Was Elden Ring's scope held back by the PS4?
Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 barely run at 30fps on PS4.
Was Elden Ring's scope held back by the PS4? Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 barely run at 30fps on PS4.
Was Elden Ring's scope held back by the PS4?
Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 barely run at 30fps on PS4.
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ER was downgraded to run on PS4
>no, ER's scope is huge as it is
Elden Ring sold 20 million in one year on PS4, PS5, Xbone S/X, Xbox Series S/X and PC.
If it were exclusive to PS5/PC, it wouldn't have sold half.
ER is a successful title, but it's funny to me nobody ever considered how important it being cross-gen really was.
It was available on nearly every platform.
The perks of releasing a game on the cross-gen release window. It's the reason why GTA5 sold like hotcakes, so do ER.
>It was available on nearly every platform.
Demon's Souls and Bloodborne were completely forgotten because they are stuck on Sony consoles.
Dark Souls 1 is available on nearly every platform.
>PS3
>Xbox 360
>Windows
>PS4
>Xbox One
>Switch
Shame they never ported DS2 SOTFS to Switch.
>ER is a successful title, but it's funny to me nobody ever considered how important it being cross-gen really was.
Bravo Sony
>Sony revealed that the Demon's Souls remake had sold 1.4 million copies
>If it were exclusive to PS5/PC, it wouldn't have sold half.
Because sales were totally split equally among all platforms.
Compare cross-gen games maybe? These all looked more or less the same as the PS1 version.
Soul Reaver: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFQEsKHouos
Dino Crisis: https://youtu.be/0kmZz0xW0GI?feature=shared
Resident Evil 2: https://youtu.be/b4Ir9eaUiF0?feature=shared
Not really
Just lazy devs as always
I have a hacked base PS4 lying around. I wonder if it'd be worth to apply the patch anyway even if I don't get many frames out of it, just to fix the horrid frame pacing.
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It was rigged from the start. Oh and it's the dev not the console.
Another humiliation ritual thread for anons so we bully dragonirian into a shallow grave.
It's funny when you see a thread and know it's a seething reference to a post in another thread
no, ER's scope is huge as it is
Why was this in Fallout new vegas
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Theres a schizo that hates us talking about Elden Ring. One of the anons is keeping us updated on a quest hes foing to catalog all the hidden flowers in the game.
That post is an attempt to 'bait' that anon. The sisters dont know how to converse with us as people.
I am like 90% sure that is from NMC's texture pack, not the base game
That anon is actually Oxhorn, we finally found xhem
Well if there's anything g to be learned here
It's to not be having a ps4
The guy who leaked the game when it was still called Project Great Rune certainly thought so.
>The guy who leaked the game when it was still called Project Great Rune certainly thought so.
tfw Dark Souls 2 was downgraded to run on PS3's shit hardware
tfw From have been stuck on PS4 hardware for 10 years
At release, people like DF said the best way to play ER performance wise (locked 60 and 100% stutter free) was to run the PS4 version on PS5. Is that still the case? Wish we could get that on PC too.
>Wish we could get that on PC too.
How bad is the PC port?
Depends on your hardware but it does stutter a bit on everything as far as I know. Stutters a lot on my 5700xt. DF had a video about how there is no way to solve this entirely with just more hardware because of how it works, but stutters are softened by faster PCs. Not sure what if anything changed since then. My experience is about the same.
>Stutters a lot on my 5700xt.
Why aren't you using a 7900 XTX and 7800X3D?
Frick I never thought of that. My bad.
I should add it only stutters in the open world so apart from a few dragons (and even most of those are fine because they stay in one place) it's super playable just annoying and ugly considering how much you ride around in this game.
Wasn't the stuttering issue due to dx 12
It's due to both EAC and shader compilation, DX12 for whatever reason pins the responsibility of compilation onto devs, which naturally, they never do, so every DX12 game (or nearly) past 5 or so years had this issue.
>tfw you bought PTDE port back in 2012 and this ultimately contributed to FROM success and recognition allowing them to make Elden RIng.
Be happy that ER is on PC
>Be happy
make me
It's fine but suffers from shader stutter (it stutters whenever you see a particular graphics effect for the first time, so it gets better the more you play.)
The traversal stutters never go away though.
>Still has compilation shader stutter.
And people b***h about the DD2 performance issues. Shader compilation stutter is the worst fricking thing in existence.
It's easier to forgive elden ring for stuff, even things that should be inexcusable, because it's actually a pretty good game.
I like both, but shader compilation stutter is horrendous.
People like elden ring, it's that shrimple
>cultist seethes about the fact the game for which he literally made shit up to defend is forgotten within month
My 3600 could run Elden Ring at consistent 60 fps just fine if I lowered foliage from ultra to high, while in DD2 I'm lucky to get 35 fps in cities.
>cultist
Pajeet completely unable to grasp the fact that people can like multiple titles and also shader compilation stutter is still hot shit, and you're poor.
>3600
lmao.
>>3600
>lmao.
5600 is 20% faster, 7600 is 40% faster.
And not even 7600X can run DD2 at consistent 60 fps. I don't understand your point beyond self-own
>5600 is 20% faster
20% is fairly significant, Rajesh. And besides that, yes, shader compilation is more abhorrent than low FPS, it was so abhorrent my main means to play ER is PS4 on PS5, which doesn't have that issue.
But naturally someone like you could never afford to do such a thing to begin with.
>20% is fairly significant, Rajesh
120% of 30 fps is 36 fps.
140% of 30 fps is 42 fps.
So much for significant. You won't be able to bruteforce 60 fps for 30 fps PS5 game like DD2, unless you have absolute top tier, not even 7800X3D is enough in the cities.
>And besides that, yes, shader compilation is more abhorrent than low FPS
I must have been lucky, as I played Elden Ring week after release without noticeable stutters, beyond traversal stutters, which is something I particularly hard noticed in RE4.
CPUs don't linearly scale like that, moron.
My CPU is estimated to be 30% faster than the ones in consoles, yet I get nearly double the performance.
>I must have been lucky, as I played Elden Ring week after release without noticeable stutters, beyond traversal stutters, which is something I particularly hard noticed in RE4.
Then you'd be lying, because factually, ER is known to have stuttering due to EAC and shader compilation.
By 20% I mean practical performance, not theoretical performance, dumbass, based on actual in game performance metrics.
>Practical.
It's approximate estimate and theoretical in a lot of cases (essentially all), Rajesh. You gave no frame of reference either for how you were comparing performance, just a vague "5600 is only 20% faster." Learn English then get back to me after shitting up your nearby street.
And just an FYI because you're a fricking moron, my sole point was just how much I hate shader compilation stutter, because it's worse and I'd take overall lower FPS just to avoid it.
Here, moron, now jump in front of the train.
That just proves what I am saying, which is that it's an approximate and theoretical estimate.
>Practical performance.
It's all roughly approximate and will vary, off yourself, good lord. Nobody who speaks English as a first language would use such rhetoric. Not to mention immediately shitting yourself and throwing around "cultist" when I once again said that I prefer shitter FPS because I hate shader compilation stutter that much.
>theoretical estimate.
The point of benchmark is practical performance, genuine moron.
What you are posting is going to be theoretical and approximate in most cases, moron.
>This is a rough estimate of how this CPU compares to this other CPU.
And it's cute how you're blatantly ignoring all my other points, it'd very inconvenient for you, Rajesh to acknowledge them.
In other words you would rather eventually cherry pick some imaginary example that would prove your CPU to be significantly superior, instead of something any average gamer WILL experience right now?
Everyone understood what I meant by saying "it's 20% faster", while you're doubling down on your pseudo intellectual mambo jambo
A CPU may be listed as "20% faster." This isn't universal or concrete, a CPU may have a different infrastructure, it may have more cores, a different cache, CPUs generally don't scale linearly. I am told my CPU is 30% faster than another one, then I get nearly double the performance, it's not linear. This is just such a minor inconsequential (not to mention self-evident) fact, stop wasting my time.
And repeatedly I have told you this, because you are a dumb street shitting homosexual who is blatantly ignoring what my intent and view is, I hate shader compilation stutter, to the extent that I'd take lower FPS (even largely) just to avoid it. Calling you poor is a jab, it's rhetoric, it's not important.
Look at the actual gaming performance.
3600 runs DD2 like shit
5600 runs DD2 like shit
Even 7800X3D runs DD2 like shit considering how much of an upgrade it is over 3600.
Intel equivalents are just as bad.
All I see that my 3600 needs an upgrade and no CPU currently on the market will satisfy the need of actual 60 fps for the rest of this generation.
At least I'm aware of this, instead of coping like a homosexual.
I called DD2 to run like shit on pretty much any CPU as soon as they showed requirements last year, and got constantly called tech illiterate by the very same coping homosexuals.
>homosexual rambling, not reading.
Shader compilation is shit, I would prefer lower FPS, don't care nor reading anything else.
Based on my experience it wasn't as bad as you people make it to be. Maybe because I didn't bother playing online.
In TW3 "next gen" update I felt it constantly, at the top of traversal stutter.
>Based on my experience
Well yeah, because you're lying lol.
Why would I lie? I don't even consider myself From fan, I didn't even finish Sekiro or play Armored Core.
I'd say so, but I hate the EAC stutter (it's really not that bad, but personally I can't stand it).
Remember when DS2 was downgraded?
DS2 despite being jank and visually unpolished, is easily the most influential of the PS3/360 games when it comes to gameplay mechanics, that's why Tanimura was co-director for DS3 and ER.
Trying too hard troondawg
I still vehemently believe DS2 could be fixed by some filters and post processing and minor touch ups. Like it has these actually good looking areas like Majula and Heide's Tower of Flame, in addition to small glimpses here and there of what they were trying to do. And no I don't mean awful reshade shit it would have to be done properly, but it would work. I think.
Das2 is broken in it's foundation. It cant be fixed by putting makeup on a pig.
>Das2 is broken in it's foundation. It cant be fixed by putting makeup on a pig.
DS2 has some of the most interesting ideas in the series, but the content of the game itself is incredibly poor relative to DS1 or even DS3. Its development was a disaster, and it shows. The DLC is better than the base game. Whether you think it's mechanically sound or not is personal preference, but a lot of people dislike its mechanics as well.
>>Das2 is broken in it's foundation.
I agree
It was held back by the dogshite open world.
so why does the PS5 version run worse?
Than what?
than your overweight mother
Oh, then it runs worse due to low caloric intake.
PS4 version on PS5 runs better because it looks much worse current gen. PS5 version is much more GPU heavy. You can watch DF video on israelitetube if you want to know more.
Also it's running on DX11 or whatever equivalent the PS4 uses. Point being no shader compilation bullshit that came along with DX12 and Vulkan for god knows what good reason.
PS5 isn't using DX, sony has their own API, after all game is backward compatible between PS4 and PS5. Shader compilation is only a thing on PC because it's not fixed platform.
DX11 also has shader compilation but the driver took care of it instead of game dev.
>With great power comes great responsibility
Devs can't handle that.
Clearly I should stop trying to retell a video I watched 3 years ago but I'm pretty sure they made the point that the older API PS4 used, when running on PS5, made it free from stutter, which as you said must be the traversal stuff, that still plague all other versions even with full local shaders. That plus it runs great because it's tuned for old hardware but running on a PS5.
Yup, ER has a lot of traversal stutter, it doesn't go away even after running through the same area multiple times unlike "shader" stutter on PC. But because PS4 version has a lot less objects and low LOD it's not as severe on PS5.
The game engine Sekiro and Elden Ring uses appears to render the world in chunks/sections depending on where the player currently is.
The PS4 just uses LODs. LODs, range from high-resolution models for close-up views to simplified versions with fewer polygons for distant or small representations. By using lower-detail models for objects far from the camera, developers can optimize performance without sacrificing visual quality.
Before update this game was drawing grass pretty much 30+ meters ahead and now I have it popping in as close at 5 meters ahead.
PS4 version on PS5 uses low LODs.
>GrassLodRangeParam.csv
>LoadBalancerDrawDistScaleParam.csv
>LoadBalancerNewDrawDistScaleParam_win64.csv
>PartsDrawParam.csv
>SpeedtreeParam.csv
>literally no difference
Why doesn't Elden have crossplay?
Sony players would be at an extreme disadvantage.
>The 6 player limit was lowered to 4 because the fricking ps4 couldn't handle that many people
I'd believe it
Not really, 8th gen consoles can do open world games just fine
Hell, I'm yet to see a 9th gen game that couldn't run on 8th gen consoles with worse graphics and lower resolution