This. It's not like the story is great or anything, it's effectively just a framework for the characters/worldbuilding to be hung on. His charisma is what made him work, and why Borderlands 3 utterly failed, both due to the annoying antagonists and the world by that point having nothing to build on, so it just looks at the camera and references itself constantly. Kinda how Far Cry 6 was so fricking tired of itself it turned into a parody with DLC episodes of the decent times.
Solidus' story and how its told is a moronic villain, but his dialogue and VA are just so goddamn good it doesn't even matter.
The writing just took a huge dump.
BL2 had horrible writing itself, don't get me wrong, but it could be called writing at the very least.
BL3 is just such a fricking piece of shit in terms of story and characters. A lot of shit doesn't make sense. Some of it is genuinely forced and not even subtle about it either.
It's less than worthless.
No, you’re just used to being an atomized zoomer who can only consume things through the lens of hatred, branded with the inability to enjoy anything without safely disguising your actual feelings with a thick layer of ironic detachment
he's the single best thing borderlands had as a series, though I'm not sure if his character were assassinated or not, I've haven't played 3rd game and what came after
He was barely mentioned in 3.
Presequel tried to get you to relate to him and did a terrible job at it.
Tales from the Borderlands did the same thing but a million times better and actually made me pity the maniac a little.
I imagine such a huge operation is a pain in the ass
You probably have 200 sub services, subcontractors, have to deal with locals authority/politicians, with the company that owns the satelites, the insurances companythat actually pay for the respawn, the banks; And what about other people dying ? you don't want the hyperion sock to move an inch ! Aaaand what are you gonna do with your gazzilion nanomachines now USELESS because you shut the reswpawn net off ???
the new-u stations aren't canon, they're just a game mechanic. Why do you think he didn't just immediately respawn when he died? Or Roland for that matter?
What made him a good villain? I liked BL1 but I actually almost fell asleep playing BL2. The dialogue is actually annoying to the point it stressed me out and I had to filter it out of my hearing just to continue the game. But what I did follow was not unique or impressive at all. He was just a generic villain guy, what's the big deal? Because he has a daughter that players want to frick or what?
It gets really really fricking jarring when the game creates such a good and charismatic villain they have to go out of their way to paint him as "evil" every now and then to remind you that you're the good guy and you're not supposed to like him.
>LOOK THE DAUGHTER CALLED HIM A FRICKFACE BEFORE SHE KILLS HERSELF LOOK HOW BAD HE IS, HE'S A BAD FATHER SEE?
>It's just gross and inorganic
Well, yeah. What did you expect out of the holier-than-thou homosexuals who wrote the story?
Anthony Burch is a huge cuck and a disingenuous homosexual.
That part reeks of Womanism
Just because he made his daughter work for him doesn’t mean he “tortured” her, which is hot anyways. It’s not his fault she doesn’t like being pumped full of juicy eridium.
>then to remind you that you're the good guy and you're not supposed to like him.
Because every borderlands game spends every moment making the "heroes" look like completely amoral sociopaths that they need to pull some sort of whiplash inducing tone shift whenever they need to make you think they're in any way heroic. That's why I don't buy the whole "BL2 was the only well written game" thing because it's full of that crap, just cause Jack is interesting doesn't make up for that other shit.
>spends every moment making the "heroes" look like completely amoral sociopaths
surely you're joking?
the first time Jack refers to himself as the hero and the vault hunters as the "bad guys", he does so while telling a story about killing a guy's daughter, then gouging his eyes with a spoon because he tried to charge him with it
BL1's story was more gripping and mature than BL2 and BL3 just forgets entirely about what made BL1 engaging.
You can really tell where their priorities lie in terms of writing, and although the gameplay is okay and actually improves, the story just keeps nosediving in quality.
I was hype for BL3's gameplay reveal, and wanted to play it, but never got around to it because the game basically seems like the one you turn off all dialogue and mute all characters if you want to have a chance at beating it before you say frick this shit.
It's pretty unfortunate because the gameplay clearly improves with each sequel, but the writing just gets worse. In a game where people are constantly talking to you, that seriously ruins the whole thing.
I'm replaying them all these days and actually, i thnk the writing shift happened because of BL1's DLC. They really were the first occurence of "ironic" slightly political subtext and I remember everyone was like "OMG General Knoxx is such a GREAT boss and storyline" so they made 2 entirely in this style
and then 3 well because of gamergate mostly
I can buy a corporate army of robots and underpaid goons but I could never buy the COV as enemies. Just the fact that somehow all the bandits are united on Pandora while the protags were doing frick all apparently?
The biggest problem in BL to me was making all the Vault Hunters into 'badass hero' icons instead of just being glorified treasure/bounty hunters. They constantly state several times how much Pandora is an utter shithole of a planet where the population is dumber that rocks, every piece of wildlife or fauna want to kill you and practically walking 10 steps will get you afflicted with some horrible disease. All of a sudden 10 seconds later they'll say they need to save it.
If they do BL4 I really hope they finally give us Vault Hunters who don't give a shit.
Nah he was great. He had a good motive, was sadistic while being funny and clever. Obviously some people do overrate him, but in general he deserves praise.
What kind of moron rated him highly in the first place
No
Practically saved the game with his charm imo.
He's just entertaining. Not the best villain ever or anything.
>saved the game
The game is still very good
The powercreep sucks in the late-game, but for a shooter its not that bad, I guess.
This. It's not like the story is great or anything, it's effectively just a framework for the characters/worldbuilding to be hung on. His charisma is what made him work, and why Borderlands 3 utterly failed, both due to the annoying antagonists and the world by that point having nothing to build on, so it just looks at the camera and references itself constantly. Kinda how Far Cry 6 was so fricking tired of itself it turned into a parody with DLC episodes of the decent times.
Solidus' story and how its told is a moronic villain, but his dialogue and VA are just so goddamn good it doesn't even matter.
He's a good comedy villain, comically evil while claiming to be the good guy, golden compared to the twitch streamer twins in the next game
>Twitch streamer twins in BL3
The writing just took a huge dump.
BL2 had horrible writing itself, don't get me wrong, but it could be called writing at the very least.
BL3 is just such a fricking piece of shit in terms of story and characters. A lot of shit doesn't make sense. Some of it is genuinely forced and not even subtle about it either.
It's less than worthless.
No, you’re just used to being an atomized zoomer who can only consume things through the lens of hatred, branded with the inability to enjoy anything without safely disguising your actual feelings with a thick layer of ironic detachment
"Ironic detachment" is a millenial thing
he's the single best thing borderlands had as a series, though I'm not sure if his character were assassinated or not, I've haven't played 3rd game and what came after
He was barely mentioned in 3.
Presequel tried to get you to relate to him and did a terrible job at it.
Tales from the Borderlands did the same thing but a million times better and actually made me pity the maniac a little.
Kek, his character literally dies at the end of BL2
>he's the single best thing borderlands had as a series,
You really must not like playing these games then.
He is a funny comedic villain with a bit of charm, but once you get to thinking about it, you realize he was actually in the right too.
Jack was the only good villain cause his voice actor threw away Anthony Burch's shitty script and ad-libbed everything.
why didnt he just turn off the respawn terminals? the Black person literally ran hyperion
why choose him to run the respawn terminal company of all companies???? what the frick were they thinking
Borderlands 1 spawn terminals where also runned by hyperion fyi, so they brought it over to 2
jewbris
I imagine such a huge operation is a pain in the ass
You probably have 200 sub services, subcontractors, have to deal with locals authority/politicians, with the company that owns the satelites, the insurances companythat actually pay for the respawn, the banks; And what about other people dying ? you don't want the hyperion sock to move an inch ! Aaaand what are you gonna do with your gazzilion nanomachines now USELESS because you shut the reswpawn net off ???
the new-u stations aren't canon, they're just a game mechanic. Why do you think he didn't just immediately respawn when he died? Or Roland for that matter?
He was great, but overused.
nope, he and gage are what made b2 tolerable
>le butt stallion xD
Actual reddit shit
it was released in 2012 so it was Ganker humor
What made him a good villain? I liked BL1 but I actually almost fell asleep playing BL2. The dialogue is actually annoying to the point it stressed me out and I had to filter it out of my hearing just to continue the game. But what I did follow was not unique or impressive at all. He was just a generic villain guy, what's the big deal? Because he has a daughter that players want to frick or what?
Fun egomaniac that believed in what he was doing, the fact you get his daughter killed also builds him up well
It gets really really fricking jarring when the game creates such a good and charismatic villain they have to go out of their way to paint him as "evil" every now and then to remind you that you're the good guy and you're not supposed to like him.
>LOOK THE DAUGHTER CALLED HIM A FRICKFACE BEFORE SHE KILLS HERSELF LOOK HOW BAD HE IS, HE'S A BAD FATHER SEE?
It's just gross and inorganic.
He calls the player the villain and himself the hero the whole game so its kinda fitting
>It's just gross and inorganic
Well, yeah. What did you expect out of the holier-than-thou homosexuals who wrote the story?
Anthony Burch is a huge cuck and a disingenuous homosexual.
That part reeks of Womanism
Just because he made his daughter work for him doesn’t mean he “tortured” her, which is hot anyways. It’s not his fault she doesn’t like being pumped full of juicy eridium.
>then to remind you that you're the good guy and you're not supposed to like him.
Because every borderlands game spends every moment making the "heroes" look like completely amoral sociopaths that they need to pull some sort of whiplash inducing tone shift whenever they need to make you think they're in any way heroic. That's why I don't buy the whole "BL2 was the only well written game" thing because it's full of that crap, just cause Jack is interesting doesn't make up for that other shit.
>spends every moment making the "heroes" look like completely amoral sociopaths
surely you're joking?
the first time Jack refers to himself as the hero and the vault hunters as the "bad guys", he does so while telling a story about killing a guy's daughter, then gouging his eyes with a spoon because he tried to charge him with it
BL1's story was more gripping and mature than BL2 and BL3 just forgets entirely about what made BL1 engaging.
You can really tell where their priorities lie in terms of writing, and although the gameplay is okay and actually improves, the story just keeps nosediving in quality.
I was hype for BL3's gameplay reveal, and wanted to play it, but never got around to it because the game basically seems like the one you turn off all dialogue and mute all characters if you want to have a chance at beating it before you say frick this shit.
It's pretty unfortunate because the gameplay clearly improves with each sequel, but the writing just gets worse. In a game where people are constantly talking to you, that seriously ruins the whole thing.
I'm replaying them all these days and actually, i thnk the writing shift happened because of BL1's DLC. They really were the first occurence of "ironic" slightly political subtext and I remember everyone was like "OMG General Knoxx is such a GREAT boss and storyline" so they made 2 entirely in this style
and then 3 well because of gamergate mostly
The Hyperion army is really fun to fight. Lot's of variety between the humanoids and loaders.
I can buy a corporate army of robots and underpaid goons but I could never buy the COV as enemies. Just the fact that somehow all the bandits are united on Pandora while the protags were doing frick all apparently?
The biggest problem in BL to me was making all the Vault Hunters into 'badass hero' icons instead of just being glorified treasure/bounty hunters. They constantly state several times how much Pandora is an utter shithole of a planet where the population is dumber that rocks, every piece of wildlife or fauna want to kill you and practically walking 10 steps will get you afflicted with some horrible disease. All of a sudden 10 seconds later they'll say they need to save it.
If they do BL4 I really hope they finally give us Vault Hunters who don't give a shit.
>ultimate badass loader
>also Saturn
Holy based.
Nah he was great. He had a good motive, was sadistic while being funny and clever. Obviously some people do overrate him, but in general he deserves praise.