okay now onto the real question, the frick do I do here? Do I just come back later? For reference >had to accept being void halfway through >managed to get wings & sword, trivializing most of the puzzles, did I cheese the game for a first run? >oh you want me to enter stairs and RESET? hah no how about I bypass them
So is it mandatory to have the wings to bypass the forced stairs/statue reset segment to begin with? Because it feels like all the puzzles are pretty trivialized in the white void
The white statue can delet your save and that's the only thing to do in white void. You are meant to take the reset stairs and try again until you reach the bottom alive. Yeah the items trivialize some stuff but late game puzzles where they are mandatory will frick you up regardless.
Oh I guess I should've remembered that hint that I was told about not taking the void.
Is it normal that the white statue doesn't do anything for now then?
In any case I found this giant carcass instead doing some exploring, but perhaps I should just reset.
How the frick do you get wings and sword but miss the cube
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I don't know, opportunity presented itself because I am a casual pattern matcher and found those two rooms/sequences as opportunities. I assume it's another pattern then. I will do a new run and match it.
Just wanted to say
HAHAHAHA FRICK YOU I DID IT
also, how do I back up my save file? I'm about to do the DIS finale and I don't want to miss out on the bonus scene again by fricking up at the very end
Just wanted to say
HAHAHAHA FRICK YOU I DID IT
also, how do I back up my save file? I'm about to do the DIS finale and I don't want to miss out on the bonus scene again by fricking up at the very end
? I just don't wanna have to do the entirety of DIS again, unless Gray also has a bonus scene of her own in which case I'll have to do it but I don't wanna do it a FOURTH time after that
As good as the game is, the devs are among the complete utter morons that like to save things in AppData.
If you still haven't just googled it C:Users<missing_string>AppDataLocalvoid_stranger
I am once again asking for help for this Cif room. I understand I need to position myself in the hallway where the other statue was, but I can't get there without killing the Mimic. Likewise, I can't get the Mimic to the center tile where I plan to push him over so I can make my way up to that tile. I've been at it for about an hour so far. Any guidance is much appreciated, even if you spell it out for me.
Don't rub it in anon
I haven't even got to DIS, whatever that is
>Game has cool art >No art gallery
Having to redo an entire scene to take a screenshot in a different color sucks ass.
I don't remember the exact process but I do know the mimic needs to walk through that first middle tile, meaning that 1- you must not be the one to walk over that tile and 2- you must kill the hand next to that tile, from the right obviously due to point 1
I don't think that middle tile on the left should be enabled at that point
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Would like some tips, I always get fricked in phase 2
Oh my gosh, that middle tile hint helped a ton. Finally got it. Someone in a previous thread said for me to ignore the middle path as a hint, guess they were messing with me or something. I took screenshots of the solution so next time I have it written down. Thanks anons!
I don't think that middle tile on the left should be enabled at that point
Just wanted to say
HAHAHAHA FRICK YOU I DID IT
also, how do I back up my save file? I'm about to do the DIS finale and I don't want to miss out on the bonus scene again by fricking up at the very end
Would like some tips, I always get fricked in phase 2
Phase 2 is pure cancer so you want to minimize the time you spend with it. This means optimizing your damage output. Cif will begin Phase 2 when you hit her 16 times, and then it takes like 20 more hits to enter phase 3. What you want to do is hit her 15 times then intentionally wait for an easy attack, deliver the 16th hit, take as many tiles as you can, and then move up to Cif's fake face and unload. Then just bumrush the newly made tiles as fast as you can to get to phase 3.
Not sure I get the strategy, do I unload as cif does the restore-the-field move at the start of phase 2? Is phase 3 just surviving a certain amount of time?
Yes and yes. Usually I manage to save up like 14 additional tiles, giving me a perfect 30 hits on Cif by the time phase 2 begins, which means I only need to hit her like 8 more times or so to begin phase 3
Haven't even played Zeroranger because I don't like shmups but I am enjoying this game a lot. It's kind of interesting how the devs made two completely different games and as a result I don't think that if you like one then you would necessarily like the other.
So, I'm thinking I'm going to have to use the infinity brand. Does that take anything away from me? Is there anything I'm not able to do by having it on?
You lose nothing and it won't stop you from getting any endings. Only matters if you're trying to do very specific things and at that point in the game you should know how to deal with it.
So, I'm thinking I'm going to have to use the infinity brand. Does that take anything away from me? Is there anything I'm not able to do by having it on?
You know how the rocks talk about the tail of the traitor? Talk to snake tiddies to figure out her backstory and keep the screenshot key finger primed.
If its your first playthrough don't worry about it. Its a massive multifloor puzzle. Pay attention to the tail as you go through the area and how murals are generally layed out. Also take screenshots. Lots of them.
>And what the hell does MIOENSmeans?
Nothing. You have to deceipher the mural to get the full message.
When doing the very last part of Lev's fight, am I supposed to endure until the end or what? I heard you gotta press Z at the heart but I tried and nothing happened and I died.
Gor is actually supposed to have a hole going through her head, not a glass eye. The ingame sprite is indeed kinda vague on that and it took me a while to see it.
>rips out her eye >decaptitates her >leaves her there as only a head to suffer for all eternity >>just because Gor didn't want to fight
What the frick was Add's problem?
So, the winking statue trick. Does that work on all of them? Even ones that don't start out with holes in front of them? Or is it just particular ones?
So what's the optimal route for DIS? Input Tan's brand as soon as possible -> Kill Gor -> Input Cif's Brand -> Spicy Staircase -> kill Tail -> get the rod -> Input Cif's Brand Again?
You're adding a whole bunch of unnecessary steps. Unless you want to start item less for some insane reason >Kill Tail >Tan warp >Kill Gor >Spicy stair case >rush to first tree room >B000 >DIS brand should work in any mural room
I think I am at at the final boss gauntlet, fighting Cif currently, but Bee ate all my locusts, does it matter if I get voided? Kinda tired of resetting
Also holy shit, stop try to make me feel bad for half of these frickers, only Tail deserves my pity.
I think I am at at the final boss gauntlet, fighting Cif currently, but Bee ate all my locusts, does it matter if I get voided? Kinda tired of resetting
Also holy shit, stop try to make me feel bad for half of these frickers, only Tail deserves my pity.
Have you been standing there the whole time after winning the fight? No it doesn't matter if you get voided, but you're not gonna get voided at this point anyways
I also think I just beat the game???? Is this a sequel to that schump game? Was Gray Add the whole time? What happens if I try to get to Lev as Lillie?
Cif was the little flying thingy. You struck a blow directly to her actual body, killing her instantly. You can beat her legit if you want by attacking the big arm-crossed projection instead, she has 3 phases. You get a bit of dialogue and a special image if you do, but it's insanely hard.
>Was Gray Add the whole time? I'm nowhere near beating everything in the game but that seems like the most obvious 'secret' in the game for now, the game gives absolutely no backstory for "Gray the Destroyer" other than she used to be a mercenary warrior, while Add is a mysterious Void Lord who went missing after a big battle that Add won. And the very first thing that Gray does in the Void is discover Add's scepter lying around. And also Add's memories/"core", and sword, and wings, depending on the player's actions. And also Add was the creator and 'mother' of the other Lords? And Gray desperately wants to be a mother to Lily and Lillie?
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WHERE ARE THE GREY PAIZURI PICS
>asking for hag breasts >on the certified Lily board
The gall of some people.
Okay frick it, apparently I am done? But I have so many questions
>Whats with Gray Pendant >Who the frick was that girl that goes away when you start Cif run >How do these timelines work? Like in one you get Lillie ending and the other all hell breaks loose and everyone dies >What was in the letter >Whats wrong with the ovaries room >Whats with the egg >Whats with the egg endings >Is there any point with the npcs >What do you get if you get all the shards >I could never find an onnogram >What the frick is DIS >How did Lev revive, why are Mont and Lev not dead >The frick is Eus
Seriously, its like I am missing half of the game
7 months ago
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>that last question
did you not talk to titty snake?
7 months ago
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I did, but that just lore, apparently Eus is still alive? What do they do? Can they show up in the game?
Did you do lillies memory puzzles? That tells you what the deal is with the room.
Gray lost her ovaries or something? Or is it her desire as Add to be a mother? Still feels like am I missing something with the room
Also whats the lore with the giant head that resets the game and the monster that eats you, frick him cuz when you pause he does a screamer at you.
7 months ago
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Never had them in the first place.
7 months ago
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Did you do lillies memory puzzles? That tells you what the deal is with the room.
7 months ago
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>How did Lev revive
All the locusts you gave to Mon >How did Mon survive Just faked it I guess
pretty sure it's the same person but she's referencing the "Grey" personality that's gone now that Add got her memories back. Like if she was still Grey and could see her and fully appreciate her?
Makes it sound more like Gray was someone Add wanted to do right by since they both cared about Lily. She doesn't argue when Lily says that Gray must have "sent" her or something like that
7 months ago
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Do DIS as gray anon.
7 months ago
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I did. Doesn't make it not weird that she talks about Gray like she's talking about a different person
7 months ago
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Rod only works on Gray and Lillie, Thief cant use it so thats weird
7 months ago
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>Whats with Gray Pendant
Do you notice anything about Add's statue at the start of the game, when you get the scepter? >Who the frick was that girl that goes away when you start Cif run
Dev's wife said she wanted story content to go through all the extra puzzles, so it feels a bit halfassed. >How do these timelines work? Like in one you get Lillie ending and the other all hell breaks loose and everyone dies Timeline 1: Gray's unvoided ending->Lillie's ending. Lillie brings Lily out of the void and into finland.
Timeline 2: Gray/Lillie's DIS ending(both are equally canon it seems). You get rid of the comet so the ayys never attack and DIS is never created. >What was in the letter
I don't remember >Whats wrong with the ovaries room
You know how at the end of Lillie's run you get a bunch of matching picture puzzles? You solve them and you get dialog. Gray's ovaries and womb were not present when she had a medical exam. Also, it's mentioned that Add used a new way to create void lords. 2 and 2 together. >>Whats with the egg
with the egg endings The carcass? Presumably this is the first bit of the timeline. It shows Humanity getting the lotus israeliteel from Zero Ranger and the aliens attacking which wipes out the majority of humanity as well as setting them back ages in terms of technology. This is also presumably the creation of DIS. >>Is there any point with the npcs
You get cute images during the endless(dev room spicy stairs, grab rod ending. >What do you get if you get all the shards
You get one last memory that shows humans who look a lot like the void lords as a research team.
cont.
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>Whats with Gray Pendant
Do you notice anything about Add's statue at the start of the game, when you get the scepter? >Who the frick was that girl that goes away when you start Cif run
Dev's wife said she wanted story content to go through all the extra puzzles, so it feels a bit halfassed. >How do these timelines work? Like in one you get Lillie ending and the other all hell breaks loose and everyone dies Timeline 1: Gray's unvoided ending->Lillie's ending. Lillie brings Lily out of the void and into finland.
Timeline 2: Gray/Lillie's DIS ending(both are equally canon it seems). You get rid of the comet so the ayys never attack and DIS is never created. >What was in the letter
I don't remember >Whats wrong with the ovaries room
You know how at the end of Lillie's run you get a bunch of matching picture puzzles? You solve them and you get dialog. Gray's ovaries and womb were not present when she had a medical exam. Also, it's mentioned that Add used a new way to create void lords. 2 and 2 together. >>Whats with the egg
with the egg endings The carcass? Presumably this is the first bit of the timeline. It shows Humanity getting the lotus israeliteel from Zero Ranger and the aliens attacking which wipes out the majority of humanity as well as setting them back ages in terms of technology. This is also presumably the creation of DIS. >>Is there any point with the npcs
You get cute images during the endless(dev room spicy stairs, grab rod ending. >What do you get if you get all the shards
You get one last memory that shows humans who look a lot like the void lords as a research team.
cont.
>I could never find an onnogram
They're in the shortcut rooms. >What the frick is DIS
My theory? Despair, Erasure.OS' sister from Zero Ranger. Like Erasure it has time travel capabilities and what have you but seems to be focused more on using people's memory for some reason. >How did Lev revive, why are Mont and Lev not dead You thought all those locusts you gave Mon were for no reason? Also mon faked her death somehow by breaking her seal. >Eus Void lord.
>Was Gray Add the whole time?
In Lillie's DIS end, Add has some lines when talking to Lily that make Gray sound like a different person than Add like "if only Gray could see you now" or something like that. So not 100% sure that Gray was 100% Add all along
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pretty sure it's the same person but she's referencing the "Grey" personality that's gone now that Add got her memories back. Like if she was still Grey and could see her and fully appreciate her?
>Only tail gor gets tortured alive just for being a fence sitter. Cif meddles with Lillie just so she can get some closure
Btw, did you know that if you block the exit of 30 with a rock and talk to talk tail she'll unblock the exit for you?
I am going to think negative thoughts about Erasure unless Black Onion somehow gives Gray an actual happy ending. Nothing bittersweet, only objectively good endings allowed.
Need some help but I would appreciate it if you kept it as vague and non-spoilerish as possible I feel advanced in some ways and behind in some others. I found seal 1 and 2, uncovered most brands including Cif, but I feel like I'm hitting a wall. From the description of the seals as well as well as Tan's brand room seeming impossible without some kind of way to kill enemies without statues, I'm guessing there should be a weapon somewhere. Problem is, I went through the entire labyrinth twice as gray and I can't find shit. I just want to know, am I missing something obvious, or should I finish a Lissie run (only obvious thing I didn't try yet cause it seemed like a significant time investment) to maybe find this weapon ?
I don't know what exactly you did to get stuck in Tan's brand room but I will tell you you need to go back there and figure it out, that's your next step.
Need some help but I would appreciate it if you kept it as vague and non-spoilerish as possible I feel advanced in some ways and behind in some others. I found seal 1 and 2, uncovered most brands including Cif, but I feel like I'm hitting a wall. From the description of the seals as well as well as Tan's brand room seeming impossible without some kind of way to kill enemies without statues, I'm guessing there should be a weapon somewhere. Problem is, I went through the entire labyrinth twice as gray and I can't find shit. I just want to know, am I missing something obvious, or should I finish a Lissie run (only obvious thing I didn't try yet cause it seemed like a significant time investment) to maybe find this weapon ?
you can 100% do tan's room with just the statues. I don't know if you need [spoiler]wings or not[/spoiler]
Finally beat the true ending, now to piece together the lore connections to zeroranger. I was waiting for black onion for so long that I wasn't looking forward to this game, I was so wrong to doubt the team, great time. NOW GIVE ME BLACK ONION
>1st time through, get Void ending >hear the song at the end >2nd time through, trying to not die this time >realize the first area has the leitmotif of the ending song >oh, that's neat >8th attempt in a row to not fricking die this time >my grievance is miiiiine >my SADNESS IS MIIIIINE
I'm gonna get it this time, I swear
If you're talking about the infinity brand, it keeps fricking me. First time I tried it, I got teleported to the secret ending. Next two times, it teleported me 10-20 floors, and then my brand was gone, leaving me to die anyway. Now I'm just gonna stockpile every locust I can, and hit the biggest warp I can when they force you at 143. Then just pray I can slip through with minimal frickups.
yes You can use your rod infront of her or
[spoiler]you can look at the murals as you go through the area and take note of the brands entered on them. then pay attention to rooms that seem to stand out from others and remind you of the brands and then put 2 and 2 together[/spoiler]
but why then? Wouldn't Cif want to support Add and what she's doing and trust her? Somehow Cif knew that Lev was alive too and wants to stop her as well so why stop Add/Lillly/Grey?
I don't think her or Bee had a choice in the matter even if they did understand what was going on. They aren't able to disobey a direct order from DIS to stop the intrusion.
Add wants to destroy DIS and Cif is also loyal to DIS for whatever reason.
I think she just knew Lillie wasn't acting on her own. She spied on Gray and Lillie for Lillie's whole life and didn't seem to ever catch on to Add possessing Gray
She knows it's Add on both routes. On Gray's route she says she won't go easy on Gray out of sentimentality, and when you beat her the hard way on both routes she says this: >I wasn't able to burn as bright as you.
Hah...
You got me.
...
Thank you for the fond memories.
Farewell, Add.
I think she just knew Lillie wasn't acting on her own. She spied on Gray and Lillie for Lillie's whole life and didn't seem to ever catch on to Add possessing Gray
Why did add even hide away? Why have a part of her outside?
I'm thinking the original purpose was so she could force her way into DIS as an outsider, since it seems void lords are incapable of accessing the core unless it lets them.
was this made by the discord or something?
Some of the statements seem a little off or are missing stuff that's been discussed here in the threads but the rest seems pretty accurate
Is Mon's statue quote really unknowable? Don't you get a chance to get face to face with it in the DIS room with the eight statues you need to dispose of in order?
It's a mimic that pushes those ones. Precisely because you can't push Mon's statue yourself.
If you're adjacent to Mon's statue then you're in its LoS, so you're already dead before you have a chance to talk.
Have you? Being old doesn't automatically make a book actually good. It's 98% garbage that requires so many liner notes to understand who anyone is, it's unironically the better experience to read a summary
Instead of taking the stairs at the end of Cif, I fell through the hole and had a nice beach ending. Is it worth to go through Cif again to go down the stairs? Will I get a different ending?
>Lily's Father
Is he the guy you see near the end of Lillith's run that got upset about your hair? Did it imply he thought she was Lily at first until he realized she wasn't?
Yeah, and then probably realizes she is her grand daughter and starts laughing, like everything turned out for best despite all his frick ups. Really curious how his post game credit scene looks
I suddenly dont understand anything and am currently casting sincere doubt on the laughable insinuation that I or anyone else ever actually did for even a single moment
Yeah I still don't get why the void lords are modeled after the science team either. I get like 2/3 of what's going on but not that. We know Add came from the comet (LILITH) which crashed into DIS so maybe she modeled them after the remains of humans she saw nearby.
I activated my infinity brand, then in my run I accidentally activate the reset in floor 190++ something, so do anyone got a whole skipped list for the floors
meaning if im in infinity brand, if i skipped using the locust, it just transferred me to random floor, after that if I died i literally start a new game back?
I started Cif again, but it won't let me leave. Even the spicy staircases don't work. Is there a way to escape?
At least I did get to the end and got to see all the Void Lords as babies.
Ah thanks. Fatty horns into the void again! I'm not sure what the carcass refers to, so I'll aim for the beach ending again. Thank goodness I wrote down the solution to some of those Mon floors.
Got annoyed when I saw you get locked into some gay aids playthrough if you die and the only way to not die is to play near perfect for a gorillion levels and there's no undo or true save/load so if you accidentally bump an npc woops see you next playthrough
>I'm not sure what the carcass refers t pick up the B in your hud. Follow the spooky noise. The gong is the same as the gong you hear when you pick up the cube, so hit six times and wait six seconds.
I started Cif again, but it won't let me leave. Even the spicy staircases don't work. Is there a way to escape?
At least I did get to the end and got to see all the Void Lords as babies.
Simply suicide enough times to trigger egging yourself. You are on 1.0.4, right?
Does anyone have the video for this? I've never seen it happen for me and last I left the game was fricking around in the debug mode and accidentally warping myself to Lillie's ending and I can't be fricked to wait it out.
Got annoyed when I saw you get locked into some gay aids playthrough if you die and the only way to not die is to play near perfect for a gorillion levels and there's no undo or true save/load so if you accidentally bump an npc woops see you next playthrough
A void run is the intended experience for a first run with a number of hints about how to make things easier only being given later. Plus it's kino end sequence.
Hey, at least you're not me. >literally fell into a pit on floor 2 without even trying to frick around with the staff
Why am I so fricking bad at puzzle games?
Can I get a tip on which room the Bee's Hole Picross is leading to? I went through all 225 levels and couldn't find a match, is it in one of B??? rooms? It's the final crystal i am missing.
Ive completed the first ending and ive figured out some of the seal stuff but the game isnt gripping me I feel like it takes too long to get through things without some sort of level select Am i just getting filtered?
I picked it up cause I love the mulana games but this feels like it falls way short when you arent working on a secret
>without some sort of level select
It's not perfect but there are a lot of shortcuts and teleports and in particular one specific floor can get you almost anywhere.
I know about the locust skip and the infinite locust boost but is there a proper level select? Go ahead and tell me cause Im gonna drop the game without one its such a pain to staircase myself to death
I already spoiled the solution but what is the logic behind the tail room statue? How are you supposed to figure that one out? I visited the tail mural room etc. but if only talks about brands
It's explained to you in the appropriate brand room.
I know about the locust skip and the infinite locust boost but is there a proper level select? Go ahead and tell me cause Im gonna drop the game without one its such a pain to staircase myself to death
There's no proper level select. You can enter any brand in any room where it fits, and I think it's possible to enter all but one of the brands on B053, so it's a quick shortcut to any area of the game.
That aside, there's plenty you can do with finite locust skips, UI manipulation and the six shortcuts that Mon sells, but they're more specific - the first two make getting to B053 very quick, though.
If Tail is still alive (and maybe some other condition I can't remember off the top of my head?) you can see the seal and interact with it, which then proceeds to tell you the solution.
I know about the locust skip and the infinite locust boost but is there a proper level select? Go ahead and tell me cause Im gonna drop the game without one its such a pain to staircase myself to death
You can use any brand in any 6x6 room and it'll immediately warp you to the corresponding realm. For example, in the second realm you can enter Tan's brand which will immediately warp you forward by about 90 floors. There's also the fact that UI tiles count as regular floor tiles and work as you'd expect, and once you get the items you can just complete floors in five seconds each.
These are the kinds of games you should be buying, I know not everyone has the money and it's always better to have more people play it any means necessary, but throwing a buy at it if and when you can, even if it's years later makes these kinds of games happen
It's a direct copy from my steam installation, like all previous versions. Without me posting the link in one of the first threads accompanying with snake breasts most likely we wouldn't get those theads. Also plenty of anons bought if after trying it according to the replies.
Wasn't necessarily aimed at you, seems like the kinds of people that dig this sorta thing are also pirates and teens and poor and whatever, so just putting it out there.
I assume this only because these are the only places I ever see actually talk about this sorta thing
Nah, the game just spells it out to you if you didn't notice it the first time around. I got it on my very first run as well because of how incredibly obvious the first mural was.
Try again unvoided. Talk to the very first rock behind the very first chest to get a massive hint that makes the game much, much easier in the long run.
When you're back on title screen for every item you found on the previous runs it gives you a brand you need to draw twice before your own to start with that item
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Twice? The 'are you sure' is asking you to do it again? Frick off, that's moronic
7 months ago
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anon...
7 months ago
Anonymous
Ok, I'm moronic too, but the requirement is still moronic. Why twice, what's the point
7 months ago
Anonymous
So that people discovering the relevant brands by accident are given the opportunity to show that they know what they're doing (= are capable of entering the same brand they just randomly drew a second time), is my guess. It does slow things down a little for people who already absolutely know what they're doing with their unlocked New Game brands.
DIS is kicking my ass. I can't get rid of all the enemies unless I use the sword, but if I use the sword the Lev statures make it impossible to build a bridge to the stairs. I can make the evangelion cube collide with the lolwut pear, but not without creating shadow people, which count as enemies, so I can't build a bridge either. What the frick.
You'll have to do this swordless.
First on your hitlist is the diamond
The two blobs at the top and middle of the screen should be next to go, the one to the far right is the last one of the blobs to go.
Is there any way to restart without using the black statues? I missed what I was aiming for and now I'm stuck in puzzles way above my competence level.
In a tree room Remove the brane number from the UI, the left side that starts with B. This will place you in the black void. Turn your volume up and listen closely for a sound, it gets louder the closer you get. The source of the sound is a giant alien egg. Boink it six times and then stand still for six seconds.
By the time I get to a tree room I've most likely already found a floor with the easy way to do it. Oh well time to muster up every braincell I have to beat this floor.....hard mode really lives up to its name when you have no items.....
Oh I didn't know that was a thing. Well if I can't solve it maybe I'll end up having to do that. If I do that will it return me all the way back to playing as Gray or will it restart me as....whoever it is you play as after? I did notice that answering no when you get voided is different from using a black statue, so I guess a continue is similar.
Do the Egg thing regardless for ending and extra lore.
Am I supposed to even know about the egg thing yet? I haven't even finished hard mode so there's still a lot of the game left for me.
>Am I supposed to even know about the egg thing yet?
All of the hints for it can be found in the Gray playthrough, you're not going to be taught about it explicitly
You're always supposed to find out about it yourself, but one of the brand rooms contains a hint about removing the brane value and in something that you definitely haven't yet reached, a certain character will have a shadow guide her to the carcass instead of needing to follow the music manually.
It will completely end your run and force you to start over. However, once you get reset you'll receive a bunch of special brands you can input in the brand painting screen to start with items or characters you've already seen, so you'll essentially get to start over from the beginning of whatever run you left off from.
Is there something I'm missing wandering around the void? The soud gets louder but isn't giving me any direction, and it doesn't seem like I'm getting closer
Yeah, they're both a part of the same spooky ambience that comes from a single spot. The sound is emitted in a diamond shape with the granularity of entire rooms, you'll want to find where the sound peaks on one axis and then just hit the other axis the same way, once you think you've found the maximum then just go in a spiral until you find it.
Yeah, they're both a part of the same spooky ambience that comes from a single spot. The sound is emitted in a diamond shape with the granularity of entire rooms, you'll want to find where the sound peaks on one axis and then just hit the other axis the same way, once you think you've found the maximum then just go in a spiral until you find it.
That has been the hint that anons have been giving, and also if you have the cube and talk to rocks then two of them tell you that the "tail holds the key to the brand" or something similiar
It's a brand name, and there's no sponsorship. It's also funny that there's inevitably hundreds of men playing the game who end up confused because they just don't have a clue what is being talked about.
Most probably don't care, but it's still good manners to avoid involving others without their permission in professional matters (as in, wherever money is changing hands, like selling media products such as vidya). The name being "censored" at least gives the impression that it's not an official endorsement or anything.
There's genuinely no other game like this.
You can play La Mulana or Environmental Station Alpha if you didn't already but they're much more conventional in their design.
Question about NG+ish stuff I have 3 items and unlocked Lilith and found out about brand selection. Is a voided run a new end again or should I just try and stomp new floors with these Burdens?
For ng+ it does not matter if you are voided or not. Burdens make the floors not impossible tho, I recommend using them. You are not going to stomp the floors even with burdens, the floors are designed around you having all items. Itemless run is possible but it's often compared to CBT.
Voided doesn't matter as Lillie. The only downside is that you won't be able to collect any gems. But the endings are the same.
Cool cool. That's basically what I was wondering, didn't want to feel like I was cheating something but I guess I indeed have these tools for a reason. So then infinite lives is also fine to use?
Don't use the infinity brand. Unless you really want those gems, but they are mostly postgame completionist stuff. Having infinity will cuck you out of locust teleporting, you wont be able to find Cifs brand (crucial for entering DIS) and you also can't avoid killing Gor without a random teleport. (You want Gor alive, so you can talk to her later as another character for extra lore)
There's no reason not to use it unless you need numbered locusts to hit some of the specific warps. You will feel like you're cheating with some of the levels being suspiciously easy because everything is tuned for burdenless, but honestly there's no shame in it because it really does get assblastingly difficult. You can give it a shot at will btw, turn off the burdens in the menu and see how far you get before you have to reach for some help.
Don't use the infinity brand. Unless you really want those gems, but they are mostly postgame completionist stuff. Having infinity will cuck you out of locust teleporting, you wont be able to find Cifs brand (crucial for entering DIS) and you also can't avoid killing Gor without a random teleport. (You want Gor alive, so you can talk to her later as another character for extra lore)
Infinity brand is a trap. Every time you can access the UI you can match your locust count to the floor number and die a single time to stay on that floor.
The other guy is wrong, the floors are designed around having no items (except memory) and you will feel like you're skipping the level if you use them. But you can just turn them off.
No, I did skips on both of my NG+ runs and I still got it on both, it should happen early-ish into Lev's domain.Maybe it's that I was unvoided on both times?
No, I did skips on both of my NG+ runs and I still got it on both, it should happen early-ish into Lev's domain.Maybe it's that I was unvoided on both times?
I was also not voided, forgot to mention that. Didn’t use the infinity brand either.
[...]
I think you also have to be a good person.
Didn’t kill any npcs either if that’s what this means
justice is saved across all playthroughs, if your justice score actually matters then you might have to go do a few runs that make yourself a better person. Easy way would be to go to court and admit guilt
The first instance where it appears that you'll likely hear the motif is in Dancing Lesson - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDsMYjM6ytk. Later, in the endgame, when you reunite with Lily in DIS, you get a clearer version of the flute solo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuu6Kkd0TtE.
I'm completely new to this game (I know it's risky to be in this thread) I beat the game with VOID as my lives and have reset and I'm now going for the crystals. I stumbled upon the puzzle with making a square room match the brand and accidentally moved onto the UI in a tree room but decided not to mess with them yet. Am I supposed to just frick around with things via pattern recognition to solve the game's mysteries or does the game give progress/hints to do it sequence by sequence the more you play? I want to basically know if I'm skipping things by fricking around with this or if I'm meant to just frick around when I feel like it because both of these were pure coincidence.
It's never too early to frick around with shit as long as you're not looking anything up outside of the game.
Crystals are extremely unimportant.
The murals can and should be done as soon as you notice them
Frick me, really? I've been scouring 200 floors for no reason? That seems weird, surely the game would be like "ok, you did it infinite lives, now do it limited" and go from there?
>"ok, you did it infinite lives, now do it limited" and go from there?
There is literally nothing wrong with doing this, and it is the main intended route but you can make your life easier by starting to explore for other possibilities alongside it as you go.
>I stumbled upon the puzzle with making a square room match the brand and accidentally moved onto the UI in a tree room but decided not to mess with them yet. Am I supposed to just frick around with things via pattern recognition to solve the game's mysteries or does the game give progress/hints to do it sequence by sequence the more you play?
The game gives a lot of hints, some later rather than sooner, but there are very few outright sequence breaks, especially since you've already reached SAFETY LOCKER. In general, If you're finding murals, you should try to make use of them, and the final memory of a VOID run is intended to be the most blatant hint to set you on that path (and lead you to the cube), while messing with the UI is a general tool and can and should be done whenever convenient, since you've discovered it. There are some more blatant hints towards your ability to do it (and perhaps specific things that you can try) later, but they're hardly required.
>I beat the game with VOID
There are multiple hints in the first playthrough for both brands and UI manips you should be exploring both by now
So I'm a brainlet. I decided not to use the Infinity brand because I assume it will be a double-edged sword. What is the hint in the final memory? When it shows the brand? | What's SAFETY LOCKER? I assume the area where the vocal track plays as the lyrics say it?
I might do another VOID run and pay more attention lol
You're free to use the infinity brand, but since you've discovered that you can mess with your UI, you'll find that there are fun things to be done with a finite locust count, and there's one specific point in the game where if you don't meet a certain condition, having the infinity brand can cause you problems.
The big hint was the brand from the first mural showing up in the memory, yes, and SAFETY LOCKER is the vocal track (and a shorthand for the Voided sequence that it accompanies in general).
>I feel like I shouldn't
Again, there is no such thing as doing something too early in this game unless you're some kind of puristgay. You won't really get locked into some alternative route if that's what you're afraid of.
It's easy to feel a bit disoriented and lost on what you're really supposed to be doing after the first Voided clear, but I get the impression that that's by design. But as long as you have some leads for trying new things (like the couple things you mentioned), you're never going to be really stuck in the game. If you already collected the Void Memory by solving the first domain's brand, you're going to get showered in new information that should help you along your way.
Pick up a tile and put it on the left hole, push snek statue to the right to fill the gap, push bottom snek statue to the top button, leave the inner circle and push top demon statue down
Pick up a tile and put it on the left hole, push snek statue to the right to fill the gap, push bottom snek statue to the top button, leave the inner circle and push top demon statue down
Thanks. BUT NOW THE GAME HAS SENT ME BACK LIKE 5 FLOORS
what was the message in this room? I skipped it by mistake and only started solving the ones after. fricking the first one up wont change anything, right?
No I think you're fine. Basically Gray's friend (I forgot her name) explaining to Lillith what happened when she first met Gray and her raising her: >she sees Gray in the road like we see >Gray's friend is pregnant at the same time, tries to help Gray out >her friend helps her get set-up and they become friends, helping her with real life stuff >the doctors noticed Gray doesn't even have the ability to give birth, like her system to do so has been completely cleanly removed from her, they don't know what to think of it >Gray never tells her friend what happened to her dad but tells her that basically Gray isn't the mother, but won't tell what happened to the mother either (if I'm remembering correctly) >her friend assures Lillith that Gray loved her like her own mother even if it seemed like she was tough on her it was out of love
I think that was all of it.
Do the Picross murals change randomly? I have 4 instances of the same one screenshotted in different playthroughs and there seems to be 2 variations. What gives?
They don't change but there are several of them
[...] you want to get big multipliers by letting a lot of israeliteels around. Destroying a israeliteel with your shots will turn the projectiles on screen into medals, absorbing a israeliteel makes you temporarily invincible
These are all of the same mural in the first shortcut, on floor 37. I just used different names for the files. I thought the variation would be exclusive to ng+ but I ended up seeing both in there anyway.
you want to get big multipliers by letting a lot of israeliteels around. Destroying a israeliteel with your shots will turn the projectiles on screen into medals, absorbing a israeliteel makes you temporarily invincible
>Mon's Funhouse as Grey or Lillie
Ballbusting you also meet the cute NPC girl at the end but she doesn't say anything important >DIS as Lillie or Cif Lillie has a slightly different ending, Cif can't enter DIS but gets a "joke" ending if you unlock the super rod seals as Lillie, don't take it, and go to B000 with Cif
Seems like it could be handy later but I was trying to do a story run-through so I feel a bit owned for the night. Well, no harm in starting disgaea 7.
It just kinda dawned on me once I got to the floor without walls. Were some of those even solvable without it?
I randomly did it early on in a tree room.
Though I didn't figure out any of the practical functions until much later.
Any other games where this is an element?
One of the B030 floors has this, I think it's b36 it's the one with the three maggots and a lot of glass tiles. The bottom right corner has a very distinctly different look than the rest of the wall and that's because it's a single tile you can walk on and enter the HUD.
Just checking before I move on - is there anything to miss when you pick up the infinity symbol in a tree room? The fact that it doesn't force quit itself makes feel like I'm missing something
I mean in the UI, if you pick up the infinity on the locusts in a tree room it does a unique spaz out to a "negative infinity" screen, is there anything of worth there
i solved the picross at the ??? floor you run into during the first teleport but I'm not sure what it means other than a floor layout with a hidden crystal somewhere I guess???
what happens when you reach the end of the dungeon with cif instead of fighting mon?
kinda cant be assed trying it myself this game doesnt fricking end.
I can not figure out how to set B053 up, it's driving me crazy. I've got the screenshot of the only mural that actually works in there from floor 169 but I can't get it right and I'm out of locusts
there's some anon who posted a list of every crystal he had minus 1, you can look at his list and cross reference it with yours and find what's missing
If you don't know how much you want to give him then none of them, those guys are just there so you can reduce your Locust count and nothing happens with them no matter how much you feed them.
So this game has added to my list of paranoid actions to take in every game >move to the left of the screen at the start of the level >input the konami code whenever possible >check out the "no" option during the first game launch dialog if it exists >check suspicious corners for secrets >try to check if the hud can be interacted with
>No. Should I start doing that?
Unless you've been placing down the murals on graph sheets, yes.
Hint for the X you can grab stairs like you can any other tile.
My bad, replied early. Actual solution because I know how difficult this game can be with a stomach illness left, left, down, grab.
up,left,left, down, left, right, place
The rest should be easy, just bait the bull around while you move the stairs to an empty spot(the one to the right of the opened chest) and replace it with a solid tile, bait the bull around again and place a tile in the left corner, grab the X. You then can bait the bull to move to the left, slip around him and go get the chest, and then go back to the stairs without dying.
>Unless you've been placing down the murals on graph sheets, yes
Oops. Haven't done this at all. I thought it was one of those things where you gain the knowledge to read them after finishing the game once.
First move should be left left left, my bad.
Monster keeps killing me when I grab the tile after going down.
Let me rethink it. The only way I see this working is to fill the middle glass tile with a solid and then using that 3 tile line to bait the bull while placing the tiles you want in the places you want.
So I guess the start would be left left right, grab, left, down, up, left left, down, left, right, place and then go from there?
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another fricking left missing. Let me draw it on the map.
Looking for a gentle nudge in the right direction I've finished the game twice, onece voided once not voided. I've learned two shortcuts, did some fricking around with locusts, I Have the void memory and an incantation for a void sword but don't have the slightest idea where and how to do the incantation. I've just died as white haired girl in harder versions of the earlier levels, should I push ahead as this new character or should I be doubling back as Gray and figuring out the sword thing?
I mainly ask because the first couple of these new puzzles fricking stumped me, and if I"m not careful I'll butt my head against a wall over and over and get sick of the game before figuring I should be backtracking
>gentle nudge
Going through hardmode without bees gifts is best compared to CBT.
You're taking Gor too literally. Think about how you acquired the cube anon. Look at the room, do you notice anything strange about it?
I don't know who Gor is yet, but I'm guessing that's the giant head that gave me the incantation/riddle and asked me to kill it with the void sword? Gray then said she doesn't know how to use incantations and the head yelled at me. Frick it the incantation was: "Where nothingness engraves the brand of lord,
Where the path to damnation rests within you,
Place your faith and embrace the void"
I get I need to jump in a hole but fricked if I know where the path to damnation rests wihin me, I was thinking something about the song at the end of the void ending but then I figured just write it down, press on and something will pop up
>fricked if I know where the path to damnation rests wihin me, That's telling you that you need to be holding the stairs at the end for the brand to count.
The harder puzzles will be much easier if you go back and get the items you missed. Every mural has a brand room located a few floors later within the same lord's domain, just have to keep an eye out for the room that is 6x6 in size.
For a hint to the location of one, try to solve the third mural. You could grab it on your current run even.
I suck at spoiling. I'll try to be more discreet this time, especially after re-reading your post. If you have the Void Memory, then that means you know how to get the Sword too. There is a third item in the game that you can also get in a similar manner which will greatly benefit you.
In fact, if you decide to play as the new character, then I strongly advise you to start the game with all the items enabled first before starting as the new character. Her levels are hard as hell and they don't get easier. I've read on here you can beat all her levels without items, but I found some floors near impossible to do so.
Also there is a secret mechanic the game vaguely hints at that you probably haven't discovered yet. You will probably stumble upon it while messing around eventually, especially in the later levels.
okay now onto the real question, the frick do I do here? Do I just come back later? For reference
>had to accept being void halfway through
>managed to get wings & sword, trivializing most of the puzzles, did I cheese the game for a first run?
>oh you want me to enter stairs and RESET? hah no how about I bypass them
So is it mandatory to have the wings to bypass the forced stairs/statue reset segment to begin with? Because it feels like all the puzzles are pretty trivialized in the white void
The white statue can delet your save and that's the only thing to do in white void.
You are meant to take the reset stairs and try again until you reach the bottom alive.
Yeah the items trivialize some stuff but late game puzzles where they are mandatory will frick you up regardless.
Oh I guess I should've remembered that hint that I was told about not taking the void.
Is it normal that the white statue doesn't do anything for now then?
In any case I found this giant carcass instead doing some exploring, but perhaps I should just reset.
You found the cube, right? there was a hint on how to activate carcass in the cube room, you can't miss it
What cube? Cube room?
How the frick do you get wings and sword but miss the cube
I don't know, opportunity presented itself because I am a casual pattern matcher and found those two rooms/sequences as opportunities. I assume it's another pattern then. I will do a new run and match it.
Considering he said he found the wings and sword but no mention of the cube I'm going to assume he hasn't.
>where they are mandatory
Not such thing!
my brain dead ass thought that was isabelle from the thumbnail
Just wanted to say
HAHAHAHA FRICK YOU I DID IT
also, how do I back up my save file? I'm about to do the DIS finale and I don't want to miss out on the bonus scene again by fricking up at the very end
is this the true cif ending?
If by that you mean beating Cif the hard way then yes
congratz anon
I know there's been people here trying that for weeks now
Guys this game is dead, stop making threads. Everyone has already finished this game
Make Mulana threads instead, frick the Eternal Prison, holy shit.
Can you answer
? I just don't wanna have to do the entirety of DIS again, unless Gray also has a bonus scene of her own in which case I'll have to do it but I don't wanna do it a FOURTH time after that
As good as the game is, the devs are among the complete utter morons that like to save things in AppData.
If you still haven't just googled it C:Users<missing_string>AppDataLocalvoid_stranger
I am once again asking for help for this Cif room. I understand I need to position myself in the hallway where the other statue was, but I can't get there without killing the Mimic. Likewise, I can't get the Mimic to the center tile where I plan to push him over so I can make my way up to that tile. I've been at it for about an hour so far. Any guidance is much appreciated, even if you spell it out for me.
Don't rub it in anon
I haven't even got to DIS, whatever that is
An art gallery would be real nice
I don't remember the exact process but I do know the mimic needs to walk through that first middle tile, meaning that 1- you must not be the one to walk over that tile and 2- you must kill the hand next to that tile, from the right obviously due to point 1
Oh my gosh, that middle tile hint helped a ton. Finally got it. Someone in a previous thread said for me to ignore the middle path as a hint, guess they were messing with me or something. I took screenshots of the solution so next time I have it written down. Thanks anons!
Holy shit, is that FANART I see?
I don't think that middle tile on the left should be enabled at that point
Would like some tips, I always get fricked in phase 2
Phase 2 is pure cancer so you want to minimize the time you spend with it. This means optimizing your damage output.
Cif will begin Phase 2 when you hit her 16 times, and then it takes like 20 more hits to enter phase 3. What you want to do is hit her 15 times then intentionally wait for an easy attack, deliver the 16th hit, take as many tiles as you can, and then move up to Cif's fake face and unload. Then just bumrush the newly made tiles as fast as you can to get to phase 3.
Not sure I get the strategy, do I unload as cif does the restore-the-field move at the start of phase 2? Is phase 3 just surviving a certain amount of time?
Yes and yes. Usually I manage to save up like 14 additional tiles, giving me a perfect 30 hits on Cif by the time phase 2 begins, which means I only need to hit her like 8 more times or so to begin phase 3
Anyone else dislike ZeroRanger but loves this game
Haven't even played Zeroranger because I don't like shmups but I am enjoying this game a lot. It's kind of interesting how the devs made two completely different games and as a result I don't think that if you like one then you would necessarily like the other.
>Game has cool art
>No art gallery
Having to redo an entire scene to take a screenshot in a different color sucks ass.
look at how frickin flat she is. goddamn that's hot
Those childbearing hips do it for me
Not even the flattest.
You lose nothing and it won't stop you from getting any endings. Only matters if you're trying to do very specific things and at that point in the game you should know how to deal with it.
Kino scene.
I really like the aesthetics of her cycling through a few sprites looking at you menacingly with a completely empty dialogue box
She was actually trying to talk. She doesn't have a mouth though so it didn't work very well.
That's what I want the most tbdesu. It's disappointing that there is a brand for the OST but not the gallery.
I really hope they add one at some point.
So, I'm thinking I'm going to have to use the infinity brand. Does that take anything away from me? Is there anything I'm not able to do by having it on?
>Is there anything I'm not able to do by having it on?
There is but if your goal is just get to the bottom alive you shouldn't worry about it for now
I will say, I did see how to turn it off. I'm assuming I don't really need to worry about it until I'm able to?
How the frick do I make sense of the layout in this mural?
And what the hell does MIOENS means?
I can forgive you if you look this one up. Take a shit load of screenshots after that room.
You know how the rocks talk about the tail of the traitor? Talk to snake tiddies to figure out her backstory and keep the screenshot key finger primed.
If its your first playthrough don't worry about it.
Its a massive multifloor puzzle. Pay attention to the tail as you go through the area and how murals are generally layed out. Also take screenshots. Lots of them.
>And what the hell does MIOENSmeans?
Nothing. You have to deceipher the mural to get the full message.
When doing the very last part of Lev's fight, am I supposed to endure until the end or what? I heard you gotta press Z at the heart but I tried and nothing happened and I died.
Gor is actually supposed to have a hole going through her head, not a glass eye. The ingame sprite is indeed kinda vague on that and it took me a while to see it.
I think the real giveaway is that if you look close enough, you can make out the tile seams behind it.
Is this tonnor?
Don't know who that is.
I love Mon, such an uncanny design
>rips out her eye
>decaptitates her
>leaves her there as only a head to suffer for all eternity
>>just because Gor didn't want to fight
What the frick was Add's problem?
Loyalty or (fate worse than) death.
So, the winking statue trick. Does that work on all of them? Even ones that don't start out with holes in front of them? Or is it just particular ones?
Yes. If you don't see a hole, make your own.
So what's the optimal route for DIS?
Input Tan's brand as soon as possible -> Kill Gor -> Input Cif's Brand -> Spicy Staircase -> kill Tail -> get the rod -> Input Cif's Brand Again?
Just use the brand you get for the infinity rod.
You're adding a whole bunch of unnecessary steps. Unless you want to start item less for some insane reason
>Kill Tail
>Tan warp
>Kill Gor
>Spicy stair case
>rush to first tree room
>B000
>DIS brand should work in any mural room
>DIS brand should work in any mural room
It won't because a lot of mural rooms have rocks or other objects in the corners.
>DIS brand should work in any mural room
Not exactly. It's only really possible in b227 due to the placement of rocks and permanent tiles in the rest.
So uh, how exactly do I get out of here?
Dig a hole and try jumping!
Just go down a floor. You don't always need stairs to descend.
also congrats on getting the "secret" ending
I'm the anon from earlier asking about the infinity brand. I finally got back down to 143, and I got warped here. I just wanted a normal ending.
I think I am at at the final boss gauntlet, fighting Cif currently, but Bee ate all my locusts, does it matter if I get voided? Kinda tired of resetting
Also holy shit, stop try to make me feel bad for half of these frickers, only Tail deserves my pity.
Huuuh, she just died in one hit???? Thats so anticlimatic
Please someone answer
Have you been standing there the whole time after winning the fight?
No it doesn't matter if you get voided, but you're not gonna get voided at this point anyways
Is Cif supposed to be a weakling?
I also think I just beat the game???? Is this a sequel to that schump game? Was Gray Add the whole time? What happens if I try to get to Lev as Lillie?
I seriously dont understand anything
Cif was the little flying thingy. You struck a blow directly to her actual body, killing her instantly. You can beat her legit if you want by attacking the big arm-crossed projection instead, she has 3 phases. You get a bit of dialogue and a special image if you do, but it's insanely hard.
SHIT, forgot to add spoilers. Sorry
>Was Gray Add the whole time?
I'm nowhere near beating everything in the game but that seems like the most obvious 'secret' in the game for now, the game gives absolutely no backstory for "Gray the Destroyer" other than she used to be a mercenary warrior, while Add is a mysterious Void Lord who went missing after a big battle that Add won. And the very first thing that Gray does in the Void is discover Add's scepter lying around. And also Add's memories/"core", and sword, and wings, depending on the player's actions. And also Add was the creator and 'mother' of the other Lords? And Gray desperately wants to be a mother to Lily and Lillie?
>asking for hag breasts
>on the certified Lily board
The gall of some people.
Did you quote the wrong anon?
Okay frick it, apparently I am done? But I have so many questions
>Whats with Gray Pendant
>Who the frick was that girl that goes away when you start Cif run
>How do these timelines work? Like in one you get Lillie ending and the other all hell breaks loose and everyone dies
>What was in the letter
>Whats wrong with the ovaries room
>Whats with the egg
>Whats with the egg endings
>Is there any point with the npcs
>What do you get if you get all the shards
>I could never find an onnogram
>What the frick is DIS
>How did Lev revive, why are Mont and Lev not dead
>The frick is Eus
Seriously, its like I am missing half of the game
>that last question
did you not talk to titty snake?
I did, but that just lore, apparently Eus is still alive? What do they do? Can they show up in the game?
Gray lost her ovaries or something? Or is it her desire as Add to be a mother? Still feels like am I missing something with the room
Also whats the lore with the giant head that resets the game and the monster that eats you, frick him cuz when you pause he does a screamer at you.
Never had them in the first place.
Did you do lillies memory puzzles? That tells you what the deal is with the room.
>How did Lev revive
All the locusts you gave to Mon
>How did Mon survive
Just faked it I guess
Makes it sound more like Gray was someone Add wanted to do right by since they both cared about Lily. She doesn't argue when Lily says that Gray must have "sent" her or something like that
Do DIS as gray anon.
I did. Doesn't make it not weird that she talks about Gray like she's talking about a different person
Rod only works on Gray and Lillie, Thief cant use it so thats weird
>Whats with Gray Pendant
Do you notice anything about Add's statue at the start of the game, when you get the scepter?
>Who the frick was that girl that goes away when you start Cif run
Dev's wife said she wanted story content to go through all the extra puzzles, so it feels a bit halfassed.
>How do these timelines work? Like in one you get Lillie ending and the other all hell breaks loose and everyone dies
Timeline 1: Gray's unvoided ending->Lillie's ending. Lillie brings Lily out of the void and into finland.
Timeline 2: Gray/Lillie's DIS ending(both are equally canon it seems). You get rid of the comet so the ayys never attack and DIS is never created.
>What was in the letter
I don't remember
>Whats wrong with the ovaries room
You know how at the end of Lillie's run you get a bunch of matching picture puzzles? You solve them and you get dialog. Gray's ovaries and womb were not present when she had a medical exam. Also, it's mentioned that Add used a new way to create void lords. 2 and 2 together.
>>Whats with the egg
with the egg endings
The carcass? Presumably this is the first bit of the timeline. It shows Humanity getting the lotus israeliteel from Zero Ranger and the aliens attacking which wipes out the majority of humanity as well as setting them back ages in terms of technology. This is also presumably the creation of DIS.
>>Is there any point with the npcs
You get cute images during the endless(dev room spicy stairs, grab rod ending.
>What do you get if you get all the shards
You get one last memory that shows humans who look a lot like the void lords as a research team.
cont.
>I could never find an onnogram
They're in the shortcut rooms.
>What the frick is DIS
My theory? Despair, Erasure.OS' sister from Zero Ranger. Like Erasure it has time travel capabilities and what have you but seems to be focused more on using people's memory for some reason.
>How did Lev revive, why are Mont and Lev not dead
You thought all those locusts you gave Mon were for no reason? Also mon faked her death somehow by breaking her seal.
>Eus
Void lord.
>Was Gray Add the whole time?
In Lillie's DIS end, Add has some lines when talking to Lily that make Gray sound like a different person than Add like "if only Gray could see you now" or something like that. So not 100% sure that Gray was 100% Add all along
pretty sure it's the same person but she's referencing the "Grey" personality that's gone now that Add got her memories back. Like if she was still Grey and could see her and fully appreciate her?
Bee is all bark and not bite anon, she never hurts anyone except that one time you wanted to destroy the entire server
Bee turns Gor into a living meat cube and hides her in a hidden floor if you don't kill Gor on your initial meeting.
>Only tail
gor gets tortured alive just for being a fence sitter. Cif meddles with Lillie just so she can get some closure
Btw, did you know that if you block the exit of 30 with a rock and talk to talk tail she'll unblock the exit for you?
I am going to think negative thoughts about Erasure unless Black Onion somehow gives Gray an actual happy ending. Nothing bittersweet, only objectively good endings allowed.
Need some help but I would appreciate it if you kept it as vague and non-spoilerish as possible
I feel advanced in some ways and behind in some others. I found seal 1 and 2, uncovered most brands including Cif, but I feel like I'm hitting a wall. From the description of the seals as well as well as Tan's brand room seeming impossible without some kind of way to kill enemies without statues, I'm guessing there should be a weapon somewhere. Problem is, I went through the entire labyrinth twice as gray and I can't find shit. I just want to know, am I missing something obvious, or should I finish a Lissie run (only obvious thing I didn't try yet cause it seemed like a significant time investment) to maybe find this weapon ?
I don't know what exactly you did to get stuck in Tan's brand room but I will tell you you need to go back there and figure it out, that's your next step.
Ok I'll try doing that thanks, guess I didn't understand that room yet then
you can 100% do tan's room with just the statues. I don't know if you need [spoiler]wings or not[/spoiler]
Finally beat the true ending, now to piece together the lore connections to zeroranger. I was waiting for black onion for so long that I wasn't looking forward to this game, I was so wrong to doubt the team, great time. NOW GIVE ME BLACK ONION
uhhh do I? I got a perfect
WHERE ARE THE GREY PAIZURI PICS
How are your 0stRanger If practice runs going anons? You DO want to clear it and unlock the soundtest brand, don't you?
Free unlock for you, strangers.
You didn't unlock it
Thanks but no thanks bro, i WILL repeat monotonous monochrome rooms for 2 more hours to view one more thing i missed ad infinitum
I hope you know that's not gonna help you unlock that
>can't practice the last few phases
Frick this game
It's pretty bullshit but I'm glad I can at least practice the phase where it splits in two because that's what's fricking me over the most.
what does it mean
do I need all the crystals?
It's a mural brand. Where do those go anon?
>Tail doesn't have Ninnie's face if you come back after finishing Ninnie's story
Lame
Finding something cute=/=falling in love
Yeah but it doesn't have to not mean it either
a cute
>1st time through, get Void ending
>hear the song at the end
>2nd time through, trying to not die this time
>realize the first area has the leitmotif of the ending song
>oh, that's neat
>8th attempt in a row to not fricking die this time
>my grievance is miiiiine
>my SADNESS IS MIIIIINE
I'm gonna get it this time, I swear
Just use the thing you get for beating a VOIDed run.
If you're talking about the infinity brand, it keeps fricking me. First time I tried it, I got teleported to the secret ending. Next two times, it teleported me 10-20 floors, and then my brand was gone, leaving me to die anyway. Now I'm just gonna stockpile every locust I can, and hit the biggest warp I can when they force you at 143. Then just pray I can slip through with minimal frickups.
There's another place to enter a brand anon. I admire your devotion though.
Then don't fricking use the shortcuts and you'll be able to keep your infinity all the way through.
Is there another way to get around the giant head then? Do you have to drop out the floor around them or something?
Oh... you still have a lot to learn then. [spoiler]You should try showing your cool staff too the giant head.[/spoiler]
yes
You can use your rod infront of her or
[spoiler]you can look at the murals as you go through the area and take note of the brands entered on them. then pay attention to rooms that seem to stand out from others and remind you of the brands and then put 2 and 2 together[/spoiler]
I thought the trailer was supposed to imply that gray made a deal with cif to gain strength in exchange for her womb
Aster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84o9ik6b2RI
You know I'm starting to think I won't be able to finish this game before the threads die
Don't worry I'll probably create some more threads in the future when I inevitably get stuck again or something.
>tfw can't read 80% of the posts yet
Each npc has a special ending during the credits if you talk to them, does anyone have a video, not opening this game again
Bee.
>Bee and Cif died never knowing Add had come back
Rough
Cif definitely knew.
Prior to her fight if you're Lillie:
>This child...
To think you'd turn them into your pawn as well.
You must be desperate.
I will not allow it.
If you were to let that child perish with you...
All your sacrifices would've been for nothing.
but why then? Wouldn't Cif want to support Add and what she's doing and trust her? Somehow Cif knew that Lev was alive too and wants to stop her as well so why stop Add/Lillly/Grey?
I don't think her or Bee had a choice in the matter even if they did understand what was going on. They aren't able to disobey a direct order from DIS to stop the intrusion.
Add wants to destroy DIS and Cif is also loyal to DIS for whatever reason.
She knows it's Add on both routes. On Gray's route she says she won't go easy on Gray out of sentimentality, and when you beat her the hard way on both routes she says this:
>I wasn't able to burn as bright as you.
Hah...
You got me.
...
Thank you for the fond memories.
Farewell, Add.
I think she just knew Lillie wasn't acting on her own. She spied on Gray and Lillie for Lillie's whole life and didn't seem to ever catch on to Add possessing Gray
Why did add even hide away? Why have a part of her outside?
Fell in love with a mortal. Probably the queen based on Tail's face and wanted to take care of Lily
That was AFTER she left
I'm thinking the original purpose was so she could force her way into DIS as an outsider, since it seems void lords are incapable of accessing the core unless it lets them.
Unironically expect a third game to explain the story.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fxz-Sl9PrMZidt7a73A4cQMZfEZS1gs6hlhGyKZ6JRA/edit
What would the 3rd game even be?
1st ones a shmup
2nd ones a puzzle game
3rd is ???
Dating Sim
>super secrets
Guess I'm not done with the game after all.
I swear there is shit we probably have found
was this made by the discord or something?
Some of the statements seem a little off or are missing stuff that's been discussed here in the threads but the rest seems pretty accurate
Huh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devanagari#Numerals
Is Mon's statue quote really unknowable? Don't you get a chance to get face to face with it in the DIS room with the eight statues you need to dispose of in order?
It's a mimic that pushes those ones. Precisely because you can't push Mon's statue yourself.
If you're adjacent to Mon's statue then you're in its LoS, so you're already dead before you have a chance to talk.
oh right, I forgot, I thought the effects were disabled for that room
My biggest conclusion from this is that not a single soul in these threads had ever read Dante's Inferno.
Have you? Being old doesn't automatically make a book actually good. It's 98% garbage that requires so many liner notes to understand who anyone is, it's unironically the better experience to read a summary
Huuuh
A rock just gave me like a 20 number string, the actual frick?
What the frick, where
Its random, found it two times actually during my entire 60 hour playthrough, it actually gives you four strings that, each one increasing one number.
5470041062466101
5470041062466102
5470041062466103
5470041062466104
It's been there a loooooooooong time if its been counting in sequence
It's counting...
????
>msc_beesong
Why didn't the include such a banger in the soundtrack?
I really wish Ganker would let me delete my own posts.
you did newbie-kun
So which route is more canon, Dis shutting down or just regular play
They're all canon because of time shenanigans.
Instead of taking the stairs at the end of Cif, I fell through the hole and had a nice beach ending. Is it worth to go through Cif again to go down the stairs? Will I get a different ending?
You'll get a brief glimpse at her birth via memory tree instead.
You made the right call, stairs just spit you back into the normal floors unceremoniously.
You don't need to go through the funhouse for that.
You can find the NPC from Cif's run as Gray and Lillie? The actual frick?
I found her in Mon's funhouse as Gray. She didn't seem to have anything important to say though.
Kinda made me wish you could extract the whole game script or something, so much shit hidden.
Jonnah apparently sends everyone to the Void, which explains why Lily father is there and the bandit.
Also ,does anyone know what happens to each npc on the true ending credits
>Lily's Father
Is he the guy you see near the end of Lillith's run that got upset about your hair? Did it imply he thought she was Lily at first until he realized she wasn't?
Yeah, and then probably realizes she is her grand daughter and starts laughing, like everything turned out for best despite all his frick ups. Really curious how his post game credit scene looks
I didn't get a scene for him or anyone Lillie specific
I suddenly dont understand anything and am currently casting sincere doubt on the laughable insinuation that I or anyone else ever actually did for even a single moment
Presumably that's just who they were before DIS got hijacked by GO.
Yeah I still don't get why the void lords are modeled after the science team either. I get like 2/3 of what's going on but not that. We know Add came from the comet (LILITH) which crashed into DIS so maybe she modeled them after the remains of humans she saw nearby.
How many times?
I saw the first bunch and told myself there's no way I'll fall for that. That's what I told myself.
Insta esc press for me. Wasnt paying attention to it once, jesus christ frick the devs
3 on accident but the 3rd one I was able to ESC out in time
This game was made by two people, whats your excuse anon.
I can't draw
I don't have another friend to back me up. I have nothing of value to offer either, just another glorified ideas guy.
I'm not Finnish.
Did i got here too early?
Too late actually, how bothersome
I'm going to fricking kill myself.
This room is stupid easy anon.
no wings or sword
Still stupid easy, I just did the route in 20 seconds by just looking at it. Just stall for moves
I'm sorry, Anon, but I really can't do it. I feel like I've tried everything but I just can't fund the winning move
What the frick only a simple memory remains means.
I'm gonna go do hard mode without items!
I activated my infinity brand, then in my run I accidentally activate the reset in floor 190++ something, so do anyone got a whole skipped list for the floors
The skipped amount is random.
meaning if im in infinity brand, if i skipped using the locust, it just transferred me to random floor, after that if I died i literally start a new game back?
Hold space, type HELLME (not a typo, it's hell not help)
For the list, press L.
Thanks a ton, anon! I'll go ahead and delete my post because I actually meant to spoiler there being a DEBUG at all
cute
I want to get her to take a bath
The cutest
Cute rape baby
Just died against the IF boss's last attack. I'm so close.
A bell tolls for you.
I started Cif again, but it won't let me leave. Even the spicy staircases don't work. Is there a way to escape?
At least I did get to the end and got to see all the Void Lords as babies.
Besides the beach ending?
Carcass.
Ah thanks. Fatty horns into the void again! I'm not sure what the carcass refers to, so I'll aim for the beach ending again. Thank goodness I wrote down the solution to some of those Mon floors.
Not sure what you mean by all that anon.
>I'm not sure what the carcass refers t
pick up the B in your hud. Follow the spooky noise. The gong is the same as the gong you hear when you pick up the cube, so hit six times and wait six seconds.
Simply suicide enough times to trigger egging yourself. You are on 1.0.4, right?
https://mega.nz/file/drYVSQZZ#Efe33TyzpxO2UsNnTXUfkcgXF6y7PF3stPQbRoCkXvM
I actually bought it, what's wrong woth 1.0.5?
1.0.5 isn't the problem: the functionality was just added in 1.0.4, so it wouldn't be present on earlier pirated versions.
that game over wasn't added until 1.0.2 or so. before that, only spicy staircases could save you
Does anyone have the video for this? I've never seen it happen for me and last I left the game was fricking around in the debug mode and accidentally warping myself to Lillie's ending and I can't be fricked to wait it out.
Got annoyed when I saw you get locked into some gay aids playthrough if you die and the only way to not die is to play near perfect for a gorillion levels and there's no undo or true save/load so if you accidentally bump an npc woops see you next playthrough
i get annoyed when i believe false information too
you don't have to do all that
A void run is the intended experience for a first run with a number of hints about how to make things easier only being given later. Plus it's kino end sequence.
>the intended experience for a first playthrough is to die
frick
why am i so fricking good at puzzle games
Hey, at least you're not me.
>literally fell into a pit on floor 2 without even trying to frick around with the staff
Why am I so fricking bad at puzzle games?
Is Void Stranger the Evangelion of video games?
2236 A.D. is the Evangelion of video games
Nah, that's hellsinker.
Can I get a tip on which room the Bee's Hole Picross is leading to? I went through all 225 levels and couldn't find a match, is it in one of B??? rooms? It's the final crystal i am missing.
217
thanks anon
one last question
how do I access debug mode? i went through pretty much everything else in the game
Never did it myself but apparently
thanks a bunch
I want to grab _Cif's FAT horns
Does anything actually happen if you admit guilt for jiggling? I will never admit guilt, but I will never not jiggle
You will actually get a (sort of) punishment, the sound of pushing objects around gets replaced with the sound of jiggling tiddies.
No but they call you very based for admitting to being a pevert,
also what
said considering he just made me realize why the sound sounded different suddenly, didn't even lay the connection.
Getting To Your Manager is the best song in the game.
Ive completed the first ending and ive figured out some of the seal stuff but the game isnt gripping me I feel like it takes too long to get through things without some sort of level select Am i just getting filtered?
I picked it up cause I love the mulana games but this feels like it falls way short when you arent working on a secret
>without some sort of level select
It's not perfect but there are a lot of shortcuts and teleports and in particular one specific floor can get you almost anywhere.
I know about the locust skip and the infinite locust boost but is there a proper level select? Go ahead and tell me cause Im gonna drop the game without one its such a pain to staircase myself to death
I started save scumming to get around as I got new info.
I already spoiled the solution but what is the logic behind the tail room statue? How are you supposed to figure that one out? I visited the tail mural room etc. but if only talks about brands
It's explained to you in the appropriate brand room.
There's no proper level select. You can enter any brand in any room where it fits, and I think it's possible to enter all but one of the brands on B053, so it's a quick shortcut to any area of the game.
That aside, there's plenty you can do with finite locust skips, UI manipulation and the six shortcuts that Mon sells, but they're more specific - the first two make getting to B053 very quick, though.
If Tail is still alive (and maybe some other condition I can't remember off the top of my head?) you can see the seal and interact with it, which then proceeds to tell you the solution.
You can use any brand in any 6x6 room and it'll immediately warp you to the corresponding realm. For example, in the second realm you can enter Tan's brand which will immediately warp you forward by about 90 floors. There's also the fact that UI tiles count as regular floor tiles and work as you'd expect, and once you get the items you can just complete floors in five seconds each.
Thanks anon, I guess I was missing memory cube first time there and it's not visible on Cif route so that explains why I couldn't figure it out.
>Black folk reading every spoiler and unlocking stuff out of order are now complaining about game being boring
[Full] Void Stranger 1.0.5 [CLONECD][AnonDelivers]
https://mega.nz/file/Qm4TCQpR#N8bTwFt0_asYsEmuP5w0KH9aZIWwPC2glpkHH2OTXYk
These are the kinds of games you should be buying, I know not everyone has the money and it's always better to have more people play it any means necessary, but throwing a buy at it if and when you can, even if it's years later makes these kinds of games happen
It's a direct copy from my steam installation, like all previous versions. Without me posting the link in one of the first threads accompanying with snake breasts most likely we wouldn't get those theads. Also plenty of anons bought if after trying it according to the replies.
nice justification but no one asked
Wasn't necessarily aimed at you, seems like the kinds of people that dig this sorta thing are also pirates and teens and poor and whatever, so just putting it out there.
I assume this only because these are the only places I ever see actually talk about this sorta thing
Any changes to 0st in this version?
It added damage indicators to Lev's balls: they crack as they take damage.
what is the intended progression after the voided ending? or does it not matter
Hinges on you noticing the design that is shoved in your face and getting the void memory, then the rocks can start telling you shit
Ive been following the rocks advice but I feel like im somehow on the wrong path or rather ahead of where im supposed to be
Wait, you're supposed to get an ending to get the void memory? I got it on my first run
Nah, the game just spells it out to you if you didn't notice it the first time around. I got it on my very first run as well because of how incredibly obvious the first mural was.
very impressed by how you clearly figured that our on your own the first time on a blind run, very cool dude
Chill, I wasn't trying to humblebrag, I just kind of stumbled into it by chance
God damn, so smart and cool and popular
Try again unvoided. Talk to the very first rock behind the very first chest to get a massive hint that makes the game much, much easier in the long run.
Do items like the memory carry over if you die without voiding?
If you die and refuse the fruit, you're given the opportunity to start with any items that you've previously found.
I haven't been given this opportunity
You have, you just DIDN'T READ THE GIANT TEXT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN
When you're back on title screen for every item you found on the previous runs it gives you a brand you need to draw twice before your own to start with that item
Twice? The 'are you sure' is asking you to do it again? Frick off, that's moronic
anon...
Ok, I'm moronic too, but the requirement is still moronic. Why twice, what's the point
So that people discovering the relevant brands by accident are given the opportunity to show that they know what they're doing (= are capable of entering the same brand they just randomly drew a second time), is my guess. It does slow things down a little for people who already absolutely know what they're doing with their unlocked New Game brands.
Post yfw there's a safety locker
Is there a gallery of all the brands? I want to try playing on hard
What do you mean, all of the brands you unlocked are shown on the title screen
I meant the floor brands
If you meant the designs that appear then here you go
You unlock hard mode by completing Gray without voiding. Just complete the tutorial anon, come on.
easiest way to skip floors is fricking with the UI in a tree room
everytim
Every floor I run into these shadow frickers
Imagine if you could turn in place like that
My own clone! Now both of us will have children!
You should open the pause menu while taking to one.
DIS is kicking my ass. I can't get rid of all the enemies unless I use the sword, but if I use the sword the Lev statures make it impossible to build a bridge to the stairs. I can make the evangelion cube collide with the lolwut pear, but not without creating shadow people, which count as enemies, so I can't build a bridge either. What the frick.
You have to do this room with no sword, it's possible
You'll have to do this swordless.
First on your hitlist is the diamond
The two blobs at the top and middle of the screen should be next to go, the one to the far right is the last one of the blobs to go.
Is there any way to restart without using the black statues? I missed what I was aiming for and now I'm stuck in puzzles way above my competence level.
In a tree room
Remove the brane number from the UI, the left side that starts with B. This will place you in the black void. Turn your volume up and listen closely for a sound, it gets louder the closer you get. The source of the sound is a giant alien egg. Boink it six times and then stand still for six seconds.
By the time I get to a tree room I've most likely already found a floor with the easy way to do it. Oh well time to muster up every braincell I have to beat this floor.....hard mode really lives up to its name when you have no items.....
Do the Egg thing regardless for ending and extra lore.
If you're truly stuck, repeatedly suicide in the same way to get a continue screen.
Oh I didn't know that was a thing. Well if I can't solve it maybe I'll end up having to do that. If I do that will it return me all the way back to playing as Gray or will it restart me as....whoever it is you play as after? I did notice that answering no when you get voided is different from using a black statue, so I guess a continue is similar.
Am I supposed to even know about the egg thing yet? I haven't even finished hard mode so there's still a lot of the game left for me.
Dunno, I have no idea if the game even tells you. If I remember there is an egg that tells you about removing the brane number, idk.
>Am I supposed to even know about the egg thing yet?
All of the hints for it can be found in the Gray playthrough, you're not going to be taught about it explicitly
You're always supposed to find out about it yourself, but one of the brand rooms contains a hint about removing the brane value and in something that you definitely haven't yet reached, a certain character will have a shadow guide her to the carcass instead of needing to follow the music manually.
It will completely end your run and force you to start over. However, once you get reset you'll receive a bunch of special brands you can input in the brand painting screen to start with items or characters you've already seen, so you'll essentially get to start over from the beginning of whatever run you left off from.
Is there something I'm missing wandering around the void? The soud gets louder but isn't giving me any direction, and it doesn't seem like I'm getting closer
The map is really really big so you might have to run around for a while
Change the movement from tap to hold in the settings to spare your finger
Is it both noises? The rumbling, and the whirring?
Yeah, they're both a part of the same spooky ambience that comes from a single spot. The sound is emitted in a diamond shape with the granularity of entire rooms, you'll want to find where the sound peaks on one axis and then just hit the other axis the same way, once you think you've found the maximum then just go in a spiral until you find it.
One of the noises is a red herring
Frick that was annoying, got it
FRICKING FINALLY
>all these snake bits in the second area
Do these connect? Do I need to start screenshotting every floor like a puzzle piece?
That has been the hint that anons have been giving, and also if you have the cube and talk to rocks then two of them tell you that the "tail holds the key to the brand" or something similiar
whats a Pr***D****
Primadonnas
Better question. Why was it censored? It's not a color
Devs being cheeky would be my guess
It's a brand name, and there's no sponsorship.
It's also funny that there's inevitably hundreds of men playing the game who end up confused because they just don't have a clue what is being talked about.
Do companies really care if you drop their brand names unsolicited? It's free advertising. Besides, this is an obscure cryptic indie game.
Most probably don't care, but it's still good manners to avoid involving others without their permission in professional matters (as in, wherever money is changing hands, like selling media products such as vidya). The name being "censored" at least gives the impression that it's not an official endorsement or anything.
Here's a better question: what's a ******?
>******
ORANGE
Needs to be a clenched fist instead
what exactly do I do in 0stranger?
what is a muteki?
Beat high score to unlock hard mode, then beat hard mode
Muteki is invincibility
He did it again
what game do i play now
There's genuinely no other game like this.
You can play La Mulana or Environmental Station Alpha if you didn't already but they're much more conventional in their design.
Outer Wilds
Rain World
Return of the Obra Dinn
I have tried and failed to get into rain world like 3 times, guess it's time for another go
Zeroranger
0stRanger
Question about NG+ish stuff I have 3 items and unlocked Lilith and found out about brand selection. Is a voided run a new end again or should I just try and stomp new floors with these Burdens?
For ng+ it does not matter if you are voided or not. Burdens make the floors not impossible tho, I recommend using them. You are not going to stomp the floors even with burdens, the floors are designed around you having all items. Itemless run is possible but it's often compared to CBT.
Cool cool. That's basically what I was wondering, didn't want to feel like I was cheating something but I guess I indeed have these tools for a reason. So then infinite lives is also fine to use?
Don't use the infinity brand. Unless you really want those gems, but they are mostly postgame completionist stuff. Having infinity will cuck you out of locust teleporting, you wont be able to find Cifs brand (crucial for entering DIS) and you also can't avoid killing Gor without a random teleport. (You want Gor alive, so you can talk to her later as another character for extra lore)
Okay that is also approx. what I was thinking. Thanks.
If he has the sword, chances are Gor is also dead already unless he went for some stupid non-obvious shenanigans.
There is no telling if he hit the egg or not
There's no reason not to use it unless you need numbered locusts to hit some of the specific warps. You will feel like you're cheating with some of the levels being suspiciously easy because everything is tuned for burdenless, but honestly there's no shame in it because it really does get assblastingly difficult. You can give it a shot at will btw, turn off the burdens in the menu and see how far you get before you have to reach for some help.
Infinity brand is a trap. Every time you can access the UI you can match your locust count to the floor number and die a single time to stay on that floor.
Wait, so if you die it resets the brane number and you can continue with stolen numbers? Lmao
The other guy is wrong, the floors are designed around having no items (except memory) and you will feel like you're skipping the level if you use them. But you can just turn them off.
>the floors are designed around you having all items.
I disagree
Voided doesn't matter as Lillie. The only downside is that you won't be able to collect any gems. But the endings are the same.
WHAT DOES IT MEAN
Take a screenshot of the layout anon. You'll find out soon.
FOR THE LAST TIME WHAT ARE THE CONDITIONS FOR THE ESCORT QUEST TO HAPPEN?
I got it on my first run with all 3 item brands. I didn’t skip any floors in any way so it’s probably that.
I only bee'b myself one floor to skip the fricking bull horseman. Was that enough to remove the quest? Lame
No, I did skips on both of my NG+ runs and I still got it on both, it should happen early-ish into Lev's domain. Maybe it's that I was unvoided on both times?
I think you also have to be a good person.
I was also not voided, forgot to mention that. Didn’t use the infinity brand either.
Didn’t kill any npcs either if that’s what this means
justice is saved across all playthroughs, if your justice score actually matters then you might have to go do a few runs that make yourself a better person. Easy way would be to go to court and admit guilt
Just dont be voided, thats it.
Which BGM is a remix of Despair's theme?
The first instance where it appears that you'll likely hear the motif is in Dancing Lesson - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDsMYjM6ytk. Later, in the endgame, when you reunite with Lily in DIS, you get a clearer version of the flute solo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuu6Kkd0TtE.
Also Gray's Ringtone
https://www.youtube.com/live/WgyEK8bu3rk?si=fdf62B9IWN3ftp98&t=4461
I hope Lily is the main protagonist of their next game
wtf man b152 hard mode
I am a filtered brainlet
What I end up doing is getting them in the middle column on either side, pick up the center, then bait them onto the buttons using the wings
>there's still void stranger threads going
Neat, I guess
Anons can't solve the puzzles without a thread going
but it's always the same puzzles Anons get stuck at!
and there's always new anons getting stuck, the ones who got helped before stick around and pass on the knowledge
I hope this game spreads though word of mouth.
everytime I go outside I scream VOID STRANGER
so I'm sure it'll get popular soon enough
>he doesn't scream into the void
ngmi
everyone in the void probably already knows about the game
I'm completely new to this game (I know it's risky to be in this thread) I beat the game with VOID as my lives and have reset and I'm now going for the crystals. I stumbled upon the puzzle with making a square room match the brand and accidentally moved onto the UI in a tree room but decided not to mess with them yet. Am I supposed to just frick around with things via pattern recognition to solve the game's mysteries or does the game give progress/hints to do it sequence by sequence the more you play? I want to basically know if I'm skipping things by fricking around with this or if I'm meant to just frick around when I feel like it because both of these were pure coincidence.
It's never too early to frick around with shit as long as you're not looking anything up outside of the game.
Crystals are extremely unimportant.
The murals can and should be done as soon as you notice them
Frick me, really? I've been scouring 200 floors for no reason? That seems weird, surely the game would be like "ok, you did it infinite lives, now do it limited" and go from there?
>"ok, you did it infinite lives, now do it limited" and go from there?
There is literally nothing wrong with doing this, and it is the main intended route but you can make your life easier by starting to explore for other possibilities alongside it as you go.
You need to reach the bottom alive, yes, what does it have to do with crystals.
>I stumbled upon the puzzle with making a square room match the brand and accidentally moved onto the UI in a tree room but decided not to mess with them yet. Am I supposed to just frick around with things via pattern recognition to solve the game's mysteries or does the game give progress/hints to do it sequence by sequence the more you play?
The game gives a lot of hints, some later rather than sooner, but there are very few outright sequence breaks, especially since you've already reached SAFETY LOCKER. In general, If you're finding murals, you should try to make use of them, and the final memory of a VOID run is intended to be the most blatant hint to set you on that path (and lead you to the cube), while messing with the UI is a general tool and can and should be done whenever convenient, since you've discovered it. There are some more blatant hints towards your ability to do it (and perhaps specific things that you can try) later, but they're hardly required.
So I'm a brainlet. I decided not to use the Infinity brand because I assume it will be a double-edged sword. What is the hint in the final memory? When it shows the brand? | What's SAFETY LOCKER? I assume the area where the vocal track plays as the lyrics say it?
I might do another VOID run and pay more attention lol
You're free to use the infinity brand, but since you've discovered that you can mess with your UI, you'll find that there are fun things to be done with a finite locust count, and there's one specific point in the game where if you don't meet a certain condition, having the infinity brand can cause you problems.
The big hint was the brand from the first mural showing up in the memory, yes, and SAFETY LOCKER is the vocal track (and a shorthand for the Voided sequence that it accompanies in general).
I assume I can 'swap certain values' I shall say. I want to try zero but again, I feel like I shouldn't yet
Won't it mess with the statues? Especially the room with the head? That's what stopped me when I paused to think
>I feel like I shouldn't
Again, there is no such thing as doing something too early in this game unless you're some kind of puristgay. You won't really get locked into some alternative route if that's what you're afraid of.
Not if you solve the murals
And if you don't you'll lose the infinity but theoretically still can salvage the run
You're fine, you can just keep going with infinity, it counts as reaching the bottom alive
>I beat the game with VOID
There are multiple hints in the first playthrough for both brands and UI manips you should be exploring both by now
>I know it's risky to be in this thread
It's risky to be anywhere. I fricking googled the game's name and got spoiled.
It's easy to feel a bit disoriented and lost on what you're really supposed to be doing after the first Voided clear, but I get the impression that that's by design. But as long as you have some leads for trying new things (like the couple things you mentioned), you're never going to be really stuck in the game. If you already collected the Void Memory by solving the first domain's brand, you're going to get showered in new information that should help you along your way.
This void's looking pretty suspicious
This game really wants me to read Inferno
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dis_(Divine_Comedy)
How?
Pick up a tile and put it on the left hole, push snek statue to the right to fill the gap, push bottom snek statue to the top button, leave the inner circle and push top demon statue down
I'm worried for you anon, that's one of the easiest DIS floors.
Thanks. BUT NOW THE GAME HAS SENT ME BACK LIKE 5 FLOORS
There's another room like this
Don't ask how I know
Sorry I forgot about the thing that eus statures can do
Why haven't you gotten to the end of the Debug Area yet?
Am I supposed to recognize the Judge's face when their mask is removed? The game seemed to make a big deal out of it.
Yes
Time to play Zeroranger
Nah, it makes no sense even if you recognize her
Erasure ane Green Orange were removed from the timeline at the end of zero ranger and ended up here. Simple
what was the message in this room? I skipped it by mistake and only started solving the ones after. fricking the first one up wont change anything, right?
No I think you're fine. Basically Gray's friend (I forgot her name) explaining to Lillith what happened when she first met Gray and her raising her:
>she sees Gray in the road like we see
>Gray's friend is pregnant at the same time, tries to help Gray out
>her friend helps her get set-up and they become friends, helping her with real life stuff
>the doctors noticed Gray doesn't even have the ability to give birth, like her system to do so has been completely cleanly removed from her, they don't know what to think of it
>Gray never tells her friend what happened to her dad but tells her that basically Gray isn't the mother, but won't tell what happened to the mother either (if I'm remembering correctly)
>her friend assures Lillith that Gray loved her like her own mother even if it seemed like she was tough on her it was out of love
I think that was all of it.
Any tips for 0stranger?
Do the Picross murals change randomly? I have 4 instances of the same one screenshotted in different playthroughs and there seems to be 2 variations. What gives?
I don't get it? What seems to be the difference?
These are all of the same mural in the first shortcut, on floor 37. I just used different names for the files. I thought the variation would be exclusive to ng+ but I ended up seeing both in there anyway.
but anon
the first shortcut is not on floor 37
Wtf I have no idea how I got that confused. I have a headache right now so maybe I should take a break.
>first shortcut
>on floor 37.
The first skip is on floor _7 though
They don't change but there are several of them
you want to get big multipliers by letting a lot of israeliteels around. Destroying a israeliteel with your shots will turn the projectiles on screen into medals, absorbing a israeliteel makes you temporarily invincible
What do the five orbs next to "start simulation" mean? I also see them on the bottom right when playing
Kill counter. Every 5 kills spawns one orb
Ohhh makes sense, thanks.
Is there a point to doing Mon's Funhouse as Grey or Lillie & DIS as Lillie or Cif?
>Mon's Funhouse as Grey or Lillie
Ballbusting you also meet the cute NPC girl at the end but she doesn't say anything important
>DIS as Lillie or Cif
Lillie has a slightly different ending, Cif can't enter DIS but gets a "joke" ending if you unlock the super rod seals as Lillie, don't take it, and go to B000 with Cif
>get to B157 in NG+
>"hm, wonder if anything is different if i do these again"
>get spit out to floor 71 or something
Oh goddammit dude.
?
Why did that happen. I don't have all the floors memorized
It's the mural puzzle for the wings. I forgot it would do something like that. My first two runs were two weeks ago.
I'm sure you'll be able to harness this newfound power.
Seems like it could be handy later but I was trying to do a story run-through so I feel a bit owned for the night. Well, no harm in starting disgaea 7.
If the brands can frick you, maybe they can unfrick you
Does the game ever give you any sort of nudge or hint to frick with the UI?
Yes.
Is it a rock dialogue
Yeah, in Gor's room. The rock is also placed where you can push it onto the UI
It just kinda dawned on me once I got to the floor without walls. Were some of those even solvable without it?
Every non-DIS stage is solvable without using the UI
It makes a number of rooms in Cif's domain easier but it's never essential until DIS.
I randomly did it early on in a tree room.
Though I didn't figure out any of the practical functions until much later.
Any other games where this is an element?
Baba is You
One of the B030 floors has this, I think it's b36 it's the one with the three maggots and a lot of glass tiles. The bottom right corner has a very distinctly different look than the rest of the wall and that's because it's a single tile you can walk on and enter the HUD.
ugh I didnt reset after doing the lilith ending and now gor was already dead in my cif run. is the interaction any good?
Cif refuses to kill Gor
I'll have to do it all again who knows what else I missed out on
She can't do it anyway
Just checking before I move on - is there anything to miss when you pick up the infinity symbol in a tree room? The fact that it doesn't force quit itself makes feel like I'm missing something
I mean in the UI, if you pick up the infinity on the locusts in a tree room it does a unique spaz out to a "negative infinity" screen, is there anything of worth there
i solved the picross at the ??? floor you run into during the first teleport but I'm not sure what it means other than a floor layout with a hidden crystal somewhere I guess???
That would be right
What actually triggers the shortcut hint trader to show up?
You having a certain amount of locusts irc
Specific locust counts on specific floors.
Using the damaged brand with binary will let you find pic related.
You need a specific amount of locusts at a specific floor. For more information, see Mon's mural room.
Help? Hints? Shortcuts? It's all yours my friend, just as long as you have enough Locusts.
that B040 tho
what happens when you reach the end of the dungeon with cif instead of fighting mon?
kinda cant be assed trying it myself this game doesnt fricking end.
Just a memory tree with a short scene about Cif's birth and the chubby schoolgirl talking about you missing something.
sounds interesting. should do that too.
I can not figure out how to set B053 up, it's driving me crazy. I've got the screenshot of the only mural that actually works in there from floor 169 but I can't get it right and I'm out of locusts
Have you found Bee's second gift yet? I wouldn't bother until then.
Normally you set those things up in rooms AFTER the hint, not before
any way to see which crystals I'm missing? not gonna bother when there's no tip I've spent enough time in these halls already
there's some anon who posted a list of every crystal he had minus 1, you can look at his list and cross reference it with yours and find what's missing
but how am I meant to know which ones I already have? I didnt memorize every single one I have picked up over dozens of hours.
enter debug and hit l
Oh they're leeches. I thought they were snakes
I just started - how many locusts should I feed the skinny brown man on 70?
as many as you want :^)
You should leave this thread and not ask things you don't actually want an answer to since it'd instantly spoil ten other things.
All of them of course ;^)
If you don't know how much you want to give him then none of them, those guys are just there so you can reduce your Locust count and nothing happens with them no matter how much you feed them.
Feeding them also raises your karma value.
what happens if you pick the stairs instead of the hole?
You just go back to the normal labyrinth floors a bit after where you entered that section
You just return to the main area. If you go there as other characters the hole will be blocked off by Cif statues.
So this game has added to my list of paranoid actions to take in every game
>move to the left of the screen at the start of the level
>input the konami code whenever possible
>check out the "no" option during the first game launch dialog if it exists
>check suspicious corners for secrets
>try to check if the hud can be interacted with
I'm moronic and sick with a stomach bug. Can anyone post on how to get the X and chest on B80?
Can you post the floor?
You are taking screenshots, aren't you?
>You are taking screenshots, aren't you?
No. Should I start doing that?
Have you tried moving the stairs?
Whenever you see something cryptic yet important sounding you should probably take a screenshot.
>No. Should I start doing that?
Unless you've been placing down the murals on graph sheets, yes.
Hint for the X you can grab stairs like you can any other tile.
My bad, replied early. Actual solution because I know how difficult this game can be with a stomach illness
left, left, down, grab.
up,left,left, down, left, right, place
The rest should be easy, just bait the bull around while you move the stairs to an empty spot(the one to the right of the opened chest) and replace it with a solid tile, bait the bull around again and place a tile in the left corner, grab the X. You then can bait the bull to move to the left, slip around him and go get the chest, and then go back to the stairs without dying.
First move should be left left left, my bad.
>Unless you've been placing down the murals on graph sheets, yes
Oops. Haven't done this at all. I thought it was one of those things where you gain the knowledge to read them after finishing the game once.
Monster keeps killing me when I grab the tile after going down.
Let me rethink it. The only way I see this working is to fill the middle glass tile with a solid and then using that 3 tile line to bait the bull while placing the tiles you want in the places you want.
So I guess the start would be left left right, grab, left, down, up, left left, down, left, right, place and then go from there?
another fricking left missing. Let me draw it on the map.
Thank you. That helped and I managed to beat it.
Looking for a gentle nudge in the right direction
I've finished the game twice, onece voided once not voided. I've learned two shortcuts, did some fricking around with locusts, I Have the void memory and an incantation for a void sword but don't have the slightest idea where and how to do the incantation. I've just died as white haired girl in harder versions of the earlier levels, should I push ahead as this new character or should I be doubling back as Gray and figuring out the sword thing?
I mainly ask because the first couple of these new puzzles fricking stumped me, and if I"m not careful I'll butt my head against a wall over and over and get sick of the game before figuring I should be backtracking
>gentle nudge
Going through hardmode without bees gifts is best compared to CBT.
You're taking Gor too literally. Think about how you acquired the cube anon. Look at the room, do you notice anything strange about it?
I don't know who Gor is yet, but I'm guessing that's the giant head that gave me the incantation/riddle and asked me to kill it with the void sword? Gray then said she doesn't know how to use incantations and the head yelled at me. Frick it the incantation was: "Where nothingness engraves the brand of lord,
Where the path to damnation rests within you,
Place your faith and embrace the void"
I get I need to jump in a hole but fricked if I know where the path to damnation rests wihin me, I was thinking something about the song at the end of the void ending but then I figured just write it down, press on and something will pop up
>fricked if I know where the path to damnation rests wihin me,
That's telling you that you need to be holding the stairs at the end for the brand to count.
oh. rightio then, not really a riddle just an annoying way to say a thing. Ok I've overthought this a bit
The harder puzzles will be much easier if you go back and get the items you missed. Every mural has a brand room located a few floors later within the same lord's domain, just have to keep an eye out for the room that is 6x6 in size.
For a hint to the location of one, try to solve the third mural. You could grab it on your current run even.
I suck at spoiling. I'll try to be more discreet this time, especially after re-reading your post.
If you have the Void Memory, then that means you know how to get the Sword too. There is a third item in the game that you can also get in a similar manner which will greatly benefit you.
In fact, if you decide to play as the new character, then I strongly advise you to start the game with all the items enabled first before starting as the new character. Her levels are hard as hell and they don't get easier. I've read on here you can beat all her levels without items, but I found some floors near impossible to do so.
Also there is a secret mechanic the game vaguely hints at that you probably haven't discovered yet. You will probably stumble upon it while messing around eventually, especially in the later levels.
Anon-sama, please forgive me
Phoneposter-kun...
I did it. I cleared 0stRanger: If. That was fricking intense.