Was this game made with a budget of 10 bucks? What the frick. I'm playing it for the first time as someone who loved Tetris Attack and the whole thing feels ridiculously budget, like it doesn't feel like a first party Nintendo game at all
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You were born in 2004?
1990. Why?
>admits to being born in the 90s
The zoomer exposes himself
Not the guy you're talking to, but now I'm curious: I was born in 89', so do I get to be part of your gay, pea-brained in group that pathetically parrots braindead shit like "HURR THOOM THOOM DURR" in a pathetic attempt to finally be part of the popular clique that rightfully spurned me in grade school, or am I going to have to continue to live through the insufferable torture of judging character on an individual basis and actually making an independent effort to formulate my own ideas on things?
Cause, I mean, shit man. It's only one year. Does that make me a completely different stereotype or what?
Shut up, zoomer. Go back to your N64.
You sound like a gay, but zoomers' first console was a PlayStation or N64, no exceptions. That guy who said being born in 90 is trolling you or is a complete moron.
I'm a millennial and my first console was N64 because my mom was anti vidya until she wasn't one day
I meant that they can't have had any console older than the Nintendo 64 or PlayStation. I should have stated that more clearly. I was born in the very early 90s, and most people I knew didn't have a console until they got an N64, so I know you're not wrong. But zoomers didn't play Genesis or Super Nintendo (or original Game Boy or Game Gear) as their first console ever, I meant, as they didn't have older siblings that had those (like I and many other early-'90s Yoomers did).
My kids first console was the Wii. She was born 10 years after it first released. You're a homosexual.
I'm sorry your mom prevented you from being a part of the Millennial Gamer master race
yes thank you friend
moron, zoomer grew up with shit like a 360 or a Wii, they were born in the 21st century
Zoomer cope.
If you were born from 1981-1996 you are by definition a part of Gen Y a.k.a. a millenial.
"Zoomer" is /vr/'s new way of saying "newbie", I believe.
every magical generational tribe name is any community's way of saying "don't pay attention to me because I'm stupid enough to talk about these magical tribes as if they exist and are important"
Look at this underageban thinking he's a philosopher.
yoomer
>96
Lmao no. Let me guess, you're a '96 zoom zoom.
>zoomers' first console was a PlayStation or N64, no exceptions
But I was born '92 and my first console were the NES and SNES followed by the OG gameboy
That's because you're not a zoomer, dude. Zoomers (born in 1997 and later) would never have gotten an SNES much less an NES like you did. Maybe at a garage sale or something like that, but never before those were considered "vintage" or "retro."
Not for zoomers born in 3 world country. I know people born 00s who had Mega Driver as their first video game.
>born '92
>NES and SNES followed by the OG gameboy
You are my twin.
I was born in '89 and my first console was a PS1.
See
Zoomer's first console was PS2 or Wii moron.
I was a poor and lonely boy who didn't get into gaming until I was about 8-9, so my first console was a DS. I was born in '97.
>thinks those born in 1990 are zoomers
and the moron exposes himself
Zoomers start at 1997.
people born in the '90s really need their own moniker.
it makes no sense to group us with millennials, most of whom barely touched a computer until they were in high school, and zoomers, most of whom struggle with any device more complex than a phone
You're not some special cookie, the fact that you want a special label for being born in a 5 year time span is stupid. In 100 years everyone born in the 60's-90's will be lumped into one massive generation, same as people born in the 2000's-2030+. People complain about Boomers and it was a 20 year span
>But the internet!
That's not the single factor generations will be split on, but a variety of cultural changes over a big period of time. No one separates generations that arbitrarily when it comes to stuff before the 1900s; no ones saying "people born in 1845 were so different from those born in 1853!" So stop worrying and just play games.
People who were young during the civil war were very different from their predecessors. Political cycles track these trends in generations very well. You can usually mark the beginning of a cycle with a "catastrophe" of some sort: the revolutionary war, civil war, ww2, and (it's still up to debate) either 911/08 recession/covid. The generation that was born prior to the crisis and lived through it as young adults come out "veterans" and usher in big government, hence the Reconstruction era. Children raised during the gilded age/Reconstruction became reformers, seeing the horrible corruption, and that's how you got a generation of muckrakers and the Prohibition in the early 20th century. (the equivalent of young boomers/hippies) After them was the Lost Generation, who died in ww1 and tended to be cynical/greedy/addicts (like GenX). Then the Greatest Generations who fought ww2 and supported the New Deal and big government. The rest is modern history and it's repeating itself again. I expect generation alpha to be the new boomers who are very revolutionary and subversive when they're young.
Anyone with a simple knowledge of major events in US history can see these obvious trends and their public support. It's open knowledge to anyone who does a basic search online. Unless the internet is destroyed and books burned, or history is completely rewritten (very possible), then people will absolutly differentiate between millennials, gen x, zoomers, etc. There are an insane amount of records compared to even the 19th century, let alone fricking 355 BC. Hard to tell the difference between generational antiquity when all you have are some plays and poetry, probably not even original and copied by some monk 1000 years later.
355 BC might be a difficult time to categorize Roman generations, but 2000 years later we know all about the differences between romans born before and after Sulla, Ceaser and Octavian's civil wars.
>millennials, most of whom barely touched a computer until they were in high school
Black person what?
>millennials, most of whom barely touched a computer until they were in high school
Nice larp.
In case you aren't larping, I offer my condolences on your early onset dementia.
baaaaseeed
You huge moron you don't even know when the zoomers started being born. Here's your generation lesson homosexual:
1946-1964: Boomer
1965-1981: Generation X
1982-1996: Generation Y (Millennials)
1997-2011: Generation Z (Zoomers)
2012-2026: Generation Alpha (tentative name that will probably change by the time the first of these people become adults in 2030)
You're lucky to have me anon
1981 is definitely the first Millennial year, and 1997 is arguably the first zoomer year.
I've always argued that the introduction of Windows95 into the home world is the start of the zoomer generation, and it always ends the debate.
>1981 is definitely the first Millennial year
The entire point of calling that generation millennial is that they came of age during the millennium you fricking idiot.
>The entire point of calling that generation millennial is that they came of age during the millennium you fricking idiot.
Yes, being in college is also "coming of age." Arguably more influential on how a generation is.Not just being a little kid who had no effect on the outside world besides watching cartoons and playing video games. All the 80's stuff talking about "Gen X" was about teenagers and young adults, not the little kids watching He-man. The 60's Summer of Love was influenced by college kids.
Seriously the term millenials was defined long before people on Ganker took it to mean "people who were kids when Pokemon came out and owned the SNES as toddlers"
>The 60's Summer of Love was influenced by college kids
That was 1967 and my mother was in High school whilst my father was coming home from Vietnam, neither was in college.
Just like I may be categorised as a Millennial yet I never played pokemans and my first console was an Atari 7800.
They were still around college age, though. Anon seems to think Millenial only means being a kid back then; it refers to a generation of people affected by the gradual changes in the late 90's through early 2000's. The person born in 81 who was a college student in 2000 is a millennial. The person born in 83 who was just finishing high school is also a millenial. The person who was born in 90 and playing Pokemon cards in 2000? Also a millenial. All these people would be affected by things like computers being more ubiquitous in everyday life.
If you couldn't post here when Ganker started you need to leave.
No Pokemon game ever felt like it had money and effort put into them except Gen 2 and Gen 3 mainline games.
Snap? Pinball?
gen 3
opinion discarded
what effort? the only effort they made was intentionally pissing off the fanbase by nuking everyones monsters and making them non-transferrable from gen 2 onwards; literally almost killed the franchise
as a kneejerk reaction nintendo basically forced GF to make FR/LG (games they didnt want to make whatsoever) hence them being so dry
gen 3 was the last soulful gen
I think everything up to the switch to 3D was kind of soulful. It wasn't good, but it had some soul.
Gen 3 removed too much from the previous gen to be soulful.
Other the SLIGHT graphical upgrade it felt like a major step back.
Gen 3 also had a bunch of convoluted additions on how to evolve Pokemon, as well as locating them.
>That one fricking fish that only showed up on 5 water tiles in the whole game
What were they thinking
they weren't. pokemon was done after the first gen.
Nah gen 2 was a great sequel. It was really the only game that ever felt like a sequel.
typical zoomie opinion
it was either 2 or 5 depending on how anal you are, but definitely not 3
zoomie opinion
>anything after at most 4 has a trace of soul
Ok, actual zoomer.
>was either 2
>full of pokemon that evolve using stones
>has a limited number of stones in G/S
>most of the pokemons you see up to gym 5 are from Kanto region
>many cool Johto pokemon are only find in Kanto region
That game has way too many problems, mate.
>what effort?
The effort of overhauling the whole data structure of the games instead of reusing gen 1 spaghetti code. They were actually new games.
I loved Gen 3, but don't pretend it had effort put into it. It should have looked like Golden Sun, Car Battler Joe, or Mega Man Battle Network rather than a GBC game as it does. It also was extremely lazy to remove the day/night cycle which deservedly hyped (and delivered) when Gen 2 was announced. Gold and Silver were the last Pokemon games made with any effort.
>I loved Gen 3, but don't pretend it had effort put into it.
RS were made from ground up as the dev's first games for a new system.
>Gold and Silver were the last Pokemon games made with any effort.
GS were built from gen 1 assets for a system the dev was already familiar with.
I'm not even arguing which ones are the better games, because there are plenty of low effort good games and vice versa, but saying an asset flip takes more effort than a whole new game is illogical and dishonest.
G/S really reused very little from Yellow. A lot of data structures and code were extended or totally rewritten. I'd say maybe 60-70% new code.
>except Gen 2 and Gen 3
spotted someone who don't follow their development history at all.
they could have commissioned Flagship to help with Gen 3 but GF were stubborn donkeys.
oh and this dropped last week, someone translated some old interviews and ask some GS devs on the Coliseum games: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WohS2WgtSk
this made me hate Shitenn even more and i couldn't be more glad someone is popping off on chicken fricking furries and fujos.
do you really need high budget for a puzzle game
Would certainly help if the budget included putting a $50 bill in the box.
i recently loaded this on my ED64 and was very disappointed. soundtrack sucks, voice overs are not entertaining, sound effects suck, gameplay is boring. went back to playing puyo sun. nostalgia definitely made this game something entirely different in my mind. i must have just not given a shit or had as much exposure to other titles back then to have been balls deep into it. more than likely misremembering it all. point is that this puzzle game sucks ass.
Oh I love panel de pon as a core game. I've dumped hundreds of hours into other versions. But this version in particular is really off putting
It's a Gameboy RPG from the mid-90s you autist
Sorry I was stoned on weed and thought OP was talking about the 1st gen GB games.
yeah you are sorry you fricking burn out
i remember when i was the one making fun of weedgays. it'll happen to you too. homosexual.
It won't because the smell is vomitive.
you will never experience the giggly euphoria of posting on Ganker blazed
based my comrade in weed!o7 pokemon puzle leage is the best game ever btw.
as someone who loves Tetris Attack and Pokemon Puzzle League, i dont see where you're getting this feel from. It definitely runs smoother than Tetris Attack and it's AI is way better.
Is it the lack of animated character sprites to represent who you are? (something Dr. Mario 64 has and i think Puyo Puyo Sun)
It's because it's a heavily localized version of Panel de Pon 64 where the localizers largely had to work off stock assets. Also Panel de Pon 64 never actually came out in Japan. (it did finally see release on the Gamecube, though)
i downloaded and played that just now, i can definitely see how PPL comes off as low-budget. guess im just biased cause of nostalgia and panel de pon is backed by god tier gameplay, i never thought about how PPL is practically a game full of jpegs. still has great music and questionable good/bad voice clips
>recently found prototype
>not dumped
oh come on. i get i can play it on gamecube but i want it on my everdrive 64
hopefully Ken helps pass a law that will put japanese scalpers at gunpoint for not releasing their out of sale shit in public then applied on overseas by some congressgay
I felt like the Yoshi retheme was a lot better implemented in Tetris Attack than the Pokemon retheme was in Pokemon Puzzle League
I think it's what I said earlier, PPL is all jpegs.
Tetris Attack and Panel De Pon 64, you have animated sprites representing you during gameplay. Imagine seeing a sprite of pikachu using thunder when you do a chain. Also PPL doesnt have any animated backgrounds either.
Does that version even support 240p? Or is just 480i locked?
The game is fine but I wish the pokemon you play as had some kind of effect beyond just the visuals.
100% agreed.
Avid fan of Tetris Attack, I rented this for a weekend and never touched it again. The game just didn't feel right.
I felt the same was playing the gamecube PDP. The art was so muddy and blurry that it looked super off putting, especially compared to the crispness of the snes version.
It's based on an unfinished proto of the N64 Panel de Pon ver., and this one has been finished by the American branch
I don't understand the complaint as it's my favorite of the Puzzle League series. All games after that were stripped of personality
Western devs. The whole game feels like one of those cheap "activity centers" CDs due to the heavy use of stock material.
It's this. The menus are just one step above using comic sans
I'm gonna take you down
Yes please
Even as a kid I knew to avoid any game with shameless stock images. Stuff like that works fine for cereal or spaghetti-o's but for a game you know you're getting nothing but a pile of lazy shit. Why is it so obvious? Because if they gave a shit about developing a unique experience they'd end up with unique assets for the cover.
Gamefreak had no clue how to program on the N64 (or at all really). Satoru Iwata had to port the combat system over to the stadium games because they couldnt do it themselves.
Hey you pikachu was also developed by a completely different company called ambrella.
Gonna echo the stock photo comments. Even as a kid I always disliked how sterile all the Pokemon stock art advertising was. It felt like there was only like 1 or two stock images per character/Pokemon so you'd ALWAYS see the same frozen image.
I much preferred the watercolor/marker art for the games. I bought walkthroughs just because they had that art. I'd photocopy those images, cut them out, and paste them on folders and other stuff to make my own merchandise because I preferred those stock images to the anime ones
As a result I have a knee-jerk reaction on the Gen 1 sprites and will always prefer them to the anime design synergy that the later games ended up with. I liked the wonky, ugly look of a lot of the monsters
those stock images got so boring back then
This made me think of ANOTHER trading card set you could get when Red/Blue were still hot. It wasn't like the TCG, was just for collecting, but they exclusively used these types of stock photos. It was cheaper thana TCG pack so if I were at the store I'd buy a pack if I only had enough for them. They were such trash but I was totally in the pocket for just buying Pokemon shit.
The topps set, probably. Actually looks like some of the cards were recolored versions of Sugimori's art from the bandai trading cards, made in a more digital coloredstyle.
Another set of these Topps cards were just bad screenshots of the anime because that's how crazy people were over Pokemon back then,you could just stick shoddy vhs shots on cards for $4. This is also where that infamous use of "pikablu" on licensed merch comes from,Topps just called marril on one of their cards by the rumor name.
those topps cards were everywhere back then because they were the only pokemon cards you could get at walmart. I used to trade pokemon tcg cards for bunches of them since they had lower value than the actual pokemon tcg cards
Yup, this is exactly what I was talking about. Thanks for the info anon, and damn right about printing ANYTHING with Pokemon on it and kids eating it up. It's weird trying to explain just how fricking crazy Pokemon was back then to kids now, I remember just spending money on any shitty toy as long it was official pokemon mech.
Also lel at pikablu, I actually remember that.
My mom finally let me get pokemon cards for getting good grades and we got these. I dont think I cried but I was disappointed beyond words
Memory unlocked. I remember these shits existed in my life from pre-K to 1st grade.
The best not-tcg cards were those holographic evolution cards that would change the evolution stage depending on how you held them, I loved those things.
There was somwthing about that promo art pic of Ash and friends running in the background that always rubbed me the wrong way due to how dopey the artwork looked.
Doesnt help that the early pokemon anime art style was the thing that was used for those terrible anime parodies you see in cartoons during these period and the following 5 years and of course (gulp) DEVIANTART.
it looks like it was taken straight from a still from the anime
frick you, deviantART actually used to be a great website until the late 2000s when it got tainted with fetish shit from Nintendogays.
I agree with you on the stock promo pic of Ash and gang tho
>when it got tainted with fetish shit from Nintendogays.
People use to blame this shit a lot on Sonic homosexuals but Nintendogays were pushing the buck more than those furries could do, even if you put aside the Pokemon frickers, which doesn't help much by far.
I won't ever forgot that one artist who drew fricking mpreg werewolf luigi who's in a incestuous relationship with his brother. What the frick is this shit?
Well how about that, someone else remembers.
I very rarely ever came across Sonic autism on the site. It was nearly 95% of the time Pokemon gays and Starfox gays. And their shit was always given Daily Deviations constantly. Arvalis got their start over there too, along with tonnes of roasties doing Nintendo stuff.
People really like latching onto Sonic but Nintendies were a whole other degree of weird. Impossible to escape. do you remember that one artist who's fursona was a literal Pikachu and was constantly on the frontpage because of their gay autism for some literal who? or that Kecleon weirdo who got caught up in some shit with underages over Mystery Dungeon inserts? that shit was fricking wild man
oh gosh, you just awoke a memory of a stupid badly done religious book i was given at school, is hilarious to remember it was made by an adult
They were able to get the anime voice actors so they had some sort of budget
Do you think 4kids voice actors were big name celebrities or something? It probably cost like 100-200 bucks per actor to call up 4kids and ask them to have them record a minute of random dialog.
Anon theyre the people who own the ip... of course the voice actors are going to come record a few lines. 4kids and the actors themselves would be absolute morons to tell the company bankrolling them no. That is an extremely bad PR move to make.
Then play a different game?
Are you autistic?
It's an anime tie in game, not a regular Pokemon game. Close your eyes and pick an Evangelion game at random and you will understand
I played eva 64 recently and really dont get why people coom over that game.
It feels like one of the laziest "IP adaptation" games you would have found at the time.
Hearing all the music in the sm64 soundfont is funny at least
I'M GONNA WIN
MY POKEMON RULE
TOO GOOD FOR YA
KEEP ON TRYIN
AW, POOR BABY
WORK HARDER, YOUNG ONE
PLAY WITH ME
I TOLD YA SO
WHEN YOU'RE HOT, YOU'RE HOT
GO, GO, GO
AW MAN
I'M FEELING GIDDY
YOU ARE WASTING MY TIME
THE WORLD WILL BE MINE
CAN'T WIN EM ALL
(Stock elephant noises)
I'm going to win
I never even bothered with this game besides renting it one time
>rents game
>doesn't play it
>buys 200 games during sales
>play minecraft
look, it happens
Yeah in the digital post-scarcity era where you're buying games in bulk. But not in the days of blockbuster. The only time I came close to that was because I worked at Hollywood video and would rent ps1 games, for free, and copy them before returning.
I played it and realized it was a boring puzzle game with a pokemon theme slapped on
Did the box art not tip you off? Or perhaps the name?
>boring game with pokemon theme
So if anything, it was ahead of its time
I was born in 1994 and I grew up with the Gamecube.
Although I did have an N64 also, (mostly to play Pokemon Stadium 2,) but I didn't use it until the Gamecube era, so... Also, I had original carts of Pokemon Puzzle League and Challenge growing up but I got rid of them cuz I never really played them. A couple of months ago I bought Challenge on the 3DS eShop and I've actually enjoyed playing it now. I've also been enjoying playing League on the Switch.
I was born in 1994 and grew up with a SNES and N64 stop larping. The gamecube didnt come out until 2001, you're telling me you didn't play shit until you were at least 7?
That's not what he said moron. Age 7-13 is definitely growing up. Under 7 is just bashing the buttons to see Mario jump
>Under 7 is just bashing the buttons to see Mario jump
No thats like 3. By the time you're 5 or 6 you can play relatively straight forward games no problem.
t have a niece who made it all the way to the jack in the box in DK64 on her own
How old are your kids?
Responsible parents don't raise their toddlers on vidya. I'm sorry your parents were crackhead losers.
Before I was 7 the only person who played games in my house was my dad and my mom and I used to tease him about it. It was when I played Pokemon Crystal in 2002 for the first time that I became addicted to video games, and I was 7 then.
Same
I grew up with the switch.
tfw not one good pokemon game
The Gameboy Color version Pokémon Puzzle Challenge is god-tier. I like the N64 one as well, but it's very thin on content. The SNES version has more variety at least with the different backgrounds and themes.
Dr. Mario 64 however is much worse.
Just play Pokemon Puzzle Challenge instead.
This cover is so fricking bad, like it was made by a student struggling to learn photoshop
it kind of works, ironically.
Pokemon Puzzla Challenge is better
>Puzzla
Yah, it was so much betta. It was also pretty comfa.
I quite the puzzla myself
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That's stupid. Life and tech in the '60s were nothing like in the '90s. How can anyone call it the same gen?
Because you were close enough to understand the progressive difference. In time it'll be lumped in 20-40 year chunks, or more.
See how many people outside of cultural experts in 200 years. There's differences between people born in 355 BC and 348 BC too, but in the grand scheme of things its lumped together.
You know we're living in 2022, not 400 BC, right?
And that everything in this thread, at most, has 80 years left to live?
Why do you care so much about the longevity of a word that we only need for the current epoch?
imagine talking about the game the thread is about
think nintendo will ever give us panel de pon 99?
To this day I cannot tell what the frick James says in his combos
I prefer SNES Panel de Pon.
For all the zoomer LARPers still in this thread:
Back in the day we didn't immediately dump a console when a new one came out like you kids do. The world in general moved slower and adoptions of new technology went at a similar pace. I still played my SNES long after the N64 came out, the same is true for the GameCube.
I actually know exactly what you mean, OP
Is it maybe the midi-as-frick versions of music from the TV show?
It definitely feels cheap, but it atill has charm to it. Though the OG dub voices do a lot of the heavy lifting.
Is there any reason no one has tried to translate Nintendo Puzzle Collection? You would only need to do Panel de Pin and Yoshi's Cookie, as you could just use the NA localization of Dr. Mario 64
WHEN YOU'RE HOT, YOU'RE HOT
WHEN YOU'RE HOT, YOU'RE HOT
WHEN YOU'RE HOWHEN YOU'RE HOT, YOU'RE HOT
WHEN YOU'RE HOT, YOU'RE HOT
WHEN YOWHEN YOU'RWHEN YOU'RE HOT, YOU'RE HOT
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