was this responsible for "movie game"

was this responsible for "movie game"

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    mmm

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      no because it has actual gameplay

      >moviegame
      huh? It barely even has any cutscenes?
      Probably melodramatic japshit with cutscenes out the ass are responsible for movie game shit.

      No. In reality it was Heavy Rain that pioneered it. I would argue that Omikron and Farenheit could consider as well, much like all of David Cage's games. But Heavy Rain is how we got gaming to be like this.

      thank you

      this entire thread linked over here has been morons arguing that BioShock 1 started the trend of it being a movie game with other people rightfully pointing out that it isn't

      [...]

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Half-Life 2 didn't start it, my answer was correct with what i stated about David Cage. Mention David, he's the one responsible for it all.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          my bad I know HL2 didn't start it. I'd lay the blame at Naughty Dog personally with the Uncharted series but Heavy Rain is also good. I'll be sure to link your post

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >my bad
            English as a language is moronic and makes no sense.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nah that's moronic. His games are pretty much just point and click adventure games, those were never anything other than an interactive story.
          The actual answer is CoD. CoD made "cinematic action games" popular. MW1 specifically, they've been building up to it with earlier games but MW1 was the movie game that had a huge impact on the industry and led to moviefication of all sorts of genres. Kind of obvious really, if you were there at the time. There were many movie games but none had that kind of impact on other devs.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >His games are pretty much just point and click adventure games, those were never anything other than an interactive story.
            No they are not point and click adventures game, shut the frick up you moron. You don't play those games because they're nothing like David Cage's games.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              You walk around, you click on things, you solve light puzzles, you make choices. Granted he leaned more into choices than puzzles but it's the same genre. I grew up playing those games don't teach me what they are, zoomeroid

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes you walk around, don't you? that is a not point and click, we are not talking about the same genre here. Don't you go throwing around the zoomer label when you make a catastrophic frick up with that comparison. Did you randomly get interaction prompts while interacting with doing specific motions in the game during playing Monkey Island or Gabirel Knight? did you control a camera in a point and click adventure game and move the whole character direction 360 degrees at will with the press of button to completely change the perspective you were looking at? don't say something so fricking stupid you dumb c**t. Don't make that comparison without putting a gun in your mouth for being such moron. These are fundamentally different things. Point and clicks still get made today.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            I think the treyarch cods are noticeably more movie-gameish than the infinity ward games. waw, black ops games are way more linear with way more scripted events. maybe they're more similar nowadays, i only played up to BO2

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do you also consider Mafia and Max Payne movie games?

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    no because it has actual gameplay

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    it was responsible for all the Penderecki abuse

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    it was responsible for popularizing audiologs, one of the worst trends in vidya

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      this. a few logs are fine but so many and illogically spread out.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty sure that honor goes to Doom 3

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >moviegame
    huh? It barely even has any cutscenes?
    Probably melodramatic japshit with cutscenes out the ass are responsible for movie game shit.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      this
      Weebtard games like Yakuza and Final homosexualry are literal movie games and did this shit way before western games followed suit.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    No. In reality it was Heavy Rain that pioneered it. I would argue that Omikron and Farenheit could consider as well, much like all of David Cage's games. But Heavy Rain is how we got gaming to be like this.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not so fast!

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        No FMV games are not the same thing about as we're talking about here. Completely different format. Do they count as movie games? yes, but that's not we're discussing or what changed gaming into scripted cinematics.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      No this is wrong, Heavy rain is just a modern version of Point and Click Adventure games(Eee Dragons Lair.) "Games" like Ace Attorney also fit this bill.

      When people Say "Movie games" they mean railroaded interactive cutscenes that are still trying hard to be "games" Uncharted, GOW LOU etc

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I agree that Uncharted and nu GOW count. But those are cinematic action games. Movie games follow the similar trend of all of Cage's games, and a more recent example would be a sony exclusive last gen title called Until Dawn. And no as i said before these are fundamentally different experiences from point and clicks, they don't count.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nah, classic GoW was a cinematic action game.
          Uncharted and nu-GoW are just corridor simulators with more cutscenes than actual gameplay.

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    cinematic games have existed for decades you utter morons, they go all the way back to Another World and even beyond
    God damn does nobody have a brain here?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      hownew.ru

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >cinematic games have existed for decades you utter morons
      Yes, I'm aware of FMV games as well. But i stand by what i said when i mentioned Heavy Rain pioneering the style of games we've seen from 7th gen onward. This is true, it has every element you see in any of the games today. It's not just QTEs I'm talking about either. It's interaction as well. This is the first game that had fully movie like production in 3D games and you can't really argue against how this game impacted the industry. Sony pioneered the movie game as we know it today. There's different styles of the past, but we're talking about the present here.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Still fun to play and no amount of bad faith arguments can change that.

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ganker is so contrarian and deranged it could say Pacman was a israeli conspiracy to destroy the nuclear family and prevent them from having sex. Never ask a question like that here in good faith.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's true. PacMan and MsPacman are eating abortion pills with the ghost chasing them being the souls of the babies they murder. When you get the super pellet (aka hard drugs), you start flashing (getting high) and you eat the souls of the ghost (ie forget about the moral trauma of killing your kids legally). Ms Pacman is worse in that regard because the pro abortion themes is more prevalent as you play as a woman. But since Pacman and MsPacman have the same design, it's implied that MsPac"man" is actually Pacman but trans!!!

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    No

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >FF7
      Are you fricking moronic? god the quality of posting on Ganker nowadays is shocking, but I'm all ears to here you explain it, so go ahead buddy.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Right, but there is gameplay associated with it no? how much gameplay to movie ratio would you say?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            There's some gameplay associated with all movie games too, what's your point?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          There's like 30 minutes of actual "cutscenes" in FF7. The rest is just dialogue. Yeah an RPG has a lot of dialogue what a shocker

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >There's like 30 minutes of actual "cutscenes" in FF7
            Wrong. It's closer to an hour. But pressing the A button for 11+ hours while a story happens sounds like a movie game to me

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    everyone in this thread made me realize that no one in this board actually plays video games and understand game design trends/culture. frick you all.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no one in this board actually plays video games and understand game design trends/culture
      You are included in that statistic too.

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Movie games are characterised by the gameplay being secondary.
    That’s not the case in bioshock

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    What do we define as moviegame? Just a lot of cutscenes? To me a moviegame is like uncharted, where there's tons of scripted setpieces and you can rarely play for extended periods without getting interrupted by a scripted event or QTE etc. Like MGS has a lot of cutscenes but you could just skip them if you want, so it's not a moviegame to me. MGR is kind of a moviegame in that respect, but has some fun gameplay as well. But you do get interrupted a lot and it's frustrating having to do QTE after QTE.

    Half-life on the other hand has basically unskippable cutscenes where you have to follow an npc around and listen to them etc so it's much more moviegamey to me.

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    you got blasted in the other thread and made a new one, unchartedgay?

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

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