VR sort of fizzled out. Is it a meme or is there potential for gaming we don't have the technology for yet.
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VR sort of fizzled out. Is it a meme or is there potential for gaming we don't have the technology for yet.
Just because you haven't been paying attention to it doesn't mean it fizzled out
Name 3 great VR games that came out after Alyx
Definitely potential but at least for me the resolution/sde is bad and comfort/sweating is horrendous
'eck on 'ecky
Nobody gave a shit about VR during the COVID times, when people had throwaway cash and were stuck indoors.
It's absolutely a failed gimmick.
Apple will save VR
Last I checked, they don't develop video games.
Some people will pay for the hardware, sure, but you'd have to be a moron to develop for niche hardware.
You know there's other uses for VR other than playing games...right? In my town There's a real estate company that uses it to show off new homes.
I'm aware - you're moronic - learn the difference.
based cardboard manufacturers for recognizing a gimmick industry deserves gimmick hardware
>failed gimmick
I wouldn't say it failed, really. Like what are the expectations really for a $1000 kit? Everyone home in America to have one? The Quest 2's pricing was more approachable, but entirely synthetic with Meta/Facebook trying to get their foot in the door and accepting it as a loss leader...which still baffles me why they had the Facebook account restriction. Even still, that's rivaling a gaming console and isn't an insignificant purchase. That's a really high barrier to entry for such a niche ecosystem and IMHO manufacturers were aware of that and just needed to get the ball rolling to allow the VR space to start developing.
The technology itself also definitely isn't a gimmick. A lot of the "games" released for it absolutely are gimmicky, but you can have serious experiences with it and it's not out of place for gaming in the slightest. I think what they really need to work on now is funding good, quality, VR titles to give people the reason to spend money on the gear.
This is another good point. You can still make good sitdown VR experiences though, which ultimately I think will end up proving most popular long-term. I have a couple spaces wide enough, but only one with enough ceiling height and I don't want to be haymaker-ing my family as they're walking around in the living room.
This.
But also this. VR doesn't bother me at all, but apparently it really gets some people.
1. 3D movies still exist
2. Porn in VR sucks, and not in a good way
3. A headset isn't anywhere in the same ballpark as any prior pseudo-3D technology.
>I'm puzzled why they aren't porting games
Honestly good point. With as many remakes/remasters are being done, it wouldn't take much more effort for many games to just get a simple VR camera and would actually offer new/different gameplay than just reskins. That's probably the point, though.
>Honestly good point. With as many remakes/remasters are being done, it wouldn't take much more effort for many games to just get a simple VR camera and would actually offer new/different gameplay than just reskins. That's probably the point, though.
Because a large portion of VR users can't handle walking around in VR and they need to teleport everywhere. So now your sudden simple port needs an entirely different movement system which will affect how the game plays.
>So now your sudden simple port needs an entirely different movement system
IMHO it doesn't. It's not a dedicated VR title and is just a refresh of an already-made game, it'd be completely understandable to just offer the basics. To be clear I mean just including VR "as an option" when going through with the remake to begin with, if you were doing "Halo: CE: VR" then yes, sure, it would be expected to actually put time into VR-ifying it. That being said, for some games, teleporting wouldn't be that big of a deal.
Sounds like bullshit, friend. Screens are screens that emit light like light. The only argument I could maybe buy is more screentime instead of time outside might inhibit a kids' vitamin D production which may adversely impact eyes, but that's not an inherent VR problem.
>works for a few niches
It excels in a few, but there's really nothing stopping normie games just offering a VR viewport for many titles. That being said, normies really aren't invested in gaming like actual enthusiasts are so they're not going to be interested in it even if the games are there.
can you stop posting sexy anime characters jfc I'm on nofap and I want to browse SFW boards in peace
I don't know what it is about characters from this show, Black persontoro, and uzaki-chan that look really unappealing. I think it might be how the eyes are drawn. I know a decade ago, if I saw how stupid Becky or Black persontoro looked I'd have the same reaction as seeing this
Nobody has the room for a full VR rig. I'm a homeowner myself but I don't have any rooms in my house wide open enough to justify setting up a headset. Until some company manages to somehow develop a full dive VR experience that you don't need to physically move for, it's dead in the water for most people just due to the space investment. People will drop money on it if they're able to use it, but there's no reason to own a headset if you don't have room for it.
Both this and the simple fact that development is not as simple as flat screen game dev has become. It will take a good game with excellent social push to actually break out into the mainstream and convince people the pros outweigh the cons
Too many people think it has to be a first person experience when some games showed that even just having a borderless view on a third person game can work really well and with millions of fricking games without changing anything but the POV and how the camera works.
Motion sickness
skillpoint issue
That's not a good way to market your medium.
>You're porn addicts.
What does this have to do with anything?
vr will fail because most modern humans are submissive, weak malnourished people with subhuman genes, around 75% of humans without self-aware consciousness and the ability to make judgements. These ‘humans’ are responsible for the worst trends in society. They believe celebrities and governments care about them. They go out in droves to participate in rat lab vaccine testing because an authority demanded they do so.
if you get motion sick from looking at movement on a screen you were meant to die out
your ancestors were not hunters who used their eyes for tracking movements in the brush
you were cattle, sickly peasants who never saw battle and somehow thru generations of inbreeding led to the resulting consumerist mutt that cant look at a monitor without puking with his wittle tummy ache
To me personally it's just about comfort over long periods of time. Make the tech less cumbersome and I'll be on board.
Also, there's still a significant amount of people who get sea sick from playing. That's not something you need to deal with at all with traditional vidya.
Lastly you need quality games. Alyx was great, but I've yet to see any other VR game be as approachable to your average person.
alyx is literally the only vr game i have any interest in playing
I can definitely recommend it. Plays to the medium's strengths and doesn't outstay its welcome.
Not sure if it's worth the price of admission if you have to buy an entire VR setup for it alone, but it really is one of the most memorable vidya experiences I've had.
People didn't want to wear little plastic glasses to watch 3D movies and 3D TVs disappeared. They even turned 3D off on the 3DS. Why people though a bigger, more expensive, and heavier and warmer version of 3D glasses stuck to your face would kick off, is beyond me. But actually, it's not. I know why you morons shilled it so hard. You're porn addicts.
But 3D movies are still around
The puritan larp board is two blocks down the road
Guess how I know you're a porn addict?
Something something he who casts the first stone
Don't be so upset about your coomer tendencies, anon
You've been found out. Everyone with a properly functioning brain knew its usefulness completely disappeared outside of simulators.
You should visit /trash/ and spread the good word. Good luck!
Guess how I know you are an annoying tourist?
Yeah, it's selling poorly because there still are huge swathes of morons like you around who think it's anything like 3D TV, purely based on preconceptions, without ever trying it out.
For some people, it's not possible to grasp what VR is like without trying it and since it has a steep price of admission, it's a hard sell.
>use Oculus for 15 minutes
>realize it's garbage in most use cases and 99/100 people that like VR are consumer prostitutes who get excited for new products and don't ask questions
I belive a VR Spy x Family game where you and Becka are a family like Loid and Yor with Anya. And run your own counter ops against them as your own character. It would be a great game and could revive the VR genre with Becky as your play wife and you have to do real husband and wife things including sharing a bed to keep up appearances as spies.
Thoughts?
Who would be your biggest adversary?
Loid & Co. Would start off as your threat, but later become more like rivals. The real threat is revealed later in the game to be a game exclusive villain Senator pushing for a law that would take your now 3 months pregnant wife Becky from you and Anya from Loid&Yor. You team up to make sure he doesn't get to pass that legislation.
unless porn industry picks up VR it's going to die out
>unless porn industry picks up VR
Should I tell him?
I own a Quest 2 and the Valve Index.
Top tier:
>multiplayer tabletop/turn-based game
It's much much more social than playing on flatscreen. Imo Demeo is currently the best VR game right now simply because of that. If I was a VR dev I would definitely focus on that instead of making yet another shooter.
>space/flight/car sim
Rather simple here, the immersion is simply unbeatable. Only real bad thing is that the screen suck and so does the resolution. Also most of the UI are still done for KB and mouse.
Good tier:
>late 90s/early 00s solo shooters
RE4, Rtcw and HL1 are very fun, Doom 3 is good too. I'm puzzled why they aren't porting games like Thief or Deus Ex because it's just a treat to play.
>MP shooters
Cool. Games like Contractors or Onward are enjoyable. Only downside is that it can be a bit clunky by moments and the fact that you NEED a gun stock to really aim accurately
Shit tier:
>Everything with melee like Gorn, Skyrim VR, Blade and Sorcery
There is 0 feedback, everything feels rubbery/elastic. Just don't waste your money, it's fun 15 minutes and that's it.
>I'm puzzled why they aren't porting games.
For a game developer it's an impossible-to-navigate quagmire to find actual active-userbase counts for VR hardware, so only devs in a position to literally gamble will bother.
If someone buys a Nintendo Switch, a dev can reasonably expect that the owner bought it to play video games - but a VR headset? - good luck trying to math profit/loss out when 10 million headsets shipped could mean 800k gamers.
Whatever telemetry info has been shared with devs behind closed doors has obviously not been very convincing.
I get that's why we're not seeing big budget titles on the platform, but people are making free mods for games that convert them to VR, without source code even. So, for at least some games, if a freelancer can manage it in their spare time with limited resources, it doesn't feel that it should be a large burden for a studio to bear. Then again, the mods are often for newer titles that leverage one of either of the two big engines that have VR support built-in and remakes up until recently have been from an era of games that lacked that. At the very least, adding it to remasters seem like a reasonably safe way to start developing in-house knowledge of the tech without having to invest a whole game on it, and it targets a market that is desperate for real games and not tech demos. I think pretty much all of my favorite VR titles had it added-on to a pancake game that was good to begin with.
>they mean either they want full immersion virtual world
That'd be neat, too, of course, but no, I want more VR like exists today. That's a pretty silly argument like saying "when people say they want realistic graphics, they mean...".
>driving, piloting
Sure they're fine without VR, but they are leagues better with it.
meds
>Sure they're fine without VR, but they are leagues better with it.
Nah, they are leagues better with a full blown arcade rig with wheels, seating, gear shifter, etc. None of that is exclusive to VR. Much rather play a racing game that way with no VR than with a VR headset an just standard controller. Again, VR itself is just strapping a monitor to your face and tricking your brain a little bit.
VR always comes and goes every few years, getting better on each iteration.
It'll probably be back again in like 2028 or some shit with a lot of improvements, slowly die off again and then resurface with ACTUAL VR in like 2035.
VR is a meme.
>Half the userbase thinks standing still and teleporting everywhere is gay, the other half needs to teleport everywhere or else they get sick
>There's some cool games but there aren't any new ones being made that are super cool
>Most of the games are tech demos that are fun for an hour then get boring, because they rely on the VR gimmick and aren't actually good games you'd want to sink 100+ hours in
>A lot of VR communities are a dystopian hellscape where the first thing you see is a scary message about how if anyone reports you for being racist, homophobic, bigoted, or mean to anyone you can get banned and have your entire account closed
>Even with Quest being super convenient and just being something you strap on your head I rather just sit on the touch and play something on the TV
I was really excited to try VR. I never got into a lot of shit because there's globohomosexual threats everywhere about how if you even just make a mistake and offend someone you're getting banned. It stopped me from ever getting involved with any of that stuff. And it's something no one ever talks about. I mean, imagine if every loading screen on Steam had some giant message that popped up before the game loaded about making sure you don't harass or offend anyone or else they'll delete your account.
The biggest problems are some people like the thrill of the motion and some can't handle it and get sick, so there's no way to make games that compromise for both players. Like what happened with Echo VR. One of the best games, shut down for some shitty game you just teleport to pads to.
Second is the dystopian globohomosexual "don't offend anyone ever!" attitude they have in every single fricking loading screen. I don't plan on being an butthole at all but when you're constantly reminded you can misbehave and get banned you realize there's no point investing any time or effort into a game when there's snowflakes who will get offended over the silliest shit.
>there's snowflakes who will get offended over the silliest shit.
Really makes you think.
Is it safe to let kids use VR? I heard it can damage their developing eyes.
Sex with VR e-girls, thoughts?
I think that would lead to a happier world
Not really, it works for a few niches (driving, piloting, exercise, porn), but it's not going to bring in normies which means not enough money for big companies.
VR is a tech that depends on the creativity of the game industry.
That's kinda like making something that depends on the atari jaguar pixel shader capabilities.
There are a lot of cool headsets, but few dedicated actual games that aren't really short indies. Right now, especially with the new Apple headset, VR is mostly aimed towards casual mobile gamers and some people who play simulators.
VR will be real once it reaches SAO levels of immersion, or at least when it allows me to cope with my loneneliness with some immersive and convincing dating simulator/porn games, right now it is just a scam
Cute
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Sex x Becky
When people say they want VR, they mean either they want full immersion virtual world like the Matrix or Star Trek holo room. Modern VR is currently strapping a monitor to your face which can trick your brain a little bit. It's why driving, piloting, exercise, porn, etc all exist perfectly fine without an Cculus
I'd buy VR if I had a house to put it in.
VR is always going to be a gimmick no matter what, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
I tried VR at a friends house and I wasnt too blown away.
its neat as hell but no game makes me really want to drop that dime for it. I dont really like how grabbing stuff and walking felt, I would mostly just use it for shit like among us vr where you get to point while you shit talk
the next big jump in VR will be a game with satisfying movement and mechanics
Really depends on the game and equipment used. I agree the majority of titles don't support the price of admission.
>Nah
Yes?
>they are leagues better with a full blown arcade rig with wheels, seating, gear shifter, etc
You know you can use all that with VR, too, right?
>Much rather play a racing game that way with no VR
That's fine, but most people play racing games with thumbsticks and triggers on their consoles and that's the definitive norm rather than buying dedicated niche hardware. And what's a wheel besides strapping a rotary encoder to a circuit board and tricking your brain a little bit to think you're actually driving? Could have been supportive of the opinion you just don't like VR and that'd be cool but trying to argue "my expensive niche hardware is better than YOUR expensive niche hardware!" is just a little silly, dude. VR, like with wheels and joysticks, are fun because they enhance the immersion and interactability of the game.
Exactly.
VR can make any mediocre gameplay/activity ten times more fun because of the interactivity, Cooking in VR is fun for example
The problem is that that's what the vast majority of VR games are, regular games with an added layer of immersion and interactivity
Even Alyx -which is by far the best VR game in terms of production values and polish- played it extremely safe
I personally love it and can't get enough of handling guns or cars in VR but it just isn't innovative enough to justify the entry fee as far as the general populace is concerned
"e" or "ae"?