are you learning japanese to play vidya? how's it going? so far im only done with hiragana / katakana and set up anki for vocabulary along with a grammar textbook online
untranslated videogames
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I'm guessing this doesn't mean a mmf threesomeand instead is something like your half sibling on your dad's side
It actually means to make fun of, fuck with, or bully someone.
You can also write it as woman-man-woman, but the only place I've seen that is Monster Girl Quest.
>he doesn't know 嬲
ngmi
should be the opposite, I would pop a boner eveytime I read that
Too difficult, gave up at kata/hiragana
AJATT is not optional
Then what is.
Autistic.
Doing okay, just started again as a break from school studying. Reset Anki and am slowly working through my old cards. Picked up a few eroge VNs and trying to find something that fits my low skill level.
Awesome as always, its not that difficult honestly, its just time consuming and can be a bit dry at times, just consume the content you want and you will get there eventually
I prefer 嫐
is there an all-in-one website to learn japanese or something I dont want everything scattered in different places
Some anon posted https://learnjapanese.moe/routine/ which lines up with the path I stumbled upon when I tried to do it all myself. Except it took me about 6 months to figure everything out cause I kept going back and forth. If I started with it and stuck with it I'd be much further than I am now.
Middle school girl sex?
Yes officer, right here
>Middle school
Your reps, bro...
Chat GPT has memory and context awareness which current MTLs lack and are why machine TLs are bad. Not long before someone makes a GPT MTL texthooker that is "good enough" for most games.
if nobody cared to translate it then the game is shit
Almost done with Tae Kim's grammar guide, kinda hard to force myself to study everyday since my discipline is shit. I just got done setting up a texthooker so I'm going to try reading a vn soon.
I reset my WK last week and am almost up to level 3.
Listened to a Japanese song and managed to recognize a vocab I learned which felt pretty good.
Can't wait to get filtered by grammar again. Wish there was a WK for grammar.
You don't learn grammar by studying, idiot. You learn it by observing and feeling. I know five different languages and never have I bothered to study grammar for any of them.
>I know five different languages
No you don't.
bullshit, don't lie to me
I'm pretty sure you studied grammar and just didn't notice it.
"Observing and feeling", whatever feeling means here, are a form of study.
I learn grammar, but I don't study it. The same way you wouldn't say that babies study language, they simply learn it through observation and imitation.
Oh look, it's a baby!
Bunpo and Bunpro (2 different things) are decent.
All the games I was mad were never brought over to the west ended up sucking. Feels like I wasted my time
The really good games aren't the shit sequels to shit games, they're the games you never even heard of.
can't you just learn hiragana and katakana and be good enough? do you really HAVE to learn kanji?
Reading Kanji is basically just understanding street signs. You'll get an instinctual feeling for them after a big of studying.
Most words are written in kanji, so you would be essentially illiterate if you didn't learn kanji.
don't bother if you're not going to learn kanji
yes
necessity of kani will become immediately apparent when you try to read full texts entirely in kana, especially when they're unspaced
kani necessary ToT
Yes.
If you're not devoted enough to go balls deep with Japanese then I recommend at least learning katakana since they use a lot of loan words from English you can recognize with it.
Kanji is absolutely necessary to read Japanese though since some words have the same pronunciation or are made of the same hiragana.
人工 and 人口 both share a similar reading of じんこう but represent drastically different things for example.
>人工 and 人口 both share a similar reading of じんこう but represent drastically different things for example.
What retarded language gave birth to this
Was spoken with multiple dialects before a written language (kanji) was introduced from China.
Pic shows right to left its transition
every language has homophones brainlet
>set set
>I eye
>won one
>hi high
etc
Yo, lets get down to games. Someone suggest some games for yochien level japanese.
Do you HAVE to get a pc or console or smart phone to play video games?
Playing through Rance 3 and muv-luv at the moment
real answer - spend all that time learning mandarin instead
>chink chang chong!!
you know im right
I thought about learning other chink languages but they all sound really ugly
will it help me get a job in shanghai, taiwan etc.?
unironically am planning to learn mandarin after im fluent enough in japanese
good luck anon, it will actually help you a lot more than japanese despite that one screencap people post every time someone brings up mandarin
>mandarin
Just say Chinese
cantonese which is spoken in hong kong is different, and there are some more types
Exactly, which is why we should silently erase other Chinese languages by signaling Mandarin as the default.
honestly it would be cool if they just spoke mandarin in all regions
Yeah, hopefully soon we'll all be speaking Mandarin around the world.
Based posts make sure you say High German when you say you're learning German, Parisian for French and Castillian for Spanish and Kanto Japanese not just Japanese.
KANTOOO japanese
I kanto raan japaneez
personally, I'm learning New Yorker English
It's not just chinese though, racist fuck.
is there a reason why we cant have one jp thread without retards saying to learn something else instead for whatever reason
i dont care about whats more useful or "better" to learn, i wanna learn fucking nihongo
based posts brothers!
what are some fun intermediate jp games? i can read easy stuff like flying witch, yotsuba, axanael, articles on https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/ without any trouble, looking for stuff maybe a step above these things in difficulty
Is Duolingo a good way to learn Japanese?
I don't know anyone who has gotten good with duolingo
Ok then how else should I do it? I'm guessing if you actually want to get decent all the worthwhile services you have to pay for, right?
yeah, im willing to pay if it gets the job done well but I cant seem to find any good website at all
first learn hiragana/katakana. This should only take a few days to a week. If you can bother finishing that then you should move on to asking what to do next. Most people get filtered by hiragana.
well yeah, but WHERE do I learn hiragana/katakana
I started learning japanese with the tae kim guide years back. It's not perfect but it's better than any paid service apps.
https://guidetojapanese.org/learn/complete/hiragana
I used this website for hiragana katakana
https://realkana.com/
i'll give you this one https://realkana.com/study/
but apart from that, learn to google
https://www.tofugu.com/japanese/learn-hiragana/
https://www.tofugu.com/japanese/learn-katakana/
It took me 4 days to learn both using this site. Just don't skip the practice sections.
My memory is bad, especually visual. Still don't remember some vovel sounds, in katakana especially. Reading sometimes involves guessing vovels like in ancient hebrew or egyptian text. Learning japanese on and off since like 2002. As you can imagine, kanji are a shitshow too. Still can read easy-ish stuff.
use https://learnjapanese.moe/routine/
duolingo is terrible for like every language, I started learning my own language there as a joke and the course was terrible
No. Wanikani is a good site but it only teaches you words with kanji. No grammar or kana-only words.
it's good for giving you a very very basic and general idea of what the language is like, but when i used it they didn't even fucking teach you katakana and the grammar explanations were practically useless.
Duolingo can help with SOME of the drilling for basic character up to limited kanji, and round out vocabulary and grammar that you don't have, but it's absolutely not viable by itself.
Everyone should learn the language with the things that interest them. If you don't, you will not get far.
The problem is that the stuff im interested in is way too difficult for my baby-tier skill level
A lot of people here recommend learnjapanese.moe but that method for me feels like a bad shortcut and wont give you a solid foundation. It basically comes down to reading visual novels with a translator extension and hope you learn through repetition and osmosis. It's for the people who want to jump right in without putting in actual work.
-Get the Genki textbooks and workbooks. They're the best beginner textbooks.
TokiniAndy has a great YouTube channel with lessons to self teach using the books. He has a patreon too which isnt necessary but has a lot of extra help for the exercises and pronunciations with his japanese wife.
-Wanikani worked best for kanji for me personally. There are other methods like Kanji Learner's Course but that's mostly brute force memorization with a notebook instead of an app.
-intermediate level is Tobira or Quartet textbooks. TokiniAndy has videos on these as well. At this point you'll be able to read a good enough chunk that you can easily look up what you dont know yet, which will be a lot until you have enough vocab down.
-grammar resources will the mentioned textbooks, Tae Kim, bunpo, and bunpro.
To me it comes down to time & dedication. I agree that if you have a lot of free time and are a serious student then using the textbooks is a million times better long term. But I'm a lazy shit and don't see myself getting through multiple textbooks without seeing some sort of progress, so having the moe guide works better for me since like you said I get to jump into it and see results. All that said I do plan to go back and use some of the resources that you mentioned once I'm done with school.
Been playing Dragon Quest 11 and reading every single line of text there is. It's taking me a fair while (currently at 190 hrs) but I am making noticeable progress.
how hard is it? never played a dragon quest game before, is it retard friendly in its vocabulary?
Grammar is N4 to N3, I'd say, but mostly the former. Overall relatively simple sentence structures. There's a lot of vocab you won't know unless you've played other fantasy games in Japanese before, which was the case for me. But a lot of those specific words appear more than once, so you'll memorize them after a while, there's few words which only appear once, which is nice. There's furigana and spaces between individual sentence parts, so that makes reading relatively simple. No voice acting for the majority of dialogue, which is a bummer.
Keep in mind, the first 100 hours of my playtime where on the PC version with the Japanese fan patch, which at the time didn't have furigana, so my playtime is vastly inflated by me having to look up every single kanji I didn't know. So someone on the same skill level as I, who played with the updated fan patch or with the Japanese Switch version from the beginning on, would probably be done by now.
I also recommend buying a kanji poster as motivation. You'll quickly see your knowledge expanding and they wont feel so overwhelming and daunting. It's a great tracking tool.
Children can learn them however
japanese / chinese children are built different
No they just spend all their time learning them
Just get a jap gf to translate for you
she looks chinese though
am 32 and i just passed the N3 test. I wasted 2 years of my life for this, i want my time back.
this is why you dont waste time on a dead language
i thought i was going to be able to get a job from home.
>dead language
brainlet cope
chinese is the future
Bro you only learn this language for the JRPGs and fetish hentai games
Thinking of getting back into this. Is Tae Kim and Core2k still the best way?
read
>read 1 line
>spend 99% of the time deciphering shit
I absolute hate this muh read meme.
works on my machine
Lot of niche words depending on the genre you play (like fantasy) which are useless outside of the save file. Over-emotional/Larp dialogue like in anime or JRPG is obviously not going to get you a job outside of English Teacher. It’ll take a month the translate past the tutorial if there isn’t furigana. Better to learn through manga until like N3 level (~8y/o nip) then switch to Novels imo. Don’t worry about speaking Japanese btw their population is old and deaf
Event fantasy games will teach you a lot of normal Jap vocab.
>the kanji for '' noisy '' is just 3x kanjis for '' woman ''
it is actually "firehead"
>kanji for "little" looks like an adult man and two e-bois lying in bed together
>the kanji for "gay" looks like (You)
木 林 森 𣛧 𣡕 𣡽
They can't keep getting away with it!
>𣛧 𣡕 𣡽
>japanese
Also 樹木
This is my favorite kanji.
I swear to god if that's a real kanji
Yeah, I learned hiragana and katakana and I'm currently on WK level 3. Kanji is a bit of a slog because of all the special cases for the pronounciation but I'm pushing through. Still not sure how and when to start doing grammar though.
No but I want to try again someday, still want to play Uncharted Waters Gaiden/Daikoukai Jidai
Tell me about your anki reps, guy in his late 20s who thinks he's gonna make it.
At lest I don't moderate an imageboard L M A O!!!