Practically confirmed at this point, and likely set between the 2nd and 3rd Spidey game. What are some must have mechanics, gameplay features, and fanservice to make for a good Venom game?
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If I can't consume children like in ultimate spider-man it's just straight up homosexual shit that shouldn't be made.
What about just chomping down on criminal skulls to regain health?
>only killing criminals
Why do homosexuals these days not understand the appeal of being Venom?
Which is?
Killing everyone and generally being legitimately evil while also defeating something even more evil because it's in your way and threatening you. Venom is pure 1990's edgelord fantasy but these days everyone wants to make him a do-gooder "anti-hero" who only kills bad guys and is basically just Spider-Man with slightly different animations for finishing off enemies.
Isn't Venom's entire shtick after his very initial run as a villain that he's the "lethal protector?" A kind of deluded horror movie monster who horribly maims or kills bad guys while earnestly trying to protect innocents?
I don't know exactly when he got changed to that, but you're right and it's still lame. The whole point of getting to play as Venom is that you can be totally unhinged, not just kill the bad guys differently.
He's really never been a straight up villain, he just hated Spidey. Once he thought Pete was dead, he turned around to be a anti-hero pretty fast.
Fine, then let me play as Carnage.
Dude, Venom hasn’t been a villain in decades. He kills criminals at worst
They need to be black children for representation
Minimal newer comic stuff, just stick to lethal protector.
Well he already has wings in the game. Wouldn't that be like his glide mechanic to mirror the Spider-Men?
I despise Cates and his influence
Knull is pretty much soft confirmed
It’s just a visual thing
venom stopped being good when carnage was brought back after debut
momentum based swinging
combat that isn't a bamham reskin
i.e. things it won't have
We already have Cletus in this universe, so it feels like a given that we'd get a Venom game with him as the main antagonist. If they do a design mixed/between his Spider-Man Unlimited cartoon and the skeletal knull comic variant, I'd be content. Question is, what would Cletus do to terrorize/threaten New York? We kinda already did the Web of Shadows thing.
Also Cardiac should totally be a intro villain too. Guy is not only underutilized, but has a gimmick that can hurt Venom too
Someone give me a quick run down on Carnage. Is he in Spiderman 2? I've only ever watched the movies and some of the games but I've seen images of Carnage and I always thought he looked incredibly unnerving.
I still remember my uncle telling me he was a version of Spiderman that died and came back from hell but he's actually just another alien parasite like Venom, right? What's his deal?
Symbiotes split to make more, it split from venom and bonded with a serial killer cletus. The thing that sets it apart from venom is he tends to shift his limbs into bladed weapons more than venom and no WE stuff, they are a single entity.
In the game cletus runs a cult and gets a symbiote piece so they are setting him up for 3 ir a venom game.
>Is he in Spiderman 2?
Cletus Kassidy is, he hasn't gotten his symbiote. In game he leads some kind of weird fire cult.
Basic comic rundown/origin is that Cletus is a serial killer who received his own red symbiote, born from Venom's. He's a psycho that can morph is body into all sorts of nasty bladed weapons. The only real difference between Carnage and most symbiote users is that he's perfectly bonded to his. So while Eddie/Venom refer to themselves as "We" there's only "I" with Carnage. He's basically the worst kind of person to get these kind of monster powers
I heard Cletus is played by Cameron Monaghan, is that right? They must have huge plans for him in the next game if so.
The Symbiotes of the Marivel universe are entities that bond to and/or absorb targets to use them for protection and/or nourishment.
The protection is generally to keep them incognito and to shield them from things they are hurt by, like loud sounds, fire, and angry mobs.
The nourishment part comes from the symbiotic factor. If it's a good bond, they bond heavily and work in tandem with their host, and the host eats enough for two. If it's a bad bond, they consume the host's body and/or mind.
This leaves behind a corpse, or a walking mindless drone that the Symbiote uses like a meat puppet until it rots.
When a Symbiote wants to give "birth," it splits off into other Symbiotes with similar personalities, powers, and needs. It's not a perfect 1:1 copy, though, and some get worse or better.
Carnage is the "child" of Venom. Vicious and hungry, he ended up bound to a serial-killer named Cletus.
Cletus went from a crazy murderer to a crazy murder with superpowers, but Carnage is in much more control that Cletus.
While that would normally leave a dead husks, Cletus loves being along for the ride, making it a stable pairing.
Everything worked out great, as long as you're Cletus or Carnage. It worked out terribly for everyone else.
Hopefully they take inspiration from Prototype.
>must have mechanics
gender neutral pronouns
>gameplay features
ability to bash the fash
>fanservice
frequent lgbt parades in the streets
The frick is wrong with you?
>Eddie goes reporting on The Flame for the Bugle
>comes into contact with Symbiote while sneaking through his lair or some shit
>Symbiote has some weird hive mind memory, so Venom gets reborn onto Eddie
>Venom and Carnage fight
venom will have they/them pronouns and you VVILL LIKE IT
Is Eddie Brock in 2?i dont wanna play as venom if his gay lover Eddie ain't in it
Someone should use that app to edit the last panel to a smile
No, just harry-venom.
>harry-venom
Dropped. I thought Harry-venom plotline was meant to resolve in 2? (I haven't played it)
Eddie is confirmed for this universe to exist, but has yet to appear. He was one of the people to sign Peter's farewell card from The Daily Bugle
Wah Wah. I'm still having fun with Spidey 2 as we speak. Doesn't mean we can't talk about what's on horizon
And what happens when that game comes out? Talk about the next one? You already know what'll happen in it.
>You already know what'll happen in it.
Not really. I have no way of knowing how Green Goblin will turn out, how Cindy will get powers, or how Otto will factor in
It has. If anything it's more of an excuse to use Eddie for this spin off
I will not play the game until we get Eddie pregnancy sidequest. It's only fair
I would like to see more black people, more Last of Us stealth sections, and more graffiti painting in my Venom game
>games in development for 5+ years are now part of the "extended teaser for the next thing" trend of comic book movies and bad "prestige" tv shows
>people no longer consume and enjoy media in itself, but exist in perpetual hype for the next thing regardless of the quality of what is in front of them
>people are having conversations about conversations about reactions to leaks of advertisements
>all for comic book characters and plot points that are older than they are, being rehashed once more
Eternal copyright and FOMO are the new status quo.
I don't necessarily even hate hype. But it's the fact these comic book games and movies come out and there's very little to talk about with them in themselves because they are, as much people don't want to admit it, just okay at the very best and more often than not outright bad. I was excited to have a new Spidey game with the last one, but I played it and it was a 6/10 at most.
>MJ/Miles sections
>puzzle section that were so boring you could skip them
>2deep4u story is generic "double life" shit that has been done over and over for decades that tries and fails to make Mr Negative an interesting villain
>realises this was dumb, crams the Sinister 6 in, doesn't have the common courtesy to have 6 boss fights
>swinging looks nice but is stripped down and simplified
>combat is literally just BatHam, but with badly balanced special attacks that either do frick all or are a "I win" button
>most of the side missions are dull
>music is generic "epic" garbage, easily the most boring of anything from other Spidey things
>gets by almost entirely on graphics and visual spectacle/cutscenes, which ages like milk
>no one talks about all of this because OOOOOH VENOM MIGHT BE IN THE NEXT ONE
I was gonna say Halo 2 but that game just kind raised the stakes and depth of the games while it just intended to finish it all up in the next one. Even if Halo 3 had a cliffhanger ending it was obviously just to leave the door open in case they wanted to keep using master chief. There was no setup for what was actually supposed to come
It's over.
Yup, that's just how everything is these days. If you avoid spoilers and wait for something (be it TV, movies, or games) to come out to experience it everyone will already be done talking about it on day 1 because they spent months already talking it to death before it ever even released. Actually watching the movie/episode or playing the game is purely performative; everyone does it to see everything play out exactly the way they were told it would play out and then they immediately talk about the next thing and the cycle repeats.
I've literally had people complain about me wanting to discuss the ending to a game like 2 days after it came out because everyone already knew the ending before the game released and were tired of talking about it.
That’s just how sony fans operate.
It's devilishly genius isn't it? Don't make people get hyped for a thing, make them get hyped for the hype of a thing
Are they seriously trying to sell toys of this garbage?
I think an important question to ask is how should civilians react to Venom, and how should his movement differ from the spiders. What I want to see is Venom saving people from muggings/assaults, with the hilarity of the victims cowering in fear of their savior
They should run away in fear even after he helps them. One of comic runs of Venom is literally about both Eddie and symbiote coming to terms and realizing that no matter how much they're gonna help normal people will be afraid of Venom even if they try to be "good guys" not just anti heroes.
I wonder if the scream model will get used for porn.
I wouldn't say "no" but I also wouldn't search it out.
No Eddie Brock no buy
The real question is will I be able to play Eddie instead of pussyfooting around the real venom?
Will they make the symbiote bond with a Black person and have it go around NYC lecturing people about equity and black futurism?
Agent Venom seems like a no-go because Harry basically had his costume in SM2 but I'd love to see him, Flash Venom is one of my favorite comic characters.
>female
nah
This is what gay presentation should've been.
Venom from the PS1 Spider-man game and Fox Kids cartoon was my first gay crush before I even knew what sex was. I don't even like actual real life guys but make something 8ft+ tall, impossibly muscular, any predatory animal traits like fangs or claws, and then a huge shapely ass (even if it's something with a tail) and I just can't get enough of it.
>Venom from the PS1 Spider-man game and Fox Kids cartoon was my first gay crush
Same. The 90s and early 2000s were jam packed with so many half naked muscular dudes. Gargoyles also did a huge number on me.
No thanks.
Based.
As you can see my AI generation skills have grown with time
Pretty good. Getting Venom art without having to rely on artists is great.
Give Agent Venom
Harry already wasted that.
Does he do any actual unique shit with the suit like act as the Punisher with the symbiote or is this another "Hey you fricking nerds recognize this shit?"
Its exactly what you think it is
WTF why would you waste this cool design like this, not to mention all the gameplay potential???
Based
I'm so fricking mad
but how? the venom symbiote is fricking dead.
It’s alien goo that replicates. Figure it out
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Easier than you think
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All I want is Eddie Brock
>practically confirmed
Didn't they kill the symbiote though?
>MCU flash is a punjabi
>game verse agent venom suit is wasted on harry
Flashbros I don’t feel so good…
>when all I want is to see the relationship between symbiote and host explored on a level that's deeper than just "Wow, this suit sure is great", but also don't want it to devolve to gay-shit either
I just want understanding, a bromance of sorts at most, but even that might be too much. I want Venom to be utterly alien and I want that reflected in how the relationship between it and the host.
Basically, I want this sort of thing - what Kaminski wrote.
Also, frick the Venom movies, they're utter shit and Tom Hardy doesn't look or act like Eddie Brock at all.
Maybe a poilce heat mechanic that requires a bit of stealth. Staying out if sight or using the Symbiote's ability to shape shift to be invisible or walk around in civilian clothes.
Carnage and the Carnage Family are obvious so for the set pieces boss fights I want a fight with Juggernaut or the Hulk if they're not in Wolverine, a fight with Ghost Rider, a fight with the Fantastic Four
There already was a perfect Venom game. Just do this again.
thats what I thought when i clicked on this thread
People say that this was originally meant to be a Venom game, but got repurposed to an original IP once Activision failed to get permission for making a Venom game.
Thats not true at all. Prototype always was meant to be original IP exactly because Radical was licensed games factory so they wanted to make their own IP finally and were working on it under table while making licensed projects. Game was in conceptual stage as early as late 2003 according to Holmes who was Lead Designer on it so even before they released Hulk UD.
Thanks for clearing that up for me then, anon.
No problem. Prototypes dev cycle was very interesting and game changed art director 3 times and as I said was in conceptual stage for years.
Game changed tonally a lot after Vivendi merger with Activision went through and they made them to make game more dark and redesign Mercer because he "looked too much like Altair from AC" at that time and power wise game also was scalled down and more grounded in comparison to what we got in retail. This is gameplay from build that according to Holmes already had changes imposed by Activision but not all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOiRqxxNvQc&t=127s
I would love to see Venom game designed by same people ofcourse.
Venom and the symbiote got butchered so fricking hard in this game I don’t want to see them again.
Carnage and Green Goblin on the other hand …….
Why is the Symbiote completely resistant to fire? It's not even an oversight, they have the entire steel mill factory place specifically to show that fire doesn't hurt it like sound does, Harry even specifically says stuff like "I think this suit is fire proof".
I think that’s a recent retcon. Sound and electricity still work
Kind of dumb since the electricity weakness is due to the heat from it like fire.
It think the logic behind the electricity is fricking up their nervous system and hive mind
It just means they raided the evidence lockers too. Plus I think Vulture can't be removed from his suit anymore. The oxygen mask isn't just for altitude, but life support for the old bird
fire powers are to comum/easy to produce, it was to much of a weakness and got retconed, something similar happened with the martian from dc.
>another spider man game on the same map
Cardiac for Venom game opening bad guy
Carnage is the best example of "Yeah, we should REALLY kill this bad guy". Great excuse to give Venom in this universe the title of "Lethal Protector". It's a serial killer psycho who is juiced up by an alien organism that makes his entire body a weapon, good luck reforming that.
Though what could Carnage do to New York? We already had a virus in the first game, and 2 had infected symbiote citizens. Wouldn't repeating the latter feel redundant? Or what about Carnage cloning himself instead of infecting people?
>Infection with virus
>Infection with symbioses
He could just slice and dice like he's supposed to and it would feel unique
>Carnage is the best example of "Yeah, we should REALLY kill this bad guy"
I think he was killed, multiple times. One time he was torn in half by the Sentry. Marvel still brought him back. Hell, the Carnage symbiote was devoured by Venom and destroyed for good.
The problem is that Cletus and his symbiote are truly one, they're bonded on a cellular level. He's basically a movie monster like The Blob or The Thing where he can reform even with the smallest piece left.
I watched Venom: Let There Be Carnage a few days ago and it was weird how they make a big deal about Cletus and the Symbiote not bonding well and they use that to best him. The whole point of him is that they are a perfect match for each other.
Yeah they really fricked that one up (but then again, those movies are butchered material anyway). There is no Cletus having a chat or bickering with his symbiote like with Eddie, it's just him. That's the whole damn point of him saying "I" instead of "We". Why even show him dodging bullets or the unique transformation if you're not going to stick with that? Also that move got weird because they were leaning hard into Lasher's gimmick just to help differ from Venom.
Apparently in the concept art Carnage was going to go full pope at the church but that got cut
>Apparently in the concept art Carnage was going to go full pope at the church but that got cut
Man what a fricking loss, Carnage is at his best when he's doing dumb unhinged shit.
What if Insomniac Carnage doubled down on the fire cult bullshit and was like a burning skeleton symbiote monster?
So I guess we kinda missed the chance to do the Life Foundation symbiotes?
Does anybody actually LIKE the Life Foundation symbiotes? I feel like the only ones people care about are Venom and Carnage. I like Mania but I'll be the first to acknowledge that she's pretty unnecessary and at this point probably forgotten (for the better).
I think out of them Scream probably has the most appeal because she's like THE female symbiote user. Not sure why Scream lucked out and had more staying power than Agony though. Maybe because yellow stands out more? I could give a rats ass about Phage and Riot. Lasher has somewhat of a gimmick, but then again regular symbiotes can do the tendril thing too.
Yeah but how does that put all of New York in a crisis besides the one man rampage? We need enemy types too. If he could clone himself, maybe that could help amp up the stakes and mayhem
Maybe you don’t need the whole city in a crisis again? Especially for a guy like Peter, no severe problem with lives in danger should be below his notice. A serial killer story can be just as if not more compelling than saving the world, people like Jojo part 4 for a reason. Sure it makes a challenge of who the mooks might be, but that’s where you get creative.
Hey I'm not disagreeing, merely going by what the other plots had. Forgot to add the NuForm reactor crisis too. I guess what we really need is a display of heroism to get Spider-Man and maybe others off Venom's back for a while.
If they don’t get the rights to the Eminem Venom rap I will not be playing it.
see this what do?
Get painfully erect as usual when I see monstrous boys.
Venom fanart that isn't just the same looking bara body uoooh
>those soles
jeeeeeSUS
actual good venom feet wtf
nice bulge
I rarely even like feet but Venom's do things to me for some reason, I think I like how dangerous his claws make them look.
Ability to switch to a woman host that can swallow people whole and you get to watch them digest in her stomach and then her breasts getting bigger from the digestion
Knock if off
Woke venom's gonna be an allegory about being trans, PlayStation cum guzzlers are gonna swallow it all and ask for more.
>pozzerman 2
How can you "play" this putrid garbage and not feel embarassed at the state of your life? You'd be less pathetic playing Hyperdimension Neptunia and thats saying a lot.
Its already a thing buddy
Why was the Venom symbiote so hostile to Peter but eventually got along with Eddie Brock and let him become a hero?
The symbiote is one half physical other half mental. Not only did it enhance Peter's strength, but it dug out all of his repressed guilt and anger that he had buried for years. It didn't really do anything wrong, merely get confused and imprinted by its host's negative traits. Then like a spurred lover, the symbiote rebound to Eddie to get back at Peter
Oh good
Will I get to play as a bipoc troony grafitti artist in this one too?
I'm sorry but why do people ITT want to frick Venom
I want you to look at that tongue and think about why Venom has a lot of fangirls
>girls
And homos too. Just saying
He is a bestial, predatory incarnation of masculine lust
It's sad that we will never get gay lust kino or any actual good gay representation at all because it's all written by moronic straight woman who get all their knowledge about what men are like from their feminist studies and vapid projections.
How are they going to make a Venom game when he fricking died
Are you dumb and or new to comics?
Would Venom even have costumes?
so what's the general consensus of Vulture, Shocker and Electro getting killed off screen with barely any mention? Scorpion at least showed up and spoke.
At least they had full careers. Not like shitty movies where they die on their first outing
homie you dumb
It's confusing to me. They were supposed to be imprisoned so they didn't have access to their gear that actually allows them to fight. But then Kraven's hunters capture them offscreen somehow and give Vulture and Shocker their special equipment offscreen somehow to fight Kraven in a cage match offscreen.
>confirmed
homie he's dead.
Nobody ever stays dead in capeshit.