After doing a full playthrough of this recently, yeah vampires fricking lame. Wolf I just turned wolf and massacred the entire continent in 1 transformation and maxed out my whole tree.
Nothing stands a chance and you just rip through everyone.
you have to transform into a werewolf to get any of the benefits of being one.
while you are in that form, you cant interact with anything,
its a shame, because they are much cooler than gaypires
At least you can open doors pull levers
Usually, but not always, you can rampage to the end of the cave/area and then walk through the aftermath and loot/open chests
I do wish we had more control shifting in and out. The ring helps but it’s not perfect
Not you're a coward ass b***h like me.
Blend into a town for a decade, move to a new one for the next decade. Avoid war, only feed on cute bandit women(you're a gay if you've ever sucked on a dude), and keep out of local politics.
People need to remember that vampires aren’t bad because they’re oppressed by humans and the sun, they’re evil by nature because they gave up their soul and humanity for immortal life and power. It's hard to imagine a loss of empathy or humanity in ourselves because suddenly getting turned evil is hard to picture while still retaining parts of your personality. It's why being a vampire seems appealing on paper because the concept of a soul usually only seems relevant in the afterlife. In reality, by reality I mean in this fiction and those like it, if you were made a vampire you wouldn't be able to want to be good nor would you attempt all those noble things you thought you would after becoming immortal: you wouldn't dedicate your time to researching amazing things and only eating the bad. No, you would be petty, narcissistic, disloyal, shortsighted and savage. You would not be able to grasp the issue with stabbing an old woman in the back as long you're no caught and you would meditate on those you have wrong assuming they are dead. You would be evil and soulless and your thoughts would be barely human, despite poessing intellect and human memories. You could not make friends, love beauty, respect others or even feel content with peace. You would live in a cave be an butthole because anything else you would ruin by your disgust and irreverence
>People need to remember that vampires aren’t bad because they’re oppressed by humans and the sun, they’re evil by nature because they gave up their soul and humanity for immortal life and power.
This falls apart when you make vampirism contractable.
that's a hell lot of a projection
just feed on certain undesirables instead of randomly killing innocents
one could literately alter and change and control the entire world empire on a whim were one a vampire
You're not getting it. A vampire wouldn't CARE about morals like eating only le bads. Losing your soul and becoming a monster isn't just a societal idea, you literally BECOME evil
This, the need to dominate runs so strong in vampires due to being created by Molag Bal they just backstab each other like morons because they all want to be on top. They are inclined to seek positions of power even at the risk of exposing themselves to unnecessary danger.
It may reduce your empathy slightly, but Serana is clearly not very negatively altered by it.
It's something I could handle. You also still have your soul, it's just tainted and will go to Bal on death(unless you circumvent that in some way).
>cursed with immortality >only restriction is you have to be a night hawk and drink blood
Shit, I barely leave my house as is and blood sausage is dope.
>Pain and illness vanish within the Hall of Valor. Revelry is never-ending, mead flows freely, and the greatest Nords of all time compete in tests of strength and prowess.
I don't understand why anyone would become a vampire knowing their soul will be claimed by Molag Bal in the afterlife. I'd prefer not to be murder-raped for an eternity. Hircine is based though. An afterlife of hunting giant cougars or some shit doesn't sound too bad.
>Chances are you might end up being hunted
Hircine himself takes the role of the hunted from time to time. To put on a good hunt can be just as thrilling as being the hunter.
Don't know why people would ever bare their torso. All your vital organs and the toughest place to keep warm. I go outside during the middle of winter in shorts and a hoodie all the time (if there's no wind), the reverse seems moronic.
no not like some homosexual fursona looking shit, I am talking about something without human hair, something absolutely dangerous looking monster with big honking breasts and hips that would birth 20 children from our unholy alliance
technically the "were" in werewolf comes from wereman, the old english word for man.
The female word for woman was wifman, so following the same logic a female lycanthrope should be called a "Wifwolf"
Vampire if it didn't control like shit and the magic wasn't gimped by being skyrim magic.
Werewolf only cool if you do dawnguard playthrough at which point you become stealth crossbowman once you've eaten enough hearts to fill your skill tree
more like >downside of a vampire >10 pages of detailed lore >downside of a werewolf >you are evil because urgh you just are ok go kill some shit with your buffed damage
>reeee you can't be a vampire and want to kill vampires! GET OUT! >huh? wat do you mean you're bringing an ancient vampire here instead of just killing her and taking the elder scroll she carries? oh I guess she's fine, she can help us 🙂
Frick the Dawnguard. They manage to come off as even more lame and lazy compared to a literal bandit faction (the Silver Hand).
>you are evil because urgh you just are ok go kill some shit with your buffed damage
The amount of werewolf lore that was accumulated over the centuries makes them so damn complex that they can be good, evil, neutral, standard hollywood, mystical, spiritual and far, far more.
>be a vampire >Molag Bal claims your soul and torments it forever in his "nirn but everything is fricking awful" pocket dimension
>be a werewolf >Hircine claims your soul and sends it to his furry RP pocket dimension where you do nothing but chase animals around and eat them or get eaten whenever Hircine feels like spicing things up
>vampire clan >receive constant damage from sun, get assassinated every week, everyone hates you on sight, +1 magic >werewolf >regenerate HP 10x agility/speed/strength resets wanted level every day and you don't require any special equipment
ah gee this is a tough one
ez shit >walk round corner >kill furry/nord/imperial whatever is there >wear hat of frick you regen i made >take hat off so it don't get damaged by yiff >repeat
Werewolves in morrowind were awfully balanced. They didn't scale at all. Just set stats. I'm not saying that vampire was any better, but you're better off just being human in morrowind
You get a marginal damage boost after a certain quest yes, it's still not enough to keep the form competitive when compared to how strong an ordinary character can be. You may also be referring to how you can get the ring of hircine which just makes it so you can transform into a werewolf at will, regardless of whether or not you are a werewolf, you don't have to kill an npc when transforming in this manner, but that is a separate magic item that mimics lycanthropy, we're talking about real lycanthropy.
For Skyrim specifically I'd go vampire. The drawbacks were really minimized compared to Oblivion. I do like the theming and aesthetic of vampires, but generally the downside to being one is usually too much of a drag. If I could get away with like a blood mage or something I'd probably go for that over being literally cursed.
yeah but what happens when some shitter messes with your phylactery? also wouldnt being a skellyton and not having any of your senses (taste,touch,smell) suck? whats the point of life if you cant enjoy the finer things?
the fun part is its literally just a random furry dude. the set is supposed to be based on Fairy tales but they already covered "Beauty and the Beast" last set so this guy is just some random knight with some funky taste.
>your incredible power level attracts women like flies to honey >you finally have the harem you deserve >but you can't do anything with them because your weiner rotted off eons ago
Damn shame
Is it actually canon that all vampires get their souls reclaimed by the rape god, or is this another piece of fanfiction like "the dragonborn's soul will return to Akatosh once he dies"?
Basically anything that happens after death is headcanon
The only one we know for sure works exactly as it says without almost any assumptions is the Soul Cairn
the fact that you can get your soul claimed by over 7 different daedra gods and sovngarde o top of that still confuses me, I just want to see how they sort that shit out once it's time to collect.
Makes me wonder if different Khajit Furstocks would come out differently when transforming even while being the same were creature. I would guess some would be larger or smaller than others? What about the ones that are quadrapedal already? Would they stay that way?
Why did the Harkons dress like gothic vampires when they were all born in a land of ooga booga shamanistic snow barbarians during what was basically Tamriel's equivalent to the bronze age?
They only lived in the second era, between the Reman empire and Septim empires.
They were detached nobles, likely more connected to Highrock than Skyrim, and Daedra worshippers.
Because they wanted an expansion themed around stereotypical vampires really badly and they wouldn't be able to do that if the Volkihars remained a bunch of creepy mummies who lived in frozen lakes
>a bunch of creepy mummies who lived in frozen lakes
that would've been fricking cool
Morrowind did it in a really interesting way, with the different clans. It was a really subtle feature of the game that was easy to miss.
too bad vampirism in skyrim is totally fricking inconsequential and amounts to nothing.
i swear it's like they're trying to make this shit boring on purpose
They only lived in the second era, between the Reman empire and Septim empires.
They were detached nobles, likely more connected to Highrock than Skyrim, and Daedra worshippers.
Yes.
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Once with a few mods (slower time, werewolf duration extensions stack rather than reset, some night darkness and mood) I just spent an hour running around Whiterun plains and the snow-topped mountains to the north, waiting for my transformation to run its course, howling at the moon and sending anything I stumbled on running with the terror howl.
Not you're a coward ass b***h like me.
Blend into a town for a decade, move to a new one for the next decade. Avoid war, only feed on cute bandit women(you're a gay if you've ever sucked on a dude), and keep out of local politics.
I recently played a run where I was consciously using the transformation as much as possible, especially in dungeons and areas where it wouldn’t get me a bounty, it’s honestly pretty strong if you’re not the type that exploits yourself to godhood.
Get the ring of Hircine for extra transformations, maybe use a mod if you don’t like the default skills. It’s good fun, frick vampires.
half of the aedra only did it because they got literally tricked into it and immediately began to wage war against Lorkhan and early Men after finding out about it
The fact that Auriel/Akatosh can still BTFO literally any Daedric prince while in a weakened state seems to indicate the Aedra are stronger.
Also, the main thing that separates them is being Anuic or Padomaic in origin.
You only ever see that happen in Mundus, which does actually give some credibility to Mankar Camoran’s claim that it is also a plane of Oblivion.
Inb4 something that happens in eso contradicts this.
>vamp lord gets basically flight and is op as frick >werewolf can run real fast and with growl mod is pretty fun
depends on the char
casters get vamp and melee chads get werewolf. even though all my skyrim chars end up doing everything eventually and end up as vamps because its just moronic busted
I always play an Imperial vampire in every TES game and live in dark isolated places like Deepscorn Hollow or Bloodchill Cavern. Never done a furry run, sounds kinda gay.
With enai mods, I'd say vampires are the more interesting of the two, but I've always been more of a lycanthrope kinda guy (not a furry)
Played a two-handed Nord supremacist heavy armored warrior that was also a werewolf. Wuuthrad was my weapon of choice, first time I completed the companions quest line and despite it being the worst questline in skyrim barring the mages, it still had some kino moments. Taking wuuthrad to solstheim to reclaim the island was a great feeling. Hail Ysgramor
Now I'm playing as an evil Altmer vampire (who I accidently made very similar to neo cortex), sole survivor of the Aundae after Vvardenfell exploded. The blue blood quest added by the enai vamp mod is pretty cool, and it was funny being in a room where I had previously sucked the blood of everyone present for op abilities. Played through the thieves guild, stalking my prey on the roads at night, my character was more defined by his undead condition than the Nord was.
If only there was a wereboar mod, now that was kino in daggerfall
Honestly what’s so bad about the Companions quest line?
Not saying it’s particularly great but it doesn’t seem particularly standout bad compared to the rest of Skyrim’s stuff
The pace, mostly, and also how they're presented as a morally good faction. DB and the TG ease you in a bit before shit goes down (though they still have their problems). In the companions, you do 1 radiant quest, 1 quest where you discover the circle are all werewolves, another radiant quest and then you become a werewolf and are let loose in whiterun to rampage and eat people. This is never mentioned again. The silver-hand are bad people because they hunt werewolves, werewolves who kill and eat humans. Also the silver-hand are awful antagonists. The only named member you kill in the second main quest of the guild and it's a randomly generated npc. Why is the faction based around honorable one-on-one combat the only one not to have an actual main antagonist?
The companions are still my favorite faction, but is also my least favorite questline, if that makes any sense. I love the characters, the way there is no leader, and it's a lot more flavorful than being another goddamn fighter's guild.
Despite some awful plot holes, the thieves guild is the best questline once you swallow the fact that you aren't really thieves and more like the mafia, which is refreshing to have an actual evil thief faction in the elder scrolls
>pace
I guess I always assumed they just lessened the mechanics of having to do a bunch of radiant quests for the next quests to become available for the Game of the Year addition because people just wanted to get to the next stuff at this point. But if not, fair point
>silver hand
The silver hand sort of are the bad guys from the perspective of the Companions (which if you’re doing the quests, you’re a part of). I don’t recall anyone referring to them as bad who isn’t also a Companion. It’s more of a >these guys want to kill every werewolf, regardless of alignment
The Companion werewolves appear in control enough and it would seem use the werewolf curse for the general good. You point to your first transformation but based on Aela’s line when you come to after I assume the argument is that you got loose by accident to potentially harm the people of Whiterun. You could argue that that proves the curse is too dangerous and therefore makes the Silver Hand’s case but technically you the player are in full control the whole time and you could just chill out of sight until it goes away without any violence.
But otherwise I agree with the rest. Especially the Thieve’s guild
>personal opinion
Werewolf all the way + its not like Hircine or his afterlife are the worst out of all the daedric princes, its a 50/50 on if you come out alright with him and those are decent odds when dealing with Daedric Princes
>the opinion of the Last Dragoborn, as i roleplay the character
Neither, he gives daedric the princes the middle finger as much as possible and wont accept a curse from them if he can help it
>The companions are still my favorite faction, but is also my least favorite questline, if that makes any sense. I love the characters, the way there is no leader, and it's a lot more flavorful than being another goddamn fighter's guild.
same, thats the reason i always have a house in Whiterun or close to it, even with mods. Honestly mostly to stay close to the faction
>2016 >Finally build that gaming PC >Install Skyrim and mod the hell out of it after not having played since 2011 on Xbox 360 >Remember main story being average, sidequests being great, exploration being kino, but above all else Dawnguard being amazing >See early warning signs I am misremembering things by Whiterun but brush it off >Start Dawnguard as early as able >Decide of course I'll be joining Dawnguard and not vampires >Get Serana, quest tells me to take her to vampires >Lol no way >Take her to Dawnguard >The guy who hates and distrusts the frick out of vampires literally tells me to listen to a vampire >U wot >Take her to vampire family and he now has his daughter and an elder scroll >Dawnguard black guy is stunned I actually did what he told me to do and somehow finds a way to still passively blame me for doing what he said
Yeah, I still have no clue how I was one of the cheerleaders for this game back in the day. I was only in 8th grade when it came out so maybe that was why. Holy shit Bethesda should've gone out of business a long time ago.
Its absolutely bs how there were no major werewolf interactions or more quests in skyrim. Hell, only the solstheim werewolves and harkon take notice and comment on you being a werewolf.
It's also funny because skyrim is considered the best werewolf game to date.
>It's also funny because skyrim is considered the best werewolf game to date.
This really is a crime. Vampires have all kinds of shit but werewolves barely have any video games. I would love an Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction style game with a werewolf coat of paint
I guess there’s WtA:Earthblood. But I assume it’s a little different than say Bloodlines from what I gather. Less of an rpg and more of an action game with a set protagonist
Never hear anyone talk about it here so I just assumed it wasn’t that great. It’s on the list to check out eventually for me tho
>living innawoods on a homestead alone >livestock start disappearing >you suspect it's werewolves >confirmed when they start getting more brazen >you're out of livestock, they're appearing in the moonlight in front of you to frick with you >too far from civilization to escape >they start clawing the doors at night to let you know they could get in if they wanted to >can't go outside anymore >supplies running low >sometimes they leave a gift of food so you can keep hiding inside your cabin another night longer >sometimes they smash a window, again just to frick with you >sometimes they do nothing, leave nothing, make no noise. Are they gone? You won't chance going outside to check >you're basically a werewolf clan's pet until they get bored and stop giving you food so you'll make a break for it and get bit
why is this not a game
>in lore: werewolves, werebears, werebears, werecrocodiles, werevultures, werelions, weresharks >in game: werewolves, werebears (1 game lol) and werebears (not players LOL) >in lore: volkihar vampires live in frozen lakes and are able to magically phase through the ice to drown their >in game: lol 20% frost resist, less than ordinary nonmagical Nords have innately
Why is bethesda so unbelievably mediocre?
>hate playing anything but human, or at least a vampire without a moronic Underworld transformation >forced to play both to get 100% achievements
feels bad man
Some butthole from Nacon caused some financial shenanigans and wanted to pull off a hostile takeover if I remember correctly from an anon that was looking into it.
He didn't succeed, but the damage was done and a chunk of stuff in Earthblood was cut out. Including stuff like getting into a Frenzy and loosing yourself in it having impactful consequences.
Truly a shame.
The game clearly had talent and good ideas behind it. The intro is brutal. But then the game adopts a very undwhelming pace and it becomes just a timekilling game. Although I personally enjoyed the last act quite a lot. I guess the game letting me go rage mode no matter what (even while talking to NPCs) made me get into it more.
I use to love the books as a kid. Had high hopes for the game.
They completely dropped the fricking ball!
First mistake was not giving people the option of creating their own werewolf and choosing their clan.
Could you even make a good game out of the other White Wolf games?
Vampire obviously works
Werewolf could probably work
I remember hearing Mage doesn't even work as its own tabletop property
Sacrosanct made being a vampire pretty entertaining though it's best picked up early since there's a blue blood quest it adds about sucking the blood of important figures in the story, sort of like how cannibalizing major leaders in New Vegas gave you a perk.
>werewolf >extremely strong but very boring in what it can do, so it’ll be fun for like an hour max and then just a broken tool that makes the game boring afterwards >vampire lord >almost exactly as OP but with a bunch of more interesting spells and such to use, can fly around nuking people and draining their health then violently claw them to death if you run out of magic, or you can frick around by summoning gargoyles, grabbing enemies and choking them like fricking Vader, or using paralysis spells to make any fight a breeze.
Vampire lord by far. Looks cooler, is significantly more fun, it isn’t on some bullshit timer so you can go back and forth as much as you want, you have way more options with what you can do it just btfos werewolf hands down. Especially when you realize you can frick the physics engine by combining the paralysis spell with vampiric grip to make their bodies fly around at mach 10, never gets old
>werewolf is a ferocious werebeast of hircine >a monstrous animal >gets a form that reflects this
>vampires are sneaky, deceptive, manipulative, and need to hide from normal society and blend in when necessary >GLOWING YELLOW EYES THAT ANYONE WITHIN 30 FEET WOULD KNOW "FRICKING VAMPIRE!" >huge monstrous bat animal form >???
In morrowind vampire clans lived far away from civilization and did well to hide themselves so the whole continent wouldn't purge them, meanwhile the glowing eyes neon sign vampires in skyrim live in a giant castle right next to solitude and nobody really notices or cares, and they run around in giant hircine werebat form. Skyrim is fun but holy frick is it dumb as shit.
Glowing eyes was a dawn guard addition which was basically made for fun after one of h the devs created the vampire lord form. The writing in it is probably the worst I’ve seen in any ES game. They obviously didn’t put their best foot forward.
>Vampire >One of the best RPGs ever made, can play as many different clans, has memorable characters. >Werewolf >Literal who hack and slash, play as exactly ONE character, and most people who know about this game can't even name said character.
Vampire all the way
I had more fun as a werewolf but was disappointed when the other companions who shared Hircine's gift wouldn't join in the rampage. I didn't sense any real consequences in accepting waifur blood from Aela or a Volkihar Clan hicky from Serana, especially in the case of becoming a vampire since Isran just tells you to gtfo and schedule an appointment with Falion at midnight.
Vampire can use vampiric grip to throw guys off cliffs so I'd go with that
also I like the mods that let you feed during combat like skyrim's "better vampires" or oblivion's "blood is everything"
It would be if they didn't look like dollar store count dracula Halloween costumes in Skyrim. With little capes and skull clasps in a spooky gothic castle. Sleeping in literal coffins for beds every night.
Literally BLEH I vant to suck your blood bleh-he-heh- Scooby Doo shit what the frick was Todd smoking. I'm surprised you didn't kill them by wearing a garlic clove necklace
I find Werewolf fun for the sheer brutality and scary value, but the magic that vampires can tap into is powerful levels of coolness and much more fun potential.
Something that really bothers me about werewolves is how their connection to nature (which is cool btw) is preconceived to make them live like savages (as in it's usually portrayed). Elves for example are really nature-friendly guys, but they are usually laid out as powerful magicians with cool "cities". Why can't werewolves have this? Why do they have to live like stinky murder hobos with no place to call home except some ever changing green dark forest? Fricking hell, I'm sick and tired of it.
Because it's a curse you moron. It's not supposed to be nice. You painfully, excruciatingly transform into a bloodthirsty killing machine and horribly murder and cannibalize anyone near to you.
Neither are a debilitating supernatural plague equal to hell for the afflicted so it's dogshit.
Frick this bullshit of Werewolves and Vampires being a superpower. It's total nonsense. These are demonic creatures that ruin generations of people not some power fantasy. THEY ARE CREATURES OF THE NIGHT FOR KILLING
Holy frick I hate this shit so much. It's easily the worst thing to ever happen to entertainment.
Vampire lets you be powerful and in charge of your faculties. Sure werewolves are strong and smart but one moment you'll black out driving to the store and the next you're naked on your neighbors lawn after taking a massive dog shit on it
I liked the Underworld approach were werewolves will kick the absolute shit out of vampires until a vampire elder shows up and starts snapping their necks with one hand
Technically yes. However, you have to be a female and undergo a special ritual with a LOT of sacrifices to get the stuff Serana and her mom have. Harkon got blood directly from Molag Bal, so he skipped on getting his ass fricked by sacrificing a LOT of people (including wife and daughter).
Why would he care about vampires? They are undead, they already can enter and leave the "afterlife" on their own or at the very least the underworld while "living". When they die they just vanish or become something else entirely like Wraiths.
that's a relatively late addition really. dracula does in the book, and carmilla doesn't like being in the sun but it doesn't seem harm her or anything. sunlight killing vampires was i think created for the movie nosferatu to give it a big climax
KILL ALL VAMPIRES, ROUNDHOUSE KICK A VAMPIRE, BREAK A VAMPIRES FINGERS WITH A HAMMER, BOIL VAMPIRES IN GARLIC ACID, CHAIN VAMPIRES TO A STAKE WITH NO SHADE, KICK VAMPIRES INTO RUNNING WATER, STAKE A VAMPIRE WITH HOLY FIRE
Being a vampire in oblivion was better because it was just a free stat boost and you just have to wait and slurp a hobo every now and then. It was dumb in Skyrim, nothing>wolf>vamp
>like werewolves and other beastmen races because they're hulking vicious creatures >have no sexual thoughts towards them >get lumped in with the furries because "wolves are my animalkin tehee :3"
the only respite i have are the warhammer fantasy lizardmen because half of them are ugly frogs and furries haven't started drawing themselves as the other half
Werewolf was better imo because you didn’t have to deal with the sun or feeding off humans and shit. Plus going on a rampage felt more satisfying than the vampire lord form. And using the werewolfs roar like a dragonshout was badass and is the very definition of soul. Although I wish you could’ve switched back and forth between forms like the vampire.
>Vampires were usually reported as bloated in appearance, and ruddy, purplish, or dark in colour >its teeth, hair, and nails may have grown somewhat, though in general fangs were not a feature
Neither, honestly. The "suave" vampire didn't come along until later, but literal batlike humans were more of an asian thing (manananggal)
>vampiric drain sucks ass >only buff is from the chalice, only lasts for 24h and is marginal >can't even use auriels bow to block the sun consistently w/o fear of random vamp attacks killing npcs
Both
Hybrid is master race
spoken like the eternal muttoid
>he doesnt know
oh nononono
facts
I want a remake where they make him a femboy
i want a remake of this timeline where you're not in it
daddy is so~ cruel today UwU
I like it ;3
Ooo daddy likes it rough~
nice sketch bro
we already have a female version
It always bothered me that there's nothing lycan about him at all.
Im blue daba-daba-dee-da...
>t.
spotted the American
Not possible. Daedra don't share.
Me, Vampire
My boyfriend, Werewolf.
uwu
not being a deadra worshipping cuck
>Vampire
>Well Balanced stat spread
>Bunch of ultra conditional powers and secondary restrictions
>Werewolf
>Unga bunga World of STR
>Big numbers and regen
Objectively werewolf
you dont control wolfing
and youre a furry
After doing a full playthrough of this recently, yeah vampires fricking lame. Wolf I just turned wolf and massacred the entire continent in 1 transformation and maxed out my whole tree.
Nothing stands a chance and you just rip through everyone.
you have to transform into a werewolf to get any of the benefits of being one.
while you are in that form, you cant interact with anything,
its a shame, because they are much cooler than gaypires
At least you can open doors pull levers
Usually, but not always, you can rampage to the end of the cave/area and then walk through the aftermath and loot/open chests
I do wish we had more control shifting in and out. The ring helps but it’s not perfect
Both are literal curses, why the frick would you want that?
Cursed with super speed, super strength and immortality, yikes
>If you ever die your soul gets buttfricked for an eternity.
Yikes indeed
Not if you're an Elder Srolls protagonist.
only the gaypires
werechads get to run around and kill shit for eternity
skill issue
People need to remember that vampires aren’t bad because they’re oppressed by humans and the sun, they’re evil by nature because they gave up their soul and humanity for immortal life and power. It's hard to imagine a loss of empathy or humanity in ourselves because suddenly getting turned evil is hard to picture while still retaining parts of your personality. It's why being a vampire seems appealing on paper because the concept of a soul usually only seems relevant in the afterlife. In reality, by reality I mean in this fiction and those like it, if you were made a vampire you wouldn't be able to want to be good nor would you attempt all those noble things you thought you would after becoming immortal: you wouldn't dedicate your time to researching amazing things and only eating the bad. No, you would be petty, narcissistic, disloyal, shortsighted and savage. You would not be able to grasp the issue with stabbing an old woman in the back as long you're no caught and you would meditate on those you have wrong assuming they are dead. You would be evil and soulless and your thoughts would be barely human, despite poessing intellect and human memories. You could not make friends, love beauty, respect others or even feel content with peace. You would live in a cave be an butthole because anything else you would ruin by your disgust and irreverence
yo is this the same artist that did the art for behind the dune , i recognize those breasts
Doesn't look like it
bro those breasts look like thighs
She is leaning forward and they are of a sufficient size/shape so yeah
That is not how it would look. No matter how buxom. This is why you should always draw with a reference.
dude, they're not supposed to start at the neck
>People need to remember
>skyrim coomers
>people
Big booba coomers are certainly more respectable than scaly baragays
>baragay calling others coomers
>coomers
🙁
>coomers (gay)
😀
Don't listen to them lizardman appreciator, they can only understand things through a pornographic context
The frick ever, I can appreciate lizardwomen too but that is not the standard Argonian model
>People need to remember that vampires aren’t bad because they’re oppressed by humans and the sun, they’re evil by nature because they gave up their soul and humanity for immortal life and power.
This falls apart when you make vampirism contractable.
It still transforms your soul and mind. Read the ingame books about it.
that's a hell lot of a projection
just feed on certain undesirables instead of randomly killing innocents
one could literately alter and change and control the entire world empire on a whim were one a vampire
You're not getting it. A vampire wouldn't CARE about morals like eating only le bads. Losing your soul and becoming a monster isn't just a societal idea, you literally BECOME evil
This, the need to dominate runs so strong in vampires due to being created by Molag Bal they just backstab each other like morons because they all want to be on top. They are inclined to seek positions of power even at the risk of exposing themselves to unnecessary danger.
Count Hasildor was a good guy
Goddamn imagine the sex tho
what sex?
her vegana is a gaping cave shaped in the image of the mace of molag bal
It may reduce your empathy slightly, but Serana is clearly not very negatively altered by it.
It's something I could handle. You also still have your soul, it's just tainted and will go to Bal on death(unless you circumvent that in some way).
But at what cost? Fundamentally you cease to be yourself in both cases.
Werewolves get to be themselves during the day
>cursed with immortality
>only restriction is you have to be a night hawk and drink blood
Shit, I barely leave my house as is and blood sausage is dope.
Vampires being bat people is gay as frick.
Vampires should only ever be undead illuminati.
No, cope
Frick you they're both.
What?
Greymane or Battleborn?
Clean the cum out of your ears
werewolves are better
Sovngarde, thank you very much.
Have fun being either chased and slaughtered repeatedly or raped for all eternity.
My only regret is that I can't combine the two
>Sovngarde
You know you fight to the death in sovngarde over and over too, right?
no?
>Pain and illness vanish within the Hall of Valor. Revelry is never-ending, mead flows freely, and the greatest Nords of all time compete in tests of strength and prowess.
You literally fricking go there.
Vampire and werewolf slayer.
I don't understand why anyone would become a vampire knowing their soul will be claimed by Molag Bal in the afterlife. I'd prefer not to be murder-raped for an eternity. Hircine is based though. An afterlife of hunting giant cougars or some shit doesn't sound too bad.
Werewolf + werewolf wife
Best answer itt.
Btw do any lorebuffs know if Hircine also sponsors sexual hunt and pursuit?
Molag Bal, King of Rape
This.
this
>Skjor'd
Oh no no no no
mod?
I see
So the question can just be boiled down to wolf girls or bat girls
Anon your werewolf wife has a pretty serious case of mange, you might want to get that looked at.
She doesn't have mange, but hey that's a good excuse to take a bath with her and also frick her werewolf pussy
God loona is so fricking hot its not fair bros
This.
Thanks for reminding me of this really shitty P2W browser game called Bitefight I tried back in 2004.
Hey I played that too
Kept getting ganked camped by a vamp clan and quit
I played that too.
Jesus what a garbage game that I got addicted to for a couple weeks.
Oh man, that's a blast from the past.
Guilds were a scam in that game.
not playing shitty gayms
Lich
>spend eternity hunting in the wild
>spend eternity getting assfricked
Tough choice
being hunted in the wild*
>spend eternity hunting in the wild
Chances are you might end up being hunted
>spend eternity getting assfricked
Just don't die bro. Easy.
Every so often it's your turn to be the prey, so what? Put on a good chase and Hircine might allow you to be the hunter more often
>Chances are you might end up being hunted
Hircine himself takes the role of the hunted from time to time. To put on a good hunt can be just as thrilling as being the hunter.
We need to make Vampires masc again.
Frick the wereBlack folk,
Total wereBlack person death,
Nord, human, male.
Frick all undead.
you're gonna catch all the diseases, corpsefricker
Don't know why people would ever bare their torso. All your vital organs and the toughest place to keep warm. I go outside during the middle of winter in shorts and a hoodie all the time (if there's no wind), the reverse seems moronic.
t. snowBlack person
Vampire so I can cast werewolf CHUDS into the vortex of forever burning souls.
Knot > Human
Werewolf has no downsides whereas Vampire is complete ass.
You get no rested xp as werewolf
Fair enough. But that is a very minor penalty, especially compared to Vampires
if we're talking TES then neither
werewolf wife
GOD
no not like some homosexual fursona looking shit, I am talking about something without human hair, something absolutely dangerous looking monster with big honking breasts and hips that would birth 20 children from our unholy alliance
Yeah well I don't have much of that, and most of what I've got I can't post.
>something absolutely dangerous looking monster
YE-
>with big honking breasts and hips that would birth 20 childr
holy shit frick. off. Fricking Steak Well-done with Ketchup please manchild. out of my house with that weak ass shit.
>I'm a gay with aids
damn you should do something about that
Like who doesn’t like big breasts and hips?
Why is he wearing clothes?
Hard day
Just threw himself into bed and fell asleep with his werewolf wife
Based
Werewolfpilled and utterly based.
technically the "were" in werewolf comes from wereman, the old english word for man.
The female word for woman was wifman, so following the same logic a female lycanthrope should be called a "Wifwolf"
More like Wifewolf, hemirite?
that would be etymologically correct.
Lich
Only good post itt
both forms absolutely suck
the real answer is necromage vampire that never uses the lord form
nothing goes harder than a male worgen wearing heavy plate and weilding a bigass sword.
Werewolf with vampire wife
vampire illusionist but never using the shitty vampire form
Vampire if it didn't control like shit and the magic wasn't gimped by being skyrim magic.
Werewolf only cool if you do dawnguard playthrough at which point you become stealth crossbowman once you've eaten enough hearts to fill your skill tree
Werepyre
Good man
unbelievably based
Ahhh, AQW, I never got to finish the 14 Lords of Chaos storyline, I hope it’s all intact when I revisit the AQ remake or sequel or whatever
>downsides of werewolf: no well rested buff
>downsides of vampire: 10 paragraphs
more like
>downside of a vampire
>10 pages of detailed lore
>downside of a werewolf
>you are evil because urgh you just are ok go kill some shit with your buffed damage
>10 pages of detailed lore
>reeee you can't be a vampire and want to kill vampires! GET OUT!
>huh? wat do you mean you're bringing an ancient vampire here instead of just killing her and taking the elder scroll she carries? oh I guess she's fine, she can help us 🙂
Frick the Dawnguard. They manage to come off as even more lame and lazy compared to a literal bandit faction (the Silver Hand).
You only say that because Isran is voiced by a real black guy and you're racist.
Well yeah, that Black person wishes he was as cool as Blade. That's why you can't be a vampire who hunts other vampires.
what game is this?
ukraine simulator
Yo is that motherfricking vivisector
refined taste.
>you are evil because urgh you just are ok go kill some shit with your buffed damage
The amount of werewolf lore that was accumulated over the centuries makes them so damn complex that they can be good, evil, neutral, standard hollywood, mystical, spiritual and far, far more.
not a single game uses any werewolf lore beside apocalypse and thats some pants on head moronic abandonware crap
Damn that wolf is pretty cute
I simply kill both.
Holy shit Buddha, amitabha!
Dawnguard.
DP
what
Got stones in your ears? DP!
Dragon priest
it must be nice to still be innocent
Oh shit, really? Props to that lad for managing not to sound like a Black person. Never would've figured if you hadn't told me.
>be a vampire
>Molag Bal claims your soul and torments it forever in his "nirn but everything is fricking awful" pocket dimension
>be a werewolf
>Hircine claims your soul and sends it to his furry RP pocket dimension where you do nothing but chase animals around and eat them or get eaten whenever Hircine feels like spicing things up
>vampire clan
>receive constant damage from sun, get assassinated every week, everyone hates you on sight, +1 magic
>werewolf
>regenerate HP 10x agility/speed/strength resets wanted level every day and you don't require any special equipment
ah gee this is a tough one
that image is reminding me of the fricking werewolf maze in bloodmoon
ez shit
>walk round corner
>kill furry/nord/imperial whatever is there
>wear hat of frick you regen i made
>take hat off so it don't get damaged by yiff
>repeat
Werewolves in morrowind were awfully balanced. They didn't scale at all. Just set stats. I'm not saying that vampire was any better, but you're better off just being human in morrowind
>he doesn't know you can upgrade them by following the quest line
You get a marginal damage boost after a certain quest yes, it's still not enough to keep the form competitive when compared to how strong an ordinary character can be. You may also be referring to how you can get the ring of hircine which just makes it so you can transform into a werewolf at will, regardless of whether or not you are a werewolf, you don't have to kill an npc when transforming in this manner, but that is a separate magic item that mimics lycanthropy, we're talking about real lycanthropy.
Both. They are meant to be together.
That's a big mouth.
4u
For Skyrim specifically I'd go vampire. The drawbacks were really minimized compared to Oblivion. I do like the theming and aesthetic of vampires, but generally the downside to being one is usually too much of a drag. If I could get away with like a blood mage or something I'd probably go for that over being literally cursed.
being a vampire was more fun in oblivion since you could boost athletics and acrobatics beyond 100 to jump high and run fast
harkons blood should just be a buff to normal vampire powers not press z to bloatmaxx
TAKE THE LICHPILL
>Sick skeleton body
>Magic beyond mortal reckoning
>Absolute freedom from gods and men
yeah but what happens when some shitter messes with your phylactery? also wouldnt being a skellyton and not having any of your senses (taste,touch,smell) suck? whats the point of life if you cant enjoy the finer things?
>werewolf wife
literally peak performance.
the fun part is its literally just a random furry dude. the set is supposed to be based on Fairy tales but they already covered "Beauty and the Beast" last set so this guy is just some random knight with some funky taste.
wtf is his problem?
If someone can frick with your phylactery and you can't enjoy the finer things in life, then that just means you're a really shitty lich
phylactery is only used during ascension when you are actually lich it has no purpose and can just be broken
Why does he have a burger king crown?
>your incredible power level attracts women like flies to honey
>you finally have the harem you deserve
>but you can't do anything with them because your weiner rotted off eons ago
Damn shame
You're a wizard beyond the likes of common reasoning, you can just make one
ywnharw
If anything, magic wiener is better, because it's earned
Mannimarco's b***hes seemed happy enough
>magic wiener is better
good that you've started working on the cope early
maybe it'll make you forget the rotting wound that your wienerhole emits
>rotting wound
That's all bone, baby
I was so mad that they wouldn't let you become a lich in Oblivion
Vampire sheathfricking a werewolf
Is it actually canon that all vampires get their souls reclaimed by the rape god, or is this another piece of fanfiction like "the dragonborn's soul will return to Akatosh once he dies"?
Basically anything that happens after death is headcanon
The only one we know for sure works exactly as it says without almost any assumptions is the Soul Cairn
the fact that you can get your soul claimed by over 7 different daedra gods and sovngarde o top of that still confuses me, I just want to see how they sort that shit out once it's time to collect.
Akatosh is higher than any Daedra, so he gets the Dragonborn's soul.
No he isn't
back to your cuck shed of a realm daedric homosexual
aedra are cucks who got tricked into giving up their powers and creating nirn by a daedra-adjacent padomeic chad
If aedras gave up their power why are you daedric cuckolds still completely impotent against them?
a mere avatar of akatosh is enough to frick up mehrunes dagon himself
t.
Morrowind did it in a really interesting way, with the different clans. It was a really subtle feature of the game that was easy to miss.
Every race should have had unique werewolves.
Khajit should be were-tigers and Argonians should have been were-gators.
>Khajit should be were-tigers
Why
It's not like humans turn into were-gorillas
That would be fricking cool so I'll support that too
no, orcs are the ones who do that
Makes me wonder if different Khajit Furstocks would come out differently when transforming even while being the same were creature. I would guess some would be larger or smaller than others? What about the ones that are quadrapedal already? Would they stay that way?
>Alfiq turns into a werecat
>its still the same size
Kill both.
Why did the Harkons dress like gothic vampires when they were all born in a land of ooga booga shamanistic snow barbarians during what was basically Tamriel's equivalent to the bronze age?
because bethesda
Midwit take
Enlightened take
Because they wanted an expansion themed around stereotypical vampires really badly and they wouldn't be able to do that if the Volkihars remained a bunch of creepy mummies who lived in frozen lakes
>a bunch of creepy mummies who lived in frozen lakes
that would've been fricking cool
too bad vampirism in skyrim is totally fricking inconsequential and amounts to nothing.
i swear it's like they're trying to make this shit boring on purpose
what the frick are you talking about
have you seen ysgramor's armor?
They only lived in the second era, between the Reman empire and Septim empires.
They were detached nobles, likely more connected to Highrock than Skyrim, and Daedra worshippers.
The best thing about the Dawnguard DLC was the Dwemer sidequest chain.
fricking Serana in werewolf form in front of her dad
In Skyrim, although I prefer werewolf, being a vampire allows you to improve your gear better due to the Necromage perk
so, Vampire begrudgingly
This plus 100% resistance to disease
Plus you get cool glowing eyes
neither in skyrim lmao
See
the thumbnail of this image makes it appear as though the werewolf has a giant limp penis
Being a werewolf in Skyrim VR is a cathartic experience. Rip and tear.
Sounds kino
Yes.
https://streamable.com/ua1kjo
Once with a few mods (slower time, werewolf duration extensions stack rather than reset, some night darkness and mood) I just spent an hour running around Whiterun plains and the snow-topped mountains to the north, waiting for my transformation to run its course, howling at the moon and sending anything I stumbled on running with the terror howl.
It was incredibly relaxing.
Vampire.
Eternal life makes the negatives worth it.
>eternal life
You will most likely die in the most brutal way possible after a few centuries at best.
Not you're a coward ass b***h like me.
Blend into a town for a decade, move to a new one for the next decade. Avoid war, only feed on cute bandit women(you're a gay if you've ever sucked on a dude), and keep out of local politics.
Half vampire, all the benefits, none of the drawbacks
Werewolf with breasts
I recently played a run where I was consciously using the transformation as much as possible, especially in dungeons and areas where it wouldn’t get me a bounty, it’s honestly pretty strong if you’re not the type that exploits yourself to godhood.
Get the ring of Hircine for extra transformations, maybe use a mod if you don’t like the default skills. It’s good fun, frick vampires.
Werewolf/Garou bros where we at?
Leechgays get the rope.
Werewolf who drinks vampire's blood.
Neither, I'm not a furgay nor an undead freak.
>all these lorelets who don't know that literally the only thing that separates daedra from aedra is their role in the creation of mundus
lmao
That differing role speaks to their mindsets and motives
half of the aedra only did it because they got literally tricked into it and immediately began to wage war against Lorkhan and early Men after finding out about it
>muh lore
No one cares, nerd.
The fact that Auriel/Akatosh can still BTFO literally any Daedric prince while in a weakened state seems to indicate the Aedra are stronger.
Also, the main thing that separates them is being Anuic or Padomaic in origin.
You only ever see that happen in Mundus, which does actually give some credibility to Mankar Camoran’s claim that it is also a plane of Oblivion.
Inb4 something that happens in eso contradicts this.
Does anyone have that werewolf x man Skyrim video that used to be on pornhub? Can't seem to find it anywhere
Pls respond
>vamp lord gets basically flight and is op as frick
>werewolf can run real fast and with growl mod is pretty fun
depends on the char
casters get vamp and melee chads get werewolf. even though all my skyrim chars end up doing everything eventually and end up as vamps because its just moronic busted
Kill all Bethesda shills
Hug all Bethesdachads
Imagine being completely comatose and vulnerable HALF of the time and everyone knowing exactly when LMAO
In Skyrim? Werewolf because although Hircine ain’t the best, the alternative is worse
With traditional lore? still werewolf because frick dem leeches
Vampire. With high skill in either alchemy or enchanting, the downsides of vampirism can be overcome and ignored.
Draugr.
Vampires are cooler, but I'd rather frick a werewolf.
I always play an Imperial vampire in every TES game and live in dark isolated places like Deepscorn Hollow or Bloodchill Cavern. Never done a furry run, sounds kinda gay.
are you telling you are a vampire of black imperial blood?
Molag Bal has Mütiilated you my man.
Vampires are Molag Bal's sloppy seconds
Werewolves are made in Hircine's image
>Hircine is a glorified poacher larping as a god while he squats in the forests and wilds of Kyne
Lol
Lmao
I wish I could make myself Molag Bal, Hircine & Malacath's sloppy seconds
With enai mods, I'd say vampires are the more interesting of the two, but I've always been more of a lycanthrope kinda guy (not a furry)
Played a two-handed Nord supremacist heavy armored warrior that was also a werewolf. Wuuthrad was my weapon of choice, first time I completed the companions quest line and despite it being the worst questline in skyrim barring the mages, it still had some kino moments. Taking wuuthrad to solstheim to reclaim the island was a great feeling. Hail Ysgramor
Now I'm playing as an evil Altmer vampire (who I accidently made very similar to neo cortex), sole survivor of the Aundae after Vvardenfell exploded. The blue blood quest added by the enai vamp mod is pretty cool, and it was funny being in a room where I had previously sucked the blood of everyone present for op abilities. Played through the thieves guild, stalking my prey on the roads at night, my character was more defined by his undead condition than the Nord was.
If only there was a wereboar mod, now that was kino in daggerfall
Honestly what’s so bad about the Companions quest line?
Not saying it’s particularly great but it doesn’t seem particularly standout bad compared to the rest of Skyrim’s stuff
The pace, mostly, and also how they're presented as a morally good faction. DB and the TG ease you in a bit before shit goes down (though they still have their problems). In the companions, you do 1 radiant quest, 1 quest where you discover the circle are all werewolves, another radiant quest and then you become a werewolf and are let loose in whiterun to rampage and eat people. This is never mentioned again. The silver-hand are bad people because they hunt werewolves, werewolves who kill and eat humans. Also the silver-hand are awful antagonists. The only named member you kill in the second main quest of the guild and it's a randomly generated npc. Why is the faction based around honorable one-on-one combat the only one not to have an actual main antagonist?
The companions are still my favorite faction, but is also my least favorite questline, if that makes any sense. I love the characters, the way there is no leader, and it's a lot more flavorful than being another goddamn fighter's guild.
Despite some awful plot holes, the thieves guild is the best questline once you swallow the fact that you aren't really thieves and more like the mafia, which is refreshing to have an actual evil thief faction in the elder scrolls
>pace
I guess I always assumed they just lessened the mechanics of having to do a bunch of radiant quests for the next quests to become available for the Game of the Year addition because people just wanted to get to the next stuff at this point. But if not, fair point
>silver hand
The silver hand sort of are the bad guys from the perspective of the Companions (which if you’re doing the quests, you’re a part of). I don’t recall anyone referring to them as bad who isn’t also a Companion. It’s more of a
>these guys want to kill every werewolf, regardless of alignment
The Companion werewolves appear in control enough and it would seem use the werewolf curse for the general good. You point to your first transformation but based on Aela’s line when you come to after I assume the argument is that you got loose by accident to potentially harm the people of Whiterun. You could argue that that proves the curse is too dangerous and therefore makes the Silver Hand’s case but technically you the player are in full control the whole time and you could just chill out of sight until it goes away without any violence.
But otherwise I agree with the rest. Especially the Thieve’s guild
>personal opinion
Werewolf all the way + its not like Hircine or his afterlife are the worst out of all the daedric princes, its a 50/50 on if you come out alright with him and those are decent odds when dealing with Daedric Princes
>the opinion of the Last Dragoborn, as i roleplay the character
Neither, he gives daedric the princes the middle finger as much as possible and wont accept a curse from them if he can help it
>The companions are still my favorite faction, but is also my least favorite questline, if that makes any sense. I love the characters, the way there is no leader, and it's a lot more flavorful than being another goddamn fighter's guild.
same, thats the reason i always have a house in Whiterun or close to it, even with mods. Honestly mostly to stay close to the faction
Vampires have more potential for better horror, but werewolves are cooler and hotter, and I generally enjoy them more existing in a setting.
Neither.
Both were bad jank
Skyrim literally didn't do anything right lmfao
Upvoted kind sir!
>2016
>Finally build that gaming PC
>Install Skyrim and mod the hell out of it after not having played since 2011 on Xbox 360
>Remember main story being average, sidequests being great, exploration being kino, but above all else Dawnguard being amazing
>See early warning signs I am misremembering things by Whiterun but brush it off
>Start Dawnguard as early as able
>Decide of course I'll be joining Dawnguard and not vampires
>Get Serana, quest tells me to take her to vampires
>Lol no way
>Take her to Dawnguard
>The guy who hates and distrusts the frick out of vampires literally tells me to listen to a vampire
>U wot
>Take her to vampire family and he now has his daughter and an elder scroll
>Dawnguard black guy is stunned I actually did what he told me to do and somehow finds a way to still passively blame me for doing what he said
Yeah, I still have no clue how I was one of the cheerleaders for this game back in the day. I was only in 8th grade when it came out so maybe that was why. Holy shit Bethesda should've gone out of business a long time ago.
You sure made a big effort to make a contrarian post like that. Skyrim is great.
>shit is great because I like it
Cope and seethe contrarian
Gayest green text I’ve read in years
I loved Dawngaurd. You can both kill the vampires and still keep the waifu.
Is vortex a good mod manager for Skyrim?
It's hand-holdy and does all kinds of shit on its own, but generally fine.
>tfw will never be a scary monster twink with a human husbando
earth is so shitpilled
Its absolutely bs how there were no major werewolf interactions or more quests in skyrim. Hell, only the solstheim werewolves and harkon take notice and comment on you being a werewolf.
It's also funny because skyrim is considered the best werewolf game to date.
>It's also funny because skyrim is considered the best werewolf game to date.
This really is a crime. Vampires have all kinds of shit but werewolves barely have any video games. I would love an Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction style game with a werewolf coat of paint
I dont get how nobody has bothered lately. A vtmb style game would do great now days
I guess there’s WtA:Earthblood. But I assume it’s a little different than say Bloodlines from what I gather. Less of an rpg and more of an action game with a set protagonist
Never hear anyone talk about it here so I just assumed it wasn’t that great. It’s on the list to check out eventually for me tho
Its a hack and slash and very average at that too.
Bummer, but I guess I can handle average especially when I’m starved for this kind of stuff like
Pirated it and it was OK
Probably just because I was starved for werewolf games
It's strange because Skyrim should be crawling with werewolves
FrankensteinMonster/Zombie
saiyan.
no mods werewolf
with mods vampire
>living innawoods on a homestead alone
>livestock start disappearing
>you suspect it's werewolves
>confirmed when they start getting more brazen
>you're out of livestock, they're appearing in the moonlight in front of you to frick with you
>too far from civilization to escape
>they start clawing the doors at night to let you know they could get in if they wanted to
>can't go outside anymore
>supplies running low
>sometimes they leave a gift of food so you can keep hiding inside your cabin another night longer
>sometimes they smash a window, again just to frick with you
>sometimes they do nothing, leave nothing, make no noise. Are they gone? You won't chance going outside to check
>you're basically a werewolf clan's pet until they get bored and stop giving you food so you'll make a break for it and get bit
why is this not a game
Sounds like they're flirting with you anon
>tfw no autistic werewolf bf
>autistic werewolf bf
>just tries to rape you because no empathy
no he's very nice actually 🙁
>anon describes the intro to his elaborate werewolf rape fantasy
>in lore: werewolves, werebears, werebears, werecrocodiles, werevultures, werelions, weresharks
>in game: werewolves, werebears (1 game lol) and werebears (not players LOL)
>in lore: volkihar vampires live in frozen lakes and are able to magically phase through the ice to drown their
>in game: lol 20% frost resist, less than ordinary nonmagical Nords have innately
Why is bethesda so unbelievably mediocre?
>weregators
i wani hug one.
>literally immortal
>just can't step into the direct sunlight
vs
>when the moon is out you become a furry
Tough.
>literally immortal
Until you do get killed and go to Molag Balls realm
I don't know what that is, but it sounds gay as frick.
Given that he is the metaphysical ruler over domination and rape, yet it probably will be quite gay.
TES vampires are joke
Frick is TES?
The Elder Scrolls
Those games suck.
tender excessive sex
>hate playing anything but human, or at least a vampire without a moronic Underworld transformation
>forced to play both to get 100% achievements
feels bad man
FRICK FURRIES!
FRICK FANGgayS
OG WEREWOLVES ALL THE WAY
>FRICK FANGgayS
you wanna say that again b***h?
Frick them right in the pussy
To this day I'm mad Earthblood was half-assed in part due to stuff regarding Cyanide.
>stuff regarding Cyanide
QRD?
Some butthole from Nacon caused some financial shenanigans and wanted to pull off a hostile takeover if I remember correctly from an anon that was looking into it.
He didn't succeed, but the damage was done and a chunk of stuff in Earthblood was cut out. Including stuff like getting into a Frenzy and loosing yourself in it having impactful consequences.
Truly a shame.
The game clearly had talent and good ideas behind it. The intro is brutal. But then the game adopts a very undwhelming pace and it becomes just a timekilling game. Although I personally enjoyed the last act quite a lot. I guess the game letting me go rage mode no matter what (even while talking to NPCs) made me get into it more.
Didn't WtA have an entire tribe of feminist werewolves?
I use to love the books as a kid. Had high hopes for the game.
They completely dropped the fricking ball!
First mistake was not giving people the option of creating their own werewolf and choosing their clan.
Werewolf, but mommy.
Even better: Wolfwere mommy - a she-wolf who turns into a human female to disguise herself.
Silver Crossbows
vamps
Could you even make a good game out of the other White Wolf games?
Vampire obviously works
Werewolf could probably work
I remember hearing Mage doesn't even work as its own tabletop property
I will tell ya that an Exalted game wouldn't do justice to the source material.
It would require 10 times the work BG3 had.
for me? it's draculas
For me? It's Draculina's
Sacrosanct made being a vampire pretty entertaining though it's best picked up early since there's a blue blood quest it adds about sucking the blood of important figures in the story, sort of like how cannibalizing major leaders in New Vegas gave you a perk.
Vampires are my favorite but I like to go werechad from time to time
I had more fun with werewolf
Depends on the setting. TeS Were-animals are a bit more insteresting than Molag Aids origins for vampires.
>werewolf
>extremely strong but very boring in what it can do, so it’ll be fun for like an hour max and then just a broken tool that makes the game boring afterwards
>vampire lord
>almost exactly as OP but with a bunch of more interesting spells and such to use, can fly around nuking people and draining their health then violently claw them to death if you run out of magic, or you can frick around by summoning gargoyles, grabbing enemies and choking them like fricking Vader, or using paralysis spells to make any fight a breeze.
Vampire lord by far. Looks cooler, is significantly more fun, it isn’t on some bullshit timer so you can go back and forth as much as you want, you have way more options with what you can do it just btfos werewolf hands down. Especially when you realize you can frick the physics engine by combining the paralysis spell with vampiric grip to make their bodies fly around at mach 10, never gets old
You can mod in your entire spell kit as vampire lord and basically never need to leave the form
werewolf wiener for sure
No demons
No werewolves
No vampires
my wife (aela) likes the dog dick more
Blue Ghouls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkkmm9vqbHQ
>werewolf is a ferocious werebeast of hircine
>a monstrous animal
>gets a form that reflects this
>vampires are sneaky, deceptive, manipulative, and need to hide from normal society and blend in when necessary
>GLOWING YELLOW EYES THAT ANYONE WITHIN 30 FEET WOULD KNOW "FRICKING VAMPIRE!"
>huge monstrous bat animal form
>???
In morrowind vampire clans lived far away from civilization and did well to hide themselves so the whole continent wouldn't purge them, meanwhile the glowing eyes neon sign vampires in skyrim live in a giant castle right next to solitude and nobody really notices or cares, and they run around in giant hircine werebat form. Skyrim is fun but holy frick is it dumb as shit.
Glowing eyes was a dawn guard addition which was basically made for fun after one of h the devs created the vampire lord form. The writing in it is probably the worst I’ve seen in any ES game. They obviously didn’t put their best foot forward.
werewolves are so fricking hot bros...
isn't that the art of the guy who did the trans rights tshirt wolf guy?
>the scene where Dracula is delivering a monologue to his three vampire b***hes while walking upside down on the ceiling
Kino
I could never decide which of them was the hottest
>Van Helsing
>Blade
The dynamic duo of that early 2000s edgekino.
Imagine having a werewolf bf
Gaaaaaaaay.gif
That's not a werewolf but he would probably be a better bf than one
Yeah, me
Purge both.
>Vampire
>One of the best RPGs ever made, can play as many different clans, has memorable characters.
>Werewolf
>Literal who hack and slash, play as exactly ONE character, and most people who know about this game can't even name said character.
Vampire all the way
Will being a vampire make me handsome?
you'll eventually have enough money for plastic surgery
I have money now for plastic surgery but I'm afraid I'll get nerve damage and shit so I end up staying ugly.
Just keeping waiting bro
I had more fun as a werewolf but was disappointed when the other companions who shared Hircine's gift wouldn't join in the rampage. I didn't sense any real consequences in accepting waifur blood from Aela or a Volkihar Clan hicky from Serana, especially in the case of becoming a vampire since Isran just tells you to gtfo and schedule an appointment with Falion at midnight.
Hunter of Both
Do Bats count as vampires?
What range of diseases can you get from sexing a bat?
A lot if you're planning to frick a wild bat which is not the case here.
I would honestly rather frick a bat monster than some sociopathic walking corpse.
square cube law
these wings are useless
They're not useless, they're great for cuddling.
Is there a version without the ugly human there
they're fins not wings
I am horny and lonely
Yes. I, too, post on Ganker(nel)
>hunt with Hircine forever
>be raped by Molag Bal forever
It's pretty obvious between these two.
bat sexo
Neither, why the frick would the dragonborn doom himself with some moronic curse that'll banish him to coldharbour or the hunting grounds?
Cosmic forces, Mother Gaia, please conjure a Werewolf the Apocalypse game into existence, please!!
An ACTUAL RPG!!
You have no idea how badly I want an oWoD game that incorporates Vampires, Werewolves, Mages, and Hunters into one game/RPG.
Vampire can use vampiric grip to throw guys off cliffs so I'd go with that
also I like the mods that let you feed during combat like skyrim's "better vampires" or oblivion's "blood is everything"
this is an blue board anon no bondage talk here plz
>Werebears are a common occurrence among the werebeasts of Skyrim.
>Werebears even appear in the game.
>Can't play as them without mods.
That was some bull shit.
I like it when werewolves have human dicks and not dog dicks
vampire is vastly superior and its not even a choice
It would be if they didn't look like dollar store count dracula Halloween costumes in Skyrim. With little capes and skull clasps in a spooky gothic castle. Sleeping in literal coffins for beds every night.
Literally BLEH I vant to suck your blood bleh-he-heh- Scooby Doo shit what the frick was Todd smoking. I'm surprised you didn't kill them by wearing a garlic clove necklace
I find Werewolf fun for the sheer brutality and scary value, but the magic that vampires can tap into is powerful levels of coolness and much more fun potential.
Something that really bothers me about werewolves is how their connection to nature (which is cool btw) is preconceived to make them live like savages (as in it's usually portrayed). Elves for example are really nature-friendly guys, but they are usually laid out as powerful magicians with cool "cities". Why can't werewolves have this? Why do they have to live like stinky murder hobos with no place to call home except some ever changing green dark forest? Fricking hell, I'm sick and tired of it.
Because it's a curse you moron. It's not supposed to be nice. You painfully, excruciatingly transform into a bloodthirsty killing machine and horribly murder and cannibalize anyone near to you.
No.
Yes. b***h
Lich
that one area in VTM:B where the werewolves frick your shit up was cool so I vote werewolf
But you squeeze that werewolf to death like a tube of toothpaste
nothing like a good little nap after a tight squeeze 🙂
Neither are a debilitating supernatural plague equal to hell for the afflicted so it's dogshit.
Frick this bullshit of Werewolves and Vampires being a superpower. It's total nonsense. These are demonic creatures that ruin generations of people not some power fantasy. THEY ARE CREATURES OF THE NIGHT FOR KILLING
Holy frick I hate this shit so much. It's easily the worst thing to ever happen to entertainment.
they didn't even make them powerful. you could be 50x stronger as a virgin
I think they're both useless on skyrim
Aela puts out and Serana doesn't unless you're called Molag Bal, so Werewolf.
Vampire lets you be powerful and in charge of your faculties. Sure werewolves are strong and smart but one moment you'll black out driving to the store and the next you're naked on your neighbors lawn after taking a massive dog shit on it
Say no to SexuallyTransmittedDaedricCurses
>werewolves and vampires are present
>they are enemies
>also vampires are always portrayed as way stronger and cooler
I liked the Underworld approach were werewolves will kick the absolute shit out of vampires until a vampire elder shows up and starts snapping their necks with one hand
majority of vampires job to werewolves. Only elders or those who drank Corvinus blood are stronger.
Big fat juicy wolf penis
In Skyrim? Neither, because either is shit and weak as frick. Also,
>being Hircine's b***h
>being Molag Bal's cumdump
Nope. Never ever ever.
Isn't the vampirism from the shitter vamps you find in caves in vanilla Skyrim different from the Molag Bal vampirism Serana has?
Technically yes. However, you have to be a female and undergo a special ritual with a LOT of sacrifices to get the stuff Serana and her mom have. Harkon got blood directly from Molag Bal, so he skipped on getting his ass fricked by sacrificing a LOT of people (including wife and daughter).
Do the non Vampire Lords still get assfricked by Bal in the afterlife?
Why would he care about vampires? They are undead, they already can enter and leave the "afterlife" on their own or at the very least the underworld while "living". When they die they just vanish or become something else entirely like Wraiths.
question
is their any versions of vampires who can day walk?
without needing to feed?
That actually sounds like things normal non-vampire people do I think
Twilight
The really powerful ones that just don't give a frick or the smart ones that can make daylight walking potions albeit temporarily.
that's a relatively late addition really. dracula does in the book, and carmilla doesn't like being in the sun but it doesn't seem harm her or anything. sunlight killing vampires was i think created for the movie nosferatu to give it a big climax
>that's a relatively late addition
the dracula in the original book never had any weaknesses due to the sun you gay
Greymane.
i like sunlight and garlic more than i like not getting called a furry so there's really only one option.
question
in some vampire lore
can some vampires take control of the people they bite?
and use them as a army ?
Yes. They are called thralls. Mostly used as sex slaves. Vampires are such sex pests
Bros I really like werewolves but I am not a furry stop calling me a furry I want to rip and tear if I was a sexual deviant I would like vampires ok
I'm going to be sexually attracted to your fantasy self and you can't stop me
Vampire always
Guys there's a bat outside that's been circling my house for the past 2 hours. What do I do?
where do you live where you have bats?
Houston, you see a few fly out during the night if you got a good eye
Let it in. There's nothing to worry about, I'm probably just a fruit bat looking for some food
Hircine has cool voice so i pick werewolf.
Her-sine or hear-seen?
Her-seen
prostitute-kyne
Werewolf is pretty fun in ESO
KILL ALL VAMPIRES, ROUNDHOUSE KICK A VAMPIRE, BREAK A VAMPIRES FINGERS WITH A HAMMER, BOIL VAMPIRES IN GARLIC ACID, CHAIN VAMPIRES TO A STAKE WITH NO SHADE, KICK VAMPIRES INTO RUNNING WATER, STAKE A VAMPIRE WITH HOLY FIRE
>CHAIN VAMPIRES TO A STAKE
it's a cross, moron
and you're not supposed to use chains, you use nails
DO THAT AS WELL
NO MERCY TO THE SONS OF CAIN
I want a werewolf gf so badly
In Skyrim?
>werewolf with hircine ring
other fictional shit?
>Witcher 3 higher vampire definitely
Being a vampire in oblivion was better because it was just a free stat boost and you just have to wait and slurp a hobo every now and then. It was dumb in Skyrim, nothing>wolf>vamp
>deranged furry vs edge lord cringe
I pick whatever faction exterminates both
Ah the Vigilant of Stendarr. The one faction I make a point to terrify before I maul and feed on them
Werewolf boyfriend!!!
Same energy
kinda hot ngl
Vampire
>like werewolves and other beastmen races because they're hulking vicious creatures
>have no sexual thoughts towards them
>get lumped in with the furries because "wolves are my animalkin tehee :3"
the only respite i have are the warhammer fantasy lizardmen because half of them are ugly frogs and furries haven't started drawing themselves as the other half
Werewolf was better imo because you didn’t have to deal with the sun or feeding off humans and shit. Plus going on a rampage felt more satisfying than the vampire lord form. And using the werewolfs roar like a dragonshout was badass and is the very definition of soul. Although I wish you could’ve switched back and forth between forms like the vampire.
the wings look fricking stupid... the vampire in general looks stupid. they are supposed to be beautiful creatures dude looks half gollum
They took the Underworld/Van Helsing pill
whats more historically/mythologically accurate?
>Vampires were usually reported as bloated in appearance, and ruddy, purplish, or dark in colour
>its teeth, hair, and nails may have grown somewhat, though in general fangs were not a feature
Neither, honestly. The "suave" vampire didn't come along until later, but literal batlike humans were more of an asian thing (manananggal)
i guess the whole dracula stuff was responsible for the handsome vamps
no, interview with a vampire was, old movie dracula was just a noble eastern european guy
>vampiric drain sucks ass
>only buff is from the chalice, only lasts for 24h and is marginal
>can't even use auriels bow to block the sun consistently w/o fear of random vamp attacks killing npcs
Werebat vampire
The furgay in me wanted to like it but the autist in me said it looks too cartoony for Skyrim