>AI output already can't be copyrighted, so you're basically just slapping your name on a public domain work.
There's nothing legally dangerous about that. The danger is that AI outputs can belong to the copyright holders whose data was used in the creation of said AI's model.
>AI outputs can belong to the copyright holders whose data was used in the creation of said AI's model.
source? how would one prove it?
also >No gabe, i drew them all.
>source? how would one prove it?
By showing that an artwork bares strong, non-coincidental levels of similarity to a preexisting artwork, picrel
11 months ago
Anonymous
how much ai art do you think looks like spevific vidya box art or other copyrighted material? to the point where you can point at it and say "thats actually mine"?
also, source on your highly dubious and very moronic claim about copyright owners.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>how much ai art do you think looks like spevific vidya box art or other copyrighted material? to the point where you can point at it and say "thats actually mine"?
That's why AI art is risky to Valve; all it takes is one proompter accidentally generating an overfitted copyrighted image to cause a big lawsuit. >also, source on your highly dubious and very moronic claim about copyright owners.
What claim?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>That's why AI art is risky to Valve
It isn't, you got baited by a redditor. >all it takes is one proompter accidentally generating an overfitted copyrighted image to cause a big lawsuit.
There would be no lawsuits and it would have nothing to do with Valve.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>It isn't, you got baited by a redditor.
When Steam takes a 30% cut of a copyright-infringing work, they are absolutely liable >There would be no lawsuits and it would have nothing to do with Valve.
What the frick are you even talking about?
A) Its a single reddit post. Its faker than kpop jawlines. >>what claim? >AI outputs can belong to the copyright holders whose data was used in the creation of said AI's model
that one.
the only decision ive seen is regarding the prompter not copyrighting ai outputs. source on you claim?
There's a spreadsheet showing the dozens of AI slop games that have already been banned >the only decision ive seen is regarding the prompter not copyrighting ai outputs. source on you claim?
My source is copyright law
11 months ago
Anonymous
>When Steam takes a 30% cut of a copyright-infringing work, they are absolutely liable
No they aren't. And this is fake news.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>My source is copyright law
cite it. >There's a spreadsheet
show it
11 months ago
Anonymous
A) Its a single reddit post. Its faker than kpop jawlines. >>what claim? >AI outputs can belong to the copyright holders whose data was used in the creation of said AI's model
that one.
the only decision ive seen is regarding the prompter not copyrighting ai outputs. source on you claim?
11 months ago
Anonymous
How is that any different than someone photobashing images from Bloodborne the old fashioned way?
11 months ago
Anonymous
It isn't. Obviously you aren't likely to get sued for simply generating Bloodborne box art, but if you photobash Bloodborne box art and claim it as your own, that's different
>When Steam takes a 30% cut of a copyright-infringing work, they are absolutely liable
No they aren't. And this is fake news.
Under what law are they not liable?
>My source is copyright law
cite it. >There's a spreadsheet
show it
It's not infringement to use AI to make art. It's completely legal to do and always will be.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Not if the art you create is blatantly derivative of copyrighted art
11 months ago
Anonymous
so this "game banned from steam". what copyrighted work was it infringing on?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Steam doesn't know, which is why they're banning it
11 months ago
Anonymous
thats highly dubious.
basically vidya equivalent of thought crime.
has this yotally legitimate email been seen anywhere outside of that reddit post from anyone with a shred of credibility?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>highly dubious
11 months ago
Anonymous
sourve on ANY of those being banned specifically for using ai art.
pictures dont tell us anything.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Multiple articles and redditors claiming they've received word that Steam is banning them
11 months ago
Anonymous
1 image posted by 1 random redditor with no proof. That's the source of all of this. You are a fricking moron.
11 months ago
Anonymous
the dream is le dead, man. Just accept it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
kek
look at this cope >i-it's all o-over anon >just s-stop using it and p-pay me to take months to d-draw it for you
hahahahahaha.
no.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's over, Pajeet. AIslop is getting banned everywhere where it matters and it's even inbreeding its own art thanks to it being flooded everywhere especially when AIgays don't tag their slop as AI. Game Over man, Game Over.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The best part is, fetish artists will be the first out of work because even if furries and other degenerates decide to take an anti-ai stance, others wont and their fursonas will be ai replaced which will lead to less people paying for furryporn. With the death of furry porn, and other fetish porn (doesn't have to be furry), lots of artists will get mogged if they don't adapt. As the weak fall, the AI supporters will grow and grow and so will it's abilities. Eventually you'll have AI drawing entirely unique content from scratch and it'll be much sooner than you think.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Eventually you'll have AI drawing entirely unique content from scratch and it'll be much sooner than you think.
This happened last year.
Is there really anything wrong with AI creating things like background scenery?
There's nothing wrong with AI generating anything.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Nice. That armor is pretty consistent, except for that shield or scabbard thing at the left. Not sure what thats supposed to be.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Weapons and scabbards are probably the worst rendered thing to this day. A lot of it reminds me of AI art from like 2 years ago, where it kind of looks familiar but makes literally no sense upon closer inspection.
11 months ago
Anonymous
inpaint it
11 months ago
Anonymous
>AIgay doing something besides hitting the generate button.
Never gonna happen.
11 months ago
Anonymous
nice non answer.
you cant even fulfil your own reasoning.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You have no idea how burden of proof works
11 months ago
Anonymous
you're the one making the claim that copyright has been infringed.
prove it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>you're saying Donald Trump was indicted for a crime? PROVE HE COMMITTED THE CRIME
Literally 80 IQ post
1 image posted by 1 random redditor with no proof. That's the source of all of this. You are a fricking moron.
And a massive list of banned Steam games, many of which use AI art
11 months ago
Anonymous
your TDS is leaking.
also, prove infringement or your mother dies in her sleep.
It is to avoid any future suits against copyright. Its murky whether or not people have permission to use art for training machine learning. Its also murky on who gets permission to use a training set. Gaben is just covering his ass so nobody gets sued and he doesn’t get sued for helping distribute potential copyrighted materials.
>Its murky whether or not people have permission to use art for training machine learning
This is so annoying to me >human looks at hundreds of paintings and hundreds of real life photographs >gets inspired >makes a painting using everything he learned from observation >everyone cheers
>a digital brain looks at hundreds of thousands of paintings and millions of real life photographs >gets inspired >makes a painting using everything it learned from observation >everyone gets REALLY MAD AND FILES LAWSUITS
I for one welcome our AI overlords who might even read this post one day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyD6g47DHQk
>who the frick does that?
literally every painter with functional eyes that has ever existed you absolute moron
11 months ago
Anonymous
first you have to define what good means, doofus
I've listened to every Beatles song, that means I can write Beatles songs. I've listened to every Beethoven symphony, that means I can write Beethoven symphonies.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Cat's out of the bag.
Genie's out of the bottle.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Your argument falls flat because it would be Beethoven-inspired rather than an actual Beethoven symphony, among other artists it was trained with. In a musical sense, it's the next logical step from sampling.
11 months ago
Anonymous
A symphony that sounds like one of Beethoven's, yes. Pretty sure it's not possible to dig Beethoven up and have him write a new symphony so I can copy it.
Well, if you bothered looking at it on any level deeper than superficial, then yeah. You totally could. Next time you listen to a song identify the rhythm, cadence, notes, what sounds are particularly complimentary, etc.
>a digital brain >gets inspired
anon, there is no inspiration there. it paints what it "knows" or rather what was "fed" to it.
If you tell AI "draw a belt hanging on the chair" it will draw you anything from strange lines to a chair with a human-like waist but not what you ask for.
there is no inspiration there
Because there are only so many variations of sound waves and music theory has been studied for thousands of years?
Music is not hard anon. Playing it is just a physical and memory task, and making good music usually follows a set of patterns anyway. Completely uncomparable.
No, it's much simpler, they knew they are gonna have their shit pushed in by big corps.
Artists on the other hand don't have big corp money to defend their art. AI slop is built, from the ground up, on abusing the little guy. And then AI corps are cashing in on it.
>Artists on the other hand don't have big corp money to defend their art. AI slop is built, from the ground up, on abusing the little guy. And then AI corps are cashing in on it.
Are you living in another dimension? Who won the 2016 election in your reality?
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm talking about drawgays specifically, you mongoloid.
> AI slop is built, from the ground up, on abusing the little guy.
What "little guy"? AI models contain datasets of tens of millions of random pictures.
Do Twittergays really think that their particular drawings are stored on some harddrive as .png and the AI crops out pieces of it?
11 months ago
Anonymous
I love how the AIgays always try to move the goalposts.
>What "little guy"? AI models contain datasets of tens of millions of random pictures.
"Look, it's okay that I stole from you, because I stole from LOTS of other people, too, OKAY?"
11 months ago
Anonymous
Copyright infringement requires reproduction. The models don't contain enough data to hold millions of pictures, so the only way it can infringe is if someone specifically tries to copy an existing image. But that's stealing because you tried to copy someone's final work. You can't "steal" the concepts that make up an image, that's just... learning.
It's correct. If you're being technical and saying that derivative works are separate from reproduction, you're being obtuse. The point is that something has to be produced that can be compared to the original work to make a determination of infringement. Copyright law does not encode thoughtcrimes.
11 months ago
Anonymous
First you said reproduced (meaning copied/copies) and now you are just saying produced. Which is it and what is your actual point? Words have meanings.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Re-: again >Production: creation
If you're not recreating something that already exists in some capacity, I don't know how one would infringe on that original creation. So either you're creating an original work or a derivative work. Infringement requires the work be derivative. This isn't difficult.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>The models don't contain enough data to hold millions of pictures
That's an idiotic point and you know it. You technically can't even use a single pixel of a copyrighted work without permission because you're using something you don't own.
Fact is image generators are made by feeding copyrighted work into an algorithm. That's copyright infringement on a gigantic scale.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Art styles are not protected by copyright.
11 months ago
Anonymous
> You technically can't even use a single pixel of a copyrighted work without permission because you're using something you don't own.
yes you absolutely can you moron, you don't know how these things work.
The reason people are upset is because they can't stop it with copyright.
11 months ago
Anonymous
No, you can't. If you don't own it you're not allowed to use it.
> can't even use a single pixel > says a guy on an imageboard where people trade copywritten pixels all the time
Good thing AI models don't contain anybody's pixels.
They were built from pixels, trillions of them. They don't need to "contain the pixels".
11 months ago
Anonymous
> can't even use a single pixel > says a guy on an imageboard where people trade copywritten pixels all the time
Good thing AI models don't contain anybody's pixels.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>watch movie >enjoy it >tell my friends about it >police show up >arrested for copyright infringement >charged with illegal use of memories >failed to pay my memory subscription fee after paying for the movie + tip >forced into mickey mouse themed memory extractor >rendered a vegetable by the state
11 months ago
Anonymous
>spoiling someone on a film or book becomes a misdemeanor on the account of "emotional piracy"
11 months ago
Anonymous
This guy chose the android's side in that David cage game about Mexican robots.
It was already a cluttered mess when low effort unreal engine garbage was shat out onto the marketplace. Now people can just have Ai do most of the heavy lifting and generate lower effort garbage faster to flood the marketplace.
You mad your low effort porn slop you had a chatAPI and diffusion create got shot down immediately?
Pretty sure everyone is happy besides the perpetrators when Steam actually does something about the heaps of garbage people dump on the platform.
>let it sit on the store taking up space and clogging search results >potential copyright nightmares waiting to happen >yet another Steam Greenlight situation
it's smart to do ahead of time Rajeesh, Valve literally only stands to gain. AI games absolutely do not make enough money for them to consider otherwise.
>he thinks any big named company will be affected at all by this
they won't go all in on AI until this is resolved because it'd be stupid to do so otherwise, and if they do then Steam wouldn't stop them at that point because it'd be legal. Even then it's wishful thinking, do you unironically think every game will be made 100% with AI??
>Troons invade spaces where they're not wanted >AIgays invade spaces where they're not wanted
>Troons simultaneously want to be treated as women/men and not as women/men >AIgays simultaneously want to be treated as artists/programmers and not as artists/programmers
>Troons get upset when platforms ask to clarify if you're a man or a woman >AIgays get upset when platforms ask to clarify is something is computer-generated or not
>Troon social media has troons angrily admitting they're envious of real women/men >AIgay social media has AIgays angrily admitting they're envious of real arts/programmers
>Troons cope by trying to claim they pass as the real thing even though their uncanny features can be easily detected >AIgays cope by trying to claim they pass as the real thing even though their uncanny features can be easily detected
>go to a gay party >call everyone cis
and they say slippery slope isn't a thing. This troony doesn't even thing plain homosexuals are gay enough. LBG is no longer degenerate enough for trannies.
>Troons invade spaces where they're not wanted >AIgays invade spaces where they're not wanted
>Troons simultaneously want to be treated as women/men and not as women/men >AIgays simultaneously want to be treated as artists/programmers and not as artists/programmers
>Troons get upset when platforms ask to clarify if you're a man or a woman >AIgays get upset when platforms ask to clarify is something is computer-generated or not
>Troon social media has troons angrily admitting they're envious of real women/men >AIgay social media has AIgays angrily admitting they're envious of real arts/programmers
>Troons cope by trying to claim they pass as the real thing even though their uncanny features can be easily detected >AIgays cope by trying to claim they pass as the real thing even though their uncanny features can be easily detected
Anon, just STATE your game is AI generated or uses AI generated imagery. Set the precedent because people like you are on the backfoot in this issue. Taking a unilateral stance isn't helping anyone.
>as long a you modeled every vein in stalin boner yourser its good
So what you're saying is 99% of the shovelware should be taken off Steam since all of it is made out of assetflips?
>keeping PC gaming pure >let the floodgates open and already allows thousands of pure garbage on their store
Are you moronic? Oh wait you are a steam drone so it was given
If you think they're doing it based on any sort of quality based objection then you're a moron, they're just getting distance from the inevitably shitshow of how copyright law should apply to AI generated content.
All the AI bros have to do is prove they own all the data/assets used to generate the art.
That shouldn't be a problem right? You do own your work right AIbros?
The worst part about all this salt over generative AI is that corporations will still use it. Cracking down over 'copyright concerns' will only stop individuals and others who lack the resources to train a model entirely on their own IP.
Well, that and the fact that modern copyright law is corporatist bullshit.
Copyright protections on intellectual property were meant to only last a maximum of 28 years (14 years, then an option to renew for another 14 years).
The reasoning for this was to encourage innovation and reward people for generating valuable new ideas. So you got your 14-28 years to capitalize guaranteed but no longer to prevent companies and individuals sitting on their ONE IDEA for literally centuries and never creating anything new or innovative.
FRICK COPYRIGHT!
FRICK OP!
FRICK GAYBEN!
ALSO FRICK DISNEY FOR CAUSING ALL THIS!
>Cracking down over 'copyright concerns' will only stop individuals and others who lack the resources to train a model entirely on their own IP.
Just make your own art and train it on that anon. Shouldn't be a problem right?
>if you don't individually declare a war you can't possibly win on large, hyper corrupt global corporations, you aren't worth listening to
Frick off, apathy is death.
Fricking consoomer.
>Frick off, apathy is death.
You mean you? Whining about it online is sure gonna change things this time! Oh, I bet you're going to wait for another election to get stolen before you finally get off your ass and do anything.
>maximum of 28 years >and yet all models are trained on modern art that's been produced in past 5-10 years >and yet AI models are trained on someone elses work for free and then sold to others
it's like it's not about copyright but about plundering industry that doesn't have money to defend itself (unlike music industry)
AI gays are scam artists and deserve to be shot
The human element as established by law for years now. If a human creates something, it's fine.
Art generators will never and should never receive the same rights and protections that humans have
> muh "human element"
You are aware that level designers already use randomize noise functions to develop terrain textures and these functions are already calculated from datasets that include copywritten material.
Art designers don't actually paint rocks and dirt patches or cracks in brickwall paterns.
>AI homosexual >copyright bad! >Also AI homosexual >plasters his watermark all over his "art" to prevent "stealing" >seethes and melts when someone shares his "private" "paywalled" model
curious how that works, huh?
> why do AI gays use good copyright protected art and not free art?
An AI model uses every image it can scrape, some copy written, some not.
You are talking about Billions of images here. The AI doesn't have some sort of internal quality check to decide what is good or slop. All it cares about are the locations of pixels on a 512×512 grid.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Funny it wasn't an issue when music AI was developed. They used free works and never even touched copyrighted material...
I wonder why it happened that way with music... Hmmmmm....
11 months ago
Anonymous
Because there are only so many variations of sound waves and music theory has been studied for thousands of years?
Music is not hard anon. Playing it is just a physical and memory task, and making good music usually follows a set of patterns anyway. Completely uncomparable.
People are trained on products they live with anon, training means literally nothing.
Honestly
The worst part about all this salt over generative AI is that corporations will still use it. Cracking down over 'copyright concerns' will only stop individuals and others who lack the resources to train a model entirely on their own IP.
Well, that and the fact that modern copyright law is corporatist bullshit.
Copyright protections on intellectual property were meant to only last a maximum of 28 years (14 years, then an option to renew for another 14 years).
The reasoning for this was to encourage innovation and reward people for generating valuable new ideas. So you got your 14-28 years to capitalize guaranteed but no longer to prevent companies and individuals sitting on their ONE IDEA for literally centuries and never creating anything new or innovative.
FRICK COPYRIGHT!
FRICK OP!
FRICK GAYBEN!
ALSO FRICK DISNEY FOR CAUSING ALL THIS!
has it right.
The entire ANTI-AI movement is being pushed by megacorps and funneled through their onions liberals/LGBTLMNOP+ idiots as their front line offense sending them to complain about "non human art".
I've legitimately never seen so many corporate suckups in my life and I've seen a lot of super shit.
People against AI are legitimately moronic. A legit witch hunt funded by rainbow profile pic mega globo corps.
>People are trained on products they live with anon, training means literally nothing.
what evidence is there that the way an AI learns to draw a picture and the way a human learns to draw a picture are REMOTELY comparable? You can't learn how to draw just by looking at a bunch of pictures.
A human can do the AI approach just fine. Any human can take 5 different pictures off the internet and trace over them to create a ""new"" frankenstein of a picture.
This is correct.
The learning process is different and so are the results. The key difference being 'comprehension' of what is being learned.
A human learning to draw may start by copying artists they look up to, but they are able to naturally comprehend what they're drawing (for example another human) and they can then evolve and innovate their artstyle to be more original by drawing in other things they've experienced that have nothing to do with art as well as imagination.
An generative AI just creates associations between various pixel location data that is fed to it, allowing it to duplicate those associations blended with other associations from other images and semi-randomized by way of deliberately created 'gaps' in the data that get filled in by the program.
Again, the key here is comprehension. The AI doesn't know what it's generating, it's incapable of bringing inspiration from music it's listened to into an image it's creating or bringing real world experiences it's had into an art-piece symbolically.
What a waste of words, no it isn't correct and "comprehension" means jack shit as well as having no legal standing. You also don't know shit about how it works and are just spouting BS based off stuff you read.
Seriously, where the frick are all these anti-ai people coming from? They all spout the stupidest shit
11 months ago
Anonymous
I mean, I only studied generative AI at uni for my STEM degree last semester sure, what the frick would I know.
moron.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You took 1 class at school about AI, congratulations, you're a genius anon.
11 months ago
Anonymous
What about you moron-kun, what's your deep expertise?
11 months ago
Anonymous
10 years of software engineering anon. It sounds like you took a watered down version of AI for understanding sake.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Ah, so you have no idea what you are talking about, I see. I'm not even that anon btw.
11 months ago
Anonymous
11 months ago
Anonymous
You know even less about AI than the guy who took 1 semester, kek.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Anyone with a brain knows it's low effort slop. AIgays truly wonder why nobody wants bootleg knockoffs of the real thing.
11 months ago
Anonymous
And yet it would seem you learned nothing. Well done.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>last semester
You're not even a midwit, you're an actual mediocrity, have a nice day
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Seriously, where the frick are all these anti-ai people coming from?
Twitter and resetera.
>People are trained on products they live with anon, training means literally nothing.
then why do people train AI on good art and not shit deviant art sonic porn?
Everyone is going to use it anon, megacorps would use it anyway, and they'll get away with it. The important part is consumer.
Not that it matters, AI isn't going to disappear because morons don't like it. AI hate reminds me way too much of the whole Harry Potter is devil worshipping or Pokeman devil rituals. Just worthless losers looking for an opinion to have. People love to be haters, it's really easy.
You’re wrong anon. The whole point you’re basing this on is only taking into consideration mega corps protecting their IP.
Copyright law also protects small and medium sized artists/companies from these same megacorps you claim to be against. For example: I write a book, it becomes a cult classic, and I never sell the rights to it because I want my descendants to be able to reap the benefits of my work. Why should Disney or Amazon be allowed to remake, adapt, or do absolutely anything for profit with my idea because an arbitrary amount of time decided by the government has passed? It’s total bullshit.
Because no one should be allowed to sit on their one good idea for all of eternity.
Can you not fricking read?
I don't care if you want to allow your descendants to make infinite money by doing absolutely nothing of value.
They can come up with their own ideas, further, if you want to pass something down to them then invest the money you make from the book's sales.
Frick off with this shit that encourages the idea that people should be just 'born into success'. Your kids can work like everyone else.
By your logic we should nationalize all companies after the founder leaves and/or dies. Based commie moron.
>Copyright law also protects small and medium sized artists/companies from these same megacorps you claim to be against.
Tell me one time this has happened in recent history. When since the turn of the millennium has a single major corporation ever lost a trademark dispute with a small creator?
Big companies settle cases like this all the time. You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. And a lot of times, they’re not even in the wrong tbh. Some of the people claiming infringement are straight up grifting. Corpsjust don’t want to deal with the headache of a going back and forth of going to court or getting bad PR.
>Copyright law also protects small and medium sized artists/companies from these same megacorps you claim to be against.
Tell me one time this has happened in recent history. When since the turn of the millennium has a single major corporation ever lost a trademark dispute with a small creator?
If you want AI to be immediately banned just start making AI generated music with samples from popular bands.
israelite fricking HATE it when you touch the music industry and will ban it worldwide forever.
Good AI 'art' is garbage, it is funny though to see liberal hipsters scared about it replacing them but still I don't wont to see steam flooded with dogshit 'games' using Ai art everywhere. It was bad enough when every game started using unity, the degeneration of video games must be stopped and Gaben will help hold the gate.
>Games with assets stolen from other games is fine though
Its insane valve are looking this closely at games when there are so many with ripped assets from other games. There is no way for other companies to tell your AI asset used a model that was trained on copyright content. But you can easily tell when a game has a model stolen from another game
>based Gaben keeping PC gaming pure
There are worthless asset flips released every single day on Steam.
Plus you can still buy tons of gambling-induced games on there too.
What they want to control is that the AI they used is not fed copyrighted material, which is a very legitimate concern.
Depends what you mean by 'AI'.
If it just has to be convincing enough of a mimicry of human behaviour that's technically already possible but no one wants to do if because they'll get called a creep or perv or weirdo for it by Twitter (same reason sex/wife-bots will never be real).
If you mean a program capable of genuine comprehension and thought. Well then that's a pretty long way off.
Good. Now if they'll just make every dev show their code and prove their code was not created with AI assistance so only real programmers are allowed to submit games.
Frick AI
Steam or any other game store is not relevant. If YOU want to make a game with AI go ahead. If you develop some mindblowing shit out of it, take video of it and put it on youtube or twitter. GabeN will not stop innovation just because of his store.
pretty obvious that someone is seething hard that AI image generators exist. AI is a great thread topic though since you're guaranteed to get fuming mad people letting you know how much they hate AI
Still souless. Once you see a few AI art pieces, you realize they all look the same and have the same style.
I don't mind it appearing once or twice but I'd rather have real artists since it's distinct.
>deformed eyes and nose >deformed hands melting into the knee >clothing melting into the skin
How long have you continually spammed these types of deformed computer generated elves?
ai seethers always pop thier heads up whenever it's mentioned, so you'll see the same shitzo's. but THIS recent event is news. but there's really nothing to it, just a literal who dev showing an email of valve saying prove this art isn't stolen
>implying valve has the resources to look at every asset in every game on steam to make sure it doesn't use AI generated content >implying they give a shit
I see AI being a assistance tool in many cases. Imagine being an absolutely shitty artist, but you can doodle your stick figures and let the AI color it in with better art. Same thing for other mediums, models, etc. Using AI as an extremely advanced tool. We already have photoshop, it's a tool, it doesn't require a brush or a pen. AI will be like that, offering supplementary support as well as pure generation. And that's a good thing.
It's a time situation too. I can make 3D environments, but each one of these shots would take days, if not a week. This took about 2 hours. That's the difference between making this game and not making it, full-stop. Anti-AI people are basically just saying that if you're poor or unpopular and can't raise money or devote your entire life to development, you shouldn't be allowed to create.
Why do AIgays want to rush everything and make it fast? Devoting time and passion into something equals soul. I can only attribute this mindset to someone who only eats fast food and never does anything with their life.
If I were to try to make this game via traditional methods, I would die first. It's too much work for one person without utilizing tools and strategies to streamline the process. That's the harsh truth.
>AIgays see themselves as more useless than Phil Fish.
TOP KEK
11 months ago
Anonymous
Probably.
lol there's tons of solo devs that release games, you're just lazy
I'm an idiot. There's a bunch of stuff I have to learn and then make and not enough time to do it. Not everyone can be a genius, but I have a story that I'd like to tell and I see the means to get it done before me. So I'ma use them.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I have a story that I'd like to tell and I see the means to get it done before me
Quit bullshitting. If that were true you would've done it already.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm currently in the process, as you can see.
>umm i dont feel like it lol >btw i deserve money for it too
no
Money?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>umm i dont feel like it lol >btw i deserve money for it too
no
Improving efficiency has been a driving goal of the art industry for centuries before computers even existed. Art tech and tools have developed over thousands of years for the sole purpose of making the artistic process faster and easier. Unless you’re exclusively drawing cave paintings, you’re a hypocritical moron. AI doing the little dirty work details for artists is no different than artists using digital software to help speed up their drawing.
all that matters is stopping steam from being flooded by AI shovelware, pajeets can't make their own images to train ai off of so it's fine.
How transformative does it have to be to not be copyright infringement?
A symphony that sounds like one of Beethoven's, yes. Pretty sure it's not possible to dig Beethoven up and have him write a new symphony so I can copy it.
Yes. That's generally how it would work. The music industry has sampling be legally protected and not considered as infringement despite artists literally lifting beats from recordings for their own TO SELL. The only argument people have against it is that it needs to be a human being going through the process of photobashing it themselves which is already a dubious defense.
>How transformative does it have to be to not be copyright infringement?
The law says that it has to adds "new expression, meaning, or message" to the original work. The law has also said that a machine cannot add these things as intent is required for them, which machines lack.
The machine transforms via algorithm but the controller is still human. It is not self-autonomous.
>The machine transforms via algorithm but the controller is still human. It is not self-autonomous.
The end result was produced by a machine. AI this advanced is new, but in general is not. It has already been ruled that simply providing an input is not meaningful enough of an action to change that it was made by a computer. If the same set of instructions can be given by anyone untrained and create more or less the same output, it's not transformative.
All art is made with machines anon, no one out there is drawing on canvas and scanning that shit, they're working in digital programs which do massively heavy lifting for them.
In a few years you won't even be able to tell if art is AI and there's nothing anyone can do about it. We already went from everyone laughing over multi legs and no fingers to art that can do it completely. Personally I think Chat AI is going to be huge for customer support. Imagine every customer support person you can is a deep professional. Plus, they can have real people to review certain cases if the AI can't handle it.
>All art is made with machines anon,
Reductionism just makes you look like a homosexual. You are typing this message on a computer, not with a computer. The computer did not assist you to write to nearly the same level as an AI. I didn't even read the rest of your post.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>end result was produced by a machine
So? I'd argue that no other AI image can actually be perfectly replicated by another AI due to how many iterations it goes through in creating an image. It's transformative in its own right. I'd relate this somewhat to how computers worked back then, which were dedicated people whose sole job was to calculate and crunch numbers. Nowadays, a simple device does that for you, renamed calculator.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>So?
Are you serious? The law says that it matters, anon. The human element matters in copyright law, it doesn't matter what you're arguing. The courts already said you're wrong, and we're discussing legalities. And even in your example was wrong. Algorithms can't be copyrighted, only the implementation of those algorithms can be. Meaning the AI itself can be copyrighted, but its components and its products cannot be.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Meaning the AI itself can be copyrighted, but its components and its products cannot be.
That much is true unless it's made to be open source. The problem you propose is concentrated on the legalities of the software rather than the art produced itself. Steam is making a hasty decision in culling AI art when it is still nascent in the industry,
11 months ago
Anonymous
>The problem you propose is concentrated on the legalities of the software rather than the art produced itself.
Those two things are inherently and intrinsically linked and it only makes sense to play it safe before any landmark decisions are made.
>How transformative does it have to be to not be copyright infringement?
The law says that it has to adds "new expression, meaning, or message" to the original work. The law has also said that a machine cannot add these things as intent is required for them, which machines lack.
All art is made with machines anon, no one out there is drawing on canvas and scanning that shit, they're working in digital programs which do massively heavy lifting for them.
In a few years you won't even be able to tell if art is AI and there's nothing anyone can do about it. We already went from everyone laughing over multi legs and no fingers to art that can do it completely. Personally I think Chat AI is going to be huge for customer support. Imagine every customer support person you can is a deep professional. Plus, they can have real people to review certain cases if the AI can't handle it.
>In a few years you won't even be able to tell if art is AI and there's nothing anyone can do about it.
seems like the brakes have been put on, dont ya think? And with even more legislation in the EU and now from Gaben...I dont think your conclusion is the only one
>In a few years you won't even be able to tell if art is AI and there's nothing anyone can do about it
I love how you AItards have kept moving the timeframe further back since you started pushing this shit last year.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>In a few years you won't even be able to tell if art is AI
Top kek. Didn't you gays last year say this was going to happen in just a few months?
> software that has only been freely available to the general public for about a year or so > "Haha, hurry up guis u said it would be perfected by now! 2 more weeks huh?"
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Haha, hurry up guis u said it would be perfected by now!
You literally did.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>u said it would be perfected by now! 2 more weeks huh?
Yes, that's what happened. AI shills kept saying this shit was going to be perfect every in just a few weeks or just a few months,
link one single post from 2022 saying AI art will be perfect by 2023. it should be easy to find one. I’ll wait
11 months ago
Anonymous
>u said it would be perfected by now! 2 more weeks huh?
Yes, that's what happened. AI shills kept saying this shit was going to be perfect every in just a few weeks or just a few months,
11 months ago
Anonymous
Let it cook.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>make up ai community boogieman entity >"twoooooo weeeeeeek" >ANON ANON LOOK AT THIS STRAWMAN I MADE
AI already made progress smooth brain, and it still is.
11 months ago
Anonymous
i remember you Black folk were in absolute disbelief when it came to gpt, dalle, and character ai.
IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS, AI will pretty will own the entertainment industry completely
so you take the fight against asset flips, zero effort porn games, shit you'd find on newgrounds back in the day, stolen assets etc that's already on steam or do you just seethe about AI?
You can still use AI, just checked. The only rule is that you have to create the art that the AI learns from. Which is easy to do if you're already pretty good at art.
anti AI luddites are already front runners for KWAB of the decade. i think only shazam gays are competing with them. AI has destroyed you in the span of a year and a half
There is a massive market in grifters using AI generated books. They troll through the highest sellers and find iterations to copy, mass produce, and sell on the market. The big issue is that grifters sell the process to other wannabe grifters, so it's an issue that's exponentially growing. Instead of stopping it, Amazon allows it to happen because they make money every time some grandma buys her grandson an AI book because she doesn't know the difference. Steams are already so polluted with shitty porn and low quality games that trying to stop the flood of AI games is a stand in the right direction towards keeping the integrity of their catalog.
>inspiration (ethical and moral theft) is now considered ilegal by valve's standards
Ok, now apply those same rules to indieBlack folk and their moronic pixel/PS1-inspired garbage and we'll call it even.
it's refreshing to see an AI thread that isn't full of pajeets fellating it to the maximum. if you thought early access/greenlight games were slop, AI would enable games 10 times worse. also, AI is not going to allow (You), smelly NEET that doesn't know the first thing about coding, to make your waifu real and allow you to make 10/10 video game kino in your sleep
AI will be 10 times better though. Early access games are garbage because they lack resources. AI is going to basically be an infinite resource to use to create.
He's so proud of it that he spams it in every thread. Seriously, look at the archives. Every single AI thread has this gay spamming his AI garbage to show off what he considers his masterpiece.
I like Yoshida though why wouldn't I prompt that? We were talking about video games though, once VidyaGPT comes out, it will help you make stuff. Just like ChatGPT can help you write poems or papers or how the image diffusers help you make art.
Keyword is transformative. See: the music industry's take on sampling.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The music industry asks permission from the copyright holders and producers to use samples, jackass. What's with AIgays getting basic legal info wrong?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Not ALL mind you. I'd wager most sampling in music do not even have the express permission from the composers and publishers, especially those that are in niche and underground circles.
11 months ago
Anonymous
No, sampling litigation is mostly limited to old white rockers and writers slipping their hands into the pockets of black artists who found a hit. The Blurred Lines thing was such a big deal because it was basically the OJ trial of the lawsuit type. They made sure it didn't happen again.
>autistic semantics argument
There are more images contained in any given model than in the physical realm spanning the thousands of years of human history. Finding it or creating it is not relevant. We're creating and presenting new art using AI as the medium.
Google doesn't create art or anything new(unless you use the new AI anyway).
11 months ago
Anonymous
Everyone already knows that AI can only copy/paste pre-existing work, this isn't new information.
11 months ago
Anonymous
No one knows that, only idiots parrot that nonsense.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's not exactly copy+paste because it samples a collection of images then forms A NEW (SEE: NEW) image based on that. It'd be like copying a text, then the paste output would be an anagram of it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Even that's not really correct. It's basically DLSS but instead of creating pixels to fill in and smooth out an upscaled frame, it "denoises" towards what the model says a given word should make a given pixel look like.
> t's the equivalent of typing in something in Google and proclaiming you made it
This hamburger did not exist on Google. Nor did it exist before I generated it.
You can't generate this hamburger, because you do not have the LoRA that I trained myself on your computer
Can you blame them? AIjeets and neets actually believe that a glorified Google search program that copy pastes other peoples work is somehow "magic", lmao!
https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ01041697.html
DLsite did scrub alot of AI generated stuff but there are some exceptions
https://cs-circle.dlsite.com/hc/en-us/articles/14941627991321-Regarding-the-sale-of-AI-generated-works
It isn't, the culling and the alarmist rhetoric is overkill. One way how DLsite actually prevents flooding is that there is a time limit on your next AI-generated project and it's about 1 month.
>tmw you realize that from now on devs will use ai as an excuse for bad design >tmw shitters on Ganker, twitter and reddit will use the word "ai generated" to mean anything bad including re-used assets, stupidity and downright laziness
yeah I want an actual MMORPG, one with generated content and actual RPG elements.
A good AI would be like a dungeon master
Can you imagine if towns and cities and quest hubs had a bit of life to them, quests being generated on the fly. You could find an NPC, talk to them about their day, build a relationship with them, and maybe get a discount. A lot of those interactions only have so many moving parts/levers to make them work, and AI could fill in the content part using the general frameworks to guide it.
Or imagine you're playing a game where disconnecting isn't recoverable. LoL/DOTA2/some shooters. You could have AI jump in as a bot with a skill level similar to the team they are on and continue to fight.
In fact, having AI support scaffolding to work with. There was a story writer which had a ton of tools for writing fantasy and could help you brainstorm.
Is this another fake or bait article? Some Black person has been seething about AI for weeks posting mostly fake shit daily. [...]
AI is here to stay you failed artgays and writer.
If you wear clothing to retain warmth, then you didn't progress in any way. You didn't do anything but put on clothsloping. Real progress can only be done through personal evolution.
>comparing trying to get work done efficiently to people shitting out assets to try to milk as much money as possible with as little "work" as possible
It'll never stop amazing me out how the videogames board is filled with so many luddite subhumans. The entire medium owes everything to advancements in tech.
This would be like if you opposed the jump to 3D all the way back in the 90s. Absolutely moronic.
>This would be like if you opposed the jump to 3D all the way back in the 90s. Absolutely moronic.
Super Mario 64 and Quake ruined their respective genres and I'm tired of zoomies pretending otherwise
Not just Ganker, a lot of the mainstream media is covering this. It's so funny. Gaben is getting this weird kind of positive coverage while he's still selling games with AI. He's probably laughing.
We have to follow Japan's ruling in this. AI art should be allowed BUT with restrictions to prevent market flooding and blatant non-transformative works that are not original enough.
True, the output will always be judged accordingly via "substantial similarity" like all iterative works are.
In my opinion, what anon posted here
For me it's FFT elves
No one knows that, only idiots parrot that nonsense.
>autistic semantics argument
There are more images contained in any given model than in the physical realm spanning the thousands of years of human history. Finding it or creating it is not relevant. We're creating and presenting new art using AI as the medium.
Google doesn't create art or anything new(unless you use the new AI anyway).
>This would be like if you opposed the jump to 3D all the way back in the 90s.
Some people were lol. I remember people like this in the early 2000s.
This stuff is more transformative than the fanart pre-AI though, and you don't see SE suing people like Shinichi Kobe. They're elves for starters and secondly they're rendered very differently.
Do a side by side comparison first and foremost and show it to some anons, if they confuse your art being done by the original then you have a problem in your hands.
Feel free. I don't want to waste my time doing that.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You already waste your time making bootleg knockoffs from Yoshida. You got all the time in the world you useless homosexual lmao.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not wasting my time doing that, it's fun 🙂
11 months ago
Anonymous
You gotta expand your prompts. It legit looks too much like Yoshida's work. I'm approaching this with you in good faith that you are looking to sell this work in some form.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Not looking to sell but you could sell it just like people used to sell Yoshida fanart, particularly profile pictures. You guys act like every fan artist instantly gets sued for copying a style, it's a weird and delusional grasping argument.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Fan artists actually do something called drawing instead of copy pasting, Pajeet. You can quit pretending on being something you'll never be.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>luddite argument
It's not going away man. Either tie the noose or grow up. It's not healthy seething every day.
inpaint it
I just prompt something else usually.
11 months ago
Anonymous
My eyes glaze over as they are all the same.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Pretty much like the real stuff. That's why it's a beloved art style, that nice consistency.
Fanart itself is transformative, anon
[...]
This [...] would actually be a good level of transformative to stand as an "original" work.
And this is fan art.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Except the originals don't make my eyes glaze over. They're still different.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Fanart itself is transformative, anon
>luddite argument
It's not going away man. Either tie the noose or grow up. It's not healthy seething every day.
[...]
I just prompt something else usually.
This
Good morning, sirs.
would actually be a good level of transformative to stand as an "original" work.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Fan artists do get sued when they try to create a commercial product. That's why they try to use legal loopholes through things like general commissions and limited production work that isn't released to the market.
It's the only reason derivative works like doujinshi products in Japan are allowed to be sold, because they're done in limited quantities for events and aren't mass produced sales. It's also why fan work can be pirated and nobody can issue claims.
Also AI art literally uses the data from the original work and sampling lost in court.
11 months ago
Anonymous
We need to adopt the Japanese method.
11 months ago
Anonymous
We already have it. Single event issues for conventions are already a thing. Just like Japan you can only do it in physical format. Digital distribution counts as a mass produced and distributed product.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Huh, I didn't know that. What exactly is the western equivalent of a doujin circle?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Fanzines in the 70s through 90s did it. The internet killed it off for the most part, but it still exists. That's why fan artists can do limited print sales.
Why would you have a problem? You can't copyright styles, and large companies like Disney have been known to just get their artists to copy other artists' style to get similar results.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>you can't copyright styles
True BUT your work can and will be confused as a Yoshida work so it's a no-go. That's the ruling a lawyer will hit you with. Simple solution is to transform it further. >Disney
Disney, especially in the 2D era, literally brings in the artist to create a style for the film they want to do. Hence nearly each film looks different like Lilo and Stitch from Chris Sanders to Glen Keane being ultimately Disney' home style.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>True BUT your work can and will be confused as a Yoshida work
Copyright only applies to a specific work. They have to grab a specific image and say you infringed on that specific work. "Confusion" can apply to trademark but that's a different beast.
11 months ago
Anonymous
All I'm asking is to at least add another prompt and do some editing yourself. It'll come out better rather than being ultra-derivative. Come on, anon.
AI is going to help me make a homosex Black Lives Matter Mass Effect ripoff so I can get rich off ESG bux and there is NOTHING Gaben can do to stop me!
>almost nonstop threads on this since the news broke >"IT'S JUST REDDIT LOL DON'T BELIEVE THE LIES IMAGINE BEING GULLIBLE"
I have not seen a single person legitimately getting upset over this that isn't mad they can't try and game the system by selling barebones VN trash in massive quantities
>almost nonstop threads on this since the news broke
you mean mentally ill, mindbroken trannies autistically lost the same thread over and over?
I have NEVER seen such behavior and am totally shocked at this revelation!
lmao >this single reddit post with no receipts and no reproduction anywhere is TOTALLY legitimate! >Valve hasn't said anything because... they just won't ok!? >ITS REAL JUST LIKE MY INVERTED PENIS vegana
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Still coping >Oh no my fellow curry Black folk! I'll have to actually learn to draw? AAAIIEEEEE!
show ai prompters claiming to be artists
would be funny, but ive never seen it
11 months ago
Anonymous
Takes literal seconds if you go on Pinterest, Artstation, or Deviantart. You have thousands of accounts filled with AIslop.
11 months ago
Anonymous
thats not them claiming to be artists though. thats them posting art.
11 months ago
Anonymous
11 months ago
Anonymous
While that 'person' is irredeemably moronic, there is no claim of being an artist except maybe the comparison of all artists to hitler.
post another though, its funny. and sad.
11 months ago
Anonymous
show ai prompters claiming to be artists
would be funny, but ive never seen it
11 months ago
Anonymous
>AI is a great artist. >AI
literally right there.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>it got so bad that the Japanese literally threatened pixiv and forced pixiv to separate AI, and if you submit AI work that isn't properly labeled your AI work you're banned >also pixiv owns all AI submissions >and they don't allow it in any of their contests
11 months ago
Anonymous
11 months ago
Anonymous
>ai "artist" >a pajeet
name a more iconic duo
11 months ago
Anonymous
saying ai art is art is not claiming tobe an artist.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Suhail
Top Kek, everytime it's either a troony or a pajeet.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>suhail
Of course.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>1.5 hours and it still looks like utter trash
11 months ago
Anonymous
1.5 hours just to come up with a proompt. AIjeets are unimaginably moronic.
it's unironically not a bad thing if you actually want ai to thrive and grow. the only reason normalgays hate ai is because it's just being spammed non-stop on various art portals. the publicity isn't a good thing.
literally nobody except for-profit artists actually care about the "ethical" issues
Understandable, it could be a copyright nightmare in the future. Could also increase the standard of AI gens, some of them are hard to tell so just stay quiet.
I just want AI so I can make movies of Disney IPs while making the characters extremely racists criminals who love rape. I just want to poison all of Disney's IPs with AI
Here are some considerations if you are looking to create games/novels/films/etc. with AI:
Is the work transformative enough? (Color palette, composition, scale, aesthetic, etc.)
Is the work trying to expropriate the market of the originals? (usually only a problem for big corporations)
Is the work labeled as AI generated or uses AI generated media? (for the sake of transparency)
If you pass these tests, then in my book you're good to go.
so with modders adding chatgpt ai and shit into games, and other AAA devs talking about adding nu-ai into their slop as well.
will it conflate the old 'knowledge' of what ai stood for in games?
ie. when capcom says DD2's pawns will have good ai, will dumb frick journo's think they mean chatgpt and get pissy when they don't act accordingly
>all these butthurt troons and gays upset that they're about to made irrelevant by AI >Think Valve is doing it for integrity reasons rather than scared shitless about copyright lawsuits
I'm enjoying every minute of it. After all, "learn to code" like you trannies said to the coal miners years ago.
Valve isnt doing anything.
Its troons baking up another batch of delusion because they don't like reality.
Show me the anti-AI policy in Valve's dev agreement lol.
By the way everyone, I just want to say before this thread caps that I had a lot of fun shitposting with you guys tonight. This was a great thread. Good work everyone.
>Steam puts up barrier to stop AIslop >rajesh, bin chin ling and paco aren't able to flood the market with garbage >meanwhile others try to step it up and force the AI to improve so it can get past the "wall"
I only see this as a win, no garbage spam and once the AI makes over that barrier, the crybaby artsy games are over
>rajesh, bin chin ling and paco aren't able to flood the market with garbage >What are asset flips
But they have been doing so for 10 years with GL and then SD.
Everyone talks about how idea guys can just do whatever they want now unrestrained by programming or artistic skill but there still hasn't been a single piece of media of value to come out of AI
lmao
moron
artgays are truly the dumbest, most replaceable c**ts ever
learn to code sweaty
11 months ago
Anonymous
Not true considering AIgays need artists to piggyback off in the first place, now continue to cope.
11 months ago
Anonymous
keep seething whilw being replaced by diffusion models.
11 months ago
Anonymous
When's that gonna happen, in 2 more weeks?
11 months ago
Anonymous
ask the trannies kvetching about ai art "taking jobs away"
11 months ago
Anonymous
I lmao.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>makes no point
you'rw just clicking things now.
time to go outside and get some fresh air.
no doubt there will be another thread up when you get back.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You type like an ESL, no wonder you love the AIsloppa.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Out.
11 months ago
Anonymous
> AIgays need artists to piggyback off in the first place
There's already a massive repository of images online that grows and grows each day.
As long as you post something online, you are only feeding the monster you despise.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's already starting to create a feedback loop with the fricked up hands
11 months ago
Anonymous
Its new name will be IA for Inbred Art. The 7 fingers on each hand also don't help.
>They used "AI" aka enemy patterns and random face expressions to make the game
The 90's did the same. AI is a buzzword, and its literally not the same copyright-stealing tech shit Valve is banning
AIgays are reaching for the cope
> “In fact, we have already integrated some latest AI technologies into Honkai: Star Rail. These techniques have been implemented to improve the facial appearance and behavioral patterns of characters, enhancing the immersive gaming experience with a more natural representation overall.”
Do you somehow this does not also extend to character design?
hardly
maybe he learned from greenlight
>cracking down on NFT shit
>cracking down on AI slop
if the AI shit sucks no one will buy it, what's the problem? Why do people actively need to take action against it?
games are soulless enough as it is.
so they will just be DOA, what's the problem?
my filter list on steam is already too big. Filtering AI slop individually is gonna be a pain in the ass.
doesn't matter
Surely AI could be programmed to give games soul
because we are called to cast out evil
It's a very dangerous area for IP laws. AI output already can't be copyrighted, so you're basically just slapping your name on a public domain work.
Great, get rid of copyright altogether
I agree, but this will have no bearing on that one way or the other.
>AI output already can't be copyrighted, so you're basically just slapping your name on a public domain work.
There's nothing legally dangerous about that. The danger is that AI outputs can belong to the copyright holders whose data was used in the creation of said AI's model.
>AI outputs can belong to the copyright holders whose data was used in the creation of said AI's model.
source? how would one prove it?
also
>No gabe, i drew them all.
>source? how would one prove it?
By showing that an artwork bares strong, non-coincidental levels of similarity to a preexisting artwork, picrel
how much ai art do you think looks like spevific vidya box art or other copyrighted material? to the point where you can point at it and say "thats actually mine"?
also, source on your highly dubious and very moronic claim about copyright owners.
>how much ai art do you think looks like spevific vidya box art or other copyrighted material? to the point where you can point at it and say "thats actually mine"?
That's why AI art is risky to Valve; all it takes is one proompter accidentally generating an overfitted copyrighted image to cause a big lawsuit.
>also, source on your highly dubious and very moronic claim about copyright owners.
What claim?
>That's why AI art is risky to Valve
It isn't, you got baited by a redditor.
>all it takes is one proompter accidentally generating an overfitted copyrighted image to cause a big lawsuit.
There would be no lawsuits and it would have nothing to do with Valve.
>It isn't, you got baited by a redditor.
When Steam takes a 30% cut of a copyright-infringing work, they are absolutely liable
>There would be no lawsuits and it would have nothing to do with Valve.
What the frick are you even talking about?
There's a spreadsheet showing the dozens of AI slop games that have already been banned
>the only decision ive seen is regarding the prompter not copyrighting ai outputs. source on you claim?
My source is copyright law
>When Steam takes a 30% cut of a copyright-infringing work, they are absolutely liable
No they aren't. And this is fake news.
>My source is copyright law
cite it.
>There's a spreadsheet
show it
A) Its a single reddit post. Its faker than kpop jawlines.
>>what claim?
>AI outputs can belong to the copyright holders whose data was used in the creation of said AI's model
that one.
the only decision ive seen is regarding the prompter not copyrighting ai outputs. source on you claim?
How is that any different than someone photobashing images from Bloodborne the old fashioned way?
It isn't. Obviously you aren't likely to get sued for simply generating Bloodborne box art, but if you photobash Bloodborne box art and claim it as your own, that's different
Under what law are they not liable?
Picrel
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aAbrEDNa2NmgntrKtij0RuxKneiFcTJisGyfMUv2nnM/edit?pli=1
It's not infringement to use AI to make art. It's completely legal to do and always will be.
Not if the art you create is blatantly derivative of copyrighted art
so this "game banned from steam". what copyrighted work was it infringing on?
Steam doesn't know, which is why they're banning it
thats highly dubious.
basically vidya equivalent of thought crime.
has this yotally legitimate email been seen anywhere outside of that reddit post from anyone with a shred of credibility?
>highly dubious
sourve on ANY of those being banned specifically for using ai art.
pictures dont tell us anything.
Multiple articles and redditors claiming they've received word that Steam is banning them
1 image posted by 1 random redditor with no proof. That's the source of all of this. You are a fricking moron.
the dream is le dead, man. Just accept it.
kek
look at this cope
>i-it's all o-over anon
>just s-stop using it and p-pay me to take months to d-draw it for you
hahahahahaha.
no.
It's over, Pajeet. AIslop is getting banned everywhere where it matters and it's even inbreeding its own art thanks to it being flooded everywhere especially when AIgays don't tag their slop as AI. Game Over man, Game Over.
The best part is, fetish artists will be the first out of work because even if furries and other degenerates decide to take an anti-ai stance, others wont and their fursonas will be ai replaced which will lead to less people paying for furryporn. With the death of furry porn, and other fetish porn (doesn't have to be furry), lots of artists will get mogged if they don't adapt. As the weak fall, the AI supporters will grow and grow and so will it's abilities. Eventually you'll have AI drawing entirely unique content from scratch and it'll be much sooner than you think.
>Eventually you'll have AI drawing entirely unique content from scratch and it'll be much sooner than you think.
This happened last year.
There's nothing wrong with AI generating anything.
Nice. That armor is pretty consistent, except for that shield or scabbard thing at the left. Not sure what thats supposed to be.
Weapons and scabbards are probably the worst rendered thing to this day. A lot of it reminds me of AI art from like 2 years ago, where it kind of looks familiar but makes literally no sense upon closer inspection.
inpaint it
>AIgay doing something besides hitting the generate button.
Never gonna happen.
nice non answer.
you cant even fulfil your own reasoning.
You have no idea how burden of proof works
you're the one making the claim that copyright has been infringed.
prove it.
>you're saying Donald Trump was indicted for a crime? PROVE HE COMMITTED THE CRIME
Literally 80 IQ post
And a massive list of banned Steam games, many of which use AI art
your TDS is leaking.
also, prove infringement or your mother dies in her sleep.
It is to avoid any future suits against copyright. Its murky whether or not people have permission to use art for training machine learning. Its also murky on who gets permission to use a training set. Gaben is just covering his ass so nobody gets sued and he doesn’t get sued for helping distribute potential copyrighted materials.
>Its murky whether or not people have permission to use art for training machine learning
This is so annoying to me
>human looks at hundreds of paintings and hundreds of real life photographs
>gets inspired
>makes a painting using everything he learned from observation
>everyone cheers
>a digital brain looks at hundreds of thousands of paintings and millions of real life photographs
>gets inspired
>makes a painting using everything it learned from observation
>everyone gets REALLY MAD AND FILES LAWSUITS
I for one welcome our AI overlords who might even read this post one day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyD6g47DHQk
a painting using everything he learned from observation
who the frick does that? Do you also think that listening to a thousand songs means you can also write equally good songs?
>who the frick does that?
literally every painter with functional eyes that has ever existed you absolute moron
I've listened to every Beatles song, that means I can write Beatles songs. I've listened to every Beethoven symphony, that means I can write Beethoven symphonies.
Cat's out of the bag.
Genie's out of the bottle.
Your argument falls flat because it would be Beethoven-inspired rather than an actual Beethoven symphony, among other artists it was trained with. In a musical sense, it's the next logical step from sampling.
A symphony that sounds like one of Beethoven's, yes. Pretty sure it's not possible to dig Beethoven up and have him write a new symphony so I can copy it.
first you have to define what good means, doofus
Well, if you bothered looking at it on any level deeper than superficial, then yeah. You totally could. Next time you listen to a song identify the rhythm, cadence, notes, what sounds are particularly complimentary, etc.
>a digital brain
>gets inspired
anon, there is no inspiration there. it paints what it "knows" or rather what was "fed" to it.
If you tell AI "draw a belt hanging on the chair" it will draw you anything from strange lines to a chair with a human-like waist but not what you ask for.
there is no inspiration there
No, it's much simpler, they knew they are gonna have their shit pushed in by big corps.
Artists on the other hand don't have big corp money to defend their art. AI slop is built, from the ground up, on abusing the little guy. And then AI corps are cashing in on it.
>Artists on the other hand don't have big corp money to defend their art. AI slop is built, from the ground up, on abusing the little guy. And then AI corps are cashing in on it.
Are you living in another dimension? Who won the 2016 election in your reality?
I'm talking about drawgays specifically, you mongoloid.
> AI slop is built, from the ground up, on abusing the little guy.
What "little guy"? AI models contain datasets of tens of millions of random pictures.
Do Twittergays really think that their particular drawings are stored on some harddrive as .png and the AI crops out pieces of it?
I love how the AIgays always try to move the goalposts.
>What "little guy"? AI models contain datasets of tens of millions of random pictures.
"Look, it's okay that I stole from you, because I stole from LOTS of other people, too, OKAY?"
Copyright infringement requires reproduction. The models don't contain enough data to hold millions of pictures, so the only way it can infringe is if someone specifically tries to copy an existing image. But that's stealing because you tried to copy someone's final work. You can't "steal" the concepts that make up an image, that's just... learning.
>Copyright infringement requires reproduction.
That's wrong.
It's correct. If you're being technical and saying that derivative works are separate from reproduction, you're being obtuse. The point is that something has to be produced that can be compared to the original work to make a determination of infringement. Copyright law does not encode thoughtcrimes.
First you said reproduced (meaning copied/copies) and now you are just saying produced. Which is it and what is your actual point? Words have meanings.
>Re-: again
>Production: creation
If you're not recreating something that already exists in some capacity, I don't know how one would infringe on that original creation. So either you're creating an original work or a derivative work. Infringement requires the work be derivative. This isn't difficult.
>The models don't contain enough data to hold millions of pictures
That's an idiotic point and you know it. You technically can't even use a single pixel of a copyrighted work without permission because you're using something you don't own.
Fact is image generators are made by feeding copyrighted work into an algorithm. That's copyright infringement on a gigantic scale.
Art styles are not protected by copyright.
> You technically can't even use a single pixel of a copyrighted work without permission because you're using something you don't own.
yes you absolutely can you moron, you don't know how these things work.
The reason people are upset is because they can't stop it with copyright.
No, you can't. If you don't own it you're not allowed to use it.
They were built from pixels, trillions of them. They don't need to "contain the pixels".
> can't even use a single pixel
> says a guy on an imageboard where people trade copywritten pixels all the time
Good thing AI models don't contain anybody's pixels.
>watch movie
>enjoy it
>tell my friends about it
>police show up
>arrested for copyright infringement
>charged with illegal use of memories
>failed to pay my memory subscription fee after paying for the movie + tip
>forced into mickey mouse themed memory extractor
>rendered a vegetable by the state
>spoiling someone on a film or book becomes a misdemeanor on the account of "emotional piracy"
This guy chose the android's side in that David cage game about Mexican robots.
>IF EA sucks no one will buy their games
Hello rajesh
So there's less trash to sort through.
It was already a cluttered mess when low effort unreal engine garbage was shat out onto the marketplace. Now people can just have Ai do most of the heavy lifting and generate lower effort garbage faster to flood the marketplace.
You mad your low effort porn slop you had a chatAPI and diffusion create got shot down immediately?
Pretty sure everyone is happy besides the perpetrators when Steam actually does something about the heaps of garbage people dump on the platform.
Because ai gays spam platforms with their garbage.
>what's the problem?
Probably the fact that Bangladeshi's will drown the site in mass produced AI slop
slippery slope
because it won't fricking spam the store with shit in the first place?
no one wants to swim through a sea of shit when looking for new games
Clearly you do if you've ever looked for new games through a store. Don't kid yourself homosexual, you know you eat shit.
>no one wants to swim through a sea of shit when looking for new games
This has been an issue for almost a decade now since Greenlight became a thing.
>just make the problem worse bro
oh ok you're right lets just make things worse for no reason
>making things worse
It's already at rock bottom. You can't make a mangled corpse "worse"
money. it's always about the money. ai generated stuff is not copyrightable, so gaben is just a greedy israelite.
Sure, israelite
Projecting a little too hard there Shlomo
Imagine the asset flip problem on steroids.
AI invalidates asset flips because it creates 100% unique content.
>let it sit on the store taking up space and clogging search results
>potential copyright nightmares waiting to happen
>yet another Steam Greenlight situation
it's smart to do ahead of time Rajeesh, Valve literally only stands to gain. AI games absolutely do not make enough money for them to consider otherwise.
>valve banning all future unreal and unity and activision and nvidia and EA and ubisoft games
>gaining
what?
>he thinks any big named company will be affected at all by this
they won't go all in on AI until this is resolved because it'd be stupid to do so otherwise, and if they do then Steam wouldn't stop them at that point because it'd be legal. Even then it's wishful thinking, do you unironically think every game will be made 100% with AI??
Don’t argue with the fools on here. I’m putting my game on Steam anyway. It’s impossible to tell if assets are made using AI.
>It’s impossible to tell if assets are made using AI, also you can't tell that I'm a man
AIgays are now coping the same way trannies do.
Leftists like your ilk are always the biggest luddites.
That was pretty evident early on.
>Troons invade spaces where they're not wanted
>AIgays invade spaces where they're not wanted
>Troons simultaneously want to be treated as women/men and not as women/men
>AIgays simultaneously want to be treated as artists/programmers and not as artists/programmers
>Troons get upset when platforms ask to clarify if you're a man or a woman
>AIgays get upset when platforms ask to clarify is something is computer-generated or not
>Troon social media has troons angrily admitting they're envious of real women/men
>AIgay social media has AIgays angrily admitting they're envious of real arts/programmers
>Troons cope by trying to claim they pass as the real thing even though their uncanny features can be easily detected
>AIgays cope by trying to claim they pass as the real thing even though their uncanny features can be easily detected
What a bizarre and desperate analogy
You will never pass, AI troon.
>he got btfo out of a job since his moeshit he shills on twitter was replaced by a 'generate' button
>go to a gay party
>call everyone cis
and they say slippery slope isn't a thing. This troony doesn't even thing plain homosexuals are gay enough. LBG is no longer degenerate enough for trannies.
rent free
>It’s impossible to tell if assets are made using AI.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Anon, just STATE your game is AI generated or uses AI generated imagery. Set the precedent because people like you are on the backfoot in this issue. Taking a unilateral stance isn't helping anyone.
>AIgoyslops are this delusional
pfwaahahahahaha
"gamers" would rather remove a convenient symptom than actually find a solution to the real problem
>just accept dogshit shovelware clouding the shop
Frick off
You gays have been accepting it for TEN YEARS since Greenlight.
AHAHAHAHAHAAHA, KYS SHILL
good morning sir
>If the crack cocaine devastates neighborhoods no one will buy it, what's the problem?
AIjeets see no problem with AIslop being flooded everywhere considering they shit all over their streets and drinking water.
meanwhilst
~HYPER BONER PEDO HITLER STALIN SIMULATOR~
absolutely fine
Why shouldn't it be?
Valve's ok with it as long as it isn't Asian
as long a you modeled every vein in stalin boner yourser its good
>as long a you modeled every vein in stalin boner yourser its good
So what you're saying is 99% of the shovelware should be taken off Steam since all of it is made out of assetflips?
Good. Already enough “indie dev” slop on steam. Don’t need more bullshit games with 0 effort put into them.
Low effort games are for money laundering, no indie games
>keeping PC gaming pure
>let the floodgates open and already allows thousands of pure garbage on their store
Are you moronic? Oh wait you are a steam drone so it was given
AI Sirs...is it over?
AI is kill. Long live BESPOKE asset gen!
Now pay 25$ USD for "Real MilSim Weapon Pack vol 2" to receive a BONUS "Bank Heist Interior Set" for 38% Off!
I will pirate it.
I will never use AI goyslop.
will he hold the same standards for AAA games using ai slop?
I somehow doubt that BG3 has 140 hours of just cut scenes.
>play skrim
>talk to npc
>camera moves and i lose control for 20 seconds
>cutscene
It's counting every little minor dialogue scene and every possible permutation of dialogues
> ITT Ganker defends Daz3D models and Asset Store flips on acount of "m-muh human element"
Which posts defend that?
>ITT "headcannon"
i've never seen a single post defending asset store flips. Hell, it's used as an insult here you moron
If you think they're doing it based on any sort of quality based objection then you're a moron, they're just getting distance from the inevitably shitshow of how copyright law should apply to AI generated content.
All the AI bros have to do is prove they own all the data/assets used to generate the art.
That shouldn't be a problem right? You do own your work right AIbros?
Yeah if you make a drawing of a real place or person then you STOLE it, you cant draw things you didn't create
The worst part about all this salt over generative AI is that corporations will still use it. Cracking down over 'copyright concerns' will only stop individuals and others who lack the resources to train a model entirely on their own IP.
Well, that and the fact that modern copyright law is corporatist bullshit.
Copyright protections on intellectual property were meant to only last a maximum of 28 years (14 years, then an option to renew for another 14 years).
The reasoning for this was to encourage innovation and reward people for generating valuable new ideas. So you got your 14-28 years to capitalize guaranteed but no longer to prevent companies and individuals sitting on their ONE IDEA for literally centuries and never creating anything new or innovative.
FRICK COPYRIGHT!
FRICK OP!
FRICK GAYBEN!
ALSO FRICK DISNEY FOR CAUSING ALL THIS!
>Cracking down over 'copyright concerns' will only stop individuals and others who lack the resources to train a model entirely on their own IP.
Just make your own art and train it on that anon. Shouldn't be a problem right?
I don't think I've ever seen someone miss the point so fricking hard.
Go burn down google's headquarters if you care so much. Until then, you're just a virtue signalling tard.
>if you don't individually declare a war you can't possibly win on large, hyper corrupt global corporations, you aren't worth listening to
Frick off, apathy is death.
Fricking consoomer.
>Frick off, apathy is death.
You mean you? Whining about it online is sure gonna change things this time! Oh, I bet you're going to wait for another election to get stolen before you finally get off your ass and do anything.
I don't see you doing shit either homosexual.
I'm not the one going on unprompted rants like a virtue signalling homosexual. Nut up or shut up.
>maximum of 28 years
>and yet all models are trained on modern art that's been produced in past 5-10 years
>and yet AI models are trained on someone elses work for free and then sold to others
it's like it's not about copyright but about plundering industry that doesn't have money to defend itself (unlike music industry)
AI gays are scam artists and deserve to be shot
All artists learn by referencing other works. How is this different?
The human element as established by law for years now. If a human creates something, it's fine.
Art generators will never and should never receive the same rights and protections that humans have
> muh "human element"
You are aware that level designers already use randomize noise functions to develop terrain textures and these functions are already calculated from datasets that include copywritten material.
Art designers don't actually paint rocks and dirt patches or cracks in brickwall paterns.
What a bizarre argument. A random noise function isn't a neural network trained off of other people's work without their permission.
Because that anon literally has no idea how AI is trained and just assumes a software program cuts and pastes pieces of existing artwork.
>a software program cuts and pastes pieces of existing artwork.
Where did I say that?
If input material is irrelevant why do AI gays use good copyright protected art and not free art?
Imagine defending copyrights
>AI homosexual
>copyright bad!
>Also AI homosexual
>plasters his watermark all over his "art" to prevent "stealing"
>seethes and melts when someone shares his "private" "paywalled" model
curious how that works, huh?
Chink detected
> why do AI gays use good copyright protected art and not free art?
An AI model uses every image it can scrape, some copy written, some not.
You are talking about Billions of images here. The AI doesn't have some sort of internal quality check to decide what is good or slop. All it cares about are the locations of pixels on a 512×512 grid.
Funny it wasn't an issue when music AI was developed. They used free works and never even touched copyrighted material...
I wonder why it happened that way with music... Hmmmmm....
Because there are only so many variations of sound waves and music theory has been studied for thousands of years?
Music is not hard anon. Playing it is just a physical and memory task, and making good music usually follows a set of patterns anyway. Completely uncomparable.
Artist don't store a model of crap ripped from the internet and vaguely try to recreate a human form and end up giving a person 5 arms.
>looks at a few billion images
>instantly knows how to paint images like that
what kind of artists have you met anon
AIs aren't real people.
Is the answer.
Remember, emancipating robots is never a good idea.
People are trained on products they live with anon, training means literally nothing.
Honestly
has it right.
The entire ANTI-AI movement is being pushed by megacorps and funneled through their onions liberals/LGBTLMNOP+ idiots as their front line offense sending them to complain about "non human art".
I've legitimately never seen so many corporate suckups in my life and I've seen a lot of super shit.
People against AI are legitimately moronic. A legit witch hunt funded by rainbow profile pic mega globo corps.
dilate troony
>People are trained on products they live with anon, training means literally nothing.
what evidence is there that the way an AI learns to draw a picture and the way a human learns to draw a picture are REMOTELY comparable? You can't learn how to draw just by looking at a bunch of pictures.
A human can do the AI approach just fine. Any human can take 5 different pictures off the internet and trace over them to create a ""new"" frankenstein of a picture.
What's funny is tracing isn't protected by copyright
But AI doesn't trace over images, so no, that wouldn't be the same.
That's not what AI does at all
Amazing.
That is not how learning to draw by AI or humans works. lmao
Are you a chatbot?
Because your statement was utterly ridiculous.
This is correct.
The learning process is different and so are the results. The key difference being 'comprehension' of what is being learned.
A human learning to draw may start by copying artists they look up to, but they are able to naturally comprehend what they're drawing (for example another human) and they can then evolve and innovate their artstyle to be more original by drawing in other things they've experienced that have nothing to do with art as well as imagination.
An generative AI just creates associations between various pixel location data that is fed to it, allowing it to duplicate those associations blended with other associations from other images and semi-randomized by way of deliberately created 'gaps' in the data that get filled in by the program.
Again, the key here is comprehension. The AI doesn't know what it's generating, it's incapable of bringing inspiration from music it's listened to into an image it's creating or bringing real world experiences it's had into an art-piece symbolically.
What a waste of words, no it isn't correct and "comprehension" means jack shit as well as having no legal standing. You also don't know shit about how it works and are just spouting BS based off stuff you read.
Seriously, where the frick are all these anti-ai people coming from? They all spout the stupidest shit
I mean, I only studied generative AI at uni for my STEM degree last semester sure, what the frick would I know.
moron.
You took 1 class at school about AI, congratulations, you're a genius anon.
What about you moron-kun, what's your deep expertise?
10 years of software engineering anon. It sounds like you took a watered down version of AI for understanding sake.
Ah, so you have no idea what you are talking about, I see. I'm not even that anon btw.
You know even less about AI than the guy who took 1 semester, kek.
Anyone with a brain knows it's low effort slop. AIgays truly wonder why nobody wants bootleg knockoffs of the real thing.
And yet it would seem you learned nothing. Well done.
>last semester
You're not even a midwit, you're an actual mediocrity, have a nice day
>Seriously, where the frick are all these anti-ai people coming from?
Twitter and resetera.
Pretty much everyone outside of India, Raqeesh.
>People are trained on products they live with anon, training means literally nothing.
then why do people train AI on good art and not shit deviant art sonic porn?
do you have evidence
Megacorps are the one using AI to low their budget, stupid israelite puppet.
Everyone is going to use it anon, megacorps would use it anyway, and they'll get away with it. The important part is consumer.
Not that it matters, AI isn't going to disappear because morons don't like it. AI hate reminds me way too much of the whole Harry Potter is devil worshipping or Pokeman devil rituals. Just worthless losers looking for an opinion to have. People love to be haters, it's really easy.
>2 more weeks and everyone will be using AI, sirs
You’re wrong anon. The whole point you’re basing this on is only taking into consideration mega corps protecting their IP.
Copyright law also protects small and medium sized artists/companies from these same megacorps you claim to be against. For example: I write a book, it becomes a cult classic, and I never sell the rights to it because I want my descendants to be able to reap the benefits of my work. Why should Disney or Amazon be allowed to remake, adapt, or do absolutely anything for profit with my idea because an arbitrary amount of time decided by the government has passed? It’s total bullshit.
Because no one should be allowed to sit on their one good idea for all of eternity.
Can you not fricking read?
I don't care if you want to allow your descendants to make infinite money by doing absolutely nothing of value.
They can come up with their own ideas, further, if you want to pass something down to them then invest the money you make from the book's sales.
Frick off with this shit that encourages the idea that people should be just 'born into success'. Your kids can work like everyone else.
By your logic we should nationalize all companies after the founder leaves and/or dies. Based commie moron.
Big companies settle cases like this all the time. You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. And a lot of times, they’re not even in the wrong tbh. Some of the people claiming infringement are straight up grifting. Corpsjust don’t want to deal with the headache of a going back and forth of going to court or getting bad PR.
>my lifespan is an arbitrary amount of time
Yes, I can die tomorrow or I can die 70 years from now
>Copyright law also protects small and medium sized artists/companies from these same megacorps you claim to be against.
Tell me one time this has happened in recent history. When since the turn of the millennium has a single major corporation ever lost a trademark dispute with a small creator?
if gabe is banning AI slop than means Sweeney will probably emrbace it like with the nft blockchain bullshit games.
Who cares, only the Chinese and Chinese shills use that shit show of a "store" anyways.
>only Chinese and Chinese shills use that shit show of a “store”
>only the country that’s winning the global culture war uses that store anyway
lol
Not downloading your spyware chang.
If you want AI to be immediately banned just start making AI generated music with samples from popular bands.
israelite fricking HATE it when you touch the music industry and will ban it worldwide forever.
Yeah that's why ai Black folk went after art first because they'd get sued into the dirt if they touched music.
Good AI 'art' is garbage, it is funny though to see liberal hipsters scared about it replacing them but still I don't wont to see steam flooded with dogshit 'games' using Ai art everywhere. It was bad enough when every game started using unity, the degeneration of video games must be stopped and Gaben will help hold the gate.
>Games with assets stolen from other games is fine though
Its insane valve are looking this closely at games when there are so many with ripped assets from other games. There is no way for other companies to tell your AI asset used a model that was trained on copyright content. But you can easily tell when a game has a model stolen from another game
>when there are so many with ripped assets from other games
and when the fans point it out they are forced to fix it
Drift Streets Japan and loads of other racing games have stolen assets and are still for sale on Steam and have been for years
They all fly under the radar as they aren't super popular
GABEN DO NOT REDEEM
Are there any lawsuits about ai images yet?
is there an
to lurk AI stuff??
i've want to mess with the ai video but the only free one i found was asss
SDG on Ganker
is there a place not infested by trannies?
is there a place not infested by trannies?
Just download a local install. It's free. Hopefully you have more than 8GB VRAM, otherwise it shits the bed.
>Local install
Automatic1111: https://github.com/automatic1111/stable-diffusion-webui
AMD GPU: https://rentry.org/sdg-link#amd-gpu
CPU: http://rentry.org/cputard
>Wiki
https://www.sdcompendium.com
>Models, textual inversion & embeddings
https://civitai.com
https://huggingface.co
https://rentry.org/hdgrecipes
https://rentry.org/sdg-motherload
https://rentry.org/embeddings
https://rentry.org/ezlora
Go back to Ganker, curry Black person.
As long as blood still flows red in this body of mine, I will never stop distributing free software for the purpose of infringing on copyright.
>based Gaben keeping PC gaming pure
There are worthless asset flips released every single day on Steam.
Plus you can still buy tons of gambling-induced games on there too.
What they want to control is that the AI they used is not fed copyrighted material, which is a very legitimate concern.
i dont care about generative AI. will iget my AI wife soon? Or atleast put her in a game. frick your art.
Depends what you mean by 'AI'.
If it just has to be convincing enough of a mimicry of human behaviour that's technically already possible but no one wants to do if because they'll get called a creep or perv or weirdo for it by Twitter (same reason sex/wife-bots will never be real).
If you mean a program capable of genuine comprehension and thought. Well then that's a pretty long way off.
soon™
>his waifu is not a work of art
cringe
needs more space for furry porn visual novels
Good
Good. Now if they'll just make every dev show their code and prove their code was not created with AI assistance so only real programmers are allowed to submit games.
Frick AI
No, we only care about protecting artists on twitter from having their livlihood stolen.
Programmers can suck shit.
No, we want to minimize shovelware slop on steam, that means keeping incompetent programmers away.
no thanks. Learn to ink
meanwhile in japan
Steam or any other game store is not relevant. If YOU want to make a game with AI go ahead. If you develop some mindblowing shit out of it, take video of it and put it on youtube or twitter. GabeN will not stop innovation just because of his store.
Is this another fake or bait article? Some Black person has been seething about AI for weeks posting mostly fake shit daily.
AI is here to stay you failed artgays and writer.
pretty obvious that someone is seething hard that AI image generators exist. AI is a great thread topic though since you're guaranteed to get fuming mad people letting you know how much they hate AI
Why does she have 3 ears? I thought AI was supposed to be really good?
AIgays don't look at their slop for more than 10 seconds before rushing to post it, let alone "fixing" it like they always say they can but never do.
five seconds in gimp, now why don't you post your soulful hand-drawn OC?
Why are you getting so upset Rajeesh? It's not like you actually made it in the first place.
You really think that looks good?
Not that anon, but it is a drawing of a female elf.
Does it not look like a well-drawn picture of a female elf to you. What do you think is wrong with i it compared to other pictures of female elves?
Holy shit, it's an actual soulless NPC. Sorry but you wouldn't understand, only real people can see the difference between good art and bad art.
i accept your concession on that anons behalf
Coomers have always had poor art quality recognition. Whats the point of getting butthurt over sexy elf AI gens? Thats already an oversaturated genre.
there, hand looks molten to her thigh and whatever is going on in the groin area
look at those GAMS
wew
ai might not do hands right, but it gets the important parts right
Still souless. Once you see a few AI art pieces, you realize they all look the same and have the same style.
I don't mind it appearing once or twice but I'd rather have real artists since it's distinct.
they only look the same because you havent trained a custom style, manually, done by You
For me it's FFT elves
>deformed eyes and nose
>deformed hands melting into the knee
>clothing melting into the skin
How long have you continually spammed these types of deformed computer generated elves?
Look at that pure Soul made by AI.
ai seethers always pop thier heads up whenever it's mentioned, so you'll see the same shitzo's. but THIS recent event is news. but there's really nothing to it, just a literal who dev showing an email of valve saying prove this art isn't stolen
Isn't this whole shit just made up by one guy who had his game rejected
Did it actually get proven or are they still speculating over a one time thing
it's so funny how desperate people are to believe this utterly fake news
Great now artists don't have to get a real job.
The shovelware I slopped onto the store are still there and they’re just unity AI Asset flips.
Works for me
>implying valve has the resources to look at every asset in every game on steam to make sure it doesn't use AI generated content
>implying they give a shit
F95zone already does this, it even has an AI tag since people can snuff it out quickly.
This is incredibly annoying. AI generation is perfect if you're trying to do a PS1-style game with "pre-rendered" backgrounds.
I say don't worry, its more applies to Visual Novel shit consisting of entirely AI art than a background in some game with other original assets.
actually based
I see AI being a assistance tool in many cases. Imagine being an absolutely shitty artist, but you can doodle your stick figures and let the AI color it in with better art. Same thing for other mediums, models, etc. Using AI as an extremely advanced tool. We already have photoshop, it's a tool, it doesn't require a brush or a pen. AI will be like that, offering supplementary support as well as pure generation. And that's a good thing.
>AIgays
>Being able to do anything besides clicking a button.
O I am laffin
It's a time situation too. I can make 3D environments, but each one of these shots would take days, if not a week. This took about 2 hours. That's the difference between making this game and not making it, full-stop. Anti-AI people are basically just saying that if you're poor or unpopular and can't raise money or devote your entire life to development, you shouldn't be allowed to create.
Why do AIgays want to rush everything and make it fast? Devoting time and passion into something equals soul. I can only attribute this mindset to someone who only eats fast food and never does anything with their life.
They don't have a soul. They want infinite amounts of automatically generated slop.
> there is not already an infinate amount of human produced slop
Infinity + infinity is still infinity
If I were to try to make this game via traditional methods, I would die first. It's too much work for one person without utilizing tools and strategies to streamline the process. That's the harsh truth.
>AIgays see themselves as more useless than Phil Fish.
TOP KEK
Probably.
I'm an idiot. There's a bunch of stuff I have to learn and then make and not enough time to do it. Not everyone can be a genius, but I have a story that I'd like to tell and I see the means to get it done before me. So I'ma use them.
>I have a story that I'd like to tell and I see the means to get it done before me
Quit bullshitting. If that were true you would've done it already.
I'm currently in the process, as you can see.
Money?
>umm i dont feel like it lol
>btw i deserve money for it too
no
lol there's tons of solo devs that release games, you're just lazy
>If I were to try to make this game via traditional methods, I would die first
skill issue
Yes, that too. Programming and design are hard.
understandable
Improving efficiency has been a driving goal of the art industry for centuries before computers even existed. Art tech and tools have developed over thousands of years for the sole purpose of making the artistic process faster and easier. Unless you’re exclusively drawing cave paintings, you’re a hypocritical moron. AI doing the little dirty work details for artists is no different than artists using digital software to help speed up their drawing.
The buildings look like deformed and incomprehensible messes.
Perfect for my story's themes. You're journeying through the deformed and incomprehensible mess that America has become.
That headline is misleading, you can use AI if you own the rights to the images used to train it.
all that matters is stopping steam from being flooded by AI shovelware, pajeets can't make their own images to train ai off of so it's fine.
If AIgays had their own images, they wouldn't need to use AIslop to begin with. They're absolutely useless without it.
How transformative does it have to be to not be copyright infringement?
Have you heard of sampling?
So is your argument now that AI "samples" source material? I thought it was that AI "learned" like a human.
Yes. That's generally how it would work. The music industry has sampling be legally protected and not considered as infringement despite artists literally lifting beats from recordings for their own TO SELL. The only argument people have against it is that it needs to be a human being going through the process of photobashing it themselves which is already a dubious defense.
The machine transforms via algorithm but the controller is still human. It is not self-autonomous.
>The machine transforms via algorithm but the controller is still human. It is not self-autonomous.
The end result was produced by a machine. AI this advanced is new, but in general is not. It has already been ruled that simply providing an input is not meaningful enough of an action to change that it was made by a computer. If the same set of instructions can be given by anyone untrained and create more or less the same output, it's not transformative.
>All art is made with machines anon,
Reductionism just makes you look like a homosexual. You are typing this message on a computer, not with a computer. The computer did not assist you to write to nearly the same level as an AI. I didn't even read the rest of your post.
>end result was produced by a machine
So? I'd argue that no other AI image can actually be perfectly replicated by another AI due to how many iterations it goes through in creating an image. It's transformative in its own right. I'd relate this somewhat to how computers worked back then, which were dedicated people whose sole job was to calculate and crunch numbers. Nowadays, a simple device does that for you, renamed calculator.
>So?
Are you serious? The law says that it matters, anon. The human element matters in copyright law, it doesn't matter what you're arguing. The courts already said you're wrong, and we're discussing legalities. And even in your example was wrong. Algorithms can't be copyrighted, only the implementation of those algorithms can be. Meaning the AI itself can be copyrighted, but its components and its products cannot be.
>Meaning the AI itself can be copyrighted, but its components and its products cannot be.
That much is true unless it's made to be open source. The problem you propose is concentrated on the legalities of the software rather than the art produced itself. Steam is making a hasty decision in culling AI art when it is still nascent in the industry,
>The problem you propose is concentrated on the legalities of the software rather than the art produced itself.
Those two things are inherently and intrinsically linked and it only makes sense to play it safe before any landmark decisions are made.
>How transformative does it have to be to not be copyright infringement?
The law says that it has to adds "new expression, meaning, or message" to the original work. The law has also said that a machine cannot add these things as intent is required for them, which machines lack.
All art is made with machines anon, no one out there is drawing on canvas and scanning that shit, they're working in digital programs which do massively heavy lifting for them.
In a few years you won't even be able to tell if art is AI and there's nothing anyone can do about it. We already went from everyone laughing over multi legs and no fingers to art that can do it completely. Personally I think Chat AI is going to be huge for customer support. Imagine every customer support person you can is a deep professional. Plus, they can have real people to review certain cases if the AI can't handle it.
>2 more weeks cope.
>In a few years you won't even be able to tell if art is AI
Top kek. Didn't you gays last year say this was going to happen in just a few months?
>In a few years you won't even be able to tell if art is AI and there's nothing anyone can do about it.
seems like the brakes have been put on, dont ya think? And with even more legislation in the EU and now from Gaben...I dont think your conclusion is the only one
>In a few years you won't even be able to tell if art is AI and there's nothing anyone can do about it
I love how you AItards have kept moving the timeframe further back since you started pushing this shit last year.
> software that has only been freely available to the general public for about a year or so
> "Haha, hurry up guis u said it would be perfected by now! 2 more weeks huh?"
>Haha, hurry up guis u said it would be perfected by now!
You literally did.
link one single post from 2022 saying AI art will be perfect by 2023. it should be easy to find one. I’ll wait
>u said it would be perfected by now! 2 more weeks huh?
Yes, that's what happened. AI shills kept saying this shit was going to be perfect every in just a few weeks or just a few months,
Let it cook.
>make up ai community boogieman entity
>"twoooooo weeeeeeek"
>ANON ANON LOOK AT THIS STRAWMAN I MADE
AI already made progress smooth brain, and it still is.
i remember you Black folk were in absolute disbelief when it came to gpt, dalle, and character ai.
IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS, AI will pretty will own the entertainment industry completely
i dont care, whatever prevents third worlders from flooding steam with scam games
Stop drinking the bait that only third worlders are using SD. I literally use it for my tabletop sessions.
Where did I say that? Did you quote the wrong post?
so you take the fight against asset flips, zero effort porn games, shit you'd find on newgrounds back in the day, stolen assets etc that's already on steam or do you just seethe about AI?
>so you take the fight against
broken english detected, thirdie ignored
I accept your concession. Keep crying about AI though, I'm sure it will help get that furry porn patreon off the ground!
The opinion of non-humans (third worlders) doesn't count, I may as well ask my cat what he thinks of AI.
What does your cat think about AI?
>Sirs, why don't they like my AIslop? They must be bloody AI haterz!
cope.
oof must have hit a sore spot
Post hand.
Don't worry AItards, you can always sell them on Ebin store just like NFTcucks
You can still use AI, just checked. The only rule is that you have to create the art that the AI learns from. Which is easy to do if you're already pretty good at art.
>The only rule is that you have to create the art that the AI learns from.
Everything you create was influenced by things you observed (stole)
>guy that has stolen everything popular he has "made" complaining about AI
ironic.
>based Gaben keeping PC gaming pure
You mean the same guy that popularized microtransactions with Team Fortress 2?
anti AI luddites are already front runners for KWAB of the decade. i think only shazam gays are competing with them. AI has destroyed you in the span of a year and a half
Sounds like you're trying to convince yourself more than anything.
Shazam? The music recognizing app?
There is a massive market in grifters using AI generated books. They troll through the highest sellers and find iterations to copy, mass produce, and sell on the market. The big issue is that grifters sell the process to other wannabe grifters, so it's an issue that's exponentially growing. Instead of stopping it, Amazon allows it to happen because they make money every time some grandma buys her grandson an AI book because she doesn't know the difference. Steams are already so polluted with shitty porn and low quality games that trying to stop the flood of AI games is a stand in the right direction towards keeping the integrity of their catalog.
>unfinished AAA goyslop and 3rd world asset recycling is okay doe
>inspiration (ethical and moral theft) is now considered ilegal by valve's standards
Ok, now apply those same rules to indieBlack folk and their moronic pixel/PS1-inspired garbage and we'll call it even.
>NFTs... le bad!
>AI... le bad!
Stop listening to Twitch streamers lmao, why are we slowing down technological progress
NFTS are stupid and AI is ruining the great fanart stuff I like.
Good morning, sirs.
i remember when third worlders tried to make money off whites selling fruit on the street, now its anime girls
As opposed to regular Hentai which just uses stock packages from Manga Studio?
Are these games or DLC?
Will whoever takes over after Gabe even have a quarter of his common sense?
it will be a brown woman taking his place and you can bet your ass steam is fricked after gabe leaves
it's refreshing to see an AI thread that isn't full of pajeets fellating it to the maximum. if you thought early access/greenlight games were slop, AI would enable games 10 times worse. also, AI is not going to allow (You), smelly NEET that doesn't know the first thing about coding, to make your waifu real and allow you to make 10/10 video game kino in your sleep
AI will be 10 times better though. Early access games are garbage because they lack resources. AI is going to basically be an infinite resource to use to create.
>AItard actually believes he can make anything by himself when he has to add Yoshida to his proompt.
You are a parasite.
He's so proud of it that he spams it in every thread. Seriously, look at the archives. Every single AI thread has this gay spamming his AI garbage to show off what he considers his masterpiece.
I don't blame him tho, AIgays get no attention on their slop anywhere else. Especially when it's getting banned on almost every site.
I like Yoshida though why wouldn't I prompt that? We were talking about video games though, once VidyaGPT comes out, it will help you make stuff. Just like ChatGPT can help you write poems or papers or how the image diffusers help you make art.
You're not making anything, you're finding it. It's the equivalent of typing in something in Google and proclaiming you made it.
Keyword is transformative. See: the music industry's take on sampling.
The music industry asks permission from the copyright holders and producers to use samples, jackass. What's with AIgays getting basic legal info wrong?
Not ALL mind you. I'd wager most sampling in music do not even have the express permission from the composers and publishers, especially those that are in niche and underground circles.
No, sampling litigation is mostly limited to old white rockers and writers slipping their hands into the pockets of black artists who found a hit. The Blurred Lines thing was such a big deal because it was basically the OJ trial of the lawsuit type. They made sure it didn't happen again.
ai can write fresh new code and make new art wdym?
>autistic semantics argument
There are more images contained in any given model than in the physical realm spanning the thousands of years of human history. Finding it or creating it is not relevant. We're creating and presenting new art using AI as the medium.
Google doesn't create art or anything new(unless you use the new AI anyway).
Everyone already knows that AI can only copy/paste pre-existing work, this isn't new information.
No one knows that, only idiots parrot that nonsense.
It's not exactly copy+paste because it samples a collection of images then forms A NEW (SEE: NEW) image based on that. It'd be like copying a text, then the paste output would be an anagram of it.
Even that's not really correct. It's basically DLSS but instead of creating pixels to fill in and smooth out an upscaled frame, it "denoises" towards what the model says a given word should make a given pixel look like.
> t's the equivalent of typing in something in Google and proclaiming you made it
This hamburger did not exist on Google. Nor did it exist before I generated it.
You can't generate this hamburger, because you do not have the LoRA that I trained myself on your computer
Can you blame them? AIjeets and neets actually believe that a glorified Google search program that copy pastes other peoples work is somehow "magic", lmao!
Japan already ruled that AI art is okay to be sold and distributed granted that it is transformative enough from the original works it was trained in.
Can someone give examples of ai generated games? I don't mean they have some assets that used ai I mean full on games that were generated using ai.
hentai games puzzly using AI art
see
https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ01041697.html
DLsite did scrub alot of AI generated stuff but there are some exceptions
https://cs-circle.dlsite.com/hc/en-us/articles/14941627991321-Regarding-the-sale-of-AI-generated-works
>Chinese shit you have to actively scour the dark corners of the internet to find.
okay cool so it's not actually a problem
It isn't, the culling and the alarmist rhetoric is overkill. One way how DLsite actually prevents flooding is that there is a time limit on your next AI-generated project and it's about 1 month.
>fake reddit post
>Ganker believes it
morons
>tmw you realize that from now on devs will use ai as an excuse for bad design
>tmw shitters on Ganker, twitter and reddit will use the word "ai generated" to mean anything bad including re-used assets, stupidity and downright laziness
>242 / 31 / 74
HOLY MEDS
take them
Frick off weirdo, keep complaining about pixels on your screen
huh? exactly what you're doin'
>based Gaben keeping PC gaming pure
>Allows indieshit slop to infest the entire platform
/v/, we should be celebrating this. Art is finally at your fingertips.
beep boop
What?
bop
We are.
yeah I want an actual MMORPG, one with generated content and actual RPG elements.
A good AI would be like a dungeon master
Can you imagine if towns and cities and quest hubs had a bit of life to them, quests being generated on the fly. You could find an NPC, talk to them about their day, build a relationship with them, and maybe get a discount. A lot of those interactions only have so many moving parts/levers to make them work, and AI could fill in the content part using the general frameworks to guide it.
Or imagine you're playing a game where disconnecting isn't recoverable. LoL/DOTA2/some shooters. You could have AI jump in as a bot with a skill level similar to the team they are on and continue to fight.
In fact, having AI support scaffolding to work with. There was a story writer which had a ton of tools for writing fantasy and could help you brainstorm.
Look at this qt, you're telling me I can't use her for any work?
yes you can.
just say you drew it.
Good luck saying you drew it. Anyone with a brain could tell that is AIslop from the thumbnail alone.
prove it.
Anybody ITT that uses a calculator for math in educational or professional work are hypocrites.
>used a calculator
you didnt beat the math
If you wear clothing to retain warmth, then you didn't progress in any way. You didn't do anything but put on clothsloping. Real progress can only be done through personal evolution.
>clothslopping
>he uses both fork and knife when eating his meals
You didn't beat your dinner.
>comparing trying to get work done efficiently to people shitting out assets to try to milk as much money as possible with as little "work" as possible
You cannot copyright an ART STYLE. How many times do I have to post this.
>the source is literally a reddit post
>journos and Gankereddit are still eating the bait
>Fails at VR
>Fails at handheld consoles
>Fails at understanding AI
Gabe keeps taking L's lmao
>Bloody bastards, they do not understand the AI like us Indians.
bastards, they do not understand the AI like us Indians.
at least do the needful and talk like an street shitter next time sirs.
>Israel lowest
Wait, so Israel is based now?
>white ethnostate carrying out violent ethnic cleansing of browns
always were
>is real the lowest
kek, they would hate pattern recognizing software
they're the lowest of the 8 highest.
8th place.
It'll never stop amazing me out how the videogames board is filled with so many luddite subhumans. The entire medium owes everything to advancements in tech.
This would be like if you opposed the jump to 3D all the way back in the 90s. Absolutely moronic.
>This would be like if you opposed the jump to 3D all the way back in the 90s. Absolutely moronic.
Super Mario 64 and Quake ruined their respective genres and I'm tired of zoomies pretending otherwise
>This would be like if you opposed the jump to 3D all the way back in the 90s.
Some people were lol. I remember people like this in the early 2000s.
AIslop is more along the lines of Unity store asset flip games.
Unity store is not a technological advancement.
Neither is AIslop.
>a technological advancement is not a technological advancement
>Copy pasting is a technological advancement.
moronic zoomer.
The technology behind "copy pasting" is still a technological advancement, dumbshit.
Post more piggies!
some of these old farts are stuck in the 90s cos thats when they really started gaming.
Its amazing to me how many morons there are on Ganker that believe single posts on reddit.
Not just Ganker, a lot of the mainstream media is covering this. It's so funny. Gaben is getting this weird kind of positive coverage while he's still selling games with AI. He's probably laughing.
draw friends have to cope somehow
This has been a thing in Photoshop since forever, AIgays are truly easily amused subhumans.
where get?
We have to follow Japan's ruling in this. AI art should be allowed BUT with restrictions to prevent market flooding and blatant non-transformative works that are not original enough.
That wasn't Japan's ruling. They entirely stated that AI is just photoshop. Outputs will be judged in the same way.
True, the output will always be judged accordingly via "substantial similarity" like all iterative works are.
In my opinion, what anon posted here
would fail the substantial similarity test.
This stuff is more transformative than the fanart pre-AI though, and you don't see SE suing people like Shinichi Kobe. They're elves for starters and secondly they're rendered very differently.
Do a side by side comparison first and foremost and show it to some anons, if they confuse your art being done by the original then you have a problem in your hands.
Feel free. I don't want to waste my time doing that.
You already waste your time making bootleg knockoffs from Yoshida. You got all the time in the world you useless homosexual lmao.
I'm not wasting my time doing that, it's fun 🙂
You gotta expand your prompts. It legit looks too much like Yoshida's work. I'm approaching this with you in good faith that you are looking to sell this work in some form.
Not looking to sell but you could sell it just like people used to sell Yoshida fanart, particularly profile pictures. You guys act like every fan artist instantly gets sued for copying a style, it's a weird and delusional grasping argument.
Fan artists actually do something called drawing instead of copy pasting, Pajeet. You can quit pretending on being something you'll never be.
>luddite argument
It's not going away man. Either tie the noose or grow up. It's not healthy seething every day.
I just prompt something else usually.
My eyes glaze over as they are all the same.
Pretty much like the real stuff. That's why it's a beloved art style, that nice consistency.
And this is fan art.
Except the originals don't make my eyes glaze over. They're still different.
Fanart itself is transformative, anon
This
would actually be a good level of transformative to stand as an "original" work.
Fan artists do get sued when they try to create a commercial product. That's why they try to use legal loopholes through things like general commissions and limited production work that isn't released to the market.
It's the only reason derivative works like doujinshi products in Japan are allowed to be sold, because they're done in limited quantities for events and aren't mass produced sales. It's also why fan work can be pirated and nobody can issue claims.
Also AI art literally uses the data from the original work and sampling lost in court.
We need to adopt the Japanese method.
We already have it. Single event issues for conventions are already a thing. Just like Japan you can only do it in physical format. Digital distribution counts as a mass produced and distributed product.
Huh, I didn't know that. What exactly is the western equivalent of a doujin circle?
Fanzines in the 70s through 90s did it. The internet killed it off for the most part, but it still exists. That's why fan artists can do limited print sales.
Why would you have a problem? You can't copyright styles, and large companies like Disney have been known to just get their artists to copy other artists' style to get similar results.
>you can't copyright styles
True BUT your work can and will be confused as a Yoshida work so it's a no-go. That's the ruling a lawyer will hit you with. Simple solution is to transform it further.
>Disney
Disney, especially in the 2D era, literally brings in the artist to create a style for the film they want to do. Hence nearly each film looks different like Lilo and Stitch from Chris Sanders to Glen Keane being ultimately Disney' home style.
>True BUT your work can and will be confused as a Yoshida work
Copyright only applies to a specific work. They have to grab a specific image and say you infringed on that specific work. "Confusion" can apply to trademark but that's a different beast.
All I'm asking is to at least add another prompt and do some editing yourself. It'll come out better rather than being ultra-derivative. Come on, anon.
AI is going to help me make a homosex Black Lives Matter Mass Effect ripoff so I can get rich off ESG bux and there is NOTHING Gaben can do to stop me!
dont need ai for that hombre.
its already headed that way.
just wait.
> Press F to THUG SHAKE
>AI shills actually think there's an objective in art and their dogshit is objectively good
Holy shit
Good morning, sirs.
Is there really anything wrong with AI creating things like background scenery?
No? DLsite for that reason alone has that "Partial AI" tag. I think you just have to be transparent that you used AI art in your work.
If you're fine with your backgrounds looking like a garbage pile mixed with melted wax.
>slop
Go leave please.
Good morning, sirs.
>its another Ganker believes reddir thread
>almost nonstop threads on this since the news broke
>"IT'S JUST REDDIT LOL DON'T BELIEVE THE LIES IMAGINE BEING GULLIBLE"
I have not seen a single person legitimately getting upset over this that isn't mad they can't try and game the system by selling barebones VN trash in massive quantities
>almost nonstop threads on this since the news broke
you mean mentally ill, mindbroken trannies autistically lost the same thread over and over?
I have NEVER seen such behavior and am totally shocked at this revelation!
You're right, AIgays pretend to be artists just like how trannies pretend to be women.
cool story.
how is that related to furgays trying to force a fake reddit post into reality?
It's not fake, you're just coping that your AIslop is even more useless than it was previously. Maybe you can try selling it on T-shirts for pennies.
lmao
>this single reddit post with no receipts and no reproduction anywhere is TOTALLY legitimate!
>Valve hasn't said anything because... they just won't ok!?
>ITS REAL JUST LIKE MY INVERTED PENIS vegana
>Still coping
>Oh no my fellow curry Black folk! I'll have to actually learn to draw? AAAIIEEEEE!
>AIgays pretend to be artists
This doesn't happen, schizo.
It happens all the time moron, you have literal frauds watermarking their AIslop that they didn't even make.
show ai prompters claiming to be artists
would be funny, but ive never seen it
Takes literal seconds if you go on Pinterest, Artstation, or Deviantart. You have thousands of accounts filled with AIslop.
thats not them claiming to be artists though. thats them posting art.
While that 'person' is irredeemably moronic, there is no claim of being an artist except maybe the comparison of all artists to hitler.
post another though, its funny. and sad.
>AI is a great artist.
>AI
literally right there.
>it got so bad that the Japanese literally threatened pixiv and forced pixiv to separate AI, and if you submit AI work that isn't properly labeled your AI work you're banned
>also pixiv owns all AI submissions
>and they don't allow it in any of their contests
>ai "artist"
>a pajeet
name a more iconic duo
saying ai art is art is not claiming tobe an artist.
>Suhail
Top Kek, everytime it's either a troony or a pajeet.
>suhail
Of course.
>1.5 hours and it still looks like utter trash
1.5 hours just to come up with a proompt. AIjeets are unimaginably moronic.
it's unironically not a bad thing if you actually want ai to thrive and grow. the only reason normalgays hate ai is because it's just being spammed non-stop on various art portals. the publicity isn't a good thing.
literally nobody except for-profit artists actually care about the "ethical" issues
Understandable, it could be a copyright nightmare in the future. Could also increase the standard of AI gens, some of them are hard to tell so just stay quiet.
>implying Valve has any form of standards
Greenlight and Steam Direct say otherwise.
I just want AI so I can make movies of Disney IPs while making the characters extremely racists criminals who love rape. I just want to poison all of Disney's IPs with AI
One thing AI has shown us is how little people understand intellectual property rights laws. Both the public and the politicians.
Good. Drawing is the hardest skill a human can learn after all, it must be protected.
> You wouldn't prompt a Ganker would you?
I wonder if they get to talk about video games on Ate-CAAMM?
@642680786
cant even greentext sarcastically while also making a point.
the left cant meme.
no (You) for you till you post better.
Here are some considerations if you are looking to create games/novels/films/etc. with AI:
Is the work transformative enough? (Color palette, composition, scale, aesthetic, etc.)
Is the work trying to expropriate the market of the originals? (usually only a problem for big corporations)
Is the work labeled as AI generated or uses AI generated media? (for the sake of transparency)
If you pass these tests, then in my book you're good to go.
>t. trust me, I'm a lawyer and an expert in copyright law with regard to ai art
lmao.
ok internet.
Most of the arguments to be made with this can be directly appropriated from the music industry's sampling cases.
so with modders adding chatgpt ai and shit into games, and other AAA devs talking about adding nu-ai into their slop as well.
will it conflate the old 'knowledge' of what ai stood for in games?
ie. when capcom says DD2's pawns will have good ai, will dumb frick journo's think they mean chatgpt and get pissy when they don't act accordingly
Who cares what journalists think, just write articles with AI lol
>all these butthurt troons and gays upset that they're about to made irrelevant by AI
>Think Valve is doing it for integrity reasons rather than scared shitless about copyright lawsuits
I'm enjoying every minute of it. After all, "learn to code" like you trannies said to the coal miners years ago.
Are the trannies in the room with us right now?
Yes, and it's you. You'll never be a woman.
It sounds like you have schizophrenia. Takes your meds.
Don't you have HRT to take gay?
Why do you want me to be a troony?
Valve isnt doing anything.
Its troons baking up another batch of delusion because they don't like reality.
Show me the anti-AI policy in Valve's dev agreement lol.
Wrong, i just got off a phone call with Gaben and he told me AIgays should kill themselves.
By the way everyone, I just want to say before this thread caps that I had a lot of fun shitposting with you guys tonight. This was a great thread. Good work everyone.
yeah, these threads are pure (You) farms.
though at what point does shitppsting shitposts become fruitless?
>Steam puts up barrier to stop AIslop
>rajesh, bin chin ling and paco aren't able to flood the market with garbage
>meanwhile others try to step it up and force the AI to improve so it can get past the "wall"
I only see this as a win, no garbage spam and once the AI makes over that barrier, the crybaby artsy games are over
>rajesh, bin chin ling and paco aren't able to flood the market with garbage
>What are asset flips
But they have been doing so for 10 years with GL and then SD.
Even asset flip games take way more of an effort than just clicking a button to generate. AIgays have no actual mind of their own.
>dragging and clicking a free unreal assetflip folder is hard I swear!
Cope
You sure are.
>push button
>make game
we're not there yet dummy.
asset flips and ai slop take equivalent effort atm.
one opens wallet.
other clicks buttan.
>one clicks buttan.
>other clicks buttan.
I guess it' this actually. Free assets etc.
Everyone talks about how idea guys can just do whatever they want now unrestrained by programming or artistic skill but there still hasn't been a single piece of media of value to come out of AI
Because it's still in its infancy, but also improving at a rapid pace.
That was a fast cope, even Altman says its already starting to plateau because the amount of data is drying up. Its running against the wall
>unrestrained by programming
wat?
also ideas guys arent tech savvy enough to get usable art going.
stop with this malarkey.
>AIgays think they're tech saavy for using Google Images
O i am laffin
>talking about ideaguys
>brings up aigays
they really do live rent free, don't they? do you lose sleep over this?
Idea guys and AIgays are the same thing, moron.
lmao
moron
artgays are truly the dumbest, most replaceable c**ts ever
learn to code sweaty
Not true considering AIgays need artists to piggyback off in the first place, now continue to cope.
keep seething whilw being replaced by diffusion models.
When's that gonna happen, in 2 more weeks?
ask the trannies kvetching about ai art "taking jobs away"
I lmao.
>makes no point
you'rw just clicking things now.
time to go outside and get some fresh air.
no doubt there will be another thread up when you get back.
You type like an ESL, no wonder you love the AIsloppa.
Out.
> AIgays need artists to piggyback off in the first place
There's already a massive repository of images online that grows and grows each day.
As long as you post something online, you are only feeding the monster you despise.
It's already starting to create a feedback loop with the fricked up hands
Its new name will be IA for Inbred Art. The 7 fingers on each hand also don't help.
You must wait for 2 more weeks.
>there still hasn't been a single piece of media of value to come out of AI
Genshin Impact and Star Rail are HEAVILY developed via AI
source: My ass
lmao
https://en.as.com/meristation/news/genshin-impact-developers-talk-about-how-they-used-ai-in-their-hit-game-honkai-star-rail-n/
>They used "AI" aka enemy patterns and random face expressions to make the game
The 90's did the same. AI is a buzzword, and its literally not the same copyright-stealing tech shit Valve is banning
AIgays are reaching for the cope
>Valve is banning
they arent banning anything because of ai art
If they weren't, this thread wouldn't exist for 4 days straight.
Pure denial at this point
>mentally ill troony, seething about being replaced, makes same thread for days on end
nice evidence bro
keep being replaced though
>starts calling people troony and sperging about being "replaced" (no one will be)
AIgay going from denial to anger
Oh I'm laffing
>still no evidence beyond "look at all the threads tho!!!"
dilate troony. valve isn't banning anythung because of ai art.
>Valve grabbed all the AIgays and went SO LONG GAY BOWSER
Did you even read the article?
> “In fact, we have already integrated some latest AI technologies into Honkai: Star Rail. These techniques have been implemented to improve the facial appearance and behavioral patterns of characters, enhancing the immersive gaming experience with a more natural representation overall.”
Do you somehow this does not also extend to character design?
Prove it.
Fromsoft uses procedural generation and AI assistance for their architectural designs