Then Retconhammer was born.
It's funny seeing how many "fans" are losing their minds with the female custodes' bullshit (because, indeed it's an awful retcon), but NO ONE said shit when the Primarchs' origin got retconned.
>original lore: baby Primarchs got lost in space because the Dark Gods
>first retcon: baby Primarchs got lost in space because the fricking time travel of a Word Bearer
>second retcon: baby Primarchs got lost and therefore corrupted by Chaos because "Goddess-Empress" (first a meme, now canon) Erda didn't want HER BIOLOGICAL SONS to became Paladins of Mankind
(Women trying to not ruin men's stuff, challenge. Imposible.)
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Move your timeline back two more decades and you'll be right on the money, tourist. 40k was never good and has never had internal consistency.
>accuse me of tourist
>says 40k was never good
Why gaytards like you are so lame this days? it's not even funny.
He's right tho. 40k is for paypiggy cattle who are perpetual manchildren
Man when you discover that there is people that like 40K for the war / grimdark stuff and never pay for miniatures, your mind is gonna explode.
Also if you're a miniatures guy, just get a 3D printer.
You mean homosexual secondaries?
So you're either a paypiggy or a homosexual secondary? Why the frick are you even here if you hate it so much?
yup
>Man when you discover that there is people that like 40K for the war / grimdark stuff and never pay for miniatures, your mind is gonna explode.
It's not some big secret that there is a horde of third worlders who do nothing but watch warhammer youtube videos and then threaten to stop buying the warhammer models they've never bought whenever GW releases something new
>warhammer has internal consistency for 20 years
>then suddenly has multiple retcons to justify female marines in the span of 4 years
Why do "people" like you continue to steal air?
>quite literally not intelligent enough to understand my post
SAD!
does anybody have that meme image of a group, then the group lets in a woman, which in turn lets in normies, until eventually the original group have all been removed? can't seem to find it myself
How many women have you ever seen playing 40k? I don't think your meme is applicable here.
All it takes is a vocal minority before the PR department decides things need to change
I know the one you are talking about, sadly I don't have, check picrel.
You will be surprise then, GW, because BlackRock-Vanguard's money, is now checking Internet more than real life customers, and in Twitter and Reddit you will see a true plague of women and castrated men cheering this shit.
yeah it was a black and white drawing of people sitting around a board game i think
warhammer has been normie since the 2010s, if not earlier.
Pretty sure the actual image isn't kosher to be posting outside of /b/ now, but Google "degradation of a hobby" and it'll come up.
>females join to attract attention from boys
You have to be moronic to think women want the attention of the autists who are obsessed with this shit.
You'd have to be moronic to think females don't want any attention they can get and hate being excluded from anything, even things they don't like, there's a reason they've spent the last decade infesting man child hobbies
If you want attention you make an instagram account and post your ass on it. You don't go to fricking nerd hobbies. Leave you basement at least occasionally.
Give me lore reasons why female custodes shouldn't exist
because women are weak, both mentally and physically
I called The Emperor of Mankind and he said no.
We all know this isn't about the lore. It's a lefty inclusion thing about destroying male spaces.
Instead of demanding people defend their opposition to your changes, the onus is on you to defend why you think the change is justified or necessary.
Give me one reason why they should. You are the one asking to change something for sake of change.
IMHO 40K was fine untill ~2004. It went downhill from there, 5th edition codexes being the killing blow. Everything after that was plain bad and gay.
Elaborate it, what gone wrong?
What happened in those years that ruined 40k for you??
They grew up
Aktually 40k was poisoned in 2006 and died in 2016.
I didn't realize the female custodes would annoy me as much as it has. I mean I play tau which has a female leader for their armed forces.
But I just feel that female custodes and female space marine clamourers are just fetishist who want to insert their muscle mommy fantasies into the game. The imperium already had women of immense power. Only an idiot would think that women weren't present in the setting and that this is somehow a watershed moment.
>But I just feel that female custodes and female space marine clamourers are just fetishist who want to insert their muscle mommy fantasies into the game. The imperium already had women of immense power. Only an idiot would think that women weren't present in the setting and that this is somehow a watershed moment.
It will never be enough. No matter how many female models you give the Imperium, they will demand more. They will continue to demand Female Space marines. They will demand female-only Imperial Guard regiments. They will demand more female-only Imperial Agents.
>They will demand female-only
No, they won't. They never do that. It's aways about erasing male only factions.
Im so sick of the constant b***hing about femstodes that I almost welcome the change. Frick it, Cawl found a way and in a thousand years he will be able to make female space marines too.
yep and then the imperium will go for flavourful to le heckin wholesome big chungus :DDD everyones gay trans like everything the culture rot touches.
This but unironically. Also Chaos will have trad brown catboys preaching how Imperium is degenerate because femoids have corrupted it and anons should retvrn to tradition.
>Also Chaos will have trad brown catboys preaching how Imperium is degenerate because femoids have corrupted it
Disgusting...
>>tfw don't mind female custodes because women (especially tall) in armor are hot
Just enjoy the giant women Anon, that's what hobbies are for!
have a nice day ND.
Every time
this but unironically
You go girl!
Oh my gosh, if that isn't the perfect quote. Thank you for that image sir.
It really is just the perfect summation of the last 10 years of leftoids trying to be sex positive and puritanical pearl-clutchers all at the same time. At least the soccer moms were consistent in their censorship crusades.
>falseflagging
Naw bro. You're not selling it to anyone. You're cranking savagely to 23 tabs pics like you posted and the new retconn lore in general
I stopped caring about 40k a while ago. I'm just annoyed it's like every 5th thread on tg and even my youtube is getting inundated with all these videos of fat fricks REEEEEEEEEEing about it. Also I crank it almost exclusively to xenomorphs and facehuggers.
Erda made a deal with Dark Gods to get rid of baby primarchs.
Dark Gods sent a time-travelling Word Bearer to frick up baby primarch
Baby primarchs got lost in space because of Dark Gods.
1. If Erda made a deal, Dark Gods wouldn't need to use "time travel", thing that they even can't control and was a pure MacGuffin that the writer of the novel used it and later regret it, because was stupid.
Not a single franchise that used time travel, unless it's a surreal one and nothing matters, have made it work.
2. Erda as all the Perpetuals were another MacGuffin that GW still regrets to add, but because they were and still are too morons to implement good female representation without ruining the lore, they just keep her.
>need female representation because BlackRock money
>creates Erda
>her lore is a shitshow that ruins and retcons a lot about the good original
>she just appears in 2 not so good books
>still canon, because BlackRock money, but she no longer appears in any other product
I bet GW will do the same with the female custodes after seeing how much they fricked up.
When are we going to get Misters of Battle and Misters of Silence? Having female-only organizations is sexist as hell.
Battle Brothers & Silent Fathers
You know you can ignore canon freely and take who consider the ESG-DEI tampered new canon as adequate as another consumer to be disregarded, right?
>DON'T QUESTION THINGS JUST CONSOOM! CONSOOM! CONSOOM! CONSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Gatekeeping is not enough.
Well, I only read the books anyways, and I enjoy the mythological projections and the silly parts of the community. I'll never even play it ever. There already is enough material for a lifetime for me to care about present-day ESG-DEI tampering. I never gave a dime to games workshop, nor ever will.
Everyone who doesn't agree with me is an Unbased, Brown skinned, Pajama wearing, Basket-face, Slipper wielding, clype deep bachle, gather uping blate maw, blethering gomeril Jessie, Oaf-lookin' schtooner, Nyaff plookie shan, Milk-drinking Onions-face shilpit, Mim-moothed, sniveling worm-eyed hotten blaugh, vile stoochie, cally-breek tattie and everyone who agrees with me is a BVSVD WHVTV FVLLVW WVRHVMMVR CHVD
>War-kiddies eating shit and outing themselves as gay while SW Chads keep on winning
Yeah because when I think unpozzed media I think Star Wars kek
Thats incorrect and you know the books from retelling. That woman had meltdown because emperor did not express anything but willingness to use primarch to seemingly own ends and she did observe similar tyrants in the past. So understandable. Also the parroted look at her is that she is some genius beyond emperor or anyone. Incorrect, used data assembled by others.
Her image is demonized by woman-hating tg-dwellers.
>Her image is demonized by woman-hating tg-dwellers.
Are we really playing the 'misogyny' card? She was some feminist power fantasy inserted JUST for the act of a woman telling the emperor 'no'. That's it. It's time for people to actually mature and realize that emasculating male characters just to achieve some kind of dei/esg score/social justice brownie points is not some anyone anyone who actually likes the hobby and lore would ever do.
And if we're pretending gw and dan wrote her in for any other reason then you're just being ficticious and there's no reason to even engage with you. As much as that shit gets push in every bit of media that gets even a little popular, you'd think one could come up with something more than
>waaaah they just hates womens
No b***h, you are just a weak person. Okay with men being made a fool of, while thinking you're some kind of 'enlighted' being for blindly sticking up for anything involving a woman. Even with something clearly written by some dude that's already had this issue with past female characters.
Grow the frick up. If you don't care about men being given a raw deal, then don't b***h when people don't accept the 'next' Rey Skywalker.
>Her image is demonized
No it's not. Her whole existence is for the one purpose of telling big e, he might not have known the best thing to do. And in the end, with her finally figuring out chaos, it's her who is actually the one proven to maybe not know what the best thing to do is. But it took throwing 20 of her fricking children into the warp. So many consider her to be a dick. And an idiot. While the lore tries to paint her as 'good' and 'wise'.
Forgive my rant but get off that feminist shit.
Erebus did one good thing. Shanked Erda.
>tfw don't mind female custodes because women (especially tall) in armor are hot
>but do hate the whole gender/political agenda
fug
im a bit conflicted
I just don't give a shit one way or another. I've seen how GW writes custodian characters. They're brain dead thugs. Every single interaction is just them saying something mean, followed by demands to do what they say follow by threats of violence, implicit or otherwise. This is even funnier when you read the codex and they're described as genius master diplomats. GW's writers are not good, they won't do something interesting with female custodians. They'll be boring, one dimensional thugs who can't think for themselves just like the guys are.
>imperial versions of Daemonculabas
If only GW just named like that, "Imperialculabas".
We'ld get our thicc muscle tomboys and canon would still ok.
>MUH THICC TOMBOY MUSCLE SHORTSTACK MACGUFFIN TANLINES VANILLA WEIRD PUPILS SHARP TEETH OPPAI e-girl GOTHYMOMMYDOMMY WAIFU UGUUUUUUUUUUUUU
have a nice day. Unironically.
Femstodes are the most unrealistic thing I've ever seen because they would just be imperial versions of Daemonculabas
>the perfect women are Tleilaxu Axlotl Tanks unable to disobey
>the emperor's secret plan was a 10,000 year long breeding program pumping out Men and Women of Gold to replace humanity
If nulore chaps like Cawl can magic up hidden legions surely the Imperial Palace can do the same :^
>Thinks Daemonculabas can't fight
>but NO ONE said shit when the Primarchs' origin got retconned.
Clearly a fricking newbie because people have been mocking Erda since that bit of lore got released, even on twitter and reddit.
Apparently you are the newbie here, it's not about mocking, it's about boycotting. The point of OP is that when the Erda retcon happened there was no boycott campaign, just laughs, despite some people warned that Erda was the BlackRock's Tory Horse for 40k.
Now with female custodes, people are losing their minds and boycotting GW, DESPITE they were already warned since 2020, 4 years ago.
don't complain that the frog didn't get boiled.
Erda was the black swan event.
c**tstodes was the straw the broke the camels back.
The smart people know it was going ot be shit the moment AoS was announced, becuase that showed GW was willing to fricking ass nuke 20 years of lore to push profit, which meant nothing was safe.
Lore should be sacred, and only retconned in the most extreme situations, because it is lore that creates teh setting, Lore is what gives meaning to pushing around little dolls on a table making pew pew sounds as we roll dice.
When lore can be changed at a whim, it means none of it matters, which means there is no point in investing time and energy in learning it, or caring about it because it can change with the weather.
Primarisharts were squeezed out longer than 4 years ago
Horus heresy crapola too.
>less men = more women thus more heterosexuality
Why are you gays so gay?
Im a tourist. An ally if you will, since DoW times. I am still in that era that I consider peak.
Oldcrons, Eldars, Old Marines. Would probably like a slightly earlier GKless era or even Tauless era more.
It is kinda sad that it is going to shit little by little. Votann were a good thing, despite being flawed, but since 2004 there literally are bad decisions for short buck.
I am happy Ive never commited to miniatures despite being quite a loregay. Since about primaris I frequently think it would be better if I considered Wh40k as I consider Fantasy Battle - as something mildly interesting and not a thing I care about at all.
>not the bgg purge
>not chapterhouse
Warhammer died the moments they retconned the Necrons from being a silent, unknowable, lovecraftian slave races to powers beyond comprehension into wacky space tomb kings collecting pokemon
Everyone go to X and give them instant feedback how fricking stupid this Retconhammer shit is and to not give in to the woke and DEI garbage. The culture rot is fricking real and has to end.
Yes please, go and yell at them about all of this. You're all very articulate, highly composed and surely won't make fools of yourselves.
Sure buddy. Let's allow a franchise to deteriorate instead of providing constructive feedback related to the fact that woke and DEI policies turn products into shit.
Are you even able to think or do you willingly accept the cultural rot?
I already told you to go ahead and do it. Try maximizing conservative buzzwords like DEI and woke. I'm sure you'll be taken very seriously.
you know, OP is speaking truth.
the Fall of Cadia was the beginning of the end.
The Cycatrix Maledictum and the Imperium Secundus was the worst frickin thing to happen
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Haha so true
pretty epic bacon if i say so myself op
the femenazis have gone to far this time
they are attacking us vulnerable gamers
#gamergate
I think Primaris are a much more terrible lore addition. Setting kind of died at that point for me. This is pretty smalltime. If gender lefties want a corporate friendly grimdark toy line to waste their money in then please have at it
if the women they implement into the lore are hot, i dont mind this
You've seen the models, you know they won't be
whoever makes the faces for female warhammer minis needs to get beheaded
People who b***h about the female sculpts are the ones who need to beheaded because they obviously don't know that the paintjobs are at fault
show me more, i unironically need to be enlightened
I just don't understand why people are so desperate to have their space fascists adopt liberal ideas about gender.
Whose victory is that? What do they mean by it?
The only thing that makes sense would be doing it specifically to make people mad. It's like the "Gatecrushers" homosexual marines. Why would you want trans representation in the Space Racists? Who wants this? Qui bono?
To quote someone that doesn't exist, when one's definition of victory is that their opponents didn't, then any sort of "step ahead" is worth it.
I'm having fun reading reddit and laughing at the SJW wienersuckers with mouth full of DEI jizz actually defending this and going on b***h boy rants about how people who are real fans shouldn't be objecting to this. It's amazing how some sexless SJW cum guzzlers always come out to defend this shit when it happens. I'd love to see what they look like IRL. But none of them have jobs or lives, so it's impossible to run into them.
Im a lorelet. Are custodes made out of humans? Or are they just genetically madw from testtubes?
In order to be as strong as they are, don't they need to have massive amounts of male hormones? So won't the women have deep voices, man-faces that suffer from gigantism, and mostly male bodies?
Or are they going to just give them hot girl faces and call it a day?