOUGH
reminder that chujin made the house so big as an excuse to frick his wife even more
too bad he died due to his stupid plan, he should have instead have bred ceroba so he would have an army of children boss monster soldiers, who he would then arrange marriages with other boss monsters to further the lineage
>dress chujin
mmmf
Did you draw that?
No, I got it from another Yellow thread. I hope whoever drew it draws more
Why does he look more feminine than his wife?
To attract mates
maybe on planet moron
prove me wrong
yellow as a whole is not better than Undertale just because it has 7 years of people making it pretty
ok, how u know?
Am I being trolled? AnonGPT? What the frick is this reply? What did he mean by this?
so you don't know
because I fricking played both and I have critical skills you idiot
Here is a critical skill you are missing. Don't argue with gay furgays because that's all they do all day when someone tells them to frick off from catcalls
worked
nta, but for all it's flimsy worldbuilding and somewhat undercooked setting details, UT actually had a satisfying narrative climax in it's Pacifist Ending. Unlike UTY.
>nonsensical difficulty curve (enemies on the first area harder than enemies on the last fricking area)
>music is not even close to Tobias McZorro's level
>Story completely falls apart and ends up feeling pointless (no theme, no nothing to it. Ask yourself: what really changes by the end of the pacifist route?)
>Visuals are definitely better lol
Sorry anon. It's a good game, but don't lie to yourself.
as impressive as the artistic side of it is, it has a lot of issues, mostly on the writing side, that are mogged by UT
just because bailador has like 25 frames of animation doesn't mean he's a better character than Muffet, who has like, 10 in total
nta but
>muffet is memorable because "muh spider boobs :ooooooooo"
>el bailador is memorable because he's extremely likely to whoop your ass the first time through and has the first new soul mode in the game
since is not official, nor canon or approved with the owner, nah.
It is better than the original, but not THAT much better. Then again, I don't think the original is a masterpiece or anything, just something pretty good. I don't know how common that opinion is around here
undertale is a parody of earthbound americana and jrpg tropes that happen to include furry animals
undertale yellow is a parody of undertale that focuses on furbait
Considering how a lot of UT/DR are, I doubt anything was going to stop them
I don't really mind the focus on furry characters, it's the generation loss of the game being made by guys that played the game from the guy that played other games that bothers me, it doesn't take heed of the source material.
I guess you can say the same about Undertale too though, Earthbound was about surreal childhood experiences and american culture from the point of view of the japanese, while Undertale is a game about a game.
I have no idea what undertale yellow is and just randomly dropped into the thread but this image has old Ganker style soul, so I'll check it out.
It’s a fangame of Undertale that serves a a prequel, and you play as the Yellow Justice Soul, Clover, on his adventure to track down the 5 missing humans.
>wojaks
I didn't realize deltraveler is that well liked. I can almost appreciate it as a so bad it's funny kind of thing. Do people unironically think it's good?
>old Ganker style soul
Fricking tourist.
No, unless you are a kid or a troon. Autistic people and tourists have better taste than that.
did shoutingisfun draw this? that anon looks just like one of his.
Right is literally me
let's not pretend like the non-furry undertale characters aren't just there to keep normies from leaving.
i think smiley trashbag did that job a little too well
It's Rogue One for Undertale. Pretty cool in its own right but it stands on the shoulders of a giant.
It's good.
Undertale blows Yellow out of the water, writing wise, even mechanically too because a lot of Yellows fights consist of poorly designed patterns. Yellow does have higher fidelity sprite work, though.
Writing is all over the place and just isn't funny usually, the first couple areas especially are boring and don't fit with the rest of the game.
Bosses however are usually better because its designed with you not being a moron in mind
Presentation is better
Area puzzles are better
Music is like pretty good but not as good as Undertales
Brownie points: I don't think there's any significant gay or trans shit, also no pretentious meta narratives
And absolutely zero Gaster, Chara, Skeleton wank
This too, I also liked the Flowey content because he didn't feel off and Flowey was underutilized in Undertale
Bad.
I fricking HATE fangames and had a really good time with Yellow.
If Undertale was a 10/10 I'd maybe give Yellow an 8/10
Undertale isn't even good compared Deltarune.
The power level wankery in the UT that leads to 50 variation of Sans boss fight fan games is the only thing that's remotely interesting about it.
>MUHHHH EPISODIC OFFICIAL FAN FIC
Frick off Deltard.
If you say Deltarune is bad again it will hurt my feelings
Deltarune is mid
What're you gonna do? Cry? Shit yourself? Cum? Piss? All 4 at once??????
You'd like that, wouldn't you? Making guys shit, piss, and CUM? You wanna see or something? You wanna see cum, gayboy?
Well maybe if you weren't such a SMELLY PISS BOY GREMLIN you wouldn't be so liable to PISS yourself
Why would you be talking to SMELLY piss gremlins, huh? What's your motive here? You trying to take me home so I can piss all over your carpet? You fricking sicko. As well as completely ignoring the CUM allegations. Highly suspicious. We may never have confirmation of your perversions, but I think we all know what you really are
Oh don't cry Deltarune is fun, it's just not done yet.
And it never will be
It's very much fan fiction, the writing is generally worse than Undertale's and it fails to hit its emotional beats. No gay pandering though so there's that.
Genocide ending also somehow ends up being the good ending because the Pacifist ending is kind of fricked and was pretty obviously written and committed to when the writer was still a teen starting the project.
Better
It's a couple of steps down from Undertale, mainly for the writing, but it's a solid 7 out of 10 if Undertale is a 9 or a 10.
she was thorny and lonely
>somebody wrote an ao3 fic shipping that cactus girl with martlet
>it was porn
>look it up
>trans
into the trash it goes
I’m glad this game is full of furries instead of Skeleton OCs
Did they ever hint what she blocking off? Obviously she's there strictly for the joke, just feels weird to not even say what's behind her.
She was a fat b***h, that's the problem
They might have planned to add more areas at some point, but decided to cut it instead.
That's probably the answer, just strange there's nothing about it. With the cut lab section, it is fairly clear that it was cut. I can't say the same about this random bit in the desert. The only thing that indicates it was cut is the strange barrier cactus.
>the blocked off cave in snowdin
>the path in the desert
its entirely possible that the cave and cactus path were going to be the alternative to UT's dates, once you cleared the steamworks you'd have to go back and do something in those two areas.
Cant you go to Martlet's house after fast travelling from the dunes to snowdin? It feels weird that her house is never used (not counting that flashback)
you can, but all that you can find is her journal
Post your wives
What do you guys think about the idea of Clover being related to Integrity
No reason to think so and given that Clover already has enough on his plate would feel like it's trying to add to much. There is some neat ideas to be had with some of the souls being siblings.
I'd prefer if all kids are unrelated and fall down decades between each other
If they were all related, Asgore would have killed himself a long time ago because of this.
being asgore just fricking sucks in general
it's clear he's unhappy with his situation and while everyone else is celebrating each capture of a human soul, he and gerson talked a long time ago about how once they get out humans will just kill them all (or force them back down). he tries his hardest to delay it but sadly doesn't have the spine to tell toriel why the idea of "go to the surface and kill 6 humans to shatter the barrier" is fricking terrible
I wonder how long he kept his fire for. I'm sure he was still full of spite and anger for the 1st soul or 2 before he started to really hate it.
this is asgore we're talking about.
he probably stared at patience, with her hair ribbon, and was filled with regret before he even attacked.
>inversion of
No reason to think so and given that Clover already has enough on his plate would feel like it's trying to add to much. There is some neat ideas to be had with some of the souls being siblings.
>perseverance passively makes his way through the underground looking for his sister
>he's kind to everyone and nobody really wants to tell him that his sister is fricking dead.
>everyone just says "asgore knows"
>eventually gets to asgore
>"excuse me mr dreemurr? have you seen my sister."
>asgore stares for a moment. trying to mentally prepare himself to show this kid his sister's soul.
>he does it, kindness is now just sitting on the ground and staring at the blue soul.
>he falls over, the mental stress must have broke him.
>asgore try's to take the soul out
>its rapidly losing color
>before asgore can put the soul in a can, it loses all color and shatters.
>...
>almost as if integrity could sense her brother dying, her soul shatters while INSIDE OF THE CANISTER
>two souls down
>asgore is now one sad event away from dusting on the spot.
>Perseverance
>kindness
Is this the purple soul or the green one?
i wasnt thinking.
Easy enough to fix, I assume you meant it to be kindness over perseverance
it was supposed to be perseverance, but kindness works too.
my idea was that perseverance completely lost the will to move on seeing his sister, hence his soul losing color (he lost the ability to persevere).
works with kindness if you take the idea that he completely lost his ability to be kind, seeing the fruits of his labor before him in the form of a dead sister.
trash idea
Would Flowey's two favorite puppets get along?
How would Flowey skew things? Since these seem to be the only two people that he bothers to reveal himself to
Does this suffer from "it's cool but all the novelty that made it magical is gone since they just reuse a lot from the original" or is it fresh enough to offer something for non hardcore fans that just want to play more undertale?
the latter, it does almost entirely its own thing and it's a breath of fresh air that many liken to playing undertale for the first time again, or getting very very close otherwise
in either case it's free to play and free from reusing and ruining characters from undertale
It borrows from a lot from Undertale, but still feels distinct to be its own game instead of "you play through the game again but this time you're a different human"
Most noteably, it sparingly uses the characters from the original game, the only character from base UT who shows up outside of small moments is Flowey. The new characters do borrow ideas off of the original cast, but they all feel distinct enough from who they're a parallel to. Of them, Martlet is probably the most noticeably similar to who she's a stand-in for (a condensed version of Sans and Papyrus), but she still feels unique enough in her own way.
little by little I am going to claw my way through.
Eat the cup
Don't eat the cup
Are you godot anon or DRY anon?
Godot Anon
Yeah it is annoying. I'm redoing the whole menu because I finally figured out how themes work and buttons and focus groups and a lot of shit. So now I actually have a good shot at making the inventory system work decently. I won't bother doing multiple aspect ratios so at least I'm not dealing with that.
A trick I use for menus and dialogue boxes is that I have a method on the game manager that creates a viewport for them automatically. The gamemanager instantiates a scene composed of (Canvas Layer -> SubViewportContainer (with stretch on) -> Subviewport) And that subviewport gets the scene in question as a child, automatically putting it in the screen's aspect ratio.
>i need to know what this font specifically is
Undertale Mars Needs Cunnilingus
https://fontstruct.com/fontstructions/show/1798142/undertale-mars-needs-cunnilingus
...whats behind the menu?
Don't worry about it
can't you set the screen setting to pic related? that's what I did and the game maintains the ratio regardless of screen size
Yes, and it does work, I'm just commenting on the restructuring Godot may do if you leave the "aspect" stretch on any other option, as it will try to re-arrange the control nodes automatically.
Here are the settings for my project
I used canvas items instead of viewport as it makes building some scenes more easier for my case, I prefer the look like this while enabling integer scaling to force pixels into a 1x1 ratio
i need to know what this font specifically is
he's godot anon, probably. im DRYanon.
Mars Needs Cunnilingus. Seriously, that’s the name.
While that's hilarious, who the frick named these fonts?
the fact that i have to have a font called fricking "cunnilingus" in my project feels like a joke.
i'll never be able to look at this again without thinking of that stupid fricking word.
"mars needs cunnilingus" font
https://fonts2u.com/mars-needs-cunnilingus.font
fricking sweet
I'm learning about control nodes in Godot now, I just realized that making a basic menu like in Undertale is harder than making a basic platformer or a basic shoot em up, things scaling with resolution/fullscreen frick me up
You can have a fixed resolution by setting your game to viewport mode and just have it scale with your screen. For a game like Undertale, everything has a fixed resolution anyways
canvas item lets stuff like fonts scale with the window resolution, but it only scales it in multiples so increasing the window without reaching the multiple will just keep the game stuck on the center with black borders until it gets there
viewport lets the screen be any size but it wont scale fonts to higher resolution so if they are blurry smaller they will be blurry when bigger too
She's a thirsty little cactus
>chujin ketsukane
>inspired by japanese everything basically (except his coat which is chinese)
>builds a powerful robot called axis to impress the bergentrückung (german for mountain king)
What did the Yellow devs mean by this
they meant the axis did nothing wrong
He was just following orders
said orders were correct
Does this look like "apprehend" to you? Axis has been shown to find loopholes in his orders to do what he wants.
good, axis knew the rules, he knew to never relax
TND (total ningen death)
the subject was failing to comply with apprehension, euthanization was the only way to safely eliminate the threat and prevent further monster casualties. resisting capture in such a way that can cause harm to monsters in the immediate area permitted the use of lethal force.
Her head got blasted off
He knows how to find loopholes in his programming just so he can kill Clover. Why would you trust his words?
i told some random darkener to peel off his skin because there were nanomachines under it and he actually did it lmfao
i don't think clover is a very good friend
Wish an Undertale fan game would have it so once you "solve" the pacifist battle for that enemy you wont fight them any more. It's not fun doing the same act sequence over and over.
On one hand, i get that they want there to be frequent threats to get you to use your resources, on the other it's tedious as hell when the enemy variety isn't that great
Why would you need to use any resources outside of boss battles in UT?
Undertale, and no "Undertale-like", and no MOTHER-like either while we're at it, will ever match up to MOTHER because the creatives behind it are too narrow, too video game-centric, and without a fully formed worldview.
There's a reason why every reference in UT games is to either other video games or anime.
>he doesn't know
Wouldn't it be funny if you tried to frick her and her pussy was full of thorns haha
If Clover came back to life would you prefer if he came back as a monster or a human as before?
as a human, unless its a story that expands on this idea
>frisk must pacify the angry mob of ex-humans
>frisk standing in defense of asriel
>patience was turned into an elemental with low magic generation, she cant do too much at once or else she'll literally burn out and die
>bravery was turned into a punching bag with legs, can no longer swing a punch but can take them really well.
>integrity was turned into a marble statue, very slow and can no longer dance.
>perseverance a clockwork machine that can only move at a set speed. and will ALWAYS move at that speed. has to take his legs off just to sleep.
>kindness has no passive magic generation and has to feed off of the happiness of others from time to time
>and clover into a puppet without the strength to do things himself aside from move around, cant even open a door. but he can shoot a gun.
>all six of them want to KILL that fricking goat/flower.
>acting will not work, the only way to get them to back off would be to force asriel to give them their real bodies back.
This makes me wonder what Chara’s monster form would be like.
>normal chara
chocolate golem
>geno chara
a living dagger.
I know frisk is a pacifist and knows about asriel's whole situation, but come on those bodies are so comedically hellish I refuse to believe Frisk wouldnt turn back to asriel after seeing them and ask him why the frick he did that
NEED!
CACTUSSY! ! !
Undertale Yellow really feels like a bunch of insanely talented artists trying to flex on a guy who doesn't know how to draw making an entire game on his own with just one artist friend to help him out, and they still ended up a bit inferior to the original game
>all dem different perspectives
>inferior to the original game
UT is nothing special, its entirely held up by people being overly emotional homosexuals who think puns are the peak of comedy.
Undertale has had more cultural relevance than anything that has come out from T.V. since it came out, although I will say the game gets hard carried by 3 things
>It not a traditional turn based RPG, but instead a bullet hell RPG, which no one had done before
>Toby Fox being a god tier musician
>Temmie selling her soul and her first born to the devil so the game at least looked half decent because Toby can't draw to save his life
Sure the writing is good and the whole talk thing is a pretty cool concept but let's not lie to ourselves, most people wouldn't have even given it a chance if it wasn't for those three things
The genocide route alone is half the reason why it became so popular, anon
Snas kicking your teeth in is pretty iconic. The fact the game gave you the option to be a world-ending made the entire story more impactful.
>It’s not a traditional turn based RPG, but instead a bullet hell RPG, which no one had done before
What is Knights in the Nightmare again?
>Knights in the Nightmare
nobody played it so the concept was still novel
Yeah look I just watched gameplay of it and I'm sure it's a perfectly fine game, but the video I watched only had 13k views anon, worse yet when I tried looking for a rom for it one of the links said it had been downloaded 13k times and the other said it was taken down by nintendo themselves, so while your right about UT not inventing the concept, no one knows that this game exists
It's one of those conceptually interesting yet ultimately mediocre games people fellate themselves over knowing (they haven't actually beat it) because it is niche
Well, at least now you can also rub it on the face of others as well.
all that + the character designs are actually genuinely decent
it's fricking insane how a lot of more "skilled" artists have actual shit taste on character design compared to Toby
these look so good
no they don't, homie. Look at that Dalv and Martlet. Starlo is also a downgrade.
Axis is untouched because he's perfect and Ceroba is fine but even then most of those aren't as "simple and charming" as most of Toby's and Temmie's designs, which is funny because a lot of them are ugly or fridge like on purpose
like, take a real look at Frisk's design. it's a mess in character design theory but its still cute as frick and simple.
https://x.com/FactUndertale/status/1418625708096561158?s=20
TORIEL IS NOT A FRIDGE
>cold
>contains milk
Behold, a fridge!
Oh shit I just realized why Frisk and Chara both have fricked up legs, it's because Toby was trying to do pic related, at last I truly see
The stars aligned for Undertale. Even Deltarune isn't a tenth as charming as it.
>redesigns
someone, post the stroke redesigns.
Flowey, Toriel and Clover are cute, but I question why they gave him Chara like elements. But man, it really looks like this artist hates the yellow cast because all the these design changes deliberately makes them look wonky and ugly. And not even in a charming way.
Ceroba, Flowey and Toriel are all decent
the rest is just
why
that is not the fricking image-
been a while since i saw the image swap bug. lets see...
huh
welp, im stumped.
guess you just picked the wrong image, anon.
pretty sure there's cases where it can swap the thumbnail as well.
that's not an image swap. Image swaps keep the thumbnail
junpei what are you doing here?
Jesus, what happened to Ceroba and specially Dalv?
Also, why is everyone wider?
YELLOW TOBY
HIRE THIS MAN
We need Juandice Toby
what the frick does this image fricking mean
It's a jojo reference, the connection being yellow (justice) eyes. I don't think it's meant to be any deeper than that
Why is Starlo having a stroke?
>melting starlo and axis
>minion martlet
>whatever the frick dalv is
no other redesign can beat this one
I see this often, and I can't get over how Ceroba has a permanent raised eye-brow expression
>Axis is entirely unchanged save for the shading
This is because he is already perfect
Integrity deserved it tbh
All the human kids deserved what's coming to them
kindness?
Shouldn't have been such a gullible little shit-
That'd be a nice way to present kindness and make a game out of him at least.
>Kindness is so naive that he can't help but be friends with everyone.
>The player has no agency to the point where Kindness is just assassinated by an opportunist.
>Starting a new game makes Kindness aware of the fact all his friends can and will at a moment's notice stick a knife in his back. There is no hope. He cannot change anything.
Beware the rage of a gentle man
>spoiler
this could be a decent way to do a kindness genocide actually.
you HAVE to do pacifist first, its the only way to make kindness realize that if he wants to survive, he'll have to learn to fight.
chujin please come back to bed its nearly 5 am
I'll also be fair, Undertale inherited Homestuck's gigantic fandom. It always had a massive advantage.
Ceroba watching other people frick her husband
Ceroba letting Starlo watch as she fricks her husband (with her futa wiener)
>JAB JAB JAB JAB GET SOUL AIDS GET SOUL AIDS GET SOUL AIDS GET SOUL AIDS
What did Ceroba mean by this?
What a nice pal, flowey looks like he's setting up a carnival for Clover
Can I just say that Clover turning into a puppet is inferior to turning into a lizard monster
Puppet Clover is a metaphor
human > Lizard > Fox/bird > Puppet
But I do like the puppet aesthetic
This is the only animal-based monster Clover design that I like so far
It's my favorite, tho nothing against the bird that was drawn a while ago
this is what cole wishes he was
deep down he hates being ningen
So he wants to be a toriningen instead?
Imagine Cole finally breaking down about hating his own humanity during one of Chujin's rants and causing him to finally feel the slightest bit of empathy
No.
>deep down he hates being ningen
Fricking lame, that's already Kris's thing and Cole cares not about being human or monster.
He only cares about being a cowboy.
Considering that Frisk, probably the most "determined" being in existence can't do shit for themselves.
I'd say shooting magic bullets and dodging is pretty good considering he must around 12 or something
human > puppet > fox/bird >>>> literal shit >>>> anything else
>liking le ebin spam tong reference
puppet =/= spamton reference.
try again moron
it was never a spamton reference anon.
It was always about not making him a furry.
Every bastard that makes their "monster" OC just makes a furry and think themselves smart.
The possibility with monsters are literally endless and they just put animals on two legs.
it feels like it's overcompensating in the other direction because you have a hateboner for furries though anon, and just feels like a bad aping of geno/red from everhood
the whole 'different forms depending on who touches him' thing is way too busy especially for such a simple little guy like clover as well
nah I think everyone generally forgot about that.
I wrote the thing about the marionette controller on his back, sure it kinda literally made him spamton but it also worked as an analogy for the lack of control he had over his own story.
I don't why some anon decided that the person that touches makes Clover transform into an imitation but it was a somewhat interesting idea to entertain, even if it was dumb.
Miss Ceroba, I've come here to ask your dear daughter's paw in marriage.
>It's been a few years, Kanako and Clover having a great time
>Clover decides it's time, goes to ask for Ceroba's permission
>Apparently monsterkind has a very strict courting ritual, especially with boss monsters
>By immediately asking the parent, Clover has committed a horrible faux pas
>Ceroba forces him to go through all of the steps
>"alright next up is the magic aptitude test - potential partners must have their magical strength tested"
>"uhhhh mom"
>"not now sweetie, we are going to test how good clover is with magic"
>"mom"
>"kanako, in a m-"
>"MOM"
>"WHAT?"
>"clover's a human, he cant perform magic."
>ceroba just stares like an NPC
>"but we still need to test him"
>"test what, exactly?"
>ceroba keeps staring, like a computer thats struggling to process something.
>clover swears that he can hear faint dialup sounds coming from ceroba.
Cant clover shoot bullets and dash with his soul? That has to count as magic right?
soul powers probably dont count as monster magic.
>Clover is currently preparing trying to make a fireball per Ceroba's direction
>Meanwhile, Ceroba is tearing through all of Chujin's books
>Surely across all of monsterkind, this has to have happened before
>She passes by several types of books she wouldn't think he'd have... nor want to have
>Better just forget about those for now
>Finally she finds it, Monster Courtship for Dummies
>the most clover could manage to conjure was a few ashes
>meanwhile ceroba's flipping through the book
>"chapter 298: human companionship"
>there we go
>"in the event that you fall in love with a human, most courtship performances are useless due to a human's innate inability to perform magic."
>"please see chapter 298.B for the human courtship procedure"
>"note: forcing a human to try and perform magic could result in serious diseases such as: soul rot, mental warp, dementia..."
>ceroba stops reading the passage there, looking back at clover...
>eh, he looks fine. passed out, but fine.
psst. buddy.. humans can use magic.. they made the barrier with it.. buddy..? you there?
It’s really just that Clover SUCKS BALLS at magic.
i'm going back in time and jumping into the underground just so that i can be the one to help ceroba out of that ditch, fixing literally everything
but then you'd have to deal with chujin. he'd be able to see that SOMEONE was in the hole he made and follow the footprints back to you.
Oh I can deal with him alright 🙂
now we're talking. travel back in time to save ceroba from meeting chujin, tell starlo to be upfront with her, and then wait in the hole to make chujin fall in love with you instead. now clover only ever runs into happy families in the underground.
sorry but i only want roba
chujin would be fine if he didn't have stupid purple hair
The reason Ceroba goes full moron on occasion is Chujin mindbroke her so hard her IQ drops 80 points when thinking about him.
What the frick is this shit
oh no, someone's playing Deltatraveler!
This is fricking stupid
CogDis handled this so much better.
I’m tapping out now. This is too stupid even for me.
Next chapter is absolute cringe kino
Don't worry Anon, you get to kill Link, Mario & Luigi, and Mickey Mouse by the end of the fangame.
It gets worse.
Welcomes to Hell, sunshine.
Most Kino thing since Undertale Green
CATHARTICtale
These screenshots hurt extra hard to look at now that I'm currently playing Earthbound. What the frick were the Deltasmelly gays thinking with this section? The enemies in Earthbound are either a part of Giygas's evil army to take over Earth or wild savage animals. It even explains ingame why you end up beating the shit out of humans since they're possessed by Giygas's influence on their internal vices to attack you. And the happy happy cult weren't anything like the silly autistic monsters that say hello in Moar Dakka-nese; they fully intended on child sacrifice and the leader of the cult tried to electrocute a kid for shits and giggles, knowing full well of what they were doing and why it was bad. Did they not even read a fricking wiki on this game? Christ.
The idiot that made it probably never even played it, like a majority of Earthbound fans.
In the age of piracy AND NSO, there is no excuse for not playing that right now. And if these devs bothered to be faithful to either Undertale or Earthbound, the entire section would revolve around the juxtaposition of Undertale's rules (Deltatraveler was never a deltarune game, honestly) in comparison to traditional RPGs that fully expect the basic instincts of a player in an RPG, where defeating enemies and getting stronger is the norm. The deconstruction coming face-to-face with the construction and all the weirdness that ensues. Instead we just have weird moral homosexualry where (You) the player is "le ebil cereal murdler" and has complete control over all the characters that hate your awful deeds except when you don't. I refuse to touch the gasterwankery in my rant though. I dont know what theyre doing but its certainly cringe as frick.
They're just writing what their headcanon is for deltarune in a smug way
>When Kris started to show his eye and he started having talking lines
It was okay I guess but that really killed it for me
Same, thought I could power through the underangst but I had to look away for that one
Personally I was okay with it so long as they kept it as a soulless kris thing to signify we arent restraining him anymore.
Then he kept it when he put us back and that sealed it being awful
Their*
those homosexuals at reddit and youtube are so fricking annoying with this bullshit
Kris is a boy and will score mad dinosaur/horsething girl poon and marry and have lots of monster babies
Wrong
Asriel will comeback and cuck his sibling, making everyone in the fandom mad at the same time
No, he will try his best to wingman his little brother with no hope of success
Obviously he’s a boy. He wouldn’t share a room with Asriel if he was a girl.
and burgerpants and bratty wouldn't act the way they do if kris was a girl
In a shocking twist Berdley manages to cuck everyone at the same time
I remember looking at the Reddit to see if they had all the Valentine cards and the top pinned post is a reminder to use they/them for Kris. I fricking hate idpol so much, I miss the days when you could misgender characters and you'd just have some autists yell at you but that's it, no state mandated bullshit
Toby is to blame for their homosexualry.
would have been "fine" (as fine as DT can do it) if it happened in the last third of the game but not before the halfway point
imagine...
>gang gets to earthbound
>spares first group of enemies
>a bystander asks what they're doing
>"uh, sparing them?"
>"why'd you do that?! they were trying to kill me!"
>susie looks back to the enemies
>"i mean they dont look too dangerous..."
>"ah whatever, screw you guys!"
>soon after find out that enemies are being controlled
>"noelle learned: control buster."
>future encounters involve building TP to use control buster to break giygas's control, and then calming down the now freaking out enemies
>obliteration has you kill a few people that control breaker does not need to be used on, which triggers the obliteration fight.
I mean you dont even need a special move to do that, EarthBound literally states that kicking someone's ass breaks Giygas' influence over them. Carpainter actually breaks down over what he did when you beat him despite the mani-mani statue being right behind him. That's part of the reason obliteration is trash, it just suddenly decided 0 HP in EarthBound equals Death rather than turning tame
Please understand
The developers are suffering from a severe mental illness called “Being an Undertale fan”
Jokes aside, it makes me appreciate Yellow a lot more. Even if I think this games writing is weak, I have to remember that this is the second best you’re gonna get behind Toby himself.
Come to think of it, is there anything close to a "tryhard edgy" moment in Yellow?
I can't really pull something up off my memory, the closest I can think of is how killing Decibat has the text say "sweet silence", but thats really not that big of an offender, and plus it actually ties into the character.
Laughing at trihecta after splitting them up and killing one
Edgy things?
>Integrity gets her face blown off
>clover is going on a racially motivated killing spree, basically
>Ceroba’s backstory
Nah, none of this is edgy like how Deltatravler is edgy. Yellow devs do a good job not trauma dumping on the player base.
They were huge earthbound fans, but making the chapter is the closest they've ever gotten to playing it
lead dev is a own-fart-smeller type of gay surrounded with yes-men who don't want to dare say anything
>surrounded with yes-men who don't want to dare say anything
ironic since they're making a toontown chapter
Undertale and its consequences have been a disaster for the gaming community. Hundreds of thousands of children have been brainwashed into thinking violence of any kind is immoral, and when they grow up, they make garbage like this.
Undertale’s message is totally lost on most fans. Their takeaway is just the shock value of seeing people die.
im looking forward to the LOZ chapter for this reason.
you can bullshit your way through giygas's army and trick people who havent played earthbound, yes.
but how the hell are you going to bullshit your way through a fricking moblin? a literal mindless demon. irredeemable. anyone can see it, its pretty implied in the appearance.
actually no, a beamos.
a fricking statue with no brain, just a laser eye. HOW will they try to justify sparing that?
I'm going to lose it if they really go
>killing octoroks...is le bad!!
because if they do that then what fricking leg would Link be able to stand on in the inevitable edgy genocide battle against him for killing all the poor innocent monsters in ganon's demon army? Really, how? I wouldn't know to laugh or get pissed in that scenario
Yeah like, bare fricking minimum, you dont kill EarthBound because most enemies are under an evil influence rather than outright bad, just look at how much Everdread did for Ness once he was freed despite aiding in Paula's kidnapping, and in the creator's dumbfrick version of underfell at least most of the monsters lose their "red mist" or whatever when you attack them enough. Those COULD have worked to make you think killing them outright is bad.
Link to the Past enemies? There's literally no way to do that, they're all creatures born from darkness and evil and outright part of DEMON KING GANON'S ARMY. You cannot tell me I am evil for wiping out every single one of them when their sole purpose in life is to sow chaos and destruction among the innocent
Best I can imagine is that you include non-ganon related enemies. Wouldn't be a terrible stretch that locals confuse susie or noelle as ganon monsters, prompting a fight.
i've only seen bits of deltatraveller (by choice because i don't like what i've seen) and know less abt earthbound because i only played up until i got stuck in some cave, so correct me if i'm wrong... but i feel like they could have easily fixed chapter 2 eradication by making it so that the party is aware of giygas's influence on the people, but misunderstand it until the earthbound kids find a dying person broken free of his influence and conclude that you must have done it because YOU are possessed by giygas? i feel like eradication should keep up the veil for susie and noelle being clueless or having excuses for not thinking they're murderers as long as possible
>the leader of the cult tried to electrocute a kid for shits and giggles
You wanna know what makes that part worse?
In Earthbound, it just knocks Ness out and he wakes up outside if he doesn't have the franklin badge.
But in Deltatraveler? IT FRICKING KILLS YOU.
They made him MORE murderous than in the source material and tried to guilt trip you for killing him. What the frick is this shit
To add onto this, in EarthBound he says "I'll end your pitiful GAME"
In Deltatraveler, he says he'll end your pitiful "LIFE"
You cant make this shit up
And I've mentioned this multiple times already, but the whole premise of "spare the monsters they're not evil!" is that the random encounters aren't trying to kill you, and that their bullet patterns are just a unique monster way of saying hi. It's stupid and doesn't excuse how they don't stop when you're clearly hurt, but it's at least SOMETHING.
But Earthbound doesn't have monsters. They're a unique Undertale concept.
All the enemies, whether they're the sprouts or fully grown human cultists, are NOT using magic greeting bullet patterns. The bullet dodging segments are far more likely to just be non-diegetic abstractions of them actually attacking and trying to kill you. Meaning they're not just saying hi, they're actively trying to murder you.
It's fricking stupid to act like the cultists are just goofy goobers who want to paint you blue and nothing else. (also the fact they were going to sacrifice a child to Blue Satan or something)
>(also the fact they were going to sacrifice a child to Blue Satan or something)
Getting really technical as someone who's playing through the game again right now, Monotoli confirms that those under Giygas' influence can recieve direct orders from him, so he likely told them to sacrifice Paula specifically because she's one of the chosen four and the second most important member of it before Ness. They were literally sacrificing her in his name. I think the only reason she's alive is because one npc in happy happy village mentions Carpainter wanting a High Priestess, which could mean he attempted to convert her before going through with the sacrifice. It'd line up with Everdread thinking she might already be dead when you first talk to him but that obviously not being the case, or hell even Carpainter very slightly fighting off his influence to buy her minutes more of her life since he's instantly regretful after losing
It's fundamentally the problem of trying to bring Undertales mercy and attack system into stories and worlds not built around it. For fricks sake, even deltarune gave up on it because it just doesn't fit the story.
Isn't that the point. The game is based off the stupid "where the frick are we kris", I just assumed the killing things in these other worlds was meant to be cringe. Idk I didn't mind it I guess
the problem is that its played completely unironically.
I feel like if it was the game wouldnt be making a genuine attempt to make you feel bad about it or stop you from making it "too" edgy. It would play it completely straight and have Susie do the "Lets start Killing some Monsters" thing instead if being cringe was the point
i want to frick chujin so bad
I want to kiss and hug and cuddle and bully and bite him
I hope the bar for fangames keeps getting raised and people realize Deltatraveler sucks
Nope. People keep sucking off RynoGG outside of here. It’s only going to get worse.
>and people realize Deltatraveler sucks
sorry, you need approval from the mob to say it sucks without getting dogpiled. the only ways to get approval of the mob are:
>wait for a random e-celeb to criticize it
>wait for the creator to have a no-no opinion
>wait for the creator to be exposed as a pedophile
Sorry, hardcore Nutdealer fans need to keep their delusions validated at all times. A constant stream of copium.
Prease Undastand
>wait for the creator to be exposed as a pedophile
unironically very likely to happen
Is it really that hard to create fandom content and NOT be a pedophile?
I didn't realize deltraveler is that well liked. I can almost appreciate it as a so bad it's funny kind of thing. Do people unironically think it's good?
>unironically
unfortunately yes, people ARE that moronic.
Yes, completely unironically. Go look at the comment sections for any obliteration-exclusive ost on youtube for example, either ryno is outright deleting any comment that's negative (Which is possible but I have no proof) or all of them eat up all the slop put in front of them
As long as children are allowed to be on the internet, it will continue to be unironically liked.
is that sans undertales
sans underfells*
It's sans underfells, (formerly deltafells)
The only idea I’ve ever liked about Underfell is the idea that the main monster gang join BACA after the good ending.
I thought section 1 was mostly pretty good
Sorry sweety but having negative opinions and valid criticism is toxic behaviour, and we wont tolerate it in this wholesome community
How do monsters have sex? In fact how would would a human and monster even do it?
This isn't specified and left as an exercise for anon
Toby is never going to come anywhere close to touching that subject so the answer is to follow your dick's heart.
i thought it was Earthbound
it's underdogshit.
How bad is Deltatraveler all I hear about is the jerry fight
Writing? Dog shit, pacifist is just cringe but genocide/obliteration is at least cringekino and good for a few laughs from how bad it is
Art? Eh, when its not pretty much ripping assets it looks fine.
Gameplay? Actually pretty fricking good, it's at least on par with actual Deltarune and genocide encounters dont end in one turn
Gameplay wise it’s fine
The music varies between good and not
The art is fine
The story is so unbelievably bad that’s it’s amazing and the longer you play the worse it gets
I havent played it
If you ask on reddit they'll tell you that its the best fangame ever and that it has amazing writting with extremely funny moments
If you ask here they'll tell you how the game is basically one of those "I remember your genocides" memes but with zero self awarness and overall cringe and smug writting
been a while and i can use a break from writing so, anyone have any simple requests i can doodle?
More dress Chujin please
hope u rike
optional fox deployed
ballin
yeah i have the whole thing planned out, i've just been enjoying writing return to form more currently
>hope you rike
I rove. Thank you so much
that fox is COMPLETELY out of it.
the only thing bouncing around that head of hers is the idea of needing more scratches.
Would any UTY tracks go well as Space Jam remixes?
Trial by Jam
It's great to see your art again but...
>Zenith Martlet no longer bottomless
she finally got some pants tailored for her
Why doesn't Martlet get any scritches?
Martlet is doomed to end up miserable
It’s so unfair, she deserves the world
I no longer wish to be horny
I just want people to draw Martlet being happy
Martlet or Zenith Martlet?
Or Both?
It would weird to get them from your adopted son
Birds preen
Omg. Your the one who wrote "Return to Form" and "A change in Perspective".
Your doing amazing stuff with those stories.
I enjoyed reading every chapter.
And have always been looking forward to what happens in both of them.
The Zenith Martlet fic and the Clover/Kanako fic.
Both have been equally awesome to read.
I've had a good laugh reading the funny bits.
I.e Zenith Martlet still yet to realize she's nude. and other characters noticing but not saying anything.
And invested in the more serious elements.
Keep up the good work!
Surprised you haven't made some doodles related to your fics.
You have lots to draw from.
Either way, you've been doing awesome stuff!
Looking forward to more!
IMPREGNATE
CHUJIN
clover/cole giving kanako headrubs.
kanako getting a little too into it.
zartlet slam dunking clover like a basketball
Cole resting on a couch/hammock. Fox is optional
martlet destroying/losing her clothes after safety-testing a puzzle she was making
as an extra, add an impressed/confused papyrus there saying that she made some sort of clothes disintegrator as part of her puzzle
Not sure if this falls under too simple, but the bat mentioned in this green
i wanna see something ala pic related with cole/clover rambling about guns to kanako, based on
seconding
I don't have a request but I'm glad to see you're still around 🙂
Kanako powerlifting
Ceroba showing off her paw feet.
I'm desperate, man!
Pink or black?
honestly my favorite pic of her
ceroba and clover posted up like this
RtF Kanako wearing that fricking Mettaton shirt
>that fricking Mettaton shirt
what?
I'd assume a shirt with mettaton's face on it?
I only just realized what RtF means, it's from a fanfic by the drawanon is writing i think
you wrote the change in perspective fic as well right? if so, i hope you continue it, its great
Clover or Kanaklover with a revolver that has the Hero Pearl grip.
I ain't draw anon, nor do I know the Hero Pearl grip
Oh, sorry. I was just playing RDR2 recently.
Zenith martlet hugging clover saying its okay
Ceroba joins a support group for vidya fox girls.
Clover insisting Martlet and monsters eat babies
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Zenith Martlet looking at her body. taking in her new assets weighing in the good and bad.
Your desert lizard clover from return to form
They are still fricking making these?
How much more do I have if I just got to the Wild East?
Basically just that and the Hotland/Core equivalent left.
>Just got to the Wild East
Probably about another 25% or so
Star is a funny guy.
He's also the 2nd most misused character in the game
Look, I get why they wanted you to feel bad about killing the snake out of all things, it's because that's where Earthbound teaches you about insta-win encounters that only happen when your just too high level for the enemy to fight back, but it's just not worth it, it's just silly to see a snake bleed out like Sans undertale and for it to die that dramatically, seriously they should have waited for the whole blood thing to come out at around the cultist or better yet, at around the time your trying to kill literal children, I simply can't take seriously Ness's bloated corpse laying on the ground when I know a shitty snake got the same treatment
What should I NOT do if I tried making a fangame?
Undertale is about silly animals and shitty jokes 85% of the time, that's what makes the serious parts and the meta commentary thing more impactful
Just don't include the skeletons. That well is poisoned beyond all hope.
gratuitous blood and swearing, it won't make your game "mature", it will just make you look like an edgy loser
blood and swearing have more impact if they are rarely used and timed right in the story
>Radiation’s Halloween Hack
That was developed when Toby was a teenager.
can i be honest?
i think all the resprites that make dalv ugly are good. i fricking hate his adventure time looking ass and him being hideous would make his whole character make more sense.
I don't know if I'd call them good. I'm too indifferent to Dalv to really care. I find his design generally okay, but don't care nor mind most redesigns
Guys the government doesn't want you to know this but the buildgays are free
They don't know how to fight without the Q button it's so easy
DRY anon here.
the inventory system is giving me some shit, ive figured it out but it probably wont be ready tonight.
To a layman, why is a menu as challenging as you and others have described it? I know I won't ever make a game, but I'd like to know more about its struggles
for me specifically its just boring to do the inital setup of core systems and not work on actually making the content.
but if its your first time setting something like an inventory up none of the tutorials on youtube are actually useful because they try to be "generic and flexible" but dont tell you how to expand out from there...
that or they take multiple hours across 10+ videos to get to the damn point.
There’s a good reason why musicians make better devs than artards
unfortunately i am neither of those things.
Layers upon layers upon layers of variables and scripts, it gets hard to keep track of everything and reconcile those stupid fricking arrays on your screen with the actual inventory that will be shown to the player
God help you once you want to start making those things in your inventory actually start interacting with other elements and systems in the game
Synthesizing good user experience, rendering the graphics themselves in the right places, storing and reading item data, and having all of these properly interact with player-related systems was why I personally found making an inventory system challenging
it's mostly boring cuz of the amount of variables you have to set up behind the scenes before you even see any small visual progress
imo the hardest part to replicate from the DR/UT system was the shop, that thing has a ton of small things that all add together to make it more complex than it seems
alright so ive got it working on an EXTREMELY basic (see: effectively just visual) level.
>cole's inventory starts with the decent hat (the armor spot on the menu UI starts with 'NONE')
>game runs
>hat is "equipped" at run time
>defense and armor updated
in short: the idea of an inventory system is there in the code.
i'll just need to expand on it tomorrow because right now im too tired to code anymore.
>DRY
>In Eastwood, Cole and Kanako have been handling the fountains as they come
>They never found their “Prince from the Dark” like the prophecy said they should
>They’ve managed all the same, able to close excess fountains
>All that changes when they go with Uncle Starlo on his rodeo tour to Hometown
>Cole comes as an actor in the performance, Kanako goes to support Star and Cole
>It attracts a fairly large crowd
> A fountain is opened in their prop shack, Cole and Kanako naturally find it while cleaning up
>They’ve dealt with many, this won’t be any different
>Kris and Susie find it on the course of exploring the rodeo that’s visiting their town
>the justice gimmick where cole can read into a darkner's past and determine if its guilty or not
>"DUDE WHAT THE HELL?"
>susie, kris, and ralsei run up to the duo after watching them (actually) kill a darkner
>"susie, let me talk for a moment. are you two also lightners?"
>"yeah, just closing another dark world. had a few of you guys call us that before... oh hey cole, its that human you were talking about"
>"oh... well, this is a world where nobody has to die! im sure if you were to give ACT-"
>"nah shut up fluffy boy, what the HELL do you think you're doing? that guy didnt do anything wrong, and you just killed him!"
>cole and kanako stare at each other for a moment, confused
>"uh... actually he did a lot"
>"oh and WHO made you the judge of that?"
>"im not, but cole is. he can read a darkner's crimes. that guy we just killed was responsible for a murder spree against other darkners and wanted to do it again"
>kris and susie are actually taken back out of shock while ralsei looks a little distressed
>"YOU CAN DO THAT?"
>"your human cant?"
>"dude thats so cool, kris why didnt you tell me that humans can do stuff like this?"
>* i am just as surprised as you are
>"... alright look, how can we trust you?"
>"like this"
>cole reads ralsei
>the two lock eyes for a moment
>ralsei is stressed as frick and cole is considering revealing his whole plot against kris's soul
>reading a little more, he sees that kris's soul is not his and ralsei just wants to help him out
>"... ralsei is perfectly innocent, in fact all he wants to do is help out his friends"
>kris looks a little reassured, ralsei lets out a deep breath
>"w-well... im not sure if i can condone what you two are doing. but at the same time if i run the risk of inviting dangerous criminals into my kingdom..."
>"alright listen, we can hang back a bit while those two judge darkners. then we can recruit the ones that are nice."
>kris and ralsei agree while cole and kanako go on ahead
1/2
2/2
>kanako and cole are a decent bit ahead of the fun gang
>"alright so cole that human you were t-"
>"stay away from him."
>"huh? whats wrong."
>"i couldnt read him. but i could feel an ominous violence coming from him"
>"..."
>"also, when i read ralsei. his soul is not his own"
>kanako looks disturbed now
>"look, if we get split up, susie's and ralsei are fine. but DONT end up alone with him. or on the other side of his blade. if you end up fighting him, call it off and run."
I kind of like thinking of Kanako as Enma.
i do not know who enma is.
Big ogre who judges dead souls.
She's got the club and everything.
>Kanako trusts Cole’s judgment
>She is unfortunately paired with Kris after a split as they proceed to the fountain
>Normal route has her tentatively working with Kris, constantly suggesting to reconnect with the others, but accepts he seems on the level.
>Weird route has her quickly abandon Kris following a handful of decisions, leaving him alone to fight this darkworld until near the end
>Cole and Susie/Ralsie are uneventful, an all business and no fun group
>The ending reunion depends on the route
>The ending reunion depends on the route
>on normal, kanako tells cole that nothing bad happened.
>he's relived, but cant help but give kris a few shifty looks that are met with confusion.
>on weird, kanako's out of breath after running to catch up.
>she's on the verge of breaking down
>babbles on about how he wanted her to use the execution skill on everybody.
>ralsei looks disappointed, susie enraged, and cole just wants to hug her to make her feel better.
>cole closes the fountain before kris can catch up
>kris wakes up
>susie and kanako have already left the room
>but cole is still there.
>"i dont care about what you've got going on with 'your' soul, understand?"
>kris gets up
>"me and kanako dont play the 'friends with everybody' game. we enact justice, then be friends with those who are good."
>the soul makes kris go to lunge, shit.
>"now im sure that you have your reasoning. 'the soul forces me to do it', right?"
>cole kicks kris down
>"but assuming you dont agree with yours, you didnt even try to stop it. even now, you did nothing"
>cole gets down close to kris
>"there's another human in my home town. she tries to fight me, the same as you. she never wins."
>he looks at a crack in the shed
>"do you want to know why? because the two of you prey on monsters, and im used to fighting a human. but im not looking for a fight tonight, its late. "
>cole gets up and goes to leave
>"if we ever come back here... well, its been a while since ive thrown a good punch, 'hero'."
>cole leaves the shed, leaving kris alone with dread over the idea that he'll be back and the soul wont change in time.
Thank you, a good conclusion in my books
>both kanako and kris are on a weird route
>kris goes to tell kanako to use her execution skill.
>before he can even point she uses [furious homerun] to kill a darkner
>the two go on, kris freaked out because he's got a genuine killer next to him and a murderous soul controling him
>she exhaust's the area's enemies
>"you just want to use me as a tool, dont you?"
>kanako turns to face kris with a broken look in her eyes
>"you didnt even attack once. but you were more than fine with telling me what to do."
>[ost - avatar beat] starts to play
>"yeah, thats all you want, turn me into a tool and take me away from cole! just like everybody else!"
>most of the fight kris is on the defensive. he actually has to physically dodge to keep kanako from landing a direct hit on his body.
>before kanako can land the killing blow, the fountain closes
>...
>"damn, those two look pretty beat up dont they cole?"
>"eh, that happens sometimes when i leave kanako alone in a dark world."
>"same... you can carry her home, right?"
>"yeah, you?"
>"yeah..."
>the two dont exchange many words because they both know what their friends tried to do to each other.
Thank you. I don't make good stories on my own.
>Cole and Kanako are already well on their way to the source before they hear of other lightners
>Run across the trio, Kris and Susie are recognized as Berdly’s friends
>Ralsie’s introduction in regards to Kris and Susie invoke an existential crisis in Cole and Kanako
>They were never the prophecy, were they? Just some random human monster pair that happened upon the fountains
>Cole doesn’t care, regardless of who is supposed to do the job, they have been, for nearly a dozen fountains they’ve enacted Justice
>Work together to close the fountain
Not sure where, but I’d expect a fight between the two groups. I couldn’t pick where so I just ignored the obvious hook.
>didn't make HELL glow
weak
figured out how to Ganker, turns out it's actually pretty easy with paint.net.
Autism go!
>Storyshift AU where Clover swaps places with Frisk (Frisk sacrifices themselves at the end of their journey, Clover comes by years later with the same motivation as UTY and ultimately corrects the worst injustice: The Barrier keeping everyone in an underground prison)
>Monster kid swaps with Kanako (Ceroba and Chujin are new arrivals to Snowdin, Chujin here was the royal scientist for a while but retired after finding a new passion in architecture and woodcrafting. Working as the royal scientist was draining and took away time from his family, so he has no regrets with his decision. Kanako wasn't around when Integrity was so he doesnt hold the same hatred towards humans)
>Mettaton switches places with Axis (Axis is an unintentional comedian and people love him for it. Chujins last project before foregoing science and considers Axis his own son more or less. Axis never killed a human here)
>Martlet swaps with Alphys. She's the royal scientist after Chujin retired and referenced her to Asgore. She's applied her enthusiasm for puzzles and rules to making cool new gadgets to help people. She's no Alphys or Gaster when it comes to making super devices but she's also not a screw-up like Alphys. No DT experiments happened under her, though she still has the old research of Chujins always in the back of her mind
>Starlo swaps with Undyne. He keeps his love of cowboys and Humans and has formed the "Royal Rangers" to act as the replacement for the royal guard. His original posse acts as RR peacekeepers for the Underground and Kanako hopes to be a cool ranger just like Starlo someday. Starlo basically acts as the sheriff for the whole underground and treats it like an actual job instead of an act he does on the side. Has never fought a human but thinks it would be really cool if he ever did. Also has actual Royal guard training and can fight very well if pushed hard enough, or if faced with a serial killer...
Ah yes, Yellowswap. Or something like that.
I imagine Ceroba didnt even get stuck on anything tougher than a square hole-type puzzle in there
Stuck in where? Take her deeper
welp i wanted them to hold you all safe
okay it's been long enough i can't keep quiet about my issues w this image... not even going to get into the starlo tail thing because thats a whole huge beast on its own but honestly i don't know why the swap concepts for yellow aus are always so... safe? i just like for the ones i've seen play way too close to the original and just run the risk of being "diet uty"
Lego Clover isn't real, he can't hurt you.
Lego Clover:
why does clover have a microwave for a head
damn martlet is swole
Damn.
Just finished it (pacifist run).
That was pretty good.
its good until you realize that it threw away everybody's character development because nobody actually made an effort to get clover to stop himself.
The best bit is when they dump his stuff in the junkyard. 10/10
Didn't birdbrained anon say another chapter was on the way a few days ago?
How would you feel if an Undertale fangame came out and it had skeleton monsters that weren’t related to Sans and Papyrus at all?
Depends on how well they're written.
It would be cool if skeelton monster actually turned out to be a ghost possessing a medical exhibit skeleton.
What if every monster was just a ghost in a body and only its revealed at the end.
as in they're all ghosts or the entire cast is actually a single ghost
The cast are individual ghosts inhabiting life like flesh bodies.
hm
for return to form should i have them linger in the underground a bit more an explore the abandoned wild east or just get on with it already and have them go to the surface?
Them exploring an abandoned wild west would be kino
Either or
What
says is true, but to avoid it feeling like a detour you should only explore stuff there if it'd help push your message and/or serve Clover or Kanako's characters going forward
Would you a withdrawal mooch, anons?
Does anyone have that image of that Ceroba SFM model someone made? The one that looks weird?
i could only find one
I'm getting a bad vibe from this pic.
Never trust SFM renders, there's a 50/50 chance of it being very degenerate smut or very degenerate shitposting
ngl i want to see a gmod artist try their hand at a render, pic related
no clue why it didn't post
That's in Gmod??
gmod + photoshop can go a long way
that's terrifying, it looks like boht of them have very impure and weird thoughts brewing. I don't like it
Unironically looks better than the one from the Toriel pic
needs some fur definition, hate when artists just make fur be painted skin
Nothing but sin behind those eyes. If you value your virginity, run very very far and very very fast.
It was on e621 but it seems that it got deleted?
It was just an edited Carmelita fox model anyways
you're*
The Roba getting drunk and crying
I haven't played Undertale, Deltarune, or Undertale Yellow yet I still follow these threads because Ceroba and Kanako are cute.
same. I'm just here for the anthro women.
Clover was canonically and officially BETRAYED by his friends and TRAPPED in the HYPERBOLIC SOUL CONTAINER for 1000000000 YEARS
Monstruokindg must payed... with they're are blood.... Clover will restart PolyStation Triple to being quest of bring the Juan Dice of the 5 huemens chile boys and commiting Gemoslide on the munsters.... Epic Rockstar of David's Grand Theft Horse Read Dead Revolver Retrivengance Manhunt Club LA Table Tennis Remix Online Styloer...
This is getting so abstract I can barely read it now
Why is Clover so Mexicano
There's a reason his full name is Clover Carlito Carlito Yellow...
>Clover was Mexican the whole time.
>The cowboy thing was cope, he wishes he was white
This is it brows. I'm going to drink an Adult Soda. Wish me luck.
Clover was BETRAYED and TRAPPED by his friends in the SOUL CONTAINER for 10 YEARS...
Monsterkind must pay... with their blood.. Clover will start a journey to bring justice to the 5 human children by committing genocide on the monsters... Epic Red Dead Redemption style...
You know something got me thinking , a few threads back DRYanon mentioned elemental pairs for his game.
And one of those pairs was Justice/Gun which undoubtedly meant for Cole.
So in DR, puppet items can grant up a 40% damage resistance against Cat AND Puppet attacks, but Cole fits both of his elements
Meaning that
>he's practically invulnerable and almost completely useless against someone of those elemental pairs
since the resistances probably go both ways.
I don't get the point of elemental stuff in DR
it feels like toby added it because other RPGs had it, but it is over complicated and will eat even more dev time than they are already spending, most players don't even understand how it works
chapter 1 was fine without it
>It will complicate things to have enemies do type X damage and make gear that makes you resist type X damage
Look I get coding RPGs is way more complicated and time consuming then it looks, but making an attack fire type and adding in resistances to the damage calculations isn't that complicated.
that's fine for damage types that the player can actually use/interact with, but stuff like puppet/cat and the other nonsense types that you probably wont ever get an attack for just add extra dev time just for flavor text, which would be fine if the team didn't just do like 1 work day per week
>that's fine for damage types that the player can actually use/interact with
>lists the one damage type the player can interact with so far
>Also demonstrates pooling which will complicate things even less
I think it's literally only there to add more theory fuel to the game down the line
It only has a couple applications, its mainly flavor text
Now if Deltarune turned into a monster collector/smt game partway through and it all mattered, then I could see why this game is taking forever
ITS BECAUSE CHRONO TRIGGER DID IT
Probably because he's trying to set up to kind of weird gimmick or special boss battle.
The pairs are pretty fricking random and there's probably a reason for that.
But anyway, here's something based around elemental pairs
>Cole finds another Justice/Gun users, some bandido vigilante looking to give people what they deserve
>Due to conflicting views on justice they find each other to be deserving of "retribution".
>They walk 10 paces and prepare to draw
>*Who will be the fast draw and who will be the fast dead?
>Both was the answer
>As the guns shoot in sync, time seems to stop
>The dualists can only observe as their opponent's bullet draws closer, and closer to their chest until...
> [1] Damage [1] Damage
>Both Cole and the lawbreaker stand in confusion but Lawbreaker snaps out it faster and empties their chamber on Cole
>[1] damage
>[1] damage
>[1] damage
>"Sticks and stones maybe your bones *But bullets don't affect you??"
>"A stitch in time saves nine *And leaving now saves me time. Bye"
Later on.
>The lawbreaker shows up again, dressed in a more militaristic fashion and now calling themselves the "LawSetter"
>They aim their gun at Cole,
>[1] damage
>*Another stalemated duel? Seems like you'll spent a few hours here
>"If it ain't broke *Then why isn't killing? Oh, forgot to switch the fire mode"
>A burst of bullets is shot at Cole, each only dealing [1] damage but amounting [7] damage
>"Death by a thousand *Bullets"
The battle would consist of increasing Cole damage over and over through buffs and just a general increase in intent to kill until he would start to beat the 99% damage reduction, your damage growing exponentially
The LawSetter would look visibly worried once you start dealing 100 damage because despite the average damage, it means that Cole is actually doing 9000 damage.
Kanako is unavailable for attacking, maybe she captured or maybe she's unable to attack because the boss is out melee's reach
YOU WANT TO
YOU WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT
[elemental/pairs]?
MOST [elemental/pairs] WILL NOT OFFER [great low rates] ON DAMAGE!
THEY WILL ALL INSTEAD [the playstation can produce mind boggling effects]
[justice] IS THE ELEMENT OF [just ice, please], IT OPENS THE ABILITY FOR COLE TO READ INTO AN ENEMY'S [heartShapedObject], SEE THEIR [law & order], AND DISH OUT APPROPRIATE [just ice, please]
[gun] ALLOW'S SEPARATE [bar brawl]S TO DEAL SEPARATE INSTANCES OF DAMAGE. ON ENEMIES IT WILL LOWER THE AMOUNT OF [airtime] YOU GET WHEN HIT
damn, ok those are cool ideas. And also really well used [BRACKET TALK], they got a chuckle out of me.
I wonder if Tobias Foxintong will also do something as interesting as this or leave the elemental pairs as only something meant for damage reduction.
there is the datamined sky mantle that protects against hole/electric, and seam said you cant beat a future boss without it
so there is that (people think save file manipulation will be necessary to get it)
Seam says you'll need the Shadow Mantle, not the Sky Mantle.
My bet is on needing to get the Sky Mantle from the church dark world in Chapter 5 and somehow bringing it back to Ch 4 and turn it into the Shadow Mantle. And that's why Toby is determined to release chapters 4 and 5 at the same time.
Considering the whole thing with secret boss items showing up at the Castle Town cliffs as long as you've beaten them in any save file prior and the Twisted Sword currently requires you to commit to an aborted Snowgrave, there's definitely going to be some cross-save frickery.
>and the Twisted Sword currently requires you to commit to an aborted Snowgrave
Actually that's just conjecture. You can't legitimately make the Twisted Sword yet. Noelle will obviously come back to the party, at which point the ring comes back with her, meaning you may not need to abort it.
That's why I said "currently", as in, based on the information we currently have.
For all we know your own assumption might be proven wrong if you fully committed to Snowgrave by icing Berdly, it's hard to tell what'll be in store with how little we understand the narrative and divergences.
if toby has the balls to make the snowgrave route mandatory for a good ending he'll get a whole new level of respect from me.
I have been calling that since before ch2 even came out, there's no fricking way he's going to pull the "You need to be ultimate good guy pacifist for best ending" shit again, we played Undertale we're expecting that already
You think Toby will go back on all his principles just to pull off le epic subversion?
Unironically yes, otherwise what's the fricking point? He's pushing the "no one has to get hurt" shit so hard with Ralsei it's pretty evident that will be put in question later, especially with violence being outright accepted in multiple causes already like the chapter bosses and schizo bosses
the point is player/protagonist separation
no, Undertale didn't really do that because Frisk is a non-entity, Kris very explicitly is not.
also, there's a MASSIVE fricking leap from "sometimes you'll have to use violence" to "psychologically abuse your friend and kill a classmate for trying to save her".
Like
said it can be an ends justify the means thing. Maybe Berdly simply HAS to die if you want to save more people. Or maybe he isnt even dead at all and just trapped in the closed off dark world, which while still fricked up would be an important distinction, he's being kept on the shelf for later
>it can be an ends justify the means thing
Again, you think Toby will do that? Just throw away everything he built upon in Undertale?
>doing the same message/gimmick twice would just be boring
That doesn't mean he has to do a 180°, dude. Especially when he calls Deltarune a game to play after Undertale.
>Just throw away everything he built upon in Undertale?
he already did it with the "your choices don't matter" and "one ending" thing, as well as pacifist vs fighting having almost no difference (at least in chapter 1, fighting in chapter 2 is just bad since you lose on recruits)
>he already did it with the "your choices don't matter" and "one ending" thing
Oh yeah, just like with "kill or be killed", right? come on
Fighting in ch 2 isn't even bad, so what if you lose on recruits, they don't help you in any critical way, they just sit around castle town.
>Yet
No way he has recruitment do nothing in later chapters
That may change come the next episode, hopefully.
>Again, you think Toby will do that? Just throw away everything he built upon in Undertale?
What the frick do you think no choices means? He's already done that by making killing darkners such an incredibly hard feat and doing his best to make your choices not matter. I dont remember having to go through so many hoops in UT to commit genocide beyond having some patience compared to the nonsense that is doing Snowgrave
>The good ending entails killing a classmate in cold blood
the ends justify the means
it would be a good subversion where in one timeline you have to kill someone for an item to use in a good timeline, so for the characters nothing changed but it weights on your mind as a player since you remember it
That doesn't really track coming from the same series that calls out the player for reloading a save to spare Toriel after killing her.
deltarune is not undertale
doing the same message/gimmick twice would just be boring and show toby can't write more than one type of story
deltarune already is pretty similar to the halloween hack though
You gotta remember that on a meta-narrative level, we've also been only allowed into Deltarune because of Gaster, the Schizo King himself, who is implied to be directly responsible for the state of utter insanity that the bonus bosses are in.
>game all about meta frickery
>we wont use meta frickery to break kris free from his fate
the point of deltarune is a test of how far we'll go as the player to break fate AND give kris his happy ending.
do you really think it'll be the same "spare everyone with no question and it becomes all smiles" story?
YES, this. How far are we willing to go to get a good ending for everyone? In the end will the end justify the means? I trust Toby can do a /good/ subversion, not a shitty one like people think.
Messing with save files does not mean you'll have to kill. Undertale did this too. Not killing anyone will still lead to Omega Flowey and a Neutral end. Only AFTER that does Flowey set the true ending in motion. In this case, Gaster will likely be the one to nudge you to mess with the files. But not kill, that's moronic.
>Messing with save files does not mean you'll have to kill.
exactly, we wont kill... on the good save file.
but that twisted sword still has "trance down", we'll need to get it on a good save at some point. which requires the thorn ring.
The ends justify the means. So what if you killed someone in a failed timeline as long as it helps the good timeline along.
It's just berdly, it'll be fine
Berdly has literally 0 value to society, killing him is a net positive for everyone AND makes Noelle man the frick up
>WAS determined to release chapters 4 and 5 at the same time
It did seam weird to me that he wanted to release 3,4 and 5 together rather than individually as they were done. Granted he's already gone back on including 5 in the bundle and I think it's a matter of time until 4 is also separated.
I always figured it was because he wants the game to cost money when he releases more chapters and just releasing the one chapter would feel like a rip off. If he really does release 3 on it's own I wonder if he'll go back on it at all, especially since 3 is meant to be filler and not as story important as 4 and 5
>protects against hole
What characters do we think are weak to hole attacks, Ganker?
larry type enemies.
they can easily be pushed into a hole
Do you think that one day we can play all 7 Undertales at the same time?
Undertale 7
GRAND DAD?
Clover's best friend is always there for him
uh
erm
imagine DRY kanako
now imagine her fat.
now imagine cole smugly saying "told you so" while she's completely exhausted in the overworld after clearing a dark world
>cole and kanako just closed their first dark fountain
>kanako dropped out of baseball a few years ago and let herself go, intentionally
>she's completely exhausted
>"so, about your 'wanting to indulge in personal i-"
>"oh my god cole, just shut up"
>"look im just saying that if you didnt, you wouldnt be still catching your breath 15 minute later"
>...
>"birdsuit"
>"well now cmon thats not fair, unlike your 'interest' i can actually take it off."
>"i'll tell martlet."
>...
>"point taken. want help getting up?"
>"please"
personally hoping all of the loreschizos get BTFO by deltarune
There's a non-zero chance that we'll get a literal Dog Ending scenario where Gaster is just Toby in disguise.
It genuinely baffles me that so many people genuinely, unironically think doing Snowgrave (full or aborted) will lead to a "happy ending" in any way. Absolutely delusional. You learned nothing.
I'd love to see it does because it deconstructs pretty much every RPG where you only do the good thing, and makes the player question their actions
imagine the seething on twitter when people complain they have to be bad to get the true good ending
That is exactly the type of pretentious subversion for subversion's sake that trolls try to accuse Undertale of all the time. I'm shocked nobody sees this.
>oooooh doing le good...was actually le bad??
Ganker used to make fun of this exact thing, what happened?
>oooooh doing le good...was actually le bad??
That is literally exactly what Undertale did. Killing Monsters is good in every video game, so Undertale took advantage of that and subverted the expectation by making killing the monsters le bad
You missed the point. What I meant was trickery. Undertale doesn't TRICK you into thinking you're doing good by killing. You're presented with the choices and the game obviously goads you towards sparing. It doesn't pull the rug under you, it doesn't Spec Ops you.
The point is that it doesn't and shouldn't have more impact. It is there only for the people who want to search for it. Forcing you to go through it completely ruins its purpose.
>Undertale doesn't TRICK you into thinking you're doing good by killing.
It does for a while, its not until after Toriel that the game really tells you what you're doing and mocks you for it
No it fricking doesn't. From the very moment the dummy tutorial happens, the game has already revealed its hand. If you choose to intentionally ignore Toriel's advice, that's on you, you tried to be the smartass, not the game.
>Forcing you to go through it completely ruins its purpose.
you aren't "forced". I imagine most people will get the standard ending (which might be bittersweet like noelle or kris dying) and just close the game and move on, and the game just hints there is another route but doesn't push it on your face
If you need to do it to get the "best ending", I consider it forced. Don't care about technicalities.
EXACTLY
EXACTLY. The Snowgrave Route has a LOT of effort put into making you feel awful, so much more powerful then the Genocide route ever was. I want there to be a reason to do it.
>I want there to be a reason to do it
There is a reason. It's not the good ending, but there is a reason. The reason is you wanted to see it. Even if you don't like that reason.
making it required will have more impact than ut's genocide where 90% of players won't bother with because "muh bad route"
>The reason is you wanted to see it. Even if you don't like that reason.
toby already did that with UT, he wont tell the same exact meta story twice.
the reason for doing snowgrave will be because you want to give kris his good ending.
you WILL need the thorn ring, but a save with aborted snowgrave is fricked so you need to get it over to a good save.
>he wont tell the same exact meta story twice
Better than telling a contradictory story.
...OFF kind of did that already...
didn't know off had potentially two timelines and not just a binary choice at the very end of the game
reminder that when gaster is controlling the save screen (when its all green), he will say "PREPARATIONS ARE COMPLETE" when you copy over all save files
I meant the part where you though that the things you did were good, only to be both bad and unfixable.
And let's be honest, no one would realise that they've done something bad in off before Zone 3 or if they came back to an already purified zone.
See if you're still saying that when you've recruited a bunch of murders and mafioso into Castle Town and get it overrun
No mother should have to bury her child
has anyone made a remember you're genocides meme with the funeral yet
just shove every character in there
Someone should get on that, and put Clover(forma de alive} as well.
guys what if the game sucked my dick for doing genoslides this time around?!?!??!?!
What the frick is snowgrave about even, mew under the truck tier nonsense
I love how this thread is ending with Deltarune discussion.