Wind Waker's visual style was one of the game's strongest aspects, people only hated it because 'it's not like my heckin dark and serious zelda game'
[...] >Wtf miyamoto hated it? I LOVE it now
Frick off.
Miyamoto was the one that said the twilight realm in TP was too dour and changed it from black and white to piss, he was also seething that devs listened to true fans and basically copypasted OOT when making TP, so he said >hope you like it, because it's the last true Zelda you're even gonna have
What's his autism with wanting to add new stuff to sequels, for no reason other than innovation for the sake of it?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Everybody at this point knows Link's Crossdressing Training was Twilight Princess 2, he basically went full mobbing on the dev team and demanded it was turned into a shitty waggle "game".
2 years ago
Anonymous
Unless you really wanted to see Midnas ass again what point would there be to a twilight Princess 2? Most of its ideas were probably just translated to Skyward Sword.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Unless you really wanted to see link in a boat what would be the point of phantom hourglass?
Wind Waker link is the best incarnation, and I will fight anyone, Miyamoto included, on that.
Wind Waker's visual style was one of the game's strongest aspects, people only hated it because 'it's not like my heckin dark and serious zelda game'
No. Miyamoto's a homosexual. WW looked good in 2002, it looks good now, and it will still look good in 20 years. If he found that artstyle "cringe" then he's a moron.
You guys are such homosexuals. Miyamoto isn’t always right, as we all know, but he was right about this.
Miyamoto was in the right, considering Aonuma was literally destroying the fricking franchise.
>Miyamoto was in the right, considering Aonuma was literally destroying the fricking franchise.
This, I have no fricking clue why anyone likes Wind Waker. It's easily the worst Zelda ever made and Toon Link was a mistake.
We got Ganondorf in Melee because of this. >Ganondorf was a very lucky character to be in. To be honest, I had no plans to bring Ganondorf to Smash, but because of various convenient circumstances, he was able to join the fight >I received his model and his traits were clearly defined. The body proportions matched Captain Falcon's and above else, his popularity was high.
Kind of a Monkey's paw. I know a lot of people at least enjoy how he plays in Smash, but Ganondorf would have almost certainly made Brawl with a more unique moveset if he wasn't a Captain Falcon clone in Melee.
>see tech demo >think its a real game >actual game comes out >get assmad when the game looks nothing like the fairy tale you chose to believe
Eternally lmao'ing at every single one of you homosexual cuckarinas of time. You really do get what you fricking deserve.
No. Miyamoto's a homosexual. WW looked good in 2002, it looks good now, and it will still look good in 20 years. If he found that artstyle "cringe" then he's a moron.
There should have been a period where they got more cartoony until WW, the problem is that it came out at the wrong time when people were promised a more realistic game at spaceworld.
he could feel pain directly emanating from his wallet because he knew a realistic zelda utilizing the gamecube's hardware would sell 10x as many copies.
>is in charge of producing 3D Mario games, and ensures they're quality games
i'd hardly call that being a soulless executive, he has essentially taken the role Miyamoto had back in the day.
Please if Koizumi was directing Zelda you’d just use him as a scape goat just like Anouma even though Anouma hasn’t directed a Zelda game since twilight Princess.
>Aonuma gets promoted to producer and brings in Fujibayashi (director of Oracles and Minish Cap) >games immediately improver the GC era, giving us SS and later BotW
I’m pretty happy with this Aonuma/Fujibayashi team. I still miss Koizumi but it’s far better than the GC Miyamoto/Aonuma era.
OOT only wins because it is the Mario 64 of Zelda games (but not as good as Mario 64)
MM is a bad game
WW is the best the game's ever been besides ALttP
Twilight Princess is the best non-WW 3D zelda game
>Miyamoto cringed
Good. Just do the exact opposite of whatever Miyamoto likes and it'll probably turn out better. Nothing he does is good. Even though he prides himself on user controls, the 3-button system he and other Japanese seem to like is fricking garbage and ignored.
everyone did at first, then turned out to be one of the best one. that would be the natural reaction going from Oot serious faced badass link to cartoon link
Same hell I think Zelda 2 is unironically the best 2D Zelda but people just dismiss it over how different the gameplay is and how difficult it can be to newcomers
According to reports he occasionaly pops into dev teams once in a few months and makes arbitrary suggestions. Some of those suggestions used to be good ideas and an improvement, but according to developers and their experiences with him in the past twenty years, he has less good "game" advice and more management advice. He's been like this since the Gamecube days.
I like Wind Waker a decent amount, but imagine seeing this saturday morning cartoon-esque trailer after Ocarina and Majora.
I can kinda see why people were disappointed.
I hated it and I still think it's lame. It's not that the style is even that foreign to zelda, its cartoony style isn't too far off from something like SNES's A Link to the Past. It's the dumbfrick cartoony expressions they give Link and the bumbling idiot enemies that take any feeling of gravity out of the world. I appreciate the artstyle when it comes to the environments, but not the characters. Even without the expressiveness, the characters themselves look stupid, I hate cartoon Link's face and eyes especially. This style would have been better suited to a spin-off, not Zelda's introduction to the GC. Who was the idiot that decided this was the play after the incredible success of OOT?
I remember seeing WW for the 1st time back before it was released and trying to hype myself for it but cringing at the art style. I remember showing my older brother WW and he was REALLY disappointed it and we both thought that OOT had better graphics then it. We ended up not even bothering to buy it because we felt $60 wasn't worth the price for it and till this day i still feel that was the right call. I played Wind Waker many years later on dolphin and thought it was the worst Zelda by far.
I think Wind Waker is great but this really is a terrible trailer and a terrible first impression. They barely show any actual gameplay at all and instead try to focus on the new style and cartoonish animations as much as possible. I understand being proud of the work they put in since it was cutting edge at the time, but really they should have known how controversial it would be an ease people into it. Frick were they thinking?
>knew nothing of WW or anyone's opinion on the game >spend a Summer at my cousins' home >they just so happened to own the game >played the game completely blind >absolutely loved it, sailing is comfy as frick, Link is adorable, and the sailing theme is absolutely subarashii >becomes one of my favorite games of all time
The joys of not being an NPC.
>grr how dare you use anime reaction images on an anime imageboard >:~~*
oh sweet, this npc has different dialogue if you talk to it again
You're both NPCs. One disavows anime completely and the other indulges in moeshit for pedophiles and perverts.
The real way is to enjoy shonen/seinen anime such as Dragon Ball, Hajime no Ippo, Fist of the North Star, ect.
Even the occasional moekino such as Monster or Elfen Lied is enjoyable as well.
You watch moeshit so I can safely assume you're not a DBZgay but rather a evagay.
Sorry, but when you're mexican there are only two animes you will watch primarily, and considering your post history I do not believe you can truly grasp the philosophical magnitude of Dragon Ball, nor comprehend its advanced themes and characterizations.
I am not the anime gay dumbass, i am the gay calling him an npc
2 years ago
Anonymous
Then why would you mention you watch dragon ball right after disavowing someone for liking anime?
If you aren't the moegay then you're a liar and a hypocrite.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Dragon ball is the one anime everyone watched, alongside the football one
I don't think the man who agreed to mario & rabbids crossing over has any right to cringe at anything, no matter how many autists disagree with me cos 'muh chinky who made mario do not disprespect him AGH!'
Miyamoto is a massive homosexual and everytime he opens his mouth now I hate him even more. Wind Waker's only fault was rused development which led to a literally unfinished game, the art style was one of shining points of it and it has aged like wine. WW Link is the most expressive protagonist in any video game to this day
it is literally missing a whole dungeon and you get a wacky and crazy triforce chart hunt that is rightfully optimized in the Wii U version because it was obviously padding and bullshit.
When was Miyamoto was in real said they would be in the fact like this when? I do believe it isn't, but I do. But when? Difficult questions. I don't know when Miyamoto said in the real visual style literally cringed, but I don't think it do, even if you think it do.
Idgaf what he thinks about the graphics. If he really didn't like them that badly he probably could have made Aunuma change them, but personally I'm glad he didn't.
I always thought Wind Waker's art style looked like moronic shit. I even like games with cel shading, but everything in Wind Waker feels so ugly to look at and unfitting for Zelda. It's not about Link being a kid, it's about the art style making everything look even more lame. Feels like people just praise it because Link makes some funny faces.
Twilight Princess' existence was basically the apology for this wack ass game existing. Miyamoto isn't always right, but he was right about this.
>Feels like people just praise it because Link makes some funny faces.
That and because it was their first Zelda. Can you imagine if this pile of shit was your introduction to a series like Zelda?
I'll be honest this is accurate. When I was a kid I played both OoT and WW but to a young kid like me they were both just Zelda. It takes an adult to really look at WW and think of how the graphics ruin a lot of somber/epic moments. Meanwhile OoT was flawlessly capable of both lighthearted moments and serious ones, even despite the original graphics being obliterated by the passage of time unlike WW, it still is easier to take seriously.
>unfitting for Zelda
Part of what makes Wind Waker special is that it doesn't "feel" like a typical Zelda game, but rather like an early 2000s anime-influenced pirate adventure. With that in mind, the art style is perfect IMO.
Maybe wind waker would've been good if nintendo took the chance of the Wii U remake to add the missing content back in
but since for some reason no one ever adds the cut content to a remake it's still shit
A lot of WW's early promotional art was much brighter than the actual game turned out to be, and a lot of the response was similar to the reveal of the LA switch port plus the idea that it would be going for a more childish atmosphere than the previous games. Once the actual game came out and we saw the darker tones of areas outside of Outset+Windfall as well as the serious tone of the plot it was more well accepted, outside of the holdouts from people who were stubborn with their opinions from before the release and took time to budge.
These three games are trash. Literally just worse Ocarina clones. ALBW, Minish Cap and BOTW are the only good Zelda games released in the last 20 years
Wind Waker's artstyle was awesome but the strong negative initial reaction was understandable, it wasn't how most people viewed Zelda back then. Like imagine if they announced Elden Ring 2 and it had Wind Waker's artstyle, no matter how awesome it looked on its own terms a shitload of people would hate it. It's easier to appreciate something on its own merits over time.
Nothing says slave like having all your opinions and actions be decided for you by someone else. Neither Miyamoto nor anyone else has the power to sway my opinions and they shouldn't have that power over you either.
What I'm saying is your opinions should not be swayed by someone else's opinions. Why would things Miyamoto likes or dislikes have any sort of bearings on what you like or dislike. That would be like hating orange juice because some neo-nazi leader said it tasted like israeli cum to him.
I did and still do like Cell Shading.
One thing WW has proven over the decades is it ages really well due to its relative simplicity and can keep a game "timeless" as far as artstyle goes (I still like OOT's graphics but I see peoples point when they say its aged like shit)
My only issue was the character models they went with. The stubby leg, large head with cat eyes looks stupid. I wish they went with something else.
I unironically think young Miyamoto is a fricking creative genius but over the years his mind has somehow regressed into some kind of conservative boomer mentality where he now thinks "Actually, games should only be for dumb children" so he started pushing for really condescending game design that even feels too simplistic for kids above the age of 8.
If you go and read up on old things from Miyamoto, like that recently translated OOT interview. It's clear his intuition and insight on game design is/was insanely good. Like all the things those pretentious YouTube analysts make videos about? He was thinking about that shit 30-40 years ago. I'm sure he's got some good ideas still, but it feels like he's completely drank the kool-aid that all games should be as accessible as possible.
He used to have soul back in the '80s and '90s. He was younger, more ambitious (But in a smarter way), and most importantly, we had Yamauchi to keep him in check consistently (Miyamoto rejected the pitch for MOTHER from Itoi and Yamauchi scolded Miyamoto and told him to apologize to Itoi and to get him back to discuss a deal). Once he died, and Iwata started letting him loose, he began going senile beginning in the 2000s, culminating in Wii Music at E3 2008 as the peak of his unfettered moronation. It's no coincidence that soon after he began the mandate shit with Mario and clamping down on other things. He's been fully beaten down by corporate and is selfish to a fault, cynical, and senile beyond comprehension.
He's like George Lucas, but worse, since the scope of his works vastly overshadow all the bad he's done more recently. His last major game was Star Fox Zero which was an unmitigated flop, so they kicked his keester over to the theme park and movie crap for Mario, yet his mere presence commands authority still over everyone and the ground rules he laid down are still being followed out of fear. At this point, anyone who is a real Mario fan or is in the know about anything just wants him to die already, to put him out of his misery and ours.
I mean seriously, the homosexual started SCREECHING at junior devs during NSMB2's development just because he couldn't understand what the gold block head Mario did. Throughout all of the 2010s he's just been throwing his weight every where and smushing everyone else's projects from Paper Mario to Pikmin to Star Fox, always getting into arguments with younger devs and generally being a stick in the mud. And then in the midst of all this you have reddit soibois seeing red because you dared to insult the heckin' master of vidya Miyamoto.
>(Miyamoto rejected the pitch for MOTHER from Itoi and Yamauchi scolded Miyamoto and told him to apologize to Itoi and to get him back to discuss a deal)
damn, miyamoto got burned even before Reggie came?
He's definitely boomer brained since he still thinks games don't need to be anything more than arcade-like experiences and turned the would have been twilight princess sequel into a tech demo to sell more wii zappers
WW is Aonuma's moronic downie child of course it got two sequels he isn't going to let it go
TP on the other hand was made out of necessity after he almost killed the series with his moron baby a sequel wouldn't have helped it in anyway and would've made it less memorable
People usually get btfo when they see something that doesn't line up with their preconceived notions. The fact that Wind Waker on the GC still looks great today is a testament that its artstyle was fantastic and ultimately the right choice even if people weren't ready for it.
>The fact that Wind Waker on the GC still looks great today is a testament that its artstyle was fantastic and ultimately the right choice even if people weren't ready for it.
You keep preaching this while begging for the HD port on Switch it really deflates it when OoT for example just needed a source port that people prefer vastly over the "remake"
i wish they would remake minish cap. have ILCA do it. even though the DP remake was a travesty, what could possibly go worng? No Four Swords Adventure remake?
posted too soon. for the love of god, why haven't we gotten any remakes of the old 2D games, instead they just port them on to a Mr. Game and Watch which nobody wants? what is going on? just you watch, they're going to announce GCN NSO.
Nintendo should stop porting old games to fill game draughts and instead use their billion to start a couple of games studios that actually create new IPs and games
Anon, you are talking to people who think Miyamoto pinned Tanabe down and butt fricked him until he agreed to do a terrible job on every future Paper Mario game. They don't actually care about what happens outside of their schizo fantasy.
from the history of videogames itself. 2 confirmed interviews and more shit
Anon, you are talking to people who think Miyamoto pinned Tanabe down and butt fricked him until he agreed to do a terrible job on every future Paper Mario game. They don't actually care about what happens outside of their schizo fantasy.
this is also confirmed for sticker star, i don't give a shit about your mandate or tanabe literal who
but it's confirmed miyamoto made them remove the rpg elements for the 3ds one
2 years ago
Anonymous
Do you know how many games don't have RPG elements and turn out good? Stop defending tanabe.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't fricking know who the frick tanabe is
but if you want to make a game without rpg elements
why do you pick a series known for rpg elements?
don't be moronic my friend
2 years ago
Anonymous
ok mandategay
2 years ago
Anonymous
I asked you to prove it not post the same bullshit article moron
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2010/06/turns_out_shigeru_miyamoto_does_like_donkey_kong_country
I think the shitshow over Wind Waker's artstyle could have been mostly avoided if they had just dropped the chibi proportions. The cell-shading and the chibi characters was like a one-two-punch I think, it was just too much. They could have kept the cell-shading and most of what was good about WW's artstyle without pissing so many people off. Which is basically what they ended up doing with BotW down the line, and most people seem to like BotW's artstyle.
Majora's Mask wasn't even the best game on it's own console that year, everyone was wanking over Perfect Dark back then as the greatest game of all time. Only reason it didn't get a 99 on Metacritic is because reviewers complained about the expansion pass being too expensive that's it
>everyone was wanking over Perfect Dark back then as the greatest game of all time
No they fricking weren't they were wanking OoT even back then as the GOAT
The artstyle itself? absolute kino. Only morons at the time hated it and deemed it "Celda". Imagine seeing the spaceworld demo and thinking that it was clearly anything other than just a fricking tech demo. You had your realistic zelda, WW's artystyle still holds up today. It's the evolution of what Jet Set Radio accomplished. It's not easy to pull off, and it's extremely consistent.
WW the actual game though? Aonuma fricked it. Clearly unfinished and rushed out the door. Had it had maybe another year of dev time it would have been considered a classic and have easily been more of a system seller for the gamecube. I'm not sure if nintendo were bleeding that bad that early but they clearly pushed it out the fricking door.
The general public, including Miyamoto were just upset that the next Zelda wasn't the heckin epicerino realistic game they wanted. They got their turn with Twilight Princess and should frick off forever now.
Considering that has always been what Zelda was and was intended to be they were justified in being upset
WW toddlers should shut the frick up about their unfinished bargain bin title and be happy they still get a Smash cameo
Shouldn't you two homosexuals be fricking each other instead of bothering WWchads?
Considering that has always been what Zelda was and was intended to be they were justified in being upset
WW toddlers should shut the frick up about their unfinished bargain bin title and be happy they still get a Smash cameo
I was 8 at the time. I previously played OoT and MM and thought it looked amazing. Link's face was so expressive. I think it still holds up really well.
>characters are shallow as a fricking puddle >caveman girl like fight and chrono >engineer girl likes tech and chrono >princess girl like israeliteelry and chrono >Caveman zone drags on too long and the music is shit >techs (the only thing the game has going for it) are a wasted mechanic because the combat is piss easy and everything can be killed with basic attacks >bosses got creative attacks like counting down from 5 to 0
I remember the GC tech demo showing a neat link and ganondorf fight, thinking this would be the next Zelda game's style.
And then we got this cel shaded monstrosity.
The visual style isn't really the problem with the Wind Waker. The problems lie in every other aspect of the game.
The only thing is some people treat it like "Oh, this game is so beautiful, I LOVE the cartoony artstyle!", when it's just kind of neat.
i wish we got a sequel to spirit tracks something akin to ALBW where we return to the former Great Sea and discover the ruins of ancient hyrule via flight. I want to see the Ritos again in Toon Zelda, but we got some damn postman instead.
BOTW is literally zoomer OOT. The Zelda series was on its way to irrelevancy during the WW-SS era. It took BOTW for the series to finally be back in the spotlight as one of nintendos (and gaming in general) core series.
The sales don't lie and neither does literally everyone's anticipation for BotW2.
BotW may have been a literal tech demo but it's still the first game since OoT to truly captivate people and get them invested in Zelda and its future again.
Know how I know you're all children? I was there. EVERYBODY cringed when Wind Waker was first revealed, because it sure as frick wasn't the Spaceworld demo with that (at the time) awesome-looking Link/Ganondorf face-off. It was something we all had to get used to and, when the game came out, eventually come to love.
If you like mario galaxy 1, you are a human being with a soul. If you like mario galaxy 2, you are a skinwalker autist subhuman soulless robot homosexual, just like that homosexual miyamoto.
Miyamoto is always right. You don't become a producer for Nintendo by being an idiot.
Also the art he was cringing at was the original style, the "realistic" one that they cancelled and replaced with the much better, and timeless cartoon one that you see in that pic.
Wind waker was awesome
>Wtf miyamoto hated it? I LOVE it now
Frick off.
homosexual, I've loved Windwaker since the day it came out, I just said that nobody's opinion, Miyamoto included, will change that.
Miyamoto was the one that said the twilight realm in TP was too dour and changed it from black and white to piss, he was also seething that devs listened to true fans and basically copypasted OOT when making TP, so he said
>hope you like it, because it's the last true Zelda you're even gonna have
What's his autism with wanting to add new stuff to sequels, for no reason other than innovation for the sake of it?
Everybody at this point knows Link's Crossdressing Training was Twilight Princess 2, he basically went full mobbing on the dev team and demanded it was turned into a shitty waggle "game".
Unless you really wanted to see Midnas ass again what point would there be to a twilight Princess 2? Most of its ideas were probably just translated to Skyward Sword.
Unless you really wanted to see link in a boat what would be the point of phantom hourglass?
Miyamoto's taste is notoriously dogshit.
He's right though you need those meds more than he does
You guys are such homosexuals. Miyamoto isn’t always right, as we all know, but he was right about this.
Based
Miyamoto is a homosexual hack, only slightly better than Inafune; it was Iwata carrying his ass all along.
have a nice day.
I loved it from day 1.
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Wind Waker link is the best incarnation, and I will fight anyone, Miyamoto included, on that.
Miyamoto was in the right, considering Aonuma was literally destroying the fricking franchise.
>Miyamoto was in the right, considering Aonuma was literally destroying the fricking franchise.
This, I have no fricking clue why anyone likes Wind Waker. It's easily the worst Zelda ever made and Toon Link was a mistake.
he can act like it, who gives a shit
wind waker was shit, but not because of the visual style
Wind Waker's visual style was one of the game's strongest aspects, people only hated it because 'it's not like my heckin dark and serious zelda game'
Actually I hated it because it only had two real dungeons and both of them involve awful command melody puzzles.
Everyone did. This is what people were expecting.
>basically oot on gamecube
sign me in, frick ww and tp both look like shit
We got Ganondorf in Melee because of this.
>Ganondorf was a very lucky character to be in. To be honest, I had no plans to bring Ganondorf to Smash, but because of various convenient circumstances, he was able to join the fight
>I received his model and his traits were clearly defined. The body proportions matched Captain Falcon's and above else, his popularity was high.
Kind of a Monkey's paw. I know a lot of people at least enjoy how he plays in Smash, but Ganondorf would have almost certainly made Brawl with a more unique moveset if he wasn't a Captain Falcon clone in Melee.
is anyone interested in what that statue in the background is?
>see tech demo
>think its a real game
>actual game comes out
>get assmad when the game looks nothing like the fairy tale you chose to believe
Eternally lmao'ing at every single one of you homosexual cuckarinas of time. You really do get what you fricking deserve.
Funny how everyone forgets.
Everyone was seething when they saw WW at the time.
Wind Waker was one of the few Zelda games actually worth playing, so that’s where he was dead wrong
No. Miyamoto's a homosexual. WW looked good in 2002, it looks good now, and it will still look good in 20 years. If he found that artstyle "cringe" then he's a moron.
Revisionist history. He asked “why aren’t they clapping” when everyone at space world was dead silent.
There should have been a period where they got more cartoony until WW, the problem is that it came out at the wrong time when people were promised a more realistic game at spaceworld.
They weren't promised shit. It was always labeled as a tech demo.
Best Link and Zelda
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This is the only time Miyamoto was ever based on anything. He should still kill himself for the state of Starfox though
he could feel pain directly emanating from his wallet because he knew a realistic zelda utilizing the gamecube's hardware would sell 10x as many copies.
TP didn't sell 10x WW. Stop being a stupid homosexual. It's been 20 fricking years. Get over it.
TP didn't sell 10x WW because WW killed all interest in Zelda
and yet it was better
WW brought in the new audience for nintendo in being a shitty childrens brand
You are actually moronic.
aunmuma ruined zelda
My takeaway from that image is that Yoshiaki Koizumi is the actual bread winner for Zelda. Not Aonuma or Miyamoto.
now yorue getting it . koizimi is the best
unfortunetely nintendop "promoted" him to be a soulless excecutive
>is in charge of producing 3D Mario games, and ensures they're quality games
i'd hardly call that being a soulless executive, he has essentially taken the role Miyamoto had back in the day.
Same deal with Miyamoto. Yet Miyamoto by his own accounts still engages with the development cycle even if he's not a director.
It's both Miyamoto and Yoshiaki
Aonuma has and will always be the dungeon design jockey and nothing more
Correct. That is why Nintendo gave him his own studio and put him in charge of Mario.
they did that because Miyamoto doesn't want him to make Zelda story and lore driven.
>doesn't want him to make Zelda story and lore driven
>sneaks in the best Mario Story instead
Based.
and miyamoto threw a hissy autistic fit.
Nobody cares?
Miyamoto didn't give a rat's ass about Rosalina's Storybook. Koizumi showed it to him directly and he called it impressive
too bad rosalina then got shilled into everyfricking thing imaginable until people started making porn of her
Please if Koizumi was directing Zelda you’d just use him as a scape goat just like Anouma even though Anouma hasn’t directed a Zelda game since twilight Princess.
aonuma leaves
we get skyward sword
coincidence
i think
not
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>Aonuma gets promoted to producer and brings in Fujibayashi (director of Oracles and Minish Cap)
>games immediately improver the GC era, giving us SS and later BotW
I’m pretty happy with this Aonuma/Fujibayashi team. I still miss Koizumi but it’s far better than the GC Miyamoto/Aonuma era.
Imagine rating WW higher than TP
They were still salty about giving ww a high score because it said zelda, so they took it out on TP
OOT only wins because it is the Mario 64 of Zelda games (but not as good as Mario 64)
MM is a bad game
WW is the best the game's ever been besides ALttP
Twilight Princess is the best non-WW 3D zelda game
Minish Cap is terrible, Spirit Tracks is terrible
you can just say ww was your first you know?
>MM is a bad game
>Twilight Princess is the best non-WW 3D zelda game
Absolutely trash opinion
>likes WW
>mogs Minish Cap
You shut your prostitute mouth
>Give Zelda to the guy who is great at making levels
>Give Mario to the guy who is great at writing stories.
What the frick is wrong with Nintendo
You say that as if story is an important part of Zelda games.
It is
>Incel looking guy leaves, Incels get mad.
Any post with the term incel in it invalidates itself automatically
I accept your concession
You mixed up the WW and OoT scores.
Koizumi was on Wind Waker.
Daily reminder that wind waker caused the ds to not get a real zelda game
>Miyamoto cringed
Good. Just do the exact opposite of whatever Miyamoto likes and it'll probably turn out better. Nothing he does is good. Even though he prides himself on user controls, the 3-button system he and other Japanese seem to like is fricking garbage and ignored.
Pic unrelated?
That game is a decade newer than Wind Waker.
I TINK ZERUDA GET STALE SO I MAKE WINDU WAIKA
everyone did at first, then turned out to be one of the best one. that would be the natural reaction going from Oot serious faced badass link to cartoon link
I also was not a fan. I was expecting a game like the tech demo. And this was "gay as frick" as we said back then.
Yes he was absolutely in the right since WW nearly killed the franchise
Ganker will never admit it though because they have a hate boner for the man
Zelda 2 is still the best one
zoomers and shitters frick off
I love Zelda 2 but I don't really compare it to the others. Gameplay's too different. I'm even somewhat like that with MM too.
Same hell I think Zelda 2 is unironically the best 2D Zelda but people just dismiss it over how different the gameplay is and how difficult it can be to newcomers
That's not Oracle of Ages or Link's Awakening
I liked wind waker but yes the style was a bit getting use to.
Does Shiggy even work on video games still? Is he still a Nintendo Employee? What does he even do now?
by all accounts, he just wanders the office halls
And now his autism has led us to wait for another 6 years for another fricking game, even when already having a well developed engine
He works on anything Mario which currently is the movie and theme park
He does consulting for the in house devs iirc. He sent the splatoon guys back to the character design drawing board until they came up with inklings.
According to reports he occasionaly pops into dev teams once in a few months and makes arbitrary suggestions. Some of those suggestions used to be good ideas and an improvement, but according to developers and their experiences with him in the past twenty years, he has less good "game" advice and more management advice. He's been like this since the Gamecube days.
Wind Waker is for sure one of the only games that people only like because of "muh nostalgia"
Absolutely it's THE zoomer nostalgia game
Never played WW as a kid, but it's probably my favourite 3D Zelda
That kind of goes for all games
There are plenty of games that have stood the test of time, and others that are very mediocre and only well-liked because everyone played them.
BASED MIYAMOTO
FRICK SHIT TAKER
FRICK IT TO HELL FOR WHAT IT DID TO ONE OF MY FAVORITE SERIES
When is Wind Waker HD coming to Switch?
Yes he was. This was people's first look at the game. Imagine seeing this Looney Tunes cringe after Majora's Mask and the spaceworld tech demo
What the everloving frick were they thinking
Frick, you can feel the disappointment in the room. Even the cringy uncertain pity claps at the end.
What a fricking disaster.
I like Wind Waker a decent amount, but imagine seeing this saturday morning cartoon-esque trailer after Ocarina and Majora.
I can kinda see why people were disappointed.
>The Virgin LooneyTunes WW Vs The Chad Conan the Destroyer Twilight Princess
They even used OoT's trailer music they knew they fricked up hard with WW
I hated it and I still think it's lame. It's not that the style is even that foreign to zelda, its cartoony style isn't too far off from something like SNES's A Link to the Past. It's the dumbfrick cartoony expressions they give Link and the bumbling idiot enemies that take any feeling of gravity out of the world. I appreciate the artstyle when it comes to the environments, but not the characters. Even without the expressiveness, the characters themselves look stupid, I hate cartoon Link's face and eyes especially. This style would have been better suited to a spin-off, not Zelda's introduction to the GC. Who was the idiot that decided this was the play after the incredible success of OOT?
>gravity
Did you mean gravitas, moron?
Both are correct, actually.
I remember seeing WW for the 1st time back before it was released and trying to hype myself for it but cringing at the art style. I remember showing my older brother WW and he was REALLY disappointed it and we both thought that OOT had better graphics then it. We ended up not even bothering to buy it because we felt $60 wasn't worth the price for it and till this day i still feel that was the right call. I played Wind Waker many years later on dolphin and thought it was the worst Zelda by far.
WW was a huge fricking mistake.
but he makes funny face
I think Wind Waker is great but this really is a terrible trailer and a terrible first impression. They barely show any actual gameplay at all and instead try to focus on the new style and cartoonish animations as much as possible. I understand being proud of the work they put in since it was cutting edge at the time, but really they should have known how controversial it would be an ease people into it. Frick were they thinking?
>knew nothing of WW or anyone's opinion on the game
>spend a Summer at my cousins' home
>they just so happened to own the game
>played the game completely blind
>absolutely loved it, sailing is comfy as frick, Link is adorable, and the sailing theme is absolutely subarashii
>becomes one of my favorite games of all time
The joys of not being an NPC.
liking anime and not being an npc is not possible
>grr how dare you use anime reaction images on an anime imageboard >:~~*
oh sweet, this npc has different dialogue if you talk to it again
You're both NPCs. One disavows anime completely and the other indulges in moeshit for pedophiles and perverts.
The real way is to enjoy shonen/seinen anime such as Dragon Ball, Hajime no Ippo, Fist of the North Star, ect.
Even the occasional moekino such as Monster or Elfen Lied is enjoyable as well.
I am mexican (Yes, i am sorry for me too), to assume I don't like dragon ball is too bold of a move from your part.
A fatal mistake, maybe...
You watch moeshit so I can safely assume you're not a DBZgay but rather a evagay.
Sorry, but when you're mexican there are only two animes you will watch primarily, and considering your post history I do not believe you can truly grasp the philosophical magnitude of Dragon Ball, nor comprehend its advanced themes and characterizations.
I am not the anime gay dumbass, i am the gay calling him an npc
Then why would you mention you watch dragon ball right after disavowing someone for liking anime?
If you aren't the moegay then you're a liar and a hypocrite.
Dragon ball is the one anime everyone watched, alongside the football one
meanwhile BLADES WILL BLEED MOTHERFRICKERS
>turns out better than expected
>turns out as putrid dogshit
hypegays are and will always be moronic
I don't think the man who agreed to mario & rabbids crossing over has any right to cringe at anything, no matter how many autists disagree with me cos 'muh chinky who made mario do not disprespect him AGH!'
Miyamoto is a massive homosexual and everytime he opens his mouth now I hate him even more. Wind Waker's only fault was rused development which led to a literally unfinished game, the art style was one of shining points of it and it has aged like wine. WW Link is the most expressive protagonist in any video game to this day
Get vaccinated
>literally unfinished game
>aged like wine
I know people on Ganker are moronic but they can't be THIS moronic.
He said the game was unfinished, as in the content, but the graphical style has aged well. What part of that was hard for you to understand.
Hard to not age well when it's so simple, just like those who enjoy it.
What is about cell shading that makes people like you so mad?
Try reading the thread, moron.
So a massive amount of insecurity over their hobby. Gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up, homosexual.
Get off the internet, prostitute.
Is that really the best you could think of?
it is literally missing a whole dungeon and you get a wacky and crazy triforce chart hunt that is rightfully optimized in the Wii U version because it was obviously padding and bullshit.
I did too. I hated it for like 10 years
When was Miyamoto was in real said they would be in the fact like this when? I do believe it isn't, but I do. But when? Difficult questions. I don't know when Miyamoto said in the real visual style literally cringed, but I don't think it do, even if you think it do.
Idgaf what he thinks about the graphics. If he really didn't like them that badly he probably could have made Aunuma change them, but personally I'm glad he didn't.
I always thought Wind Waker's art style looked like moronic shit. I even like games with cel shading, but everything in Wind Waker feels so ugly to look at and unfitting for Zelda. It's not about Link being a kid, it's about the art style making everything look even more lame. Feels like people just praise it because Link makes some funny faces.
Twilight Princess' existence was basically the apology for this wack ass game existing. Miyamoto isn't always right, but he was right about this.
>Feels like people just praise it because Link makes some funny faces.
That and because it was their first Zelda. Can you imagine if this pile of shit was your introduction to a series like Zelda?
I'll be honest this is accurate. When I was a kid I played both OoT and WW but to a young kid like me they were both just Zelda. It takes an adult to really look at WW and think of how the graphics ruin a lot of somber/epic moments. Meanwhile OoT was flawlessly capable of both lighthearted moments and serious ones, even despite the original graphics being obliterated by the passage of time unlike WW, it still is easier to take seriously.
>unfitting for Zelda
Part of what makes Wind Waker special is that it doesn't "feel" like a typical Zelda game, but rather like an early 2000s anime-influenced pirate adventure. With that in mind, the art style is perfect IMO.
Maybe wind waker would've been good if nintendo took the chance of the Wii U remake to add the missing content back in
but since for some reason no one ever adds the cut content to a remake it's still shit
Wind Waker would've been good if it was anything other than a main line Zelda game
He probably had a point considering the backlash the graphics got initially. He generally has a good intuition about those things.
Most people had to warm up to the graphics once they actually played the game.
Wind Waker was when Nintendo realized they could half ass Zelda and get away with it.
No that was literally majoras mask
To be honest they kinda deserved to think that. It was miraculous they could make a playable game in the time they had, let alone a pretty good one.
What are you talking about? Wind Waker literally killed the GC and sold like shit compared to OoT and TP.
A lot of WW's early promotional art was much brighter than the actual game turned out to be, and a lot of the response was similar to the reveal of the LA switch port plus the idea that it would be going for a more childish atmosphere than the previous games. Once the actual game came out and we saw the darker tones of areas outside of Outset+Windfall as well as the serious tone of the plot it was more well accepted, outside of the holdouts from people who were stubborn with their opinions from before the release and took time to budge.
or maybe.... just maybe....
the game was gonna be as childish as the promo shit
but due to reception they tweaked and moved shit around????
maybe????
They wouldn't have the time for such a drastic change of tone
I knew it was anouma's idea.
Fricking hack.
These three games are trash. Literally just worse Ocarina clones. ALBW, Minish Cap and BOTW are the only good Zelda games released in the last 20 years
Good thing we aknowledge that Awakening's >swap your sword out to move a rock and jump a gap every 4 seconds
is garbage
ALBW and BOTW are garbage too
Wrong, c**t.
I am correct and you are wrong on every account
Wind Waker's artstyle was awesome but the strong negative initial reaction was understandable, it wasn't how most people viewed Zelda back then. Like imagine if they announced Elden Ring 2 and it had Wind Waker's artstyle, no matter how awesome it looked on its own terms a shitload of people would hate it. It's easier to appreciate something on its own merits over time.
he's never right in the head
If he knew it was shit, why did he let them do it?
>It's fine when Nintendo does it!
Nothing says slave like having all your opinions and actions be decided for you by someone else. Neither Miyamoto nor anyone else has the power to sway my opinions and they shouldn't have that power over you either.
Black person I hated this garbage game since I saw the first trailer way back when.
And that's your opinion, you formulated it on your own.
Both of your posts are pointless. Grow a brain.
What I'm saying is your opinions should not be swayed by someone else's opinions. Why would things Miyamoto likes or dislikes have any sort of bearings on what you like or dislike. That would be like hating orange juice because some neo-nazi leader said it tasted like israeli cum to him.
I cringed and hated it when I first saw the visuals as well, when I played the game it quickly turned into my favorite Zeld.
So yes, and no.
>zelda will never have moments like this ever again
>you had a bad dream
>you were just having a little nightmare
Kino as frick. Getting older only makes me love this scene even more.
Majora's still proves to be the only zelda game with pure, undistilled soul in it
I did and still do like Cell Shading.
One thing WW has proven over the decades is it ages really well due to its relative simplicity and can keep a game "timeless" as far as artstyle goes (I still like OOT's graphics but I see peoples point when they say its aged like shit)
My only issue was the character models they went with. The stubby leg, large head with cat eyes looks stupid. I wish they went with something else.
>that feel when none of the beta remnants of the first TP beta video are not in the final release.
The forest where he fought some enemies is in the final game actually. It's out of bounds in the Temple of Time area.
Wind Waker is a good game, but the art style does suck. Miyamoto was right.
I unironically think young Miyamoto is a fricking creative genius but over the years his mind has somehow regressed into some kind of conservative boomer mentality where he now thinks "Actually, games should only be for dumb children" so he started pushing for really condescending game design that even feels too simplistic for kids above the age of 8.
If you go and read up on old things from Miyamoto, like that recently translated OOT interview. It's clear his intuition and insight on game design is/was insanely good. Like all the things those pretentious YouTube analysts make videos about? He was thinking about that shit 30-40 years ago. I'm sure he's got some good ideas still, but it feels like he's completely drank the kool-aid that all games should be as accessible as possible.
Miyamoto's existence is probably the only thing preventing Nintendo from going full globohomo.
Do you want gay Super Mario, troony Yoshi and super dyke Princess Peach?
No? Then be happy that we have him.
>Do you want gay Super Mario, troony Yoshi and super dyke Princess Peach?
Except we are getting Hollyweird movies of all those soon
He used to have soul back in the '80s and '90s. He was younger, more ambitious (But in a smarter way), and most importantly, we had Yamauchi to keep him in check consistently (Miyamoto rejected the pitch for MOTHER from Itoi and Yamauchi scolded Miyamoto and told him to apologize to Itoi and to get him back to discuss a deal). Once he died, and Iwata started letting him loose, he began going senile beginning in the 2000s, culminating in Wii Music at E3 2008 as the peak of his unfettered moronation. It's no coincidence that soon after he began the mandate shit with Mario and clamping down on other things. He's been fully beaten down by corporate and is selfish to a fault, cynical, and senile beyond comprehension.
He's like George Lucas, but worse, since the scope of his works vastly overshadow all the bad he's done more recently. His last major game was Star Fox Zero which was an unmitigated flop, so they kicked his keester over to the theme park and movie crap for Mario, yet his mere presence commands authority still over everyone and the ground rules he laid down are still being followed out of fear. At this point, anyone who is a real Mario fan or is in the know about anything just wants him to die already, to put him out of his misery and ours.
I mean seriously, the homosexual started SCREECHING at junior devs during NSMB2's development just because he couldn't understand what the gold block head Mario did. Throughout all of the 2010s he's just been throwing his weight every where and smushing everyone else's projects from Paper Mario to Pikmin to Star Fox, always getting into arguments with younger devs and generally being a stick in the mud. And then in the midst of all this you have reddit soibois seeing red because you dared to insult the heckin' master of vidya Miyamoto.
>mandategays still trying to push their dead meme
Cope zoomer, he sucks.
>(Miyamoto rejected the pitch for MOTHER from Itoi and Yamauchi scolded Miyamoto and told him to apologize to Itoi and to get him back to discuss a deal)
damn, miyamoto got burned even before Reggie came?
He's definitely boomer brained since he still thinks games don't need to be anything more than arcade-like experiences and turned the would have been twilight princess sequel into a tech demo to sell more wii zappers
TP really didn't need a sequel and Ganker will never admit it
and wind waker didn't need 2 sequeles but here we are
WW is Aonuma's moronic downie child of course it got two sequels he isn't going to let it go
TP on the other hand was made out of necessity after he almost killed the series with his moron baby a sequel wouldn't have helped it in anyway and would've made it less memorable
daily reminder that Reggie blew Miyamoto when it came to Wii Sports being packaged for free.
>Ganker still pretending that this looks good
The environment was alright but the characters look too moronic.
People usually get btfo when they see something that doesn't line up with their preconceived notions. The fact that Wind Waker on the GC still looks great today is a testament that its artstyle was fantastic and ultimately the right choice even if people weren't ready for it.
That's called coping
Yeah WW still looks great but that trailer was fricking dogshit
>The fact that Wind Waker on the GC still looks great today is a testament that its artstyle was fantastic and ultimately the right choice even if people weren't ready for it.
You keep preaching this while begging for the HD port on Switch it really deflates it when OoT for example just needed a source port that people prefer vastly over the "remake"
Wind Waker didn't even look good when it came out.
i wish they would remake minish cap. have ILCA do it. even though the DP remake was a travesty, what could possibly go worng? No Four Swords Adventure remake?
posted too soon. for the love of god, why haven't we gotten any remakes of the old 2D games, instead they just port them on to a Mr. Game and Watch which nobody wants? what is going on? just you watch, they're going to announce GCN NSO.
Nintendo should stop porting old games to fill game draughts and instead use their billion to start a couple of games studios that actually create new IPs and games
didn't somebody acquire nintendo stocks the other week to fund a new FZero game?
God I hope so
What'd even be the point of a remake? It's not like Link's awakening where the original controls were terrible. It's still playable
Reminder every developer at Nintendo hates Miyamoto
eXPLAIN tHIS
He saw a fake interview about how Miyamoto hated Donkey Kong Country despite actually praising it and using the same techniques for Yoshi's Island
It's actually confirmed miyamoto dissed dkc
and that's the exact reason yoshi island looks hand drawn
>It's actually confirmed miyamoto dissed dkc
Prove it because it's confirmed that all of that was bullshit made up for clicks
Anon, you are talking to people who think Miyamoto pinned Tanabe down and butt fricked him until he agreed to do a terrible job on every future Paper Mario game. They don't actually care about what happens outside of their schizo fantasy.
from the history of videogames itself. 2 confirmed interviews and more shit
this is also confirmed for sticker star, i don't give a shit about your mandate or tanabe literal who
but it's confirmed miyamoto made them remove the rpg elements for the 3ds one
Do you know how many games don't have RPG elements and turn out good? Stop defending tanabe.
I don't fricking know who the frick tanabe is
but if you want to make a game without rpg elements
why do you pick a series known for rpg elements?
don't be moronic my friend
ok mandategay
I asked you to prove it not post the same bullshit article moron
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2010/06/turns_out_shigeru_miyamoto_does_like_donkey_kong_country
tbh yes
People suck WW's dick al the time but I do not care for its artstyle.
t. Peter Griffin
Based, I literally cringe when ever I see any kind of Zelda game.
Miyamoto derangement syndrome: The thread.
I think the shitshow over Wind Waker's artstyle could have been mostly avoided if they had just dropped the chibi proportions. The cell-shading and the chibi characters was like a one-two-punch I think, it was just too much. They could have kept the cell-shading and most of what was good about WW's artstyle without pissing so many people off. Which is basically what they ended up doing with BotW down the line, and most people seem to like BotW's artstyle.
>most people seem to like BotW's artstyle.
I'm not a fan of it or BotW personally but I'll admit I don't outright loathe it like WW's
yes, it’s absolute cringe toddler shit
t. Gen X whiner
He needs to kill himself
idk who that is he sounds like a moronic asiatic but wind waker was good
Objective Zelda rankings
>1998 - 99.2% - 33 Reviews - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - 10 GOTY Awards (Only unanimous GOTY winner ever)
>2000 - 93.2% - 70 Reviews - The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask - 0 GOTY Awards (Chrono Cross, The Sims & Deus Ex got the most awards overall)
>2002 - 95.3% - 170 Reviews - The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - 8 GOTY Awards (Most reader awards)
>2006 - 93.9 (94%) - 93 Reviews - The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - 26 GOTY Awards (Most reader awards)
>2011 - 93% - 81 Reviews - The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword - 19 GOTY Awards (#2nd place among readers behind Skyrim)
>2017 - 96% - 172 Reviews - The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - 262 GOTY Awards (#1 among critics and readers)
>majora
>0 goty awards
>skyward sword
>19 goty awards
holy shit what how
It was fricking crazy living through the Skyward Sword release at the time and seeing the Zelda bonus in action. Fricking unreal.
Majora's Mask wasn't even the best game on it's own console that year, everyone was wanking over Perfect Dark back then as the greatest game of all time. Only reason it didn't get a 99 on Metacritic is because reviewers complained about the expansion pass being too expensive that's it
>everyone was wanking over Perfect Dark back then as the greatest game of all time
No they fricking weren't they were wanking OoT even back then as the GOAT
Why did he frick up the Twilight Princess sequel, then?
What sequel?
Because TP didn't need one it can't even live up to OoT so there's no way in hell it would've lived up to a MM
The artstyle itself? absolute kino. Only morons at the time hated it and deemed it "Celda". Imagine seeing the spaceworld demo and thinking that it was clearly anything other than just a fricking tech demo. You had your realistic zelda, WW's artystyle still holds up today. It's the evolution of what Jet Set Radio accomplished. It's not easy to pull off, and it's extremely consistent.
WW the actual game though? Aonuma fricked it. Clearly unfinished and rushed out the door. Had it had maybe another year of dev time it would have been considered a classic and have easily been more of a system seller for the gamecube. I'm not sure if nintendo were bleeding that bad that early but they clearly pushed it out the fricking door.
The general public, including Miyamoto were just upset that the next Zelda wasn't the heckin epicerino realistic game they wanted. They got their turn with Twilight Princess and should frick off forever now.
You need to frick off. We were here first.
Shouldn't you two homosexuals be fricking each other instead of bothering WWchads?
>WWchads?
Considering that has always been what Zelda was and was intended to be they were justified in being upset
WW toddlers should shut the frick up about their unfinished bargain bin title and be happy they still get a Smash cameo
This is the thread where everyone pretends they liked it the whole time and didn't jump on the hate bandwagon when it was first announced.
I was 8 at the time. I previously played OoT and MM and thought it looked amazing. Link's face was so expressive. I think it still holds up really well.
WW doesn't deserve to be a Zelda title
Why is the WW guy crying? 120 is a pretty high IQ and it's higher than the TP frog.
saying liking OoT is high iq, is like saying liking chrono trigger is high iq
except chrono trigger is a mediocre as frick game
ww gays just cant stop seething no matter where they are
a side effect of their "expressive" link
Chrono Trigger is a god tier game on par with OoT go back to your toddler game about pirates and treasure hunts
>chrono trigger
>not a game for toddlers
If that were the case you'd love it
go back to running entire continents in 7 seconds
or playing your mimic game lmao
the only thing the game did right is making goku marry bulma
its a turn based jrpg. theres literlly no gameplay or fun.
>dragon ball without the humor or power levels
holy GAY
Ganker hated him because he told the truth
>look mom i'm replying to myself
>characters are shallow as a fricking puddle
>caveman girl like fight and chrono
>engineer girl likes tech and chrono
>princess girl like israeliteelry and chrono
>Caveman zone drags on too long and the music is shit
>techs (the only thing the game has going for it) are a wasted mechanic because the combat is piss easy and everything can be killed with basic attacks
>bosses got creative attacks like counting down from 5 to 0
>all these zoomer replies
jesus christ, nuke this board already
only morons and zoomers like chrono trigger
Zoomers don't have the attention span for Chrono Trigger
You're thinking of millennials. Zoomers love retro shit.
Nice cope zoomies
i am 19 and I love chrono trigger you're right
the only jrpg i played haha:)
>i am 19
Good to know so I can disregard your posts completely
No one cares boomer
But I like chrono trigger:(
In fact all of my friends do, jrpgs are amazing fr fr
I had to stop going to /vr/ because everyone there posts like they're 17 years old.
good thinkg chrono trigger is "le timeless perfect jrpg"
the jrpg with perfect pacing for zoomers and people that dont like jrpgs
>the most praise chrono trigger gets it's that its short and to the point
>oh yeah just like zoomers like it
>uh actually it's a slow burn long game
Those aren't zoomers. Those are N64babies who never had Nintendo's best console, the SNES.
Since I never played the game, is Tetra just a "regular" person with Zelda as a dormant personality?
Not really, no. Tetra is a zelda, but even when she changes appearances she doesn't change personalities or whatever.
I remember the GC tech demo showing a neat link and ganondorf fight, thinking this would be the next Zelda game's style.
And then we got this cel shaded monstrosity.
If you like WW then your tastes are shit.
Simple as.
The visual style isn't really the problem with the Wind Waker. The problems lie in every other aspect of the game.
The only thing is some people treat it like "Oh, this game is so beautiful, I LOVE the cartoony artstyle!", when it's just kind of neat.
Wind Waker is for adults.
>fact
Phoneposter leave.
i wish we got a sequel to spirit tracks something akin to ALBW where we return to the former Great Sea and discover the ruins of ancient hyrule via flight. I want to see the Ritos again in Toon Zelda, but we got some damn postman instead.
You got more than enough shitty Wind Waker sequels, homosexual.
the entire point of wind waker's story is that ancient hyrule is no more
i wish tetra's trackers were a full fledged FSA game for the toon zelda verse. vaati hasn't appeared in that timeline.
He and everyone else was in agreement pre-release and I'm suspicious of anyone who says they didn't
triforce heroes was an abomination
>it took until BotW for there to be a Zelda as objectively successful and beloved as OoT
Abso-goddamn-lutely.
>beloved as OoT
Holy delusion
BOTW is literally zoomer OOT. The Zelda series was on its way to irrelevancy during the WW-SS era. It took BOTW for the series to finally be back in the spotlight as one of nintendos (and gaming in general) core series.
>t. Zoomer
BotW is just OoT's hyrule field except bigger and emptier; soulless. It has nothing going for it beside the tons of fake "awards"
The sales don't lie and neither does literally everyone's anticipation for BotW2.
BotW may have been a literal tech demo but it's still the first game since OoT to truly captivate people and get them invested in Zelda and its future again.
homosexual please. Without the open world gimmick it's pretty much the worst Zelda game ever for many reasons.
No, that's Skyward Sword.
Even without the open world/physics it’s basically just a better Windwaker.
Wind Waker is a piece of shit that should not exist, but it was still a traditional Zelda game.
BotW is just shit
Know how I know you're all children? I was there. EVERYBODY cringed when Wind Waker was first revealed, because it sure as frick wasn't the Spaceworld demo with that (at the time) awesome-looking Link/Ganondorf face-off. It was something we all had to get used to and, when the game came out, eventually come to love.
And the blind idiots believe a random journlist. Fricking morons.
Miyamoto is a rabbidsgay so he isn't able to criticize anyone else's taste
if miyamoto didn't like rabbids, the mayro rabbids games probably wouldn't exist at all i imagine
he said it would not sell and sales proved him right
Zelda games are all shit. Who gives a frick.
The gaming landscape as you know it wouldn't exist without the original Zelda, frickface.
God, that would have been a blessing.
yeah, anything to live in an universe where zoomers dont worship new vegas and hollow knight
I liked it.
Yes.
If even fricking Miyamoto saw the writing on the wall I wonder if he was just desperate to be done with Zelda and just let everything happen.
Celda killed what little momentum the Gamecube had before launch.
Twilight Princes is the best looking and playing Zelda. This is an objective fact.
It's murky and depressing.
It's erotic.
Your dad is secretly Midna in disguise. She raised you without you even knowing it.
Damn I wana cum in my Dad (mom).
it's true. to reveal your father's true form, you have to pull his skin off (in Minecraft)
Imagine being a moomer in 2002 and looking at WW and saying "Dat looks gay, it's not reawistic and gwitty like Hawo!"
gayamoto lost his magic long ago, just like toriyama, their opinion is worthless.
WW has so much soul
This. Regardless of your feelings on the game, one thing that cannot be disputed is WW is soulful as frick.
The Y2K era was a golden age for pop culture.
If you like mario galaxy 1, you are a human being with a soul. If you like mario galaxy 2, you are a skinwalker autist subhuman soulless robot homosexual, just like that homosexual miyamoto.
I like both.
Mario galaxy and 2 are the worst 3d mario games
3d world doesn't even count
they are literally the same fricking game??? what is this logic
>t. soulless robot autist
He lost his talent as a project director of any sort after LttP, so no.
He was right
Miyamoto is always right. You don't become a producer for Nintendo by being an idiot.
Also the art he was cringing at was the original style, the "realistic" one that they cancelled and replaced with the much better, and timeless cartoon one that you see in that pic.
homosexuals will literally just lie to defend their autist simp daddy for free. God white gen x'ers deserve to be genocided.