Wait
Since when Kanji is gay?
Wasn't his entire character about how loving knitting doesn't make you a homosexual and you don't need to overcompensate?
Wait. Since when Kanji is gay?
Wait
Since when Kanji is gay?
Wasn't his entire character about how loving knitting doesn't make you a homosexual and you don't need to overcompensate?
can we please stop talking about dogshit takes from fan fiction clickbait articles
We will stop talking about dogshit fanfiction articles when people will stop taking dogshit fanfiction articles seriously
who is taking them seriously
also who is “we”
They won't stop because you keep giving them validation. You just refuse to understand that this is an ouroboros kept afloat by those willing to keep it alive. When you give it attention, you give it a reason to live.
troonoids have no self awareness and group Kanji in as being gay solely based off of his hobbies and interests, the very thing he was insecure about in the first place.
It would be so funny if the irony wasn't completely lost on them.
This is the only gay character in Persona 4 (those who know know).
>Yosuke is gay
>Do you have a single fact to back that up?
>shut up shut up shut up he just is gay okay!?!
Military grade copium.
>constantly had to assert how straight he is when Kanji is around because he’s insecure about his own masculinity
>tries too hard to be a playboy to come of as some ultra-straight gigachad instead of a homosexual twink
>has an actual cut gay romance that went so far into development that it got an English dub
Mhm yeah… I think he’s a homo.
tbtbh he reminded me a lot of myself when I was closeted in highschool. I think they decided against making him gay (they cut the romance option after all) but he is still probably the most believable gay character I've ever seen in a game.
I have to admit I was confused too at first but yes, these people who claim he is gay are wrong.
He was a straight guy who was confused. He thought that just because he enjoys hobbies atypical to his sex makes him gay.
Wrong, exceptions happen.
Yes IRL, gays do in fact naturally behave atypical to their sex because of their fricked upped brains but sometimes this happens to straight men too. As I said, exceptions happen. For instance, masculine gay men are exceptions within exceptions.
Anyway. I am not even biased because I am a gay. When I played this game as a teen I wanted him to be gay because I thought he was hot but he is just a straight guy with a feminine side.
His story arc is based on real life events though because a lot of male public figures overcompensate too because they fear of being seen as gay. See example of marvel actor here: https://www.tumblr.com/bumble66/741434887364591616/the-similarities-between-closeted-right-wingers?source=share
Kanji is not gay
Devs however, wanted to make the other dude gay, but were not able to because back then their boy love fan service would've made japanese fans complain and get upset.
if Kanji was a man in 2024 however he would be prey to social engineering and end up becoming bisexual
gay men are actually very conscious on how they look. whether masculine or feminine. they're very vain. Kanji is somewhat vain, and he acts like a closet case overcompensating. He could be seen as a closet case that really never came out and used the whole mishap with naoto as an excuse to stay in the closet.
I feel like I am too feminine and am an artist. When I'm in super art mode I sometimes "act gay" completely not on purpose. (I was directing a film shot and when listening to my voice it seemed to have a lisp to it) But I love women and have a pretty masculine body. I work out and grow facial hair fast
same actually
im not gay put people sometimes think I am based on certain mannerisms and sometimes lisp on "S" sounds
actual gays can tell I'm straight, they say I dress too messy. not spotless shoes, wrinkled untucked shirts, beard is not neatly trimmed
These science reporters are dumb as frick.
It's a tiny little part of the brain that differs, not the whole thing, and that part also differs in schizophrenics and pedophiles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stria_terminalis
>gay people are actually troonys
what does that make troonys...
Homosexuals destroy the act of sex.
Trannies literally destroy their sex.
Fake and ultra gay. There is no such thing as a man having a woman's brain. Both men and women have a brain which confuses smoothbrains.
Knitting is not "having a feminine" side, I bet the best knitters are men. Kitting is just something that you can do around children hence why women do it more.
What makes a woman a woman is the fact that she's compatible with a male, vice versa for men.
Stop reading these moronic articles. Yes, Kanji's not gay and Naoto's not trans. This has been discussed for a decade and we don't need to discuss it anymore.
Yosuke is the big thinker of the investigation team and he thinks Kanji is a gigantic homo, don't need any more proof. Kanji and all Kanji bootlickers are gays.
is this why they cut out his romance with the protagonist social link option? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4uuWbQJ62w
>Yosuke is gayeehh!!!
Cope and seethe, Yosuke is way too cool to be gay and he hits on every single woman he comes across, unlike Kanji who lusts for men.
Yosuke is gay tho
No, Yosuke even agreed to go with Hanako on a date but his bike broke, He is clearly the straightest guy in the group.
Yuri Löwenthal has a gay voice. I love it.
Yosuke is way gayer than Kanji
>s link resolves by having a sweaty wrestling match with you
The irony here is that Yosuke is the gay one, he was a cut gay romance option.
>Cut romance because Atlus didn't want him to be gay
So that means he isn't gay, it's settled then.
No it means Narukami isn't gay.
Original creator intended for him to be gay. Official dialogue was recorded of him being gay.
Hes gay, and no publisher revisionism will change that. Cope.
Pretty sure the cut dialogue were done in preparation for the eventual feMC...
p4 doesn't have a femc?
not yet, have to wait for Persona 4 Regilded edition's dlc pack releasing in 2028
That makes a lot more sense than yoskue being gay actual
Except the femc wasn't eventual
There's really no evidence of them ever planning to implement a femc in 4. They made Jun gay in 2, it's not a stretch for Yosuke to be a similar character that was trimmed back because the series was starting to gain popularity.
>constantly thinking about Kanji raping him
>lives with a trap
>dresses like this
>the only male character that had a planned romance with the MC
Yosuke is by far the biggest homosexual in the game
Why are you reading game journos? have a nice day.
Americans have zero media literacy and misrepresent Kanji and Naoto as gay and trans despite the fact that each one looks towards the camera and explains their deals in really simple language.
>Kanji: Woah. You're right. I'm not gay, I was just worried people would call me a gay if they knew I liked to sew!
>Naoto: Gee, you're right. I don't wanna be a boy, I was just worried I wouldn't be taken seriously in a male-dominated field if I had big knockers.
I still think Naoto's story is a bit stupid, yeah sure her field is male dominated but in reality she wouldn't get respect because she's 15 not because she's a girl. Imagine being a cop and having a literal child strolling into your crime scene. Doesn't matter if it's a boy or girl just get them the frick out before they ruin something.
Isn't Sylvando just larping and basically asexual?
Yeah he's got a personal pink gimp aboard his ship as a joke haha
come on anon
No, all that Liberace shit is what Sylvando's really like. But it's true that despite all that, he doesn't seem to be interested in romance at all. He wants happiness for everyone else and doesn't seem to have any desires for himself beyond that.
Yeah, to me Sylvando feels much more as a fricking BIG GAY than exactly homo, idk how to express that better.
He could be homo, and japanese humour teases his actions and mannerisms as being so, but to me his gayness goes far beyond homosexual stuff.
Sylvando's behavior is just an amusing caricature, like Hard Gay.
He isn't. The LGBTQ+ like to "code" characters and people. Their way of claiming they are closet gay or trans or what the frick ever.
Kanji like enjoys doing feminine things but isn't himself trans or gay. So he over states masculine features and attitude to hide the fact he likes something most men wouldn't find masculine.
They also tried to claim Naoto. Which backfired once someone showed them a screen from the game with her outright saying she will never be man and never wanted to be in the first place.
Its hilarious how these tumblr boomers crusaded against "stereotyping" characters as a global negative. But then realized that stereotypical tropes are effective ways of creating strong characters, so they had to literally invent "stereotypes but good" in the form of "coding".
Ok there is one strange thing though. I haven't played 4 since 2015 but isn't your shadow your true self? So why was Kanji's shadow a gay in a gay bath house?
As I said before, I think he was a hetero guy who was afraid of being seen as gay but why was the shadow gay?
>isn't your shadow your true self
no, and never was
No there certain feelings amplified at the time to basically convince you to KYS he enjoyed girly stuff like knitting and imagined because that he must be gay while irl he overcompensated because he didnt wanna come off as gay. Then he meets Naoto and realizes he likes women and likes girly things that doesnt automatically mean hes gay.
Shadows take some true part of you, and distort it to the extreme. Lisa's shadow says she slept around with older men for cash. Kanji's shadow says he a flaming homo. Aigis's shadow is a hyperselective mamorugay. Futaba's shadow wants nothing more than to just rot and die.
Lisa didn’t sleep with older men, she did compensated dating. Sometimes this results in having sex but most of the time it’s just old salary men paying a young girl to have dinner with them. It’s more obvious in the Japanese dialogue that no sex occurred.
Again, it's taken to the extreme. The shadow's going to say she had sex with them even if all she did was compensated dating.
>Shadows take some true part of you, and distort it to the extreme.
The true part of Kanji that the shadow is taking is that he's uncomfortable around women because he's scare of being rejected for his feminine hobbies and because of that he thinks it easier to be around guys. It has nothing to do with wanting a dick in his ass.
Your shadow (in 4 at least) is the worst parts of your perception of yourself. It's what YOU think is wrong with you.
Your public facing persona (no not your stand power the actual word persona) is part of you but it's not the real you. Their shadows took form from the public perception of them but as they all said right before the boss fight started it's not their true self. The opening song for the original version is called "pursuing my true self" for a reason, the kids want to find their true self while everyone around them are pushing labels on them.
He would have been gay if Naoto was a boy though
The game says the shadow is them and Kanji's is a flaming homosexual
>The game says the shadow is them
source?
It attacks them every time for denying that it's part of them?
I'm asking for a direct source in the game that states your claim.
Source?
They're both the deepest, darkest thoughts a persin buries, but they're also made up of rumors and outside perceptions.
People legitimately seem to miss out on the theme of perceptions. Cameras and screens. Things that can warp, distort and miscolor someone's perception of a person. And they spell this out as bluntly as possible because it's a game made for fourteen year olds.
Persona 4.
see
The Shadow is them, in the sense that the Shadow is the reflection of their thoughts that are repressed, and that they do not want to acknowledge. Chie for example isn't actually using Yukiko for her connections, and Kanji's not actually gay. Chie repressed these thoughts she had about Yukiko because she didn't want to believe that it's possible that she's helpless and needs Yukiko to survive. Kanji was insecure with the things he liked to do and thus shut out the connotations that come with his hobbies, instead deciding to act out like a thug. Shadows are always about the repressed self, but not necessarily the TRUE self.
Its gonna be tough for fatlus to remake this with sweaty fat disgusting moron era dumbasses ready to complain
He thought he must be gay because he likes typically feminine hobbies, and additionally because he was attracted to Naoto, who had disguised herself as a male. Western gay clickbait websites and the ridiculous fandom they have spawned are literally incapable of conceiving a story in which someone is confused about their identity without being a troony or turning massively gay.
>Since when Kanji is gay?
Since never
>Wasn't his entire character about how loving knitting doesn't make you a homosexual and you don't need to overcompensate?
Congrats, you played the game unlike the homosexual from your OP
How stupid do you have to be to not get what Kanji was about?
Being too woke is actually one small step away from being a huge bigot
Gotta say, from reading this thread, a lot of anons here might be closeted gays. Wanting a bug muscular guy to frick you is definitely gay.
You guys might be projecting too much and are afraid of your own feelings.
You sure you’re not projecting onto everyone else? You might have cognitive dissonance.
No. I just don’t see how you can say a guy wanting to be with a muscular guy isn’t gay. No straight man ever thinks of that.
he isn't. it's moronic journos being moronic journos
>Wasn't his entire character about how loving knitting doesn't make you a homosexual and you don't need to overcompensate?
Yes. Ironically Westerners for some reason have comically failed to understand his story and think they are progressive for treating him just like the kids who bullied him by insisting that he is a homosexual.
He isn't gay. The story/his dungeon was him being insecure thinking other people think he is gay because he grew up without a dad for the most part so he has feminine hobbies that he learn from his mum instead of having male hobbies. Why does this game have so many bait articles/threads written by people who either haven't played the game or have no reading comprehension?
gays never got over Kanji not being gay and Naoto not being a troony.
It’s been like that even when I still checked up on Persona discussions 10+ years ago.
In part that’s what ruined Persona, moronic people want their own wish fulfillment and Atlus gave them too much of it.
They are hoping to make him fully gay in a re-release and getting a "It was always intended as a gay character" declaration from the nips. Same with Naoto. Can you blame the infected ones for trying this? It worked with Guilty Gear and got Persona 3 sanitized. Constant push and one step at the time.
Kanji is a bisexual. Yosuke is hard gay though.
>Yosuke is hard gay though
TentaraFOOOOO
>Kanji gays projecting their homosexuality on Yosuke GAWDS.
Give up homos. all your efforts are vain.
gay scarf
>Clothing pieces now have sexual orientation
Meds. NOW
Yosuke is Inaba's straightest man, do not accuse him of such heresy.
>I'm incredibly insecure and so I outwardly project manliness and standoffishness so I don't get hurt when people figure out what my real hobbies are
WOW KANJI'S GAY
>I'm also very insecure, because I am both a child and a woman working in a field dominated by adult men, and I want everyone to take me seriously and respect my abilities at work
HOLY SHIT NAOTO'S TRANS
People who don't understand themselves getting the wrong idea and projecting their insecurities on other people and things that are trying to understand themselves?
Who would have fricking thought?
In the remake i'd be fine with them making Yousuke gay, like originally intended, but Kanji and Naoto would just be dumb.
>but Kanji would just be dumb.
Kanji is the colossal gayest, gay homo.
You don't get to delete his entire character arc.
Kanji is that friend who is straight but acts like a homosexual and you enjoy teasing him that he is a homo, and even your gay friend in the group calls him super homo.
Kanji actually being gay would just make all the humor surrounding him seem not-funny and somewhat mean spirited.
Kanji lets Teddy shag him, wants to touch Yu's body and let Yosuke fall on his face as an excuse to get a kiss.
Kanji is ultra gay.
Yosuke is an innocent man that Kanji sexually preys on throughout the games, Yosuke's homophobia is deserved and genuine and not cope that homos use to believe that he is in the closet.
What king of friends do you even have? I can’t think of a single friend in my life who acts like a gay. The closest one friend came to doing something “gay” was him keeping things organized and tidy at his place.
Kanji is a bisexual. He likes both.
i dont get this logic
>your hobbies include sewing and knitting? lol you must be gay nevermind the fact that its the family business
>youre a woman with short hair? lol you must be gay
horseshoe theory anon
>right wing chud nazi: lol short hair? You're rejecting your obligation to be feminine, you must be a dyke or a troony
>left wing wokeshitter cuck: you have short hair?? you're so dedicated to sticking it to the patriarchy you obviously must be acting subconsciously because you identify as a man!
regardless of the overall reasons, they act the same
>Door died
>Joker was Ichiban cellmate
>Chad had a dance off against a god and a street fighter knock off tournament on "we have Tartarus at home" with door's best friends, no consequence whatsoever
He can't keep getting away with it.
Only troony homosexuals in the western audience say this shit.
Dude's not gay. Only recently played P4G late last year and think he just liked Naoto cause she wasn't or didn't appear to be as ''dolled up' as the others girl but he clearly like women
At most he's bisexual and even that's a bit of a stretch.
There was also the fact that he had a crush on Naoto despite thinking she was a boy at the time. A little gayer than sewing, no?
And he still had the hots for her after knowing she was girl.
So bi and not gay.
Sexually conflicted because of societal pressure. Which resolves to being straight.
>anon pretends not to know about the trope where anime characters can just tell it's a girl
(You)
He likes Naoto both before and after thinking she's a man, and he likes the MC and gets a nose bleed looking at him in his swim trunks. He's bi.
>oh shit why am I attracted to this boy?
>did I make myself gay by thinking sewing is gay?
>fuuuuuck
>oh naoto is a girl whew
Yeah dude it's totally that he's gay/bi and not that to even a casual observer Naoto doesn't look like a fricking dude.
To put this in terms Ganker will understand: Kanji was just the first one to clock Naoto for dressing in drag, everyone else was just an idiot.
>"Kanji is gay!"
>Canonly wants to smash the b***h with the biggest breasts
next they're gonna say Naoto is trans.
He was only into her when she was wrapped and looked like a boy. He had no idea about her breasts.
Kanji isn't gay
Naoto isn't trans
Yukari acquiescing to the insane privilege she was born with and carrying on her family legacy is a good thing
Adachi's a psychopathic moron
Rise is a fricking prostitute
If you came away from P4 with any other takes than these, you're a dumbass.
Kanji is at least bi-curious, and Naoto isn't trans.
If you think anything else, you're completely fricking moronic and don't know how to read.
Naoto isn't trans but she does have some completely moronic ideas about gender.
these people are writing at a fourth grade level, they aren't exactly geniuses, most likely just get their opinions from some other dishonest homosexualry website
Didn't Yosuke had a crush on a girl who worked at his family store and after finding out the truth, it was revealed she didn't like him and in fact hated Yosuke? Also, isn't there a scene later on in Yosuke's bond mini game that two female co-workers were bad mouthing the girl and even though Yosuke, already having the knowledge that the girl never liked him, still defended her name from the two girl even when she was dead?
It's still bonkers to me that people that are supposedly all for challenging gender norms are also the ones that hold fast to them so strictly that any male character with a feminine appearance or interests is either gay or an "egg".
Nothing gay with sewing
since illiterate morons discovered about Persona.
No, we will not give you engagement farming for Twitter
>only recently play 4 Golden
>obvious that Kanji is grappling with the idea of if he's gay, his social link confirms he's not and just likes more feminine hobbies, while also being awkward and stupid socially thanks to how people much he tried to overcorrect himself
>Naoto only tries to pretend to be a guy because she believes thanks to her upbringing the only way she can successfully be a detective is by overcommitting to it, social link shows either way she realizes she's a girl and doesn't need to fake being a dude to be a good detective
>in spite of this, people are quick to call the two Gay and Trans respectively while ignoring all of their character development
I actually don't understand, why would you prove to everyone you didn't actually finish the game/links? And yes, I get gays and trannies do like to pretend characters belong to them, I don't care.