if you read the design manual you know why. They think they found the absolute perfect designs for their Dota 2 characters, that's why they explain their oh so great color schemes and shadow usage and whatever, they're so proud of that. But in reality the fricking heroes in that game are often really hard to see with all these horrible effects and mega ults that one shot you across the map or blindside you, Valve just likes to suck their own dicks with their shut-in, no leader fratboy culture.
They don't think the designs are good. They don't care about the designs at all. They just know that for some reason DOTA rakes in billions from human-adjacent entities known as 'Koreans'
moronic dogs like op will just find anything to bark about, it's called a unique art style and nothing about this character looks woke. Sorry that its ugly to you but if you want hot white women dressed in a half-naked "battle attire" and buff generic male characters go play league like the infantile you are and let us enjoy a proper fantasy game.
I hope you get cancer for comparing League's beautiful and soulful artstyle to the disgusting pozzed cancer that is Deadlock, you subhuman shit-guzzling soidrinking monkeybrained living pile of garbage
Simple yet easily recognizable. You can identify every single character in TF2 solely based on their shadows/silhouettes or sounds. Someone link the video of the art lead explaining all of this, I can't find it.
>Valve used to be made up of a bunch of talented people making great games >now it's a bunch of lazy people who can coast on Steam revenue, barely make games, and the few games they do make are microtransaction dispensers
Left's game uses a blocky 50's cartoony pinup artstyle that is still stands out to this day.
Right is the same exact CALarts style wokefest art that comes with almost every single multiplayer FPS title now.
What makes demoman a good character design? If it were a bad character design, we wouldn't be sittin' here discussing it 15 years later ya now would we
I don't care
I won't play it
Hero shooters are dead
Valve should instead take over the Battlefield vacuum and make another Day of Defeat with 256 player servers and L4D level gore (basically Enlisted but for straight men and no bots)
Battlebit not having staying power probably killed any publisher interests in it which is a shame. Not sure why they want to make hero shooters though.
By the time a company plans and develops a game type, peoples interests have changed since they've been playing the living shit out of (gametype) for 5+ years
It has no staying power along with all multiplayer shooters because everyone is hacking. 1 out of every 3 players is cheating with esp or aim bot.
>It has no staying power along with all multiplayer shooters because everyone is hacking.
This.
EAC is a huge scam. Literal nothingburger of an anti-cheat. I do remember people sharing cheats for Battlebit at the same week of release, shit was sadly doomed to fail.
Please say you are trolling.
Granted, they went radio silent for quite a few months, but haven't they promised us a huge update? I thought they were working on it.
Me too, I don't know what to call it, but this just looks like all those shitty games on battle net or other programs I never used that make shitty games for brazillians I never played. It's self-reinforcing as they only take inspiration from other shit like this, no clue what the progenitor was but it leaves it all blurring into one
Me too, I don't know what to call it, but this just looks like all those shitty games on battle net or other programs I never used that make shitty games for brazillians I never played. It's self-reinforcing as they only take inspiration from other shit like this, no clue what the progenitor was but it leaves it all blurring into one
I don't care
I won't play it
Hero shooters are dead
Valve should instead take over the Battlefield vacuum and make another Day of Defeat with 256 player servers and L4D level gore (basically Enlisted but for straight men and no bots)
Why the frick are they investing in another shooter instead of bringing TF2 back to life
The only reason TF2 isn't brimming with players right now is exactly because Valve abandoned the game
>could've made the guy look like Turok or some shit >instead just make some grandpa with a hilariously oversized scifi bow
i know valve has never been great at character design but lmao
i know the point of this is the fact that this has 3 trillion tris attached to it but i still can not get over the fact they accidentally turned fricking into fricking
Why the FRICK are you making another shooter game when TF2 IS LITERALLY RIGHT THERE
UPDATE THIS FRICKING GAME FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO YOU HATE MONEY
I WILL *PERSONALLY* BUY SEVEN KEYS IF YOU JUST FRICKING UPDATE THIS GODDAMN GAME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
'valve dosen't advertise DOTA or CS'
youre ignoring the million dollar tournaments that Valve sponsors for both of these games. CSGO didnt have that many players until Valve stepped in and threw money around to get it going.
100% guarantee you the Campo Santo homosexuals are working on this, it looks exactly like the shitty niggress from their scrapped Valley of the Gods game
An alpha tester leaked screenshots of an in-development game that hasn't been announced. Now everyone's freaking out that an in-development game that doesn't have finalized art assets somehow does not have great art assets.
if it's bad in alpha, it'll be bad on release. you wasted time making shit designs and now you have no time left to perfect the gameplay on top of redoing your designs.
Where are all the coping morons yesterday who were saying "NO I'M LE SOURCE 2 MAPPER, IT'S FAKE, SOURCE 2 MAPS DON'T LOOK LIKE THAT"? Actually delusional, Valve fell off so hard.
I'm looking forward to lefties fricking embarrasing themselves trying to make up stupid reasons why people hate chief firewater there yet everyone loves demoman >UH YOU CHUDS WOULD HATE HIM IF HE WAS MADE TODAY
tf2s been dead for well over a decade yet he still remains a beloved character, the date of his creation clearly has nothing to do with that yet we're still going to see a thousand reddit screencaps of dumbfrick r/gamingcirclejerk users trying to say all valve fans are just racists because they don't like smokesum peacepipe
Wtf happened in 2013 to make them just... stop? You think with making all the money in the world, the creatives at Valve would see an opportunity to make their dream games or whatever
Surprisingly braindead move from Valve
Also >TF2 did officially get ported to Source 2, but specifically to serve as a basis for their fricking MOBA hero shooter
Old dicky bow man probably doesn't have a face rig yet lmao, he looks too serious on that image, idk about how valve writes dota characters but if they manage to give the deadlock fellas actually cool personalities it might work, since that's what gives TF2 characters like 70% of their charm anyways
People shitted on TF2 because it was different from the trend of serious military shooters (which only got stronger until the mid 2010's)
People are now shitting on the new game because it's no different from the current trend of fairy fantastic cartroon hero MOBA-shooter.
They are not the same.
No one wants to play as someone's overweight philipino grandpa. Why do devs forget that ultimately, we don't actually want uggo normie representation and would much rather just play cool characters instead.
YOU KNOW WHAT
they already have an archer who shots green shit
and she is pretty
WE COULD HAVE HAD WINDRANGER
INSTEAD YOU YOU AND YOU ALL GET THIS FAT UGLY DEI GRANDMA
Da fuk u duin here, geezer?
da one u argued with back then, they all hav moved on wit dey life, it been more than 10 years ago already
wat chu doin here, geezer?
I hope it's only a tentative design.
All characters in Dota 2 are ugly as frick, so I hope for something better.
ugly and lame. I dont know why Valve still thinks their Dota characters are so great that they keep doing dota related spinoffs, lol
if you read the design manual you know why. They think they found the absolute perfect designs for their Dota 2 characters, that's why they explain their oh so great color schemes and shadow usage and whatever, they're so proud of that. But in reality the fricking heroes in that game are often really hard to see with all these horrible effects and mega ults that one shot you across the map or blindside you, Valve just likes to suck their own dicks with their shut-in, no leader fratboy culture.
Dota is a cancer to all it touches
Their "original" (copied from warcraft 3) designs were mostly very good, a decade of chinkshit cosmetics changed that completely
do you think valve employees are secretly degenerate and toxic but no word gets out since they're a private company and they're valve?
Because Dota still makes a frickload of money, and TF2 does not
>TF2 does not
It does, but it doesn't need players playing the game to make money.
TF2 doesn't make any money anymore
Almost like updates enticed people to put money in the game
>Stop updating the game
>Players move on
I wonder fricking why
>It does
come the frick on, dota battle passes have given valve the confidence to make shitty dota card games and shitty dota anime
any profit the tf2 market makes is overshadowed by the cs2 market
TF2 would be comparable in popularity to DOTA and CS2 if it was regularly updated.
They don't think the designs are good. They don't care about the designs at all. They just know that for some reason DOTA rakes in billions from human-adjacent entities known as 'Koreans'
they abandoned all their rules and guidelines in favor of selling skins
koreans don't play dota at all
>koreans
>playing dota
moron detected
Hoodwink is a goddess you shut up
>ASShomosexual hero shooter
>In 2024
Valve is supposed to be making something good. This shit already sounds Artifact tier. Fricking ESports chasing homosexuals.
moronic dogs like op will just find anything to bark about, it's called a unique art style and nothing about this character looks woke. Sorry that its ugly to you but if you want hot white women dressed in a half-naked "battle attire" and buff generic male characters go play league like the infantile you are and let us enjoy a proper fantasy game.
It looks ugly. But ugly is a core element of western californian basedboy visual design so what can you do?
>unique artstyle
homie, the exact same artstyle exist in LoL, Dota, Overwatch, Valorant
I hope you get cancer for comparing League's beautiful and soulful artstyle to the disgusting pozzed cancer that is Deadlock, you subhuman shit-guzzling soidrinking monkeybrained living pile of garbage
>League's beautiful and soulful artstyle
sorry mate, but League lost its right to be included into any discussion ever since they introduced that computer destroying chink rootkit.
>t. scripter
(You)
OP BTFO
CHUDS BTFO
LEAGUEBABS BTFO
valve troons*
the troons have won if trans george washington is what we can expect from valve in the future
you must think your joke was reaaaaaaally funny to samegay and post it twice
Valorant literally took over CS2 because of pretty boys and pretty girls.
And they still insist on making us play these unsavory designs.
Didn't bows fad die 10 years ago?
SWEET BABY SCHIZO WAS RIGHT
IT'S TRULY OVER FOR VALVE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
Explain to me why the left one is better than the right one.
TAKE ME BACK AAAAAAA WAT THE FRICK HAPPENED TO VALVE
Simple yet easily recognizable. You can identify every single character in TF2 solely based on their shadows/silhouettes or sounds. Someone link the video of the art lead explaining all of this, I can't find it.
>Valve used to be made up of a bunch of talented people making great games
>now it's a bunch of lazy people who can coast on Steam revenue, barely make games, and the few games they do make are microtransaction dispensers
they are not that talented
their best games were made by other peoples, and then they bring them into the company
It's good taste. Not everyone can have it, included (you)
left is cool and funny
right is moronic and ugly
left is black Scotsman cyclop
right is trans George Washington
Honestly.... That sounds fun too in weird fricked up way. I would unironically love if they actually went with that.
>simple
>badass
>good art style
right has too much visual clutter and poor readability
Left's game uses a blocky 50's cartoony pinup artstyle that is still stands out to this day.
Right is the same exact CALarts style wokefest art that comes with almost every single multiplayer FPS title now.
Calarts must be the most versatile artstyle ever since it feels like every modern artstyle is labeled as such.
fricking TOLD
What makes demoman a good character design? If it were a bad character design, we wouldn't be sittin' here discussing it 15 years later ya now would we
Real. There's a reason why TF2 characters are still culturally relevant to this day. They have personality and unique designs.
Sovl vs soulless
Simple, efficient, glorious
Because the one on the right is plastic. These new morons at valve can't design a character that doesn't look like I could melt it with a magnifier.
simplicity. simple as
left was made when I was 13 years old kid
right is made when I'm a bitter 30yo incel
i didn't grow up with tf2 so i don't get it either
both games are/will be brownskin containment zones anyway so i can't be bothered
No wonder Valve was on the Sweet Baby website, it's over
it looks cool tf you mean
I'm so fricking tired of this soulless hightech fantasy Blizzard artstyle you see in every game these days.
its crazy that we only have battlebit
meant to respond to this
Battlebit not having staying power probably killed any publisher interests in it which is a shame. Not sure why they want to make hero shooters though.
By the time a company plans and develops a game type, peoples interests have changed since they've been playing the living shit out of (gametype) for 5+ years
It has no staying power along with all multiplayer shooters because everyone is hacking. 1 out of every 3 players is cheating with esp or aim bot.
>It has no staying power along with all multiplayer shooters because everyone is hacking.
This.
EAC is a huge scam. Literal nothingburger of an anti-cheat. I do remember people sharing cheats for Battlebit at the same week of release, shit was sadly doomed to fail.
That game is long dead anon, the devs are planning on stopping updates next month anyway.
Please say you are trolling.
Granted, they went radio silent for quite a few months, but haven't they promised us a huge update? I thought they were working on it.
2 of the devs mentioned offhand on discord recently that most of the team left and that they were struggling with keeping the servers intact alone.
That big update isn't coming anon, sorry to break it to ya.
screenshots or it didn't happen
Me too, I don't know what to call it, but this just looks like all those shitty games on battle net or other programs I never used that make shitty games for brazillians I never played. It's self-reinforcing as they only take inspiration from other shit like this, no clue what the progenitor was but it leaves it all blurring into one
WoW was the origin. Then stuff like League of Legends came along and then everyone just copied it because it was popular.
The ArtStation artstyle
wasn't that the professional version of Deviantfart that got shut down many years ago?
Your thinking of Conceptart.org but pretty much everyone on that site migrated to ArtStation.
I don't care
I won't play it
Hero shooters are dead
Valve should instead take over the Battlefield vacuum and make another Day of Defeat with 256 player servers and L4D level gore (basically Enlisted but for straight men and no bots)
>Hero shooter
>Sugary infant
>Third person
It's dead on arrival
Why do morons like OP pretend Dota 2 never existed?
How the mighty have fallen
Shooter are the only thing Valve can actually make well so I'm hopeful
suure
that's why people b***h about csgo moronic spread
that's why people b***h about TF2 random crits
>hopeful
>cooldown shit
>possibly infinite ammo like Overwatch
It's gonna be shit.
>Sweet Baby Inc'd
Why the frick are they investing in another shooter instead of bringing TF2 back to life
The only reason TF2 isn't brimming with players right now is exactly because Valve abandoned the game
They're moronic. See Artifact.
The fact they still sell lootboxes while not giving a single frick about updating the game is fricking outrageous
Valve has fallen. Billions must die.
What am I even supposed to be looking at with the guy on the right? What are people losing their shit over?
Valve's art style degradation
where?
Am i tripping or does the right look like it was made in fricking Hero Forge lmaoo
Right is mobile game tier they definately have the DOTA art team on this game and they suck ass.
>could've made the guy look like Turok or some shit
>instead just make some grandpa with a hilariously oversized scifi bow
i know valve has never been great at character design but lmao
Describe the right character's colour theme
grey talon is trans btw
>Overwatch
>great looking characters
>its first person
>Deadlock
>atrocious looking characters
>its third-person
le sigh
>see futuristic anime bow
SE-
>see whats holding it
It dead Jim.
What the hell is that on the right?
I would bet money the design on the right was made by a stupid prostitute.
i know the point of this is the fact that this has 3 trillion tris attached to it but i still can not get over the fact they accidentally turned fricking into fricking
Why the FRICK are you making another shooter game when TF2 IS LITERALLY RIGHT THERE
UPDATE THIS FRICKING GAME FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO YOU HATE MONEY
I WILL *PERSONALLY* BUY SEVEN KEYS IF YOU JUST FRICKING UPDATE THIS GODDAMN GAME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Nobody wants to play that oldass game anymore, Valve can't attract a new audiences with TF2 move on.
The average player started after matchmaking garbage.
Nobody shows up because THEY DON'T UPDATE OR ADVERTISE THE GODDAMN GAME
>ADVERTISE THE GODDAMN GAME
they don't do it for Dota or CS either so that's not an excuse
Yeah they just shadowdropped CS2, no shilling at all.
They did, you just didn't notice with gabe's cum in your eyes
CS2 wasn't advertised at all, not even a beta.
'valve dosen't advertise DOTA or CS'
youre ignoring the million dollar tournaments that Valve sponsors for both of these games. CSGO didnt have that many players until Valve stepped in and threw money around to get it going.
forget about TF2, it never happened.
enjoy fantasy valorant asshomosexuals instead
this game looks like that cool cancelled arkane game (the crossing?) mixed with that boring dota character design
delirious tf2gays coping as per usual
delirious israeliteben glazing AZ usual
why didnt you (You) me huh? fricking yellow bellied coward. Little TFtroon ME SMASH YOU.
>another multiplayer slop
100% guarantee you the Campo Santo homosexuals are working on this, it looks exactly like the shitty niggress from their scrapped Valley of the Gods game
Literally none of the Campo Santo devs are at Valve anymore except for Sean Vanaman, and he's a writer, not an artist.
Oh, but they're there. You just can't see them with the naked eye.
They could have been working on this game before leaving
I'm hoping it's a hoax
From what game is that pic on the right? Did I miss a Valve game announcement?
An alpha tester leaked screenshots of an in-development game that hasn't been announced. Now everyone's freaking out that an in-development game that doesn't have finalized art assets somehow does not have great art assets.
if it's bad in alpha, it'll be bad on release. you wasted time making shit designs and now you have no time left to perfect the gameplay on top of redoing your designs.
Leaked screens from Valve’s new game
Where are all the coping morons yesterday who were saying "NO I'M LE SOURCE 2 MAPPER, IT'S FAKE, SOURCE 2 MAPS DON'T LOOK LIKE THAT"? Actually delusional, Valve fell off so hard.
If Demoman was unveiled today you would be crying about his design as well.
This looks like complete slop however This is Valve so I'm hopeful
Now can we get TF:Source 2 already?
I'm looking forward to lefties fricking embarrasing themselves trying to make up stupid reasons why people hate chief firewater there yet everyone loves demoman
>UH YOU CHUDS WOULD HATE HIM IF HE WAS MADE TODAY
tf2s been dead for well over a decade yet he still remains a beloved character, the date of his creation clearly has nothing to do with that yet we're still going to see a thousand reddit screencaps of dumbfrick r/gamingcirclejerk users trying to say all valve fans are just racists because they don't like smokesum peacepipe
Low effort bait. Try again.
Dota2 was the worst thing that ever happened to Valve.
the year that dota 2 released (2013) was the year that valve started shitting the bed. this picture needs no further explanation.
Wtf happened in 2013 to make them just... stop? You think with making all the money in the world, the creatives at Valve would see an opportunity to make their dream games or whatever
There was a mass layoff "purge" in 2013. Look it up.
This happened:
https://www.pcgamer.com/valve-layoff-hardware-mobile/
I fricking hate how Gabe canned the Ravenholm Shephard Arkane Imsim that was already half-done.
what the frick is the obsession with the plastic shader artstyles
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It was never a secret
It seems like Santa Monica took over the Valve HQ
Nobody will ever replace Demo for me.
SSS tier gameplay, design, and character.
>drawing vs in-game model
B8 harder newbie
Surprisingly braindead move from Valve
Also
>TF2 did officially get ported to Source 2, but specifically to serve as a basis for their fricking MOBA hero shooter
>TF2 Black person now imply their games has good artstyle
LMAO YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Old dicky bow man probably doesn't have a face rig yet lmao, he looks too serious on that image, idk about how valve writes dota characters but if they manage to give the deadlock fellas actually cool personalities it might work, since that's what gives TF2 characters like 70% of their charm anyways
@676725313
whoops meant for
Remember when people shitted on TF2 for it's cartoony artstyle? Yea, you guys were born at that time.
People shitted on TF2 because it was different from the trend of serious military shooters (which only got stronger until the mid 2010's)
People are now shitting on the new game because it's no different from the current trend of fairy fantastic cartroon hero MOBA-shooter.
They are not the same.
>the current trend of fairy fantastic cartroon hero MOBA-shooter.
name some current shooters that came out this or last year.
Overwatch 2?
Paladins?
Smite 2?
Valorant?
Valorant isn't a moba.
riot won
No one wants to play as someone's overweight philipino grandpa. Why do devs forget that ultimately, we don't actually want uggo normie representation and would much rather just play cool characters instead.
YOU KNOW WHAT
they already have an archer who shots green shit
and she is pretty
WE COULD HAVE HAD WINDRANGER
INSTEAD YOU YOU AND YOU ALL GET THIS FAT UGLY DEI GRANDMA
I'LL EVEN TAKE THE FRICKING SQUIRREL. AT LEAST HOODWINK ISN'T AN EYESORE.
mmkay but Mireska is all mine
@676725741
clever
>everybody shitted on TF2 when it came out for it's dogshit artstyle
>somehow this didn't happen
yep, this is why arguing on the internet is pointless.
Da fuk u duin here, geezer?
da one u argued with back then, they all hav moved on wit dey life, it been more than 10 years ago already
wat chu doin here, geezer?
why are you even comparing this to overwatch? at least overwatch looks decent
WHAT THE FRICK IS THIS HAHAHAHAH?!