It's a fat boar standing up. What's wrong with it? And flames on every pokemon look tacked on, because creatures naturally aren't supposed to disperse fire from their body parts all the time.
>It's a fat boar standing up.
It's an egg. I know Pignite is egg shaped too, but it also has a wider face to compensate for its lack of a neck. This redesigned Emboar has basically no face to speak of, NO TUSKS, tube arms with no elbows, and a micro torso. The real Emboar has a weird fire beard and it looks 10x more naturally than whatever shitty lopsided X the OP image has. It looks like a first draft.
>STOP MAKING POKEMON THAT ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE POKEMON
>fat pokemon that are well designed
Correct, that is a good design.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>pokemon that specializes in fighting needs to be shaped exactly the same as a pokemon that's known for being a lazy fatass that eats and sleeps all day
Amazing.
9 months ago
Anonymous
that specializes in fighting needs to be shaped exactly the same as a pokemon that's known for being a lazy fatass
Except they already made fat fighting Pokemon that are well designed and don't have the most moronic proportions imaginable. Try again.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>hariyama >well designed
please be bait
9 months ago
Anonymous
>simple, coherent design you can instantly tell the point of
vs >fat overdesigned pig with moron lanky arms and a barely visible no neck face with a tacked on fire beard and random stripes slapped on it for no discernable reason
Correct.
>people calling this well designed just to shit on Emboar
It's supposed to be a sumo pokemon that arm thrusts it's opponents, yet it's arms are too short to even do that. Also, that big ass ears for no reason.
>yet it's arms are too short
Its arms are "short" to sell its bulky appearance and emphasize its massive hands and slapping fighting style. Something Emboar massively fails at.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Even that guy's arms is longer than Hariyama. You can still be bulky and have long arms, anon. All Hariyama can do is block.
9 months ago
Anonymous
What do you mean, i think these can punch just fine.
9 months ago
Anonymous
But it's at a disadvantage in a close combat match. Long arms is actually ideal for a fighter because it means you can beat up your opponent without being hurt yourself. You can't close the distance with short arms.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>You can't close the distance with short arms
Of course you can its called rolling and also >trying to insert real life into magical monster fighting
9 months ago
Anonymous
to insert real life into magical monster fighting
agreed, i hate it when people do that
9 months ago
Anonymous
That wasnt really what i was going after, more like they all can shoot magic energy so not having long arms isnt really a disadvantage.
9 months ago
Anonymous
except hariyama is a fighting type and its moves are centered around physically fighting. with its body.
your justification applies more to samurott because it's a mixed attacker with a slant towards the special.
9 months ago
Anonymous
See? Now, they got to defend Samurott's swordfighting in order to defend Hariyama's short arms in close combat.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>in order to defend Hariyama's short arms in close combat
Say that to Mike Tyson.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Mike Tyson
A muscular human with normal human length arms.
9 months ago
Anonymous
A human who is fighting humans who have longer reach
A pokemon with "shorter" arms fighting other pokemon who might not even have arms. I dont really see the problem or anything that needs "justification"
9 months ago
Anonymous
hariyama's arms are not long enough to reach past its massive thighs
9 months ago
Anonymous
?
9 months ago
Anonymous
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah reach looks fine.
Mike Tyson's arms are way longer than Hariyama's. Hariyama's arms are just too short with unusually big hands. All it can do is block attacks with it's hands. Honestly, this is something that Iron Hands fixes because it's hands are floating and detached from the main body. Making it possible to see it reach large gaps to push it's opponents.
I mean you can just google Hairyama anime fights and see him punching just fine.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Just one look at it fighting in the anime and I notice how the anime needs to stretch Hariyama's arms to attack and even then, Treecko kept dodging. Afterwards, it proceeds to job to Treecko. Bravo, such a amazing pokemon design.
9 months ago
Anonymous
So just like normal person in fighting? You know, move your shoulder on the front so you get longer reach? Pretty simple when punching. Also i dont think Hariyama would be any better in anime even if he had longer arms or do you really believe just couple centimeters to his reach would give him legendary status? You are also moving the goalpost from not being able to attack to not being able to win against the protagonist
9 months ago
Anonymous
Mike Tyson's arms are way longer than Hariyama's. Hariyama's arms are just too short with unusually big hands. All it can do is block attacks with it's hands. Honestly, this is something that Iron Hands fixes because it's hands are floating and detached from the main body. Making it possible to see it reach large gaps to push it's opponents.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>simple description to make the mon seem reasonable
vs. >VERY LONG DESCRIPTION THAT DESCRIBES EVERY ASPECT OF THE DESIGN IN GREAT DETAIL TO MAKE IT SOUND OVERDESIGNED LOOK AT ME I AM SILLY
9 months ago
Anonymous
>accurate description of pokemon
vs. >ACCURATE DESCRIPTION OF POKEMON
Correct.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>everything i said is true >never mind the obvious bias in how it's presented
the point of the design is that it's a chinese pig. it's fat because it's a pig. the ornaments sell that it is chinese. and the arms are quite bulky.
but i wouldn't expect someone who likes hariyama to comprehend that.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>the point of the design is that it's a chinese pig
What part of being a chinese pig requires having moronic long limbs and no neck? Last I checked, pigs had both of those.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>arms are "short" to sell its bulky appearance
looks more like a fat lump that will easily fall over trying to swing to me
9 months ago
Anonymous
>people calling this well designed just to shit on Emboar
It's supposed to be a sumo pokemon that arm thrusts it's opponents, yet it's arms are too short to even do that. Also, that big ass ears for no reason.
There's nothing wrong with the designs.
Samurott just needs to trade swordfighting for using it's horn as a weapon.
Emboar just needs to lose the Fighting type.
Do Snivygays even like Serperior? Most people that pick it only do so because they don't like the others and even then, they proceed to box it for Lillipup anyway.
Y'know, I've never seen this board get derailed from the Unova starters by another Pokemon like this. Congratulations, Hariyama, on being just that fricking shitty you got /vp/ siding with Emboar over you.
>pokemon that specializes in fighting needs to be shaped exactly the same as a pokemon that's known for being a lazy fatass that eats and sleeps all day
Amazing.
that post does not say what you say it says
"IT'S A FAT FIGHTING TYPE" isn't an argument anyone has made, because it's not an argument, you are moronic.
>that post does not say what you say it says
Yes it does.
9 months ago
Anonymous
no it doesn't. you are legitimately too dumb to comprehend the arguments against you.
9 months ago
Anonymous
The post literally says the equivalent of "it's ok that it has moronic proportions because it's a fighting type"
9 months ago
Anonymous
no, it doesn't. it's saying that emboar can't be shaped like other fatmons, because that would impede its ability to move and, you know, fight.
a big beefy pig that is probably mostly muscle is not comparable to a fat slob and a rotund tongue monster.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>it's saying that emboar can't be shaped like other fatmons, because that would impede its ability to move
That's not what the post says.
>a big beefy pig that is probably mostly muscle
Muscle doesn't justify having no neck and moronicly long arms.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>That's not what the post says.
yes it is
9 months ago
Anonymous
Please point out where in the post it says anything about movement.
9 months ago
Anonymous
it's implied
9 months ago
Anonymous
The fighting type with moronic proportions is Hariyama. >big ears >short arms >big hands >no visible mouth or nose >fat fricking thighs that look like spheres
if emboar had been any type other than fighting it wouldn't draw so much hate. the design is not top tier, but it's not that bad to get all the hate it does, especially when later generations have absolute garbage like inteleon that people drool over. it just came at a time when people expected and wanted anything but another fire/fighting starter and it's still suffering from that to this day.
Agree with samurott but what's wrong with emboar aside le fighting fire?
its proportions are moronic as frick as and its neck fire looks lazily tacked on.
It's a fat boar standing up. What's wrong with it? And flames on every pokemon look tacked on, because creatures naturally aren't supposed to disperse fire from their body parts all the time.
>It's a fat boar standing up.
It's an egg. I know Pignite is egg shaped too, but it also has a wider face to compensate for its lack of a neck. This redesigned Emboar has basically no face to speak of, NO TUSKS, tube arms with no elbows, and a micro torso. The real Emboar has a weird fire beard and it looks 10x more naturally than whatever shitty lopsided X the OP image has. It looks like a first draft.
>What's wrong with it?
>fat pokemon that are well designed
>can't reach out for anything with it's small, stubby arms
Bravo.
>STOP MAKING POKEMON THAT ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE POKEMON
Correct, that is a good design.
>pokemon that specializes in fighting needs to be shaped exactly the same as a pokemon that's known for being a lazy fatass that eats and sleeps all day
Amazing.
that specializes in fighting needs to be shaped exactly the same as a pokemon that's known for being a lazy fatass
Except they already made fat fighting Pokemon that are well designed and don't have the most moronic proportions imaginable. Try again.
>hariyama
>well designed
please be bait
>simple, coherent design you can instantly tell the point of
vs
>fat overdesigned pig with moron lanky arms and a barely visible no neck face with a tacked on fire beard and random stripes slapped on it for no discernable reason
Correct.
>yet it's arms are too short
Its arms are "short" to sell its bulky appearance and emphasize its massive hands and slapping fighting style. Something Emboar massively fails at.
Even that guy's arms is longer than Hariyama. You can still be bulky and have long arms, anon. All Hariyama can do is block.
What do you mean, i think these can punch just fine.
But it's at a disadvantage in a close combat match. Long arms is actually ideal for a fighter because it means you can beat up your opponent without being hurt yourself. You can't close the distance with short arms.
>You can't close the distance with short arms
Of course you can its called rolling and also
>trying to insert real life into magical monster fighting
to insert real life into magical monster fighting
agreed, i hate it when people do that
That wasnt really what i was going after, more like they all can shoot magic energy so not having long arms isnt really a disadvantage.
except hariyama is a fighting type and its moves are centered around physically fighting. with its body.
your justification applies more to samurott because it's a mixed attacker with a slant towards the special.
See? Now, they got to defend Samurott's swordfighting in order to defend Hariyama's short arms in close combat.
>in order to defend Hariyama's short arms in close combat
Say that to Mike Tyson.
>Mike Tyson
A muscular human with normal human length arms.
A human who is fighting humans who have longer reach
A pokemon with "shorter" arms fighting other pokemon who might not even have arms. I dont really see the problem or anything that needs "justification"
hariyama's arms are not long enough to reach past its massive thighs
?
Yeah reach looks fine.
I mean you can just google Hairyama anime fights and see him punching just fine.
Just one look at it fighting in the anime and I notice how the anime needs to stretch Hariyama's arms to attack and even then, Treecko kept dodging. Afterwards, it proceeds to job to Treecko. Bravo, such a amazing pokemon design.
So just like normal person in fighting? You know, move your shoulder on the front so you get longer reach? Pretty simple when punching. Also i dont think Hariyama would be any better in anime even if he had longer arms or do you really believe just couple centimeters to his reach would give him legendary status? You are also moving the goalpost from not being able to attack to not being able to win against the protagonist
Mike Tyson's arms are way longer than Hariyama's. Hariyama's arms are just too short with unusually big hands. All it can do is block attacks with it's hands. Honestly, this is something that Iron Hands fixes because it's hands are floating and detached from the main body. Making it possible to see it reach large gaps to push it's opponents.
>simple description to make the mon seem reasonable
vs.
>VERY LONG DESCRIPTION THAT DESCRIBES EVERY ASPECT OF THE DESIGN IN GREAT DETAIL TO MAKE IT SOUND OVERDESIGNED LOOK AT ME I AM SILLY
>accurate description of pokemon
vs.
>ACCURATE DESCRIPTION OF POKEMON
Correct.
>everything i said is true
>never mind the obvious bias in how it's presented
the point of the design is that it's a chinese pig. it's fat because it's a pig. the ornaments sell that it is chinese. and the arms are quite bulky.
but i wouldn't expect someone who likes hariyama to comprehend that.
>the point of the design is that it's a chinese pig
What part of being a chinese pig requires having moronic long limbs and no neck? Last I checked, pigs had both of those.
>arms are "short" to sell its bulky appearance
looks more like a fat lump that will easily fall over trying to swing to me
>people calling this well designed just to shit on Emboar
It's supposed to be a sumo pokemon that arm thrusts it's opponents, yet it's arms are too short to even do that. Also, that big ass ears for no reason.
>fat pokemon that are well designed
Gross
>What's wrong with it?
it's proportions are moronic as frick, did you not read the post?
ruined emboar
There's nothing wrong with the designs.
Samurott just needs to trade swordfighting for using it's horn as a weapon.
Emboar just needs to lose the Fighting type.
Its just a blue Excadrill.
Just change the original's stance and no one would complain.
>Its just a blue Excadrill.
Well designed Pokemon typically look like other Pokemon, yes.
Well designed pokemon are unique, not inferior versions of others schizo-kun
>Well designed pokemon are unique,
The design in the OP is unique.
uniquely shit
>Its just a blue Excadrill.
based ship
Funny that those two are equal in popularity
Destined mates
>this looks fine trust me guys
>Muh headcanon!
Stay wrong imbecile
What is the thing on samurott's head?
a shellmet
Samurott and Serperior are both perfect. only Emboar sucks
oh it's this Black person again
still seething over samurott
ruined samurott
Do Snivygays even like Serperior? Most people that pick it only do so because they don't like the others and even then, they proceed to box it for Lillipup anyway.
Samurott looks ugly as frick and Emboar just looks like an egg
Furries and their obsession with bipeds, gentlemen
>BIPEDALISM = FURRY!
Least smartest quadrupedhomosexual
Why do you guys even reply you can clearly see hes trolling and arguing in bad faith.
I like egging people like that on to see how far they're willing to lie
>I-I'm losing the argument and they're not just agreeing with me? B-bad faith!
>force palms you out the ring without even moving
Kneel, Hariyama.
Y'know, I've never seen this board get derailed from the Unova starters by another Pokemon like this. Congratulations, Hariyama, on being just that fricking shitty you got /vp/ siding with Emboar over you.
it seems more like "I-IT'S A FAT FIGHTING TYPE THOUGH" is the only argument emboargays had so now that it got debunked they became mindbroken.
>it seems more like "I-IT'S A FAT FIGHTING TYPE THOUGH" is the only argument emboargays had
nobody said that
that post does not say what you say it says
"IT'S A FAT FIGHTING TYPE" isn't an argument anyone has made, because it's not an argument, you are moronic.
>that post does not say what you say it says
Yes it does.
no it doesn't. you are legitimately too dumb to comprehend the arguments against you.
The post literally says the equivalent of "it's ok that it has moronic proportions because it's a fighting type"
no, it doesn't. it's saying that emboar can't be shaped like other fatmons, because that would impede its ability to move and, you know, fight.
a big beefy pig that is probably mostly muscle is not comparable to a fat slob and a rotund tongue monster.
>it's saying that emboar can't be shaped like other fatmons, because that would impede its ability to move
That's not what the post says.
>a big beefy pig that is probably mostly muscle
Muscle doesn't justify having no neck and moronicly long arms.
>That's not what the post says.
yes it is
Please point out where in the post it says anything about movement.
it's implied
The fighting type with moronic proportions is Hariyama.
>big ears
>short arms
>big hands
>no visible mouth or nose
>fat fricking thighs that look like spheres
>no longer has any argument, so he trying to start over and reply to my initial post again
kek
it's not every day you get to see an assraping this thorough
At this point, I'm expecting him to sperg about Unovaborts as a last resort.
Holy frick baldie still hasn't moved on. Autism could power cities if it wasn't concentrated on jerking off to people with animal heads, man.
they look like phone game pokemon now
>now
>Serperior should be Grass/Dragon
>Emboar should be Fire/Ground
>Samurott should be Water/Fighting
You cant argue with this
Yes i can.
if emboar had been any type other than fighting it wouldn't draw so much hate. the design is not top tier, but it's not that bad to get all the hate it does, especially when later generations have absolute garbage like inteleon that people drool over. it just came at a time when people expected and wanted anything but another fire/fighting starter and it's still suffering from that to this day.