Hasbro is seeing what they can get away with, if people consume UB like they seem to be, Hasbro will continue to make even greedier and greedier products until people stop buying.
No because it keeps selling. Magic players fricking love this shit, last time I went to my LGS after the LOTR set came out fricking everyone was playing Aragorn or Frodo with straight faces. When it stops selling they'll stop doing it.
I could see 40k, Dr who, lotr being fine to bring into the universe because lots of players love those other IPs. But fortnite???? Jeff goldblum??? Too far.
That's goalpost moving. The OP question was "Is this going to be the last hurrah for Magic?" The provided answer was 'no, because it's making money'.
At no point did anyone mention quality until you came around.
That's partially true but you claiming that magic is totally doing well by appealing to the mass market when total "mass market" sales have obviously been approximately zero and magic is clearly tanking is moronic and disingenuous. No, this isn't fortnight where a Chun li skin makes money because of streamers and coomers and teenagers and a few street fighter fans this is a stinky nerd game that no amount of troony dr who cards will ever sell more copies of. No fricking lord of the rings fan bought packs because they love Tolkien.
it made a billion dollars last fiscal year
the lotr set was one of their most sold sets
you're simply delusional like the people who claim blizzard will die any day now
no, they aren't dying, they're making more money than ever, magic is in fact the only successful ip hasbro has. You desperately want them to fail because you wish to be "right" ideologically.
You rage at magic because its successful reveals that regardless of your seethe you >don't know what success actually is >have no concept of money >have no idea what quality actually is
get over it, the ip will never die
>It feels like Hasbro is just cashing out on their IP.
It would be, if Magic fanboys weren't literally moronic and weren't currently eating it up like pancakes.
No. This is where Hasbro makes all their cash. It worked in the comic industry. What will die is competitive magic and the old crowd. Just like western comics there is less readers(but publishers make big bucks and creators make more than the average mangaka) and more collectors going for variants. Just how it's gonna be. Pick up sorcery when it comes out or board games. You won't convince your average magic player to play a new format that bans the problematic sets.
Depends on how you mean "worked". The comic industry is just barely staying afloat, stretching their business model as far as it will go to keep their faces above the water. What was the headline from a couple years back? That the entire western comics industry got outsold by a single manga title? Yeah, I'm not sure the comics industry is "working".
Honestly, western comics seem like a withered vestigial organ as their IPs find more success in other mediums.
The collector's bubble crashed the US comic market hard, bruv. While the scene is still alive, the market was crippled and changed into a monopolistic B2B model financed by specialized stores selling non-book goods to make up the losses generated by stocking comics from the monopoly provider.
As painful as it can be to admit, mass market is moronic. Making good games is partially an ideological choice, because having integrity and standards means consciously making less money than you could be making. If an IP is owned be a publicly traded company, it's products will almost certainly be shit for the core hobbyists, but moronic consoomers will always be a more financially desirable demographic.
That's partially true but you claiming that magic is totally doing well by appealing to the mass market when total "mass market" sales have obviously been approximately zero and magic is clearly tanking is moronic and disingenuous. No, this isn't fortnight where a Chun li skin makes money because of streamers and coomers and teenagers and a few street fighter fans this is a stinky nerd game that no amount of troony dr who cards will ever sell more copies of. No fricking lord of the rings fan bought packs because they love Tolkien.
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Bro, scan them and post them so we can print them off. I read a few and they look like gold
I have a folder and .xml made for wieneratrice, so I could do that, but what's the point
You'd still be feeding out of someone else's work.
You, as in every tcg players need to get off this system and make their own from scratch.
Let's say I do, where should I post them ? Vola ? >I read a few and they look like gold
Thanks, c'est rare de tomber sur des francophones
You can play with custom cards on wieneratrice and I'm pretty sure you can set it up on tts too.
That and if you never try to be social and find friend in a game where you need to interact with other humans welll... the problem ain't WotC but yourself
Cube with full custom cards is the only way I see to divorce from WotC. Cube levels the field between player, and custom cards says screw you to WotC
I have over 200 custom cards myself (and waiting for a new batch), I began by making my own drawings but now I use AI and order the cards online, they look better than real cards.
It's not so much the lore but more that something is recognizably MTG.
The Elder Scrolls isn't that unique either but you're going to notice it when somebody mods in Spongebob or Batman.
The most annoying thing about this pic isn't even the crossovers, it's that sicko mode sounds 100% like a named mechanic they'd print nowadays and you can bet Travis Scott wouldn't even fit a reminder text for what it does in its bloated textbox.
Hasbro is seeing what they can get away with, if people consume UB like they seem to be, Hasbro will continue to make even greedier and greedier products until people stop buying.
>if people consume UB like they seem to be
Why wouldn't we? It's the best color combo.
No because it keeps selling. Magic players fricking love this shit, last time I went to my LGS after the LOTR set came out fricking everyone was playing Aragorn or Frodo with straight faces. When it stops selling they'll stop doing it.
Honestly, it more about how good the card is, rather than what is on it. And they're pretty good cards.
They're cutting product. They're combining draft and regular boosters and the cost will increase. Probably other stuff as well soon enough.
I could see 40k, Dr who, lotr being fine to bring into the universe because lots of players love those other IPs. But fortnite???? Jeff goldblum??? Too far.
You ask this every year, and every years sales just increase.
Yeah, McDonald's is five-star gourmet, and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
That's goalpost moving. The OP question was "Is this going to be the last hurrah for Magic?" The provided answer was 'no, because it's making money'.
At no point did anyone mention quality until you came around.
No it isn't making money you fricking israelite why the frick are you lying to defend a megacorp run by j... oh wait
it made a billion dollars last fiscal year
the lotr set was one of their most sold sets
you're simply delusional like the people who claim blizzard will die any day now
no, they aren't dying, they're making more money than ever, magic is in fact the only successful ip hasbro has. You desperately want them to fail because you wish to be "right" ideologically.
You rage at magic because its successful reveals that regardless of your seethe you
>don't know what success actually is
>have no concept of money
>have no idea what quality actually is
get over it, the ip will never die
>sales increase
Yes, but revenue is going down. Because the costs are increasing, since they are releasing a shitton of products.
It's a speculative bubble, like beanie babies.
Cashing in implies that they are sacrificing long term gain for short term gain. I don't know how banning witches and druids helps them in anyway.
They should have just made a silver-boarder format.
>It feels like Hasbro is just cashing out on their IP.
It would be, if Magic fanboys weren't literally moronic and weren't currently eating it up like pancakes.
unfortunately magic is going to keep going. It's just that now it's not a game for the players. It's a product to sell to """collectors"""
at this point magic the gathering is a game system more than just a game.
its a way to play.
i bet you could play magic with a deck of playing cards.
people had invested a ton on money to just throw away the game because it's making Rugrats Secret Lair
I honestly pitty MTG players
they are on an abusive relatinship and can't leave
"""invested"""
If you got fooled into paying more than ten cents for a piece of inked cardboard that's your fault.
It is cashing out. Literally hard pressing the game for what little juice it has
No. This is where Hasbro makes all their cash. It worked in the comic industry. What will die is competitive magic and the old crowd. Just like western comics there is less readers(but publishers make big bucks and creators make more than the average mangaka) and more collectors going for variants. Just how it's gonna be. Pick up sorcery when it comes out or board games. You won't convince your average magic player to play a new format that bans the problematic sets.
Oh yeah the comic industry is doing so well
Isn’t it?
Even the "best selling" modern comic book titles sell less than "poor performing" titles of 1 to 2 decades ago.
I'd love to see statistics on this. It's not that I disbelieve you, it's that I just want to see the numbahs.
The entire US comics industry was outsold by a single manga.
>It worked in the comic industry
Depends on how you mean "worked". The comic industry is just barely staying afloat, stretching their business model as far as it will go to keep their faces above the water. What was the headline from a couple years back? That the entire western comics industry got outsold by a single manga title? Yeah, I'm not sure the comics industry is "working".
Honestly, western comics seem like a withered vestigial organ as their IPs find more success in other mediums.
>publishers make big bucks
Not from selling comics moron
The collector's bubble crashed the US comic market hard, bruv. While the scene is still alive, the market was crippled and changed into a monopolistic B2B model financed by specialized stores selling non-book goods to make up the losses generated by stocking comics from the monopoly provider.
>What will die is competitive magic and the old crowd
And nothing of value was lost.
This thread exists so that I could find and save this image
As painful as it can be to admit, mass market is moronic. Making good games is partially an ideological choice, because having integrity and standards means consciously making less money than you could be making. If an IP is owned be a publicly traded company, it's products will almost certainly be shit for the core hobbyists, but moronic consoomers will always be a more financially desirable demographic.
That's partially true but you claiming that magic is totally doing well by appealing to the mass market when total "mass market" sales have obviously been approximately zero and magic is clearly tanking is moronic and disingenuous. No, this isn't fortnight where a Chun li skin makes money because of streamers and coomers and teenagers and a few street fighter fans this is a stinky nerd game that no amount of troony dr who cards will ever sell more copies of. No fricking lord of the rings fan bought packs because they love Tolkien.
How confused would US consumers be if they'd be selling Euro-Disney events and crossover event-themed sets?
Uh oh, kino alert
Thanks
I have a folder and .xml made for wieneratrice, so I could do that, but what's the point
You'd still be feeding out of someone else's work.
You, as in every tcg players need to get off this system and make their own from scratch.
Let's say I do, where should I post them ? Vola ?
>I read a few and they look like gold
Thanks, c'est rare de tomber sur des francophones
>tfw struggling to learn French parce que la CAQ l’exige
J’essaie, mais j’ai parfois l’impression qu’ils préfèrent que je parte complètement.
Bro, scan them and post them so we can print them off. I read a few and they look like gold
I'm torn because I think the process is garbage but the designs are interesting.
What if i dont have friends to play mtg? I rely on online services to play sad as it is
You can play with custom cards on wieneratrice and I'm pretty sure you can set it up on tts too.
That and if you never try to be social and find friend in a game where you need to interact with other humans welll... the problem ain't WotC but yourself
Cube with full custom cards is the only way I see to divorce from WotC. Cube levels the field between player, and custom cards says screw you to WotC
I have over 200 custom cards myself (and waiting for a new batch), I began by making my own drawings but now I use AI and order the cards online, they look better than real cards.
I mean really at the end of the day what's interesting in MtG's setting?
People don't want to admit that most of Magics lore is bad anyway
It's not so much the lore but more that something is recognizably MTG.
The Elder Scrolls isn't that unique either but you're going to notice it when somebody mods in Spongebob or Batman.
The most annoying thing about this pic isn't even the crossovers, it's that sicko mode sounds 100% like a named mechanic they'd print nowadays and you can bet Travis Scott wouldn't even fit a reminder text for what it does in its bloated textbox.
Of course not, as long as the paypiggies keep coming back to the trough the slop will flow.