We all know Kyurem is getting its original form in the BW remake, but will Zygarde and beyond get new forms when their remakes arrive?
We all know Kyurem is getting its original form in the BW remake, but will Zygarde and beyond get new forms when their remakes arrive?
Anyone who spergs about the original dragon didn't actually understand the plot of BW and BW2, games made for literal children.
>n-no you don’t get it the game is SUPPOSED to be unfinished!
>unfinished!
The original dragon was never intended to be catchable only to be a myth.
>plot of BW is N realizing that truth and ideals aren't actual opposites and that people with differences can work together
>region's theme is about connecting different people from all over the world, both figuratively and literally with bridges connecting different parts of the region
>region is literally called UNova as in "Unification" or "United", and in Japanese Isshu literally comes from "one" as in despite the differences everyone can be seen as "one"
>"NOOOOOOOO YOU DON'T GET IT KYUREM BECOMING ONE AGAIN BY ACCEPTING BOTH TRUTH AND IDEALS IS AGAINST THE POINT OF THE GAME"
lmao what a massive cope, the gen was just a rushed unfinished mess, and it's incredibly obvious they meant to put the original dragon in because of the god stone
Not literally, N doesn't accept his ideals as inferior or the protagonist's as better, but he can now see the greater scheme of things. Opposites can exist as equals. Equally valid, the original Dragon shits on this
>Opposites can exist as equals.
so in other words, two opposing forces can see eye to eye and come together to form something greater?
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Zygarde got what it got in Sun and Moon, it won't get another form, just like Giratina didn't get another form in Sinnoh Anniversary. Maybe Xerneas and Yveltal get Mega evolution, or some new form. Of course, it depends on how faithful the remakes will be compared to the originals. I hope it's not a copy.
Counterpoint: Rayquaza got a mega to be on the same league as Groudon and Kyogre's new forms, but Giratina didn't need anything else to be on the same league as Dialga and Palkia's new forms. If XY remakes give Xerneas and Yveltal new forms, Zygarde will absolutely need an extra form.
Counterpoint: you are contradicting yourself, if Giratina didn't get a new form cus it didn't need it, why would Zygarde need a new form if it doesn't need it?
If anything, Xerneas and Yveltal would need 2 new forms each (10% and Complete) and I'm not even counting Cell and Core forms
>why would Zygarde need a new form if it doesn't need it?
Because he would need it, are you out of your mind? How the frick could Zygarde possibly compete with Xerneas and Yveltal if they got megas?
>How the frick could Zygarde possibly compete with Xerneas and Yveltal if they got megas?
Play the games.
Anon, you are fully aware perfect Zygarde is roughly on the same level as current Xerneas and Yvelta, right? Sure, he's way stronger "in lore", but "in lore", normal Rayquaza is also stronger than Primal Groudon and Primal Kyogre.
They still knew it would have been ridiculous to have normal Rayquaza next to Primal Groudon and Primal Kyogre, so they gave him a super form that makes it moronly OP too.
Origin Giratina is the third legendary equivalent to Origin Dialga and Origin Palkia.
Mega Rayquaza is the third legendary equivalent to Primal Groudon and Primal Kyogre.
Perfect Zygarde is the third legendary equivalent to NORMAL Xerneas and NORMAL Yveltal, not to their hypothetical future super forms.
So what you're saying is that Xerneas and Yveltal would need a 10% and 50% forms? What a waste, it's not like base stats even matter, but if they do then look at Rayquaza, it's above Groudon and Kyogre and there's no need for an item to activate the mega, they aren't equal either
>So what you're saying is that Xerneas and Yveltal would need a 10% and 50% forms?
Please tell me you are shitposting. No way in hell anyone could consume enough drugs to have his reading comprehension this halted.
That's all you have as a counterargument? Weak, Zygarde doesn't need yet another form, if the problem is base stats (which it isn't) boost the 50% base stats then, there ya go now they are equal I guess
>just randomly make it stronger... BUT WITHOUT A FORM OKAY?
Yeah and how the frick could Giratina compete with Dialga and Palkia if they got origin forms - oh wait
Complete form Zygarde has 708 BST while normal Zygarde has 600, megas get +100 BST so the form change is already on par with a mega
Imagine how moronly strong would be Xerneas and Yveltal, already OP as frick legendaries, if they got the +100 BST boost of megaevolution.
And imagine what would they give to Zygarde to make it even even stronger.
>Mega Xerneas/Yveltal with 780 BST like Mega Mewtwo and Mega Rayquaza
>Primal Zygarde with 808 BST above anything that isn't Eternamax Eternatus unplayable form
No, because they already "need" new forms to be equal to Zygarde in the first place.
They also don't need new forms at all, Zygarde just needs its own game.
> Zygarde just needs its own game
Sun and Moon was its own game.
>a game where it's a sidenote is its own game
moronic take, you and I both know I mean it should have a game where it's the box legendary, like Arceus got.
Rayquaza is even more of a side note in Emerald than Zygarde is in SM.
>Future Xerneas and Past Yveltal
I can see it happening
>She actually thinks BW remakes are happening
Would make more sense for the cover legendaries to get a new form, like it happened for Dialga and Palkia.
>inb4 Xerneas and Yveltal get new mega forms except not really, because instead of getting stronger, their powers get restrained by Zygarde's cells, who end up fusing with Xerneas/ Yveltal
>Gen 5 remakes will be BW3
>Gen 6 remakes will be Z Version
I thought you morons learned after last time
One of the few accurate 'jak images.
reminder that PLA was gamefreak's gen 4 remake and ILCA was contracted to make BDSP so morons like your pic didn't sperg out because it was different
instead discerning customers sperged out over BDSP being bar none the laziest entries in the entire series
Khu said we'll be getting a brand new non-remake game set in Unova thoughever
>thoughever
this isn't a word, is it a meme or something? why am i seeing people say it so often here?
>Khu
So we're not getting a new Unova game.
"though" or "however"
pick a lane and stick with it
thowever
houghever
But did he SAY that, or is just a common interpretation you guys are pushing, like when he "said" megas would return, only for him to have never said anything like that?
Kyurem will be kyurem, reshiram AND zekrom, though its also possible itll just be a paradox. It definitely will be something unexpected i believe
zygarde will be even more unexpected. I cant really guess what it'll be, but my only guess is an eternamax type of thing (which isnt gimmick related, he just reunites his pieces. though a megazygarde would be interesting)
Sleipner, fricking clever, since we already have Fenrir, Jörmungandr, Hel, with Nari and Vali as the two core forms of Zigarde.
>jörmungandr
i was under the impression 50% was meant to be níðhöggr
It could be, Pokémon can be interpreted in many ways, perhaps as a whole Zigarde represents that snake, but separately the children of Loki.
We could even exaggerate and explain that Mega Gardevoir and Shiny Mega Gardevoir are the elves that live in Alfheim and Svartalfaheim.
But enough of that, the only thing I would like to know is where is my gossiping squirrel among the legendaries of Kalos?
>Mega Gardevoir and Shiny Mega Gardevoir are the elves that live in Alfheim and Svartalfaheim.
I knew it
it's nidhoggr in the context of xerneas and yveltal, and jormungandr in the context of its other forms
I'm pretty sure it's meant to be both. More Jörmungandr because the other forms are the other children of Loki and Angrboda, but pokemon get inspired by multiples creatures all the time.
Hell, considering the Fenrir forme followed the release of SUN and MOON I would say it's Fenrir but also Sköll and Hati
zygarde's will probably just be its 100% form in its own game, it's the other two will get new forms, more than likely megas. after all this is exactly what happened with arceus in its own game, it was already complete while dialga and palkia got new forms.
the dialga/palkia origin forms are even weaker than the originals, so 50% versions of xerneas and yveltal wouldn't be unprecedented
>the dialga/palkia origin forms are even weaker than the originals
No?
Zygarde schizoposting is one of the better things about /vp/
Zygarde will see its Complete forme buffed to have Aura Break (that also boosts Ground type moves) and it’ll also be a permanent forme change, like Deoxys or the Genies’ forme changes.
Core Enforcer will also be buffed to hit Fairy types
Just change Aura Break for something else entirely, if Ogerpon can have 5 fricking abilities then Zygarde can have three
They won't be able to call it Pokemon Black and White anymore. It will have to be called Pokemon Broke and Woke.
It's funny you're already talking about Gen 5 remakes where the Gen 4 remakes were atrocious and boring.
t. Terminally online genwunner that can't believe the Gen 4 remakes were a flavor of the month.
The real gen 4 remake was Legends, which is honestly such a radical improvement I can't believe they came from DP
why are fan works so much cooler and better looking than the official stuff?
don't let the shills hear that or they'll pull out their five page essays about how eiscue is peak fictional creature design because turner said it makes sense