>he hasn't put together the clues
Reminder that the once scene we have Chujin of where he isn't weak and on the verge of death, he's shown miles away from his wife, with a women his wife has no idea exist and he has no problem regularly spending money on.
He was more interested in "mentoring" his blue [hoochie mama] then his wife.
>Chujin's intellect managed to overwhelm Martlets bird stupidity when she had Birdley >which is why Birdley's just a based moron and not total moron like Kanako was
I don't buy it but it would make the timeline where Starlo managed to man up and frick the fox even brighter
>Chujin's intellect managed to overwhelm Martlets bird stupidity when she had Birdley >which is why Birdley's just a based moron and not total moron like Kanako was
Alright anon, first things first, do not, for the love of god, use your 50 hp restorative, you'll need that. Also with the max health debuff, you won't really need it anyway.
Second, the orange and blue waves are static, meaning they always come out the from the same place in the same order, try to memorize them and it'll be easier. Some however change in phase two, so watch out for that.
Phase 1.
Whenever you die, move slightly to the left to dodge the lazer, then the upper corners to dodge the touhou flower blasts.
The black hole flower shower is easily dodged by hugging the top of the box and dodging out of the way of flowers.
Remember when the freeze/lazer attack is and be ready to dodge beforehand.
I hate the touhou blast of flowers, can't help you there. Uhh. Stick to the bottom and use I-frames to dodge if you get hit.
Remember the order of the orange/blue waves and dodging will be much easier.
The widening flower field... shouldn't be too difficult just watch out for flowers and you should be fine.
The flower blasts also always have the same pattern of colors, try to memorize them and dodge to either right or left.
With the flower pillar attack, immediately go left to avoid the hp-reduction lazer. Right flower is always orange, left is always blue.
Phase 2. Transition:
Move to the left immediately, try to dodge the flowers, and then to the right.
With the reverse black hole it's important not. To touch. The edges. Keep that in mind.
The freeze/lazer 2 electric bogaloo, first doge sideways, then up or down and finally diagonally.
The touhou blast is actually a lot easier in phase two. Just duck between the hail of bullets and stick to the bottom.
I fricking hate the next attack. The order of lazers is different, so keep that in mind.
The other attacks are mostly the same, the flying flowers just shoot bullets.
Remember, avoid the edges. That's really important.
Is there a specific trigger for the genocide route? Just clear out the first area like Undertale? Want to kill as many people on netural as possible without starting it.
In the Flowey fight I'm not insane in assuming those were references to other games right? cartoon one was Cuphead, low poly N64 games, clay for Hylics, etc.
said. Good news is, however, is that the rest of the devs were already working on their own, more faithful equivalent to BnP anyway, which is now going to replace it.
https://gamejolt.com/p/what-s-next-t443xyxm
Bits and Pieces was shit because they were trying to canonize secondary shit, like narrachara etc.
But if they go back and go more faithful to the source material, that's a pretty goode. Though I'd rather they do something original than just a resprite. Even if it is something as simple as making the entire game harder
Going to go full autist but I really really really like how her design has an extremely subtle nod to the western aesthetic by actually having her wearing cowboy boots. I originally thought they were long stalkings but her battle sprite shows them more clearly.
The should of done the same sort of nod towards Eastern aesthetics with Starlo's design by giving him two weapon holsters, one for his gun and another for a hilt-less aikuchi katana that would somewhat blend in with his sprites long legs.
>Undyne kills Clover if he ever managed to reach Waterfall
Another reason to hate her I guess, she guts him like a fish if we believe Flowey's narration.
It's everybody who kills Clover. Flowey has to DM railroad the autistic cowboy moron in a way that he only encounters the most incompetent dipshit monsters. Any route he might take where he encounters somebody with basic competency his reverse plot armor kicks in and Flowey has to reset
No idea but I guess the normal path was a dead end. Maybe there were too many royal guards or some shit? We see him get killed by ice traps, Undyne and Hotland(or CORE?) traps so maybe it was just really scuffed.
No idea but I guess the normal path was a dead end. Maybe there were too many royal guards or some shit? We see him get killed by ice traps, Undyne and Hotland(or CORE?) traps so maybe it was just really scuffed.
I don't think it would have helped Clover. It's implied that Clover doesn't remember anything from the resets or loads. If he can't learn attacks/strategies from each death it wouldn't really help him
As to why Flowey doesn't just carry I assumed it was because he needs Clover to develope somewhat to be able to fight Asgore
>Small chance he'll shout it out for the December newsletter.
after ceroba shitshow I would honestly pretend I just know nothing,
a creater of the thing the fanworks are based on giving even the smallest highlight OC dipshittery that ruined the entire lategame will make most of group projects follow suit,
every woman and troony now will want their donut steel to be the star of each project they infect
He has already given the team his """blessing""" which was him saying 'idc lol' basically.
I'm positive he's played it-- Anything to avoid working on DR
I've been grinding roided Martlet phase 2 for hours now, should I restart and try to make it there with more healing items or just keep toughing it out until I hit the perfect run?
>Undyne has almost double her DEF and like 4x her Attack in normal mode
that's why you don't put stats like that in game, because autists will use it like hispanics use dbz powerlevels
yeah, i think "in-lore" atk and def mean a lot more than they do in actual gameplay, since every monster has stats that are hidden and are their actual stats, like toriel and asgore both being 80/80 but their programmed stats are like 6/1 and 10/-30 respectively
I mean, realistically, Undyne /should/ win, but Ceroba is kinda fricking bullshit.
Personally, I think it'd probably be:
Masked Ceroba >> Undyne the Undying >> Genocide Ceroba > Normal Undyne
nah i'd say undune the undying should be on the top.
she has 99 in stats (above boss monsters)
and has like hundreds of thousands of HP.
she's the strongest monster in terms of pure stats (if you ignore asriel)
highly depends on who starts the fight
only reason undyne would fight another monster is if they were on a murderous rampage, this puts her at her strongest
meanwhile the only reason ceroba would fight undyne is if she stood in the way of kanako's wellbeing. ceroba empowered
so we can take this two ways: >ceroba finally snaps and starts killing other monsters as her way to lash out against the world. undyne empowered >undyne is guarding the true lab and ceroba's decided to stick through with her plan. ceroba empowered.
>The El Bailador fight is changed entirely, with your SOUL being outside the box it was confined in. Instead, you dodge the descending "Note Bars" from inside their box, with free movement, with the notes getting knocked away at the bottom of the box instead. Coupled with the fact El Bailador gets very disheartened halfway through the fight, it makes things much easier than in the Pacifist run of this fight.
I just did that part and the dancehomosexual wasn't there.
Did I have to leave 1 enemy alive in the zone for him to show up or did they change that for 1.0?
final genocide boss is tedius and broken
Ceroba also a b***h but manageable
The route is fun tho, more bosses instead of undertale where there were only 2
>All the fanart is currently of clover, Starlo and Martlet along with other random monsters people liked >It's really fricking good >Almost no Ceroba art anywhere
It's almost like nobody likes them
It's hard. The stop/move things are mostly reliant on prediction. If a stop beam will hit at the same time as a shot, get there first and wait. It'll pass by harmlessly. If an orange beam sweeps through a shot, get there at the last minute while you're still in motion.
I think it works because Axis is portrayed as a juggernaut you're supposed to fear. If he were a pushover I'd be really disappointed
The main problem is you can end up in a situation where you have to take a hit either way, which can lead into a spiral of that. I feel like most of Undertale's relied on specific patterns, while this battle seems reliant on RNG that you cannot predict. That and it's another slow ass, long ass battle that takes a couple minutes to get back to where you were. Honestly wouldn't mind a mid-battle checkpoint.
>The main problem is you can end up in a situation where you have to take a hit either way
I've never had that happen. Sometimes you need to be in motion/stoppped while you block a shot, which is a total b***h, but not impossible.
They're good if you're a good shot, but if you're doing genocide the friendliness pellets are better.
They both do the same damage on a perfect shot, but the other one still does good damage even if you frick up a little.
Can I just say the Genocide route is really good compared to UT Geno route? For one thing it isnt as tedious and also there are some badass moments like Clover fricking over Flowey, shooting Axis before he can even finish his sentence, Fricking BIDEN BLASTing Asgore. You really feel like a terrifying force of nature and while Undertale had some moments like that, Yellow does it way better
Eh, not really
It has it's good moments but ACT stuff is way better in Undertale, it also allows you to actually play along with mini bosses like Muffet to spice up the run between slaughtering small mobs
Also you can't actually miss any unique encounters due to killing too much
>finally beat genocide after 2 days of solid attempts on Martlet
I'm fricking free, and all it took was smuggling my two 50 hp heals past the checkpoint.
I thought you were fricking with me but yeah, so it seems.
I don't know whether to be proud of myself for beating it without a full heal or suicidal, but I definitely feel something.
The Pacifist run is only good if you've been able to stomach the npcs so far. If you can't, then it's most likely not worth it, especially since the way it ends is incredibly anticlimactic and really Ceroba-centric.
Flowey fight here was so fricking good, yellow was worth it solely for this, this entire section was phenomenal. While DT will obviously be superior, it makes me wonder if anyone moment will peak this flowey fight, it's truly amazing
I like how this game implemented Flowey even more than the original game, he's a constant actor in the game whereas in the original game he was relegated to the beginning and end only. That's besides going into how much love he was given in the neutral route, his fight was easily the best in the whole game.
the undertale art book.
toby talks about how sans was originally just gonna be a npc you see at snowdin's casino.
but then he made him into the sans we all know today after a complete story re-write
Thats not true If you walk back in waterfall and listen to the flowers you can hear him stalking you, you can also see him following you in every world by backtracking. You are absolutely right that aside
>Mew Mew Love Blaster was foreshadowing to how Clover unlocks the shooter mode from gaining LOVE in Genocide
I feel stupid for not noticing that right away
Worried how strong that "Act heal" is, and the Delta patch drop seems unnecessary, but otherwise good changes. Hope this means they're not planning on messing with the other hard fights.
What i like about it is it doesn't change the bullshit hard fight but it does prevent you from having to replay min max your genocide run like an autist which is good
I got filtered a lot and these are good changes, but I like the bugfixes the most. I hope that they rewrite everything that came after the mines at some point.
>Other
- Fixed the tutorial buttons being swapped in the arcade minigame, also added additional information to the tutorial screen
- Changed the Delta Rune Patch gold requirement from 150 to 100
- Increased the item stock in the final shop of the No Mercy route (Applies on save reset)
- Fixed mistakes in the credits
- Fixed several line breaks, typos and mistakes in the text
- Altered one of Sir Slither’s act dialogues to make the sparing condition more apparent
- Added an autosave post the final pacifist boss as a temporary help with reported performance issues in this cutscene
- Added the Auto-Fire toggles to the death screen of relevant fights so you don’t need to restart the game and fights in order to change it
- Fixed a mood ruining issue in the final act caused by an unintended random event
- Other minor fixes
That's fantastic. I'd never have seen this because I don't like puzzle hints. Yet another example of the game having choices Clover picks his own damn self, which I really liked. Him doing that is the only way the pacifist ending works at all
If you wait 5 minutes without moving after falling into the Dark Ruins, Toriel will actually return and throw down some rope for you to climb only for Flowey to show up in the upper right corner and reset the game before you finish climbing.
same, i believe it's cause the devs in 2 weren't trying for such a serious fangame (ironic since it's full to the brim with content) and didn't want to sell you on their artificial shoehorned OC characters
Frick yes, it's criminally underrated. Fishing is pretty OP though.
i can't really tell how busted fishing was, i was already broken by spamming nazrin's all out attack w/ a physical build and only spark n travis gave me issues
for me, the busted build was pretty much entirely just using sans' buddy attack with frisk that just applies all the fricking statuses and completely prevents anything from moving
>A child with a toy gun was able to reenact justice on the monsters by wiping out a good portion of them, willing himself some extra love then kamehameing a boss monster with ease
Just how strong are the humans in this world
He gets a real gun later regardless of route, but I'm pretty sure it's an optional pickup in Genocide so the point still stands (similarly to how Frisk can kill everyone with a stick if you don't equip anything)
>Toby considers Undertale Blue to be canon, but not Yellow. >Toby danced around the fact that Green might be the game that bridges both Undertale and Deltarune. >Toby denied the fact that he was secretly working on a standalone Sans game. >Toby has declined multiple requests from Sakurai about doing a crossover with Kirby. >He lied about the release date to Deltarune chapter 3.
I don't understand why you people still follow him, let alone trust him.
He doesn't like Undertale or take it seriously. The imposter syndrome is real. Also, game devs don't lie about release dates, they set a goal before they've got minimum viable product and then it winds up being more work than they expected and miss the deadline. It's not like he's wringing his hands cackling watching everyone get sad about delays.
Without a doubt will shoot themselves dead unless monitored 24/7 since Starlo carrys around a real revolver.
Ceroba would buy them 7 for each day of the week if they asked for it and think nothing could go wrong since their kid should of obviously inherited Starlo's gunsafety knowledge.
>starlo is well aware of certain stunts and things that have risks >ceroba is not >starlo is in a race against time in teaching his kid proper gun safety and which stunts are dangerous.
Without a doubt will shoot themselves dead unless monitored 24/7 since Starlo carrys around a real revolver.
Ceroba would buy them 7 for each day of the week if they asked for it and think nothing could go wrong since their kid should of obviously inherited Starlo's gunsafety knowledge.
Did they fix the issue with Steamworks where it doesn't tell you you're about to hit a point of no return in Genocide like it does at the flower enemy in Dunes?
It needs a rewrite. For example, instead of the Fiesty Five being a group of glorified bandits, maybe make them a group of quirky royal guards.
Rewrite Ceroba so that she's just a side character and make her Starlo's wife. Get rid of the stupid plot of Chujin and Kanako.
toby fox made it all by himself while he was in his hyperbolic development chamber while the rest of his team was working on deltarune what do you think jackass
Imagine if Flowey didn't revive you.
Imagine the genocidal maniac's reign of justice-terror just ends out of nowhere because the kid decided to down a bottle of hydrochloric acid. Imagine the sheer confusion of everyone still alive.
>waiting on top of a building >all my friends died before my eyes to a human >ready to risk everything to bring true justice >the human finally arrives >I turn around, ready to give a speech which I rehearsed about 20 times >they suddenly whip out a bottle of pure hydraulic acid >mfw they chug it right in front of me and die instantly
Buy hot coffee from the resort
Give coffee to white deer thing to the east of the resort, get glove
Give glove to bug thing next to the hot spring, get map
Give map to the couple way back where you entered Snowdin at, get matches
Go all the way back to the white deer and give her the matches, get lukewarm coffee
Give lukewarm coffee to the bunny who is stuck
you get the ability to fast travel at the mail places at basically the end of the dunes
otherwise, you don't if you're confused about one of the steps from that guy's guide, he meant the honeydew inn, not the oasis cafe or anything
long ass process keep going until you reach a resort and buy coffee on the right of the resort theres a deer, give them the coffee go left of the resort and give the mittens you got from the deer to the and go back to the beginning and give the snowdin map you got from the and to the couple give the flint to the deer again get the coffee and free the guy
I had no idea this was a thing. When the coffee didn't work I figured he'd be stuck there until Undertale. You actually get a scene during the credits of him still stuck to the pole
long ass process keep going until you reach a resort and buy coffee on the right of the resort theres a deer, give them the coffee go left of the resort and give the mittens you got from the deer to the and go back to the beginning and give the snowdin map you got from the and to the couple give the flint to the deer again get the coffee and free the guy
If I were Flowey I'd just have given up and let Clover die for good once he chugged the acid. Flowey may not have a soul but his unwavering patience outweighs whatever the Cyan kid had that's for fricking sure
Asgore doesn't need for the humans to be dead to cross the barrier. Actually Clover doesn't even know much about the whole situation so why take such an insane fricking move right there? Clover could easily live hidden in the Underground since the monsters love them so much already.
Also if you're going to die anyways why not try saving Ceroba's kid? She was so fricking desperate she fought you with everything she had, so it could be worth a shot to actually try and save Kanako. Clover knows the situation with Asgore is hopeless so why give him what he wants and bring monsters closer to starting a suicidal war with the humans?
I'm seriously considering trying a very small single area fangame that's essentially the True Lab segment I'm almost sure it was cut
>Asgore doesn't need for the humans to be dead to cross the barrier.
Does he not? I would figure he would be more open to the idea of not murdering you undertale if that wasn't the case.
Frisk opens the barrier while alive. It only needs the human souls present. So does clover in the genocide Ending. Asgore said he was going to kill the humans to motivate the monsters and give them hope that he would avenge them
>6 human souls + every monster soul
Random question, but if the monster's souls returned to them after Asriel did his thing, then would the human souls theoretically do the same?
Maybe. If you go to the coffin room in the epilogue. the coffins are open and there aren't any bodies inside. Maybe they were inside and preserved so the souls returned to them and they left.
A secret post epilogue scene of Clover waking up at the end and running to reunite with Martilet and the others would had been kino.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>A secret post epilogue scene of Clover waking up at the end and running to reunite with Martilet and the others would had been kino.
>Clover wakes up >Runs outside to find their friends >Searches the underground >Finds the Wild East town destroyed and Ceroba's Estate replaced with a grave shrine
5 months ago
Anonymous
It wouldn't have been that long between Clover and Frisk falling down, so I think Ceroba would still be alive by then. Unfortunately.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Ceroba has actual reasons to An-hero herself after that true pacifist ending though
5 months ago
Anonymous
A-At least he'd still have Martlet right bros...?
5 months ago
Anonymous
hopefully yes so he can smash her fricking skull with a sledgehammer
5 months ago
Anonymous
I mean if Martlet or Ceroba are still alive that's fine for Clover but what the frick are the other kids gonna do if that's the case.
Imagine being a kid falling into the underground and being scared out of your fricking mind by all the crazy shit, killing monsters out of fear and self-preservation before getting killed yourself only to spend hundreds or so years as a bodiless soul (possibly still conscious of this horrible fate) and then getting brought back to life after both human and monster civilizations are completely changed. No, family, no friends, no nothing. Probably better if they were just allowed to pass on.
5 months ago
Anonymous
That's what Toriel is for. It even ties into the fact that she becomes a teacher in the golden ending.
>then would the human souls theoretically do the same?
I'd expect them to, yes. If they had a body to return to.
Who knows, maybe Asriel restored their body whilst divine? You'd expect to see them, though.
There's a difference between going through the barrier and destroying it, in yellow geno you see clover grab asgores soul and simply walk through it, leaving it in place.
In undertale neutral you take asgores soul and leave, and pacifist the barrier is only destroyed because of asriel animu bullshit using the 6 souls and literally every soul of the monster in the underground.
>I'm seriously considering trying a very small single area fangame that's essentially the True Lab segment I'm almost sure it was cut
I've been thinking the same thing but as a modded 4th ending. Glad I'm not the only one who thinks the same way.
>I'm seriously considering trying a very small single area fangame that's essentially the True Lab segment I'm almost sure it was cut
I've been thinking the same thing but as a modded 4th ending. Glad I'm not the only one who thinks the same way.
>I'm seriously considering trying a very small single area fangame that's essentially the True Lab segment I'm almost sure it was cut
I've been thinking the same thing but as a modded 4th ending. Glad I'm not the only one who thinks the same way.
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now kiss- I mean, work together
Alright, frick it, I'm gonna do it. Gonna have to learn some spritemaking but thankfully the overworld sprites are already done
And I'll do it in Godot because FRICK gamemaker and I want to do some 2D-3D bullshit with the fight.
Best of luck buddy. Don't accidentally recruit a team of competent autists to rewrite the game now. That would be terrible.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Thanks. I'm only making a small section and if I'm calling anyone to help its gonna be with music or art because I already know exactly what I'm going to write and do with this
>Godot
Well, I was going to use gamemaker itself to mod my ending to the actual game. I have absolutely zero experience in gamedev or a work ethic, but I guess I gotta start somewhere. Hope your work goes well on your end, dude.
>Asgore doesn't need for the humans to be dead to cross the barrier.
Does he not? I would figure he would be more open to the idea of not murdering you undertale if that wasn't the case.
>Clover could easily live hidden in the Underground since the monsters love them so much already.
It's awkward, like it expects the player to have done Neutral and know what it costs to try and protect Clover, but I accepted it. He doesn't want some other kid to get sacrificed instead.
>why not try saving Ceroba's kid
Now, this was bullshit. It was the perfect justification for the sacrifice and they pissed it away. You didn't need a whole heart to make a blue syringe so you shouldn't need a whole heart to make a yellow syringe. A sample for the vixen, the rest to open the gate. It was also an opportunity to have Ceroba redeem herself by going from "I HAVE TO DO THIS" to "YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS"
>Playing a fangame about one of the DEAD KIDS Asgore was gathering to break the barrier.
I understand the frustration but still, your brain doesn't work if you didn't realize the game was rigged from the start.
It works if you accept that Clover had already decided this on his own. Everyone explicitly tells him not to do it, but the littlest deputy was going to save them all and there wasn't a damn thing any of them could do about it.
Initially, yes, but then Ceroba convinces them and they start cheering Clover on. It's moronic.
You're absolutely right about Ceroba being the wrong one to say it. Her characterization is way too inconsistent. I've said it before but going in the jar should have left enough yellow to save Kanako, which is more than Ceroba deserves and that should have made her the most distraught out of all of them. Going from the coldest b***h to the one most broken up over this would have made her character way more tolerable.
>save them all
from being killed by humans in Asgore's war?????
Clover didn't save them from anything from his POV.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Isn't the idea that Asgore would become as strong as Asriel (infinite attack and defense) and kill all of humanity by himself?
5 months ago
Anonymous
He can't even beat a pacifist child. An army of human adults would genocide the monsters easily.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah but this would happen after he absorbs the 7 human souls, which would make him unkillable like Asriel
5 months ago
Anonymous
I was talking about Asriel.
5 months ago
Anonymous
From the three of them being killed by Asgore in Asgore's war, for starters. We know what would have happened to Martlet.
But it wasn't conveyed very well. There really should have been a scene in Pacifist where Flowey rubs his nose in that. Clover's decision would have made more sense.
Different anon here, but it being an undertale fangame, I was half-hoping there would be an alternate, hypothetical non-genocide ending where Clover lives somehow. Would it be non-canon? Clearly, but the whole fan-game was never canon to begin with.
>Frisk opens the barrier while alive.
that was asriel who opened the barrier using the already dead 6 human souls + every monster soul though
There's a difference between going through the barrier and destroying it, in yellow geno you see clover grab asgores soul and simply walk through it, leaving it in place.
In undertale neutral you take asgores soul and leave, and pacifist the barrier is only destroyed because of asriel animu bullshit using the 6 souls and literally every soul of the monster in the underground.
I see. Still doesn't give Clover a good reason to let Asgore get closer to his insane war and kill themselves (since there's absolutely no way in hell Clover knows about Frisk doing Asriel Ex Machina and letting the monsters free peacefully)
Why would a fricking child think of doing that anyways. Why did Ceroba/Martlet have a heart container with them
Specifically with Clover killing himself under the Sakura tree, yeah it's dumb.
The game honestly should have ended with Asgore quietly confiding in Clover his plans for peace with humanity and an end to the "war".
They tried to do a bitter sweet ending that tied into the cannon but no matter what way you cut it, it makes zero sense for him to just kill himself and let the Asgore, who hes been told by multiple people wants to start a war with humanity once he's free, get one step closer to freedom.
The Flowey argument of him forcing him to chose that path due to eternal resets doesn't make sense either since Clover doesn't keep any of his memories on reset, therefore he'd have no clue he's even stuck.
UTY genocide is better than UT genocide because it feels like there is a satisfying reason why clover would do it, that is to actually save the souls of the dead children and enact revenge on the monsters for killing them.
undertale cyan >falling down through the mountain actually really hurts since the flowers most likely haven't grown into a nice bed >something notices this. >it's coming for you. very slowly. >sneaking around as Ribbon the goemon wannabe lets you progress through the ruins. >it catches you eventually. >you wake up in bed, your ribbon replaced with a head bandage. >Toriel stops being a shadowy figure, and offers you safety, allowing you to stay for as long as you wish. >refusing comes with a condition. >she will personally accompany you to your destination. with enough patience you will have the opportunity to ditch her, or allow her to tag along the entire game. >accepting however ends the game. if you never saved, you are given an ending: >you live a peaceful life, there in the ruins. you learn to bake, sew, make furniture and garden and then die of natural causes. >With no place to bury you, she carries you to be buried alongside her other children.
Bug or not, that's actually pretty funny. With all the corn Starlo's parents make and give out, it'd be funny to imagine she just made so many Corn Chowder's to the point her fridge is full of it.
Whats the deal with the mask
Why does Ceroba turn into a boss monster when she uses it
is Kanako the mask? Kanako is a boss monster so does Ceroba putting the mask on turn her into a boss monster?
A Mother's Love, but SPECIFICALLY the 2nd half of it (the one that plays in the 4th phase). The first half kinda sucks, but that SAVE the World melody goes hard.
If we're talking full songs though, Showdown for sure.
>the Steamworks restoring to its own area music
I'm not in love with the game's soundtrack in a vacuum, but the timing was fricking amazing. Stuff like this and the entirety of the El Bailador were just so good.
I have 3 of them, pear coffee and cactus. I know there's supposed to be 4, did I already miss it and I should have had all 4 already or will I get it during Steamworks?
I have 3 of them, pear coffee and cactus. I know there's supposed to be 4, did I already miss it and I should have had all 4 already or will I get it during Steamworks?
Where are the pear and coffee? I never saw them on my playthrough.
>pear in the ruins, there are cracks in the walls shaped like numbers, number 5 is the earliest and number 1 is the last you find, you have to press them from 1 to 5 so going backwards, then on the dark cave area the top right blockade of spiky rocks will go away >coffee behind the inn, there's a hidden path going up
>pear in the ruins, there are cracks in the walls shaped like numbers, number 5 is the earliest and number 1 is the last you find, you have to press them from 1 to 5 so going backwards, then on the dark cave area the top right blockade of spiky rocks will go away >coffee behind the inn, there's a hidden path going up
Should also mention that if you didn't get the pear, you're shit outta luck and have to restart the entire game.
Are you guys writing any stories or AU autism stuff like me? Undertale always fills me with story ideas after I've been exposed to it. Its like radiation, side effects and all
I refuse to play this just because of the cringe furry weeb OC, what is the justification for the main character killing himself, thus contributing to the eventual possible destruction of humanity? (it didn't happen but he doesn't know that)
Honestly it seems they simply forgot and took for Granted that the whole "war" thing was just Asgore keeping morale up for his actual plan of seeking peace with humanity and ending the conflict that you'd know if you came to the game out of Undertale.
As a fan of Undertale and Deltarune to the point where it inspired me to become a not NEET, I cannot actually recommend this game. The sprites are pretty, the music is nice.
The writing is milquetoast and the characters are completely moronic with ALMOST zero redeeming qualities.
It is a solid 5/10, through and through.
I thought of playing just the neutral route because everyone says the final boss is kino but i don't know if i could play through what seems to be a mediocre game just for a cool final boss
As a fan of Undertale and Deltarune to the point where it inspired me to become a not NEET, I cannot actually recommend this game. The sprites are pretty, the music is nice.
The writing is milquetoast and the characters are completely moronic with ALMOST zero redeeming qualities.
It is a solid 5/10, through and through.
oh my fricking god, okay.
The game IS good for the most part. I will give it that. Genuinely most of the problems people have with it are the final segments of the pacifist route
Anon here's a link to a neutral save file if you just want to play the final boss
https://mega.nz/file/26YERIpa#mUb1xYqpdpo6kw8xQdLeKgsisI0zbXlpoHBeDa-Lig4
The part that fricked up my enjoyment of the Ceroba fight (besides the plot issues and untested bullet combos that I assume was fixed in 1.1) most was the fact it had 4 phases
That's beyond excessive even for a final boss
I think this game is very high quality but the final bosses for pacifist and genocide suffer from something many Undertale fangames suffer from, they don't know when an attack should end.
in Undertale and Deltarune attacks are short, quick, unique and to the point, the only one that breaks this is Sans' last move but it is meant to be the hardest one in the game. Fans seem to base many attack on this one which doesn't work for me
same
like damn I agree the story wasn't perfect but the hyperbolic anons nitpicking everything are something else
undertale has plotholes and stupid moments too
same
like damn I agree the story wasn't perfect but the hyperbolic anons nitpicking everything are something else
undertale has plotholes and stupid moments too
Don't worry, it's probably just one or two autists anyways.
Same, and only pacifist. But I had a thought going through my head the entire time: >Jee, aren't these characters a little lacking in character?
Starlo, Starlo's gang, Martlet, they're fine. Everyone else just seems stunted and inconsistent. The biggest offender was Ceroba by far. No foreshadowing for her betrayal, no emotional connection to make the betrayal MEAN something, nothing. Dalv was just sort of there. The random encounter monsters lacked something special that they had in Undertale. It felt like you were playing around with the monsters in Undertale, while in Yellow it's just like a cold analysis.
So no, I was poisoned by my own thoughts the entire playthrough.
it's not even that hard once you get used to it, it's the exact same timing as the normal gun, you just keep doing it until you've done 6 hits instead of 1/2/3 hits
It’s easy but if you go from pacifist to genocide, it’s poorly explained since you use it once on a dummy then have to fricking fight the second hardest boss in the game with it
i got filtered
>Ceroba was gonna be bred multiple times canonically
>he hasn't put together the clues
Reminder that the once scene we have Chujin of where he isn't weak and on the verge of death, he's shown miles away from his wife, with a women his wife has no idea exist and he has no problem regularly spending money on.
He was more interested in "mentoring" his blue [hoochie mama] then his wife.
... All for me to mating press Martlet instead.
>Starlo wants Ceroba
>but Ceroba wants Chujin
>but Chujin wants Martlet
>but Martlet wants Clover
The love line of despair.
And Clover wants Flowey
and Flowey wants...?
The only thing Clover wants is JUSTICE
So, that explains Birdley. Birdley is the bastard child of Marlet and Chujin. Fascinating.
>Chujin's intellect managed to overwhelm Martlets bird stupidity when she had Birdley
>which is why Birdley's just a based moron and not total moron like Kanako was
I don't buy it but it would make the timeline where Starlo managed to man up and frick the fox even brighter
>Chujin's intellect
sex with the fish, but especially sex with this squirrel
I'm stuck at the fricking fox bawd's fight in genocide, someone help me.
it gets worse
Alright anon, first things first, do not, for the love of god, use your 50 hp restorative, you'll need that. Also with the max health debuff, you won't really need it anyway.
Second, the orange and blue waves are static, meaning they always come out the from the same place in the same order, try to memorize them and it'll be easier. Some however change in phase two, so watch out for that.
Phase 1.
Whenever you die, move slightly to the left to dodge the lazer, then the upper corners to dodge the touhou flower blasts.
The black hole flower shower is easily dodged by hugging the top of the box and dodging out of the way of flowers.
Remember when the freeze/lazer attack is and be ready to dodge beforehand.
I hate the touhou blast of flowers, can't help you there. Uhh. Stick to the bottom and use I-frames to dodge if you get hit.
Remember the order of the orange/blue waves and dodging will be much easier.
The widening flower field... shouldn't be too difficult just watch out for flowers and you should be fine.
The flower blasts also always have the same pattern of colors, try to memorize them and dodge to either right or left.
With the flower pillar attack, immediately go left to avoid the hp-reduction lazer. Right flower is always orange, left is always blue.
Phase 2. Transition:
Move to the left immediately, try to dodge the flowers, and then to the right.
With the reverse black hole it's important not. To touch. The edges. Keep that in mind.
The freeze/lazer 2 electric bogaloo, first doge sideways, then up or down and finally diagonally.
The touhou blast is actually a lot easier in phase two. Just duck between the hail of bullets and stick to the bottom.
I fricking hate the next attack. The order of lazers is different, so keep that in mind.
The other attacks are mostly the same, the flying flowers just shoot bullets.
Remember, avoid the edges. That's really important.
can you escape the robot in the chase or is it just inevitable?
You speed up going diagonally.
I played the game entirely on a controller but had to use a keyboard on that part
player movement isn't normalized so walk diagonally to gain speed
>
Oh boy, furry fanfiction.
Retribution goes unbelievably fricking hard
Is there a specific trigger for the genocide route? Just clear out the first area like Undertale? Want to kill as many people on netural as possible without starting it.
As long as you don't grind out encounters in the ruins you should be okay.
He was so right, they had to write him suiciding himself in order to make him wrong.
God, some of these fights are annoyingly long if you accidently frick up or just get caught in an unfamiliar pattern
In the Flowey fight I'm not insane in assuming those were references to other games right? cartoon one was Cuphead, low poly N64 games, clay for Hylics, etc.
Yes anon, though the cartoon one wasn't cuphead, it was binding of isaac(flash).
Sorry I meant the other cartoony one
I think that's exactly what they were going for. The N64 one even uses the trumpet from OOT and the reversed Song of Healing from Majoras Mask.
All it did was remind me how annoying the random battles are.
Once you've "solved" them once it just becomes busywork and wasted time.
Didnt the dev get caught with CP?
you're thinking of bits & pieces
Pretty much what
said. Good news is, however, is that the rest of the devs were already working on their own, more faithful equivalent to BnP anyway, which is now going to replace it.
https://gamejolt.com/p/what-s-next-t443xyxm
Bits and Pieces was shit because they were trying to canonize secondary shit, like narrachara etc.
But if they go back and go more faithful to the source material, that's a pretty goode. Though I'd rather they do something original than just a resprite. Even if it is something as simple as making the entire game harder
This guy?
Just checked and his account's suspended.
Wayback says it's him
Private trackers and the consequences.
https://files.catbox.moe/rm6k35.png
I CAN SAVE CEROBA
I CAN FIX HER
I CAN
I JUST NEED TO CORRECT HER WITH MONTHS AND MONTHS OF NON STOP RAPE
Going to go full autist but I really really really like how her design has an extremely subtle nod to the western aesthetic by actually having her wearing cowboy boots. I originally thought they were long stalkings but her battle sprite shows them more clearly.
The should of done the same sort of nod towards Eastern aesthetics with Starlo's design by giving him two weapon holsters, one for his gun and another for a hilt-less aikuchi katana that would somewhat blend in with his sprites long legs.
This a FUN value?
According to the wiki, yes.
It's a fun value thing and really the only mystery left in the game
I'm assuming the character is different because you're doing genocide? This is the one I got.
Believe it or not, also a fun event, just with a different character.
Maybe, but after that it's like I'm in a weird mix of genocide and pacifist because the cafe place isn't empty now
Nevermind I just missed a room
Are any of the fights in yellow as kino as the ribbit mod secret boss?
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Neutral final boss is extremely kino
Neutral's final boss is probably my favorite in the game, it struck something that the pacifist and genocide final bosses just didn't.
Closest equivalent is Telly-Vis, whose attacks are literally reruns of every previous enemies' attacks.
flowey does that too
i think he only copies bosses you killed
>oh wow it's just a rehash of UT bosses
>actually most of the attacks are brand new
My knees
>Undyne kills Clover if he ever managed to reach Waterfall
Another reason to hate her I guess, she guts him like a fish if we believe Flowey's narration.
It's everybody who kills Clover. Flowey has to DM railroad the autistic cowboy moron in a way that he only encounters the most incompetent dipshit monsters. Any route he might take where he encounters somebody with basic competency his reverse plot armor kicks in and Flowey has to reset
To be fair he isn't a timegod like frisk so it's way more reasonable.
But why doesn't flowey just follow and savescum him like he does on the alt path?
No idea but I guess the normal path was a dead end. Maybe there were too many royal guards or some shit? We see him get killed by ice traps, Undyne and Hotland(or CORE?) traps so maybe it was just really scuffed.
I don't think it would have helped Clover. It's implied that Clover doesn't remember anything from the resets or loads. If he can't learn attacks/strategies from each death it wouldn't really help him
As to why Flowey doesn't just carry I assumed it was because he needs Clover to develope somewhat to be able to fight Asgore
>game whose only highlight is just lust inducing furry characters
Cooomcucks arent human beings
Torture and murder all porn addicts on sight
So why doesn't flowey helps clover when he gets out of the ruins in a normal route?
He avoids letting other people see he even exists
I like how this theme keeps getting angrier
>the only enemies you instakill in genocide are the pissweak ruins ones
WHERES MY FRICKING ANGER POWER
are jannies banning anyone who doesn't enjoy the fursona donut steel OC?
Any easy to miss secret stuff or easter eggs?
FUN events
the scarf that regens HP
golden items
Getting the band in Honeydew Inn to play dogsong can get you a defense item from one of the audience members
has Tobi Fox played through or C&D'd this yet?
I doubt the creator of Earthbound Halloween Hack is going to C&D free fangames anytime soon.
ok, what's his opinion on it at least?
bark bark woof
>iirc, he actually greenlit it.
where?
i don't remember him talking about it at ALL?
iirc, he actually greenlit it. Small chance he'll shout it out for the December newsletter.
thank you
>Small chance he'll shout it out for the December newsletter.
after ceroba shitshow I would honestly pretend I just know nothing,
a creater of the thing the fanworks are based on giving even the smallest highlight OC dipshittery that ruined the entire lategame will make most of group projects follow suit,
every woman and troony now will want their donut steel to be the star of each project they infect
He has already given the team his """blessing""" which was him saying 'idc lol' basically.
I'm positive he's played it-- Anything to avoid working on DR
Any interesting Genocide ACTs?
STOMP
I like the snake enemy ones
It's not genocide. It's justice for the slain.
Bad bait
Cope. A fangame btfo Toby as always. Deltarune has a shit style and writing compared to this
>no argument
seething toboids
>mass reply
disregarded
You did buy everything from Mo, right?
I've been grinding roided Martlet phase 2 for hours now, should I restart and try to make it there with more healing items or just keep toughing it out until I hit the perfect run?
The biggest problem with UT Yellow geno is that the final boss gives you worse healing items than vanilla UT gives you for Undyne
realistically, who would win?
in reality undyne because we know clover is a pure jobber
Undyne has almost double her DEF and like 4x her Attack in normal mode. She absolutely bodies Ceroba.
>Undyne has almost double her DEF and like 4x her Attack in normal mode
that's why you don't put stats like that in game, because autists will use it like hispanics use dbz powerlevels
yeah, i think "in-lore" atk and def mean a lot more than they do in actual gameplay, since every monster has stats that are hidden and are their actual stats, like toriel and asgore both being 80/80 but their programmed stats are like 6/1 and 10/-30 respectively
I mean, realistically, Undyne /should/ win, but Ceroba is kinda fricking bullshit.
Personally, I think it'd probably be:
Masked Ceroba >> Undyne the Undying >> Genocide Ceroba > Normal Undyne
nah i'd say undune the undying should be on the top.
she has 99 in stats (above boss monsters)
and has like hundreds of thousands of HP.
she's the strongest monster in terms of pure stats (if you ignore asriel)
highly depends on who starts the fight
only reason undyne would fight another monster is if they were on a murderous rampage, this puts her at her strongest
meanwhile the only reason ceroba would fight undyne is if she stood in the way of kanako's wellbeing. ceroba empowered
so we can take this two ways:
>ceroba finally snaps and starts killing other monsters as her way to lash out against the world. undyne empowered
>undyne is guarding the true lab and ceroba's decided to stick through with her plan. ceroba empowered.
Undyne wins because she's a much better character
>The El Bailador fight is changed entirely, with your SOUL being outside the box it was confined in. Instead, you dodge the descending "Note Bars" from inside their box, with free movement, with the notes getting knocked away at the bottom of the box instead. Coupled with the fact El Bailador gets very disheartened halfway through the fight, it makes things much easier than in the Pacifist run of this fight.
I just did that part and the dancehomosexual wasn't there.
Did I have to leave 1 enemy alive in the zone for him to show up or did they change that for 1.0?
You skip him if you grind the area to "but nobody came" before that, yes
is genocide fun or tedious
some of these battles make me crave genocide
final genocide boss is tedius and broken
Ceroba also a b***h but manageable
The route is fun tho, more bosses instead of undertale where there were only 2
Felt nowhere near as tedious as in UT, has two (arguably three) really hard fights.
i agree, relius was right to brainfrick that squirrel, but i wouldn't call it "science"
>All the fanart is currently of clover, Starlo and Martlet along with other random monsters people liked
>It's really fricking good
>Almost no Ceroba art anywhere
It's almost like nobody likes them
is the axis fight hard or am i just a moron
like some of the stop/move things seem broken, like there's just no way to avoid damage depending on RNG
nah, even normal axis is way harder than any fight in true pacifist undertale
It's hard. The stop/move things are mostly reliant on prediction. If a stop beam will hit at the same time as a shot, get there first and wait. It'll pass by harmlessly. If an orange beam sweeps through a shot, get there at the last minute while you're still in motion.
I think it works because Axis is portrayed as a juggernaut you're supposed to fear. If he were a pushover I'd be really disappointed
The main problem is you can end up in a situation where you have to take a hit either way, which can lead into a spiral of that. I feel like most of Undertale's relied on specific patterns, while this battle seems reliant on RNG that you cannot predict. That and it's another slow ass, long ass battle that takes a couple minutes to get back to where you were. Honestly wouldn't mind a mid-battle checkpoint.
>The main problem is you can end up in a situation where you have to take a hit either way
I've never had that happen. Sometimes you need to be in motion/stoppped while you block a shot, which is a total b***h, but not impossible.
for the rotatey ones, you can wiggle back and forth, which counts as moving iirc
are silver bullets actually good? why do they have so little atk in the description
the shot has to be PERFECT.
They're good if you're a good shot, but if you're doing genocide the friendliness pellets are better.
They both do the same damage on a perfect shot, but the other one still does good damage even if you frick up a little.
Can I just say the Genocide route is really good compared to UT Geno route? For one thing it isnt as tedious and also there are some badass moments like Clover fricking over Flowey, shooting Axis before he can even finish his sentence, Fricking BIDEN BLASTing Asgore. You really feel like a terrifying force of nature and while Undertale had some moments like that, Yellow does it way better
all UT genocide has going for is undyne and sans, chara cucking you is moronic, even with the meta commentary
I kind of appreciate that Chara isn't involved at all, showcasing that humans really can be unstoppable powerhouses compared to monsters
axis you've done well so far but up until now I've only been using a mere 5 percent of my power
eh not really.
the creepy factor is much in undertale's genocide.
and also sans is a much better and more fun final boss than twitter bird
dispensing JUSTICE also feels much more satisfying than just murdering everyone for the sake of it
Eh, not really
It has it's good moments but ACT stuff is way better in Undertale, it also allows you to actually play along with mini bosses like Muffet to spice up the run between slaughtering small mobs
Also you can't actually miss any unique encounters due to killing too much
Does Mew Mew Love Blaster actually have a high score, and if so what is it?
doesn't matter if you beat it, you get nothing
as much as I hate Cerobe her battle themes are kino
>finally beat genocide after 2 days of solid attempts on Martlet
I'm fricking free, and all it took was smuggling my two 50 hp heals past the checkpoint.
you did use gunpowder, the full heal item, right anon?
Gonna be real with you anons I never once interacted with that item because I assumed it was going to frick me up, what does it do?
it full heals you
I thought you were fricking with me but yeah, so it seems.
I don't know whether to be proud of myself for beating it without a full heal or suicidal, but I definitely feel something.
>File i got of leddit after locking my good items into neutral had eaten the gunpowder
HATE
I couldn't put up with her bullshit so I just edited my saves defense to make her do less damage.
>he didn't stock up on gunpowder
Level with me, anons - Is pacifist run worth doing? It's how I started this game but some of the enemy patterns are just kinda bullshit.
if you want the "canon" ending, yes
The Pacifist run is only good if you've been able to stomach the npcs so far. If you can't, then it's most likely not worth it, especially since the way it ends is incredibly anticlimactic and really Ceroba-centric.
Killing the final boss instead of sparing them gives you an arguably better ending than going full pacifist. Neutral is also worth a playthrough.
I liked it. In the end Clover does what he thinks is right and not necessarily what the player thinks is right, so be prepared to give up some control
Is it better to stick with the 2hp heal accessory or go for stronger defense?
I replaced until I got a 9 DEF item, it's good but it has limits
Definitely good in the Axel fight because you can abuse it for free heals during the red orb section
god i hate her but i also love her so much, i want to slap and beat the shit out of her but i also want to make her feel loved
So how many of you would pay to see her rape corrected. Asking for a friend.
Not me. She's that unlikeable.
me
100% me
If there's one thing this game gave JUSTICE to, it was fricking Flowey.
Flowey fight here was so fricking good, yellow was worth it solely for this, this entire section was phenomenal.
While DT will obviously be superior, it makes me wonder if anyone moment will peak this flowey fight, it's truly amazing
I like how this game implemented Flowey even more than the original game, he's a constant actor in the game whereas in the original game he was relegated to the beginning and end only. That's besides going into how much love he was given in the neutral route, his fight was easily the best in the whole game.
>he's a constant actor in the game whereas in the original game he was relegated to the beginning and end only.
that's because most of his role through undertale was given to sans.
originally flowey was gonna be a much more prominent character in undertale.
This is the first I'm hearing about this, do you have the sauce anon?
the undertale art book.
toby talks about how sans was originally just gonna be a npc you see at snowdin's casino.
but then he made him into the sans we all know today after a complete story re-write
Thats not true If you walk back in waterfall and listen to the flowers you can hear him stalking you, you can also see him following you in every world by backtracking. You are absolutely right that aside
When is the divergence point between pacisfit and neutral?
Haven't gotten to it yet, but apparently Steamworks.
Can you softlock yourself in the build-a-bot room by getting to the door with something on your head?
Pretty sure everything close to the door loses its hitbox for collisions
What are the texts that hint at clover's past?
There is this one, the one in ceroba's house and are there more?
I'm only aware of that one and the one in Ceroba's kitchen where it mentions Clover was responsible for chores or something.
lategay here
I don't have to wait 3 days do I....
Hit the lever next to it dumbfrick.
I did... 🙁
Oh.
My apologies then.
Those arrows on the wall are pretty weird, I wonder if they mean anything
wHERE IS THE SECRET ROOM IN prostituteFOX'S HOUSE? I FEEL LIKE A moron WANDERING AROUND
Under Japanese weeb table
Ok that's kind of moronic because you can't interact with it from the top, so I didn't even think it was an item you could touch.
>Mew Mew Love Blaster was foreshadowing to how Clover unlocks the shooter mode from gaining LOVE in Genocide
I feel stupid for not noticing that right away
https://gamejolt.com/p/version-1-1-out-now-patch-notes-2na6ypkt
patch is out
good changes
Fricking hell that last one was practically needed with how unfair that shit is
if you use any of these you didn't beat the game btw
>Controls for El Bailador are still ass
>Easy mode just presses Z for you
>No Mercy route
>Not Genocide
I'm so fricking TIRED of sensitivity culture holy shit
Maybe it's a case where saying "Genocide" gets you slapped by Gamejolt staff, like how Youtube demonetizes you
>NERFroba
>Fixed a mood ruining issue in the final act caused by an unintended random event
Did they finally cure Ceroba's autism?
They're perhaps referring to the intense lag that might happens once you defeat Pacifist Ceroba, just after Clover's reminescence.
Worried how strong that "Act heal" is, and the Delta patch drop seems unnecessary, but otherwise good changes. Hope this means they're not planning on messing with the other hard fights.
What i like about it is it doesn't change the bullshit hard fight but it does prevent you from having to replay min max your genocide run like an autist which is good
>Axis unnerfed on either route
MY MAN
wish they'd patch that fox to not be moronic
I got filtered a lot and these are good changes, but I like the bugfixes the most. I hope that they rewrite everything that came after the mines at some point.
>Fixed a mood ruining issue in the final act caused by an unintended random event
What does this mean?
pacifist ending lag.
I didn't mind doing the fights twice once I figured out what was going on.
Then again I play the toohoos
what's the secret tape?
basically it talks about how axis murdered a human and how he'll keep the soul a secret from asgore
Kanako practicing her rap skills
Apparently Axis was supposed to slow down in the chase sequences for every time he caught you.
I didn't know you could redo them I just kept reloading my save until I got it on the first go
Not being able to make Sir Slither a main character is a crime.
>Other
- Fixed the tutorial buttons being swapped in the arcade minigame, also added additional information to the tutorial screen
- Changed the Delta Rune Patch gold requirement from 150 to 100
- Increased the item stock in the final shop of the No Mercy route (Applies on save reset)
- Fixed mistakes in the credits
- Fixed several line breaks, typos and mistakes in the text
- Altered one of Sir Slither’s act dialogues to make the sparing condition more apparent
- Added an autosave post the final pacifist boss as a temporary help with reported performance issues in this cutscene
- Added the Auto-Fire toggles to the death screen of relevant fights so you don’t need to restart the game and fights in order to change it
- Fixed a mood ruining issue in the final act caused by an unintended random event
- Other minor fixes
Okay did anyone else think Axis was a girl I can't be the only one right
What do you think it's the most underrated thing of this game?
That one miner's NO smoke puff
Actually got me 'avin a giggl and I've never seen it mentioned
I wonder how many people skipped this. It's such a great little moment.
That's fantastic. I'd never have seen this because I don't like puzzle hints. Yet another example of the game having choices Clover picks his own damn self, which I really liked. Him doing that is the only way the pacifist ending works at all
The boat ride with Martlow.
She's annoying at times, yeah, but the scene was genuinely really nice.
How does it compare to Ralsei's boat scene?
Well, you're not stuck with Ralsei for starters, so that automatically makes it better than his boat scene.
hey
Ralsei's cool.
He's like a little brother.
>Gote: Aren't we close?
>Birb: So, like, Chunji is my father.
Robert it goes down
If you wait 5 minutes without moving after falling into the Dark Ruins, Toriel will actually return and throw down some rope for you to climb only for Flowey to show up in the upper right corner and reset the game before you finish climbing.
That's great.
most (or all, i don't remember) enemies having hurt sprites
Hurt enemies having different reaction to ACTing
>Just got to the robot chase
>It was easy
Lolwut
This is what people were complaining about?
I never once got caught by axis
Oh look at mr diagonal running over here with his humblebrag
Axis was just barely faster than you, so you had to cut corners and not bump into anything
After you do the mansion, are there any changes in previous areas to see?
Undertale yellower : true lab & Kanako when?
Now I'm thinking of anonymous agony and how it's next "chapter" was supposed to be about Haze's sister.
you guys played the ACTUAL undertale 2 right?
i literally just got done doing the "pacifist" route earlier today
i'll be honest i think i had more fun with 2 than i did yellow
same, i believe it's cause the devs in 2 weren't trying for such a serious fangame (ironic since it's full to the brim with content) and didn't want to sell you on their artificial shoehorned OC characters
i can't really tell how busted fishing was, i was already broken by spamming nazrin's all out attack w/ a physical build and only spark n travis gave me issues
for me, the busted build was pretty much entirely just using sans' buddy attack with frisk that just applies all the fricking statuses and completely prevents anything from moving
Frick yes, it's criminally underrated. Fishing is pretty OP though.
Name?
undertale 2 revenge of the robots
Are there any saves of genocide or should i just do it again?
I want the bird dead, i won't be satisfied otherwise
Clover sugma blast
What does Axel's binary letter say?
it's a sextape with the bot you built for him
don't remember it exactly, but i think it's something like "I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SEND LETTERS. HELP."
Devs give us pacichad hardmode ending defying destiny
Sorry, pacisissies can only follow the established timeline please understand
>>>/vg/
Clover's yellowstone blast
Never got an answer yesterday.
Sex with Ceroba while she's wearing the mask. Yes or no?
Yes of course. How many phases does she have in that battle?
Oh YES, gimme that earth-shattering, mind blowing sex!
>When the hatefricking is MUTUAL
yes
I love my momwife Martlet
>A child with a toy gun was able to reenact justice on the monsters by wiping out a good portion of them, willing himself some extra love then kamehameing a boss monster with ease
Just how strong are the humans in this world
>next child with a wooden stick can erase the world with a few hours buildup
OP as frick.
He gets a real gun later regardless of route, but I'm pretty sure it's an optional pickup in Genocide so the point still stands (similarly to how Frisk can kill everyone with a stick if you don't equip anything)
Monsters get hurt based on how much you want to hurt them.
If monsters take damage based on killing intent then does that mean they'd tank a whole nuke if it was detonated by accident
Yeah. Part of my headcannon is that it has to be malice towards an individual monster, so aoe wouldnt be effective
No, because the nails do more damage than the rubber bullets, so premeditation is taken into account.
as a wise man and his news once said: that's the power of love
Also, I will say one other thing.
They fricked up with warning boxes.
The attacks fire off before they're actually done.
>Toby considers Undertale Blue to be canon, but not Yellow.
>Toby danced around the fact that Green might be the game that bridges both Undertale and Deltarune.
>Toby denied the fact that he was secretly working on a standalone Sans game.
>Toby has declined multiple requests from Sakurai about doing a crossover with Kirby.
>He lied about the release date to Deltarune chapter 3.
I don't understand why you people still follow him, let alone trust him.
He doesn't like Undertale or take it seriously. The imposter syndrome is real. Also, game devs don't lie about release dates, they set a goal before they've got minimum viable product and then it winds up being more work than they expected and miss the deadline. It's not like he's wringing his hands cackling watching everyone get sad about delays.
Sources on literally all and any of this bullshit but the last one?
I want to cave her fricking skull in with a metal bat
>this idiotic, irresponsible creatura had sex and had a kid
>Ganker still can't
I mean she's the only other extremely oriental fox monster besides Chujin so they're weirdly made for each other in some way?
if Starlo managed to date her, how would their child be?
The kid gets themself killed by doing some moronic cowboy stunt that Ceroba agreed to allow
>starlo is well aware of certain stunts and things that have risks
>ceroba is not
>starlo is in a race against time in teaching his kid proper gun safety and which stunts are dangerous.
If Starlo isn't going to keep his eyes on the child, they will be pushing up daisies in no time.
Without a doubt will shoot themselves dead unless monitored 24/7 since Starlo carrys around a real revolver.
Ceroba would buy them 7 for each day of the week if they asked for it and think nothing could go wrong since their kid should of obviously inherited Starlo's gunsafety knowledge.
Ceroba was supposed to take Clover to the True Lab so you could have a nice day to save Kanako that's why that ending is the way it is
Man. I wasn't expecting them to add anything but my brain worms are still sad that it was only bugfixes and balance changes
I'll only download a patch for this game when they fix Ceroba's storyline
why do all of these fangames have young children as the protag?
you're telling me not a single adult fell into the underground?
not even once?
i mean if they did the events of the original couldn't have happened because all the monsters would already be dead
I imagine only kids are stupid enough to go near the place. Any sane adult would realize the potential risks of creating a so fusion monster
luv Martlet and her calling me cute make me blush
Did they fix the issue with Steamworks where it doesn't tell you you're about to hit a point of no return in Genocide like it does at the flower enemy in Dunes?
the combat system is just a videogame abstraction meant to represent what is actually going on
the only times its meant to be taken more literally are the super boss meta fights
Can we talk about how awful the snow area is to genocide with these fricking tanks you have to kill 10 of?
just get the ice pellets so you can 2-shot them
or move up so that you can get insomnitots to start spawning, i think they have less HP/defense?
They take more damage when they come out, and monsters that are ready to be spared are really weak.
Just rush to later zones and backtrack, new spawns spawn in earlier zones too then
What happens if I drink the acid
Save and do it
I already finished the genocide route though...
Oh
It instantly game-overs you and Flowey is just completely dumbfounded
That's hilarious.
im going back in time to correct this future bratty schizo hag
Is this legit or a fan game?
It is a fan game. It's extremely good until you leave the mines.
>shitting on the wild east
you're no pardner of mine
It needs a rewrite. For example, instead of the Fiesty Five being a group of glorified bandits, maybe make them a group of quirky royal guards.
Rewrite Ceroba so that she's just a side character and make her Starlo's wife. Get rid of the stupid plot of Chujin and Kanako.
toby fox made it all by himself while he was in his hyperbolic development chamber while the rest of his team was working on deltarune
what do you think jackass
Imagine if Flowey didn't revive you.
Imagine the genocidal maniac's reign of justice-terror just ends out of nowhere because the kid decided to down a bottle of hydrochloric acid. Imagine the sheer confusion of everyone still alive.
>waiting on top of a building
>all my friends died before my eyes to a human
>ready to risk everything to bring true justice
>the human finally arrives
>I turn around, ready to give a speech which I rehearsed about 20 times
>they suddenly whip out a bottle of pure hydraulic acid
>mfw they chug it right in front of me and die instantly
Imagine if you just shot Ceroba in Steamworks and told her "I know your plan b***h and I'm coming for your daughter too"
the confusion on her face, the absolute despair knowing she was going to lose her only child, everything.
this except i shoot her with cum and make it clear that i am CUMMING for her daughter too
It isn't just because I'm not a furry and I found her so unlikeable that I don't even want her raped. You actually are being annoying.
meds time
do the monsters not have toilets
LateGOD here, how do I free this guy?
Buy hot coffee from the resort
Give coffee to white deer thing to the east of the resort, get glove
Give glove to bug thing next to the hot spring, get map
Give map to the couple way back where you entered Snowdin at, get matches
Go all the way back to the white deer and give her the matches, get lukewarm coffee
Give lukewarm coffee to the bunny who is stuck
how tf do I go back to snowdin from desert area?
you get the ability to fast travel at the mail places at basically the end of the dunes
otherwise, you don't
if you're confused about one of the steps from that guy's guide, he meant the honeydew inn, not the oasis cafe or anything
ty
I had no idea this was a thing. When the coffee didn't work I figured he'd be stuck there until Undertale. You actually get a scene during the credits of him still stuck to the pole
long ass process
keep going until you reach a resort and buy coffee
on the right of the resort theres a deer, give them the coffee
go left of the resort and give the mittens you got from the deer to the and
go back to the beginning and give the snowdin map you got from the and to the couple
give the flint to the deer again
get the coffee and free the guy
Flowey wouldn't say that
ah but causing the human extintion is OK
so it's Dalv sending shitton of porn?
its just corn
He's sending Child corn
Clover should be sending "FRICKING have a nice day" to his own phone
>Martlet
>not "I NEED wiener Clover"
I CAN FIX HER
You need few to make a sympathetic protagonist.
Well, guess I'll just die!
If I were Flowey I'd just have given up and let Clover die for good once he chugged the acid. Flowey may not have a soul but his unwavering patience outweighs whatever the Cyan kid had that's for fricking sure
Why does Clover kill themselves at the end?
Asgore doesn't need for the humans to be dead to cross the barrier. Actually Clover doesn't even know much about the whole situation so why take such an insane fricking move right there? Clover could easily live hidden in the Underground since the monsters love them so much already.
Also if you're going to die anyways why not try saving Ceroba's kid? She was so fricking desperate she fought you with everything she had, so it could be worth a shot to actually try and save Kanako. Clover knows the situation with Asgore is hopeless so why give him what he wants and bring monsters closer to starting a suicidal war with the humans?
Whyyy
the ending was rushed, and we all have to deal with it.
I'm seriously considering trying a very small single area fangame that's essentially the True Lab segment I'm almost sure it was cut
Frisk opens the barrier while alive. It only needs the human souls present. So does clover in the genocide Ending. Asgore said he was going to kill the humans to motivate the monsters and give them hope that he would avenge them
>Frisk opens the barrier while alive.
that was asriel who opened the barrier using the already dead 6 human souls + every monster soul though
>6 human souls + every monster soul
Random question, but if the monster's souls returned to them after Asriel did his thing, then would the human souls theoretically do the same?
if you return to the coffin room after the true ending in Undertale all the coffins are open
So does that imply the kids get revived and left?
probably, or just that they had to be opened so that Asgore could take the souls
I don't think they were keeping the souls in there, man.
Maybe. If you go to the coffin room in the epilogue. the coffins are open and there aren't any bodies inside. Maybe they were inside and preserved so the souls returned to them and they left.
A secret post epilogue scene of Clover waking up at the end and running to reunite with Martilet and the others would had been kino.
>A secret post epilogue scene of Clover waking up at the end and running to reunite with Martilet and the others would had been kino.
>Clover wakes up
>Runs outside to find their friends
>Searches the underground
>Finds the Wild East town destroyed and Ceroba's Estate replaced with a grave shrine
It wouldn't have been that long between Clover and Frisk falling down, so I think Ceroba would still be alive by then. Unfortunately.
Ceroba has actual reasons to An-hero herself after that true pacifist ending though
A-At least he'd still have Martlet right bros...?
hopefully yes so he can smash her fricking skull with a sledgehammer
I mean if Martlet or Ceroba are still alive that's fine for Clover but what the frick are the other kids gonna do if that's the case.
Imagine being a kid falling into the underground and being scared out of your fricking mind by all the crazy shit, killing monsters out of fear and self-preservation before getting killed yourself only to spend hundreds or so years as a bodiless soul (possibly still conscious of this horrible fate) and then getting brought back to life after both human and monster civilizations are completely changed. No, family, no friends, no nothing. Probably better if they were just allowed to pass on.
That's what Toriel is for. It even ties into the fact that she becomes a teacher in the golden ending.
>then would the human souls theoretically do the same?
I'd expect them to, yes. If they had a body to return to.
Who knows, maybe Asriel restored their body whilst divine? You'd expect to see them, though.
There's a difference between going through the barrier and destroying it, in yellow geno you see clover grab asgores soul and simply walk through it, leaving it in place.
In undertale neutral you take asgores soul and leave, and pacifist the barrier is only destroyed because of asriel animu bullshit using the 6 souls and literally every soul of the monster in the underground.
>I'm seriously considering trying a very small single area fangame that's essentially the True Lab segment I'm almost sure it was cut
I've been thinking the same thing but as a modded 4th ending. Glad I'm not the only one who thinks the same way.
now kiss- I mean, work together
>Small single area fangame
do it, get the ball rolling.
go on.
Alright, frick it, I'm gonna do it. Gonna have to learn some spritemaking but thankfully the overworld sprites are already done
And I'll do it in Godot because FRICK gamemaker and I want to do some 2D-3D bullshit with the fight.
Best of luck buddy. Don't accidentally recruit a team of competent autists to rewrite the game now. That would be terrible.
Thanks. I'm only making a small section and if I'm calling anyone to help its gonna be with music or art because I already know exactly what I'm going to write and do with this
>Godot
Well, I was going to use gamemaker itself to mod my ending to the actual game. I have absolutely zero experience in gamedev or a work ethic, but I guess I gotta start somewhere. Hope your work goes well on your end, dude.
>Asgore doesn't need for the humans to be dead to cross the barrier.
Does he not? I would figure he would be more open to the idea of not murdering you undertale if that wasn't the case.
>Clover could easily live hidden in the Underground since the monsters love them so much already.
It's awkward, like it expects the player to have done Neutral and know what it costs to try and protect Clover, but I accepted it. He doesn't want some other kid to get sacrificed instead.
>why not try saving Ceroba's kid
Now, this was bullshit. It was the perfect justification for the sacrifice and they pissed it away. You didn't need a whole heart to make a blue syringe so you shouldn't need a whole heart to make a yellow syringe. A sample for the vixen, the rest to open the gate. It was also an opportunity to have Ceroba redeem herself by going from "I HAVE TO DO THIS" to "YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS"
Man, this just killed any motivation I had to keep going through this. That should have been in a spoiler tag. Absolutely pointless playthrough now.
>Playing a fangame about one of the DEAD KIDS Asgore was gathering to break the barrier.
I understand the frustration but still, your brain doesn't work if you didn't realize the game was rigged from the start.
It was obvious Clover would die yes but not from suicide. Not the same anon but I went in expecting it to end on an unwinnable Asgore fight
Boy do I have news for you then!
You can still get that in one of the endings, which is funnily enough not the true ending of this game meaning this game's canon contradicts UT canon
There were much better ways to do it than having him commit suicide while being cheered on by Ceroba, Starlo, and Martlet.
WHICH IS WHY EVERYONE IS SO FRICKING MAD AT IT. IT FRICKING SUCKS AND MAKES NO SENSE ARGHHHHHH
NOBODY LIKES THE ENDING. IT REQUIRES YOU TO HAVE ZERO BRAIN.
starlo and martlet try to talk clover out of it though
Initially, yes, but then Ceroba convinces them and they start cheering Clover on. It's moronic.
It works if you accept that Clover had already decided this on his own. Everyone explicitly tells him not to do it, but the littlest deputy was going to save them all and there wasn't a damn thing any of them could do about it.
You're absolutely right about Ceroba being the wrong one to say it. Her characterization is way too inconsistent. I've said it before but going in the jar should have left enough yellow to save Kanako, which is more than Ceroba deserves and that should have made her the most distraught out of all of them. Going from the coldest b***h to the one most broken up over this would have made her character way more tolerable.
>save them all
from being killed by humans in Asgore's war?????
Clover didn't save them from anything from his POV.
Isn't the idea that Asgore would become as strong as Asriel (infinite attack and defense) and kill all of humanity by himself?
He can't even beat a pacifist child. An army of human adults would genocide the monsters easily.
Yeah but this would happen after he absorbs the 7 human souls, which would make him unkillable like Asriel
I was talking about Asriel.
From the three of them being killed by Asgore in Asgore's war, for starters. We know what would have happened to Martlet.
But it wasn't conveyed very well. There really should have been a scene in Pacifist where Flowey rubs his nose in that. Clover's decision would have made more sense.
Going to Asgore for an unwinnable battle would have made much more sense.
Different anon here, but it being an undertale fangame, I was half-hoping there would be an alternate, hypothetical non-genocide ending where Clover lives somehow. Would it be non-canon? Clearly, but the whole fan-game was never canon to begin with.
FILE 1 OVERWRITTEN
AAAACK HOW DO I BUILD UP ENOUGH MOMENTUM FOR THE LAST JUMP
Keep the first two level so that the ball doesn't bump into something, then raise the third while the ball is on it.
Is it worth replaying the fight to see what happens when you kill her or should I just watch it on youtube?
watch it on youtube because its disappointing
I see. Still doesn't give Clover a good reason to let Asgore get closer to his insane war and kill themselves (since there's absolutely no way in hell Clover knows about Frisk doing Asriel Ex Machina and letting the monsters free peacefully)
Why would a fricking child think of doing that anyways. Why did Ceroba/Martlet have a heart container with them
Specifically with Clover killing himself under the Sakura tree, yeah it's dumb.
The game honestly should have ended with Asgore quietly confiding in Clover his plans for peace with humanity and an end to the "war".
They tried to do a bitter sweet ending that tied into the cannon but no matter what way you cut it, it makes zero sense for him to just kill himself and let the Asgore, who hes been told by multiple people wants to start a war with humanity once he's free, get one step closer to freedom.
The Flowey argument of him forcing him to chose that path due to eternal resets doesn't make sense either since Clover doesn't keep any of his memories on reset, therefore he'd have no clue he's even stuck.
man, the tracking on martle's claws is fricking bullshit, i've been stuck on 1-2 turns left to win for almost two hours now.
>YOU ARE THE HERO
>I AM INTEGRITY
>THIS IS THE MELTDOWN
>OF YOUR MORALITY
>YOUR FIGHT FOR JUSTICE TURNS TO ASHES, CLOOOOVEEEEER MAAAAAN
I DISBELIEVE YOU!!! TAKE THIS ULTIMATE TOUHOU ATTACK!!!!!!! BAD TIME!!!!
boo hoo stupid bird
>could have made a fun AU take
make a messed up prequel with a shitty ending since clover wasn't the chosen one
How long until someone makes a fricking Stronger Than You for Martlet?
sooner than you'd think
Where's the flint at? I need to kill the fox b***h again so i can enter no mercy finale with gunpowder
UTY genocide is better than UT genocide because it feels like there is a satisfying reason why clover would do it, that is to actually save the souls of the dead children and enact revenge on the monsters for killing them.
tobys silence is deafening...
The next newsletter will be dedicated to his new partnership with Nintendo, ending off with a surprise C&D notice towards the devs of UTY
>t.flowey
do the other routes explain autistc guy from the first dungeon?
no
he's just there
yeah they're in the containers so its quite probably they just returned and left
no, I think he was just a carry over from when they first made the demo.
i thought he was supposed to be a former human or something
why do fans never give Neutral Routes justice?
https://undertale.fandom.com/wiki/Neutral_Route
Because it's debatably the hardest thing to do in an RPG, which is already deceptively difficult to do.
God look at this smug b***h I want to frick her so bad
I wouldn't frick a squirrel but her voice effect was super cute. I wish the four had a longer battle
We just need to compile a list of missed opportunities and writing tweaks.
undertale cyan
>falling down through the mountain actually really hurts since the flowers most likely haven't grown into a nice bed
>something notices this.
>it's coming for you. very slowly.
>sneaking around as Ribbon the goemon wannabe lets you progress through the ruins.
>it catches you eventually.
>you wake up in bed, your ribbon replaced with a head bandage.
>Toriel stops being a shadowy figure, and offers you safety, allowing you to stay for as long as you wish.
>refusing comes with a condition.
>she will personally accompany you to your destination. with enough patience you will have the opportunity to ditch her, or allow her to tag along the entire game.
>accepting however ends the game. if you never saved, you are given an ending:
>you live a peaceful life, there in the ruins. you learn to bake, sew, make furniture and garden and then die of natural causes.
>With no place to bury you, she carries you to be buried alongside her other children.
>He
CANCELLED
there's a FUN event in the Estate basement where Chujin's face pops up on the TV as a gag, but it could play in the flashbacks as well
Replace Flowey and Starlo with Ceroba and Clover, respectively, and have the third panel be that one Gaurdener robot with a pistol.
>Clover vs. Sundown from Live A Live
Who would win?
Clover spooks Sundown's horse, leaving him stranded in the desert, and rides off into the sunset on a fireproof horse monster
in 1.1 you can get a seemingly infinite supply of corn chowder from ceroba's fridge.
not very useful considering it only heals 15 hp but very funny.
Bug or not, that's actually pretty funny. With all the corn Starlo's parents make and give out, it'd be funny to imagine she just made so many Corn Chowder's to the point her fridge is full of it.
Whats the deal with the mask
Why does Ceroba turn into a boss monster when she uses it
is Kanako the mask? Kanako is a boss monster so does Ceroba putting the mask on turn her into a boss monster?
pic unrelated
I'm assuming that Kanako's condition almost rendered her into dust, spread on the mask.
That's what the mask is
That's what the point of the mask is
I now feel far more justified not giving her what she wants.
Quick, what is the most memorable song in Undertale Yellow?
There are no rules. It can even be the Medium remix.
I find myself humming Axis's theme and Justice (Game Over) more than anything else
Showdown
El Bailador's song because I had to hear it restart over and over
Otherwise, Showdown
El Bailador's music. I still can't find the one that plays during the actual dance sections.
danza_attack_01_yellow.ogg through danza_attack_10_yellow.ogg
Thank you.
Showdown!
it's stuck in my head
A Mother's Love, but SPECIFICALLY the 2nd half of it (the one that plays in the 4th phase). The first half kinda sucks, but that SAVE the World melody goes hard.
If we're talking full songs though, Showdown for sure.
This one feels underrated
The miner area leitmotif is burned into my head from how much it was reused in that part of the game
I want to say Axis's Pacifist battle theme, Guns Blazing, but that could never beat the power to the Steamworks restoring to its own area music:
>the Steamworks restoring to its own area music
I'm not in love with the game's soundtrack in a vacuum, but the timing was fricking amazing. Stuff like this and the entirety of the El Bailador were just so good.
I like Martlet's themes. They're pretty catchy.
Decibat's theme got stuck in my head for some reason.
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i find myself humming/whistling this a lot subconciously.
Anything Axis related
Someone should draw this but with Clover in the Axis genocide fight.
Question, can I do something to fix the time-perception of the grandfather clock, and if so how far do I have to progress before I can?
You can't, he's just there as a space filler NPC. There is something else you can do in his room, however, if you have enough gold.
You mean as in money or the golden items?
The latter, yes. [spoiler]Probably should've clarified.[/spoiler]
I have 3 of them, pear coffee and cactus. I know there's supposed to be 4, did I already miss it and I should have had all 4 already or will I get it during Steamworks?
The 4th is already there.
Do I have to keep progressing before something appears in his room or what's the deal here?
Don't worry about the fourth item, it's already where its supposed to be with the others.
Where are the pear and coffee? I never saw them on my playthrough.
>pear
in the ruins, there are cracks in the walls shaped like numbers, number 5 is the earliest and number 1 is the last you find, you have to press them from 1 to 5 so going backwards, then on the dark cave area the top right blockade of spiky rocks will go away
>coffee
behind the inn, there's a hidden path going up
Should also mention that if you didn't get the pear, you're shit outta luck and have to restart the entire game.
Are you guys writing any stories or AU autism stuff like me? Undertale always fills me with story ideas after I've been exposed to it. Its like radiation, side effects and all
toby fox's previous online name was fwugradiation so it checks out.
>erm, what did you just call me?
Toby "Don't call me Toby "FwugRadiation" Fox" "FwugRadiation" Fox
I might consider writing stuff with the characters. I got a couple ideas but nothing fully fleshed out yet. Besides, no clue where I'd put them.
>I WAS FORCED TO NEUTRALIZE THAT HUMAN.
>Have genocided Steamworks 3 times
So tired of this place
I autismmaxxed a v1.1 genocide run, anyone want the file?
You can do it. I'm trying to learn game music currently
Meant to reply here
Best of luck to your projects too. I actually already do game dev as a hobby but my stuff is all 3D
I know the Omega Flowey fight in this game is spectacular but man the Neutral Ending is so fricking underwhelming. You can't even fight Asgore in it
I refuse to play this just because of the cringe furry weeb OC, what is the justification for the main character killing himself, thus contributing to the eventual possible destruction of humanity? (it didn't happen but he doesn't know that)
Anon, Undertale has cringe furry weeb OCs
Wait until you see Asriel!
Asriel is very different just because the game is selfaware it's a kid's cringe OC with the stupidest names for his moves
>I refuse to play this just because of the cringe furry weeb OC
pacifist/genocide routes would be too hard for you anyways
Honestly it seems they simply forgot and took for Granted that the whole "war" thing was just Asgore keeping morale up for his actual plan of seeking peace with humanity and ending the conflict that you'd know if you came to the game out of Undertale.
As a fan of Undertale and Deltarune to the point where it inspired me to become a not NEET, I cannot actually recommend this game. The sprites are pretty, the music is nice.
The writing is milquetoast and the characters are completely moronic with ALMOST zero redeeming qualities.
It is a solid 5/10, through and through.
I thought of playing just the neutral route because everyone says the final boss is kino but i don't know if i could play through what seems to be a mediocre game just for a cool final boss
oh my fricking god, okay.
The game IS good for the most part. I will give it that. Genuinely most of the problems people have with it are the final segments of the pacifist route
The majority of anons in these threads enjoyed the game until the final pacifist boss. You're doing yourself a disservice.
It's hard being a pacifistgay. Nobody likes to actually write tragedies, let alone tragedies that make sense and have catharsis.
Anon here's a link to a neutral save file if you just want to play the final boss
https://mega.nz/file/26YERIpa#mUb1xYqpdpo6kw8xQdLeKgsisI0zbXlpoHBeDa-Lig4
Why thank you very much
killing dancing guy was so cathartic
I think it makes sense that he would kill himself in the end and give their soul up, at least at the end of pure pacifist, given the circumstances.
why?
No it doesn't. Clover keeping his gun holstered because he doesn't really need to use it doesn't mean that he is willing to kill himself.
The part that fricked up my enjoyment of the Ceroba fight (besides the plot issues and untested bullet combos that I assume was fixed in 1.1) most was the fact it had 4 phases
That's beyond excessive even for a final boss
I hope you are ready for Gaster's 7 phase battle in Deltarune
KH2 Xemnas had like 6 phases and they were all great and different.
Ceroba's 4 phases on top of the cutscenes are all basically the same
Does moronbird have any unqiue dialogue from the talk option on neutral once she starts following you?
Play ZeroRanger instead
it's like if Undertale was good
Undertale >> Undertale Yellow >>>>> Deltarune Chapter 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deltarune Chapter 1
The dream we all share > everything else
I don't know if you understand what you've just said but you've done a great job explaining it.
so Kanako is an amalgamate now right
and she's a boss monster
why didn't Clover go to her and kill her to get enough XP/LV to defeat Asgore
ceroba put her in a cartridge
I think this game is very high quality but the final bosses for pacifist and genocide suffer from something many Undertale fangames suffer from, they don't know when an attack should end.
in Undertale and Deltarune attacks are short, quick, unique and to the point, the only one that breaks this is Sans' last move but it is meant to be the hardest one in the game. Fans seem to base many attack on this one which doesn't work for me
That and some of these attacks are just unreactable, Fricking bird and her unpredictable claw swipes that deliberately throw you off
Is the neutral ending affected by who lives or dies at all?
no. There's a single scene if you kill Starlo in specific You can go to his house and find Ceroba alerting his family that he's missing
do the monsters in yellow even mention asgore's big dumb gay war
I'm so glad I played through the pacifist route before letting any negative nancies influence my opinion on it. I thought it was great. 🙂
same
like damn I agree the story wasn't perfect but the hyperbolic anons nitpicking everything are something else
undertale has plotholes and stupid moments too
Don't worry, it's probably just one or two autists anyways.
Same, and only pacifist. But I had a thought going through my head the entire time:
>Jee, aren't these characters a little lacking in character?
Starlo, Starlo's gang, Martlet, they're fine. Everyone else just seems stunted and inconsistent. The biggest offender was Ceroba by far. No foreshadowing for her betrayal, no emotional connection to make the betrayal MEAN something, nothing. Dalv was just sort of there. The random encounter monsters lacked something special that they had in Undertale. It felt like you were playing around with the monsters in Undertale, while in Yellow it's just like a cold analysis.
So no, I was poisoned by my own thoughts the entire playthrough.
Did you use the Talk option when traveling with a companion?
Oh whoops, no I didn't.
I thought that was only an option after getting Martlet for the final climb.
I put the feisty four's beat tracks all in one song and it sounds pretty nice.
Post please
https://files.catbox.moe/d53lrr.mp3
Epic
This is great.
Imagine if there was a boss fight on genocide where all of them teamed up against Clover.
https://files.catbox.moe/rm6k35.png
Based superior final boss putting the inferior final boss in her place
She's so unlikeable that she isn't even worth raping.
Flowey did it so you don’t have to
Can you kill the four spazzes in neutral or can you not do enough damage before the end no matter how much you grind?
you can't
Funny, if you max out your attack, he turns into Dalv while he dies and then the cutscene plays as normal after
>The four morons gang up on Clover
>Starlo saved their lives, not Clover's
kek
Does this game have the thing from Deltarune where you can hold down C to skip dialogue?
no. Enjoy pressing Z
Can you at least alternate between z and x like in Undertale?
Yes
Good enough for me, i shall try it and skip scenes if i get tired of the story
Has anyone done genocide final boss with the patch yet? Phase 1 still has no heals
WELCOME TO THE UNDERGROUND
>people are already making AUs of the AU
oh no
behead Kanako
Wild Revolver is forced difficulty
it's not even that hard once you get used to it, it's the exact same timing as the normal gun, you just keep doing it until you've done 6 hits instead of 1/2/3 hits
Prove that you're good at using Wild Revolver by reading this
It’s easy but if you go from pacifist to genocide, it’s poorly explained since you use it once on a dummy then have to fricking fight the second hardest boss in the game with it