>Valorant retained 90% of LoL playerbase and Project L would only need 10% to be double Street Fighter
>Project L being a forever game that is free will make Fighting games obsolete except for the die hard morons that can never let go
>Project L making one button specials a thing...will be successful because le popular
>Capcom anticipated this and made their biggest prize pool yet to compete with the inevitability of Riot coming in and dominating fighting game esports (YouTube conspiracy, idek what this means)
Is he right?
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>Project L
literally who?
Riot is garbage soulless chink money vampires. TFT is shit. Valorantis shit. New arena is shit. LoR is shit. For what they released of the new fighting game it looked like total shit.
Valorant is very good you just have a hateboner for Riot.
Valorant will only lasts until csgo2 is out
Your days are numbered
>Valorant is very good
yea man keep chewing turds
Boohoo, not my fault you are forever stuck in iron 1.
lmao you are actually a moron my condolences
Cry me a river.
>you only hate the shitty video game cause your ranking in the shitty video game is low!!
you actually typed that out as if it had any bearing on someone's correct opinion on the game
>I am radiant #1 honest
Go play and git gud instead of crying.
here, take a stale meme, i'm sure you'll love it
>And he's still crying with his saved images of said stale memes
Nice try, riotdrone. Not playing your braindead troony game
As a huge fighting game Black person, I will not play project L ever amd I'll be sure to tell everyone to never play Riot trash
it's going to still have a high skill ceiling, just like league and valorant. Yes, they require skill. Riot is great at making difficult genres more accessible by reducing tedium and bloat.
THIS. All I care about is that there's a high enough skill ceiling that there's no Garen, or Malphite, or Ekko, or Ashe, or Lux, or Wukong, or Kaisa, or Neeko tier characters where they literally just press all their buttons and get free shit.
A low skill floor is fine as long as it's high enough to enable a high skill ceiling. I'm still personally iffy about motion controls and that comment in picrel is genuinely cringe and moronic. Makes no argument about why motion controls shouldn't exist, just whines that "waaaahhhhh I can't do it and disabled people can't, so it shouldn't exist wahhhh even though this argument could be used against virtually anything anyone has trouble with and only homogenizes the industry and stifles creativity wahhhh!!"
I have a bad feeling about Project L, but I wanna believe that if Riot truly makes a solo based, player focused game where your teammates can't troll you...then they might be able to make a good game...
>All I care about is that there's a high enough skill ceiling that there's no Garen, or Malphite, or Ekko, or Ashe, or Lux, or Wukong, or Kaisa, or Neeko tier characters where they literally just press all their buttons and get free shit.
>one button specials
anon, come the frick on
we have to see what it's like first before judging. some previewers seem to suggest it has high skill ceiling.
>Garen, or Malphite, or Ekko, or Ashe, or Lux, or Wukong, or Kaisa, or Neeko
those champs actually play the game unlike zed, lee sin, yasuo, or riven who get free shit for not even clicking buttions (manaless ad scaling shield dash on rivens E, Yasuo free shield for walking around and double crit for no reason) and then can just mash their keyboard and do things that no champs are allowed to do, if you lost to garen you got outskilled
>those champs actually play the game unlike zed, lee sin, yasuo, or riven who get free shit for not even clicking buttions (manaless ad scaling shield dash on rivens E, Yasuo free shield for walking around and double crit for no reason)
lol
>Garen literally free regeneration passive is somehow more free than yasuo "free???" shield he can't even control or regenerate (regenerate the shield I mean, not the flow stacks)
>Yasuo also has a dozen conditional abilities and literally can't ult without stacking an ability twice and hitting a skill shot or wasting a dash (conditional, so if they get away, u can't dash back)
>Riven literally needs to minute and precise movements in between every click and ability just to be useful. Has zero range without ult.
>Zed is just OP, I don't care.
Tell me you're shit at the game without telling me you're shit at the game...lmao.
>Riot is great at making difficult genres more accessible by reducing tedium and bloat.
PFFFTT HAHAHAHA
>Riot is great at making difficult genres more accessible by reducing tedium and bloat.
Do you mean stripping away core mechanics that make the genre more fun so it can appeal to braindead normalgay zoomers such as yourself?
no way you just typed that
>high skill ceiling, just like league and valorant.
Valorant is braindead and LoL is all knowledge-checks, i.e. bloat.
>Valorant is braindead
I can tell you never played it.
This thread is a reminder that Riot has heavily used blatant astroturfing to promote their brand since the company's inception.
Eat my ass, Riot wagies
Back in the day there was a permanent League general on Ganker.
that, ladies and gentlemen, is a mindbroken cuck
>Valorant retained 90% of LoL playerbase
I find that surprising, and one button stuff has been tried before.
valorant currently just serves as a way to pick up bpd girls
I can see the playerbase overlap now
If riot's brand can make a rape baby between overwatch and counterstrike into a resounding success then chances are it'll do the same for slow 1-button special marvel, the most you can hope for is that the genre stays inaccessible to newbies the way card games did with lor, but they'll break in anyway because it's more zoomer-friendly than cards
The concept of 2v2 is so awful that it will kill the game
doesn't it have a 1v1 mode that everyone will default to anyway? I also planned on avoiding It like a plague once I heard tag fighter, but had someone tell me it's just a mode in one of the past Project L threads. It's safe, fighting games are over. Project L will take over now that its greatest weakness has been addressed.
I don't really like team games and this looks like it's going to be a bbtag style/ degen team fighter, so I probably won't like it that much but I'm willing to give it a chance. If you like Skullgirls you'll probably love this game.
Isn't it about time they named their game already?
It being a team fighter alone will stop it from making every other fighter "obsolete" because not everyone wants to play tag fighter garbage. Fighting games also put too much responsibility on the player compared to League and Valorant where they can just blame their losses on teammates, this alone will filter the majority of the League playerbase.
>B-b-but the 2v2 mode!
meme shit that will be treated more as a novelty instead of a main game mode
>TAG
I can't tell if this is a reaction image or a fetish image. Either way the detailed sexy body combined with the disgusting puke makes me highly uncomfortable. People has some disgusting sick fricking fetishes, frick.
No because Project L looks like shit. You gotta realize that one of the most important parts of what makes a fighting game sells is the graphics. Slap City is considered to be one of the greatest platform fighters but it looks like it was drawn by literal children so most people didn't play it.
I don't think it's that it looks like shit necessarily. It's that it's competing with Guilty Gear Strive in the graphics and art style department, and strive mogs it so fricking hard. But honestly, I don't even like strive's art either. Fighting game graphics peaked with 3rd Strike's sprite work. I wish it was possible for games to be made like that, but somehow higher quality and even more animated.
This anime style trend that has been taking over just feels LITERALLY too...fake to take seriously, like the way it moves and everything makes it look like I'm watching literally drawings clash against eachother than actual fighters. No it's not like anime. Anime's like AOT, Demon Slayer, One Piece, and Jujitsu Kaisen have a very good flow to their fight scenes. It just feels stilted in Fighting games.
>It just feels stilted in Fighting games
fighting games have to be quick where moves come out in as little of 1/12th of a second. it's hard to get a lot of good animation in that time, and because your fighting game will usually have your moves cancel into others, you won't even get to complete the move as you immediately move into the next one, ending with something that can look more flashy and intense.
your animations also have to be general so unfortunately you can't be detailed with how someone is getting hit by someone else directly in their face compared to their stomach. and the reason for that generalness is for gameplay consistency in those animations.
maybe you can get it to work if you decided to let the animators work way longer on more detailed looking interactions with the attacks (leaning over to hit a short character, aiming for a better weak spot based on the character's weapons) but it wouldn't be considered competitive probably to have animations be different in every single match up
Project L looks great though. Probably the best western comic style I've seen in a video game.
You guys don't seriously think the coop shit is gonna be the only mode do you? Riot surely wouldn't be that dumb probably.
There's literally one mode - 2 characters per team. You can play both characters yourself or tag with a friend if you want.
Should have made a smash clone instead
Nobody plays boomer fighter even with modern control scheme
>b-but SF6
Players are already bored of it
The problem is that SF6 was garbage and wasn't any more accessible. Project L just needs to be decent and have a control scheme that's easy to understand.
I thought fighting games always had incredibly low retention rates. Like MK, everyone buys it to see the fatalities and then never plays it again.
I refuse to believe a tag fighter will ever be *that* successful
I'm sure PL will have its audience but only seriously sick fricks actually like team fighters.
>learning more than other character is crazy
This is why no one takes the FGC groomers seriously.
Have you never seen bbtag or marvel? You really have to be a special breed to like these games past the first few months.
I think I played the one MvC game on PS2 and it felt mediocre for many reasons. Also the 3v3 was way excessive.
They could always add 1v1 as a queue easily. They game is supposed to be a forever game like LoL with no sequels. They can do whatever they want to it.
>Project L being a forever game that is free will make Fighting games obsolete
According to who, that literal nobody who has a yt channel?
>According to who, that literal nobody who has a yt channel?
Watch the video and you'll realize he backs up every point reasonably and logically, and never overshoots without clarifying that it's just a theory or opinion. But you probably won't because you have an irrational bias against youtubers here to fit in, and are likely not incidentally ignorant, but deliberately so. Obviously, I can be proven wrong. I rarely am tho, when it comes to how predictable this place is.
God you sound like a total gay
yeah, and you got totally dumpstered and predicted by a "gay" lul, I don't see much to be proud of, but then again. Ignorance is bliss no?
freemium games have been killing normal, paid games. Even CoD took notes and decided to go f2p. And even greedy MS and Sony dropped their paid subscription requirements for these games.
Fighting game is not even about playing the game.
It's about the roster.
Unless you can get Ryu, Chun Li, Liu Kang, Sub Zero & Mario in the same game, it's pointless to say that any fighting game is gonna end the genre.
>Jinx?
>Ekko
>Vi?
With the recent release of Arcane especially. League has some pretty notable characters. Vi sounds like the PERFECT character for a fighting game too.
Fighting games died when the tourneygays took over the genre and wienerblocked the possibility of having actual 3D or any meaningful new mechanics. I would rather get infected by Chinese spyware to play Naraka than pay to play a new game with the same generic 2D formula.
I unironically agree with some of this. I feel like even though fighting games are better than ever (especially SF6, game is fantastic despite some questionable decisons) I feel like they're all just playing it too safe and only reinventing in the safest possible way to appeal the hardcore tourney tryhards.
We will NEVER get another big budget new IP that's a 3D fighting game or a fighter with ballsy new fun mechanics. It will only an indie game that dies with a lower playercount. We will NEVER get something like Urban Reign even if it could mass market appeal to casuals.
Tekken will be the only 3D fighter and we will have to like. Maybe the small possiblity of a new Soul Calibur or DOA if Tekken does super well and we get super super lucky.
Bro just fricking play Naruto Shitstorm Shitpudden 78 Clash of Ninja Anus if you want 3D fighters. There are fricking millions of them, and they're unbalanced as all frick so you have no worry about "toruneygays" ruining them for you. You can get infinite juggled online all day if you want while scratching your ballsack during infinite hitstun if you find that fun. But you won't play them because you don't know what you actually want.
Naruto is unwatchable sorry.
>specifically says he wants something new
>get told to play long standing series with many sequels
there are a lot of morons here, or one super moron
>Think I'm literally pointing to a single game rather than lumping them all into an amalgamation
moron.
They make "new" ones all the fricking time with different mechanics and and gimmicks. They never catch on though. Why? Because they're fricking shit.
There are Gundams, Jojos, Dragonballs, Narutos, One Pieces, Pokemon, etc. All of them are wildly different unbalanced shitfests with all the 3D fighting you want. But they never really take off. Why? They're all fricking shit and the casual fanbase that eats them up puts them down after realizing it's unbalanced shitfest with all the "new" mechanics they try shoving in your face. Only the Pokemon one is respectable because it came from Tekken devs but they ruined the roster for that one and screwed up by relying on Nintendo's shit netcode making it dead on arrival because online was unplayable.
I'm literally pointing to a single game rather than lumping them all into an amalgamation
>Naruto Shitstorm Shitpudden 78 Clash of Ninja Anus
then be more creative with your names please, my autism only noticed Naruto
What you are saying is that only tie-in trash has the creative freedom to actually try new things. Meanwhile all the quality big budget studios are forced to be creatively bankrupt.
Wtf I love tourneygays now, they kept smash gays at bay
Riot is the knock off brand you would see on the packaging if you bought a cheaper alternative of something off of ebay
I don't know how people play their shit, all of it just feels low quality.
What the actual frick is the art direction for this? Why does Ahri look so shit? She's supposed to be a fricking fox succubus, not a cleaning lady in cosplay.
>She's supposed to be a fricking fox succubus,
Not anymore, they changed her lore. She is a good girl now.
Are you serious? I haven't played League in probably 8 years. Did they seriously retcon her lore?...
What the frick? She's based on legit folklore.
sorry chud that's problematic and a male fantasy, now please buy sexy skin #4 for skinny female #94 thank you
>making one button specials a thing.
I don't play fightan games anymore but didn't Bloody Roar did it like 15 years ago?
>2v2 tag assist fighter
Biggest mistake they could've possible made. It will never be able to compete with Street Fighter because tag fighters are never as fun to play as they are to watch.
>skullgirls killed itself
>bbtag had no budget and also killed itself
>marvel inf was killed by Disney
>marvel 3 has borderline unplayable balancing
>dbfz is complete shit and got fricked by droid
Are tag fighters just fricking cursed or something?
sg had a good run for 9 years
bbtag didn't kill itself, just filled with a bunch of literal whos and the game became unfun puppet character left/right bullshit
infinite was killed by disney after a rushed launch and less than zero budget, but was a solid game
umvc3 balance is fine, there's four top tier characters (zero, morrigan, vergil, magneto) which is par for the course
dbfz was dogshit for a while but every patch makes it better and once it finally gets rollback it'll gain a load of players
we'll see
fighting games are extremely niche and lose 90% of their player base after the first month
valorant worked because its still a team shooter that people can play with a group of friends
fighting games are a slightly more isolating experience
I think the 2 player teams thing will go a long way.
>named project L
>game is a huge L.
it has shitty cheap cellshaded PS2 character models who never change expressions. even the prototype had painted high detailed models who were very expressive.
>one button specials a thing
lol people are so fricking stupid in 2023 that this will be praised
The game is fugly except for Ahri. It will likely have the same staying power as Runeterra.
I just want to play the Riot MMO already. 🙁
Cool. Still not playing it tho
>Project L
One letter off from perfection
>one-button specials
Why do FG devs keep doing this shit? To get normies into their game? Normies don't play fighting games anyway (unless it's MK or Tekken), so why alienate your core audience?
>To get normies into their game?
It's Riot, what do you think
it may create a new audience in a similar way of smash and smash clones
>chinkshit
>duo tag
>riot of all things
how awful
> Project L
taking Ls before the game even releases
It being a tag game immediately is going to send alot of people away due to how degenerate they can be. Props to them for rolling with it though.
It's the opposite since 1-2 players vs 1-2 players is being heavily pushed. Instead of losing alone you can lose with a friend. It softens the blow to theirs egos and makes it less scary.
That's nice and all but even 1v1 you still have to pick 2 characters are the core gameplay is a tag game.
And a lot of casuals aren't going to be playing 1v1. Riot also intends to push for 2v2 with their tournaments scene.
It's an ambitious idea, we'll see if it pays dividends or not. I remember Multiversus attacking that angle too but the hype still didn't last.
most casuals dont even care if a game is tag or not, they just play and once a character dies they just pick it up with the next one, KoF style
from what ive observed most of the people turned off by tag mechanics are tourneygays who couldnt hang in competitive settings and switched back to non tag games
sure tag games are generally more offensively slanted but so are the majority of 1v1 fighters these days
Ahri looks good
Project L will make a lot of playerbase since it's free and its from Riot.
What I don't get it is why a lot of FGs still charge 60$+ for their base game. The skill ceiling is already so high, if you want people to come into your game you gotta lure them in with a cheaper price point.
That's what they said about Multiversus and look where that is at.
Project L will probably have Camille since the fighting community has tons of disgusting hag gays for whatever reason. Same reason why Capcom and netherealm keep bringing back Sindel and Chun Li
>Smash community is full of pedos but the other games have tons of dudes into old bags