I agree, in fact the graphics are a step backwards from the original 2007 game. Of course, the second part had a varied approach to the gameplay and in Brotherhood the graphics were pulled up normally, in terms of atmosphere the second part loses to the first one because of the graphics.
>AC2 >carried by writing
I am still supremely embarrassed by AC2's lenghty ending sequence where the assassins kill all of Borgia's guards but he runs away because Ezio fell over, then there's a couple DLCs where some random hobo picks up the apple and takes over Firenze and Ezio gives a really lame good guy speech, and then there's a fricking jumpcut to Ezio being on top of a wall in vatican on a fricking horse like how did the horse even get up there? And you fistfight the pope and let him live which was so insane that Brotherhood had to immediatly start with the borgias destroying everything and almost killing Ezio.
It was a lost cause after Brotherhood. The rooftop runner pandering, the nerfed moves because people kept complaining but paradoxically constant pistol buffs, the contested kills that always favored the opponent, the maps that started being nothing but open spaces with crevice so hiding was borderline impossible (3's frozen ship was so bad), etc.
Rev's multiplayer was when I knew it wasn't worth trying and then I gave 3 a try and it was nothing but people every single match on both sides running at high profile shooting each other and stabbing each other for 100 points. I think in 30 hours of 3 I never saw a single person use poison whereas in the same timeframe I died to at least instances of it in Brotherhood.
Black Flag, Unity, and maybe Origins. Rev is fine if you don't mind how they have Constantinople set up. I still think the ending of Rev is my favorite out of all the games just for the entire "Sit a moment and rest" and "No books...no wisdom...just you, fratello mio".
what would you say are your thoughts on Syndicate, Odyssey, and Valhalla? Been thinking of trying them but they all look like they might not be a good time.
Syndicate is a mess but London itself is fine. If you're gonna play it play for Evie and some of the Juno stuff. Jacob is insufferable and horrible.
Odyssey is fine. It's one of the worst games in the series for me personally and I overall dislike it for a multitude of reasons but a lot of people enjoy it and if you just want a generic Diablo loot RPG it's fine. It's basically the fantasy game of the series but it does have an insane amount of repetition and bloat that I found even worse than Valhalla in most respects.
Valhalla is the definition of feature bloat, grind, and bad writing. It improves on a lot of stuff from Odyssey but then does so many other things worse. If you just want to sneak around and explore pretty areas it's fine, if you want to get invested in a story or characters stay far far away. It's also the only game in the nu-trilogy that lets you insta kill with assassinations from the get go and is balanced around it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You know, playing through the Ezio games I expected the smarmy nerd to turn out to be a double agent for the templars or something because the modern day segments had literally nothing going on for them, but it never happened.
With odyssey and valhalla start with origins if you haven't played. I think its the most balanced of the 3, odyssey and Valhalla have their pros and cons. Valhalla especially is the without a doubt the most bloated fricking game I've ever played outside of something like warframe. I'm normally fine with games being hueg but Valhalla is next level.
Also on PC you can use cheat engine to get the crazy overpriced store items in all 3.
1 year ago
Moose
>Also on PC you can use cheat engine to get the crazy overpriced store items in all 3.
Assuming we're not talking about cosmetics:
The only one even worth it is Hercules' Gladius in Origins and that's just because it's 2 damage better than the best weapon in the game with the same effect.
None of Odyssey's Helix Store stuff is really worth it as far as I saw since Legendary armor is worse than Epic armor and the engravings that come with it are meh compared to the main game stuff unless you want to run a fire build after it got heavily nerfed for some reason. The best Legendary engravings are from base game and DLC.
Valhalla Helix Store items are all garbage. They're all situational for the weapons and the armor effects are so bad. You can get the best armor set from the River Raids, and if you don't want to grind that the Thegn Armor and Brigandine Armor sets both have really good effects for normal game sets that you get naturally. The epilogue armor is also the best in the game and is given to you for free. It's beyond broken.
1 year ago
Anonymous
and are Origins/Odyssey/Valhalla's DLCs worth?
1 year ago
Moose
Hidden Ones is actual ending of the game since the base game ends sort of unsatisfyingly. It's a bit short though.
Curse of the Pharaohs is one of the best DLCs in the series next to Jack the Ripper.
Legacy of the First Blade is only good for act 3. Act 1 has some weird moral message that falls on deaf ears since it makes no sense and the Eagle Bearer hasn't cared up until that point and act 2 is filler.
Fate of Atlantis is great for act 1, act 2 sucks complete ass and I hate the map so much, act 3 is great and has some AC lore thrown in there.
Wrath of the Druids is what the main story missions should have been like and had characters I cared about for once in the entire game. Ireland is okay as a map. Also nets you the best weapon in the entire game if you kill all the druids and lets you fight a Dark Souls-esque boss.
Siege of Paris felt like a mix of classic AC and nu AC, it was pretty great but Charles III and the story surrounding him as a person specifically wasn't that interesting to me. Paris itself is great but the optional rebel missions are grindy and suck.
Haven't bought Ragnarok yet and am waiting for it to get dirt cheap but the people who bought it said it was short and disappointing.
1 year ago
Anonymous
thanks, I think I'll buy all 3 and play them over the course of however long since I hear they can all be a bit long.
1 year ago
Anonymous
But you can dress up as lord shaxx and get a gjallarhorn sword that shoots rockets
>Syndicate.
Remember how Unity had unique quests only and story attached to all quests, including the co-op ones that came with little video intros?
What if we remove all of that and return to copy pasting generic activities like "free the child workers" or "clear this area of baddies"?
Remember how combat in Unity had weight to it? Let's replace it with an arcade combat system that's sped up to 1.25 for no reason and introduce a skillset that's basically a difficulty slider.
Remember how Paris was chock full of people and events? What if removed all of that and make London empty as frick.
>Odyssey
25hrs worth of content stretched over 100hrs.
However, it ignores Assassin's Creed shit and if you just want a mythological adventure game in ancient Greece, you will get something out of it.
Despite the copy pasted content. Sailing and upgrading your ship is legit fun.
>Valhalla
Same as above, except that it doesn't even work as an immersion ride, because they fricked over the Viking setting to such a degree it's not funny anymore.
It's also a bastard child between non-AC AC games like Origins and Odyssey, and old AC games, making it the most unfocused game in the trilogy.
To make matters worse, it feels as if they just put Origins and Odyssey through an AI to make the world. Nothing feels handcrafted, everything feels algorithmic.
Also, between the three games starting from Origin, they gradually reduced resources needed for upgrades. While luxury resources like pelts were something to hunt down in Origins, in Odyssey they're just to sell, and Valhalla has only 3 materials for everything in the game.
>that revelations spoiler
honestly the best moment in the franchise
hookblade offers some of the most fluid parkour too, no idea why the guys itt and the general population hate the game but it belongs somewhere on the top
Still amazing how out of like 15 games spanning over a decade, this series managed to produce ONE good game (II) with ONE glorified Expansion Pack (Brotherhood).
And also a half-decent pirate simulator.
R U N
Assassin's Creed unironically used to have soul.
In a hindsight the game is heavily carried by it's writing and Jesper Kyd. Everything else is greyish a slog.
I agree, in fact the graphics are a step backwards from the original 2007 game. Of course, the second part had a varied approach to the gameplay and in Brotherhood the graphics were pulled up normally, in terms of atmosphere the second part loses to the first one because of the graphics.
>AC2
>carried by writing
I am still supremely embarrassed by AC2's lenghty ending sequence where the assassins kill all of Borgia's guards but he runs away because Ezio fell over, then there's a couple DLCs where some random hobo picks up the apple and takes over Firenze and Ezio gives a really lame good guy speech, and then there's a fricking jumpcut to Ezio being on top of a wall in vatican on a fricking horse like how did the horse even get up there? And you fistfight the pope and let him live which was so insane that Brotherhood had to immediatly start with the borgias destroying everything and almost killing Ezio.
I save this tune for special occasions
It is a good life we lead, brother.
Assassin's Creed Revelation is still probably one of the coolest vidya trailers ever made
Seeing it during the E3 presentation was amazing.
>That moment when Ezio sees Altair's ghost for the first time.
shame about the game itself
Too bad the game didn’t live up to the hype.
axing the multiplayer will never not make me mad
It was a lost cause after Brotherhood. The rooftop runner pandering, the nerfed moves because people kept complaining but paradoxically constant pistol buffs, the contested kills that always favored the opponent, the maps that started being nothing but open spaces with crevice so hiding was borderline impossible (3's frozen ship was so bad), etc.
Rev's multiplayer was when I knew it wasn't worth trying and then I gave 3 a try and it was nothing but people every single match on both sides running at high profile shooting each other and stabbing each other for 100 points. I think in 30 hours of 3 I never saw a single person use poison whereas in the same timeframe I died to at least instances of it in Brotherhood.
they should have removed the progression. It just caused people to run around in circle spamming smoke bomb so they could "prestige"
Ah, Moose, the resident autist. Which AC games would you say are absolutely worth playing aside from AC1, AC2 and Brotherhood?
Black Flag, Unity, and maybe Origins. Rev is fine if you don't mind how they have Constantinople set up. I still think the ending of Rev is my favorite out of all the games just for the entire "Sit a moment and rest" and "No books...no wisdom...just you, fratello mio".
what would you say are your thoughts on Syndicate, Odyssey, and Valhalla? Been thinking of trying them but they all look like they might not be a good time.
Syndicate is a mess but London itself is fine. If you're gonna play it play for Evie and some of the Juno stuff. Jacob is insufferable and horrible.
Odyssey is fine. It's one of the worst games in the series for me personally and I overall dislike it for a multitude of reasons but a lot of people enjoy it and if you just want a generic Diablo loot RPG it's fine. It's basically the fantasy game of the series but it does have an insane amount of repetition and bloat that I found even worse than Valhalla in most respects.
Valhalla is the definition of feature bloat, grind, and bad writing. It improves on a lot of stuff from Odyssey but then does so many other things worse. If you just want to sneak around and explore pretty areas it's fine, if you want to get invested in a story or characters stay far far away. It's also the only game in the nu-trilogy that lets you insta kill with assassinations from the get go and is balanced around it.
You know, playing through the Ezio games I expected the smarmy nerd to turn out to be a double agent for the templars or something because the modern day segments had literally nothing going on for them, but it never happened.
With odyssey and valhalla start with origins if you haven't played. I think its the most balanced of the 3, odyssey and Valhalla have their pros and cons. Valhalla especially is the without a doubt the most bloated fricking game I've ever played outside of something like warframe. I'm normally fine with games being hueg but Valhalla is next level.
Also on PC you can use cheat engine to get the crazy overpriced store items in all 3.
>Also on PC you can use cheat engine to get the crazy overpriced store items in all 3.
Assuming we're not talking about cosmetics:
The only one even worth it is Hercules' Gladius in Origins and that's just because it's 2 damage better than the best weapon in the game with the same effect.
None of Odyssey's Helix Store stuff is really worth it as far as I saw since Legendary armor is worse than Epic armor and the engravings that come with it are meh compared to the main game stuff unless you want to run a fire build after it got heavily nerfed for some reason. The best Legendary engravings are from base game and DLC.
Valhalla Helix Store items are all garbage. They're all situational for the weapons and the armor effects are so bad. You can get the best armor set from the River Raids, and if you don't want to grind that the Thegn Armor and Brigandine Armor sets both have really good effects for normal game sets that you get naturally. The epilogue armor is also the best in the game and is given to you for free. It's beyond broken.
and are Origins/Odyssey/Valhalla's DLCs worth?
Hidden Ones is actual ending of the game since the base game ends sort of unsatisfyingly. It's a bit short though.
Curse of the Pharaohs is one of the best DLCs in the series next to Jack the Ripper.
Legacy of the First Blade is only good for act 3. Act 1 has some weird moral message that falls on deaf ears since it makes no sense and the Eagle Bearer hasn't cared up until that point and act 2 is filler.
Fate of Atlantis is great for act 1, act 2 sucks complete ass and I hate the map so much, act 3 is great and has some AC lore thrown in there.
Wrath of the Druids is what the main story missions should have been like and had characters I cared about for once in the entire game. Ireland is okay as a map. Also nets you the best weapon in the entire game if you kill all the druids and lets you fight a Dark Souls-esque boss.
Siege of Paris felt like a mix of classic AC and nu AC, it was pretty great but Charles III and the story surrounding him as a person specifically wasn't that interesting to me. Paris itself is great but the optional rebel missions are grindy and suck.
Haven't bought Ragnarok yet and am waiting for it to get dirt cheap but the people who bought it said it was short and disappointing.
thanks, I think I'll buy all 3 and play them over the course of however long since I hear they can all be a bit long.
But you can dress up as lord shaxx and get a gjallarhorn sword that shoots rockets
Shit up moose
>Syndicate, Odyssey, and Valhalla?
>Syndicate.
Remember how Unity had unique quests only and story attached to all quests, including the co-op ones that came with little video intros?
What if we remove all of that and return to copy pasting generic activities like "free the child workers" or "clear this area of baddies"?
Remember how combat in Unity had weight to it? Let's replace it with an arcade combat system that's sped up to 1.25 for no reason and introduce a skillset that's basically a difficulty slider.
Remember how Paris was chock full of people and events? What if removed all of that and make London empty as frick.
>Odyssey
25hrs worth of content stretched over 100hrs.
However, it ignores Assassin's Creed shit and if you just want a mythological adventure game in ancient Greece, you will get something out of it.
Despite the copy pasted content. Sailing and upgrading your ship is legit fun.
>Valhalla
Same as above, except that it doesn't even work as an immersion ride, because they fricked over the Viking setting to such a degree it's not funny anymore.
It's also a bastard child between non-AC AC games like Origins and Odyssey, and old AC games, making it the most unfocused game in the trilogy.
To make matters worse, it feels as if they just put Origins and Odyssey through an AI to make the world. Nothing feels handcrafted, everything feels algorithmic.
Also, between the three games starting from Origin, they gradually reduced resources needed for upgrades. While luxury resources like pelts were something to hunt down in Origins, in Odyssey they're just to sell, and Valhalla has only 3 materials for everything in the game.
>if you don't mind how they have Constantinople set up
I liked Constantinople... at least it wasn't vast empty fields of nothing like Rome.
>that revelations spoiler
honestly the best moment in the franchise
hookblade offers some of the most fluid parkour too, no idea why the guys itt and the general population hate the game but it belongs somewhere on the top
It's called Venezia in every normal language.
AC died with Ezio.
>that feeling of wonder when you saw the truth cutscene
>imagining what asscreed would be like in the sequels
absolutely squandered potential
It's crazy how after 3 they just have no fricking idea what to do. It's been a decade and it still feels like they're clueless.
>Veniezzo.... Il hommo
>homo
Heh
Actually living in venice must suck
Still amazing how out of like 15 games spanning over a decade, this series managed to produce ONE good game (II) with ONE glorified Expansion Pack (Brotherhood).
And also a half-decent pirate simulator.
I miss Jesper Kyd so much bros it's unreal.