What a shitshow.
>The company envisions a future Harry Potter game where you can "live and work and build and play in that world in an ongoing basis."
>"We're doubling down on games as an area where we think there is a lot more growth opportunity that we can tap into with the IP that we have and some of the capabilities we have on the studio where we're uniquely positioned as both a publisher and a developer of games."
>Perrette said WBD's recent gaming output has focused on AAA games for console, and that's great when a game like Hogwarts Legacy sells 22 million copies and becomes the best-selling game of the year, but this kind of success is never guaranteed in what Perrette said was a "volatile" market. He pointed out that one of WBD's latest big games, Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League, was a disappointment for the company.
>So the plan going forward, he said, is to help reduce volatility by focusing on core franchises and bringing at least some of them to the mobile and free-to-play space, as well as continuing to invest in live-service games that people play--and spend money on--over a long period of time. This will help WBD generate more consistent revenue, he said, going on to tease that WBD had some new mobile free-to-play games coming this year. Also worth noting is that just because WBD may push into new places, that doesn't necessarily mean it will stop making big single-player AAA games.
>"Rather than just launching a one-and-done console game, how do we develop a game around, for example, a Hogwarts Legacy or Harry Potter, that is a live-service where people can live and work and build and play in that world in an ongoing basis?" he said.
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They made a bad decision and still can't connect the dots as to why Hogwarts sold well and Suicide Squad didn't. These suits are hopeless.
BECAUSE HOGWARTS IS A WHITE SUPREMACIST GAME!! IT DOESN'T COUNT CHUD!
THIS IS LITERALLY TRANS GENOCIDE!
Fricking boomers man
God the boomers really need to frick off and die already, this is getting ridiculous.
>They made a bad decision and still can't connect the dots as to why Hogwarts sold well and Suicide Squad didn't. These suits are hopeless.
They are both subpar game based on established IP, so I don’t get it either
hogwarts got free advertisement, and also the setting of harry potter is better. there is a reason all those japanese vns and anime are set in highschools everyone wants to go back and relive school days and undo the mistakes they made so that + magic is always gonna be popular
also DC is a completely failing IP comparatively
Hogwarts Legacy was
>Based on an popular IP
>Singleplayer
>Had a lot of content
>Polished
Suicide Squad was
>Based on an unpopular IP
>Live service
>Had barely any content
>Unpolished
You probably just see open world slop, but a HP fan or casual ubishit enjoyer will get their $60 out of Hogwarts Legacy. Suicide Squad released unfinished with promised content in 6-12 months time if it sells well and has hardly any appeal to DC fans.
Nothing to it then. You're just low IQ.
suits and the shareholders that empower them will always be moronic
I refuse to believe that people are this moronic
suits only care about line going up or down. they are that stupid
unfortunately they are also in charge because nerds have no social skills to climb the ladder
Corporate types have been so thoroughly insulated against the consequences of their actions for so long that they are actually incapable of understanding causality. Hence the suits who struggle to comprehend why a video game company would have an interest in video games.
>I refuse to believe that people are this moronic
Many years back, some investor asked Nintendo to make Nintendo themed bread; specifically bread with the Nintendo logo on it. I’m not fricking kidding lmao
i would vote for someone that sends everyone like this to death camps
You had your chance with Ron Paul you made your bed now sleep in it.
you cant get there by voting
yeah but if i said the other thing it'd be illegal
You get there by killing the homosexual you posted in your picrel. frick off troony, you will never have a Hitler.
I want to sit in on one of these meetings and watch these troglodytes squirm in their seats anytime someone mentions "fun".
with each passing day, my hate for suits grows more and more
Suicide Squad failed because no one ever gave a single frick about the Suicide Squad and capeshit is on its way out
Hogwarts is algo fodder that lucked out by being carried the dumbest algo baggies on the planet.
Anti-troony games sell millions.
they know, but its not about money, its about sending a massage
and the message is that goys need to know their place
Cont
>Perrette went on to say that WBD is uniquely positioned because it has popular brands--he singled out Mortal Kombat, Game of Thrones, Harry Potter, and DC as its biggest--as well as 11 different internal game development studios. He also teased that WBD has a "strategic investment plan" to help make future games more successful, adding that the company just recently brought someone on to help with brand management and sustainability.
>If WBD can execute, Perrette said he expects gaming to bring "meaningful growth" to the company in the years to come. But making games takes time, so Perrette cautioned that the company is laying the foundation now for returns that could come in 2025, 2026, and 2027.
>Perrette went on to say how he has no idea how the gaming landscape will evolve over time, but he believes owning the IP and studios could help WBD succeed where others might not. He also called out things like virtual reality and "virtual worlds" as places that will "increase in scale and adoption" in the future.
>Some of WBD's upcoming video games include a Harry Potter Quidditch game and a Wonder Woman title from the makers of Shadow of Mordor.
This is some pure delulu copium. WB may as well preemptively shut down their gaming division for good to save themselves all that money.
>Mortal Kombat
That shit is losing favor with MK1. They better get their shit together.
Whats actually wrong with MK1 i never heard a full explanation?
It's one of the most buggy releases NRS has ever released, to a point where you can break the game and start fighting mid round transition while your opponent is stuck doing nothing, there's also a ton of busted balancing shit like P1 having advantage on all attacks online so 99% of the time if you clash online the computer will say the P1 player input the command slighty earlier and will punish you for it.
I'm sure theres a bunch fo stuff about how woke it is too but that's irrelevant in my opinion. The actual gameplay is buggy as frick and not very satisfying.
Also the Kameo system is a piss poor way of including fan favorites without including them, is utterly broken/imbalanced to apoint where everyone only uses the same 2-3 kameos, and introduces a ton of easy TOD combos.
>boring gameplay
>multiverse story has become overused
>just ok roster
>everything about Megan Fox
>lame DLC
>general boredom with crossover characters
I’m sure there’s more but that’s a start
>story mode sucks because it's another reboot with multiverse shit
>incompetent devs break the game every patch
>art direction sucks ass
>only got crossplay recently after months of waiting
>Invasions mode is a fricking slog
I had my gripes with 11 but at least it was better in most ways.
It's the second universal reset in the last 4 titles.
They story took all the interesting bits of characters like Scorpion or Lui Kang and turned them into generic tropes.
The new characters suck
The returning characters are mostly played out at this point and have been the same returning characters for the last like 6 entries.
They prude up all the women and make all the dudes more himbo than ever, while at the same time having some of the goriest and brutal finishers in the series to date, which is just a very fricking bizare set of morals to have.
Can't show covered up breasts or tight asses on women but you can show big wiener buldges and people literally being ripped in half with all their gore and viscera shown.
The series has been floudering for a while, but was still somewhat being carried by the story content. Now that's gone off the deep ened too so there's not really anything left other than a mediocre fighting game series that's 20+ years past it's prime
There's straightup too much to explain, the short version is it's so shit that it manages to make 11, a horrible game full of issues and terrible design choices, good by comparison.
Yeah I think i get it now. I feel bad for MK fans
I used to love Armageddon back in the day
Yep, pretty much. It genuinely made me lose any remaining love for the franchise, and I fricking LOVED 9. The fact normalgays ate this rushed garbage up makes me consider the average MK fan subhuman. Street Fighter 6 had a fun character creation mode where you beat grannies on the street, and the best MK can muster up is the worst story mode they've yet had. It's an embarassment. I honestly feel like 9 was a fluke at this point.
>I honestly feel like 9 was a fluke at this point
MK9 was so damn fun but in hindsight I wish they would have never put Freddy fricking Krueger in that game. Kratos either for that matter. It just opened up the door to make half of all the DLC into crossover memberberries
Fully agreed. Kratos I was always sore about because I never had a PS, but as far as MK guests go he's automatically on a higher tier than whatever random bullshit Boon is into + WB owns.
Freddy played like shit, didn't even match his movie look, and now makes it impossible to get MK9 on backwards compatibility on xbox. I imagine the same thing will happen to later games at some point, but it won't be nearly as big of a loss.
>shitty story (another reset)
>unsatisfying gameplay (compare MK9 smoke to the new one)
>basically frickall side content
>DLC advertised before the game even came out
>small roster
>woke race changes / sexless female outfits
>reimagined pajeet rain that's basically not even the same character
>the krypt, which got more and more elaborate with each entry, is now gone. The only thing we got in return is paying a set amount for a random item
>like two skins for each character (major downgrade from 11)
>one gear piece for each character, very few gear pieces at that (again, a major downgrade from 11)
>shitty edgy superhero gimmick takes DLC slots away from series favourites to instead give them to capeshit
Before the game came out, before they announced the full base games roster (they only told us about 60% at the time), they announced the first seaon DLC.
And not only did they announce the first season DLC, they told us the entire lineup of the first season of DLC.
Before they had announced the entire base games roser.
Let me say that again so it sticks
They announced the entire first season pass DLC roster BEFORE THEY FINISHED ANNOUNCING THE BASE GAMES ROSTER.
That's just the peak of the iceberg for why the game sucks, but jesus christ it was an absolute bright red flag for anyone paying attention.
Remember the speculation on who the kast character will be, only for there to not even be one? I remember.
Also, MK 1 is the first MK game (IIRC) to not even have a boss character. You got Shang for preordering, that's it.
Though, given that they clearly forgot what makes a good boss in 11, I guess it might be for the better.
Kronika is easily the worst MK villain, both in terms of story, how cheap she is and character design.
*last
>Doubling down on a much harder area to break out into: F2P and mobile games.
Has no one showed them Square Enix? Especially lately?
Kek square made a battle royale fps FF7 mobile shooter and it failed but a Harley Quinn mobile game will surely catch om
But we have such strong properties. Like um.. DC capeshit and Harry Potter, there's no way we won't make money.
>Uhhh... frick, our shitty live service movie game FAILED after killing our beloved characters for a meme squad nobody gives a shit about! YABBADABBADOOOO! Time to make gachaslop all day!
>gachaslop with ugly characters
They're in for a rude awakening.
>warner shits try to to make gachaslop
>get utterly crushed by hyper autistic chinese gacha developers
they never stood a chance
>LITERALLY has hogwarts legacy sell 20 million copies as a single player game
>LITERALLY has the biggest live service flop with suicide squad kill the justice league
>doubles down and says that they're still going to focus on live service
these fricking business homosexuals I swear
These frickers just get fed statistics by marketing homosexuals all day, I bet they don't even know how much Legacy sold
The absolute fricking state of the game industry right now, what the frick.
Is the crash happening for real this time?
It's been happening.
>DURR OUR SINGLE-PLAYER RPG SUCCEEDED WHILE OUR GAAS GOYSLOP FLOPPED!! LET'S MAKE MORE GAAS GOYSLOP!!
This is what happens when you let israeli boomer investors who know nothing about games steer your company.
It's weird that EA of all publishers has started understanding the value of single-player games after the Jedi series.
They had so many consecutive disasters, they learned their lesson the hard way, I suppose. I remember rumors that EA were also scrambling around a few years ago looking to get bought, but no one wanted them, maybe they had no choice but embrace single player so they could actually make some money kek.
EA? The Madden guys?
they literally just had a singleplayer game flop hard and pretty much said that was proof that all singleplayer games are dead
https://kotaku.com/immortals-of-aveum-budget-aaa-single-player-shooter-1851252502
That game was just ass all around. Wild Hearts was a better EA Originals game tbh
EA had nothing to do with the development of that game though. That statement was made by an Ascendant dev.
EA published it. that means they're the money that funded it. so they sure as shit are going to have a say in it.
It's not 2010 anymore. EA is the most hands off publisher out of the all the big wigs. There are some specific things that they want but it's only in regards to if you're making your game a live service game. Anything else as long as you maintain your budget properly they won't step in, and haven't stepped in for the last roughly decade.
And it's even better in the case of Immortals because there were reportedly multiple meetings with EA that tried to convince the team working on Immortals to tone the scale of the game back and sell it as a 40$ title because they were worried about it's sale potential as a 70$ title. And they were right. And not only were they right, they didn't decide to just go over the heads of the Immortals people and set the price themselves.
you know you're down bad when EA of all people is telling you to tone down the annoying woke shit in your games lol
EA is a monument to corporate greed, but they're actually making a (slight) effort to avoid costly high-profile live service failures these days. Apparently Anthem spooked them enough that they don't want to gamble on the multiplayer market if they can avoid it, and I imagine BF2042 only strengthened that resolve.
They're not saints by any means, but at this point if I worked for a development studio that was being bought out by one of the big publishers, I'd be praying it was EA.
Which is a far cry different from the general attitude like 15 years ago where they were basically seen as a deathknell for any studio they acquired.
Oh, they definitely earned their rep as a studio killer, the mass grave is a real and ever-present threat in the minds of its developers. Depending on how DA4 turns out, BioWare might merit a place in it.
>BioWare might merit a place in it
Bioware has been dead since DA2 what are you talking about lmao. they haven't released one good game since the EA buyout.
Hence why they might go into the grave if DA4 fails. Which, given its development thus far, is looking more and more likely.
But at that point it won't be on EA that BioWare died off. It will be because BioWare has released dogshit title after dogshit title for the last like 10 years.
EA had little to do with their Mass Effect projects other than general oversight, and was also hands off with TOR. The only BioWare title they were directly involved with was Anthem, and even then reports vary on how much involvement they have.
The way I've always looked at EA is the dude that goes to the pound to adopt the 10+ year old dogs that are on their way out, but they'll give them the nicest life they can have before that time comes.
They go to companies that are failing - many of which wouldn't have been able to afford to finish their current project - offer them a ton of money for the buyout, tell them to finish the current projec they're on, tell them to start work on the next project, and then if that next project fails they'll step in and do some middle mangement bullshit.
They're one of the biggest publishers around, but they don't have infinite money. And these studios that are not coming out with hits or even moderate successes would have long been shuttered if EA didn't step in and bail them out in the first place.
People don't talk about that though. They just see their favorite developer being bought by EA and then 5 years later being shut down, and blame it 100% on EA.
I worked in the gaming industry for a few years and I can tell you without bullshitting that if I could have a free choice which big cancer company I want publishing my game (so EA, Activision, Microsoft, Ubisoft, etc) I'd take EA over a lot of the other ones. Their history is a lot more horrid than they currently are. If you're developing a cashcow game like Madden then yeah they'll be the greediest israelites in existence. But if you're making real games for them or if you're trying to start up a smaller studio through Originals, they're actually quite sensible and give dev directors carte blanche as long as it's not something really stupid.
>EA published it. that means they're the money that funded it.
It literally doesn't. Look up what the EA originals program is.
ehh that's just gaming "journo" shills though. all media like that has been co-opted due to access culture to fellate the studios and insult/belittle the audiences when they don't pay up for the slop. it's why every time a studio has a flop there are dozens of articles about how it didn't do well because audiences are racist/sexst/transphobic/etc. and not because the studio failed to create a good piece of media.
>volatile
Just make games people want to play?
>Multiversus
Well shit, that's gonna be extra fricked in its payment schemes when it comes back
It was already bad before. Wonder if they'll double down on those shitty prices.
>i will never be scooby and have a threesome with anime velma and daphne
I think the most absurd part of this is this is that hogwarts legacy wasn't just a good selling game it was literally THE best selling singe player game in 2023 and generated over a BILLION in sales and somehow THAT WASN'T ENOUGH!?
This shit really makes me wonder how the industry managed to survive this long.
Because some homosexual businessman told the CEO that they made a billion but could make 2 billion and since the CEO ia legally obligated to do what makes the most money for share holders here we are
>durr capitalism
No it was this scotus case
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_v._Ford_Motor_Co.
>Decided 1919
>1919 was 10 years ago
Just make more HP games, the brand works
Hogwarts Legacy 2, a Quidditch game, and use those assets to make a Harry Potter MMO
Harry Potter MMO is what makes money but only if bult on the success and on what worked from other games
And keep going with the Hogwarts Legacy games, because while not amazing games, they have a lot of potential, the first was fun, and successfull
Make a bunch of AA games with original IPs and existing ones
Try some DC but without making GaaS shit
That sentence is a legal precedent but is also monumentally stupid
Because always going for the bigger number is usually far riskier so it's actually worse for everyone involved because if it flops you go home with less money
A sentece that instead aims to protect assured profits and company goodwill would make the world a better place
>Just make more HP games,
>Just keep murdering trans women,
same energy, you should be jailed
>Just make more HP games,
>Just keep murdering trans women
Based
>"Lets lose money because of trannies!"
And people still ask why the market is crashing.
So let me get this straight
It's illegal to not chase the largest profits when making everything GaaS, but it's not illegal to refuse profits by not making Hogwarts Legacy 2 because of trannies?
That can't be right
Yeah. Companies still contract Sweet Baby, even after everything they touched bombed. They really don't care about money. I guess the ESG money covers everything.
>I guess the ESG money covers everything.
How is that sustainable?
Its not, thats why its called a bubble.
And the bubble just popped
I feel like if you follow the paper trail that sweet baby is benefiting from some corrupt politician funding them in some way. No way something like that naturally becomes a thing.
Nah it's the same consultancy shit Sarkeesian and her ilk do. Just a different name or person in charge, but same idea.
>that's a nice game you got there, sure would be a shame if it got CANCELLED for being problematic
They're not making new HP games because they don't want to make trans activists angry Simple as that.
A significant portion of what's wrong with the current state of the US comes out of Supreme Court decisions dating from the 1900s and 1910s.
WB has a legit AAA mega game that will print money for them in sequels and instead of just building off that, they are going to burn it down with live service.
They deserve the upcoming disaster. What an absolute fricking stupid, idiotic decision.
I mean, they're the same idiots that had something truly special going on with the Batman Arkham games, only to throw it away for - Suicide Squad?
If they would have done Superman, Justice League or other DC Adjacent singleplayer games in the same universe as the Asylum ones, it would have made a frick ton of money, without a doubt.
That's the fricking sad thing, a lot of the stuff they have are pretty much licenses to print money and they did for more than a decade, because it isn't even hard to make something decent with it and have the brand carry the rest. But even that doesn't help when they decided to do the dumbest possible move at pretty much every turn. We now live in a world where they decided to go all in on the fricking Suicide Squad (couldn't be more ironic) instead of their main heroes or at least other characters people genuinely give a shit about beyond memes and then also put people in creative roles behind this who apparently convinced themselves that Harley Quinn's entire popularity didn't come from her being a hot crazy ditzy clown girl.
I have the perfect thing to exemplify what a clusterfrick of moronic proportions the treatment of their money printer is - Did you know that apparently one character they planned for the Suicide Squad was a female version of Mr. Freeze? Not Killer Frost, the sexy ice villainess (not that they would've made her sexy) who was actually part of the Suicide Squad and not just Mr. Freeze, the popular Batman villain pretty much everyone likes - nah, a fricking female version of Mr. Freeze, because everyone involved in this lives in a clown dimension.
I wouldn't want gun Killer Frost either
well WB in general is spinning out of control
even Disney isn't as much a failure in every department
>best selling game of the year
>single player
>NO MORE OF THAT PLEASE!
>one of the biggest bombs of the year
>a complete joke of a game to everyone
>live service schlock that everyone blasted from the moment it was first revealed
>SHIP EM ALL WE'RE GONNA TAKE EM OUT A WHOLE NEW DOOR!!
The real Suicide Squad is the people calling the shots at WBD since they seem to want to kill their own company.
Hogwarts Legacy got memory holed pretty quickly, didn't even get nominated for a single award at Geoff's Shilling show
it wasn't that great of a game and i'm sure they didn't want to piss off the trannies by nominating it for a freebie category.. the good sales were a combination of the silent majority wanting to stick it to annoying trannies and millennials waiting 20 years for a game like this.
>the silent majority wanting to stick it to annoying trannies
cute delusion
>the trannies/their allies are the majority
crazy delusion
the majority doesn't obsess over trannies like you do
you people wouldn't need coercion, force and abuser tactics to be "included" in things if you weren't all so fricking awful and repulsive, and seeing normal streamers being called the most awful things just for playing a wizard game was the best possible marketing this game could have gotten. Warner Bros and Portkey Games thanks you for the advertising! 🙂
Who gives a frick about an award show.
Geoff wasn't letting it get nominated for shit out of fear of the troon brigade.
>Shitty troony game bombs.
>Solution: Try to join even more oversaturated market.
Is 2024 the year when game companies speedrun their suicide?
I hope so. The more AAA studios collapse the better. Games as massive corporate products can't hold a candle to games made by a small team of dedicated autists willing to try something different in search of fun.
chuds just need better education to appreciate good games like Suicide Squad
>they're gonna turn harry potter into a slot machine
shame, hogwarts legacy had potential
>make ok single player game
It sells like hot cakes
>make shitty GaaS
It bombs
"Hurr durr, market is too volatile. Lets just make phone games instead"
you can have that suicide squad team make a f2p, mobile or a fricking board game, it'll still fail
I thought israelites were supposedly good at business
These WB morons are reaching old Sega levels of stupid
Suicide squad has an apartments worth of people playing it and Hogwarts Legacy is one of the best selling games all decade
What the frick are these morons doing? how could they possible see any good in doing nothing but live service and phone crap
Who runs this fricking company?
The only thing I can think of is that they think it's the IP at fault. HP is undoubtedly bigger than Suicide Squad, DC in general at this moment.
Boomers and Gen X are legitimately moronic and have no ability to understand anything beyond their bubble. I don’t even mean that in a troony woke loving way, they’re just moronic and close their brains off to anything that confuses them and doesn’t work exactly how they envision it should.
>they won't make hogwarts legacy 2 because of da trannies!
eve & dough they're working on a harry potter tv show with rowling right now
You're right, I forgot about that. This makes things even worse now.
Not doing a sequel to Hogwarts Legacy when you have an upcoming TV show remake of HP is fricking crazy.
>Warner Bros calls AAA games "Volatile"
I mean...
Time to whip out some AAAA games instead.
I'm still astounded that they managed such a succesful and beloved franchise just like that
>ESG
>Talentless diversity hires
>Sweet baby
>Suits that think they can pull the same shit they pull on TV/Movie on vidya just because "is all entertainment"
>WB
I'm not surprised at all, western companies especially those who have deep links with muttnistan have no corporate memory thanks to the hustle culture, hence they have no sense of value for their possessions.
>"volatile" market
>He pointed out that one of WBD's latest big games, Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League, was a disappointment for the company.
No one saw that coming. No one.
To think they even delayed the game for another year, what a joke.
>as well as continuing to invest in live-service games that people play--and spend money on--over a long period of time.
>--and spend money on--
Pretty brazen thing to say. I mean it's no surprise, but businessmen usually don't show the man behind the curtain so carelessly like that.
Nobody could have predicted suicide squad would flop! Nobody!
>Rocksteady will now be making nothing but mobile games
SAD! MANY SUCH THINGS!
>Implying Rocksteady will still be around after Suicide Flop.
>Small studio with passionate people makes great game
>gets attention/bought up by big publisher
>publisher starts butting heads with studio execs
>studio only produces yearly crunch slop
>publisher can't possibly fathom on how this could happen
>Must be the execs
>Studio gets gutted and relegated to support roles
>A year later it gets taken behind the shed and shot
It keeps fricking happening and I don't undertstand why. If you've got a succesful studio and team wouldn't you do anything in your power to keep it this way? Is this a control thing?
Boomers and israelites. Thats what it is. Every industry is going through this. Fast food is going insane with their pricing because boomers think they can keep getting exponential growth on the back of zoomers and millenials. We are being treated like a piggy bank for anyone 55 and over
Never underestimate moronic businessmen who worship a green line.
it plays off greed and fear
greed: original owners get a nice paycheque and sell
fear: "what will next year be like? do we have enough cash stashed to make payroll for 3 years while we work on next game which may flop? with big publisher backing us, we can make payroll and I don't have to lay off bill and joaquin, bill's wife just had their 2nd kid..."
rocksteady is already dead anon
as soon as that piece of shit shipped sefton hill took like 100 vets with him to form a new studio because he was sick of WB's bullshit. they are in name only
https://www.ign.com/articles/founders-of-batman-arkham-developer-rocksteady-start-new-studio
>>The company envisions a future Harry Potter game where you can "live and work and build and play in that world in an ongoing basis."
So, how much of that money goes to JK?
>ignoring successes and doubling down on failures
>treating games like stocks
If game's journalism is where failed journos dwell, then game development is for failed stockbrokers. Frick off already.
BATTLE PASS HARRY POTTER LIVE SERVICE GAME INCOMING?! HELL YEAH
I mean if they were going to make a GAAS game it should have been harry potter. They chose the wrong IP to do this with. Its too late now anyway
Literally all they had to do was add online features and cosmetics in Hogwarts Legacy
The problem isn't the live service aspect, it's the devs being incompetent
Just make a gacha
>you play as some random dude that gets caught up in the story, somehow, who cares how
>could be alternate timeline, a sequel, a prequel, whatever
>interact with all the characters
>all the characters join the gacha
>watch as the Luna banner breaks sales records
But WB doesn't have devs as good, or even willing to just ripoff that model
Don't we already have 2 mobile Harry Potter games?
Wizars Unite and Hogwarts Mystery
>You WILL wagie in the gaming cagie and you WILL like it
Not knowing your game is gonna blow up and sell 25 million copies and forgetting to pack it with monetization is 'Volatile'
>Be Successful
>NO! Not like that!
>We made a lot of money but not enough REEEEEEEEEE
I hate business people
Is Vince McMahon running WB? Getting mad at games that don't have his permission to go over?
Live service slop is the Roman Reigns of video games
I really hope Warner Bros goes bankrupt already
The divide between the corporation and the individual is so vast, they might as well not even exist on the same planet. It really should be the journalist's job to ask a simple question.
>Your AAA game was successful, while your Live Service game was a disappointment, and yet you wish to go forward with more Live Service games? Can you explain this?
But no. The journalist exists in the pocket of the corporation. So the corporation's decisions will never be questioned. They will never face accountability, unless it comes in the form of poor sales.
Console gaming is a deadend. The future of gaming is mobile, why waste money on expensive AAA games when you can spend far less and have a mobile game that makes it's money back easier?
>why waste money on expensive AAA games when you can spend far less and have a mobile game that makes it's money back easier?
Because mobile games aren't fun
The most expensive game in history is a mobile game
Live service games are huge money drain
FRICK THEM.
Frick Harley.
No, never that Harley
The part that is pissing me off is thinking it will probably end up making a lot of money because of Harry Potter, But it could easily be dead in under a month
I was gonna buy Hogwarts Legacy sometime soon but now im gonna wait until their next live service drops then buy it, so they can seethe at the wrong number going up
>Hmmm, we have a singleplayer game that made us a lot of money and we have a live service that lost us a shitton of money
>Better keep pursuing live service games lol
I honestly believe publishers are just mouthbreathing trend chasing morons that can't form their own thoughts or opinions, they just run to a beat that another business moron was succesful with
They're so fixed on the notions of infinite profitability and infinite growth that they try again and again to pursue an infinitely expensive business model that is literally killing itself, and wonder why it is that their projections never seem to match up to reality.
live service + game = lose money
normal game = make money
therefore we need more live service
The damage Destiny has done to the gaming industry is insurmountable. They were the ones that were among the first and did it "right" and are close to bankruptcy now.
>Shit man this game nearly tanked our dev studio
>Better make more of it!
I love shit like this, it's so fricking funny. Entertainment executives are genuinely moronic. Remember when the Green Lantern movie got made to piggyback off of Iron Man's success? You know why they chose Green Lantern specifically? Because GL is a pilot and Iron Man had planes in it. That's the literal reason.
The homosexuals on top don’t fricking understand that IP doesn’t carry shit if the material within is garbage.
How the frick do they get through all of life thinking that the actual qualities don’t matter, and then they fricking end up on top of it all, deciding things solely on brand power and recognition instead? How fricking soulless, and I really fricking hate using that word. That they think people are either as “smart” as they are; when they actually think we’re as easily entertained as they are, or that they just think we’re fricking cattle that blindly follows.
And it really fricking doesn’t help that we all know they don’t even try to play video games. That moron Zaslav is a fricking blight.
Disney and Kevin Feige thought we would buy whatever goyslop they made after end game and learned a hard lesson there. These people are out of touch. Watch the Madam Webb interviews everyone just assumed it would be popular because it was attached to Marvel.
Warner Bros literally created a movie and then refused to release it just to get a tax write-off
How come when they do that, the movie doesn't become the property of the taxpayer?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyote_vs._Acme
They also canned a bunch of animated shows so they could try to push Velma.
Isn't that what happened with Batgirl too?
Yeah but Batgirl was at least unfinished, this movie was completely ready to be distributed
i'm wondering if it was just really, really bad. it was made by the old WB studio heads that were burning money with all their bad decisions, they shelved the Batgirl movie for that reason even though it was pretty much done. the tax write-off bit is probably just them saving face.
it isn't really bad it's just that they are certain they can get more from israelite Hollywood bullshit than they'd get releasing a movie they're not sure would sell tickets on a blockbuster scale
>learned nothing from Suicide Squad
Can't say I'm shocked. Executives are always moronic.
people should stop explaining it as them not knowing what they are doing. they do know what they are doing, its just that their priorities are making shareholders money in the short term, not making video games, and not long term stability or profit.
Considering how well Warner has been doing over the years, it is fair to assume they have no idea what they are doing.
>Perrette said WBD's recent gaming output has focused on AAA games for console, and that's great when a game like Hogwarts Legacy sells 22 million copies and becomes the best-selling game of the year, but this kind of success is never guaranteed in what Perrette said was a "volatile" market. He pointed out that one of WBD's latest big games, Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League, was a disappointment for the company.
make a reasonably polished single player RPG game based on an existing, established 25 year old IP, treat it well, give it lots of love, it sells a lot
make a live service looter shooter in a series of single player action games that is part of an existing, established century-old IP, fill it with microtransactions and shit on the characters people have come to love, it sells like ass.
blame the market for being volatile.
this is why i keep telling people looking at the layoffs and celebrating to stop, they're losing money due to outside forces not because of their own bad decisions lol. WB looks at the success of Hogwarts and failure of Suicide Squad and instead of begin happy Hogwarts did well, they're now trying to figure out how to turn Hogwarts into Suicide Squad with zero self awareness. and every greedy publisher is thinking like this. the games are only going to get worse going forward.
celebrating layoffs is fine.
saying "vidya is saved!" is not.
The layoffs will just mean that the money they save on salaries will go into executive bonuses instead, as a reward for their bold cost-cutting measures. Then they'll make even worse games, because they won't hire new and more competent people to replace the ones they fired, and the whole thing will repeat until the company collapses under the sheer weight of its own parasitic executive class, who will receive millions in tax bailouts and severance agreements.
i still prefer CEO bonuses over woketards getting paid to shit things up.
It literally does not matter.
Even though Millennials and woke morons complain about bad pay they still slurp up whatever job they can get. Companies own, they pushed this shit and now games are going downhill along with the talent.
> noooo you cant blame people for freely choosing to be corporate drones and bragging about it.
Every single one of you is at fault.
>they're losing money due to outside forces not because of their own bad decisions
>They are unironically ignoring hogwarts legacy success because is not a pozzed game
they don't care about making money they only want to troon out society
>Live service game fails
>Non live service game succeeds
>How about we make another live service game
GENIUS!!!
>makes woke garbage with an insane budget
s-single player and coop games don't sell well guys!
don't care, won't play.
This is just the MMO gold rush all over again from the mid 2000s. Remember when every dev was trying to make their own WoW killer to chase after subscription money? They all failed and went F2P or shut down.
It's really annoying because it's been what, 10+ years of the majority of these live service games flopping and the morons in charge are still chasing the pipedream of infinite money. I wish they'd move on to a new dumb trend/gimmick already, live services don't work.
games are so cost and time consuming to make now it makes sense to spend that money on one game you update over many years instead of a one and done and then you have to spin the process up all over again. it's why the AssCreed and Cawwadooty started being made like sports games with barely changing yearly sequels until they went the live service route themselves.
i actually don't think the concept itself is bad but no one has really nailed the execution since MMOs but those generally have stuff like multiple character slots and grinding so having to wait a few months between content and bi/yearly expansion packs are fine. but that model doesn't really work with action games like Suicide Squad and that one that Platinum did with Square, and devs still haven't really figured it out.
like WB wishes Hogwarts was a live service game but it's so shallow, it would have died on the vine. it would have to be much more of a school sim RPG type thing rather that those elements being tacked on to try to ape on mobile game mechanics like the seeds and potion mechanics.
But if the one big live service game you pour all of your resource into fails to catch on, you're frick, it's a guaranteed death sentence, it's too much of a gamble.
But if that one big live service game you pour all of your resources into does catch on, you're looking at billions over the course of the next decade and zero worry about further funding for the foreseeable future.
If you're not swinging for a home run you're not going to hit a home run. It's that simple.
that's just how these people think. they would rather spend a billion dollars in the offchance they can make 2 billion dollars instead of sure bets that will garner them safe, reliable profit. it's why game budgets have ballooned so fricking much. everyone thinks they're gonna be the next big thing. also western corporate executives/financial types are all, without exception, vicious soulless sociopaths and should be in mental asylums but have instead taken over society.
for all the issues i have with Nintendo's culture they understand this better than anyone else in the industry, it's why they've historically done well. even when their consoles are underperforming they don't sink as badly as Playstation or Xbox do.
GAAS trend didn't really kick off until late 2016 when Fortnite blew up, so just a bit under 8 years.
The thing is though, if your company is the company that comes out with the next WoW or LoL or Fortnite or Overwatch you stand to earn literal billions. And there's no real rhyme or reason as to why one of these games will catch on and why others won't.
The ultimate gamble. You either make it or die trying to get the golden goose GAAS game.
>And there's no real rhyme or reason as to why one of these games will catch on and why others won't.
Isn't it because of ecelebs? The only reason you hear these random games pop off is because of ecelebs. Remember Among Us? Was out already nobody heard of it then Sodapoppin and bandwagoners stream it and now its billion dollar IP with its own kids lineup.
Stremers definitely help but streamers need good games to stream.
That Unreal Engine Steam scam game not too long ago that shot up to top selling spot was due to ecelebs not game quality. Valve had to step in and deliver refunds.
There are outliers to basically every statistic anon. The point is those games are so few and far between you can't just automatically assume that because a game has some streamers playing it, even the top streamers, that it will attain a fanbase.
sauce?
Also, ofc its not always going to be the case that quality = popularity. It justs trends that way more often than not. That why even major ips cant carry the AAA slop anymore.
WoW and LoL predate streamers
Fortnite and OW took off in spite of streamers, not because of.
Steamers can have an effect on random no budget indie titles no one has heard of, to be sure. But they don't really have an effect on something like Suicide Squad.
WoW and LoL existed during Xfire. That's how Sodapoppin and others got started.
Xfire had absolutely zero to do with the popularity of WoW or LoL.
Fortnite was making lemons into lemonade, though. It started out as a cartoony tower defense game with a weak following, then PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds popularized the battle royale formula. Epic took its existing assets, duplicated the formula with some small adjustments (smaller map for more fighting and less travel, more generalized itemization, collectables for MTX), and it accordingly blew up. Companies saw this, brand deals started coming in, and Fortnite became the world's largest digital toybox.
You don't have to tell me the history of Fortnite, I was quite literally one of the people that caused the BR mode to get developed because one of the dudes in my PUBG group was one of the lead designers on this shitty game he always tried to get us to buy called Fortnite Save The World, and after a few months of all of us, including him, b***hing about how bad PUBG ran and how great it will be when some proper AAA studio makes a BR, he got a team of 2 other Epic dudes together during a devjam thing they do a couple times a year to do a quick prototype of what a BR in fortnite would be like, and nearly the entire staff at the devjam stayed way past hours playing the BR because they were having so much fun, to a point where that night it was greenlight and they shifted a ton of resources into making the BR thing a reality.
None of that has anything to do with the fact that GAAS didn't really blow up until 2016 so saying it's been 10+ years of the majority of GAAS games flopping is putting it a bit much. It's been 5 years of a majority of the GAAS games flopping, which is less than 1 console generation and in a lot of case is the dev time for these kinds of games.
You gotta remember Suicide Squad started development in 2017, just at the start of the GAAS craze, and by the time it released the GAAS craze has ended and everyone is basically set playing the same 4-5 GAAS titles while the other dozens fall by the wasteside.
Yup, everyone wants a taste of the Fortnite money, etc.
I warned you "gameplay only" fricks that eventually even the normalhomosexuals will turn their nose at this woke shit but noooooooooooooooo that cannot beeeeeeeeeeeeee you're all incels/secondaries/poltards/2016 election tourists/etc/moronation.
Lmfao now you will end up playing with your dicks because AAA is going away and you'd rather slit your own throats than play gacha games, because that's the future you chose.
>not posting the sonic edit with rings
>it’s capitalism!
>it’s out of touch boomers!
>its a recession
No, no don’t get it twisted, chuds were right the first time. Go woke go broke
I was cautiously looking forward to a hogwarts sequel that was less generic, but nah. Apparently it will just be a game based on the mobile game bullshit that was already in it
really a shame because whoever is in charge of art direction and doing the design of the castle at that studio is really fricking good but it's just being wasted
Good, let nature heal itself.
>make a shitty game
>try to masquerade it behind wokeness for brownie points
>game bombs
>blame the market
Kek.
I wish corporate suits would go on more epic adventures.
That's rich coming from WB. Funny that when they left Rocksteady to do their thing they made them a bunch of money with their Batman trilogy by simply making good games. Yet when they tried to copy it with Origins they stumbled. And Suicide Squad I don't even need to say anything as the results speak for themselves.
We don't like being aggressively monetized so stop doing that shit and you'll find you might actually make some money you greedy fricks.
WB said you can have X amount of funding for a single player game, or you can have X+Y amount of funding if you make it a GAAS game.
Rocksteady decided to take the extra cash and make it a GAAS game.
It wasn't until like 2 years into the games development that WB suggested they make it a Suicide Squad game, as it was previously just some new IP that Rocksteady was working on.
The fault of the game is 100% on Rocksteady, not WB.
Is this like Sony getting tricked into releasing Morbius twice?
>well we had a single player game wildly succeed and a multiplayer live service game fall flat on its face
>WE GOTTA GET MORE MULTIPLAYER LIVE SERVICE GOYSLOP NNNNOOOOOOWWWWWW!!!!
>Refuses to make good game
>actively pozz their games
>wtf guys nobody is buying?
>we made a really bad decision
>despite having ample evidence on how to do it right
>we instead will make an even worse one
Oh well, Rocksteady is dead anyway. Have fun burning even more money.
Does this mean I can buy the rights of Carmevil from them for dirt cheap?
Video game players are some of the most easily pleased and braindead consumers on the planet. Calling your own failures "volatile" because you chose to listen to the people calling your fans racist and sexist is not the industries or the consumers fault. Taking your D list villains, have them beat beloved super heroes and piss on their corpse is one of the most moronic moves I have ever seen and anyone could've told you what would happen if you release that pile of garbage.
D list jobbers killing A list superheroes is the least of Sum finna suicide squad n sheeit's problems
When will they shut down Suicide Squads servers?
My bet is that end of service announcement comes a day after they release Joker to avoid possible contract breaches.
I actually liked The Suicide Squad movie and consider one of the better modern capeshit movies. sad to see it get run into the dirt but then again, it was always slop from the get go.
Which one? There's two of them.
NTA but The Suicide Squad is the 2021 James Gunn movie, Suicide Squad is the 201X abomination.
I think the first one was better. The second one felt too much like a generic Marvel movie but with curse words and naked dicks.
That's fair. I don't remotely agree at all, but I still respect you explaining why you didn't like the second one and to be honest is probably why I enjoyed the second one as much as I did.
yeah
the good film has "The" in front of it. Maybe not the best decision but it is what it is
All they have to do is make a Harry Potter mmo and they will make billions and yet they haven't.
They are moronic enough to frick it up somehow once they do.
The weird thing about MK is that they've gone back to this multiverse shit twice now (thrice by a broader definition, but I'd consider 9 more of a time travel thing (also to not group it in with lesser games)) and the base roster gets progressively smaller with each entry. In Armageddon they pulled too many asspulls to count to include nearly every single character in the game. Then 11 and 1 just have really selective recurring characters for no reason.
I genuinely feel like these WB and Disney suits want their companies to fail
It's not that they want their companies to fail, it's just that there's no meaningful consequence for them if they do fail. Doesn't matter if the company's stock falls through the floor, they'll have a golden parachute to carry them all the way to the Caymans. There's no liability so long as they have a tax haven and didn't put their name on an inauspicious flight list.
>frick something up
>it sells like shit
>tell people that it's not your fault, it's the fault of the market for being "volatile" and the game was perfectly fine
>it actually fricking works
I wish I had this job. Imagine if you could tell your boss "nothing i could, the market just volatile!" when you fricked something up.
It should be common sense in the industry to be Free to Play if you're going to tack on the ugly cash shop/battle pass garbage. There are rare exceptions, but even then it's considered an ugly blemish that players choose to tolerate.
>game with IP from anti-troony author sells 22 million copies
>sales of better quality game but with troony flags everywhere and other woke themes are disappointing
The solution? Create more free-to-play games on mobile because AAA is so volatile and unpredictable.